How SpaceX and NASA Plan To Build A Mars Colony!

How SpaceX and NASA Plan To Build A Mars Colony!
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[@General_Confusion]

If the Earth has only got a Billion years left, it's hardly worth me ordering that new lawnmower i was looking at.

[@EinKerl3554]

A billion is the most optimistic estimate, the more likely timeline is 500 million years until the sun has become hot enough to vaporize all liquid water on Earth's surface. So, as they used to say, smoke 'em if you've got 'em.

[@General_Confusion]

But Mars is already like that!@@EinKerl3554

[@elcobra0215]

allah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@djunior874]

​@@EinKerl3554Our tech in 500 million years probably allow us to control the sun

[@ImadZeryouh]

Who said that grass doesnt grow on the other side of universe.

[@stevenmitchell6347]

Nuclear thermal still requires massive amount of liquid fuel. A hybrid nuclear-powered ion/plasma engine would provide the necessary thrust and require less fuel. This concept requires these craft to stay in space thus requiring separate craft from surface to orbit and orbit to surface at each end of the trip. This therefore requires orbital "terminals/stations" for transfer of personnel, equipment, cargo, fuel, etc. between the separate craft. It's a matter of logistics and how to best address the needs. Alternatively, possibly a "frame" that would have six or more Starships docked into transport stations and then delivered to and from Mars with its own nuclear-powered ion/plasma drive. This would make the Starships themselves its cargo. Just an idea from an old, retired Industrial Design Engineer.

[@Constant_Instant_Distant]

Great idea 👍

[@MattyJ55046]

I have been hoping this would happen in the next, what 20 years or so? Or do you think in 10 years? I heard one of the major aerospace companies have a contract to build a nuclear thermal engine.

[@classic_sci_fi]

Agreed. The best spacecraft for transit between Earth and Mars should be built and left in orbit. These 'liners' should include rotating habitats to maintain gravity. Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors are the most compact and efficicient choice for power on Mars and in space.

[@chenetremelus1883]

​@@classic_sci_fi yep I thought of the same thing

[@WarrenLacefield]

I think your idea is great too. Might take maybe 10-15 years to really get Lunar or Mars mining going; some orbital factories and stations in space; appropriate communications and navigation technologies, standards, and rules. Nations, corporations, academia and non-profits (along with space police and militaries), etc. will want their own places and stuff. The road to Mars (and asteroids) will be paved with good intentions as usual. Intentions/purposes/policies will be more important; transport technologies - then like now with cars, boats, and planes - will be taken for granted.

[@davidadams860]

Twitter is actually doing ALOT better…

[@user-kj9no2oz3y]

Now called x

[@ramshambo2001]

Definitely.

[@waynemasters8673]

@@Landon-si5xc Allah owes me alotta money. Pay up, low life.

[@andrewradford3953]

Religious dogmas will cause the same problems they do here. Would be best to have an agnostic society?

[@BIGSTANK1983]

​@@andrewradford3953possibly yes. A lot of issues have come from religion here so might be best to let Jesus stay here on earth.. just a thought

[@pfpchad2747]

Dude, you actually compared running Twitter to creating a Mars colony?

[@rationalmuscle]

Funny: he must get his news from CNN. Twitter trounced Zuck's piece of shit, is running just as efficiently on 70% less staff, and has began to restore free speech. How that isn't "running Twitter" is beyond me.

[@boialkleptopod9165]

That's exactly his point. If he can't do something that's been in trial and error for years now, how can we trust them to successfully CONTINUE the mission on mars? There's a LOT more to it than hiring scientists only to do this mission. You need all kinds of different specialties that people often don't thing of such as therapists, politicians, and other things that make the earth work to make this mission work.

[@pfpchad2747]

@@boialkleptopod9165 Twitter was losing money for many years. Elon just bought it 9 months ago. He gutted it and is in the process of rebuilding it. Venture capitalists take years to restructure failing companies after they buy it. Elon has only owned it for 9 months and most vc takerovers are not as bad and toxic as Twitter. To make that comment means that neither you nor the author know anything about the process. As for Mars, no human has ever set foot on the planet. It's a massive undertaking with no previous blueprint for success. No one else on the planet is even remotely close to achieving what Elon has done with SpaceX. So, I think that the comparison is beyond ridiculous.

[@multiplesourcesofincome7037]

@@boialkleptopod9165please don’t tell me you’re serious?

[@Infinite_Horizonsss]

Haha, I guess that comparison might seem a bit like comparing apples to rocket engines! Running Twitter and creating a Mars colony are definitely on different ends of the cosmic scale. One involves virtual conversations in 280 characters, and the other involves launching rockets, building habitats, and sustaining life on another planet. But hey, in the realm of imagination, who knows what kind of cosmic connections we could make! 🚀🐦🪐

[@user-sn8rh5uf1b]

Agreed. Nuclear propulsion is absolutely necessary for Mars colonization. If Starship/Space X could be equipped with nuclear engines- Game Changer!

[@Cruiserfrank]

There is a lot of half information here. Yes, NTP will make things Much better. But refuelling Starships in orbit will also allow for parabolic orbits to Mars, which will cut flight time from 6 (not 8) months and allow for flights more often than the 24 (or so) month window for the cheapest Hohmann transfer orbits. Colonizing Mars CAN be done, just like colonizing Australia could be and was done with similar transit times from Britain.

[@richard--s]

On Australia the people had oxygen to breath, had sources of fresh water, had wood to make houses and they had animals to eat and a non poisonous soil to plant crops and other food.

[@gfopt]

Why is it important to fly more often than the 26ish month window?

[@digitalnomad9985]

@@richard--s Yes, "colonization" does mean sourcing your water, air and most of your food from in situ resources. That's an engineering problem. There is water and the elements needed to grow food on Mars. That has nothing to do with transit times. That's why you need to send so much equipment, to use the resources.

[@MrJPI]

Saturn V could not put 50 metric tons to the surface of the moon, it could send about that amount towards the moon. The most part of that was the command and service module with its fuel. the lunar lander, LEM, weighted about 15,800 kg, mostly fuel, and had an insignificant amount of crew life support supplies compared to its weight. So it makes no sense to estimate the needs for a Mars trip based on the TLI mass of about 50 tons.

[@jfrappier]

X is great and flourishing. I’d say him and Linda are doing a great job with it. Vid was good too.

[@waynemasters8673]

@@Landon-si5xc We got your address. You're pretty stupid.

[@mylastnamemk0939]

​@@Landon-si5xc Jesus Christ is God

[@rickeybarnes6471]

The aliens will show us the way😂

[@EinKerl3554]

X Twitter is a perfect Xample of how a narcissistic Xtremist can destroy a company just to indulge his Xcessive ego. Financially X Twitter is Xcrement.

[@ingridhohmann3523]

Elon is doing a.great job with X

[@MarkBarrett]

Nuclear engines are very heavy. The propellant is light and far more efficient, but the added weight of the nuclear reactor is a drawback. The empty weight of the ship is heavier, but the loaded weight with propellant is less. Also, nuclear reactors are very very temperamental to throttle controls. They don't like being off/on or quickly throttled.

[@SpruceMoose-iv8un]

If Nuclear engines are gunna be used they would have to leave them in space, starship would have to dock onto a drive system that would take it there then undock to go down to the planet.

[@davidsheckler4450]

You Sheeple love parroting your Daddy NASA 😅😂🤣🤦

[@ratratrat59]

What!? ha ha ha ha ha

[@MarkBarrett]

@@ratratrat59 I misidentified Uranium as being "light". The true fact is the reactor is heavy.

[@ratratrat59]

@@MarkBarrett Do you mean weight or mass? Do you understand the difference?

[@trautzz3234]

Glad to hear the suggestion that NASA SpaceX collaboration would help avoid catastrophe. Charging ahead is important, but so are decades of scientific testing and results, they could really benefit from working together.

[@richard--s]

What do you gain from being quicker in open space on Mars? There is no fresh air, still very much in open space.

[@zinknot]

I remember the last few crews sent by NASA got blown up and killed everyone. They have experience making exploding shuttles.

[@redharrison894]

​@@richard--sResources! In space you have none 🤷‍♂️

[@richard--s]

@@redharrison894 but on Mars, if you arrive with a few tons of material, you don't have the mining equipment, you don't have the processing equipment to make anything.

[@redharrison894]

@@richard--s 100s of Starships will land on Mars before first humans will arrive

[@thomasherzig174]

a kilopower reactor, that delivers 10KW or electric energy. weighs 1500kg and produces 240KWH per day, On the martian equator we have 500W/m2 of solar irradiation at noon when the sky is very bright, or around 2,7 kWh/ m2 per day in average with a 30% of efficiency that equals a constant production of 34Watts /m2 of solar panels. 1 m2 of solarpenels adds 3kgto the payload in average, so with the same weight of the kilo power reactor the output of the Photovoltaic power station is: 34w * 1500/3kg /1000 = 17KW. that means the solar panels still are better regarding power vs payload. The advantage of the Kilopower reactor is that it delivers constant energy, while the solar generated electric energy needs to be stored over night But for the kilo power reactor we need a battery as well, because the energy consumption is not as constant as its production. So the battery is needed to store excessive energy

[@Flintt123]

The Dust kills Solar, you seem to be stuck in ur Brainbubble. Mars = DUST WITHOUT END: Biggest Duststorms cover the Planet for Month u Genius

[@CaptainManic2010]

Would it be possible to link 2 base Starship components....the engine and fuel part....to another Starship as Boosters?

[@ADobbin1]

personally I think they should stop trying to send starship to mars and instead use it to carry the materials and parts to build a giant ship in orbit. Use that to move stuff to mars and use a few starships as a ferry once you get there. Until they actually get to mars and try building something we can't tell how terrestrial materials will interact with the martian atmosphere, climates and gravity. They can model all they want but they wont know, which could leave the first manned trip kind of up a creek with no canoe, no paddle and short on water in the creek.

[@shawndouglass2939]

I agree with you there my friend 😊

[@RickL_was_here]

They are.

[@1Meter]

"we can't tell how terrestrial materials will interact with the martian atmosphere, climates and gravity" lol it's not like we're going to another dimension dude. Ofc we can simulate and test these things here.

[@ADobbin1]

@@1Meter a simulation is a prototype. Until you do it in situ you don't know how it will actually work. How does concrete in -100F temp in CO2 on a third our gravity set? How porous is it. How hard does it get? How strong does it get? How do dust storms interact with it? What kind of damage does the dust do in 100 km an hour winds? How does martian gravity affect our assumptions? You can do math all day long only to find out it doesn't work as expected. We can simulate everything but the gravity. Here on earth you can only do earth gravity or 0-gee.

[@206aviator]

Mars has many challenges, but water is not one of them. The NASA Curiosity Rover found compelling evidence that Mars once had water flowing on the surface, when the atmosphere was denser. And the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took photos of a canyon wall where, between orbits, a fountain of underground water spewed out into the atmosphere and fell on the nearby terrain, making what we all a spring here on Earth. The orbiter second pass photos showed a region of frozen snow and water ice below this momentary eruption of underground water. The volume of water was big enough to be photographed from space. If I were an astronaut looking for water, I would start drilling in that area. Also, send a bunch of robots with scoops and water tanks to the South Pole of Mars, where billions of tons of water ice are just sitting on the surface, waiting to be scooped up, melted and poured into tanks for reuse elsewhere. The North Pole, however, is mostly dry ice, so not a good source of water, as far as we currently know. Long story short: There is water all over Mars, under the surface. Notably, under the surface is also a good place to build habitation that is safe from cosmic radiation, Mars windstorms and solar wind or solar flare events. So, as long as we're digging under there anyway, we might as well do near known water sources. Would such water sources be cheap and easy? No. Will the water be contaminated by some nasty minerals? Probably. But these things can be investigated by robotic missions now in design and construction phases of development.

[@thundertmf]

i would imagine making a moon base would be far more practical than a mars excursion, for one the moon is right there, not eleventy trillion miles away, 2 the moon could be a launching staging point to get to mars later, 3 it would be a great beginning to train astronauts on the moon before attempting mars, 4 a moon base would be far easier to supply, maintain and man, and 5 it would be far cheaper to build it

[@Nunya111]

The thing you’re missing is that nasa is already planning a moon base within the next decade

[@garybranigan9238]

I don't see it as an either this or that situation. Similar to what JFK said we can put man on Mars and do these other things as well.

[@thundertmf]

@@garybranigan9238 seems like a giant waste of money to me, the worlds on fire so we should spend trillions on some space adventure? doesnt seem right as long as we have homeless veterans and hungry kids, let alonr hurtling towards ww3 at the same time

[@garybranigan9238]

Then I am confused. What is it you are looking for on this channel??? Serious question, not at all a rebuke.

[@thundertmf]

@@garybranigan9238 for starters, a justification of the cost of such an venture in light of current world happenings, it would seem to me that frugality would be the order of the day in making a moon base first, as opposed to some pie in the sky super expensive mars goal, taxpayers foot the bill for this kind of stuff, because even if spacex comes up with a plan, you can bet the bloated government bureaucracy of NASA will have their hand all in it inflating the cost 100 fold, as they have consistently in the past, so, aiming a bit lower may make the goal a little less obscene in light of the current status of things, and be easier to sell to the people paying for it

[@d_baumberger]

Oh, PR project for NASA. I’d say nasa needs SpaceX more .

[@waynemasters8673]

@@Landon-si5xc Your address is easy to find. You're in a half way house for morons.

[@theadventuresofbrockinthai4325]

I have read the bible, the Quran, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, The Tibetan book of the Dead, The Book of Mormon, along with a many others and they all tell me they are right. So I ask you, what makes your book any more truthful than any of the others?

[@raijingaming9608]

NASA doesn't need musk anymore than they did in the past. Elon is only able to do what he does because of NASA giving him money

[@elcobra0215]

​@@Landon-si5xcallah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@victorcostalima2966]

100%!!!! I’ve been working in the Aerospace industry for the past 18yrs and NASA don’t build anything, all they do is contract companies to get the job done while they clamp the results and since they are funding the research they get to keep the patents of the inventions… NASA is just a bank funding the projects haha

[@bradleywall2246]

NASA’s timeline for putting boots on Mars is a decade (at least) behind SpaceX’s ambitious plans. I think that NASA, ESA, and others will end up purchasing seats on a SpaceX trip to Mars before NASA is ready with a mission of their own.

[@spinnymathingy3149]

At leas NASA is realistic. Elon famously announced that in 2022 there would be several cargo ships landed on Mars in preparation for a manned landing in 2024, yo must agree with SpaceX there’s ALOT OF HYPE with little substance. In reality SpaceX hasn’t even managed a successful launch of their Mars capable vehicle

[@elcobra0215]

All talk no action SpaceX didn't do even half of what Nasa accomplished

[@SpruceMoose-iv8un]

Artimis needs to be built first, NASA wants to test how human body's react outside of earths magnetic field before going out. Starship needs to go to mars first bringing in gear etc.... its going to be 10 years of sending shit to mars before boots on the ground.

[@eabutler6861]

@@SpruceMoose-iv8un we are not sending people to mars....lol

[@sid35gb]

SpaceX will not be able to fund a Mars Mission and no one is going to want to live there once reality of what that entails is realised.

[@WarrenLacefield]

I liked this video. Especially images of what did look like an Alpha 1 Ballistic Missile (a great plastic toy I used to play with in late '50s - it used baking soda and vinegar, I recall, for propulsion). But to the point of Mars, if we can produce propellants on the Moon and Mars ... and have a few hundred extra Starships sitting in space, then before you know it, we can create and logistically support a "Mars Space-Road" of sorts with transport Starships leaving Mars every month for Earth or Moon and vice versa. For supply cargo, who cares if each ship of the line takes 8 months or longer to travel. Maybe have some faster passenger ships. Of course, Mars is closest every 2 years, but probably close enough to reach for at least 6 to 8 months during that time. Some of those transport ships might be filled by Amazon or Fed Ex or IKEA.

[@Gringosaurus]

How is twitter a failure? Advertisers abandoned it for political reasons not because the platform is broken. In fact its better than ever.

[@Infinite_Horizonsss]

Well, imagine Twitter as a roller coaster. Advertisers were like, "Whoa, this ride's getting a bit too political for our taste!" and decided to hop off. But hey, the roller coaster itself is still zipping along, loop-de-loops and all. So while some passengers got off due to the political twists, the roller coaster is still running smoother than a penguin on ice!

[@elcobra0215]

​@@Landon-si5xcallah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@Lokitellus]

@@Infinite_Horizonsssgood analogy

[@alex_lll]

- Bots and spammers are just everywhere - Notifications are broken - Newly released audio/video calls feature - unable to opt out - money-wise: evaluation halved - dropped from $44 bln to$ 18bln p.s. advertisers left because their ads started to appear next to nazi posts, it's not political reason, it's business reason - twitter unable to do their job properly Yeah, better than ever ... :-/

[@anomalous7470]

every single one of us is ready for mars after covid quarantine

[@StopListenThink]

Omg truth

[@Jack-gn4gl]

@@Landon-si5xc stop spamming bro

[@RickL_was_here]

Landon, been reported.

[@elcobra0215]

​@@Landon-si5xcallah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@jroar123]

A terminal/stations will also be required between Mars and Earth. Obviously it will have windows to make the trip and timing is extremely important. There might be time that crew will have to transfer to the station and wait until the distance becomes close enough to make the last part of the trip to Mars. So a number of StarShip will shuttle from Mars to the station and others will shuttle from Earth.

[@denuncimesmo2568]

I think that human beings need to develop the ability to build real space habitats, rotating, to generate gravity and learn to protect astronauts from cosmic rays, before that it would be a real Russian roulette for each ship that leaves here towards mars

[@richardg1426]

If something goes wrong its like going to the Moon you just can't sling-shot around Mars and come back !

[@turnipsociety706]

why should human beings do that? let the squirrels be in charge

[@denuncimesmo2568]

yes we want astronaut squirrels, Chip And Dale, they would be perfect to prove that there is intelligence on this planet@@turnipsociety706

[@mundysmeadow1012]

As someone who works for the company in charge of the nuclear engine I am so excited for the future!

[@johnchristmas7522]

Lets hope AI doesn't take that from us.

[@TheWadetube]

Nuclear has some drawbacks and when you consider all the potential of nuclear, using it as a steam engine is kind of primitive . I would say that a thermal engine is the slowest and most inefficient use for a nuclear engine, but it provides good thrust . Using it to power a number of other designs like the Helion engine, might be more productive for long range. Imagine also putting a little oxygen into the hydrogen stream and igniting it further. Or putting a series of concentric rings of electromagnets in the bell nozzel to thrust the ions out faster and provide more thrust. This is contingent on your nuclear engine being able to generate megawatts of electrical power and that means carrying a large amount of water.

[@garybranigan9238]

"Imagine also putting a little oxygen into the hydrogen " I have fielded that idea a few times, into deafening silence. inject the O2 immediately as the megasuper heated H2 exits the reactor. You are also adding the extra weight for the O2 tanks and handling system of course, so the benefits must be overwhelming.

[@TheWadetube]

@garybranigan9238 you are on the right track. I had the same idea, as a nuclear reactor can separate water into rocket fuel and oxygen without the need of a cryogenic system, burn that as rocket exhaust and then use the nuclear channels to blast it out even further. Not to mention it would then be ionized and you could use the same reactor generator to give it more thrust with magnetic coils, like a magnetic flux bell nozzel.

[@dandevos3816]

Would it make more sense to 'colonize' the moon first and use that as a staging point to launch material to Mars....? Certaainly I don't know. Seems like a neat idea.

[@Paul-ou1rx]

Definitely. Growing up we camped in our backyard long before going out in the wilderness. I think they have tried two biodome-type environments on Earth and they both failed. I think they would learn a lot on the Moon. Look how much Elon has learned working and modifying rockets over the years. What makes them think they will get most of the kinks out before "living" on Mars. Neil and Buzz were almost stranded on the moon because of 1 switch that somehow broke off needed to launch the return orbital capsule.

[@hockeyplayer28]

So, I have a couple questions. 1 - who is accountable if, during the launch of the nuclear material to power these things, the rocket from earth malfunctions and spreads said nuclear debris over a population center? 2 - Are there ways to eliminate the risk?

[@206aviator]

The answers to these questions are suggested by looking at incremental improvements upon established US launch policies and designs. For (1) Who is accountable? The launch system owners (one or more--can be several companies, as seen with ULA or various Arianespace collaborations) share joint responsibility with the launch site regulatory agency (thus the launch site nation. In the US, the FAA certifies spacecraft, and has commissioned several space ports which have yet to drop failing boosters on population centers. This is why Nasa chose to launch from the Florida Space Coast and launch vehicles in an easterly initial trajectory--over deep ocean. So, briefly, ensure that all nuclear launches use launch sites adjacent to oceans, and with strict regulatory oversight. As for (2) the risk can be drastically reduced by launching non-fuel nuclear engine component modules, via chemical rockets, as conventional payloads, to assemble in space. But for nuclear fuel payloads, special missions can be designed focusing maximum control and safety attention on just a few vehicles designed with two special features: To carry only the nuclear fuel, in fail-safe containers designed with fail-safe features all the way to orbit. Launch-abort systems would be included, as well as sturdy payload fairings that can handle return to earth from any stage in flight. The actual fuel for a nuclear reactor is a very small mass component of the reactor, so these extremely safe rockets would only be needed for a small fraction of the total interplanetary nuclear vehicle mass. All other components of the nuclear starship can use more conventional and cost-effective rocket launch designs, protocols and cost-saving features, while no component of the nuclear starship would be nuclear-powered during the initial orbital boost. Rapid developments in space-based assembly robots will help mitigate the cost of in-space assembly of nuclear reactors and mating with nuclear starships, and the fact that colonization requires (at least) thousands of these starships will allow initial design cost of reusable space assembly robots to be amortized over many units and many years of service life. The same robots can be transported to Mars orbit, where similar construction tasks would be performed to refit and repair the nuclear rockets, to prepare them to return to earth orbit and be used again. Mars cycler systems to exploit reusability economics have been proposed by several authors, including Buzz Aldrin. So, by these methods, nuclear risks could be compartmentalized and controlled to a level that would never place any populated land mass in danger. One area of current space flight risk not considered by this video, but should be discussed somewhere, is how to handle risky space operations performed by nations which place lower value on individual human lives than western nations typically (not always) do. For example, all US space launches are required by law and regulation to design, test and deploy a process for controlled reentry of major flight hardware components, to prevent hundreds of tons of space junk (for example, the eventual fate of the ISS) from falling in the middle of cities or other population zones. However, China openly announced (and their actions confirm) that they will impose no requirements on their own space program to control or predict the location where their falling boosters, expired space stations and other space junk will return to Earth. They impose no requirements on themselves to ensure safety of either their own nation or other nations, but they are actively building a space station today, actively dropping boosters related to their moon missions, and will continue these risky policies for the foreseeable future. What can or should be done to draw their attention to these risks and convince them to take a more responsible position than their current policy? If a Chinese booster or space station module falls on a school or large residential building, the deceased victims and grieving relatives will have no protection or legal recourse, whether those Chinese space junk bits contain fissionable nuclear isotopes or not.

[@realstiff788]

Nasa has been launching nuclear material into space for years. All the rovers on Mars are fueled with nuclear power. And there are a bunch of probes also fueled with nuclear power

[@robb8235]

Majority of launches are on the coast and head out over open water…. So little chance going over populated areas on launch.

[@hydrorix1]

If any company on the planet has a chance of developing field propulsion, it's SpaceX and Elon Musk.

[@elcobra0215]

Elon mush would rather spend his time on twitter

[@turnipsociety706]

Elon Musk doesn't develop anything. he just own things

[@larryfulmer]

wrong. excessively so even.

[@hydrorix1]

@@larryfulmer opinion

[@veramae4098]

Have you read the Robert Heinlein novelette "The man who sold the moon"?

[@bijanshadnia3620]

"Rocket science fusion dance" 😂😂

[@kurtdeyoung2608]

Electric Magnetic Power Propulsion ION I believe they call it. Plasma being held with magnets While in space, not for lift off from Earth, though.

[@gazirovkinn]

what a crazy time we live in. I remember in 2018 telling my teacher that we might have people on Mars in like 2030 and not many people would take it seriously. And here we are.

[@batcollins3714]

Yes, here we are, still on Earth.😂

[@gazirovkinn]

@@batcollins3714 but it's only 2023 yet)

[@D.Eldon_]

_@The Tesla Space_ -- Thumbs down for the Elon bashing in this video regarding X (Twitter). Elon's efforts to preserve freedom are much welcome and brilliant. It's no surprise that some Canadians don't seem to understand or appreciate that. Thumbs down, also, for the misleading title. There is no joint "plan" between SpaceX and NASA regarding the building of a Mars colony. This video is primarily your dream. So far, SpaceX is the only major entity that is actively working toward a colony on Mars. NASA is not yet looking that far ahead. And, until some cleaver engineer invents a viable long-term storage solution for cryogenic hydrogen, any nuclear engine that relies on it will not be suitable for the distances you imagine.

[@Stuff_And_Things]

2 years to get to Mars? They were talking 6 months several decades ago. The trick is to plot the trip for when departure from earth on its orbit will be at its closest point to where Mars will be on its orbit when the ship arrives. Its seems like we should be able to make the journey in even less time now.

[@UndrGrndUnDotCom]

I find it interesting so many moon/mars station concepts show massive amounts of above ground structure like we do on Earth. I think there is a big issue most ignore, Micro meteorites. With such a thin atmosphere, MANY more hit land then here on earth. More concepts need to be show sub terrain ideas. Just 3cm deep and you can 'block' the vast majority of them. Like, build in a crater, then a dome, then cover with regolith.

[@wehrewulf]

Hit land THAN, not hit land then.

[@terrylane1492]

Xenon is a far better propellant than as hydrogen for a nuclear thermal rocket engine. It has a much bigger mass and is easier to contain.

[@geoffgeoff3333]

X doesn't work?! What planet are you currently on? smh

[@spleancrush]

I know right lol

[@Gringosaurus]

Exactly!!!!! We see his political leanings. He must be one of the “i love free speech except speech I disagree with” lol.

[@StopListenThink]

Mercury lol 😆 little too close to the sun

[@elcobra0215]

​@Landon-si5xcallah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@alex_lll]

​@@Gringosaurusyou mean like elon banning people he doesn't like?

[@RobertsDigital]

I have a question for space scientists or anyone who's well acquanted with space and biology. My question is....If martian soil were brought back to the earth and mixed with manure [human or animal waste] and other kinds of organic waste, can you plant seeds in them? And will the seeds grow? Just wondering if martian soil may be handy in case future technology becomes so adavanced for us to start building earth-like space habitats.

[@ayushxst]

It could be possible as it contains iron oxide and other macro and micro minerals in the martian soil, but with today's knowledge of us of space, it is difficult to say anything

[@Azuria969]

martian soil has no nitrogen in it or so Ive heard, 78% of earth's atmosphere is nitrogen, 95% of mars' is co2, so the lack of nitrogen would kill any plant no matter the human or animal waste as fertiliser

[@tomriddle6877]

Solar sails get pushed by sunlight into a position behind Mars where it's gravity balances with the Sun's push. Sails reflect light constantly to north or south pole of Mars.

[@wehrewulf]

Useless in the short distance between Earth and Mars. Solar sails are for low mass gradual acceleration applications. That would be like farting at a sailboat.

[@rexmann1984]

A Mars colony now is just a prestige move. The moon should be our focus it will make Mars a cakewalk.

[@huibu8987]

Mars or nothing

[@rexmann1984]

@@huibu8987 Why?

[@rexmann1984]

@@huibu8987 I want someone to just once give me more than feelz as to why Mars should be done in tandem or before the moon.

[@helmsleyy]

Moon dust gets everywhere just like sand at the beach................................

[@rexmann1984]

@@helmsleyy the dust on Mars is no better and we've already figured out how to get rid of it. It was so sticky because of static electricity. Which can be easily grounded and then brushed off.

[@computerjantje]

The thing always forgotten to mention is that no matter how much we mess up earth with nuclear wars, radiation and pollution, the environment stays way way less hostile then the Moon, Mars a space station or any other place in our solar system. It is not popular to tell as it sounds so romantic to leave earth to find a better life but each and every craft or base that is imagined, designed or build, would be safer for humans to live in when it remains here on earth. It is virtually impossible to mess up earth so much that it becomes safer in another place in space. Sorry for breaking your "going to space" dreams. I still love these technical challenges. They are just not the solution for humans the coming few thousand years.

[@digitalnomad9985]

Yes, as things stand, it's harder, but space is how you access vastly more resources in material and energy, and transfer heavy industry off of Earth. As always, if you don't take the long view, you die. We must drink up the river lest we drown, as the old saying goes.

[@ihateandreykrasnokutsky]

"Mars to stay" is probably a good solution for the expensiveness of the flight.

[@evandipasquale9255]

Still say it would a much better idea to use the starship to build an interplanetary ship in orbit. Similar to all the various versions of transportation we have here on earth, having one ship designed to leave earth and travel millions of miles is so insane that it makes no sense. You wouldn't use a passenger car to transport huge amounts of goods or use a school bus to transport oil across an ocean.

[@alexmorrison6475]

Why is this man throwing shots at Elon for how he runs twitter and his companies. He clearly is extremely efficient and effective in his leadership strategies, why would he suck at logistics and project management on mars

[@ladydustin7811]

He is only busy with his rockets. He never talks about the dangers of living on Mars and how to protect humans there.

[@cbdude]

NASA paying influencers for props probably... Maybe they'll get an interview with The View....

[@PRAISEYESHUA1111]

Global warming 😂 Our breath is more dangerous than sending over 180 rockets into space , puncturing through the atmosphere every single time Not to mention the carbon emissions that come out from launching each of those rockets

[@waynemasters8673]

No one cares. This YouthTube

[@cbdude]

You missed a jab...

[@robertsakall1777]

It was there before the Egipsones showed up as those hunter gatherers. Just evidence of the great flood pushes the date to 11,500 to 12500 years ago. Just look at how the plaster covers to those structures. Same with Sphinx, they sid that was the same date ranges but Shook said it could be centuries older.

[@AlanRPaine]

It would be very difficult to build a colony on Mars that would be so self sufficient that it could survive indefinitely with zero support from Earth. I'm not saying it can't be done but technology on Earth today depends on a huge range of specialities all working together. Consider making an electric car mining and producing lithium, cobalt, nickel, neodymium etc.etc. from different parts of the planet and bringing it altogether without the benefit of an atmosphere that you can breath.

[@hanskleinjan]

It is a very bad idea indeed

[@ambinintsoahasina]

I like the fact that, even though the channel is definitively in favor of Elon Musk, you did not pull punches on Elon's weird management of Twitter and I agree with you as an Elon stan myself 😂😂😂

[@skurinski]

Twitter is much better now

[@Daniel-Davies-Gonstead-Student]

This has to be one of, if not *the* best video you've ever produced! Except for the Twitter comment lmao

[@patricktrue2029]

* DEEP SPACE TRANSIT TIME REDUCTION SCHEME * Immediately begin the development of a "Port Tug Accelerator" space craft (featuring nuclear powered engines designed PUSH items to high velocities quickly). This specialized space craft will be used to PUSH (accelerate) any spaceship toward its deep space destination! The Port Tug Accelerator craft will push any deep space bound space ship only for a short distance and then let the deep space bound space ship glide to its destination with the high velocity provided by the Port Tug Accelerator craft. Place one Port Tug Accelerator craft stationed in lunar orbit until needed, and place a second Port Tug Accelerator craft in Mars orbit for Earth Return Trip velocity assists. This high speed accelerator system will reduce space ship fuel requirements and reduce travel time in space. (Thanks for your considerations and for sharing this concept!)

[@PRAISEYESHUA1111]

So now we know the real reason why we have all those holes in our atmosphere It's because we are breathing too much .. Global warming 😂

[@cbdude]

huh... I thought it was the cows fault... I guess when the facts are all made up its hard for all your influencers to stick to one thing...

[@NathanLeMarbe]

I would trust Elon to run a planet before our government.

[@audreydoyle5268]

Same here. All hail Emperor Elon of Mars

[@djunior874]

Except he's sympathetic to Russia and China 😬😒

[@digitalnomad9985]

It's funny you should say that. Werner VonBraun wrote a novel back in the 1950s about a mission to Mars where the explorers found a native civilization there. The TITLE of the planetary head of state was "elon".

[@cbdude]

@@djunior874 ... I think you missed a jab...

[@djunior874]

@@cbdude what jab

[@bobstovall9570]

Here's what concerns me about this. It has been stated, over and over again, that the James Webb Space Telescope CANNOT BE REPAIRED, should any of the dozen or more mission critical failure point fail. The TWST is a mere ONE million miles from Earth. Here we are talking about building out a system at a distance that is Two-and-one-half ORDERS of MAGNITUDE Greater than that. It's one thing to deploy an unmanned robotic spacecraft with componentry that, although extremely complex, is no where NEAR as complex as what would be required to support a colony, even a very small colony, of humans on that planet, which is, thus far, not only devoid of life but seems to lack what is required to support life even if life were to be introduced.

[@richard--s]

The founding for rhat mission would not be given. They even cut the sample return mission that's a bargain compared to humans on Mars.

[@digitalnomad9985]

You need water and minerals. Mars has them. The rest is engineering. What do you think all those tons of cargo are for? Equipment to use the local resources.

[@ericblanchard5873]

I think Elon could do it with SpaceX without NASA. Maybe Nasa will let SpaceX mess around with nuclear fission engines and Uranium. See who makes a better fission engine within 5 years. Seems like a good race to first place. SpaceX with their super fast way of doing things and doing them well, is essential to a fission engine actually being finished within 5 years. What's after nuclear fission? A dark matter engine? Dilithium use 😂. Warp engines, faster than light engines, how do we get there? Folding space/envelope ship 🚀 ? I'd love to live 500 years or take a peak into the distant future to see if we make it to a multiplanitary civilization or if we blow ourselves up for more land and resources. I think the latter, unfortunately. But space has potentially too many resources, instead of building armys and weapons, we should be building tools to extract resources from comets, asteroids, moons etc. Just find an asteroid thats 85% platinum and be the new Elon musk but richer. This would enrich countries hugely and stop the bickering and war. Just a passing thought, I know it's not just that easy. But still, I do want to see the future.

[@RickL_was_here]

I'm with ya on that.

[@gretco1]

Elon Musk for King 👑 King of the World

[@ingridhohmann3523]

The atom ⚛️ knowledge came along for a vey important reason,....to not be stuck in one place

[@tankeater]

5:55 Luke never completed his Jedi training...

[@carjic]

Elon is running X just great. I can't believe you just said that...

[@jroar123]

SpaceX should think about attaching StarShip together in a giant circle to create artifical gravity as the entire station begins to spin.

[@ArizonaGunsDave]

This video gives off the impression that there are a bunch of 70 year old engineers at NASA. Sure the company has been around for a long time but there are young engineers there too.

[@dand6005]

You were doing great until your extremely biased (and false) comments about Elon and Twitter.

[@elcobra0215]

​@@Landon-si5xcallah doesn't exist bow before Jesus Christ not mohhamed that had 9 year old wives

[@JohnnyGarton]

Aww poor baby, are your feelings hurt?

[@dalehartley2821]

Elon Musk’s chaotic helmsmanship of Twitter is a matter of public knowledge.

[@louren1951]

​@dalehartley2821 do you even use twitter(x)?

[@BJustChillin420]

Someone’s mad 😂😂😂😂

[@jimmijam3]

Had me until the Elon Musk can't run Twitter and people will die comment. How arrogant of you.

[@balaji-kartha]

You should remember 96% of the weight of a rocket has to be fuel to escape Earth's gravity! No wonder we have only managed 3 people at a time into orbit. And since we need a million people to colonize Mars and since we get a window of only 3 months every 3 years (when the two planets are closest), we need a rocket that can carry 100 people at a time and a 1000 of these rockets! His vision is so audacious and jaw dropping that even his hero, Neal Armstrong, dismissed him and that was the only time Elon cried

[@digitalnomad9985]

That counts the whole stack without staging. That's the figure for an unstaged orbital injection. A dedicated tanker Starship could deliver a lot more than 4% of it's internal capacity to orbit if boosted by BFR.

[@ultramarinus2478]

Nuclear powered spaceship is needed only for interplanetary flight. For takeoff and landing, regular starship is doing OK - maybe better than nuclear powered version, because there has to be quite intensive traffic at the colony, and if the trafic hightens the radioactivity of the area, it might be problematic. On the other hand, If the nuclear generator and engine is giwen only to the "cycler", and spaceships are used only as shutles betwen land and the cycler, AND radioactivity-shielded cabins with adjustable gravity, it should be quite fine.

[@user-yf6os8tk9c]

My money is on Elon. Not NASA

[@williamsknowledgetruth6286]

You obviously take issue with Elons policies. Shocking! Leave your politics out of your videos. Your not funny.

[@robertkerby2581]

Absolutely Amazing! Well done!

[@Paetaor]

Put a team on the South pole desert for a year with any support and see how that works first. Then do it again where they can only breathe the air they bring or make.

[@DoggosAndJiuJitsu]

I love the idea, but the “what do I do at 6pm on a weekday” problem will never go away - or at least not for centuries. +20 seconds to communicate with anyone not on Mars (per message), the massive lack of infrastructure (can’t go to the park, grocery store, Mos Eisley Cantina was a long time ago), etc. won’t make life easy. And then we have the significant questions on how 30% gravity over human lifetime will affect everything from sexual reproduction to how our blood travel in out bodies.

[@chuckyowithreplenishingwat371]

From one who really does not know : Why not parachute 3 or 4 of thos shuttle external tanks on Mars filled with supplies and a couple robotic movers and an oxygen genarator tun ny smalll nuke power unit?

[@richard--s]

A parachute will not be enough in that thin atmosphere on Mars. Only 1% of Earth's.

[@frankiziren1147]

I think building an anti gravity induced lunch pad can help with solving the problem of thrust.

[@mylescalladine8693]

essentially building a launch base on the moon there already going to do that actually

[@SpruceMoose-iv8un]

What about the Vasmir engine? or Ion propulsion?

[@PlanXV]

Before the ship can go to mars we have to go to a planet next to a black hole to get the quantum equations

[@antonnym214]

The mission to Mars will deploy at least two starships, tethered and rotating around a center of mass to simulate gravity for the trip, so we're talking about 200 tons at the least. Besides that, you send your cargo years ahead of time, so launch capacity per vehicle is less critical.

[@shawnrezaie6326]

My friends from the other side believe we are not ready for the warp and we could destroy ourselves

[@marcelrudas]

If this will be the case for the housing in Mars, then I will think to settle there for good.

[@eveliaperez3480]

Si pones una referencia en español, estaría bueno. Gracias Soy periodista argentina Éxitos 🍀❤

[@ke2delight]

Nuclear still requires a lot of liquid to be converted into gas for propulsion. Something wasn’t very well calculated. Ion propulsion is the only reasonable, safe, cheap, and light option.

[@digitalnomad9985]

Web search project NERVA.

[@dj_jx]

Nice video, but you forgot to mention that in space the mass is 0. Scientists also forget the fact that space is a vacuum. Do you know how much a kilogram weighs in a vacuum? in classical physics, the vacuum is the absence of mass-energy, so no, it does not have mass. The very definition of the classical vacuum is that its "stress-energy-momentum tensor", the quantity that measures, among other things, its mass-energy content, is identically zero.

[@chanchalibhuju9799]

I don’t think we’ll ever colonize mars.

[@MrLalramchhana]

Just pray to extra terrestrial to give us UFO technology 😂

[@outside7]

I'm all in for colonizing Mars, but you gotta fuck up earth pretty bad, so that Mars becomes the favorable option to live on. XD

[@donnanorth7324]

Are you suggesting the heaviest engines ever, nuclear, are going to lift off from earth? If they are 2nd or 3rd stage engines, you still need heavy lifting to get them in orbit, thus Starship is still needed.

[@lazyhomeowner]

Here's what concerns me, on Earth they have a water deluge system and we also have an ocean where we can drop the rockets and their payloads to ease their descent. on Mars we don't have that. there is no water, there is no deluge system, so parachutes?... big heavy is...big and heavy. getting there is a easy, the hard part is landing.

[@readhistory2023]

Why not sling shot to get more velocity?

[@SuperSuchties]

ur channels wouldn’t be here without that „guy“ that couldn’t. last video i ever watched from u. and i really tried

[@cbdude]

Ditto...

[@kingdomofkush2112]

It is one thing to experiment with humans in a controlled environment to try and prediction how they would react in the real world. The danger is that we humans are extremely unpredictable and therefore the Standardization Procedures that first Mars colonizers are going to come with may prove to be a recipe for disaster. We, the Kingdom of Kush project, on the other hand, are planning to do something very very similar to joint Mars Colonization mission... Only we want to do it in the real world with real people and real challenges similar to those facing humans in general when it comes to the Mars mission. By setting up a physical presence o our reinvented state on an unclaimed land in the Nubian desert. We are observing and learning from the plans of SpaceX in order to apply the same, albeit on very minimized scales, in order to reinvent, sell, plan and establish what could potentially be the 55th state on the African continent. But the real kicker here is that SpaceX and NASA could study our success in this reestablishment project to come up with more informed, better tested standard.

[@keithnance4209]

A nuclear thermal/ion tugboat that pulls/pushes/slingshots the starship payload to Mars or other destinations.

[@cikbro-ts7vm]

很有趣

[@johng.8517]

I think it is way too soon for a Mars colony. Maybe hundreds of years from now. First build one on the moon. Then launch rockets from there where gravity is 1/6 of Earth.

[@chrishooge3442]

Moon first...then Mars. We're probably going to want the equivalent of a logistics base in orbit to stockpile supplies.

[@bristoled93]

Would it not be a better idea to build an orbital ring so we can all get into space really cheap, humanity as a whole could afford it as a massive project and it would be a good investment.

[@user-by7jv6qd7x]

"we can all get into space": to do what, exactly? Are you aware which kind of cold and lifeless, desolate and inhospitable "space" is? Wake up and stop feeding laughable vain fantasies by morons such as e musk

[@adhisushi6365]

couldn't you use the exhaust gasses to power a turbine to create electricity for the star ship

[@digitalnomad9985]

There are a number of ways to extract electricity from a heat difference.

[@braggarmybrat]

Elon. You will need people who are willing and able to go and have something to contribute. I have 2 MAs and ABD with a Doctorate. I'm smart. I'm 67. It's ok that I don't expect to survive long on the planet, or even the trip. Send us old folks up there, and give us the basic training we need to create a foundation for others to follow. Let us build a foundation for the younger people to live and work. This world doesn't value us much, but we can still give a lot for important things. That's it.

[@wefuntw]

even with spacex starship, current tech only allow us stay on the moon with affordable price, mars? maybe year 2100 or 2200.

[@user-bh7zh6lt8w]

Twitter has never been better 😂😂😂

[@edwardhowe4471]

Twitter has never been better.

[@JLCra87]

I think SpaceX needs to get Starship solid (which they undoubtedly will), I then think NASA and private industry needs to partner with them in a WAY more significant way with their V3 engine and ship. That thing has 300 ton capabilities from Earth to LEO. With that they could build in LEO. Make much much larger ships with nuclear propulsion, that way we don't need to send 1000 ships. We can send 1-10 ships. Maybe a few Starships for Mars to orbit transfer.

[@Bacnow]

I signed up to be the guy to deliver the Amazon packages to the colonists! Hey bud, 2 day delivery is promised for Prime members!

[@PullinMyFinger]

Why not practice, build and maintain a colony in Antarctica? Extreme desert environment similar to what can be expected on Mars. Much closer to address any issues, as it can be a starting point to work from. Antarctica can become both a working self sustainable model and ability to explore the continent and its environment like never before. A win win for both Science and Exploration. Space X, NASA, and other counties or private corporations can work out all of the logistics of an operation of this kind to ensure a more feasible and successful interplanetary life and beyond.

[@RickL_was_here]

We're going to need more than just Mars but yes, it makes for a great kick off point.

[@RickL_was_here]

And, everything Elon claims, will actually happen, just maybe not in the amount of time he claims (his 1 weakness).

[@robinsmith9134]

Uncalled for calling Elon Musk a lunatic. This man is humanity’s saviour.

[@ratratrat59]

Elon is the offspring of Elizabeth Holmes and the Pied Piper.

[@rickpilhorn]

No matter what, they better practice on the moon first or this will end badly. And we all know it. Add to that: launching interplanetary spaceships from the moon is much easier than doing so from earth.