FURY vs USYK | Who Will Be UNDISPUTED? 🥊

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk debate with True Geordie and the lads from the Undefeated podcast, Lawrence Osueke and Joey Knight.
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[@MrIhateyoutub]

Im picking Usyk for the same reason I picked him over Joshua in 2021. Usyk is just overall such a generational great boxer. His fundamentals are just soo much better than Fury. On top of great fundamentals Usyk has his head on straiggt and is just so strong mentally in every area. What matters is how fighters are outside of the ring and Usyk is just so healthy in his approach. Usyk will win a decision and he will be taking rounds from Tyson just as he did with Usyk. Usyk fought high level fighters ever since the amatures. Usyk has soo much more experience than Tyson that Ill comfortably say he will win 7 out of 10 times against Tyson Fury.

[@deepbalboa]

Usyk is going to collect all of the Infinity Stones! Usyk will complete the full boxing game at 100% via World Gold, Olympic Gold, Muhammad Ali trophy, Undisputed Cruiserweight, Undisputed Heavyweight, Lineal, Ring Magazine, Undefeated, Pound for Pound #1, TBE, The Greatest. There’s just beauty in symmetry!

[@sgmotto7280]

Ali ain’t in the top 10 anymore

[@beninnes8669]

Not a chance

[@poundforpoundboxing8943]

I hope he then rematches Fury, and doubles it to prove its no luck!

[@madaickiwon292]

Simp

[@kennethandersen3710]

So much agree, USYK is the better of those two absolutely 🥊👊

[@BoxingPicks]

Don’t want to hear any excuses about Fury being past his best when Usyk slaps him around. Usyk is older than him

[@JoeChard]

In fairness you’re right there should be no excuses if he loses however usyk being older means nothing because everyone is different some people are finished earlier.

[@lightinferno4490]

Facts

[@BoxingPicks]

@@JoeChard thats no-ones problem but Fury’s mate. One is an athlete, the other one pretends to be

[@johnhenry4844]

Fury’s diet and mentality will do him in, shame such lost potential, he could have been the greatest of an era after klitschko

[@BoxingPicks]

@@johnhenry4844 nothing about his resume screams best of his era. Usyk and AJ have better resume’s than him

[@fergusstevenston8409]

6’8” guys do not go to the body against shorter guys

[@Marabarra94]

he landed a devastating bodyshot against Whyte

[@shonwamcfeckerty7363]

Usual freaks in comments making something up thinking they’re edgy 👎

[@spaghettileggedducker]

​@@Marabarra94a body shot didn't get Whyte out of there though

[@SpyroTek]

@@spaghettileggedducker But did he go for a body shot?

[@aarongeorge1989]

@@SpyroTek but Whyte is 6’4 he said he was talking about throwing them against the shorter guys

[@jeremyordaz]

This is going to look a lot like Crawford vs Spence. Only difference is maybe Fury will see the final bell. Usyk got this!

[@darrenjones1413]

Dempsey Vs Willard

[@sr2340]

Usyk paces himself 6-8 every time on purpose. Part of his game plan. It isn’t him aging, it is normal for him.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

If he does that against a Fury at 100 percent he won't last 12

[@sr2340]

@@weallfollowmanutd lol ok, you thinking Fury still has a gas tank is crazy. If Fury doesn’t get Usyk by the first 6 rounds it’s over for him.

[@whereis99]

@@sr2340fury aint the same fury he was. Everyone keeps saying “If fury..” bro fury is past his prime🤣

[@mbsnyderc]

@@weallfollowmanutd I think your highly over estimating Fury.

[@sr2340]

@@whereis99 hey man I know and like I said if Fury doesn’t get Usyk out of there in under 6 rounds it’s over for him. Dude is gonna have a heart attack by the 11th

[@chalky_white]

If Fury look like he did against Francis, it’s not gonna be a good night for him

[@randomname5646]

We need the Fury from the 2nd wilder fight

[@tombuckton2335]

Just like if Usyk fights how he fought Dubois

[@BillieBentley-qe5ov]

That's what I said to and I also think if that Fury fights the AJ vs Wallin that AJ would win

[@ProGamer___]

you can say the same about usyk vs dubois

[@Marabarra94]

if Usyk looks like he did against Chisora then he will get smashed

[@giulio861]

Usyk is a master boxer 90 percent knowledge and discipline 10 percent raw power he is the real deal a craftsman and so humble i predict him to win a one off boxer that you won't see again for a while

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Fury is more than a one off than usyk

[@lordfarquard9902]

If Fury does win would you acknowledge him as a better boxer than Usyk?

[@freedom4life123]

@@NOBODY-cn6fj COPE

[@freedom4life123]

@@lordfarquard9902 FURY CAN NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS BE A BETTER BOXER THAN USYK... STOP IT!!!

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@freedom4life123 If he outpoints him he is a better boxer. That’s the way sport works.

[@serioustraining2959]

I think a bunch of those guys are living in a different dimension, and defending fury because he is Brit. Usyk shown many times that he can outbox bigger blokes. And I think that fury will struggle to land shots on a smaller, slik and faster opponent. Usyk is always exceptionally conditioned, he is fast, can take punch, and can adapt. He is in camp since November and clearly is super dedicated. Whereas Fury shown to be able get back up once knocked down, and looks more agile when compared to most other hw. But his conditioning is not that great, he will gas out, and will be stopped like Debois in round 10-11.

[@lordfarquard9902]

Wilder caught Fury flush and couldn’t keep him down. Usyk bangs like a 6 year old compared to Wilder.

[@plushstyles8599]

@@lordfarquard9902one bee sting you can ride it but when 10s of bees are stinging at the same time, you get put down. Usyk throws punches in bunches. If u get up, more punches are coming.

[@schumi9xwdc]

Brits r that way, it’s their nature

[@Highonlife24]

@@lordfarquard9902 Your arguing based on the assumption that Usyk needs to knockout Fury to win. Usyk is a technical boxer not a power puncher. Like other technical fighters such as Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Muhammad Ali, Usyk can win on points alone.

[@ABAB-dr9hv]

When has Fury struggled with conditioning 😂 When has he gassed out

[@michaelperlov3249]

Bellew didn’t outbox Usyk for 6 rounds because Bellew is a better technician, Usyks team instructed Usyk to be in the first gear and once they noticed fatigue from Bellew, Usyk switched into his second gear and that was all she wrote.

[@egikskallagrimsson5703]

That's exactly what Usyk does mentally break his opponents down

[@reece7713]

Not really. Bellew was the better boxer he just wasn't training as hard to be as fit as usyk has a completely different level of fitness. Chisora beat Usyk end of.

[@SWJ_]

Don’t be surprised if they gift Fury a decision if it goes 12 rounds and it’s even remotely close. Turki and the 2 promoters (Eddie and Frank) want that Fury-AJ fight so badly. If Fury can maul 7 rounds to make them messy, he’ll get those 7 rounds on 2 of the judges’ scorecards.

[@leolovetoparty]

They can have Fury v AJ after they both lose 😆

[@G22865]

This is what I see too. Usyk proving to be superior over 12 but the judges having their own agenda

[@Azad_2024_]

Precisely what will go down. Bookmark this.

[@madaickiwon292]

Nice excuses already

[@ChargedWords]

I had fury to be knocked down and win against Francis. His legs can't stay underneath him and Francis was the most powerful puncher in the UFC. If it went to judges Saudi wouldn't let fury lose. It was glaringly obvious to me, gutted I didn't put more on.

[@bobibest89]

Usyk is going to take Fury back to school.

[@davehoward22]

Furys gonna beat usyk like hes down a country lane .

[@jlb7707]

​@@davehoward22I envision Fury with a bottle of moonshine, dressed in a big chicken suit waddling and clucking away 😂

[@paulmeaden5731]

Usyk has amazing powers of recovery. He can be hurt, but 5 seconds later he's back

[@galleon1968]

or 4 mins

[@michaelafubwa8125]

Fury will beat Usyk. Easy!

[@lordfarquard9902]

He didn’t get back up to that gut shot from Dubois though did he?

[@paulmeaden5731]

@@lordfarquard9902 he would have if needed.

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@paulmeaden5731 coulda woulda shoulda. He looked like he was in fucking agony to me, not like he could just hop to his feet whistling 😗

[@vajidali2658]

Hope Usyk takes the W. Fury pissed away all his good will with me

[@Drelaw658]

Hope fury takes it just to see everyone in shambles

[@brianhanes5413]

There are loads of people who would spark Fury. Unless he fights and beats Joshua, Sanchez, Zhang, Hrgovic, he wont redeem himself. ​@Drelaw658

[@brianhanes5413]

​@@Drelaw658Fury still has 2 losses to McDermott and Ngannou

[@rosiemason-rk4cm]

@@brianhanes5413 Make that 3 - he should have been stopped on cuts v Wallin

[@Drelaw658]

@@brianhanes5413 let’s say he does beat usyk. Fury doesn’t need to prove himself against any of those guys. They need to prove themselves against fury. What have they done in their careers compared to fury if he wins this? Fury would have beaten three different champions on away soil and become a multiple time world champion. Hrgovic, zhang, and especially Sanchez haven’t done anything close to that. The only fight he owes to the public after usyk is Joshua

[@Clymax01]

Everyone laughed at Usyk years ago when he said he would go up to heavyweight and beat Fury & Joshua Who’s laughing now ?

[@chukwudiobioma5366]

I'm leaning towards Usyk with a unanimous decision! That fight goes to 12 rounds.

[@KMD-qj1qc]

Can’t see any boxer right now beating a modern day crusier weight legend like Usyk, he’s too good for the current division modern division

[@hilly451]

It's ridiculous the disrespect the man gets he's levels above everyone in the Heavyweight division! World boxing super series winner, undisputed cruiser weight champion, and in 3 years at Heavyweight he has as good a record as Fury has 😂

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@hilly451Is this Fury or Usyk? Usyk gets called the greatest boxer of all time by most of KZbin. Fury gets called a bum who beats nobody ever.

[@four-twenty4205]

​@@lordfarquard9902- If Fury beats Usyk everyone will say Usyk was too small 😂

[@thetruesquad5059]

U keep copying and pasting this comment blud

[@thetruesquad5059]

​@@four-twenty4205nah more like the ref let fury get away wth "boxing" super dirty

[@imjustincredible]

This was actually a well balanced good discussion - good points made all around for the most part 👍

[@CS-pl8fc]

You guys are leaving out the Nandrolone in Fury's "really good run after Steve Cunningham". The guy got popped for full blown steroids before the Klitschko fight and they did nothing. The fact that none of you call this out is embarrassing.

[@jlb7707]

Maybe one day it'll be the proof to removed him from the professional records of boxing.

[@roncooley5676]

Best line up talking all things boxing great debate & can't wait for the watch along. True geordie keep this set of lads for all the big fights

[@omarsuarez2444]

If the ref allows bully tactics by fury ie. keep grabbing, leaning and elbowing usyk, fury will win. If the ref only allows boxing, usyk will win.

[@emmaunelalli7096]

You're correct

[@plushstyles8599]

News going around now is Jai Opetaia has been sent home for allegedly dropping Fury twice in sparring. No way that Fury beats Usyk.

[@gloryunitedfantv8682]

Love this kind of round table discussions

[@HT_653]

Great job lads the video was class

[@arnoldmagqaza7860]

That dude with the red shirt cant stop blowing Fury.

[@Colbi.Morris]

Standard blinded fury fan

[@stevelovell5081]

Hilarious as neither of you know who this red t shirt guy is. Divs

[@G1TheJooga]

@@stevelovell5081he can scrap 😤

[@ralphthomson2680]

It’s embarrassing 🙈

[@schumi9xwdc]

Pipe Smoker?

[@James__________________]

Said ever since Usyk beat AJ first time I see Usyk taking it

[@shonwamcfeckerty7363]

Fury’s sparking both 👍

[@Rabbitzz]

​@@shonwamcfeckerty7363hopefully

[@freedom4life123]

@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 THEN U WOKE UP

[@dodgeviper56]

Fury couldn't spark a match 😂

[@morgancarolan8680]

@@shonwamcfeckerty7363you’re delusional 🤣🤣🤣🤡

[@amandaanne1357]

i love listening to each of you so thank you. i wish the best for you and yours.

[@brianhanes5413]

I had Usyk vs AJ 1 as 8-4. Was a 50/50 until the 9th round but what Usyk did to take over is he was strategically peppering Joshua's eye which allowed him to dominate the last 3 as his vision was limited.

[@t.d6379]

The rematch you mean? AJ won 2 rounds in their first bout. 3 tops. Rematch was level going into 10.

[@jeremyazpilicueta-robinson5043]

Both fights were at worst 7-5 Usyk. To give AJ only 2rds is to say you dont know how to score fights or u just a hater ​@@t.d6379

[@polarit7628]

100%..... AJ did great in the 2nd but when he went for it..... Usyk just about survived. @@t.d6379

[@donttouchyerbumnsniffit]

I had both fights 9-3. The first fight I had it 5-3 after 8 and then Usyk just absolutely took over from 9 onwards. The second fight, whilst AJ was more positive coming forward and caught and hurt Usyk in the 9th, I still think Usyk outlanded him in almost every other round except maybe the first couple. I had AJ winning the first 2 rounds, Usyk winning the next 5 or 6 and then AJ had a huge 9th round. But, after that 9th round Usyk took it to another level and dominated big time!Could argue for 8-4 in the second fight but not more 🥊

[@brianhanes5413]

@t.d6379 most people gave Joshua 3 rounds in the first fight. Imo both were landing a similar amount of shots in the first fight until round 10+. Many of Usyk's shots were being blocked and AJ landed a decent amount of jabs. I don't give points for Usyk being "busier" as it doesn't really mean anything but that he was dancing around. I only count dancing if that dancing means you're landing more shots which he really wasn't for most of that fight.

[@alvshill]

I absolutely love these round tables. Usyk will win by 10th round TKO in the style of death by 1000 cuts.

[@shonwamcfeckerty7363]

Sound a big erected to me pal

[@Generalindifference]

Can't see him stopping fury but a good shout for ud

[@madaickiwon292]

Usyk hasn't got a chance

[@alvshill]

@@madaickiwon292 friend, every opponent has a ‘chance’. Ask boxing rookie Ngannou.. he’ll tell you how it works.

[@marks9948]

i think Usyk will win this on points but the judges will fudge the cards for Fury in order to get an AJ Fury megafight. Although I'd love to see Fury get stopped tbh.

[@alexduran2476]

Has Usyk ever been tied up/smothered by anyone? Seems like he's always been too slippery to clinch

[@doncuadrado8489]

Well done to everyone involved with this production...... excellent analysis of the fight and everything that is possibly relevant was discussed. Thoroughly enjoyed it. C'mon Usyk. Looking forward to seeing the definitive performance of your career and most probably a UD after 12. One final point......Fury won't win the pre fight mind games. He psyched out Wilder and messed with his head. Usyk is mentally strong and believes he will win. Half the battle.

[@shonwamcfeckerty7363]

Stop glazing pal n talk bout fists yeah 👍

[@WishMount]

@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 have a day off lad

[@freedom4life123]

@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 COPE

[@luke-ti3fu]

Imo Fury comes in at a career lightest. Attempts to box Usyk and it remains close for the first 6. Then Usyk s engine kicks in.

[@larryjablinski3570]

You'll be surprised how ineffective usyks engine is against a man that weighs 4 stone more than him

[@ryanwatterson4038]

​@@larryjablinski3570like the other 200lb guys with less skill and power than usyk that put fury on his ass?

[@larryjablinski3570]

@@ryanwatterson4038 like Cunningham? Yes exactly. That's genuinely a good example I would have used to prove my point lol

[@GreyLionWorld]

If the version of Usyk that faced Joshua in the 2nd fight turns up vs Tyson Fury Usyk will win a close decision and potentially stop Tyson fury In the championship rounds mark my word! . I was shocked when I saw the level Usyk came with in the Joshua 2nd fight and I've watch many of Usyk fights. How quickly Usyk can adjust, how hard he hits for size and the skill level being able to totally shut down anything that comes at him leaving his opponents mentally drained and confused at what to do to win. Joshua couldn't even use his size usyk countered and used movement faints. I haven't seen anyone capable of doing this in the heavyweight division. Fury showed he doesn't know how to adjust/ adapt a different strategy quickly when the initial is going wrong vs Ngannou when he took fury jab away with the counters. That for me shows Tyson boxing iq is no where near the level of Usyk and as the fight reaches the later rounds Usyk will break Fury down.

[@leolovetoparty]

the turnaround between round 9 and 10 in Usyk v AJ 2 was incredible - Usyk just went up a gear... I can't see Fury keeping up with that sort of pace

[@OriginalNuttah93]

As much as I think you're making some good points I have to disagree with Fury's IQ. He has incredibly high boxing IQ which isn't too far off Usyk, but I think his body isn't able to carry out certain things like it used to and he had a bad night by his standards. Fury is also A switch hitter but has neglected some of his skills. A big factor with Ngannou and why hindsight is special is he has an incredible reach and he's a monster who trusts his chin so he was all wrong for fury, despite losing. A seasoned Ngannou would have obliterated him that night. Still, Fury can definitely beat Usyk and the only way is if he prepares like never before. Usyk can also win and is a tremendous boxer. I'm leaning towards the bigger man on the night if both are at their best.

[@polarit7628]

100% on this...... AJ had him hurt.... but he dug into a level that only the greats of all time can get too.@@leolovetoparty

[@leolovetoparty]

@@OriginalNuttah93 lots of people are going by the “a good big ‘un will beat a good little one” but by that token Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson would have never become champions. You made a good point about Fury’s body not being able to carry out certain strategies. Well, he’s gonna need to be more skilful and nimble than at ANY time in the past. Fury beat Wilder by bulking up and wearing him out. Wilder is probably the worst boxer (in terms of skill and fundamentals) than anyone in the top 10 in the division… Personally I think Fury’s lack of proper training and fights since Wilder II has already taken its toll. It’s one thing to come back from inactivity at 27, he’s now 35 and literally a fat b45tard. My money is on Usyk and I think his conditioning will be the deciding factor from the 7-8th round onwards. I think the first 7-8 rounds will be quite even and Usyk will rinse Fury from the 9th onwards. Might even get a TKO.

[@leolovetoparty]

@@polarit7628 I genuinely can’t see Fury hurting Usyk like AJ did. I think AJ is a harder, proper power-puncher which Fury never has been and never will be. I can’t see Fury connecting anything like enough times to hurt Usyk and I can see Usyk making adjustments to his game plan if he does. I also can’t see Fury using his bulk the same way he did against Wilder. Usyk is no mug to let him do that. He’ll make Fury chase him and go in and out of range while landing jabs and left straights, all the time dancing around a less mobile Fury. I think Usyk will wear Fury out physically and possibly mentally by the time we get to the championship rounds.

[@JIm-tc4dl]

First time watching and brilliant chat between these guys 😊

[@danielmori501]

Great review!

[@MrIhateyoutub]

Nobody is mentioning that Usyk was in a ring that was slippery and wet. It was open on the top and in the night it was raining. He sat down on his punches, because he had to.

[@kaykath4575]

Good job lads

[@liso6998]

Love this gents, keep it up 👌🏽

[@rosiemason-rk4cm]

For the very first time Usyk is going to show us his secret - his POWER. Usyk wins by stoppage & then retires from boxing.

[@lordfarquard9902]

Tell that to Bellew.

[@rosiemason-rk4cm]

@@lordfarquard9902 Bellew? I know Usyk KOd Bellew, but...... Fury took Wilder's power; he will NOT be able to take Usyk's power which is how Usyk will show us his power with Fury.

[@lordfarquard9902]

@@rosiemason-rk4cm You said for the very first time like he’d not nearly killed men with his POWER before 😅😂

[@rosiemason-rk4cm]

@@lordfarquard9902 Fury is noted for his ability to recover from a hard knockdown. Which other boxers like that or with noted granite chins has Usyk stopped? Give me some names.....

[@madaickiwon292]

What power?

[@brmawe]

5:16 "He took on the most feared boxer we've seen since Mike Tyson arguably" - What? Nonsense! Fury fought a guy who albeit had very little skill but had big power.

[@BB49.]

Totally agree apart from wilder having power, the only power wilder has was when fighting tomato cans

[@orangerelram1982]

@@BB49. This is the most stupid argument, so called tomato cans still have chins! in fact many journeymen have the best chins. Hence why sometimes upcoming boxers have to settle for decisions!

[@Marabarra94]

he did. he fought Wlad who was unbeaten for 10 years

[@brmawe]

@@Marabarra94 1. He was talking about Wilder 2. Wlad was not feared like Mike or any 80's, 90's heavyweight, not even close.

[@jlb7707]

​@THE.GYPSY.PRINCE Fury was afraid to rematch W KLITSCHKO. That's how Fury began his reign, ducking, hiding, and embarrassing the sport. WWE needs to hire this 🤡.

[@JackEFC1878]

The argument for Fury is size, but that’s been the argument for everyone Usyk has fought at heavyweight. Yes Fury is better technically than Joshua etc but he’s still a mile off Usyk. He leaves his body VERY open at times, but he hasn’t fought anyone good enough to expose it

[@simonhh]

None of Usyk's opponents have ever tried to use their size though. You can only say Chisora tried but he was the same height. Both Joshua and Dubois stood off hoping to use their reach.

[@Heisenhag]

Fury will do his klitchko tactics jab hold and lean using his weight. Don't be surprised if it's just as boring as that fight

[@matthewcamina8508]

⁠@@HeisenhagI’d be surprised if this is his approach. Usyk was asked to leave a Klitschko camp for boxing rings around him when preparing for Fury.

[@Heisenhag]

@@matthewcamina8508 well he ain't gunna outbox him, so how you reckon he's gunna go about things?

[@matthewcamina8508]

@@Heisenhag No idea mate. I do agree that he’s got to use his size, but I see Usyk being too elusive. It’s all part of the intrigue. Wouldn’t mind seeing Usyk pull this off.

[@symunir9022]

Good chat. Thanks.

[@kiwitelevision]

Lovd Joey's insight..... Never heard of him before. OK i must be a noob. Had to subscribe to his channel. Nice work😀

[@henkstols9326]

I suspect IQ will take the win, who has the higher mental ability. Usyk should take it if he just keeps moving and Fury gassed after 5.

[@paulstephenson5815]

Fury’s never fought anyone that throws 60 to 70 punches per round while he fidgets and feints but only throws 30 punches max . Fury will just get out worked but I still think he’ll pull out in fight week

[@lordfarquard9902]

You think he fears Usyk? I doubt it the guys been smashed by the 2 hardest hitters in combat sports history.

[@jlb7707]

I think Fury will find a way out before fight night too. 💯

[@peteyoxonmusic]

Great podcast lads

[@maxcreepteks3364]

*Thank you for the video! There is another aspect - behind Usyk's shoulders is a country at war. He is in constant contact with our defenders and I am sure they are asking him to win - so mentally he is like a rock. He just can't let them down.*

[@chazmax-np4xe]

Great debate, lads. Yes, Fury's leg are definitely shot, just like Lewis at 37. When your defense is your ability to move, expect Usyk to land at will after he has forced Fury to move around for 8 exhausting rounds. Easy fight if Usyk stick to the plan, and he has impeccable discipline as a fighter, like Bivol.

[@Connorbailey0309]

I personally back an usyk late stoppage. I know it’s out there however I believe the volume that usyk will throw will stop a weathered fury

[@gabrielsteffensen3700]

Absolute fools saying bellew was outboxing usyk and could’ve won if he was younger. Usyk outlanded bellew with at least 50 punches until the stoppage. Brits see what they want to see. Malignagi was the only man in that arena unbiased. Bellew at any age would’ve never beaten usyk and the man probably agreeing with me is bellew himself

[@Ricky2901]

Like the honesty of the show

[@Chiliongiggs]

Fury has serious challenges fighting a southpaw fighter. That's why Otto Wallin gave him a hard time. Francis in his fight with him quickly noticed it that's why he was switching southpaw often. Usyk will be a nightmare to him because of this.

[@Garcia061]

Remember what Cunningham did to Fury? It was a long time ago but Usyk is Cunningham x 100. Unless Fury has taken this super seriously Usyk is winning. I don’t see Usyk getting a TKO even with his punch rate. Fury’s chin is good. But if it goes to the cards and Fury can’t use his weight (hard against the white rabbit), then Usyk on the cards for me. No doubt. Fury’s weight has worked on other people but Usyk has way too much ring IQ and engine in him to let that happen. Or if it does it will take half a round for Usyk to adapt.

[@madaickiwon292]

Shaun Porter beat Usyk the same year Fury beat Cunningham

[@patricknez7258]

Awesome vid great discussion. The matchups are so interesting to me, I'm really curious how Francis v Usyk would go too

[@leolovetoparty]

we might just get to see that after they both win ;-)

[@dogsbollocksgenius9480]

Usyk beats him easier than he beat Joshua, been saying it for years, it’s not even a close fight

[@janisj8]

As I said before in my humble opinion is that Oleksandr Usyk just know how to win. It is his personality trait, not just a boxing skill. He finds the way to win, he finds how to adapt, how to stay through the storm like in fight with Chisora and 9.round second fight with AJ, he knows how to survive and deliver W. I follow Usyk's career from 2018, I live near Ukraine and I know ukrainian mentality. My prediction is this: I see two scenarios. Either Fury will rough Usyk up and bang him heavy early, which most likely can stop Usyk. Another scenario, which I lean towards more is this, Usyk will show his best fight as a BOXER, he will be so quick, so elusive, so accurate, even more than in his first fight with AJ. Look up guys Usyk vs Gassiev for undisputed cruiserweight title, Usyk was flying and Gassiev was punching air. Good luck and let us enjoy this fight fans.

[@michaelfayombo6370]

It doesn't matter what Usyk do all that day, Tyson Fury is gonna stop Usyk.

[@lordfarquard9902]

I’d say Tyson Fury knows how to win in a much more extreme way than Usyk. He should have never got up in round 12 vs Wilder.

[@user-he2ou2ex2f]

None of these 2 outcomes will happen. Both fighters are on the wane. Either fighter for a very narrow points win.

[@Nickk9704]

@@lordfarquard9902Facts brother

[@patriceaqa288]

​@@Nickk9704indeed facts. However there is simply no way based on science and reality, that the wilder trilogy must've taken something out of him. 8 knockdowns shared. Knockout shots absorbed. Neither are the same now

[@danielsmart8013]

Joey Knight is class 👏 that comment regarding Lomachenko was that guy who always found a way to win, and then when he lost it’s like ‘wow, they can lose’ is just so spot on, been thinking it for years

[@ryantgiles08]

When did loma take his first loss mate ?

[@danielsmart8013]

@@ryantgiles08 I’m aware he lost early in his pro career but I was talking about when he looked unstoppable

[@BernhardBernard]

The ring was wet when Usyk fought Dubious. Thats why he adjusted and stayed in the pocket there fellas

[@stanjuofficial]

Forget the Ngannou fight!!!!!!!! Whether 10 years ago or Feb 17th - Usyk is beating Fury all day, everyday, twice on Sunday. Usyk is the original real OG

[@lordfarquard9902]

Nobody will be forgetting the Ngannou fight if Usyk wins. Same as nobody will be forgetting the Chisora fight if Fury bullies him and wins.

[@jonathanburn4388]

Uysk has to stop fury or at least drop him multiple times otherwise he'll get done on the cards

[@leolovetoparty]

Usyk's cardio and conditioning will be the difference maker. I can't see Fury returning to his boxing best and I think his lifestyle has already caught up with him. Best case scenario for Fury will be Usyk winning on points by 2-3 rounds. That's if he shows up.

[@JIm-tc4dl]

I think Uysk is the best I have seen in my life , just amazing individual performances and amazing team.

[@paulkirby2761]

Usyk seems to be fighting for legacy and money. Fury seems to be fighting just for money. I think that should be the biggest factor in who wins and who wants the win more. Would he even be fighting Usyk if the Saudis didn't offer him everything he wanted? Probably not. Usyks cardio and movement is what wins it for me. I don't think Fury hits harder or is quicker than AJ and AJ couldn't catch and corner Usyk in 24 rounds with Usyk getting stronger as the fight wore on which isn't a surprise since big guys being made move about and worked hard having to carry that big frame about will fade quicker. I think Usyk wins this unless Fury pulls a rabbit out of a hat.

[@TheJoker-um9tp]

Furys ego will not want to end his career being beaten by a soft punching cruiserweight. I can see it getting dirty . Fury always talks about being this generations best . If he beats uysk, who best Joshua twice. Fury will cemented thst claim. Fury will not think ok im earning 70ml so i im ok with losing. Just as with Cunningham elbows , headlocks . Uysk will have to go through hell to win.

[@G22865]

Good point. Against common opponent like johnson, wallin and klitschko, AJ gets the job done by ko whilst fury goes the distance. Not so sure the gap between the two is so wide so if usyk handled Joshua's speed and power then he should cope with furys. Wilder was furys best win but we've seen how Parker breezed through with.der without going through hell like fury did and joshua beat Parker. The fact that usyk has twice eat joshua puts him in a good position going into this fight because I don't think furys body is in its prime. Dubois and joshua bought more explosivness and were handled by usyk

[@antoniotorcoli702]

There is no debate. The better man is by far the better boxer.

[@JC_1997]

Excellent analysis

[@alinvid6098]

Good one but I don't find it fair that they all rooted for Fury... was that maybe because they're english ?

[@sofaanalyst5286]

Both boxers got checked last fight, so let’s not act like Tyson is the only one who has a reason to be on high alert

[@totalbmx]

Usyk knows you're coming to the body, He'll counter it

[@ziggy-1]

Been saying since the whyte fight that usyk would easily out skill fury. Furys style of using his size and looking for the stoppage is easy for usyk as fury wont be able to use his size to an effect when usyk doesnt stop moving and switching angles

[@jordanhunter-pb3og]

Fury can also Box and move lol he can adapt when he needs to it won’t be a walk in the park for either fighter. Fury goes back to boxing he will win the fight

[@shonwamcfeckerty7363]

Aye but for heavyweight usyk is a little man pal, sure fury’s getting worse but is so big will just be able to bully him, let’s just wait n see

[@MarksMindBox]

The only style that's ever proven effective against Usyk is to utilise physicality, rough him up and hurt him. Chisora put him in difficult positions. Dubois hurt him with controversial shots. You think Fury is physically incapable of imposing his size on Usyk?

[@krigs-gk8ml]

doesn't matter with size when fighting uysk. uysk doesn't stay still in one place to be bullied in the clinch. Fury needs to bring back old fury in this fight hit and move. make it a boring fight to win against uysk but then uysk is far more skilled than fury in terms of pure boxing.@@shonwamcfeckerty7363

[@TheJoker-um9tp]

Chisora was ruffing up uysk and fury has about 5/6 inches in arm length, I can see fury getting a point deduction. Joshua doesn't do the ruff stuff . If uysk wins he will have been put through a washing machine to do it. Furys pride , plus furys nasty side will not allow uysk just to jab and throw lefts and move away. I like uysk but I would love to see him bashed up and thrown around. Which is furys only way to win .

[@markbraxton1289]

Joe Calzaghe was the same as Usyk the same amount of punchs in the twelve round as the first...stamina beats skill sometimes

[@eifionjones196]

I think father time is a factor and it comes sooner for fighters that don't live the life. Hatton was done by 31 who led a similar life style. Usyk is a pound for pound top 10 so it's an Usyk points

[@madaickiwon292]

😂😂😂😂

[@esseffsee]

​@@madaickiwon292Good argument

[@Maroon498]

Usyk wins on points. Never been so confident.

[@SamMerchant-vn4or]

He might know 'what time it is', but does he even have enough time to get into peak fighting shape, it's a short period between the two fights. Usyk is never out of shape.

[@Danny-nk6oq]

This is an unbelievable conversation of boxing 🥊

[@madaickiwon292]

4 meatheads with zero clue

[@RabJ208]

Good stuff!!

[@ek3281]

Look forward to Usyk v Ngannou with Usyk defending the unified title

[@theinnovist2211]

Usyk been looking like an unstoppable force for years now Fury’s in big trouble

[@olliesmart4003]

Usyk lets you have success but he makes you work for it, which is why he’s always so strong down the stretch of the fight

[@user-uf4fw7dl9h]

When you lot get together and talk heavy weight boxing like this it's in a league of it's own. Well done lads. In regards to the fight if it happens Usyk wins and wins by KO/stoppage within 9rounds... In fact I'll go as far as saying Usyk will retire him for ever! Can't wait to watch the live and post fight analysis.

[@aidangreen3308]

This is what you want to happen not what will happen 🤣

[@aidangreen3308]

Which heavyweight boxer has he knocked out 🤣

[@TheUnknown_unknown]

Usyks conditioning is the next level, throws so many punches so fast, he will win on points unless fury catches him which is unlikely

[@t.a.p4554]

if you look closely , Usyk move quite the same like Pacquaio.... go watch it again if not believe...

[@chrisk7082]

The best comment on this podcast and something that doesn’t get mentioned much is when the guy says Usyk has never looked in trouble (apart from low blow gate). Whereas Fury has looked in trouble and been down a few times. However, this may count for nothing on the night. I’m calling this a 55/45 fight in Usyk’s favour.

[@dm9817587]

Awesome pod

[@cinemadics5722]

Usyk for the W

[@heffnerhefz5905]

The only chance fury ever will have to beat usyk is if he adapted his old herky jerky style which am afraid he can no longer adapt. Usyk beats fury easier than he beat joshua watch!

[@cawstongreenway]

I love how you guys pull it apart so much and come back in with stuff that I just never even considered. And all with banter, too 👍

[@giulio861]

If fury wins it shows how good he is. As he is up against a top class pound for pound fighter with a unique boxers brain of course if fury wins he will be the better boxer not necessarily the better man good luck to both men it takes courage and guts to fight but I still feel usyk will win

[@mrmoon1482]

Usyk will win on points and probably knock fury down along the way

[@MartinJamesLee.exboxer]

What actually worries me with tyson having a good training camp and really doing it properly could actually work against him due to how hes treated his body and the fact its only next month. Hes looking lean but its in such a short space of time im not sure its going to be good. Il be honest if he's shows up and he's the best he can be and he looks fantastic and puts on a mega fantastic performance im not joking il have to question it if he does. Furys been fantastic but coming back against wilder was 1 thing usyk is a different ball games. I can't see how in such a short space of time given what we've seen the last 3 to 4 years fury can just turn it on like that. Im not saying he can't win he can but if he does I expect a slug fest and fury to look not fantastic but a big man fight and gets the job done but its a big ask.

[@Azad_2024_]

Geordie not seeing a world where fury wins on points is a bit naive haha. There is clear potential for a robbery here. In fact that's what I think will play out.

[@dontbewoke]

Great analysis from these guys and nice to see theyre all English ; but the link to Lawrences youtube channel doesnt work?

[@kie1996]

Fury has looked this way since the 3rd Wilder fight imo. It’s just a natural part of an athlete aging and slowing down

[@Twatman_21]

He looked good against Whyte but has looked poor since then.

[@gettingcheeky6597]

@@Twatman_21it’s easy to look good against a heavy bag on legs when you’ve got a big reach advantage

[@gardensaladdude90]

Yeah, honestly if he didn’t have his struggles for a couple years back in 2015 I think he would’ve displayed his prime skills more

[@boxingtruth2167]

No it’s not It’s being a slob, a coke head and not training or fighting and eating like a pig THATS WHAT HAPPENS

[@mrspecialk1234]

@@Twatman_21 or maybe Whyte was done and has been for years….Whyte gets hurt in every fight he’s been in and his chin is shot….the Whyte fight flattered Fury.

[@hanspettergundersen7301]

Usyk is actually very strong! And the body shot, or low blow, that Dubois was able to catch him with had lots to do with the heavy rain and that the canvas was very slippery

[@benghiskahn3673]

Totally agree. That canvas needed a Caution Wet Floor sign on it. Usyk slipped a few times because the slippy canvas was disruptive to his natural footwork and movement.

[@mbsnyderc]

I think both fighters are going to come into this fight in the best condition possible there neither one past having there best night.I still pick Usyk to win a decision.but anything could happen.

[@kevlar1373]

Amazing discussion lads! Shame the fights been called off till may now. We’ll see what happens. Hopefully fury doesn’t shithouse it again. I keep going back and forth on this but I think usysk wins by decision but it will be one hell of a fight. Fury is an amazing fighter and he knows this will probably be the hardest fight of his career (and probably his last giant ‘REAL’ fight, possibly AJ) so he’ll be up for it & take it serious.

[@notsobadkarma]

in reality fury,s got to be the best he,s ever been against usyk , and it will be his hardest fight in his career

[@TheDuttoni]

Usyk UD for me

[@ChipChera]

Resume to me counts too: The level of opponents make you a better boxer every fight. Usyk comes from the Dubious fight, then 24 rounds with AJ, Chisora, Whiterspoon, Gassiev, Bellew, Huck, Briedis. Fury has had only Wilder on his most recent big name opponents.

[@lordfarquard9902]

But Otto Wallin beat Gassiev handily? Witherspoon and Chisora aren’t names to be proud of either.

[@benkargans2987]

Class video lads, heart says fury head says Usyk. I’m going Usyk round 10

[@samuelmekaat7722]

Usyk for the win brother.