Fusion 360 Tutorial - How to Model an Assembly Drawer with Dovetails from Start to Finish Part 2

[@funafter5081]

Hey Lars, Man, you are putting us beginners through our paces but that's what makes it challenging and fun. So far, so good...worked through the problems...

[@danl.4743]

Hey Lars, thank you for these videos. You are a natural teacher. You made this learning curve so much easier for me. Excellent job! Much appreciated!

[@cadcamstuff]

Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video and comment! Glad you find it helpful. Have an awesome day!!

[@kobipeeri1788]

Dear Lars. The way you teaching, is a big WOW, thank you very much.

[@cadcamstuff]

You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!

[@phillipanton1704]

Lars... you are my hero, Ive watched this series so many times and you teach wonderfully. Thank you.

[@cadcamstuff]

That is awesome to hear Phillip Anton .Thank you for watching the videos

[@bryanmurray8011]

Hi lars, the press pull on the right panel didn't go the full -0.125, only -0.100. I find this happens a lot when I go minus on a pull. Love your tutorials, thanks.

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Bryan, Thank you for taking the time to watch! You can't overwrite the -0.001? Best, Lars

[@MrBrewzr]

I’m a new wood worker and I’ve been looking for something besides that other program to use. Thank you so much for this channel. You are a really good teacher watching your videos really inspires confidence, you make it feel very do able.

[@MarcelMe]

Hi Lars, parametric modeling is a great feature. In extruding the bottom part you did not use a parameter for thickness. How would you do that?

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Marcel, I would use the Parameter option under the Modify drop-down. I thought that was a little too advanced for this video series. Thank you for watching the videos! Have a great day!

[@finbat]

The only change I would make is when you are doing the "as built joint" is to select the bottom panel first and then the front. In this case is does not matter, but when you do other joints the order of pick is important. The first picked is the component that will "move", so in this case since the front is grounded, I would pick the bottom panel first.

[@cadcamstuff]

That is a great point, and thank you for explaining it so well! appreciate it! Have a great day!

[@FGWFKB]

Again, another great learning video Lars! Learning a lot from your videos!

[@cadcamstuff]

Thank you so much, Frank! Have an awesome day!

[@tbip2001]

These are such amazing tutorials. I love that you explain every step of what you're clicking. You seem like such a great guy too. Many thanks

[@cadcamstuff]

That is awesome to hear tbip2001 .Thank you for watching the videos

[@TheRuko15]

Hey Lars. First off, I love your tutorials. Second, I was wondering why you model the side panels separately. Why don't you just model one and mirror it over to the other side?

[@FameeGFX]

He said this in the comments of Part 1; "I'll quote my hero, Zig Ziglar, "Repetition is the key in all learning" :-)"

[@rmetzler80]

At 9:35 it looks like the bottom panel isn't fitting inside the groove, but is floating next to it. So when you cut the bottom panel it wouldn't be large enough to fit the groove on all sides.

[@TheMetallerik]

You are almost correct, I noticed it too. When extruding bottom pannel at 9:50, there are 2 rectangles that needs to be selected. Otherwise it wont connect to front pannel.

[@faktordj]

Thank you very much, my question is the following as you get to make the cut, if in the options says "new body" I follow the instructions and I can not do the bottom 2:10

[@cadcamstuff]

Did you figure it out? Not sure I understand what you mean about the bottom. Are you telling me you can't do the bottom component for the draw? Best, Lars

[@calaban9]

Thank you for all your videos. I've learned a lot. I do have a question... shouldn't the four inner edges have been projected for the bottom drawer part as opposed to the outer edge? So that the bottom drawer panel sits in the groove and doesn't fall out? Or did i miss what was being selected?

[@jwatkins123]

3:27 when I try to use the colinear command it flags up an error saying 'Sketch geometry is over constrained'?

[@learohke7722]

While I don't know if I've found The Way, I certainly have found A way. When I make the rectangle and try to apply collinear, I get the same error message as you. Looking at the points of the rectangle, I noticed that some had a dot, and an icon next to them, the "coincident" icon. Indeed, I got three icons per dot. Clicking one of the icons, and then pressing delete, I was able to remove the constraint, and -poof-, collinear worked like a charm! I still have no idea why coincident was applied, but at least I know what caused my problem. Hopefully, it's the same thing that caused your problem.

[@koootzz1]

Hi. A late response but I found if you draw the 2 point rectangle so that it is not touching the existing edges, I.e. smaller than the panel, you can colinear all four sides of the rectangle and that works fine.

[@SimopsAus]

Thanks Lars.....excellent tutorials as always! Couple questions......for the bottom panel could you just select the inner bottom edge of each of the four grooves and use that to sketch the size of the panel and then extrude......why use projection? Also seen on some other tutorials use of the Epsilon command for parametric dimensioning of parts......is this just another method or am I off the mark here? Cheers

[@cadcamstuff]

Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. Hmm, not sure if you could bypass the project command for the bottom. Would be could if you could. I have to test that out :-) I am not sure what Epsilon is? Best, Lars

[@SimopsAus]

Hi Lars......ok I think I got epsilon mixed up with sigma........ Greek uppercase E.......I have seen this command used to set parameters but not sure if that is the case or same what you are explaining??

[@SimopsAus]

Lars Christensen OK I think I got epsilon mixed up with Sigma....Greek capital E......

[@gillsgills]

Thanks for the video Lars. Wouldn't it be way more efficient to just make an extrude of a single one of those groove sketches, to cut all four panels at once?

[@tylerg.carroll128]

Hey Lars, I noticed during your video that your pan and orbit functions seem to move much more organically than mine. I find when I move around the fusion space it is extremely jerky and chaotic I was wondering if you had any pointers on this?

Are you using Fusion360 App installed on your OS or directly inside a browser? Maybe simply an older/slower machine?

[@jwatkins123]

its because he's using a Space Pilot not a mouse

[@karlrludwig]

Hey, Lars. Your teaching has been great so far! Just wondering, what would happen if you left the other components visible when making a cut? Thanks!

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Karl, if you make the component visible it will be cut. I always recommend that you turn off components that you don't want to be touched. If you make that a habit, chances are you will stay out of trouble :-) Best, Lars

[@karlrludwig]

Makes sense! Thanks for the explanation!

[@martybadboy]

"Colin-ear" d00d you are killing me! I'm hoping to hear "coin-cident". Good series. I'm only pulling your leg. :-)

[@cadcamstuff]

lol, Dang it!! Sometimes it just sounds right in my head :-)

[@EagleStorm26]

Is it possible to share the project so far and see if you can spot where we might be having trouble creating the colinear relationship to the notch in the front panel

[@cadcamstuff]

You are more than welcome to email me and I will take a look when I find some time, just make sure you send a follow up email as I have a hard time connecting youtube comments with project invites :-) [e-mail]

[@robertdacus1810]

Having the same problem as below. I'm using the free 30-day version and when I go to use the colinear tool to create the dado on the right panel I can not select the small line segment in the adjoining face board. I have to create the dado cut and then use P to project onto the other side. Then I can use the colinear tool. Glad I saw the posts after 2 days and 4 different recreations :)

[@cadcamstuff]

I am honestly not sure exactly what is going on. It has nothing to do with the software version because trial and paid version are the same.

[@robertdacus1810]

Hi Lars, Thanks for responding. I noticed other users below having the same issue. I event started the entire tutorial over thinking I missed a step like grounding a piece or not connecting properly. Every component is black ( fully defined). I can select other segments "through" the design but not the segments that are the notch. As others below said I could use the "P" command and project over to the other side then "cut it out," but then I still have issues making the pieces colinear. Maybe there is a version difference? Love the series. It's been immensely helpful and yes at times frustrating :) Please keep the series going! Rob

[@marclemaire9512]

Hello Lars and everone. The latest upgrade fixed what looked like a bug when you try to get the colinear constraint. It's fixed and really easy to do!

[@nicholasphelps7489]

at 3:32 It will not let me use the collinear tool to match my box to the front piece. It always says select other geometries. Any help would be great! Thanks!

[@cadcamstuff]

Hello Nicholas, Thank you for watching the videos! Not sure why you can do that. Are you not looking straight at the model? That could cause it possibly

[@nicholasphelps7489]

I think I had a few problems. The largest of which was I made a new plane to sketch on instead of sketching directly on the the side of the board. I did end up figuring that out after a while and got through the whole tutorial. thank you so much!

[@ittayd]

Why didn't you use constraints for the thickness of the bottom panel, so that if the grooves change, it changes thickness as well? Or why not start with the bottom panel and use constraints to create the grooves?

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Ittay Dror Thank you for watching! That would be totally legit to do it that way.

[@irracema51]

Hello Lars, maybe it is too late to obtain an answer, but we never no. Definitly I have a problem with "Project command". I repeat again and again but doen't work. So I think I Don't do in the right way or Don't understand very well what you are saying. For example at 8:59 I Don't understand yours words, my English is not perfect. So if you can help me you would be so kind. Regards.

[@mageKnightz]

Amazing tutorials as always! I have a question... Why does it matter if a component can "fly" around the scene? Wouldn't that be actually good in case you need to quickly change components position?

[@kodiak2fitty]

In this case, we know we want the pieces of the drawer to remain together; yes there are other cases where you want components to freely move. If the boards weren't constrained in the real world by dovetails, glue or screws, it would fall apart. Lars covers joint in other videos where you can, for example, spin or slide 2 components with respect to each other.

[@sergioaraujo3103]

Thank you for the tutorial, great videos! I'm starting to learn 3D Modeling and this videos have really come in handy!

[@cadcamstuff]

That is awesome to hear Sérgio Araújo .Thank you for watching the videos

[@robertdacus1810]

Just saw Johns post and I will double check that I m not looking from the wrong side. However, it should not matter. Fusion 360 knows and allows you to click the segment "through" the wood, right?

[@oss059]

Hi Lars, Great tutorials, but i'm having a problem with the bottom panel. After projecting the lines around the back edge of the slots when i Press/Pull the bottom panel the part that would locate in the front panel slot is missing. Seems when i select the bottom for the Press/Pull i have to select two parts, the main panel plus the part that would locate in the front slot. You seem to grab the whole panel in the video. Confused.

[@mikev1766]

Hey Lars, finally upgrading from SketchUp for my project designs and really learning the power of parametric design. Your videos are amazingly helpful. Thank you!

[@cadcamstuff]

That is awesome to hear Mike V .Thank you for watching the videos

[@MikeOchtman]

Best practice would have been to offset the four corners of the projected rectangle by a few thou inward to allow for changes in humidity that would cause that bottom panel to expand and shrink. If it expands it will press the edges apart, or warp the bottom.

[@cadcamstuff]

Excellent point! See, you clearly know woodworking :-)... Can't say I do. Thank you!!

[@jackberlien8916]

Hi Lars, got another question here...I keep having the problem where it won't allow me to select the faces as you are doing. For example, when I try to do the Project command to generate the bottom (8:54) it's not letting me select the bottom face of the dado- the highlight jumps from the back of the groove to the inside face of the drawer front panel (under where the bottom will be). It just skips over the bottom face of the dado.

[@michaeltaylor5249]

Lars, did you notice in the first dado for the bottom, it was .25 deep. all the others were .125 deep. Don't you want all them the same?

[@wellphoto3d]

0.25 is the width of the slot and -.125 is the depth

[@neoweithiam7106]

Hi Lars. At 3.26, I need to press "P" to project Front Panel before collinear command. If not I am unable to select line from Front Panel.

[@cadcamstuff]

Not sure what is going on...Can you do a test in another file with something similar...just want to know if it is a software problem. Best, Lars

[@averageguyrc3462]

I just created another sketch and replicated the problem we have been having with the collinear command. Pressing P, then selecting one of the lines and then using the collinear command seems to work. I then went and made a change to the first component to make sure it would translate to the second component and it did.

[@ChrisBrown-ol7gl]

Hi Lars, Fusion won't let me collinear the box in the right panel with the groove in the front panel. Any fix for this? Cheers mate.

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Chris, I have not come across this. Maybe check that you are looking right at the sketch face and not have the view in an angle. That could possibly cause this. Best, Lars

[@ChrisBrown-ol7gl]

Yea thats not it I'm absolutely stumped i even re-installed fusion thinking that might fix it but no it didn't help. when i hover over the front panel edges with collinear off they highlight black but when i select collinear it won't let me select them. If anybody else has had this issue or knows how to fix this i would love to hear from you. Cheers

[@averageguyrc3462]

I am having the exact same issue. Can't figure it out either.

[@neoweithiam7106]

Hi Lars. At 3.26, I need to press "P" to project Front Panel before collinear command. If not I am unable to select line from Front Panel.

[@centralzonetvtanzania7313]

Am also getting the same problem but in the first i was able to apply collinear but now when i apply collinear it only touches one line which is in the right panel but never highlight the other line of the front panel

[@chappycole5372]

How does one place Constraints on the Sketch Palette?

[@harvesthunt]

For component colors, is there a way to change the colors used? I'm color deficient and would like to make the differences in color larger at times. TIA Bill

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Billy Nicely Thank you for watching! Not at this point, no

[@shawbaws]

Thanks for content

[@eda73194]

Lars, Love your videos, you do an excellent job of teaching 3D modeling the "proper" way which makes life so much easier. Question: Would it be possible to model something similar to this video using pre-existing (semi-complex) components instead of modeling every piece? My goal is to model a full CNC/3D printer/Laser Cutter/whatever frame out of aluminum 2020 extrusions from McMaster (part # 5537T514). Starting simply: If possible, how would you go about modeling a box that is parametrically driven like in this video here where changing one or two dimensions would effect the constrained other components where you might normally use and extrude to control the length instead of a normal sketch dimension? Thank you and keep up the videos, they are very useful! -Eric P.S.I'm not sure I was clear so let me know if I should clarify my question.

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Eric, Thank you for taking the time to watch the videos! It can be done with some limits. First of, when you have an assembly, you can control component locations with joints. It might start to get harder if you import a screw from McMaster and then you want to change the length via the Parameters list. You might be able to cheat by making a rectangular side view box that cuts the length of the the screw and then drive that box length via the parameter table. btw. the parameter table I'm talking about can be found at the bottom of the modify drop-down. So I think my final answer is that it could be done, but I might in-vision some parametric headaches could occur :-)....Proof me wrong!!! I will be rooting for you!!! Hope this is helpful.

[@eda73194]

That's actually exactly the issue I had the first time I tried doing this, I changed one length and had to correct several errors. It worked but took me 15 minutes every time which defeated the purpose. I'll try using that trick of driving the length via boxes instead of using the parts directly. Thanks again, it was extremely helpful!

[@neoweithiam7106]

How does your view automatically change to iso view when Q is pressed? When I go through the tutorial, it only work sometimes.

[@cadcamstuff]

Go up and right-click the view cube in the upper right corner and select perspective with ortho faces...That should do it. One of the great users in this comment section figure that out.

[@karthikkumaravel2786]

Hi.... I loved your video.... can you plz send me the finished piece so that I can do it and my classmates can also copy that.... Plz help me....

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Karthik Kumaravel Thank you for watching! Here you go: a360.co/2w18e4i Best, Lars

[@karthikkumaravel2786]

Thank you verrrrrry much..... it was really helpful

[@cadcamstuff]

You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!

[@koford]

Ok, I accident clicked the wrong line. Say i choosed the outside line of the slot not inside. Where talking about botton panel / project. I extruded it and i can see that one of the side does not go into the slot. Is there any way i can edit the bottom panel and extend it into slot? Addition, I have to admit bottom panel was abit pain'n ass because of try select the line and some object was in my way. Somehow i manage to cath that line phewww. Now.. the slot plz or do i have to start all over? I would love to hear a new tip of extending it into slot :-) Edit: I tried again.. same thing again :-( , Here are picture that show my "problem" slotit.no/Fusion360/Project.jpg

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi koford Thank you for watching! If I understand what you are running into, make sure you select the little section also when extruding.

[@koford]

I started this guide all over again, and i ran into same problem. In this guide you did not check if your Bottom Panel actually went into the Front Panel slot. And i did exacly what you did in this guide. See my picture to show my issue: slotit.no/Fusion360/Slot.jpg as stated earlier, all other sides automaticly went inside but the Front Panel.

[@koford]

Yea you probalty right, after some thinking i can see the little section you mention there. So, it worked. Just strange you didn't do in this video. Now I do not know if it was supposed to enter in that slot. !!

[@mkintzel]

@@cadcamstuff Thanks! I missed this too

[@gredangeo]

Nice video. About the word Colinear though. Is it an accent thing? Pretty sure it's pronounced Co-lin-nee-ear. Because it's the the word Linear. but it's a Co-linear.

[@ericmac564]

Its one of the great things about his videos, the little nuances that make Lars Lars.

[@marclemaire9512]

Hello Lars, Your tutorial series are really helping me mastering Fusion360 but I'm stuck. When I try to do the colinear selection for the bottom slot, I can't select the horizontal surfaces of the front panel. I select the horizontal line that I've just made on the right panel, clicked on colinear, and if I try to select the top surface ouf the front panel, I receive the message "Select other geometry". Try as I might, just can't get past this step. And if I do, the model don't become parametric. I tried, and learned and now know this step is really important to master. Thanks in advance and keep up the good works!

[@JodyLeeSchroeder]

Are you using the trial version - i am and am having the same problem .. i think full version would allow one to use it in such a way after all it is a handy function

[@marclemaire9512]

I'm using the version for hobbyist, never had ANY problems doing Lars's Great Tutorials :) The colinear fonction works well when I'm doing the right hand panel, no problem there. But it refuses to recognize the top bottom surface, or any surface, of the front panel. Could the problem be the software upgrade since this tut was done?

[@funafter5081]

Dagnabit, I'm having the exact same problem! I am actually doing the tutorial right now...I just read some comments below and others with the same problem are using the P function to project the edge they want to make colinear and it seems to work...we'll see if it is a solution.

[@cadcamstuff]

Make sure you are looking directly at the part. Also, try to right-click the view cube in the upper right corner and make sure you are not in perspective mode. That can screw up selecting stuff. I will say, that if you project and edge and that make you move on...do that :-)

[@cadcamstuff]

Hi Jody, Not a bad thought, but the trial, hobbyist, and student version have all the same features as the paid verison.

[@notblenderguru]

Мужик - молодец.

[@michaeltaylor5249]

OOPs, I must correct myself. I rewound the video and you did make the push/pull on the front .125

[@ricouxstephane1628]

Great tutorial. Can't understand why you have 15 dislike :-( But you got MY like !

[@cadcamstuff]

Thank you RICOUX Stéphane :-)

[@borgorancho8556]

You've switched me from Siemens Solid Edge

[@cadcamstuff]

That is awesome to hear Borgo Rancho .Thank you for watching the videos