Furnace - GameNight! Se9 Ep23 - How to Play and Playthrough

[@danahuyler8650]

Great to see the four of you together again! Y'all explain games so well.

[@dlm89538]

Love seeing the 4 amigos together again!

[@david10101961]

1:22:15 "You might even call me Old King Coal (sic)" Nice one Dave!!

[@popgas3821]

Love the in depth discussion in the end, just like every other videos you guys put out, especially with the four of you ❤.

[@diggidydiggidy]

Great showing once again guys. Thanks! I thought the whole iron/steel thing was hilarious and was curious to know the split. On re-watch, Nikki referred to "steel" first at 9:33, then Aaron at 12:40, 20:35, 26:55, and followed by Lincoln at 28:44. After this point it seemed everyone was using steel as the resource name with Dave too for his first time at 35:29. At 44:49 there seemed to be an open discussion about it, with various 'corrections' occurring from then on followed by amounts of laughter. All in all, iron was said 107 times, steel 80 times, and it was corrected by the players 21 times. Just another reason why you guys are so great. Always trying your hardest to represent a game in its best light, even when it may not even matter. Love it! 👍

[@RandomPerson-nd2ey]

Thank you for doing that. I realize it took at least one rewatch while paying close attention but it's appreciated for those of us who are curious.

[@Mahdi_RB]

You four are the best crew and Dave definitely is the best game teacher

[@tknpickle]

The rules explanation was smooth. Understood everything immediately. Im sold.

[@adriang6259]

I think I have this game down now, guys. Thanks. Amazingly simple game but remarkably fun and interesting.

[@pigbobman]

Love this game and I bought it based on your play through. Epic, cheers. Dave, stay cool xx

[@boardgamegeek]

Awesome! Nikki and I really love this game. Thanks for the note and for watching! -Lincoln

[@longtimeninerfan1309]

Great play through! Thanks. There is a “ For your convenience” section highlighted in the rules which is helpful to prevent double play on a card: “At the beginning of the Production Phase, it’s better to line up the cards in the order you wish to resolve them. When a card is resolved, slide it up a little ( or rotate it 90 degrees) to show it can’t be resolved again during this phase.”

[@dkiprijanovski]

The OG Crew! Yes please! :D

[@starcloak]

Feels like forever ago you four played a game together, so happy for you guys. First impressions of game: seems very intriguing.

[@007norwegian]

We realy enjoy this game. Short play, good mechanics, fun, amazing graphics, and there is a expantion in production now!! Cant wait to get the expantion!

[@elainesaggers9469]

Enjoyed watching this video - especially when the whole steel/iron thing came about and I ended up giggling along with you guys! Never been much for engine builders, but I liked the idea that Lincoln mentioned about not having to worry about a points value for the cards while bidding on them. This is actually an engine builder I may consider buying so thank you for demonstating it!

[@msmilder25]

Feels like 2019 seeing you all together again!!

[@mindyfranke5279]

Great to have the 4 of you playing together again!

[@stacyp2186]

The first four I ever started learning games from. So happy to see you together again. This is a great game!! Good to see you.

[@iamignored7052]

Yay! Great to see this new game being shown so soon! Thanks alot!

[@cianomahony6916]

The four amigos back together, great to see and thanks for another great play through.

[@TyvanTV]

This game has been on my want list. Now it is on my need list. You guys do it again!!!

[@rikhavok]

Hey Guys! So I tried a way to play and watch you guys play at the same time. Sort of playing with you. Also helped me learn the game. I set up for a 4 player game. I picked a color. in this case, I chose red. So I substituted for Aaron. I deal out the cards for a 4 player game completely random. So not what you dealt. then when you play on the whatever space, I’d put your token there regardless of what the card is. When it was Aaron’s turn, I follow the rules for placement and make my choice instead of him. When you place, you get the space that you choose regardless of if I am there. But, I win the cards in a tie, which appears not to be good sometimes because sometimes you don’t want to win it as you want the consolation prize. Then at the end of the game, I compare my score to all 4 of yours. of course this wasn’t perfect, but far better than playing two players by myself to learn the game. Lincoln beat me by 1 point.

[@andrewkirkland4740]

This is a great fun game played it 3 times now and had fun every time, love watching you all, thanks for playing

[@demig0d47]

The gang back together!!! can't wait to get home a watch this episode!!

[@Oaklestat]

Your playthroughs are so good.

[@jasondunham5780]

Thanks! This is a fun game, plus get the playmat it's inexpensive and fits in the box. I hope this game does well enough to receive an expansion!

[@bibleboardgames]

Thank you for the play-through!

[@seanmorgan2257]

Thank you for this playthrough and teach, really enjoyed this and the game looks really intriguing, may have to invest.

[@maomao180]

Great game can't wait for my copy to arrive, sleek and elegant design.

[@nishant_kumar]

The four amigos. 😍 I had an hour and a half long smile. Now my cheek hurts.

[@patrickc9046]

Love seeing the four of you together again!

[@JackieFox1976]

fun seeing the universal expressions of befuddlement at the beginning of gameplay!

[@leodouskyron5671]

Catching up with the ones I missed, I happened on this one and the discussion at the end about is it better to just let a person win when they didn’t was really fascinating. Slightly off game topic, this is something I see as an issue in table top RPGs too. And it is not just about them cheating but also making mistakes and people reacting to that perceived injustice. Was great to see the many ways of thinking about it…. And In do love when the four of you are together like this - old times.

[@ericmattar-hurlbut2317]

I only recheck someone's score when it's too low compared to the winner.

[@Jonathan-fw6ty]

The dream team!

[@Darkdealer89]

Cool and interesting game, I love engine building games like this. It was also great to see the Original Crew together again. After watching the end-game discussion where Dave was explaining his problem with his Token's, and when Nikki were talking about how she had used the Upgrade-Capitalist and Dave's Capitalist in previous games, it made me wonder how the game would have played out if her and Dave had exchanged Capitalists with Lincoln and Aaron before the game. As there were a few times Nikki could have chosen to upgraded a card but didn't, or where she could upgrade cards if she used a a production cards before the main base-card. Using the extra coal in the second round to upgrade the Oil-Card for example could have given her the incentive of using her number 2 Token to trade Iron for Oil in the 3 round, and then place her 4-token on the card Aaron got instead, that card would also have been great for her, and now she could gain 8 points for the Oil and possible 12 for the other card if she upgraded it. Nikki would also have beaten Aaron and ended up with 74 points if she had used the bottom Coal-Card to gain 2 extra Coal before upgrading. Using 1 of those extra Coal's to upgrade her other Coal-Card granting her 5 Coal's instead of 2, which she could have used in the last round to score 2 extra points. And it seemed like having more options for Dave actually ended up hurting him in the long run. Instead of having to think more strategic about placing his tokens to get the best resources, it became more about finding out how to place all 5 tokens on decent spaces. it would have been interesting to see how Lincoln and Aaron would have dealt with having those Capitalist all game.

[@DzekoVelez]

love this channel.

[@cj1000]

You guys are great!

[@KevinGalbraith]

WOOOOOT! \(^O^)/ The OG! Fun stuff. Great to see you all together again.

[@GamingRulesVideos]

Doing a video on this myself tomorrow and used this one to learn the game. Thanks!

[@samsalmassi5645]

I enjoyed so much watching this. Just bought furnace and watching this video looks like a very fun and smart game. You guys are so cool god bless all of you. 👍👍👍

[@BoardgameLiker]

We'll start seeing this bidding system in other games now.

[@shawnrynearson6114]

"WE are the FOUR Amigos, we are the FOURRRRRRRRRRRRRAAA AMIGOS!"

[@robertshashy5964]

Great video. I thought this game was going to be a pass for me, but now I am intrigued. My curiosity though is that it seems similar to Fantastic Factories, which I own and really enjoy. Have you all played that game, so that you might share some thoughts about the similarities? Thanks again for the great video. I'm glad you all got to play a game together again!

[@chuckm1961]

Yes, the phase where you work your own private game engine is pretty much the same. No, the phase before that is different. So it depends how much variety you want in your games.

[@l-ess]

Game Night!

[@derwoodbowen5954]

I currently have 4 unplayed games and I made myself not buy any new games until they get played. This game is really tempting me to break that. It looks really cool.

[@harmweber9848]

Right there with you. I was laid up (herniated disc) during the first months of Covid and went on a Kickstarter rampage. Have several games that I haven't played and more coming. Still, this one looks cool. So many games, so little time.

[@kaladze93]

I'd like to know those lovely ressources-storage little bags can be found

[@thecomplainer2431]

Steel… NO! IRON! That should be the name of this episode. 😄

[@mttlong]

The band is back together!

[@luigiscazzari4724]

Gee, how long has been a game with the original crew? 454 years?!

[@APolitically]

The original crew!

[@ilqrd.6608]

this is the best gang

[@mjul84]

It's hilarious to me how people don't understand that iron and steel are pretty much interchangable in a practical sense. In popular culture "steel" is seen as something totally different from iron, when in fact in this context they are pretty much the same. Iron is an element, steel is a compound. BUT. In the real world you never get pure iron (in fact 99,9% pure iron is very expensive and only used for chemical experiments). All naturally occuring iron ore is some compound and usually contains some amount of carbon. Anything, basically, above 2% of carbon in a finished product is not considered steel anymore but cast iron. Anything below is steel (if made by man). Iron and steel are basically interchangable in normal parlance. I never understood why people are so hung up about it. I even had several people arguing about this with me on the internet, saying that iron is not steel, when in fact it's a totally arbitrary assumption and any metallurgist would say you the same (unless they were anal retentive and wanted to prove a point and discuss 1% of carbon content outside a professional area of discourse). Anyway, this seems like a cool game. Wish I had a gaming group of my own. But nobody in my circle is into board games the same way I am. EDIT: Basic rules: If it's processed in any way it's steel or pig iron (or cast iron). If it's not it's iron ore. The symbols are ingots so they could be called steel or iron (since they are probably 95%+ iron in this context anyway) and it would still be correct.

[@roanly1380]

Wow, the origins

[@DeltaTee]

Does anyone know which size of the GeekUp Bit Bowls are being used in this game (small or large)?

[@boardgamegeek]

We are using the small bowls. We tend to use the smaller ones on camera because we are trying to cram a lot into the frame. Thanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln

[@elqord.1118]

Looks cool but I wish this me Nanismus would be part of a bigger and more complex game overall

[@Sajatzsiraf]

is that the Big Four or what?!

[@SimonToth83]

Eh, should be steel considering it's grey. Iron will rust aggressively, so it should be red.

[@lemoynediberville]

IRON !

[@jedigreg4636]

SUPERMAN IS THE MAN OF IRON AND TONY STARK IS STEELMAN DUH

[@jameswertz6603]

Being from Pittsburgh I think it should be steel not iron anyway!

[@softshoes]

Well, how pleasant was this?

[@lolledopke]

I have to ask, are those massive soda cups disposable?

[@ultralalaful]

How do you rank this versus res arcana ?

[@boardgamegeek]

I think both are great games. This one is more stripped down which in my mind lets you focus more closely on your engine. It’s easy to see what will help you advance things. Additionally I love the bidding/compensation system. Your game evolves and this system can change with you. Thanks for the question and for watching.-Lincoln

[@ultralalaful]

@@boardgamegeek thx!

[@MemoryException]

It’s been so long you messed up the seating arrangements! But nice video and interesting game… 😋

[@bornofashes]

Steel or iron? Gray.

[@chuckm1961]

😀😀😀😀

[@scott2462]

I think on her first turn, Nikki should have upgraded her new card first (with iron + coal) before taking her starting card actions

[@yugiwinninglex]

I think Aaron and Nikki shld probably swapped their capitalist. Aaron seems like the kind of player who can use it to more advantage and Aaron capitalist will be easier for Nikki as well

[@sds802]

if they wanted the iron to look more realistic they should have made them red color vs grey aka a steel color

[@Thesussysuscat]

Nikki Ps special ability seems underpowered

[@rikhavok]

Also, I loved seeing you guys together again. Aaron, are you back in Cali?

[@raszXavos]

NIkki has not used her special power at all

[@boardgamegeek]

She did several times. The power allows her to upgrade cards for one iron in place of the wrench token. Thanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln

[@damaddestgamer]

I'm surprised that each time after 3 people used their 4's, the fourth player also used his 4, whereas he could win the card with a 3 at that point...

[@davidarnott4850]

But that's the cool thing about this bidding system: yes, at that point you could get a guaranteed win with a 3, but that means you're giving up the chance to get 3X compensation on one of your opponent's 4's... which is maybe better. PLUS, if enough people do that, you could win a card with a 2!

[@damaddestgamer]

@@davidarnott4850 Good point! You can also screw up their plans by placing a high number onto where they cannot make use of the compensation :D

[@jefff.2052]

Interesting game, bummer of a theme...maybe could use a Golem Edition... ;)

[@primusinterpares5767]

I think the art is fantastic

[@jefff.2052]

@@primusinterpares5767 yeah, art is fine, would be better with a nice theme for the art.

[@jameshardison5618]

Am I missing something? The rules state that you can’t place a bidding number token on a card that already has that number of a different color on it. You guys ignored that rule several times throughout the game!

[@boardgamegeek]

James, Aaron's Capitalist card allows him to break both placement rules. We each explain our Capitalist card powers before game play starts at 9:28. Thanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln

[@jameshardison5618]

@@boardgamegeek Ahh! Thanks. I am inordinately fond of you guys and your show. You’ve helped me choose games I never would have looked twice at for my family.

[@nellgwenn]

Sometimes I don't understand these types of games. It seems like the game ends where it should begin. You build up an engine to get all those points or money, then the game ends. You never really get to do anything interesting with the engine you create. Where this game ends you should be able to exchange some of those buildings into museums, or concert venues, or parks, or wildlife preserves, scholarship funds, etc. The Nikki and Lincoln scholarship fund to promote Right To Repair, and independent electronic systems repair. And Meeple design.

[@boardgamegeek]

This one is a truly stripped down engine builder and benefits from that. The really neat twist is the change in nature of bids towards the end of the game as you hope to get the compensation instead of winning the card. I do recommend giving it a try if you get the chance. -Lincoln

[@JonTripp115]

New variant: lose one point each time you say "steel" instead of "iron"!

[@SteelBreeze021]

+1 to this variant!

[@dpearson588]

The amount of ads in this episode was ridiculous

[@KaNawogirusa]

In my version of the game Nikki's capitalist is white not black .. Weird

[@harmweber9848]

I've got to stop watching your videos because, once again, you FORCED me to spend money on a game.

[@boardgamegeek]

Sorry. We are pretty cruel.-Lincoln

[@mattiasbjorklund5398]

I just wish Dave would stop interrupting Nicki and trying to point out her plays for her. MAybe it´s jsut trying to be helpful and friendly but she has played games on this show for years. If I were her I´d be so annoyed. I know you like to point out things for eachother in general but when it comes to D vs N it is taking to extremes. Also it is the whole gender thing which to me makes it look even worse. Maybe I´m just reading too much into it but as an observer that is what I often feel and I´ve looked at basically every Game Night that episode. Still love the show.

[@odditie]

The amount and timing of the ads are very annoying.