FURY vs USYK | Who Will Be UNDISPUTED? 🥊

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The Pain Game

The Pain Game

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@sr2340
@sr2340 10 ай бұрын
Usyk paces himself 6-8 every time on purpose. Part of his game plan. It isn’t him aging, it is normal for him.
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd 10 ай бұрын
If he does that against a Fury at 100 percent he won't last 12
@sr2340
@sr2340 10 ай бұрын
@@weallfollowmanutd lol ok, you thinking Fury still has a gas tank is crazy. If Fury doesn’t get Usyk by the first 6 rounds it’s over for him.
@whereis99
@whereis99 10 ай бұрын
@@sr2340fury aint the same fury he was. Everyone keeps saying “If fury..” bro fury is past his prime🤣
@mbsnyderc
@mbsnyderc 10 ай бұрын
@@weallfollowmanutd I think your highly over estimating Fury.
@sr2340
@sr2340 10 ай бұрын
@@whereis99 hey man I know and like I said if Fury doesn’t get Usyk out of there in under 6 rounds it’s over for him. Dude is gonna have a heart attack by the 11th
@deepbalboa
@deepbalboa 10 ай бұрын
Usyk is going to collect all of the Infinity Stones! Usyk will complete the full boxing game at 100% via World Gold, Olympic Gold, Muhammad Ali trophy, Undisputed Cruiserweight, Undisputed Heavyweight, Lineal, Ring Magazine, Undefeated, Pound for Pound #1, TBE, The Greatest. There’s just beauty in symmetry!
@sgmotto7280
@sgmotto7280 10 ай бұрын
Ali ain’t in the top 10 anymore
@beaverking69
@beaverking69 10 ай бұрын
Not a chance
@poundforpoundboxing8943
@poundforpoundboxing8943 10 ай бұрын
I hope he then rematches Fury, and doubles it to prove its no luck!
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
Simp
@kennethandersen3710
@kennethandersen3710 10 ай бұрын
So much agree, USYK is the better of those two absolutely 🥊👊
@chalky_white
@chalky_white 10 ай бұрын
If Fury look like he did against Francis, it’s not gonna be a good night for him
@randomname5646
@randomname5646 10 ай бұрын
We need the Fury from the 2nd wilder fight
@tombuckton2335
@tombuckton2335 10 ай бұрын
Just like if Usyk fights how he fought Dubois
@BillieBentley-qe5ov
@BillieBentley-qe5ov 10 ай бұрын
That's what I said to and I also think if that Fury fights the AJ vs Wallin that AJ would win
@ProGamer___
@ProGamer___ 10 ай бұрын
you can say the same about usyk vs dubois
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
if Usyk looks like he did against Chisora then he will get smashed
@fergusstevenston
@fergusstevenston 10 ай бұрын
6’8” guys do not go to the body against shorter guys
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
he landed a devastating bodyshot against Whyte
@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@shonwamcfeckerty7363 10 ай бұрын
Usual freaks in comments making something up thinking they’re edgy 👎
@spaghettileggedducker
@spaghettileggedducker 10 ай бұрын
​@@Marabarra94a body shot didn't get Whyte out of there though
@SpyroTek
@SpyroTek 10 ай бұрын
@@spaghettileggedducker But did he go for a body shot?
@aarongeorge1989
@aarongeorge1989 10 ай бұрын
@@SpyroTek but Whyte is 6’4 he said he was talking about throwing them against the shorter guys
@jeremyordaz
@jeremyordaz 10 ай бұрын
This is going to look a lot like Crawford vs Spence. Only difference is maybe Fury will see the final bell. Usyk got this!
@darrenjones1413
@darrenjones1413 10 ай бұрын
Dempsey Vs Willard
@paulmeaden5731
@paulmeaden5731 10 ай бұрын
Usyk has amazing powers of recovery. He can be hurt, but 5 seconds later he's back
@galleon1968
@galleon1968 10 ай бұрын
or 4 mins
@michaelafubwa8125
@michaelafubwa8125 10 ай бұрын
Fury will beat Usyk. Easy!
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
He didn’t get back up to that gut shot from Dubois though did he?
@paulmeaden5731
@paulmeaden5731 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 he would have if needed.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
@@paulmeaden5731 coulda woulda shoulda. He looked like he was in fucking agony to me, not like he could just hop to his feet whistling 😗
@BoxingPicks
@BoxingPicks 10 ай бұрын
Don’t want to hear any excuses about Fury being past his best when Usyk slaps him around. Usyk is older than him
@JoeChard
@JoeChard 8 ай бұрын
In fairness you’re right there should be no excuses if he loses however usyk being older means nothing because everyone is different some people are finished earlier.
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@BoxingPicks
@BoxingPicks 8 ай бұрын
@@JoeChard thats no-ones problem but Fury’s mate. One is an athlete, the other one pretends to be
@johnhenry4844
@johnhenry4844 8 ай бұрын
Fury’s diet and mentality will do him in, shame such lost potential, he could have been the greatest of an era after klitschko
@BoxingPicks
@BoxingPicks 8 ай бұрын
@@johnhenry4844 nothing about his resume screams best of his era. Usyk and AJ have better resume’s than him
@imjustincredible
@imjustincredible 10 ай бұрын
This was actually a well balanced good discussion - good points made all around for the most part 👍
@michaelperlov3249
@michaelperlov3249 10 ай бұрын
Bellew didn’t outbox Usyk for 6 rounds because Bellew is a better technician, Usyks team instructed Usyk to be in the first gear and once they noticed fatigue from Bellew, Usyk switched into his second gear and that was all she wrote.
@egikskallagrimsson5703
@egikskallagrimsson5703 10 ай бұрын
That's exactly what Usyk does mentally break his opponents down
@reece7713
@reece7713 6 ай бұрын
Not really. Bellew was the better boxer he just wasn't training as hard to be as fit as usyk has a completely different level of fitness. Chisora beat Usyk end of.
@KMD-qj1qc
@KMD-qj1qc 10 ай бұрын
Can’t see any boxer right now beating a modern day crusier weight legend like Usyk, he’s too good for the current division modern division
@hilly451
@hilly451 10 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous the disrespect the man gets he's levels above everyone in the Heavyweight division! World boxing super series winner, undisputed cruiser weight champion, and in 3 years at Heavyweight he has as good a record as Fury has 😂
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
@@hilly451Is this Fury or Usyk? Usyk gets called the greatest boxer of all time by most of KZbin. Fury gets called a bum who beats nobody ever.
@four-twenty4205
@four-twenty4205 10 ай бұрын
​@@lordfarquard9902- If Fury beats Usyk everyone will say Usyk was too small 😂
@thetruesquad5059
@thetruesquad5059 10 ай бұрын
U keep copying and pasting this comment blud
@thetruesquad5059
@thetruesquad5059 10 ай бұрын
​@@four-twenty4205nah more like the ref let fury get away wth "boxing" super dirty
@SWJ_
@SWJ_ 10 ай бұрын
Don’t be surprised if they gift Fury a decision if it goes 12 rounds and it’s even remotely close. Turki and the 2 promoters (Eddie and Frank) want that Fury-AJ fight so badly. If Fury can maul 7 rounds to make them messy, he’ll get those 7 rounds on 2 of the judges’ scorecards.
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
They can have Fury v AJ after they both lose 😆
@G22865
@G22865 10 ай бұрын
This is what I see too. Usyk proving to be superior over 12 but the judges having their own agenda
@Azad_2024_
@Azad_2024_ 10 ай бұрын
Precisely what will go down. Bookmark this.
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
Nice excuses already
@ChargedWords
@ChargedWords 10 ай бұрын
I had fury to be knocked down and win against Francis. His legs can't stay underneath him and Francis was the most powerful puncher in the UFC. If it went to judges Saudi wouldn't let fury lose. It was glaringly obvious to me, gutted I didn't put more on.
@Clymax01
@Clymax01 10 ай бұрын
Everyone laughed at Usyk years ago when he said he would go up to heavyweight and beat Fury & Joshua Who’s laughing now ?
@serioustraining2959
@serioustraining2959 10 ай бұрын
I think a bunch of those guys are living in a different dimension, and defending fury because he is Brit. Usyk shown many times that he can outbox bigger blokes. And I think that fury will struggle to land shots on a smaller, slik and faster opponent. Usyk is always exceptionally conditioned, he is fast, can take punch, and can adapt. He is in camp since November and clearly is super dedicated. Whereas Fury shown to be able get back up once knocked down, and looks more agile when compared to most other hw. But his conditioning is not that great, he will gas out, and will be stopped like Debois in round 10-11.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
Wilder caught Fury flush and couldn’t keep him down. Usyk bangs like a 6 year old compared to Wilder.
@plushstyles8599
@plushstyles8599 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902one bee sting you can ride it but when 10s of bees are stinging at the same time, you get put down. Usyk throws punches in bunches. If u get up, more punches are coming.
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc 10 ай бұрын
Brits r that way, it’s their nature
@Highonlife24
@Highonlife24 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 Your arguing based on the assumption that Usyk needs to knockout Fury to win. Usyk is a technical boxer not a power puncher. Like other technical fighters such as Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Muhammad Ali, Usyk can win on points alone.
@ABAB-dr9hv
@ABAB-dr9hv 10 ай бұрын
When has Fury struggled with conditioning 😂 When has he gassed out
@chukwudiobioma5366
@chukwudiobioma5366 10 ай бұрын
I'm leaning towards Usyk with a unanimous decision! That fight goes to 12 rounds.
@brianhanes5413
@brianhanes5413 10 ай бұрын
I had Usyk vs AJ 1 as 8-4. Was a 50/50 until the 9th round but what Usyk did to take over is he was strategically peppering Joshua's eye which allowed him to dominate the last 3 as his vision was limited.
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 10 ай бұрын
The rematch you mean? AJ won 2 rounds in their first bout. 3 tops. Rematch was level going into 10.
@jeremyazpilicueta-robinson5043
@jeremyazpilicueta-robinson5043 10 ай бұрын
Both fights were at worst 7-5 Usyk. To give AJ only 2rds is to say you dont know how to score fights or u just a hater ​@@t.d6379
@polarit7628
@polarit7628 10 ай бұрын
100%..... AJ did great in the 2nd but when he went for it..... Usyk just about survived. @@t.d6379
@donttouchyerbumnsniffit
@donttouchyerbumnsniffit 10 ай бұрын
I had both fights 9-3. The first fight I had it 5-3 after 8 and then Usyk just absolutely took over from 9 onwards. The second fight, whilst AJ was more positive coming forward and caught and hurt Usyk in the 9th, I still think Usyk outlanded him in almost every other round except maybe the first couple. I had AJ winning the first 2 rounds, Usyk winning the next 5 or 6 and then AJ had a huge 9th round. But, after that 9th round Usyk took it to another level and dominated big time!Could argue for 8-4 in the second fight but not more 🥊
@brianhanes5413
@brianhanes5413 9 ай бұрын
@t.d6379 most people gave Joshua 3 rounds in the first fight. Imo both were landing a similar amount of shots in the first fight until round 10+. Many of Usyk's shots were being blocked and AJ landed a decent amount of jabs. I don't give points for Usyk being "busier" as it doesn't really mean anything but that he was dancing around. I only count dancing if that dancing means you're landing more shots which he really wasn't for most of that fight.
@CS-pl8fc
@CS-pl8fc 10 ай бұрын
You guys are leaving out the Nandrolone in Fury's "really good run after Steve Cunningham". The guy got popped for full blown steroids before the Klitschko fight and they did nothing. The fact that none of you call this out is embarrassing.
@jlb7707
@jlb7707 10 ай бұрын
Maybe one day it'll be the proof to removed him from the professional records of boxing.
@plushstyles8599
@plushstyles8599 10 ай бұрын
News going around now is Jai Opetaia has been sent home for allegedly dropping Fury twice in sparring. No way that Fury beats Usyk.
@omarsuarez2444
@omarsuarez2444 10 ай бұрын
If the ref allows bully tactics by fury ie. keep grabbing, leaning and elbowing usyk, fury will win. If the ref only allows boxing, usyk will win.
@emmaunelalli7096
@emmaunelalli7096 10 ай бұрын
You're correct
@arnoldmagqaza7860
@arnoldmagqaza7860 10 ай бұрын
That dude with the red shirt cant stop blowing Fury.
@Intolerance2778
@Intolerance2778 10 ай бұрын
Standard blinded fury fan
@stevelovell5081
@stevelovell5081 10 ай бұрын
Hilarious as neither of you know who this red t shirt guy is. Divs
@G1TheJooga
@G1TheJooga 10 ай бұрын
@@stevelovell5081he can scrap 😤
@ralphthomson2680
@ralphthomson2680 10 ай бұрын
It’s embarrassing 🙈
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc 10 ай бұрын
Pipe Smoker?
@bobibest89
@bobibest89 10 ай бұрын
Usyk is going to take Fury back to school.
@davehoward22
@davehoward22 10 ай бұрын
Furys gonna beat usyk like hes down a country lane .
@jlb7707
@jlb7707 10 ай бұрын
​@@davehoward22I envision Fury with a bottle of moonshine, dressed in a big chicken suit waddling and clucking away 😂
@vajidali2658
@vajidali2658 10 ай бұрын
Hope Usyk takes the W. Fury pissed away all his good will with me
@Drelaw658
@Drelaw658 10 ай бұрын
Hope fury takes it just to see everyone in shambles
@brianhanes5413
@brianhanes5413 10 ай бұрын
There are loads of people who would spark Fury. Unless he fights and beats Joshua, Sanchez, Zhang, Hrgovic, he wont redeem himself. ​@Drelaw658
@brianhanes5413
@brianhanes5413 10 ай бұрын
​@@Drelaw658Fury still has 2 losses to McDermott and Ngannou
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
@@brianhanes5413 Make that 3 - he should have been stopped on cuts v Wallin
@Drelaw658
@Drelaw658 10 ай бұрын
@@brianhanes5413 let’s say he does beat usyk. Fury doesn’t need to prove himself against any of those guys. They need to prove themselves against fury. What have they done in their careers compared to fury if he wins this? Fury would have beaten three different champions on away soil and become a multiple time world champion. Hrgovic, zhang, and especially Sanchez haven’t done anything close to that. The only fight he owes to the public after usyk is Joshua
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
For the very first time Usyk is going to show us his secret - his POWER. Usyk wins by stoppage & then retires from boxing.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
Tell that to Bellew.
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 Bellew? I know Usyk KOd Bellew, but...... Fury took Wilder's power; he will NOT be able to take Usyk's power which is how Usyk will show us his power with Fury.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
@@rosiemason-rk4cm You said for the very first time like he’d not nearly killed men with his POWER before 😅😂
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 Fury is noted for his ability to recover from a hard knockdown. Which other boxers like that or with noted granite chins has Usyk stopped? Give me some names.....
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
What power?
@James__________________
@James__________________ 10 ай бұрын
Said ever since Usyk beat AJ first time I see Usyk taking it
@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@shonwamcfeckerty7363 10 ай бұрын
Fury’s sparking both 👍
@Rabbitzz
@Rabbitzz 10 ай бұрын
​@@shonwamcfeckerty7363hopefully
@freedom4life123
@freedom4life123 10 ай бұрын
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 THEN U WOKE UP
@dodgeviper56
@dodgeviper56 10 ай бұрын
Fury couldn't spark a match 😂
@morgancarolan8680
@morgancarolan8680 10 ай бұрын
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363you’re delusional 🤣🤣🤣🤡
@alexduran2476
@alexduran2476 10 ай бұрын
Has Usyk ever been tied up/smothered by anyone? Seems like he's always been too slippery to clinch
@JackEFC1878
@JackEFC1878 10 ай бұрын
The argument for Fury is size, but that’s been the argument for everyone Usyk has fought at heavyweight. Yes Fury is better technically than Joshua etc but he’s still a mile off Usyk. He leaves his body VERY open at times, but he hasn’t fought anyone good enough to expose it
@simonhh
@simonhh 10 ай бұрын
None of Usyk's opponents have ever tried to use their size though. You can only say Chisora tried but he was the same height. Both Joshua and Dubois stood off hoping to use their reach.
@Id_Rambo_it
@Id_Rambo_it 10 ай бұрын
Fury will do his klitchko tactics jab hold and lean using his weight. Don't be surprised if it's just as boring as that fight
@matthewcamina8508
@matthewcamina8508 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@Id_Rambo_itI’d be surprised if this is his approach. Usyk was asked to leave a Klitschko camp for boxing rings around him when preparing for Fury.
@Id_Rambo_it
@Id_Rambo_it 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewcamina8508 well he ain't gunna outbox him, so how you reckon he's gunna go about things?
@matthewcamina8508
@matthewcamina8508 10 ай бұрын
@@Id_Rambo_it No idea mate. I do agree that he’s got to use his size, but I see Usyk being too elusive. It’s all part of the intrigue. Wouldn’t mind seeing Usyk pull this off.
@alvshill
@alvshill 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these round tables. Usyk will win by 10th round TKO in the style of death by 1000 cuts.
@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@shonwamcfeckerty7363 10 ай бұрын
Sound a big erected to me pal
@Generalindifference
@Generalindifference 10 ай бұрын
Can't see him stopping fury but a good shout for ud
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
Usyk hasn't got a chance
@alvshill
@alvshill 10 ай бұрын
@@madaickiwon292 friend, every opponent has a ‘chance’. Ask boxing rookie Ngannou.. he’ll tell you how it works.
@luke-ti3fu
@luke-ti3fu 10 ай бұрын
Imo Fury comes in at a career lightest. Attempts to box Usyk and it remains close for the first 6. Then Usyk s engine kicks in.
@larryjablinski3570
@larryjablinski3570 10 ай бұрын
You'll be surprised how ineffective usyks engine is against a man that weighs 4 stone more than him
@ryanwatterson4038
@ryanwatterson4038 10 ай бұрын
​@@larryjablinski3570like the other 200lb guys with less skill and power than usyk that put fury on his ass?
@larryjablinski3570
@larryjablinski3570 10 ай бұрын
@@ryanwatterson4038 like Cunningham? Yes exactly. That's genuinely a good example I would have used to prove my point lol
@danielsmart8013
@danielsmart8013 10 ай бұрын
Joey Knight is class 👏 that comment regarding Lomachenko was that guy who always found a way to win, and then when he lost it’s like ‘wow, they can lose’ is just so spot on, been thinking it for years
@ryantgiles08
@ryantgiles08 10 ай бұрын
When did loma take his first loss mate ?
@danielsmart8013
@danielsmart8013 10 ай бұрын
@@ryantgiles08 I’m aware he lost early in his pro career but I was talking about when he looked unstoppable
@sofaanalyst5286
@sofaanalyst5286 10 ай бұрын
Both boxers got checked last fight, so let’s not act like Tyson is the only one who has a reason to be on high alert
@roncooley5676
@roncooley5676 10 ай бұрын
Best line up talking all things boxing great debate & can't wait for the watch along. True geordie keep this set of lads for all the big fights
@brmawe
@brmawe 10 ай бұрын
5:16 "He took on the most feared boxer we've seen since Mike Tyson arguably" - What? Nonsense! Fury fought a guy who albeit had very little skill but had big power.
@BB49.
@BB49. 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree apart from wilder having power, the only power wilder has was when fighting tomato cans
@orangerelram1982
@orangerelram1982 10 ай бұрын
@@BB49. This is the most stupid argument, so called tomato cans still have chins! in fact many journeymen have the best chins. Hence why sometimes upcoming boxers have to settle for decisions!
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
he did. he fought Wlad who was unbeaten for 10 years
@brmawe
@brmawe 10 ай бұрын
@@Marabarra94 1. He was talking about Wilder 2. Wlad was not feared like Mike or any 80's, 90's heavyweight, not even close.
@jlb7707
@jlb7707 10 ай бұрын
​@THE.GYPSY.PRINCE Fury was afraid to rematch W KLITSCHKO. That's how Fury began his reign, ducking, hiding, and embarrassing the sport. WWE needs to hire this 🤡.
@doncuadrado8489
@doncuadrado8489 10 ай бұрын
Well done to everyone involved with this production...... excellent analysis of the fight and everything that is possibly relevant was discussed. Thoroughly enjoyed it. C'mon Usyk. Looking forward to seeing the definitive performance of your career and most probably a UD after 12. One final point......Fury won't win the pre fight mind games. He psyched out Wilder and messed with his head. Usyk is mentally strong and believes he will win. Half the battle.
@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@shonwamcfeckerty7363 10 ай бұрын
Stop glazing pal n talk bout fists yeah 👍
@WishMount
@WishMount 10 ай бұрын
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 have a day off lad
@freedom4life123
@freedom4life123 10 ай бұрын
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 COPE
@maxcreepteks3364
@maxcreepteks3364 10 ай бұрын
*Thank you for the video! There is another aspect - behind Usyk's shoulders is a country at war. He is in constant contact with our defenders and I am sure they are asking him to win - so mentally he is like a rock. He just can't let them down.*
@janisj8
@janisj8 10 ай бұрын
As I said before in my humble opinion is that Oleksandr Usyk just know how to win. It is his personality trait, not just a boxing skill. He finds the way to win, he finds how to adapt, how to stay through the storm like in fight with Chisora and 9.round second fight with AJ, he knows how to survive and deliver W. I follow Usyk's career from 2018, I live near Ukraine and I know ukrainian mentality. My prediction is this: I see two scenarios. Either Fury will rough Usyk up and bang him heavy early, which most likely can stop Usyk. Another scenario, which I lean towards more is this, Usyk will show his best fight as a BOXER, he will be so quick, so elusive, so accurate, even more than in his first fight with AJ. Look up guys Usyk vs Gassiev for undisputed cruiserweight title, Usyk was flying and Gassiev was punching air. Good luck and let us enjoy this fight fans.
@michaelfayombo6370
@michaelfayombo6370 10 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter what Usyk do all that day, Tyson Fury is gonna stop Usyk.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
I’d say Tyson Fury knows how to win in a much more extreme way than Usyk. He should have never got up in round 12 vs Wilder.
@user-he2ou2ex2f
@user-he2ou2ex2f 10 ай бұрын
None of these 2 outcomes will happen. Both fighters are on the wane. Either fighter for a very narrow points win.
@Nickk9704
@Nickk9704 10 ай бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902Facts brother
@patriceaqa288
@patriceaqa288 10 ай бұрын
​@@Nickk9704indeed facts. However there is simply no way based on science and reality, that the wilder trilogy must've taken something out of him. 8 knockdowns shared. Knockout shots absorbed. Neither are the same now
@chazmax-np4xe
@chazmax-np4xe 10 ай бұрын
Great debate, lads. Yes, Fury's leg are definitely shot, just like Lewis at 37. When your defense is your ability to move, expect Usyk to land at will after he has forced Fury to move around for 8 exhausting rounds. Easy fight if Usyk stick to the plan, and he has impeccable discipline as a fighter, like Bivol.
@BernhardBernard
@BernhardBernard 10 ай бұрын
The ring was wet when Usyk fought Dubious. Thats why he adjusted and stayed in the pocket there fellas
@antoniotorcoli702
@antoniotorcoli702 10 ай бұрын
There is no debate. The better man is by far the better boxer.
@reddevilreview97
@reddevilreview97 10 ай бұрын
Love this kind of round table discussions
@Garcia061
@Garcia061 10 ай бұрын
Remember what Cunningham did to Fury? It was a long time ago but Usyk is Cunningham x 100. Unless Fury has taken this super seriously Usyk is winning. I don’t see Usyk getting a TKO even with his punch rate. Fury’s chin is good. But if it goes to the cards and Fury can’t use his weight (hard against the white rabbit), then Usyk on the cards for me. No doubt. Fury’s weight has worked on other people but Usyk has way too much ring IQ and engine in him to let that happen. Or if it does it will take half a round for Usyk to adapt.
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
Shaun Porter beat Usyk the same year Fury beat Cunningham
@kie1996
@kie1996 10 ай бұрын
Fury has looked this way since the 3rd Wilder fight imo. It’s just a natural part of an athlete aging and slowing down
@Idk_1838
@Idk_1838 10 ай бұрын
He looked good against Whyte but has looked poor since then.
@gettingcheeky6597
@gettingcheeky6597 10 ай бұрын
@@Idk_1838it’s easy to look good against a heavy bag on legs when you’ve got a big reach advantage
@gardensaladdude90
@gardensaladdude90 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, honestly if he didn’t have his struggles for a couple years back in 2015 I think he would’ve displayed his prime skills more
@Gaur-TR7D
@Gaur-TR7D 10 ай бұрын
Did Jai Opetaia KO Undisputed Tyson Fury in Training Camp Tho??? Allegedly...😂Peeeeaaaak😅
@stanjuofficial
@stanjuofficial 10 ай бұрын
Forget the Ngannou fight!!!!!!!! Whether 10 years ago or Feb 17th - Usyk is beating Fury all day, everyday, twice on Sunday. Usyk is the original real OG
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
Nobody will be forgetting the Ngannou fight if Usyk wins. Same as nobody will be forgetting the Chisora fight if Fury bullies him and wins.
@theinnovist2211
@theinnovist2211 10 ай бұрын
Usyk been looking like an unstoppable force for years now Fury’s in big trouble
@totalbmx
@totalbmx 10 ай бұрын
Usyk knows you're coming to the body, He'll counter it
@dogsbollocksgenius9480
@dogsbollocksgenius9480 10 ай бұрын
Usyk beats him easier than he beat Joshua, been saying it for years, it’s not even a close fight
@gabrielsteffensen3700
@gabrielsteffensen3700 10 ай бұрын
Absolute fools saying bellew was outboxing usyk and could’ve won if he was younger. Usyk outlanded bellew with at least 50 punches until the stoppage. Brits see what they want to see. Malignagi was the only man in that arena unbiased. Bellew at any age would’ve never beaten usyk and the man probably agreeing with me is bellew himself
@symunir9022
@symunir9022 10 ай бұрын
Good chat. Thanks.
@cinemadics5722
@cinemadics5722 10 ай бұрын
Usyk for the W
@brianhanes5413
@brianhanes5413 10 ай бұрын
Fury scares that he won= Cunningham, Pijovic, Wallin Fury scares that he lost= McDermott, Ngannou
@saintdon4461
@saintdon4461 10 ай бұрын
he was 21 when he fought mcdermott..usyk lost at the same age in amateurs..perspective
@marks9948
@marks9948 10 ай бұрын
i think Usyk will win this on points but the judges will fudge the cards for Fury in order to get an AJ Fury megafight. Although I'd love to see Fury get stopped tbh.
@paulstephenson5815
@paulstephenson5815 10 ай бұрын
Fury’s never fought anyone that throws 60 to 70 punches per round while he fidgets and feints but only throws 30 punches max . Fury will just get out worked but I still think he’ll pull out in fight week
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
You think he fears Usyk? I doubt it the guys been smashed by the 2 hardest hitters in combat sports history.
@jlb7707
@jlb7707 10 ай бұрын
I think Fury will find a way out before fight night too. 💯
@GreyLionWorld
@GreyLionWorld 10 ай бұрын
If the version of Usyk that faced Joshua in the 2nd fight turns up vs Tyson Fury Usyk will win a close decision and potentially stop Tyson fury In the championship rounds mark my word! . I was shocked when I saw the level Usyk came with in the Joshua 2nd fight and I've watch many of Usyk fights. How quickly Usyk can adjust, how hard he hits for size and the skill level being able to totally shut down anything that comes at him leaving his opponents mentally drained and confused at what to do to win. Joshua couldn't even use his size usyk countered and used movement faints. I haven't seen anyone capable of doing this in the heavyweight division. Fury showed he doesn't know how to adjust/ adapt a different strategy quickly when the initial is going wrong vs Ngannou when he took fury jab away with the counters. That for me shows Tyson boxing iq is no where near the level of Usyk and as the fight reaches the later rounds Usyk will break Fury down.
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
the turnaround between round 9 and 10 in Usyk v AJ 2 was incredible - Usyk just went up a gear... I can't see Fury keeping up with that sort of pace
@OriginalNuttah93
@OriginalNuttah93 10 ай бұрын
As much as I think you're making some good points I have to disagree with Fury's IQ. He has incredibly high boxing IQ which isn't too far off Usyk, but I think his body isn't able to carry out certain things like it used to and he had a bad night by his standards. Fury is also A switch hitter but has neglected some of his skills. A big factor with Ngannou and why hindsight is special is he has an incredible reach and he's a monster who trusts his chin so he was all wrong for fury, despite losing. A seasoned Ngannou would have obliterated him that night. Still, Fury can definitely beat Usyk and the only way is if he prepares like never before. Usyk can also win and is a tremendous boxer. I'm leaning towards the bigger man on the night if both are at their best.
@polarit7628
@polarit7628 10 ай бұрын
100% on this...... AJ had him hurt.... but he dug into a level that only the greats of all time can get too.@@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
@@OriginalNuttah93 lots of people are going by the “a good big ‘un will beat a good little one” but by that token Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson would have never become champions. You made a good point about Fury’s body not being able to carry out certain strategies. Well, he’s gonna need to be more skilful and nimble than at ANY time in the past. Fury beat Wilder by bulking up and wearing him out. Wilder is probably the worst boxer (in terms of skill and fundamentals) than anyone in the top 10 in the division… Personally I think Fury’s lack of proper training and fights since Wilder II has already taken its toll. It’s one thing to come back from inactivity at 27, he’s now 35 and literally a fat b45tard. My money is on Usyk and I think his conditioning will be the deciding factor from the 7-8th round onwards. I think the first 7-8 rounds will be quite even and Usyk will rinse Fury from the 9th onwards. Might even get a TKO.
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
@@polarit7628 I genuinely can’t see Fury hurting Usyk like AJ did. I think AJ is a harder, proper power-puncher which Fury never has been and never will be. I can’t see Fury connecting anything like enough times to hurt Usyk and I can see Usyk making adjustments to his game plan if he does. I also can’t see Fury using his bulk the same way he did against Wilder. Usyk is no mug to let him do that. He’ll make Fury chase him and go in and out of range while landing jabs and left straights, all the time dancing around a less mobile Fury. I think Usyk will wear Fury out physically and possibly mentally by the time we get to the championship rounds.
@The.zigsta
@The.zigsta 10 ай бұрын
Been saying since the whyte fight that usyk would easily out skill fury. Furys style of using his size and looking for the stoppage is easy for usyk as fury wont be able to use his size to an effect when usyk doesnt stop moving and switching angles
@jordanhunter-pb3og
@jordanhunter-pb3og 10 ай бұрын
Fury can also Box and move lol he can adapt when he needs to it won’t be a walk in the park for either fighter. Fury goes back to boxing he will win the fight
@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@shonwamcfeckerty7363 10 ай бұрын
Aye but for heavyweight usyk is a little man pal, sure fury’s getting worse but is so big will just be able to bully him, let’s just wait n see
@MarksMindBox
@MarksMindBox 10 ай бұрын
The only style that's ever proven effective against Usyk is to utilise physicality, rough him up and hurt him. Chisora put him in difficult positions. Dubois hurt him with controversial shots. You think Fury is physically incapable of imposing his size on Usyk?
@thedriveraccount
@thedriveraccount 10 ай бұрын
doesn't matter with size when fighting uysk. uysk doesn't stay still in one place to be bullied in the clinch. Fury needs to bring back old fury in this fight hit and move. make it a boring fight to win against uysk but then uysk is far more skilled than fury in terms of pure boxing.@@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@TheJoker-um9tp
@TheJoker-um9tp 10 ай бұрын
Chisora was ruffing up uysk and fury has about 5/6 inches in arm length, I can see fury getting a point deduction. Joshua doesn't do the ruff stuff . If uysk wins he will have been put through a washing machine to do it. Furys pride , plus furys nasty side will not allow uysk just to jab and throw lefts and move away. I like uysk but I would love to see him bashed up and thrown around. Which is furys only way to win .
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 10 ай бұрын
I suspect IQ will take the win, who has the higher mental ability. Usyk should take it if he just keeps moving and Fury gassed after 5.
@Chiliongiggs
@Chiliongiggs 10 ай бұрын
Fury has serious challenges fighting a southpaw fighter. That's why Otto Wallin gave him a hard time. Francis in his fight with him quickly noticed it that's why he was switching southpaw often. Usyk will be a nightmare to him because of this.
@SamMerchant-vn4or
@SamMerchant-vn4or 10 ай бұрын
He might know 'what time it is', but does he even have enough time to get into peak fighting shape, it's a short period between the two fights. Usyk is never out of shape.
@kaykath4575
@kaykath4575 10 ай бұрын
Good job lads
@Connorbailey0309
@Connorbailey0309 10 ай бұрын
I personally back an usyk late stoppage. I know it’s out there however I believe the volume that usyk will throw will stop a weathered fury
@Ricky2901
@Ricky2901 10 ай бұрын
Like the honesty of the show
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
Usyk's cardio and conditioning will be the difference maker. I can't see Fury returning to his boxing best and I think his lifestyle has already caught up with him. Best case scenario for Fury will be Usyk winning on points by 2-3 rounds. That's if he shows up.
@Ollie-o6c
@Ollie-o6c 10 ай бұрын
Usyk lets you have success but he makes you work for it, which is why he’s always so strong down the stretch of the fight
@eifionjones196
@eifionjones196 10 ай бұрын
I think father time is a factor and it comes sooner for fighters that don't live the life. Hatton was done by 31 who led a similar life style. Usyk is a pound for pound top 10 so it's an Usyk points
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@esseffsee
@esseffsee 10 ай бұрын
​@@madaickiwon292Good argument
@MamaLuigi253
@MamaLuigi253 10 ай бұрын
That guy that said a younger tony bellew could beat Usyk needs to never talk about boxing again.
@TheUnknown_unknown
@TheUnknown_unknown 10 ай бұрын
Usyks conditioning is the next level, throws so many punches so fast, he will win on points unless fury catches him which is unlikely
@amandaanne1357
@amandaanne1357 10 ай бұрын
i love listening to each of you so thank you. i wish the best for you and yours.
@ek3281
@ek3281 10 ай бұрын
Look forward to Usyk v Ngannou with Usyk defending the unified title
@HT_653
@HT_653 10 ай бұрын
Great job lads the video was class
@jonathanburn4388
@jonathanburn4388 10 ай бұрын
Uysk has to stop fury or at least drop him multiple times otherwise he'll get done on the cards
@JonathanBarnes
@JonathanBarnes 10 ай бұрын
Usyk by a mile!
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
no. will get smashed
@stomingaben
@stomingaben 10 ай бұрын
I seriously don't know what to expect and that is what makes this fight exciting. I can see Fury bullying and stopping Usyk. But I can also see Usyk putting on a masterclass and make Fury look silly. Or it could be a tight points victory either way. I haven't got a clue how that fight will play out.
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
@@stomingaben exactly. i feel the same. i can see them both win 1x. intriguing
@sly_tendencies87
@sly_tendencies87 10 ай бұрын
You wanna bet on that?
@Marabarra94
@Marabarra94 10 ай бұрын
@@sly_tendencies87 they all bet on Fury. it's all talk...
@Danny-nk6oq
@Danny-nk6oq 10 ай бұрын
This is an unbelievable conversation of boxing 🥊
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
4 meatheads with zero clue
@JC_1997
@JC_1997 10 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis
@alinvid6098
@alinvid6098 10 ай бұрын
Good one but I don't find it fair that they all rooted for Fury... was that maybe because they're english ?
@chrisk7082
@chrisk7082 10 ай бұрын
The best comment on this podcast and something that doesn’t get mentioned much is when the guy says Usyk has never looked in trouble (apart from low blow gate). Whereas Fury has looked in trouble and been down a few times. However, this may count for nothing on the night. I’m calling this a 55/45 fight in Usyk’s favour.
@philbarnes6678
@philbarnes6678 10 ай бұрын
We're about a week away from Fury getting injured and calling the fight off.
@Maroon498
@Maroon498 10 ай бұрын
Usyk wins on points. Never been so confident.
@kiwitelevision
@kiwitelevision 10 ай бұрын
Lovd Joey's insight..... Never heard of him before. OK i must be a noob. Had to subscribe to his channel. Nice work😀
@outlander234
@outlander234 10 ай бұрын
Fury's change of style only worked for Wilder. That Fury in first Wilder fight would have frustrated Francis that's true and he would have won on points much more convincingly. But I dont think Fury can get back to that shape, he is just much older now, no way he can move the same as when he was what 30.
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 10 ай бұрын
And Whyte, sparked him mid rounds
@JIm-tc4dl
@JIm-tc4dl 10 ай бұрын
First time watching and brilliant chat between these guys 😊
@notsobadkarma
@notsobadkarma 10 ай бұрын
in reality fury,s got to be the best he,s ever been against usyk , and it will be his hardest fight in his career
@markbraxton1289
@markbraxton1289 10 ай бұрын
Joe Calzaghe was the same as Usyk the same amount of punchs in the twelve round as the first...stamina beats skill sometimes
@Jon-yx3xc
@Jon-yx3xc 10 ай бұрын
Can’t see anything but a usyk win - a southpaw and an ex cruiserweight, both of which he has struggled with - fury not turning up to fights in shape and going by the ngannou fight his workrate isn’t good enough
@ChipChera
@ChipChera 10 ай бұрын
Resume to me counts too: The level of opponents make you a better boxer every fight. Usyk comes from the Dubious fight, then 24 rounds with AJ, Chisora, Whiterspoon, Gassiev, Bellew, Huck, Briedis. Fury has had only Wilder on his most recent big name opponents.
@lordfarquard9902
@lordfarquard9902 10 ай бұрын
But Otto Wallin beat Gassiev handily? Witherspoon and Chisora aren’t names to be proud of either.
@paulkirby2761
@paulkirby2761 10 ай бұрын
Usyk seems to be fighting for legacy and money. Fury seems to be fighting just for money. I think that should be the biggest factor in who wins and who wants the win more. Would he even be fighting Usyk if the Saudis didn't offer him everything he wanted? Probably not. Usyks cardio and movement is what wins it for me. I don't think Fury hits harder or is quicker than AJ and AJ couldn't catch and corner Usyk in 24 rounds with Usyk getting stronger as the fight wore on which isn't a surprise since big guys being made move about and worked hard having to carry that big frame about will fade quicker. I think Usyk wins this unless Fury pulls a rabbit out of a hat.
@TheJoker-um9tp
@TheJoker-um9tp 10 ай бұрын
Furys ego will not want to end his career being beaten by a soft punching cruiserweight. I can see it getting dirty . Fury always talks about being this generations best . If he beats uysk, who best Joshua twice. Fury will cemented thst claim. Fury will not think ok im earning 70ml so i im ok with losing. Just as with Cunningham elbows , headlocks . Uysk will have to go through hell to win.
@G22865
@G22865 10 ай бұрын
Good point. Against common opponent like johnson, wallin and klitschko, AJ gets the job done by ko whilst fury goes the distance. Not so sure the gap between the two is so wide so if usyk handled Joshua's speed and power then he should cope with furys. Wilder was furys best win but we've seen how Parker breezed through with.der without going through hell like fury did and joshua beat Parker. The fact that usyk has twice eat joshua puts him in a good position going into this fight because I don't think furys body is in its prime. Dubois and joshua bought more explosivness and were handled by usyk
@danielmori501
@danielmori501 10 ай бұрын
Great review!
@2ClutchCorey
@2ClutchCorey 10 ай бұрын
I’ll be surprised if fury can get 2 rounds off usyk tbh
@davidmc446
@davidmc446 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 10 ай бұрын
I'll be surprised if Usyk walks out the ring
@astradala1845
@astradala1845 9 ай бұрын
@@madaickiwon292well you’re not a boxing fan then 😂😂
@madaickiwon292
@madaickiwon292 9 ай бұрын
@@astradala1845 I was amateur boxer for 10 yrs Remind me how many fights you've had watching TV on your couch?
@JIm-tc4dl
@JIm-tc4dl 10 ай бұрын
I think Uysk is the best I have seen in my life , just amazing individual performances and amazing team.
@hanspettergundersen7301
@hanspettergundersen7301 10 ай бұрын
Usyk is actually very strong! And the body shot, or low blow, that Dubois was able to catch him with had lots to do with the heavy rain and that the canvas was very slippery
@benghiskahn3673
@benghiskahn3673 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. That canvas needed a Caution Wet Floor sign on it. Usyk slipped a few times because the slippy canvas was disruptive to his natural footwork and movement.
@peteyoxonmusic
@peteyoxonmusic 10 ай бұрын
Great podcast lads
@TheWhooah
@TheWhooah 10 ай бұрын
Guys USYK is pronounced “OOSIC” NOT “YOUSIC” -
@sle2979
@sle2979 10 ай бұрын
I don't care what version of Fury shows up because Usyk is going to beat him and everyone will finally see the difference between Usyk and everyone else.
@reggieking1045
@reggieking1045 10 ай бұрын
Fury to win by way of judges robbing Usyk who clearly won.
@whitechoco705
@whitechoco705 6 ай бұрын
Usyk is just a better fighter in general he just has that raw natural talent dude is tough as nails!
@t.a.p4554
@t.a.p4554 10 ай бұрын
if you look closely , Usyk move quite the same like Pacquaio.... go watch it again if not believe...
@patricknez7258
@patricknez7258 10 ай бұрын
Awesome vid great discussion. The matchups are so interesting to me, I'm really curious how Francis v Usyk would go too
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 10 ай бұрын
we might just get to see that after they both win ;-)
@saintdon4461
@saintdon4461 10 ай бұрын
Brian gonna be on suicide watch if fury wins
@johnaldred6864
@johnaldred6864 10 ай бұрын
😂
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
You are going to be on suicide watch when Fury loses!
@saintdon4461
@saintdon4461 10 ай бұрын
@@rosiemason-rk4cm you will have to transition back if fury wins
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm 10 ай бұрын
@@saintdon4461 You will either disappear from these message boards or you will change your screen name. NO WAY do you come on here as saintdon after Fury has lost. Fact.
@saintdon4461
@saintdon4461 10 ай бұрын
@@rosiemason-rk4cm do you want to be my bird?
@danielharries5468
@danielharries5468 10 ай бұрын
Fury to lose the fight but the judges recieve a brown envelope and give him the nod Because the number AJ-Fury will do will be enormous for undisputed
@adambrown550
@adambrown550 10 ай бұрын
Sadly I don’t think this is too far off…
@samuelmekaat7722
@samuelmekaat7722 10 ай бұрын
Usyk for the win brother.
@jamskof
@jamskof 10 ай бұрын
It will ABSOLUTELY go to the judges. And the judges will lean on fury.
@TheDuttoni
@TheDuttoni 10 ай бұрын
Usyk UD for me
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 10 ай бұрын
Joey Knight's boxing knowledge is amazing. I hope Geordie and the crew commentate on fight night.
@heffnerhefz5905
@heffnerhefz5905 10 ай бұрын
The only chance fury ever will have to beat usyk is if he adapted his old herky jerky style which am afraid he can no longer adapt. Usyk beats fury easier than he beat joshua watch!
@highjenks3d
@highjenks3d 10 ай бұрын
I've studied ever minute of usyks career his amateur record is unbelievable he has got what you could call the huge edge in experience points, Usyk is a winner, he works harder he is more concentrated on the task at hand and I've never seen him even waiver slightly his eye 👁️ is on the prize and has been since he did Aj for the second time, he has been one ton of muscle on a one track mind he has no distractions this killer knows his business he's a predator fury better run and forget his pride if you don't have what it takes don't play the game because you'll lose your stake but remember this at least it's the nature of the beast, fury will be wondering what the F happened, Usyk is not only going to be remembered as one the pound for pound greatest but, he will also and maybe even more so, he will be remembered years from now as one of the greatest not only European trainers but, one of the greatest trainers of all time as well, I really would not be surprised if Usyk wins this fight and the rematch if fury wants it, Usyk will retire and be the first to remain retired and walk away and start his next challenge becoming the greatest trainer/coach of all time that is what this man is
@highjenks3d
@highjenks3d 10 ай бұрын
Usyk a man that make no mistake about it, knows exactly what he wants and he knows exactly how to get it, fury is going to want to quit, I'm telling you it's going to ruin fury he's not as strong mentally as you think that ego is huge and when Usyk deflates it the way he is going to do it Fury will be a broken man it could really mentally F him up permanently he's not mentally strong enough to be bested in the way and manner that he is about to be beaten it messed AJ up in the head bad but AJ will recover and he will be champion again but fury in his mind what has served him so well is that ego driven head and when that is destroyed especially the second time it's going to be devastating to fury he won't ever come back from
@highjenks3d
@highjenks3d 10 ай бұрын
I'll take you guys money if you'd like, I'll be retiring on this proceeds of this fight, bet the farm the inheritance, the savings and the loans the titles the deeds all that you got it's all or nothing I've never been so sure of an outcome in my life, and I don't gamble Ive never placed a bet for $$$ in my life but it's all riding all of it on two hands that I know will not fail because it's everything or nothing at all . Fury has silver spoon disease a Ukrainian underdog look at what the little underdog is doing to the second largest military on this planet it's not the size of the dog in this fight that is going to determine the outcome it's going to be determined by the size of the fight in the dog that is going to win this fight who wants this more than the other who wants it more wins and I already know. I'm retiring an extremely wealthy man. And if I'm wrong I will be a homeless destitute.
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