Future of the World - Space Colonization and New Superpowers

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Neatling

Neatling

3 ай бұрын

In this video I combine my two favorite topics, alternate history and space. I delve into how the future of geopolitics may look, and how we in a speculative future may colonize our solar system.
Credit to 'StolenMadWolf' for creating the collection that several of the solar system flags in this video are based on: www.deviantart.com/stolenmadw...

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@PolarisStar5
@PolarisStar5 3 ай бұрын
You should make a series about an alternate future of space colonization, it would be pretty neat
@csimonasc
@csimonasc 3 ай бұрын
Like interstellar human civilization.
@Nathan-vx5ew
@Nathan-vx5ew 3 ай бұрын
definitly
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@JTMondal
@JTMondal 3 ай бұрын
Please do
@GustavoCarmona-ex3vj
@GustavoCarmona-ex3vj 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@isaacbourdeau3167
@isaacbourdeau3167 3 ай бұрын
I like this scenario. Not unreasonable but also optimistic
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 3 ай бұрын
Very optimistic. Nothing wrong with that tho
@isaacbourdeau3167
@isaacbourdeau3167 3 ай бұрын
@@IC3XR agreed
@user-hl7ds3er3d
@user-hl7ds3er3d 3 ай бұрын
Нет! Ужасно, как создатель думает, что Россия станет слабой, ее пропаганда со стороны европейцев, как обычно. 😢😠
@jonatand2045
@jonatand2045 2 ай бұрын
​@@isaacbourdeau3167 It lacks the takeover of artificial superintelligence in the near future, but humans are more fun.
@basileusbasil4041
@basileusbasil4041 2 ай бұрын
THE UNAGING solution? That's super sci-fy.
@pantheraerospace752
@pantheraerospace752 3 ай бұрын
Finally some optimism in this dark age Everywhere I go I see pessimistic predictions about the end of civilization but u really made my day! Here's to the future!
@TheNecropolis20
@TheNecropolis20 3 ай бұрын
by the 2200s much of the solar system will be colonized by humans from the planet earth
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 2 ай бұрын
Yeah “realism” is way too negative. We need some optimism or we are lost.
@magicalmagicmagician5223
@magicalmagicmagician5223 2 ай бұрын
​@@rustyshackleford234 realism is just people pretending that their depression actually have a point but in reality they're just pessimistic and depressed
@Fatbaddie24
@Fatbaddie24 2 ай бұрын
@@magicalmagicmagician5223Realism and Idealism is equally important in human society.
@bloodclaat
@bloodclaat 2 ай бұрын
@@Fatbaddie24 because they contradict each other
@KhAnubis
@KhAnubis 3 ай бұрын
As someone who’s also been obsessing over our future in space for the past few years, I like this, we seem to have converged on a lot of ideas (I especially like the idea of exploring a semi-post-scarcity society). I’d be interested to see how you think the Moon and Mars will look into the 23rd century, as I’ve imagined them as having different colonial territories and/or slowly breaking off into their own nations
@Neatling
@Neatling 3 ай бұрын
If I expand on this scenario at some point I may focus more on the various political entities throughout the solar system and how they're structured. As for what I actually think, I'm very uncertain, which is why I think this "alternate history" format works great, as I can just guess and make assumptions. In this scenario as of 2200 I image the political entities of the Moon are very closely tied to Earth. The United Nations has been restructured, veto rights are gone, and it actually has real power, functioning as a loose confederation akin to the European Union. The Lunar Council, now a unified federal republic, is a member of the United Nations just like the EU, China or North American Union. The Lunar Council is their means of resolving local disputes, and how all Moon colonies are represented at the UN. But political entities overlap, with Earth nations retaining the rights to use infrastructure on the moon to some capacity, as its how they colonize the solar system without being tied down by expensive Earth launches. So I think it would be a mix. By 2200 I think almost all decisions would be made locally on the moon through some framework like a Lunar Council, as well as smaller subdivisions, while Earth nations would keep some sort of loose ties to their Lunar settlements in order to maintain acces to their space infrastructure.
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 3 ай бұрын
I’d imagine it would be similar to European colonies in the Americas but without the natives and wouldn’t be looked back upon as horrific. Slowly these martians and lunar men will culturally become more and more different than the mother country that their colony is ruled by. Eventually they’ll secede and become solar system powers themselves. Heck, one might mirror the United States and become the most powerful and influential nation in the system.
@akigreus9424
@akigreus9424 3 ай бұрын
A few small gripes. 2200's Mars would be a "wet desert" in that there is enough water to run a small hydrosystem but no plants worth mentioning, and the water is toxic. Venus underutilized, cloud seeded algae farms would serve nicely to transfer nitrogen to Mars.
@ganieraorison6192
@ganieraorison6192 3 ай бұрын
Gotta agree, Venus is underappreciated especially as a 2nd home as it is technically a better option compared to mass. It's gravity is higher, it already has large amounts of nitrogen and CO2 which can be used for terraforming Venus and Mars at the same time.
@akigreus9424
@akigreus9424 3 ай бұрын
@@ganieraorison6192 Algae that floats in the nitrogen rich clouds and is harvested with trolley ships and compressed for nitrate rich nutrient bars and fed to martians and have them poop out good fertilizer is key to a interplanetary economy.
@ebonaparte3853
@ebonaparte3853 25 күн бұрын
@@akigreus9424Interesting…
@TheRavenLord1
@TheRavenLord1 3 ай бұрын
As a native of the Moon Titan, we don’t need humans here. We are fine without them present out here.
@jagdawgii929
@jagdawgii929 3 ай бұрын
You have oil tho? We comin
@TheRavenLord1
@TheRavenLord1 3 ай бұрын
@@jagdawgii929 then come and take it Terran
@matasstonkus3382
@matasstonkus3382 3 ай бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!
@spec214
@spec214 3 ай бұрын
No Xenos!!
@EldiniTheGenie
@EldiniTheGenie 2 ай бұрын
@@jagdawgii929it’s actually just methane and ethane in some liquid lakes. Still would be hella useful for fuel nonetheless
@Mapper_Space
@Mapper_Space 3 ай бұрын
You should turn this into a mapping series, with a video for every decade or so. I would love to see how each country grows and evolves.
@Marylandbrony
@Marylandbrony 3 ай бұрын
I might not agree with some details (Mainly some of the population stuff’s far future projections) or certain geopolitical developments (Russia remaining a major world power, The NAU not being a greater USA) but overall this is a reasonable head-cannon for the future.
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 3 ай бұрын
It's a speculative scenario thinking of the less sad things
@kenos911
@kenos911 3 ай бұрын
It’s certain that Russia will at least remain a decently strong force. the separation into multiple states of what we call Russia now is highly unlikely, every time there has been an attempt of doing so it has come back to a similar level of power and form
@THEBEEEANSS
@THEBEEEANSS 3 ай бұрын
@kenos911 there is a very good chance that Russia will have fewer than 100 million people by the end of the century. Current Russian power is merely a fading remnant of Soviet power.
@birb2330
@birb2330 3 ай бұрын
​@@kenos911 Always Weaker
@SnabbKassa
@SnabbKassa 3 ай бұрын
Russia is not a world power. It just thinks it is.
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 3 ай бұрын
Alternate Future history is awesome
@Alderite
@Alderite 3 ай бұрын
Honestly You need a Part 2 on this, Events happening between 2300's to 2500's. and what possible new nations might occur
@svenandersen
@svenandersen 3 ай бұрын
As Indonesian i love how you put Indonesia as top 5 world power out of nowhere and didn't bother to explain it unlike another 4 countryside
@Smilemonster1912
@Smilemonster1912 3 ай бұрын
In context of space travel it should have been japan.
@Neatling
@Neatling 3 ай бұрын
The scope of the video just grew and grew, the flickering effects and solar system map in particular, took a lot of work. So at some point I just decided to finish the video. I do regret not including it though, only would've taken a couple more hours. As for the explanation, though, it's a country with a lot of potential. Southeast Asia broadly is growing rapidly. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple notable powers arise there in the coming century.
@_martian101
@_martian101 3 ай бұрын
@@Smilemonster1912 japan won't be very relevant in the future, they have experience but they're losing power rapidly, paved the way for a booming countries like indonesia to replace them, at this point the future scenario of indonesia become one of major space powers in the future become very likely to happen.
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 2 ай бұрын
@@_martian101 Vietnam is promising too. Maybe it’ll democratize and more countries would invest into it. It’s already an ally with the U.S., maybe they’ll pressure them out of communism?
@_martian101
@_martian101 2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford234 Many southeast Asian countries are promising, but Indonesia will be the one that joining 5 biggest economy list in the future, so Indonesia is more likely to have large scale space industry, just like 5 biggest economy countries today, plus Indonesia is a neutral country and have close relations to all space powers which greatly help them to build their own space industry, especially China that potentially will give Indonesia a significant amount of technological transfer
@Terranallias18
@Terranallias18 3 ай бұрын
I like how Indonesia is considered as a viable space colonial power but not Russia. It makes sense but it's pretty hilarious.
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 3 ай бұрын
Like the population growth and economic growth as well as very suitable location for launching space ships makes a lot of sense
@alganis3339
@alganis3339 3 ай бұрын
He explained it quite well in the video. There is a big chance of a power struggle if Putin dies. And like he said if there is in this case a big chance for China to try to influence the results and in this case Russia will become less relevant on it's own but will be part of the Chinese sphere of influence.
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 3 ай бұрын
Russia: the Portugal of Space
@Terranallias18
@Terranallias18 3 ай бұрын
@@k.umquat8604 Insult to Portugal
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 3 ай бұрын
@@Terranallias18 I meant the Portuguese Empire, not modern day Portugal
@Ellhulto
@Ellhulto 3 ай бұрын
Starship, Stellaris music and just space in general! This is an awesome video!
@Mapper_Space
@Mapper_Space 3 ай бұрын
For the North America country, a better flag would be something along the lines of a horizontal tricolor of a red stripe on top, a blue stripe in the middle, and a green stripe on the bottom.
@greenweed3253
@greenweed3253 3 ай бұрын
and three stars in the middle
@giovannibini6809
@giovannibini6809 Ай бұрын
if it is based on the EU model why not use a similar flag with different colors? White flag with red, blu and green stars
@oldylad
@oldylad 7 күн бұрын
@@giovannibini6809that’s more viable but not a great looking flag. Considering the US would very likely dominate the union a flag incorporating the colors of all 3 with 3 stripes and stars representing the states (or whatever they become) of each nation is most likely, as each nation does have a federal government and it’s likely that this union would also follow an American style republic
@IC3XR
@IC3XR 3 ай бұрын
Definitely many countries you overestimate or underestimate, and the predictions overall are iffy at best. Though it is cool to see this kind of content.
@greenweed3253
@greenweed3253 3 ай бұрын
which countries did he overestimate?
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 3 ай бұрын
I think he may have overestimated China and Russia. Though with the anti-aging stuff solves their largest problem, population collapse. But who knows if we’d actually invent that. He may have just used it to keep Russia and China in the story which I’m all for. The U.S. needs some enemies to compete against to actually achieve stuff nowadays lmao
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford234 US does have a penchant for inventing enemies when it runs out of them. So I wouldn't be too worried about that.
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 2 ай бұрын
@@death_parade we have to or else we’ll start hating each other lmao
@PaulZyCZ
@PaulZyCZ 2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford234 anti-aging is common futurism trope, but I wouldn't count on that just yet. Maybe I will live to see that, maybe it won't work for my generation, maybe there are other restrictions, maybe it won't come for several more centuries, maybe Alien AI invades... lot of unknowns.
@alcyoncalinner2005
@alcyoncalinner2005 3 ай бұрын
I'm writing a sci-fi universe called "Ikanis Universe" with a friend and I really liked the way you treated this alternate future. Right now I am in the process of researching futurology in numerous places, in addition to reading books on the subject. Also my search is on the internet, looking for pages on this topic, and watching videos like these as a way to base myself on the data given here to create the future of the science fiction universe that my friend and I are creating, it seems. As for the idea presented here, I have a very similar vision about the future of today in 200 years. I have seen the previous parts of this video and they are very good, I rely on a part of it for my science fiction universe as well as other sources where I look for guidance and inspiration for it. Thank you very much and good video :D
@tom_skip3523
@tom_skip3523 3 ай бұрын
I am also writing a book with the same topic. Does the Ikanis Universe depict a realistic approach of mankind in the future?
@alcyoncalinner2005
@alcyoncalinner2005 3 ай бұрын
​@@tom_skip3523 My friend and I who are working on the project try to be as realistic as possible. Although in reality this universe is utopian science fiction in some aspects, like Star Trek, not in all but in some, such as showing that humanity and the Earth evolved to be a better civilization in the centuries to come. But it's also about dystopian and dark themes. There are several things that I could consider realistic to the point of being hard science fiction, such as the space battles that we make realistic. While in other things there are aspects of this that could be considered speculative and fantastic, because there are quite a few exotic concepts like parallel universes and alternative timelines, or beings of great cosmic powers. The Ikanis Universe is divided into three parallel realities called Nuclei: N1, N1.1 and N2, the main realities, although there are 7 in total, and other multiverses, within a Multiverse called "The Registry" by a brane hypercomputer created by a type six civilization that records numerous past, present and even future events from across the multiverse. By the way, the name of the universe "Ikanis" comes from the name of the protagonist, "Ikanis Calinner", a human-like alien woman, artificially created in a laboratory as a project of an alien species also human-like, called the Sanssahar. If you are interested in knowing more about this universe, keep contacting me, thank you. And I have a blog, on the blogger platform where we publish the stories of this universe and others of our authorship, you can find the link in the links on my KZbin channel. By the way, my native language is not English, it is Spanish, the blog is in Spanish, but right now I am trying to translate our stories into English so that more people can read them. I'm also learning English. By the way, now I ask, what is your universe about? Greetings.
@tom_skip3523
@tom_skip3523 3 ай бұрын
@@alcyoncalinner2005 That sounds great! Congratulations on getting this far already. I love sci fi utopias and dystopias. Keep up the good work sounds very interesting. Am German btw, nice to meet you :) About my story. I'm planning a sci fi story in several parts. At the time of the prequel we are in the 23rd century. Humanity, which has evolved more and more into a united species and has already colonized many planets and moons in the solar system with a lot of trade between the colonies and Earth. A dyson sphere is currently being built, but it is far from finished. In any case, humanity is starting a project to spread humanity throughout the galaxy. :) So much for the backstory, don't want to give too much away. The real story is about a girl born in a colony as part of the project. There is a really dystopian ending, at least for the 1st part. So much for that :D I'm currently doing a lot of research and philosophizing. Long time project.
@alcyoncalinner2005
@alcyoncalinner2005 3 ай бұрын
@@tom_skip3523 Thank you very much, really what motivates us the most is seeing that other people like what we write. I'm from Mexico, great pleasure too. Your story is interesting, it seems that humanity reached a class II civilization quite quickly by already having a Dyson sphere under construction around the Sun. It seems that humanity is in a golden age. Something I wonder about is that there are other alien species, in addition to this galactic colonization project. I understand, I don't want to reveal too much of my backstory either. And you already have a character, that girl born in space. I would love to read about the universe. Right now the Ikanis Universe of me and my friend have started writing the first book, we plan to send it to a publisher, and we are also trying to find a way to copyright our writings since it is something very important. In short, these types of projects require a lot of patience, research and philosophizing as you indicate. Greetings :D
@tom_skip3523
@tom_skip3523 3 ай бұрын
@@alcyoncalinner2005 Exactly :) Have a good day and weeks and months :D
@erickromero5638
@erickromero5638 3 ай бұрын
DAMN, what a good video man! Love all of it, mainly the asthethics looks sooo coool man, nice work!
@ALIHQG
@ALIHQG 3 ай бұрын
I wish this was longer, amazing vid!!
@nexustheninja1927
@nexustheninja1927 3 ай бұрын
You just perfectly combined my two favorite subject matters! Bravo, you have definately earnt my sub for as much as that is worth lmao.
@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 3 ай бұрын
Curing of anit aging would be nice Not immortal but able to still live young and be able to work and enjoy life and not be force to retire be nice.
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 3 ай бұрын
Or at least to slow the degradation of our genes with age
@comradecapybara
@comradecapybara 3 ай бұрын
entropy forbids immortality but it seems an end of aging, or at least indefinite lifespans is very plausible this century.
@sauravgupta8819
@sauravgupta8819 3 ай бұрын
love the quality of your content
@salutic.7544
@salutic.7544 3 ай бұрын
Pretty much the expanse lmao. I can visualize the scenario but I also feel other externalities will come into play that either heavily hinder the timeline of space colonization or possibly accelerate it.
@kongdragon4364
@kongdragon4364 3 ай бұрын
I new exactly when that MCRN flag was used
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
He specifically said no OPA type BS will form.
@johnlivelys
@johnlivelys 3 ай бұрын
Very good video would love to see more content related to these parameters possibly exploring the individual history of each colony
@debott4538
@debott4538 3 ай бұрын
I think this is somewhat of a best case scenario and I'm 100% here for it. :)
@oldylad
@oldylad 7 күн бұрын
This is NOT the best case. This is an optimistic view, but it isn’t the best case by a long shot
@caesarshotdogchampion8738
@caesarshotdogchampion8738 3 ай бұрын
You put music from Stellaris! Great video as always
@aquilae1670
@aquilae1670 2 ай бұрын
This is genius. Please make a series on this!
@da_plug13
@da_plug13 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the US uniting with Mexico is always done in scifi scenarios. I think a LatAm union that incorporates Mexico is more realistic. Maybe there would be a conflict over trade between the US and LatAm when Mexico joins them. I think a cultural union of the anglo states (US, UK, Canada, Australia, and NZ) makes more sense for the US too
@Nuaheal
@Nuaheal 3 ай бұрын
A union of the Hispanic world or the Iberian-speaking countries is more realistic than Latin America, In Spanish-speaking countries a movement is starting that could be translated as "Hispanism" Which can be very strong if it continues to expand, thanks to the internet this ideology could easily enter politics, It is literally creating a Spanish empire 2.0, but in phases that would last decades, Milei won the presidency due to the corruption of the corrupt Argentine governments and his popularity on the internet, Hispanism, being a decentralized ideology, So it can be adapted to communism, protectionism, ancap, etc.
@oldylad
@oldylad 7 күн бұрын
I disagree. You’re thinking culturally and not economically, politically, geographically, diplomatically, etc etc. Mexico and the US are already melding culturally. The “immigrant crisis” isn’t being overblown, most states along the border have a substantial Mexican population, and the same will happen as he said in the video in reverse to Mexico as they stabilize. There’s also the issue of LatAms instability and Americas already strong position, if Mexico had to choose today they’d choose the US and it isn’t odd for them to do the same in future. Maybe a LATNAU would form between Mexico, the Central Americans and the Caribbean states that may then join a NAU, but I think the NAU is inevitable in some form, especially as cultural divides weaken
@da_plug13
@da_plug13 6 күн бұрын
@oldylad you make a fair, if uncomfortable point. I agree that the current immigration crisis could completely change the cultural fabric of the US, if it hasn't started already. However, with the rise of strict anti immigration politicians and rhetoric, it's not impossible to think that the trend could be halted or even reversed with the original cultural ties being restored. Birth rates are also collapsing throughout Latin America and the Hispanic population in America. While it still might be more realistic for a north american union, I was perhaps yearning for something different. An alternate future where cultural norms and values don't decline.
@codysparks1454
@codysparks1454 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me a lot of The Expanse, which I think is the most accurate depiction of what our future could look like. Great job!
@rufustrukhin3894
@rufustrukhin3894 3 ай бұрын
Really liked this scenario. You are one of the only creators I know who competently uses AI generated images, both fittingly and tastefully. This in combination with your beautiful maps which are a combinations of realistic and yet beautiful borders make for some of the best contents on the site. TL;DR: Great vid, dawg. Hello from Sweden.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a similar scenario about the future but in a world where nuclear apocalypse happens and civilization survives in bunkers
@mohit5496
@mohit5496 7 күн бұрын
Gave me goosebumps and hope for future. Nice video
@Maxeh
@Maxeh 3 ай бұрын
And it all changed when Humanity activated the Charon relay.
@pantheraerospace752
@pantheraerospace752 3 ай бұрын
Mass Effect reference
@sergimaldonadogarcia7651
@sergimaldonadogarcia7651 3 ай бұрын
It was an amazing, difficult but realistic scenario, I really love it, it's even perfect for a book. But I have one tiny question, is the anti-aging treatment you mention based on the one explained in the Red Mars book saga?
@Neatling
@Neatling 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's actually just based on real world efforts which I find interesting, and imagine could lead to an eventual complete curing of ageing. From what I can gather scientists have successfully not just prevented, but also reversed ageing in mice through gene therapy. So I don't think it's that big a leap to say we may do the same in humans this century. Perhaps first in our pets, so we can have them with us for longer. Then the ultra wealthy will have acces to it, and then eventually the general population. In this scenario specifically I imagine wealthy ageing societies like Europe, Japan, China and North America offer the treatment either freely or cheaply through government subsidies to their populations, in order to avoid the worst affects of collapsing birth rates. But in poorer countries it would probably be more difficult to get acces to, some countries might even restrict the acces to anti ageing medication because their populations are growing too much.
@alexander-5848
@alexander-5848 3 ай бұрын
​@@Neatlingone of the only things I done really agree with is the anti aging medication, I think that's a bit too far fetched for the next 100-200 years. It is technically possible though.
@Bezimienny1598
@Bezimienny1598 3 ай бұрын
​@@NeatlingAre you sure you've seen studies where they've managed to prevent aging in a mouse? I've definitely seen the studies about reversing age, they are fascinating and 100% legit but haven't heard of anyone PREVENTING aging in mice.
@Bezimienny1598
@Bezimienny1598 3 ай бұрын
​@@alexander-5848The biggest hurdle right now in Aging science is the astronomical amount of data needed to predict protein folding and the mechanisms involved in the process of aging. Our current systems are incapable of managing this and we're still collecting the neccesary data but AI will 100% become advanced enough in as little as a decade of time. After that, it's basically just collecting data and letting the AI do its thing with enough compute. The AI will predict new, as of yet unknown proteins which will result in a LOT of new medications and let us better understand how proteins behave in our bodies. Preventing aging altogether is, I agree here, at least a century away but with AI spearheading the number crunching which we desperately need, we'll extend our lifetimes by decades if not a century. That means that we'll keep extending our lives as long as it's needed for proper gene editing to be perfected and let us finally cure aging. This is already starting, really. Over the last few years, thousands(if I remember correctly) of new biomed companies have been opening up with their mission being curing aging or at least extending life. As of yet, it's only really billionaires funding these in hopes of extending their lives but it should start picking up steam once research gets going.
@ethanlackey8048
@ethanlackey8048 3 ай бұрын
This has lead to a future I did not think about, a split between people living in the void or on lighter worlds traveling wherever while people from heavy worlds are for all intents and purposes largely trapped.
@kiyannabily4090
@kiyannabily4090 2 ай бұрын
I liked this and found that the ideas you presented are the same ideas that I have when I think into the future of our civilization and space colonization
@SolarisSaber
@SolarisSaber 3 ай бұрын
This is essentially The Expanse lore
@Geo-Global-oz5kl
@Geo-Global-oz5kl Ай бұрын
But without the United planet trope.
@nakedbean6649
@nakedbean6649 5 күн бұрын
United trope is just lazy
@NChatterjee
@NChatterjee 3 ай бұрын
Definitely a truly quality content.
@trueluscao
@trueluscao 3 ай бұрын
i love it when you do videos like this!
@matheusexpedito4577
@matheusexpedito4577 3 ай бұрын
No countries, only *UNIFIED HUMAN EMPIRE*
@mrnoob2514
@mrnoob2514 3 ай бұрын
Impossible tbh.
@boiled_fish_with_rice
@boiled_fish_with_rice 3 ай бұрын
Homo sapien ape alliance
@8.4.8.2
@8.4.8.2 3 ай бұрын
Yes but maybe in 500 years
@mrnoob2514
@mrnoob2514 3 ай бұрын
@@8.4.8.2 nope, would take about 1 millenia, a Unified human empire is unrealistic.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
No thanks. We are not interested.
@juanmendez3290
@juanmendez3290 3 ай бұрын
I really love this series
@Braweusz
@Braweusz 3 ай бұрын
Hi Neatling! I don't know if you will notice my comment, but some time ago I came across an article about the fact that the Anglo-Saxons had a colony in the Crimea which was called New England, they founded it supposedly after the Norman conquest of England in 1066, there are some sources out there that confirm this but there is no exact certainty. I would like to ask you, will there be a video with an alternative history at your place as if this would actually happen? I am curious about your opinion, greetings!
@goranohlsson9235
@goranohlsson9235 3 ай бұрын
Had been fun if you made scenario like this video, but with the orion-drive as a foundation to faster (mayby interstellar) space travel. Amazing video btw ; )
@goranohlsson9235
@goranohlsson9235 3 ай бұрын
Edit, spelling
@ramicollo
@ramicollo 2 ай бұрын
That was a fun & interesting watch, well done 👍
@foxival5150
@foxival5150 3 ай бұрын
This Video is Awesome, it would be Nice if there would some more Videos coming About this Topic
@Numba003
@Numba003 3 ай бұрын
These future solar system colonization thoughts are so much fun to listen to. Thank you for this. I wonder if we'll manage to do something comparable. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@andreidogaru3733
@andreidogaru3733 3 ай бұрын
To say that no interstellar missions have been attempted by the 2200s is a gross underestimation of the future.
@debott4538
@debott4538 3 ай бұрын
They might have been attempted, but would be hardly relevant to this scneario, would they?
@PaulZyCZ
@PaulZyCZ 2 ай бұрын
We may have means to maybe send a probe to Alpha Centauri (with big price tag), but until fusion drive works as advertised I wouldn't bet on anything bigger going there. A colony needs to have 2000 people at the very least minimum, unless we send an AI ship and androids act as parents for the vat babies (artificial womb, 3D bio-printer). Even that wouldn't change the politics, besides having a colony somewhere out there.
@giovannibini6809
@giovannibini6809 Ай бұрын
it took 50+ years just to go back to the moon
@oldylad
@oldylad 7 күн бұрын
@@PaulZyCZthe Alcubierre drive and fusion power aren’t as far off as you seem to believe. Recently a fusion research lab achieved fusion at around 1/3 gross power gain, only problem is the power waste to get there. The Alcubierre drive also has seen some development with the power required dropping substantially to the point that a. Fusion reactor is all that’s needed to utilize it theoretically, no testing has occurred yet. Quantum computing is seeing a lot of progress as well to guide and control a faster than light ship. It’s all happening, it may take 50 years but it will happen
@oldylad
@oldylad 7 күн бұрын
@@giovannibini6809because the moon is a big rock that we’ve already been to. We also have rovers going back there to study whatever we need. The only reason to go back would be to mine or colonize it, and we haven’t had the tech for that until recently
@warrenharris4467
@warrenharris4467 3 ай бұрын
Hey, what if Earth becomes just one big country?.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
Not gonna happen. Ever. Nope. Never. We Indians won't allow it. We've had enough of globalists killing our culture.
@HWQFish
@HWQFish 2 ай бұрын
That is communism end goal, fyi. Yet it is seen as evil.
@themattsterdn1824
@themattsterdn1824 3 ай бұрын
What software do you use to make your maps on earth?
@Neatling
@Neatling 3 ай бұрын
I use Photoshop for all my maps
@jellemaarten2145
@jellemaarten2145 3 ай бұрын
This is super entertaining!
@Stargaze_youtube
@Stargaze_youtube 3 ай бұрын
Interesting and rich video. Thank you!
@WyrmrestAccord
@WyrmrestAccord 2 ай бұрын
Stelaris music on the background is just on point.
@sabastianclements5371
@sabastianclements5371 3 ай бұрын
Loved this
@alexdesousa7966
@alexdesousa7966 3 ай бұрын
Excellent work! Congratulations 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏 this is a pretty neat and well researched video. I've shared it a lot.
@ss-oq9pc
@ss-oq9pc 3 ай бұрын
Cool video. Consider doing an alternate future on what if the "Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (the AMOC)" collapsed. Like in the Day After Tomorrow movie but realistic and gradual.
@vessel4475
@vessel4475 3 ай бұрын
Seriously, I really like how you go in-depth with the future state of Earth politics; particularly with how the United States eventually subsumes the provinces of Canada and the states of Mexico (Granted, I do think Greenland would eventually become another state in the union given how much it resents the Netherlands for not paying attention to its needs and it'd probably be taken care of by the US due to vested interests in the Arctic). I think that with the onset of anti-aging medicines and the rise of personalized medicines (thanks to the protein folding problem being solved by AI) and CRISPR, it's not too far off to suggest that personal gene-editing of the human race by choice is out of the picture. Certain attributes to make selected individuals be more suited for long voyage space missions around the solar system and even beyond into interstellar exploration missions. In any case, I hope this becomes a series!
@omrb132
@omrb132 3 ай бұрын
Sad to born in this time
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 2 ай бұрын
Heck, the U.S. has offered to buy Greenland from Denmark recently but the Danes refused. Maybe someday it’ll be ours…
@vessel4475
@vessel4475 2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford234 Well, given the proximity to the US and that Greenland has been looking to be independent from Denmark for a while because they've felt neglected makes it seem like they're looking for a new country to act on its behalf and provide resources for them. Greenland's next parliamentary election is coming next year so I think it's a fair shot to assume that they'll try to vote for independence by then.
@mommoffa
@mommoffa 19 күн бұрын
@@vessel4475 Do you really know anything about local Greenlandic politics? They are very much against becoming a part of the US, they want more autonomy from Denmark yes (not the Netherlands, as you first said in your comment), but they also do know they do not have a large enough population to serve themselves with their current local economy, security and infrastructure and so would much rather continue being part of Denmark. You sound clueless
@vessel4475
@vessel4475 19 күн бұрын
@@mommoffa they are going to vote out of being part of Denmark because of how little Denmark is taking a part in their nation’s affairs, and both Canada and the US are much closer to provide support from them than Denmark would. This is literally in the far future, you just sound like a dolt that thinks they’re smarter than they really are.
@ak-gi3eu
@ak-gi3eu 2 ай бұрын
like between mars and earth its takes 5-20 min .how do we communicate faster with further moons and planets.can there be l2,l3,l4,l5 or any in between .i m no scientist .but just asking
@parthasarathyvenkatadri
@parthasarathyvenkatadri 3 ай бұрын
Does the delta v also take into account the getting back part ..
@virginlungs420x
@virginlungs420x 3 ай бұрын
would love to see you do a video on speculative WW3. I can’t imagine it’ll be as optimistic as this one tho😭
@HollowSleep
@HollowSleep 3 ай бұрын
This was pretty cool.
@benyseus6325
@benyseus6325 3 ай бұрын
No United Earth or Federation :(
@vinniepeterss
@vinniepeterss 3 ай бұрын
love it🎉
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 ай бұрын
Really nice and creative scenario 👍
@SnowuhsFrostbite
@SnowuhsFrostbite Ай бұрын
im begging you, please expand this!! it sounds so cool :D
@neoelementiathedanknight3564
@neoelementiathedanknight3564 3 ай бұрын
Good video, but this is only assuming the world doesn't get crazier than it currently is and that the status quo is more or less maintained. Could you do a video where the current earth crisis runs its course and shakes up the world order and dedollarization and all that, and then space travel takes off.
@Masquerola
@Masquerola 2 ай бұрын
what's the song at 0:40?
@normanmendez636
@normanmendez636 3 ай бұрын
Is that the Mars flag from The Expanse? 14:32
@Neatling
@Neatling 3 ай бұрын
It is!
@ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031
@ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 Ай бұрын
It seems quite optimistic. I hope things move in that direction.
@vinniepeterss
@vinniepeterss 3 ай бұрын
keep this topic going
@althereq3656
@althereq3656 2 ай бұрын
Cool video but why are the flags so random?
@orfeas8
@orfeas8 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this very much! Tell us more on this space lore like what new sciences and technologies would be invented, breakthroughs on them and integration of AI/robots in all this. Also what new events would happen in the universe (info on black holes, nebulae. maybe death of a star etc)? I believe humans in some planets close to Earth's atmosphere like Titan and Europa would be genetically modified to have no problem living without special suits.
@catsyrup5455
@catsyrup5455 3 ай бұрын
I like these videos
@shzarmai
@shzarmai Ай бұрын
I hope Middle Eastern, African and South American Countries get to establish their own Space Colonies in the future
@charlieross6586
@charlieross6586 3 ай бұрын
If I may ask where did you get the idea that we would develop technology that would reverse and prevent aging, and how long would the average human live in this future world.
@zealuxa6989
@zealuxa6989 3 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of this will happen on a timeline quicker than we would think.
@digitaldud3664
@digitaldud3664 3 ай бұрын
Why? Go into more detail please
@TheKBC14
@TheKBC14 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Why? Because of singularity. Need a better why? Whatever religion was going on about.
@icarus387
@icarus387 3 ай бұрын
Private space companies in the future will play a important role in space expansion. While space agencies lead the way in space exploration, they can be hampered by bureaucracy and political setback. I feel like private space companies have an advantage with profit motive incentives like orbital launches from SpaceX and alike. One day, private space companies will send interplanetary payloads to other planets Like SpaceX is attempting to do with Mars and other companies like Rocket lab are planning to send a payload to Venus to study Venus's atmosphere with their own privately built rockets.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
@@digitaldud3664 Because exponential growth is what we are undergoing right now and we humans are the best when it comes to underestimating/not understanding the nature of exponential growth.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
@@icarus387 Indeed, the nature of space exploration in the future will shift from government space agency centric to private merchant centric combined with governments shifting focus to space security through space forces, rather than doing the space missions themselves.
@redsharkblueshark1878
@redsharkblueshark1878 3 ай бұрын
I like the idea that each of the main planets is like its own region, and the colonies on their moons.
@antaryjczyk
@antaryjczyk 3 ай бұрын
Soooooooooooo....basically we have a plot of "The Expanse"....highly recommend it...one of the best sci-fi shows ever
@superkartoffel7479
@superkartoffel7479 3 ай бұрын
Ok so this was pretty neat but what about going beyond our home system? Would be intersting to see how a civilization tries to keep together when even the speed of light is too slow to reasonably communicate between the stars.
@basileusbasil4041
@basileusbasil4041 2 ай бұрын
Uhhh what's up with the unaging thing?
@darknessincarnate138
@darknessincarnate138 8 күн бұрын
This makes wanna live more even if my life isn't that good just to see something like this happen would be great
@Clayvalue
@Clayvalue Ай бұрын
I friggen love the classic analytical green matrix’s
@Quantum_64
@Quantum_64 2 ай бұрын
Bro hit us with the Gundam Newtype Theory
@kayseek1248
@kayseek1248 3 ай бұрын
Where does Latin America fit into this?
@Illuminat-ve5ue
@Illuminat-ve5ue 2 ай бұрын
You should make a video also about the far future, in which humanity is at the brink of exhausting resources in the solar system, like maybe in 10 thousand years or so
@josephthedragon1
@josephthedragon1 3 ай бұрын
Hey Neatling, why didn’t you focus on Venus or Mercury? Was it because it was irrelevant? Or was it because humans wouldn’t be able to colonize it?
@alfiedefreitas5494
@alfiedefreitas5494 3 ай бұрын
Plese make this into a more comprehensive series pleasse
@leveluplegends123
@leveluplegends123 3 ай бұрын
MAKE A PART 2
@exploman6382
@exploman6382 3 ай бұрын
Tbh that feels a lot like the future of the expanse
@Carl_ATHF
@Carl_ATHF 3 ай бұрын
10:37 Belarus is firmly allied with Russia for centuries to come, this is a weird part of the video lol
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 3 ай бұрын
Yeah no, it can be said about their leader Alexander Lukashenko but from what the population has been demanding for few years now i certainly doubt that if they saw an opportunity they wouldn't go for it to be independant
@hazb8026
@hazb8026 Ай бұрын
Lol what? What alliance in history has lasted for centuries? Let alone in a deeply poverty stricken and politically unstable country like Belarus
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Ай бұрын
@@hazb8026 Portugal
@hazb8026
@hazb8026 Ай бұрын
@@KiraiKatsuji Portugal isn't an alliance. It's a country. You mean with the UK. But the UK and Portugal have multiple common interests like balancing Spain/Ireland. Meanwhile Belarus actively has it's national interest worked against by Russia
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Ай бұрын
@@hazb8026 Portugal is an alliance of empty land and a big coastline, but in seriousness yes i meant Portugal and England/UK as you asked which alliance in history lasted centuries so i gave you portugal and it also is politically unstable for a long time and poor
@SnickSanchez
@SnickSanchez 27 күн бұрын
I think it would be interesting to consider the possibilities of genetic engineering in future scenarios like this. It could be possible to engineer humans to assume a ton of different forms and be physically fit for a multitude of different environments. Challenges like radiation and microgravity could be overcome by just tweaking ourselves to be able to tolerate them.
@PaulZyCZ
@PaulZyCZ 2 ай бұрын
2:00 - Don't forget more advanced launching systems. Some cargos can "yeet" in space at 1000 G, such as using orbital cannon or Spinlaunch. There's ongoing research towards the orbital elevator. Using active support (think bouncing castle, but with molten iron instead of air) it's possible to build other launching megastructures. Orbital ring seems like the best 1960's science approach towards daily commute to LEO or even evacuating Earth if it comes to that (same colony ships as A.C.Clarke envisioned). It may turn out the Orbital ring is easier to build than Elevator, although politics may play against it. There are also other conceptual ways to get in space, which often seem like UFO: For example there's induction-based engine NASA is already testing in satelites, but like atmospheric ion engines it may require serious advances in superconductor and material engineering. More down-to earth approach is using laser instead of the oxidizer. If I remember right, the proposal claimed instead 90 % reduction of the rocket mass. So a ship like Starship would deliver kilotons of cargo in one go or instead of 500 $/kg it would be 50 $/kg. Want a dirt cheap electricity from space? See Mars Valineris up close at Christmas? Move to Epsilon Eridani, after spending few decades in cryo and never look back, once the new optimized fusion starliner launches? We are so close yet so far, but it's possible.
@NickWrightDataYT
@NickWrightDataYT 3 ай бұрын
Comparing Pluto to Antarctica in terms of how we only quasi-"settled" it is genius. Absolutely going to be true.
@Ricardo-lb4so
@Ricardo-lb4so 3 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis and scenery building. In a previous prospective exercise I came to the same conclussions. Setting up space exploration infrastructure off Earth is essential in any expansion though the solar system. I hope the Chinese prove successful in their plans to establishing a lunar base by 2040. By the way, when it comes to forming a sustainable alternate habitat I would choose Europa instead of mars.
@hexapodc.1973
@hexapodc.1973 3 ай бұрын
I’ve seen plans for habitats on Venus involving either big ass towers with habitats on the very top or airships that float in the atmosphere, just cuz there’s a point in the atmosphere of Venus where both pressure and temperature are the same as earth and sulfuric acid doesn’t reach up to. I feel like Venus would have populations like maybe not quite as high as mars but at least comparable
@trli7117
@trli7117 Ай бұрын
You missed the Sun Corridor megalopolis on your North America map. It runs from northern Arizona down into Mexico at Nogales.
@Cheur
@Cheur 3 ай бұрын
You should do a part 2 maybe about the future minor powers?
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 2 ай бұрын
Space Mongolia like in subnautica!
@Sir_Lilac
@Sir_Lilac 3 ай бұрын
May seem an unrelated question but what happens to Petroleum fuel? Do the Great Powers simply just move away from petrol based fuel? Does the Middle East undergo a period of instability?
@nukl3argam3r38
@nukl3argam3r38 3 ай бұрын
Why need Petroleum in Space?
@Sir_Lilac
@Sir_Lilac 3 ай бұрын
@@nukl3argam3r38 well yea but what about those on Earth?
@nukl3argam3r38
@nukl3argam3r38 3 ай бұрын
@@Sir_Lilac I think you Mean the Oil & Gas Industry. I Guess it'll be like any other Renewables: Once it Runs out and/ or a Cheaper Alternative Appears (Space Solar Power, Nuclear Fusion, ect...) the Entire Industry will just wither away. But don't ask be because I'm not an expert in this Field.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
@@nukl3argam3r38 People always fail to consider how important the Petrochemical industry is in all this Petrol doom talk. Fossil fuels might be on their way out, but fossil chemicals certainly are not.
@iamalwaysthere2462
@iamalwaysthere2462 Ай бұрын
I think NZ and Australia definitely will have more of an impact irl than what was theorised in this video
@nukl3argam3r38
@nukl3argam3r38 3 ай бұрын
Really Good! Though, I'd like to Point out (in my Opinion) a Flaw in your Final note: 1. Assuming Good Automation with AGI in the Future, as well as Semi-Equal Distribution of Resources, a kind of FALSC (Fully Automated Luxury Space Communism) Society would Develop. I'm also Assuming that Good Technology would allow us to Extract and Use the Resources of Any Patch of Space Rock Larger than a City Block. With AGI(and Potentially ASI) we could Relatively Rapidly Develop Advanced Technologies like Biological Immortality, Quick ISRU and small- Scale Self-Sufficiency, Cybernetic Augmentations, Digital Consciousness Uploading, Comfortable Space Habitats, ect... Such a Society would see Rapid Growth in Colonies for the Simple Reason that there are lots of Resources, we have the Technology to Efficiently Extract and use them and Everyone in the Colony has the Material interest to do so. Whilst Earth would still be a Paradise where we Evolved, many wouldn't need it anymore. Some (Digital Consciousnesses) would Probably Actually find it more Comfortable to Live inside some Icy Asteroid where they Could mine the "Ice" for Nuclear Fusion Energy and Run their Computers at much Lower and More Efficient Temperatures. If such is the Case, Places like the Moon and Ceres would become Megalopolises, Constructing O'Neill Cylinders and other Megastructures. Additionally, Utilizing Self- Replicating Robots, it would be Relatively Easy to Build a Dyson Swarm, giving Access to Virtually Limitless Energy and Destructive Potential (1). Furthermore, even if such a Megastructure is Hard or Impossible, Nuclear Fusion, with Deuterium or other Fuel mined from Space "Ice", Energy would also be Trivially Cheap, giving Access to Expanse-Style Propulsion. Now, given the Picture of a Virtual(ly) Utopian Space Civilization with Limitless Energy, Easy Ability to Self-Replicate and Everyone having the Material interest to mine Space, what do you think will happen? Will we stay Content with our reach and Stay Mostly Around Earth, or will we see Rapid Resource Extraction and Resource Utilization of the Bodys in our Solar System? I Personally think that the Latter Option is more Realistic. Space Colonies would have next to no Limit on their Expansion, while Civilization on Earth is Limited by Gravity, Surface Area and the Biosphere. Space Colonies could Upload themselves to Digital Utopias or Build O'Neill Cylinders with Earth-Like Conditions, whilst Earthbound Countries have to be Careful to not Disrupt the Ecosystem too much. Finally, Megastructures like Magnetically Levitating Orbital Rings (2), Launch Loops (3), Space Tethers (4) and Space Elevators (5) would make Travel from Earth to Space and Around the Solar System Fast and Dirt Cheap. In Summary, I believe that once we have Self-Sufficient Space Colonies, AGI and good Tech, things will move Relatively Quick. Orbital rings allowing Literal Trains into Space, a Lunar Megalopolis, O'Neill Cylinders at the L4 and L5 Lagrange Point, Rapidly Expanding Outer Solar System Colonies, Mind Uploading, ect... Our Future among the Stars will be Extremely Bright, Grand, Huge and Certainly Not Centered around Earth after more than 1000 Years or so.(6) Sources: (1):kzbin.info/www/bejne/poGXZXiGd7KVbqM (2): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_ring (3): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop (4): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tether (5): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator (6) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHqwh2l7bbSrfZo (watch this Video to get a Sense of there I'm coming from)
@mrnoob2514
@mrnoob2514 3 ай бұрын
This comment is underrated.
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
Ah, a fellow Issac Arthur enjoyer!
@Astrokratie
@Astrokratie 2 ай бұрын
@@death_paradePerhaps you made an Extensive Reply to my comment, aldough it seems to have been deleted. Could you perhaps please Reiterate it?
@death_parade
@death_parade 2 ай бұрын
@@Astrokratie Err....I don't understand. Where is your comment that I replied to? It seems that this is your first comment on this thread.
@Astrokratie
@Astrokratie 2 ай бұрын
@@death_paradeThe first Comment in this Thread of Replies to the Comment I made about the Video? It seems like KZbin is hiding some comments/Replies from you. Either that or I misunderstood what you meant with "Comment" and "Reply".
@mysteryguyiscool5054
@mysteryguyiscool5054 3 ай бұрын
Tbh this future is awesome while being somewhat realistic
@johnmccarthy4134
@johnmccarthy4134 13 күн бұрын
Also Venus has the ability to be populated but probably only on airship colonies or a cloud city type scenario.
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