Future Enterprise D Refit Retrospective

[@hudsonball4702]

ARE YOU KIDDING!? Watching you blast a ship to pieces with the giant canon from ten forward would have been the best seat in the house!!!!

[@robdcollector2808]

Hudson Ball ...we need more Battlestar Galactica

[@longshot7601]

What I was struck with in All Good Things is that the appearance of the Enterprise-D refit was that it was the first instance of 3D space combat in the Star Trek universe.

[@jrsimpkin]

@@longshot7601 Spock: "His pattern suggests two dimensional thinking" Kirk: "Z-minus 10,000 meters"

[@longshot7601]

@@jrsimpkin Yes. I remember that from Wrath of Khan. It was still in a shared coordinate system where the XY plane was the dominate plane. In All Good Things the Enterprise-D Refit comes in with their X Axis perpendicular to the enemy's XY plane.

[@jrsimpkin]

@@longshot7601 I see what you're saying, and yes Future Enterprise was the first time a ship attacked by moving forward along the Z axis.

[@Kaminoyouni]

Wonder how this beast would've faired in the Dominion War, and if we factor in Voyager it could've had the anti-Borg armor plating.

[@kobayashibrynhild9622]

If it had the ablative armor, it would be even more awesome.

[@Ithinkiwill66]

EXACTLY

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

The Galaxy Refit was 25 years after the rest of ST:TNG. The armored Voyager was 20 years after ST:Voy IIRC. Together with the events of ST:DS9, that doesn't leave enough space for the anti-Borg armor unless said armor was invented just after VOY. There's also the caveat that the anti-cloak agreement went out the window in the future part of All Good Things because the Romulan Empire was no more. In the primary timeline, where both ST:Generations and ST:Voy happened, that agreement was still standing. But my main point would be that the cloak rather than the newest armor would be a Galaxy-Refit's primary defense; you wouldn't want to put _both_ on a hull that's way past its prime, just like you wouldn't put top-of-the-line equipment on an Excelsior in TNG's first season.

[@matthewbarabas3052]

probablt would have blown up the battleship the valiant found.

[@michaelkata2342]

Actually the cloaking device can be explained. Earlier The older Laforge tells Picard that the Klingons defeated the Romulans which means the treaty which prohibited the Federation from developing cloaking technology no longer applies.

[@mrScififan2]

Militarized Starfleet.

[@arsarma1808]

Also Hobus III exploded didn’t it.

@@arsarma1808 Not in this timeline.

[@RegBeta]

@@mrScififan2 Equals the best Starfleet IMO!

[@288theabe]

Markus Göpfert I think the Hobus star would’ve went nova regardless since it was a natural phenomenon

[@johnroscoe2406]

Riker decloaking firing a beam cannon of destiny straight through a Warbird's hull with his gray beard and No Nonsense demeanor was the coolest thing to happen in a series full of cool things to happen. Love that scene.

[@davedsilva]

Yeah!

[@dragonsystems5973]

"We needed those weapons, and a hell of a lot more" - Jonathon Archer

[@thesageofgames1871]

Jonathan Archer: (Sees refit Enterprise-D off in the distance) That'll work.

[@rlj151]

The red pinstripes at 5:48 added 0.1 warp factor. 😁. Another good episode.

[@Eyetrauma]

Excuse me, if it's red it's approximately 3 times faster 😉

[@kazmark_gl8652]

so that is why this ship can go warp 13!

[@ianhodge3556]

Char!!!

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Easier to redshift if you're already red.

[@Ironfrenzy217]

Ah, Ork Technology.

[@longshot7601]

I loved the appearance of the Enterprise-D Refit in All Good Things. I think that is the only time Star Trek showed 3D space combat.

[@Damo2690]

Star trek II

[@longshot7601]

@@Damo2690 They both shared the same coordinate system and the Enterprise did not change it's pitch or roll orientation. I can see fleets of ships sharing the same coordinate system to make formations easier (but the computers should be able to take care of that) but it makes sense for opposing sides to change their coordinate system to give their opponents one more variable to think of.

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

Exactly. ST:TNG has a strong "Nelson's Rule" going: "No matter how alien, both sides are always in agreement about the side that's "up." " The only few cases where ships are rolled randomly to one side is where they're out of order, an analogy to listing or capsized wet vessels. Even in the 3D battles, ships tend to fly over the enemy like planes, or dive below them like submarines, but always with their wings "level" from the enemy's perspective. Even the battle with the D-Refit resembles a surfacing submarine, even more so as it drops out of cloak just before firing from below.

[@Davanthall]

if the Defiant is Sisko's pimp hand, this thing is Riker's pimp hand.

[@ToonamiT0M]

Davanthall It's a shame that more people don't know that the Defiant's original name was the U.S.S. Ben Sisko's Mutha F***in' Pimp Hand.

[@fistpunder]

Well Riker the Pimp is Limp with that bastardized abortion.

[@novaiscool1]

More like Riker's pimp cane given how bad it fucked that Klingon war ship.

[@kentlindal5422]

El Fisto or Riker's big swinging D

[@Mephilis78]

@@ToonamiT0M If Sisko was played by Sam Jackson.

[@chrishatherley3531]

When I was a kid I had a Enterprise D model that could switch to the refit model, the 3rd nacelle tucked inside the hull with a lid, and the phase cannon and top cannons were spun out. Man I had some good times with that model!

[@eta_carithebrightlord3396]

Enterprise D super pursuit mode

[@KaiRam08]

Starfleet: We come in peace. Also Starfleet: We bought phasers in bulk.

[@Keihryon]

Takes them forever to adopt the Teddy Roosevelt theory of diplomacy.

[@douglasaranda2010]

Oh, we being attacked? Time to send... Fleets? Are you crazy Admiral? No! Send the diplomats!

[@iondustt]

When diplomacy fails, violence is the only option. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way.

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

The federation is a very balanced faction with a well-rounded technology mix (which is nevertheless a bit rough in places). Their torpedo tubes might have less range and firepower than Klingon disruptors on ships of comparable tonnage, but they make up for it in many aspects. Their ships aren't built around one mighty gun (and that includes the D Refit); they're neither glass cannons nor mighty glaciers. The range and punch they're lacking is made up by better chances to score an actual hit at range, the ammunition depth to keep fighting for minutes, the ability to take some hits and stay in the fight, and generally superior drive technology to assist ships in distress, escape from most ambushes, pursue flleing enemies, and delivering defeat in detail. The Galaxy class has been classified as a battleship by several outside factions, but they're true multi-role ships. If they look inferior to anyone else's dedicated warship class, it's always worth considering what the Federation can do should the need to fight arise: the Galaxy Refit, which has been upgunned, and whose scientific instrumentation has given way to more ammunition, antimatter, shield generators, and spare parts. "We come in peace, unless somebody slaughters our civilians. And to make matters worse, we ran out of bubblegum."

[@RexRye]

Omg the nostalgia you’ve just hit me with, the style of this video is so goddamn good

[@737215]

The production quality of these videos is wayyyy above his subscriber count. Dude could be doing JonTron numbers

[@erojerisiz1571]

A galaxy class with the nacelles of a sovereign? Best mod I've seen so far

[@dragonalpha9894]

Right! Narrow down the saucer some and streamline that big aft section and it would make more sense for a Enterprise - E in that specific timeline. Or a Prototype in Proper Prime.

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

I always thought that the Galaxy nacellas were on the small side. They make the ship look top-heavy (he said in the video that the bigger ones give the ship better balance, basically the same point), and the sideways saucer gives it a painfully _slow_ look in every sense of that word. But I guess the Galaxy was never built for speed, but for a good mix of features, including "fast enough." Tbf, internal volume is worth a lot if you wanna be versatile, so that excuses it a bit. And if you do the "long" instead of "wide" saucer wrong, it looks even _more_ top-heavy.

[@erojerisiz1571]

@@dragonalpha9894 narrowing down the saucer into a perfect circle would make it look like a giant excelsior

[@plpowner]

“Super” Pursuit Mode...Bonnie would be pissed!

[@tomhardware2254]

Yea someone doesn’t know their 80’s tv shows.

[@GameSack]

That 3rd nacelle always bothered me. Like... what does it do? Make it go faster? Why not put a 4th one underneath the ship as well? Maybe a few on the saucer section? Maybe the nacelles should also have additional nacelles attached to them? Cuts 5 or 10 minutes off of the commute!

[@scotttrammell4299]

Game Sack I’ve heard some people theorize it was actually there to power the phaser cannon by channeling warp power to it.

[@JunkBallMedia]

This sounds like a challenge to photoshop as many nacelles on the D as possible.

[@Flood520]

Yo dawg, we heard you like nacelles so we... etc.

[@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966]

I don't want to be the Third Nacelle, so...

[@kruleworld]

@@JunkBallMedia I thought of that many years ago, and decided once i'd had about 10 that just ditching the individual nacelles and just go for one big 'ring' nacelle www.angelfire.com/clone/digi3d/images/trekstuff/uss_destination01.jpg published in 1995 www.angelfire.com/clone/digi3d/images/trekstuff/uss_hurricane.jpg

[@jetjazz05]

I gotta say, I watch a few Star Trek oriented channels, and you definitely make the best content. Great visuals, good jokes, really informative. Great work, thanks!

[@-M0LE]

Jesse C it’s so refreshing

[@pwnmeisterage]

It's the cheeky delivery and amused perspective on nostalgia ... other channels do offer lots of awesome Star Trek content but this one is always "fun" to watch. It's surprising to me that Junkball doesn't do some Orville content (which thus far seems to be largely neglected on KZbin).

[@ExaltedDuck]

I always thought the 3rd nacelle looked really goofy and weird but that ventral cannon was one of the coolest things in TNG. Especially the one-shot kill on that Klingon battlecruiser.

[@resurrectedstarships]

I like your D-upgrade; dont be surprised if you see it on my channel someday NCC-6969 USS Junkball.

[@JunkBallMedia]

I’d be honored.

[@TheExactlyatmidnight]

please do it! I love to see a 3d render

[@jehb8945]

I saw all good things literally the day before I graduated 8th grade and holy crap. I remember discussing the refitted Enterprise D with a friend of mine just before my graduation ceremony.

[@Mephilis78]

I actually love this ship. I use it all the time in STO

[@GoodOldGamer]

Need to update this vid. The D did survive after all, lol.

[@Trekkie46]

Take a shot for every Knight Rider reference.

[@jk-gt9dv]

I wish make believe time was the nerdiest thing I did today. Thank you so much for another greatly researched video. You have all the skills. Thx

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

I know the Enterprise D is an iconic ship, but personally I prefer this future refit.

[@luisarruda3061]

Its phaser lance alone would give an imperial star destroyer a run for its money.

[@pwnmeisterage]

Direct comparison is largely speculative. But Imperial capital ships tend to be found in packs and tend to carry swarms of fighters. And while they have an alarming tendency to collide with each other they don't seem to put as much explodium into their critical systems.

[@luisarruda3061]

P phasers have pinpoint accuracy, so TIE fighters would be useless. Plus, Imperial vessels are really slow at sub-light speeds when compared to Federation starships. The vast majority of Fed starships can reach up to 0.90c, meanwhile what is the maximum sub-light speed of an ISD? 0.30c? About the exploding consoles, yeah I agree, I don’t know why they put TNT on that consoles. Maybe it is a self destruct mechanism.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@luisarruda3061 I don't think you should be traveling at relativistic speeds during a fight. but yes, everything other than a Battlestar would give an ISD a run for it's money, star wars is only superior to Star Trek in FTL travel. A single BC-304 for example would shred the imperial fleet at endor and come out without a scratch.

[@nudegamer6496]

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 I both agree AND disagree regarding the Battlestars. The remake Battlestars were far less advanced/powerful with technology comparable to about a century more advanced than our own current level, while the Original Series Battlestars were FAR more advanced. After all, the final scene of the Original Series has Apollo stating that the moon-landing craft seen in the transmission looked similar to what their people used over 1000 years ago.

[@platiuscyndar9017]

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 Star Trek combact routinely takes place at relativistic speeds, though 'standard' starfleet sublight speed is traditionally limited to 0.25c, or Impulse speed, for practicality it seems - ships can go faster and presumably do in combat. Also note that star trek ships are capable of fighting at warp, I. E. At FTL speeds. Though not actually leaving realspace probably helps with that.

[@TychoNorris]

I watched this episode yesterday and now you put something out about this episode thank you so much junk ball

[@JunkBallMedia]

Ah. We’re in sync.

[@R_C420]

I vigorously banged on the subscribe button. Didn't make a difference

[@RetroBerner]

This is dope, thanks for going back to your old style, really appreciate all the work you do man. Have a good New Year's

[@JunkBallMedia]

You too, bud.

[@johnbockelie3899]

Actually "All good things" is " a Christmas Carol " in outer space Scrooge: " young man , what day is it ? " " why , it's. Christmas day !". And, ," Lieutenant, what day is it?". Then Worf tells. Picard the Star date. The three ghosts of Christmas. We're the three..time lines shown . Q.could be marlies ghost. Human kind or life on Earth would end before it begins.and counselor Troi dies instead of tiny Tim.i in. Scrooges future if unchanged, he would die a complete unknown.So, All good.things is a Christmas.carol.in space. Thank you.

[@MShrader211]

Video not nearly long enough.... I could watch Galaxy Class Starships all day long! They are by far the most gorgeous ship design ever, they just look like they were made to travel amongst the stars. Ok I'm geeking out here.... 8-)

[@skyeplaysgames6734]

Omg the vid style aaaaaa it's back it's back

[@Spacegoat92]

I wanted to make my own cgi Trek series based on a Galaxy Class refit dreadnought serving during the Dominion war. The ship would have been built at the same time as the Defiant class but was mothballed due to the high cost, lessened urgency of the Borg threat, and violations of the treaty of Algeron (it had the phase cloak). After the Dominion took Deep Space 9, Starfleet command, with some influence from Section 31, decided to commission the ship and use it for deep covert operations behind enemy lines. It was going to have several story arcs including a fighter squadron based on the ship, and an elite unit of SAS type soldiers loosely based on the Angosians (The Hunted TNG). The commander of the ship was one of these soldiers but was severely injured in a previous battle as a Colonel and can no longer serve as a front line soldier, his only chance to stay in the fight is to be promoted to General and command a star ship. I had stories worked out and everything, it even had a crossover into the Starwars universe, courtesy of a convenient temporal vortex. Then i became an adult and had to adult and find work and all that adulty stuff so i never got around to doing it :-( I still dream of what might have been...

[@NapoleChan]

Damn your killing it with new content. I love it when it's on crazy kit bashing ships.

[@EnigmaticPenguin]

The Galaxy-X reminds me of something you'd see in the TNG DC comics of the early to mid 90's more than it does a proper ship design. Kinda neat for a bit of screen time in the finale, but I'm glad it was never featured outside of it. The design definitely has it's fan though - the design used to be one of the most popular mods for Star Trek Bridge Commander.

[@sharkdentures3247]

Why is the Enterprise D refit so cool? Two words: Phaser. Cannon!

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

I guess you could call it the Enterprise Defit.

[@CR500R]

Very underrated comment! Nice!

[@kirishima638]

*groan*

[@Qjimbo]

He says that himself in the video at 3:40

[@Angry.General1461]

@@CR500R Enterprise D is not a one of a kind Starship. It's a galaxy class Starship. There are several just like these built. After the Enterprise was destroyed in Star Trek generations I'm sure they renamed one of the other Galaxy class starships the Enterprise and did some modifications to it.

[@Speedj2]

"or as i like to call it, the nerdiest thing you'll do today" me: I dont know about that...

[@mc50992]

Your videos make me happy. So many didn't so I'm glad that I've found yours. Thank you for cheering me up.

[@dgerdi]

I remember the first time I saw this monster DECLOACKING and engaging the Klingons. It was like „WTF“ and after two seconds „Muahahaha!“

[@JohnVance]

Man I love your videos, they're so laid-back yet informative.

[@lancer737]

I have a question, how much is known about the Enterprise/ Constatution class of the NG era? We see wreckage of one at Wolf, but in the episode with Geordie and the hologram of the Engineer that made the Galaxy classes warp, we see a model of a Enterprise/ Constitution class that has lots of features that were never seen before. There's got to be information about that refit, both in universe and in real life.

[@DrewLSsix]

lancer737 there really doesn’t, someone made a model for a scene and that’s likely all there is to it.

[@DrewLSsix]

lancer737 Wait! There is one path left to take.... fan fic! I mean.... that’s how I cope with the proto Discovery from STIII and TNG. Got a whole novels worth of story to explain why that ship and that particular design seem to have lingered for over a century but is so rarely seen and doesn’t seem to influence the looks of other trek ships.

[@pwnmeisterage]

It was called "Galaxy-X" in some video games. "A proper battleship" which removed all the kindergarten/family stuff and most of the effete science/exploration stuff to add raw power, firepower, and useful military goodness.

[@elmanoroboto]

You're a huge nerd. Thanks. The theme song always makes me feel happy. Never change it.

[@JunkBallMedia]

Thanks. After all these years, I never get sick of that song. It’s the last thing I add so I associate it with finishing a video.

[@YeagerBomb-ww3bn]

Enterprise D refit was amazing. Hope she shows up again.

[@cooperread6989]

Check out IDW’s mirror universe comics. It’s used as the ISS Enterprise

[@YeagerBomb-ww3bn]

@@cooperread6989 thanks

[@Skyfire_The_Goth]

If you play star trek online you can fly one of your own.

[@jamesrussell8256]

While that may be all fine and dandy. I think both myself and other older school trek fans want to see the real deal in a real show. Read not that Discovery garbage that I still watch anyway just to support Trek. There is still a glimmer of hope on the horizon in the new Picard series.

[@darcraven01]

@BASIL!!!!! The pumpin' Seagull and as stated, in star trek online. lol

[@ZombieSlayerTakashi]

I had gotten this version of the Enterprise when I was a kid for Christmas one year. It was awesome! Even though I was more a Star Wars kid back then and barely watched Star Trek. The additional weapons and engine cell folded inside, turning it into the regular Enterprise D.

[@Doppleganger1983]

K.I.T.T. bashing lol i love knight rider, i think i'd like to see a video on that.

[@AndrewChapman]

As the Enterprise-D returned from the dead in PIC, imagine if Geordi refitted the ship to the "All Good Things..." look lol

[@SchardtCinematic]

They should have one in the new Picard series just to show that this design really did happen to the Galaxy class line of ships from All Good Things.

[@alcoholic402]

Unfortunately that did not happen

[@ChrisCooper312]

I have a model somewhere (probably in my parents loft) of the Enterprise D that could be transformed in this refit version. The extra nacelle slid out from the back of the saucer with the top cannons folding out at the same time. The top of the original nacelles had flip over sections to switch between original and refit. The bottom cannon came out from the bottom of the saucer.

[@uss_04]

Like how they added additional decks for the 3rd Nacelle to give the idea theres more power generation for the extra systems. Personally don’t like the awkward 3rd nacelle in terms of aesthetics. The Enterprise E’s longer nacelles would have given the design more balance for sure. 3rd nacelle makes it look too top heavy. But the fixed forward phaser is awesome..

[@kazmark_gl8652]

as someone who owns a model of both versions of the Enterprise, the third Nacelle definitely balances the ship weight wise because the Galaxy-X only needs one stand and the Enterprise needs two.

[@JohnnyZenith]

It would be my ship of choice.

[@metropod]

The fixed forward phaser’s official name is the “Spinal Phaser Lance.”

[@RichO1701e]

the 3rd nacelle was supposed to address the issue about warp travel damaging subspace, much like the Intrepid class nacelle's 45degree tilt at warp speed

[@JJfromPhilly67]

I really liked the refit/upgrade Enterprise D from All Good Things... I always thought the warp nacelles were too short on the Galaxy Class Starship. The 3rd nacelle added balance. Plus it kicked ass!

[@secondblackjack1051]

"All good stuff is Junkball Media Stuff"

[@RurouniKalain]

Loved this ship as a kid. Still do. Much enjoyed thank you. Meme placement was light and worked, as it should be, focusing on the subject matter. Well done.

[@huggiesunrise]

I love this ship.

[@LandmanEDC]

I lol’d at the Knight Rider turbo reference! 😆

[@ProPatriaRO]

Brilliant video dude

[@QA-ut7dd]

Huge fan of the AGT refit. Thanks for the vid, as always!!

[@supsup335]

So Many Knight Rider references! :)

[@seanmoore5897]

Another AMAZING video!!!! Funny, Amusing, Clear and to the point, Yet so ON point that it struck all the right cords. Please keep these coming. JunkBALL?!?! AmazeBALLS!!!

[@MythicFables]

Love your stuff! Keep it up!

[@uss_04]

Aw, I got my hype up over a new Junkball Media Intro. Still, you got me during a Star Trek binge.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

ANOTHER great video! Though tbh I NEVER liked this version of the ship... To me it always looked too bulky and like they were trying to hard to give it a different look without thinking it through... Im just grateful it was an imaginary dream future that Q created so it never actually existed... That part was thought through at least :P Keep up the great work!

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

I actually prefer this to the original

[@8bitKasper]

The grind joke got me ages ago in that other episode and it got me again in this one

[@MarshalArnold]

Is funny, the first time I watched All Good Things I was like ooh! 3rd warp engine? Massive phaser cannon? That's pretty sweet, but looking back this is the most ridiculous looking refit ever lol. Still love this seriese finale though!

[@kazmark_gl8652]

as someone who owns way more models of this specific ship, yes its ridiculous, but that makes me love it more.

[@MarshalArnold]

@@kazmark_gl8652 it's still awesome! But the best refit IMO was the 1701 refit for the Motion Picture! Pure bliss! Though I think the Galaxy class is my fav overall ship design :)

[@JohnnyZenith]

Disagree completely. It's my favourite ship.

[@SC-mq1eh]

agreed....fun, but soooo ridiculous

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

The third nacelle thing actually dates back to some beta canon from the TOS era with a Dreadnought variant of the Constitution...with the third nacelle attached to the back of the saucer.

[@marsm9]

Fantastic vid! Hope you had a good Christmas or Holidays and happy New year sir!

[@JunkBallMedia]

Thanks. You too.

[@dragonsword7370]

"Well, here we are again..."

[@clubtepes2046]

Added Nacelle bulges are the nacelle tops from the AMT 1/1400 Enterprise kit. Mega phasers are from the Revell 1/32 TOS BSG Viper kit.

[@joshuapacella007]

Nice!

[@AaronDanieltenni]

I always loved the All good things remodified Enterprise.

[@opsimathics]

this whole video was better than season 1 of Discovery

[@jamesrussell8256]

Ha ha, so true, so true.

[@gb1701]

Hell, this video was even better than the entire concept of Discovery AND J.J. Trek combined.

[@DiggyDiggy1919]

I really liked Discovery. Enter with no preconceptions or expectations and you may one day be pleasantly surprised by something new in Trek too.

[@jamesrussell8256]

@@DiggyDiggy1919 The second season does seem better to me. Granted I'm only three in. Some of the Short Treks I thought were good as well. Keep Trekking folks.

[@gabesnooks3549]

Those phaser strip humps added the the engine nacelles look like half of a nacelle of a galaxy class kit, probably the 1400 scale kit.

[@L00PdeL00P]

USS stargazer?

[@JunkBallMedia]

I have a short list of other ships, and that’s on it. No promises though.

[@Isteak80]

You are absolutely right. It IS the Enterprise D in Turbo Pursuit Mode, that is the best analogy I've seen made about it lol.

[@timothypage252]

I always thought this is how Dominion War-era Galaxy-class ships SHOULD have looked.

[@paratus04]

Fun Fact: Hallmark made a Christmas Ornament of this Second Fun Fact: In the Star Trek Original Series Novel ‘Dreadnought!’ (#29) the titular Dreadnought of the story was a three nacelle warship a rogue Admiral had commissioned to start a war and eventual coup. It also had a type of cloaking device.

[@obsidiansands]

I think the Enterprise D went through a few "refits" - at least 2 that I can think of - during it's series run until it met its end in Generations - nothing as a total makeover like the original Enterprise refit during Kirk's time, but it did have more than enough internally. I believe the ship was designed to be a bit more modular due to its original parameters as a long-term deep space exploration vessel before the Borg shenanigans came about thanks to Q's interference. As one of the largest ships at its time of incenption, it was more or less a warp-capable mini-starbase - especially if you factor in the amount of amenities it had as well as the families on board. My reasoning that I believe it was originally designed to be more modular is due to the designs of its sister-class ship: the Nebula class - it's got ALL of the power of a Galaxy class, but with more scientific leanings despite supposedly almost being just as armed to the teeth as the primary Galaxy class starships. The federation was slowly veering out of it's more militaristic slant and turning into true exploration until events sucked them all back into a more military footing.

[@DanielRichards644]

the ship was constantly getting refit in some way or the other, the bridge saw several subtle design changes over the years (and some major ones for the movie), not to mention basically every episode (or every other episode) of the first season or so saw them back at spacedock or somewhere for repairs or upgrades (refits). that damn ship was a lemon with how many times it had to go back for upgrades.

[@obsidiansands]

@@DanielRichards644 EXACTLY! But I don't think it was much of a lemon as it was basically "upgradable" due to it's design of being able to swap parts/modules like the nebula class is able to do for different mission parameters. If I remember correctly, it also had a huge ass industrial replicator to take care of recycling and fabbing of large new parts. The LCARS - while sort of "dated" now - is pretty ingenious in its concept in that you can easily reconfigure any new tech/hardware/system upgrade to the ship from there without having to clear out a physical console and replace them. Meaning you can upgrade the internals while still using the regular interface in an updated configuration. The only thing that I thought was slightly assbackwards were the tricorders - they should have gone with an "all-screen" design like the regular consoles, making it even more versatile. It never made any sense to have actual buttons/knobs/what-have-you on a tricorder which is Star Trek's version of a sonic screwdriver.

[@DanielRichards644]

@@obsidiansands i'd agree with the tricorders, if they already had full touchscreens everywhere else you would have thought they would do that with the portable device so it can do many more functions, but smart phones where to far out in the real world for them to think that way when they made the series, it does kinda make you wonder if they did a complete reboot (not sticking to ANY even remotely connected cannon) what would the Tricorders and other tech look like, would it be like the suit that the chick on Continuum wore where it was just built into there uniforms and they could generate a holographic display, would communicators be injected under the skin, I mean you would think anything that would limit the risk of tech getting "left behind" as they explore under developed planets would be embraced in the future and wearables are something coming into fashion in the last few years, so it would be only natural advancement of that tech to have it integrated into the uniform.

[@obsidiansands]

@@DanielRichards644 The few actual wearables they had were things like the communicator. It was communications, life signs readings, transporter mini-boosters, lojack, etc. I also scratch my head at their ideas of "flashlights". One would have thought LED would have already caught up with them lol. I remember a few eps where Geordi also USED a flashlight, I was like: "can't the dude also see in the pitch black dark with that thing on his face?"

[@SkyCharger001]

Geordi's visor has one problem: it's a passive scanning system and thus needs an external EM source to pick things up, meaning that he'll sometimes have to use a flashlight to scan in the EM photospectrum (what normal people call the visible spectrum)

[@zaltheral]

My theory: My thoughts on it is along the lines of this being a Dominion War era refit that didn't see fruition until after the war was over. We know there are several examples of this happening in the real world. Several types of ships, fighters, bombers, etc that had development started during World War II, but didn't quite see service in time to see combat. I think the need for such a refit comes from the loss of the USS Valiant, and Starfleet realizing it had no single ship that could stand up to a monster like that Dominion battleship. Since we already see in the tech manuals that development on such a large ship takes years, they decided to upfit an already proven, and large, spaceframe. We even see what could perhaps be some of the early refits towards the Galaxy-X with the USS Venture, since the Venture and the Ent-D refit both have the additional phaser strips on top of the warp engines. I would further conjecture that in the alternate timeline, the Enterprise D survived that timeline's Dominion War, but in the process was so badly damaged as to be mothballed instead of repaired, given material and personnel shortages during wartime. She was only saved from the scrap heap by a Riker with enough clout later on to have her repaired, and brought up to 'new' Galaxy class specifications in the process. Purely speculation to be sure, but it fits my head canon.

[@-Lindol-]

Dude, just so you know the E is definitely better looking than the D.

[@parrot998]

Lies

[@zuke1624]

I'm late to the party, but had to jump in here. The phaser canon is a kitbash of a phaser rifle. Also, the D already had a phaser strip on the pylons below the nacelles; so this increased it by two, not by four. Finally, shuttlebay 1 now opens into a giant bussard ramscoop. So enjoy that pilots!

[@mbutler41]

The pylon that holds the third nacelle (and most of the added apparatus) looks very similar to the pylon that holds the upper array on a Nebula class (not Benjamin Maxwell's Phoenix, but later versions). It looks like they just added a few more windows and retrofitted it to mold to the Enterprise Star-drive section. It's not guaranteed that this is the same pieces, but Curry definitely could have drawn inspiration from his previous design.

[@thegalli]

Great video Junkball, you've been working hard!

[@3RAN7ON]

Pretty bold of you to assume that's the nerdiest thing I will do today 😂

[@Ionizap]

The cannon under the saucer makes me think of the A-10 Warthog cannon. Interesting video.

[@1988fierogt]

my fav ship ... awesome video

[@DeathBYDesign666]

It occurred to me that we are exactly 25 years from where they left off in tng. It's safe to say that the Picard series is coming in at the exact right time from where we left off chronologically speaking. It's also probably safe to say we're going to see some upgrades to Not only the future tech but most likely the past as well. They can't just go back to regular cannon with all the real life upgrades from our time since then.

[@josephmontanaro2350]

I love the idea of 10 forward going from classy to some kind of dive bar because the cannon refit messed with the aesthetics and accommodations needed to be made to power it :D

[@Scripture-Man]

Wow, I love your own refit design at 3:41. I wish that had been the one in All Good Things. Actually, I wish they'd create a special edition version of All Good Things featuring the Enterprise E. All the older characters could play themselves now, it would be perfect!

[@kyleking284]

I had a model of this ship from Diamond Select Toys! It was EXCELLENT!! I couldn't stop playing with it!! I would separate the saucer fly that around for a while, then I would fly the star drive section around!! Just thought I share memory👍😄

[@kirishima638]

Ooh ponderous and tangental what-if scenarios!

[@CD-ek3iq]

I swear looking at it in pieces now, that 3rd engine mount looks just like the handle of the black 80s Laser Tag gun I had as a kid.

[@jacquesaubin4454]

I love watching it blast the Klingon ship!! Ate right through its shields.

[@ToonamiT0M]

I have a Playmates toy of the Enterprise D that transforms into the All Good Things Enterprise. The third nacelle and giant cannon slide out of the saucer. Several panels flip around to reveal new details. Even little fins flip out on the nacelle pylons. It's a really cool toy.

[@abrahamtheodore9359]

Thank you for the great video!

[@skysucker4251]

My dude, I love your videos! Keep 'em coming!

[@maverickdelta]

Correction! The original Enterprise-D already has a single phaser array per pylon (instead of the upgraded two), so only 10 weapons were added.

[@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit]

Such a good episode! Thanks so much!

[@gsxerwhite]

What a show! It started when I was in 6th grade and ended when I graduated high school. I was sad it had to end.

[@RelativelyBest]

I like your version, it makes a lot of sense as an upgraded Galaxy and looks nice. Though, I would go ahead and change the nacelle struts making them straighter and at an angle like on the Sovereign class - I could never bring myself to like the struts on the original. While I'm at it I would perhaps also raise them slightly so that the nacelles are level with the saucer section. Oh, and I would _totally_ keep the big Yamato-style cannon, because that's baller.

[@gregnevels8111]

This has always been my favorite incarnation of the Enterprise. I would love to have a model of it!

[@misnerll]

I know of 2 kit bashed parts. The phaser canons on either side of the bridge are from the Monogram BG Cylon Raider laser canons, and the bumps on top of the warp engines are from the 1/1400 ERTL Enterprise D kit top warp engine halves.

[@TPJ300]

You're my favorite KZbin channel! Great research, great footage, great jokes!

[@theluftwaffleeater8074]

I’m a huge Star Trek fan I’ve seen all Star Trek episodes and I have a ton of die cast models and I love this channel keep making vids

[@buggzybunny3540]

Do you happen to have the humbbuccer eppisode

[@0x0404]

Still have that toy that transforms between the two version. Great stuff.