France’s €26BN New Railway to Italy

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@FuturologyChannel
@FuturologyChannel 8 ай бұрын
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@Patrick-y4d1z
@Patrick-y4d1z 8 ай бұрын
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@lucijanpraprotnik
@lucijanpraprotnik 8 ай бұрын
I wonder when will this mega project be done and open???
@Michael_Brock
@Michael_Brock 8 ай бұрын
Geographical error network spain in the east and Hungary in the west, fact checking lol.! Has the world flipped upside down or is this video leaked from the mirror universe? Lmao
@moomeuh1342
@moomeuh1342 7 ай бұрын
My family owns a business in Bussoleno, and one of the main reason why locals are against the railway is the fact that previous dillings (made by olders tunnels creation) had release uranium and asbestos powder from the mountains to the valley.
@ML-ek6jb
@ML-ek6jb 8 ай бұрын
Finally !! Living in Turin since 5 years and can't tell you how much this region needed tracks !!
@theycallme_mori
@theycallme_mori 8 ай бұрын
Italy is lovely, Turin, my hometown, it’s full of history and art, you should defenitly come
@gabrieleronzini
@gabrieleronzini 8 ай бұрын
@@theycallme_mori Come direbbe qualcuno: "la nuova Dubai"
@Pippero92
@Pippero92 8 ай бұрын
You live in Turin and yet dont know that there are daily trains to Paris already? Just open Trenitalia site. Moreover the TAV tunnel described in the video will only transfer freight and not people.
@ML-ek6jb
@ML-ek6jb 8 ай бұрын
@@Pippero92 Yeah and how much time does it take ? 10 hours.. Wonder why ? Cause it makes you go to milan and then across switzerland, quite a detour isn't it ? And as for your second claim, please watch the video carefully before commenting it....
@Staaaangh
@Staaaangh 8 ай бұрын
@@ML-ek6jb currently the line is suspended due to damage from a landslide in the french side near Modane. The railway goes through the frejus tunnel and it is already existing
@jossdeiboss
@jossdeiboss 8 ай бұрын
As an Italian, I have been waiting completion of this project for so long! Seeing also how "low-cost" travels are becoming more expensive every year, I am hoping that rail international travel will have similar prices to the airplane. If so, I wouldn't mind taking some hours more to travel but being able to sit in a comfy train.
@zyoninkiro
@zyoninkiro 8 ай бұрын
If it is anything like the AV network in Italy, competition will likely keep ticket prices reasonable. The competition between NTV (Italo) and Trenitalia (Frecciarossa) has done wonders for keeping ticket prices affordable and forcing both operators to up their level of service. With the Lyon-Turin link, you should have competition between SNCF (OuiGo/TGV), Trenitalia (Frecciarossa) and likely NTV (Italo) as all three operators have train sets that can and do (in the case of SNCF and Trenitalia) run on both the French and Italian high speed networks. I would not be sutprised to see other operators like Renfé and DB move in as well as other private operators.
@jossdeiboss
@jossdeiboss 8 ай бұрын
@@zyoninkiro Yeah that sounds plausible indeed!
@valerianocuomo996
@valerianocuomo996 8 ай бұрын
​@@zyoninkirothe high speed rails in Spain is owned by Italy, by Trenitalia (Iryo is an ETR 1000), TRENITALIA COMPANY IS OWNED BY THE ENGLISH AVANTI GROUP, which uses the PENDOLINO, an Italian technology from 40 years ago, the entire Greek network, in France there are 2 year that the Arrow Rossa makes all the routes, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT ITALY IS LEADER IN EVERYTHING, JUST THINK WELL IN THE MEANWHILE ITALY IS BREAKING THE BRENNERO TOWARDS AUSTRIA, (that will be the longest in the world, the third crossing of Genoa, the Naples Bari, they always pierce the Apennines, in Europe they are lucky, they grow up there who spend less, and faster... they just have to pack the tracks and sleepers, those who have traveled in Italy, hundreds of very long tunnels, Florence Bologna high speed rails, practically 300kmh underground for 250 km! Italian infrastructural engineering is incredible, not to mention 100 meter high viaducts everywhere, service stations suspended like an overpass over the road, you eat and see the motorway under your feet...Europe 😅😅 then the costs , have you seen Torino Lyon? Much
@ainonainpg3d799
@ainonainpg3d799 8 ай бұрын
With the train you arrive in the centre of the city (mostly) with an airplane not. Thats why most of the time trains are actually more time efficient.
@jossdeiboss
@jossdeiboss 8 ай бұрын
@@ainonainpg3d799 Absolutely, that's why I really hope we can slowly stop using Ryanair or Easy Jet to move around but sit comfortably in a train!
@chrisgavin
@chrisgavin 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile here in the UK ... Our Prime Minister has just CANCELLED building most of our SECOND high speed rail line (HS2) which was planned to connect Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds.
@dennyroozeboom4795
@dennyroozeboom4795 8 ай бұрын
It’s it tradition by now in the UK to take 6 steps back if you want to go forward with 1?
@corsacs3879
@corsacs3879 8 ай бұрын
not only that, he sold off all the land the government had acquired for the project so the next one can’t revive it :)
@gregorypilau3530
@gregorypilau3530 8 ай бұрын
​@@dennyroozeboom4795😂
@Antarius1999
@Antarius1999 8 ай бұрын
@@dennyroozeboom4795 It has always been the case.
@dennyroozeboom4795
@dennyroozeboom4795 8 ай бұрын
@@Antarius1999 Well that probably means I should catch up with English history.
@hamishashcroft3233
@hamishashcroft3233 8 ай бұрын
4:30hrs from Paris to Milan will be a game changer. 7 Hours is too long for most people but 4 is fine, and will make it highly competitive with air travel.
@mr.meeseeks3074
@mr.meeseeks3074 8 ай бұрын
4h30 makes it equivalent to air travel but with less stress. The problem will be the cost
@ebenezer576
@ebenezer576 8 ай бұрын
​@@mr.meeseeks3074for business travel it will be great and since Paris is siege of Peugeot and Turin of fiat in auto industry for example such travel might switch from plane to train. That's just one example.
@mr.meeseeks3074
@mr.meeseeks3074 8 ай бұрын
@@ebenezer576 thats marginal lmao
@ebenezer576
@ebenezer576 8 ай бұрын
@@mr.meeseeks3074 not for me ^^
@Kamonohashiii
@Kamonohashiii 8 ай бұрын
​@@mr.meeseeks3074 air travel is only 1h between Paris and Turin
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 8 ай бұрын
Imagine: in principle, you could take a high-speed train from Naples to London. But not to Manchester.
@seemymobot4987
@seemymobot4987 8 ай бұрын
Our government is a joke
@ebenezer576
@ebenezer576 8 ай бұрын
With a commute in subway in Paris. But yes.
@astraydhurion7697
@astraydhurion7697 8 ай бұрын
​@@ebenezer576No, there's already an alternative railway in Disneyland Marne la Vallée which avoids commuting through the subway within Paris. But that means any train from Milan to London can't really take passengers within Paris.
@carlomontecarlo7881
@carlomontecarlo7881 8 ай бұрын
So what? Is Naples, with its huge metro area, less deserving than Manchester, in your opinion? 😂 Technically, the Italian high-speed network ends in Salerno & Bari right now!
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne 8 ай бұрын
@@carlomontecarlo7881 It was a dig at the Brits' inability to build a high-speed network.
@willi3062
@willi3062 8 ай бұрын
I am from the Susa Valley, which is where the Italian part of the project will be built. Although there is some pushback from organizations, I believe this will be a vital and beneficial project for both countries!
@ji5340
@ji5340 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of it either. There's always drawbacks, such as excessive migrants traveling in and out of both countries.. I don't know. Then again, it may be a positive move
@willi3062
@willi3062 8 ай бұрын
@@ji5340 migrant routes through our valley has been an interesting activity in the valley. However, I am now living in the U.S. for 4 years, and I can tell you that here we lack so many railway projects that would bring BILLIONS to the U.S. economies. I would say Italy and France high speed connection would be a giant achievement.
@ji5340
@ji5340 8 ай бұрын
@@willi3062 I'm Italian living elsewhere and I'm sure the Italian government has more of an insight on this predicament
@magomalvagio344
@magomalvagio344 8 ай бұрын
​@@willi3062As an Italo-american living in Val di Susa, I couldn't agree more, the economy of our valley is obviously suffering economically, a railway would make our tourism boom and give many jobs to many people
@willi3062
@willi3062 8 ай бұрын
@@magomalvagio344 exactly! People complain there is no job in the valley and then they go and support NOTAV, “ clearly the environment is going to be damaged by this tunnel by a CLEAN ENERGY EFFICIENT transportation system. Don’t they realize that the thousands of cars on the A32 that produce tons of smoke could be minimized with this project?
@threesixnine369six
@threesixnine369six 8 ай бұрын
8:20 from Spain in the east to Hungary in the west Followed by stock footage of people clapping. Priceless 😂 Great project though 🫶🇫🇷🚄🇮🇹🫶 💕🇪🇺
@Turbo_TechnoLogic
@Turbo_TechnoLogic 8 ай бұрын
LOL. Maybe chatgpt
@noelleggett5368
@noelleggett5368 8 ай бұрын
Let’s hope the French and Italian engineers on the project know which way is which.
@TheAlez44
@TheAlez44 8 ай бұрын
I'm an Italian that studied in Grenoble for one year. I have traveled from Lyon to Turing a lot of times and I can not tell how uberable long the train ride was when you're used to italian high speed trains. This will benefit us all.
@Feedozz
@Feedozz 8 ай бұрын
si condivido ma stai dicendo che l’alta velocità italiana non è “buona”?
@alessioartioli3323
@alessioartioli3323 8 ай бұрын
@@Feedozz no, il contrario. Sta dicendo che il treno tradizionale tra Lione e Tornio è molto peggio, quando sei abituato all'alta velocità italiana, ossia sta facendo un complimento all'alta velocità italiana. Io ho capito questo...
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 8 ай бұрын
Opening this new high-speed line from Lyon to Turin would allow effectively high-speed travel between France and Italy at speeds up to 270 km/h or more. But SNCF also needs to build two more TGV high-speed lines, one from Bordeaux to Toulouse and one from Marselle to Nice (and possibly to Monaco beyond). Just these two new TGV lines would tremendously increase usage of TGV in France.
@melaniedrogr951
@melaniedrogr951 8 ай бұрын
and bordeux spanish border (spain already build the rest to madrid), and they should finally fill the Nimes-perpigan gap on the line to barcelona. then frances high speed network is finished.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 8 ай бұрын
@@melaniedrogr951 I believe there are plans to connect Bordeaux with the Spanish AVE network.
@senefelder
@senefelder 8 ай бұрын
A connection between Nice and Genoa would be cool too
@Tylan_the_gamer
@Tylan_the_gamer 8 ай бұрын
And montpellier- perpignan/spanish border high speed rail link
@melaniedrogr951
@melaniedrogr951 8 ай бұрын
@@Sacto1654 there are, but they have remained plans for quite a long time. Long enough for spain to build the entire madrid/french border section based on the same plans.
@lorenzobaldini5837
@lorenzobaldini5837 8 ай бұрын
Deceptive title. This is not a french project that's being built in Italy, but a European rail project that is both in Italy and France. The EU is financing the largest portion of the 26bn
@happyslappy5203
@happyslappy5203 8 ай бұрын
The EU money comes from net contributors: 1. Germany 2. France 3.Italy, etc
@lighting7508
@lighting7508 7 ай бұрын
yes but we must give credit to the EU where it is doing a good thing, lest you want what happened to my country the UK. People from Cornwall a poor region of the UK recieving insane amounts of money from the EU voted Brexit. HOW TF CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE?!@lappy5203
@linesided
@linesided 8 ай бұрын
Can we please have this in Canada - Toronto - Montreal, there's no damn mountains either! Way to go France and Italy :)
@GeneTsao
@GeneTsao 8 ай бұрын
The line should go from Pearson Airport to Ottawa to Montreal. Brand new line. Dedicated to passenger traffic.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
A direct line Milan-Toronto? 🤔 We can do that.
@dominationsrebellion6433
@dominationsrebellion6433 8 ай бұрын
Montreal - NYC
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
@@dominationsrebellion6433 it could be done easily.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
@@dominationsrebellion6433 but this time... without expropriating the land of the natives, thanks. We have seen what Canadians have recently done in British Columbia.
@お前の言う通りだが
@お前の言う通りだが 8 ай бұрын
This is not the purpose of this video, but from a Japanese point of view, I envy the European high-speed rail system, because in Japan, once a high-speed rail system opens, in some places there are no more limited express services from the parallel conventional lines, and the system is just waiting to decline. I hope for the further development of logistics in Europe.
@tenalafel
@tenalafel 8 ай бұрын
In France, when a new high speed track is put in service, the classic trains are removed or the number is reduced drastically. The main difference with Japan is that all our trains are standard gauge, so a TGV can uses regular tracks to reach a destination. ( for example, from the video, the TGV will use the regulars tracks in the Maurienne valley and out of Lyon, as well as when reaching Turin )
@mygetawayart
@mygetawayart 8 ай бұрын
That is a shame. Some of the most beautiful views of Japan are from those local express trains, like the section of Chuo Line from Shiojiri to Nakatsugawa which is one of my favourites.
@お前の言う通りだが
@お前の言う通りだが 8 ай бұрын
​@@tenalafel I see, that is surprising. It is difficult for high-speed rail and conventional rail to coexist, even if direct connections to conventional lines are possible. Maintaining public transport in rural areas is one of the biggest challenges in this country. The number of trains on my local line has also been drastically reduced. For this reason, I am sad that I cannot be honestly happy about the opening of the high-speed rail extension. Thanks for your reply.
@zyoninkiro
@zyoninkiro 8 ай бұрын
That has not been the case in Italy. The parallal conventional lines remain as they still service smaller communities in between the major destinations and Trenitalia still operates the RGV (regional limited stop fast trains) services on those lines. High speed trains can also use them if the high speed line has to be closed for some reason. RFI (the owner of those lines) has also been upgrading many of those lines. The main issue here is those upgrades are in northern Italy. Southern Italy is the runt of the litter when it comes to just about everything which requires a lot of money.
@henkmagnetic3103
@henkmagnetic3103 8 ай бұрын
@@zyoninkiro The equivalent to the northern part of England and Scotland, possibly.
@catarmy6927
@catarmy6927 8 ай бұрын
Amazing project. Europe is a dream 💙
@TheBritalianJob
@TheBritalianJob 8 ай бұрын
So excited to get from Paris to northern Italy calmly and elegantly in just a few hours by train rather than the drudgery of having to fly
@Foersom_
@Foersom_ 8 ай бұрын
Good video, but 2:07 please write dates with dd/mm/yyyy or ISO format yyyy-mm-dd, not with MDY.
@gijsvanlieshout
@gijsvanlieshout 8 ай бұрын
At 8:20, the voice-over states "[]...which runs from Spain in the East to Hungary in the West." West and East are the other way around...
@thierrybidault5837
@thierrybidault5837 8 ай бұрын
UK is NOT the 2nd largest economy of Europe anymore. Figures are based on the Pound which is artificially kept high - it is higher than the Dollar and the Euro! Come on! - With actual figures based on productivity and consumption, UK is down below France, just above Italy. Since the Brexit, UK economy slowed down and lost 12% of its internal production. Just read experts reports worldwide.
@Just_another_Euro_dude
@Just_another_Euro_dude 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, GDP PPP per capita of France is HIGHER than GDP PPP per capita of the UK and also average salaries ain't lover in France compared to the UK at all. It's the American video. He even uses $ instead of the € 😂, while 26 billion euros is much more than 26 billion dollars.
@happyslappy5203
@happyslappy5203 8 ай бұрын
True! IMF 2024 GDP PPP France: 4.01 trillion UK: 3.98
@Connor_Herman
@Connor_Herman 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I would've loved to use this once when I was living in Lyon but took a 10 Euro flight from Malta to Turin then a bus back to Lyon. Definitely challenging terrain to work with.
@stevens1041
@stevens1041 8 ай бұрын
Two very beautiful and iconic cities. Can't wait for this to be done, I'll be a frequent customer on it.
@Lorre982
@Lorre982 8 ай бұрын
Italy and Austria are also Building the Brenner base tunnel way more longer than turinn lyone
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
You don't even know how many projects we had here in Friuli just to improve railway systems, the port of Trieste is under a continue development from the past 15 years and it's continuing. The Chinese was also interested in the port of Trieste in order to use it to deliver their goods. But of course EU regulations have almost denied such proposal due to the low quality of the imported chinese goods. In the last 15-20 years Italy have basically renovated and improved 2/3 of the whole national railway system. Of course it lacks the 1/3 in the deep south... But we can not risk to invest money there if such money will be delivered to mafias. But by doing so, the South will remain underdeveloped with great angry of the citizens. 😑 We need to get rid of mafias before really investing in the south and producing jobs and work opportunities. Damn that time the Allies have saved the mafia from the fascist regime!
@lucadipaolo1997
@lucadipaolo1997 8 ай бұрын
@@danielefabbro822 The government is investing in railways in the south though, albeit not as much as is needed. But yeah, if only the Allies had tried another method or at least cleaned up after themselves, after all, it would have benefited them as well since the American mafia also became stronger after WW2 ended, and that such thing would end up happening should've been blatantly obvious to anyone and everyone.
@valerianocuomo996
@valerianocuomo996 8 ай бұрын
​@@danielefabbro822South, Naples Bari HSR, for this year, the South has been left to itself by Rome: in central and north Italy, 90% of the Italian export, full occupation, the south is like Wales and northern England, east Germany , Spain except Catalonia and the Basque Basques, Portugal, Greece, and the mafia is now European: in Germany: only Calabrian ndrangheta..50 billion euros of illicit business, not to mention the Turkish mafia leader in heroin, Albanian, Russian, Germany is the victim of its success, the mafias go where there is money and then the European laws are laughable, Holland and Belgium have been infected for decades now, only Italy has very harsh laws, in fact everyone in London flees, in Spain, London is the city that recycles all the shit in the world, FBI, INTERPOL, anti-Italian mafia, all proceeds from coca bring to the UK, IT'S ROTTEN, STILL THE SHIT OF HOLLYWOOD, SICILY, NOW ONLY ONE IS POWERFUL, THE NEAPOLITAN AND SICILIAN ONE, THE STATE IS GONE HEAVY DOWN,,...
@valerianocuomo996
@valerianocuomo996 8 ай бұрын
​@@danielefabbro822 A italian troll,😅😅
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
@@valerianocuomo996 ma che troll e troll.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 8 ай бұрын
There is a high demand for gravel and sand. Therefore, the resulting excavation can be used well in other projects.
@ice401557
@ice401557 8 ай бұрын
08:19 "From Spain in the East to Hungary in the West". Lol.
@lissandrafreljord7913
@lissandrafreljord7913 8 ай бұрын
Someone please get this guy a map.
@edwardlsanders
@edwardlsanders 8 ай бұрын
My family lives in northern Italy and we are in southern England. For various reasons we can't fly. Typically our journey needs to be split staying in some charming German or french city -- but this is expensive. With this tunnel I reckon we'd be able to easily do London to Venice in a day
@carlo_berruti
@carlo_berruti 8 ай бұрын
Good video. As highlighted at some point, this is not just a mere Lyon-Turin high-speed connection. It is also the Milan-London, or the Venice-Marseille, or the Rome-Paris link. More and more direct services will be available, within a time range between three and six hours of rail travel. At least as far as Italy is concerned, this will actually reshape geography, in a way.
@Alby_Torino
@Alby_Torino 8 ай бұрын
It's NOT, as the title of this video suggests, "France’s €26BN New Railway to Italy", It's a shared project and 63% of costs are on Italy's side, so the title should be, Italy's new railway to France. But we are used to misinformation about Italy form the anglosphere. Always.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 8 ай бұрын
No France will pay more since there is a longer HSL on France's side, but I agree that the title should have been fairer to Italy
@paolotabone8143
@paolotabone8143 8 ай бұрын
Sicuramente il titolo non è perfetto, ma come detto sopra non può neanche essere chiamato come dici tu. Sarebbe meglio dire 'The new €26 bln railway connecting France and Italy'
@luciliocogato9746
@luciliocogato9746 7 ай бұрын
What Alby_Torino has written may be partially true if referred only to the Mount Ambin basis tunnel section which is at present under constructions. Anyway those numbers don't take into account the EU share. In other words total cost of Ambin basis tunnel section (from Bussoleno to St. Jean de Maurienne) is shared as follows: Italy 2.884 mln France €, 2.096 mln € EU 3.320 mln (40%).
@Tuononno_1231-ty4hs
@Tuononno_1231-ty4hs 3 ай бұрын
Meh, it doesn't really matter
@jonathanravenhilllloyd2070
@jonathanravenhilllloyd2070 8 ай бұрын
I must say, Iberia needs a west coast high speed option linking Andalusia and Galicia through Portugal's major coastal cities.
@XONNIE2011
@XONNIE2011 8 ай бұрын
2026 Madrid to Lisbon 2030 the full network
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 8 ай бұрын
Portugal just announced its first high-speed line to be built!
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 8 ай бұрын
It is the Portuguese side that is at fault, the railroad side is finally going ahead, there is a launched procedure to Build the First Stretch of line. But Portugal doesnt use Standard gauge and is unlikely to change, so no mediterranean corridor. However all new lines will be built with beams with both gauges, which would be an easy change once the decision is made. There are however priorities and the biggest hurdle is the rail/car Bridge across the Tagus river in Lisbon, it is one of the biggest natural barriers in Europe that already has its longest Bridge. This is a key part in all of this but it is a very expensive part because that is a upward of a billion euros cost.
@Kanard28400
@Kanard28400 8 ай бұрын
Formidable ce tunnel !! Bravo à tout le personnel !!
@halflink
@halflink 8 ай бұрын
This is the link that was missing! The news that construction is going on time and on budget is very promising.
@sdinc1
@sdinc1 8 ай бұрын
Escellent video! However, can you make the pace a little bit slower? It is hard to follow the graphics. Thank you.
@philippvelimirovic2284
@philippvelimirovic2284 8 ай бұрын
Literally 5 seconds into the video using $ instead of € sign...
@jonathanravenhilllloyd2070
@jonathanravenhilllloyd2070 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY! Also finish the high speed line to Spain!
@johndoe6011
@johndoe6011 8 ай бұрын
I live in Zurich, and this project will make traveling to the south-west of Europe so much better!
@WESLIKESMUSIC12
@WESLIKESMUSIC12 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a new video from futurology for so long! Keep up the great work!
@sativothegrail461
@sativothegrail461 8 ай бұрын
I live in Geneva and we really want this infrastructure to be done asap. It's going to be awesome for many of us.
@russko118
@russko118 8 ай бұрын
i was so afraid as italian that NIMBYs would stop yet another project (fuck NOTAV), i'm so happy that they are doing it for real
@oscarpagliasso9113
@oscarpagliasso9113 7 ай бұрын
Turin is probably the best Italian city for train lines, when this railway will be ready it’s going to open possibilities for extremely cheap interstate transport, awesome 🎉
@EwoutterHoeven
@EwoutterHoeven 8 ай бұрын
The information in this video is very good. Maybe tone down on the animations and effects a little, especially the ones that are just visual eyecandy, it makes it very tiring to watch.
@linusfotograf
@linusfotograf 8 ай бұрын
He should also tell the person in the next room to stop playing piano until he’s finished with the voice over
@cliveshakespeare9184
@cliveshakespeare9184 8 ай бұрын
Nice interesting video! Thank you for quoting costs in Euro, and measurements in metric, but why not dates in European international form e.g. 26/01/2024? Very confusing!
@mylesgarcia4625
@mylesgarcia4625 8 ай бұрын
What a GREAT video! Merci beaucoup et molto grazie!
@IvanPompa-lr7iy
@IvanPompa-lr7iy 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Australia not constructing a high speed rail between Sydney and Melbourne in a completely flat profile across the coast and without any borders in between
@italiastoria
@italiastoria 8 ай бұрын
The line is being built by France AND ITALY, 50-50
@francesco5254
@francesco5254 8 ай бұрын
Why does the title say it's just a French project? The tunnel is being built by both. Italy is even financially covering it more than France.
@krilandiaball
@krilandiaball 8 ай бұрын
Hope it'll be success
@davidsommer325
@davidsommer325 8 ай бұрын
8:20 Spain is in the west and Hungary in the east.
@jacopomainoldi9025
@jacopomainoldi9025 8 ай бұрын
Correct Video Name: Italy's New Railway to France. Since Italy is already building one with Austria... It is helping Italy not the opposite.
@deedetres703
@deedetres703 8 ай бұрын
Feeling this!! Historic touring at it's finest - many will be edified!
@michaelsutter8207
@michaelsutter8207 8 ай бұрын
Very nicely researched. A lot of useful information. Thank you
@jeffallen4377
@jeffallen4377 8 ай бұрын
From Spain in the East to Hungary in the West? Proofreading adds authenticity in my opinion.
@smik86
@smik86 7 ай бұрын
@FuturologyChannel Nice video 🙌 Just a question: The total length is like 270 km: 70% in France 30% in Italy The tunnel is 57.5 km 45 km in France 12 km in Italy And costs distribution is 40% EU 35% Italy 25% France How can be possible France is paying less then Italy? No controversy, just wondering Thankyou
@Solid_Snake99
@Solid_Snake99 8 ай бұрын
ANDIAMOOOOO GO TAV ! 🇮🇹🇮🇹☝🏻
@magomalvagio344
@magomalvagio344 8 ай бұрын
Ben detto!🇮🇹💪💪💪🔥
@vivalasvegas702
@vivalasvegas702 8 ай бұрын
We are still waiting for our first high speed train in the USA….l’m so jealous of EU and Asia!
@cowymtber
@cowymtber Ай бұрын
Nice shot of a Canadian train at 12:56.
@mathismarcelle9277
@mathismarcelle9277 8 ай бұрын
rail is awessome !
@willbeach87
@willbeach87 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely wild pronunciation of Turin. In English it is pronounced like Ter-Inn. In Italian it's Torino, pronounced phonetically. Lived there for a while and never heard it pronounced like that
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 8 ай бұрын
Well we Italians knows that it's as hard for english-speakers pronounce Italian words as it is for us Italians pronounce english words. The pronunciation of vocals is totally different so if one is used in one of the two ways, it becomes a bit hard to understand and grasp the other language. So... Let's being patient and accept it as it is.
@nicolasherman6487
@nicolasherman6487 8 ай бұрын
French noun are slaugthers too don't worry
@dwvide6049
@dwvide6049 8 ай бұрын
Finally some good news 🇮🇹🇫🇷🇪🇺❤️
@peterphilips1003
@peterphilips1003 8 ай бұрын
For the same amount of money as this tunnel you can build 3 miles of subway tunnels in Manhattan. (I only partially kid)
@BJHolloway1
@BJHolloway1 8 ай бұрын
Breaking news the New Brenner Tunnel when opens will be significantly longer Secondly as most this railway (Lyon Turin) is underground in the alpine area it is more correct to say under and not over the alps.
@bronzinorns
@bronzinorns 8 ай бұрын
The Brenner base tunnel will be shorter than the Gotthard base tunnel, however, when connected with the Intall tunnel, this underground network will reach a formidable length of 64 km.
@BJHolloway1
@BJHolloway1 8 ай бұрын
@@bronzinorns correct
@dringo0
@dringo0 8 ай бұрын
Kinda wonder what will happen to the old railway that linked France to Italy. Will it still be used ? Or will it be less and less used and ultimatly be closed like a lot of french train lines that are deemed unprofitable.
@francoisb.4453
@francoisb.4453 8 ай бұрын
Very well explained!
@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists
@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists 8 ай бұрын
30 years too late, but its a start....
@odoricb3156
@odoricb3156 8 ай бұрын
ON BUDGET!!! Well Done!
@alfaeco15
@alfaeco15 8 ай бұрын
Plan to have two sets of tunnels, one for freight and the other for passengers. Freight and passenger traffic don't fit well.
@johnransom1146
@johnransom1146 8 ай бұрын
Love the Alberta wheat car in the train shot near the end.
@paddybm3245
@paddybm3245 8 ай бұрын
„From Spain in the east to Hungary in the West“ mhm. Sure. 😂
@Just_another_Euro_dude
@Just_another_Euro_dude 8 ай бұрын
If you look at it upside down. 😅
@petterbirgersson4489
@petterbirgersson4489 8 ай бұрын
2:20 That is NOT a European style truck.
@MichaelTavares
@MichaelTavares 8 ай бұрын
He’s using stock footage
@Just_another_Euro_dude
@Just_another_Euro_dude 8 ай бұрын
00:03 That is NOT European style money either.
@simonerossi6074
@simonerossi6074 8 ай бұрын
So far both countries have committed investments only for the 57km base tunnel. The remaining 250km circa length of tracks will stay as it is.
@thomasmoll8822
@thomasmoll8822 8 ай бұрын
Cool... And where do the locals get on the train when they don't live in Lyon or Turin?
@carlomontecarlo7881
@carlomontecarlo7881 8 ай бұрын
It's neither "France's railway to Italy" nor "Italy's railway to France". It is an EU project that's being paid by both countries 🤦🏻‍♂️ and Italy is even putting more money than France! So why did you choose a misleading title that makes it sound like it's France building the project towards Italy?
@lucaluca1780
@lucaluca1780 8 ай бұрын
True
@Robc--jd6yh
@Robc--jd6yh 7 ай бұрын
France are contributing 85% of the money and it is built exclusively by French workers.
@carlomontecarlo7881
@carlomontecarlo7881 7 ай бұрын
@@Robc--jd6yh that's fake news & isn't even in accordance with the data provided in the video 🤣
@Just_another_Euro_dude
@Just_another_Euro_dude 8 ай бұрын
00:02 Says euros, shows dollars. Where's the logic? 26 billion euros is much more than 26 billion dollars.
@magnificumimperium8392
@magnificumimperium8392 8 ай бұрын
Awesome Project!!🎉 Aguri
@renicostareni2313
@renicostareni2313 8 ай бұрын
🇫🇷🇮🇹Bonjour Mensuer! Good morning brave constructions there in Franch and Italy. Greetings from Brazil!🙋🌎🤝
@mukan9
@mukan9 7 ай бұрын
There should also be undersea tunnel between Italy and Albania to connect the Balkans to Italy.
@roary0075
@roary0075 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the uk spent £92 Billion to not even build HS2
@diegomaugeri4038
@diegomaugeri4038 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't "over a decade of planning." It was over a decade of armwrestling the Italian Green Party who opposed the project on environmental impact grounds. Because for as much damage truck traffic causes, digging through a mountain is an ecological nightmare. I agree that Italy sorely needs this last stretch of connection with Europe but let's not pretend there is no downside to it.
@droLeoben
@droLeoben 8 ай бұрын
A very interesting topic, but I couldn't finish watching the video. Too many animations and effects, I felt like Thor when he was about to meet the Grandmaster.
@Deepthought-42
@Deepthought-42 8 ай бұрын
What is the betting this will be completed long before UK’s HS2 reaches Manchester and Leeds (now renamed HS1.5 due cancllation andonly going as far as Brirmingham
@capslocked7274
@capslocked7274 8 ай бұрын
you guys need to cool it with the sound effects, the whole swooshing all the time gets annoying really fast
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 8 ай бұрын
How will breathable air get into the tunnel? How will people flee to safety if there is an incident 20km from the tunnel entrance?
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 8 ай бұрын
The video, service tunnel every 330 meter, escape stairs, fume removal systems, and Air intakes.
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 8 ай бұрын
stairs to where? In some places the tunnel is hundreds of meters below the surface @@pedrorequio5515
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 8 ай бұрын
Turin, not Tureen. If you want to use the Italian name, it's Torino. #hyperforeignism
@HollywoodF1
@HollywoodF1 8 ай бұрын
“Turin” is an English name for the Italian city of Torino. You should not be trying to Continental-ify the sound of it. It is English. Turin rhymes with “fur in”- emphasis in the 1st syllable.
@linusfotograf
@linusfotograf 8 ай бұрын
It reminds me of when people say Copenhaaagen when it’s København in Danish
@federicobicego8612
@federicobicego8612 8 ай бұрын
this is either france's railway to italy nor italy's railway to france, you should be correct
@Gab157_Italy
@Gab157_Italy 8 ай бұрын
Mainwhile in the Val di Susa:
@donbeyer2293
@donbeyer2293 8 ай бұрын
Why are all the freight trains in the video American and Canadian?
@EuroScot2023
@EuroScot2023 8 ай бұрын
Because the producers are slapdash. As with their lousy pronunciation and subliminal graphics.
@jooproos6559
@jooproos6559 8 ай бұрын
In praxis it will be even more expensive..But it has to be build.
@superresistant0
@superresistant0 8 ай бұрын
I hope it reduce the car traffic in the south from France to Italy
@attiliodelloste4025
@attiliodelloste4025 8 ай бұрын
I do not get why Italy pays 35% and France 35% if the tunnel is prevalently in French territory 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mathieuruiz7924
@mathieuruiz7924 8 ай бұрын
france pays less than italy for the large tunnel because it has to build 2 other large tunnels to connect Lyon. On the overall project, France pays more than Italy.
@attiliodelloste4025
@attiliodelloste4025 8 ай бұрын
@@mathieuruiz7924 you’re right I paid more attention to the video and it’s explained. In the end, for the whole line, France pays more but Italy pays more for the international section of the line.
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 8 ай бұрын
@@attiliodelloste4025its not that Italy pays more for the international line. Think like this Italy and his buddy France want to make a tunnel between them, France pays half and Italy pays half(the rest is Europe) regardless of the natural boundries on the ground(because there is just more mountain on the French side). The bottom line is: there is no tunnel unless both sides do it, so the whole project is seen as a joint effort because both stand to benefit equally.
@passatboi
@passatboi 8 ай бұрын
Turin rhymes with urine in English. It’s not tur-EEN
@cidcid2054
@cidcid2054 8 ай бұрын
The Uk could have had a high speed railway network financed by the EU for a great part but they choose Brexit et with no money , they have cancelled everything. Since they are focused on their past glory, they will probably reinstate their stagecoach network.
@dogussahin
@dogussahin 8 ай бұрын
53kms of a tunnel? Thats insane
@Lucas_Antar
@Lucas_Antar 8 ай бұрын
35 years of an idea to be planned out is crazy.
@St0rrrm
@St0rrrm 8 ай бұрын
are we latins or are we not lmao
@EuroScot2023
@EuroScot2023 8 ай бұрын
It took over a century for the Channel Tunnel to be built, from conception to opening.
@PSVfanaat
@PSVfanaat 8 ай бұрын
Quote: "which will link Spain in the East to Hungary in the West..." I suggest you guys will take a new look at the map. You'll find it's the orher way around as Spain is in the West and Hungary in the East! 😁
@viktorandrej1303
@viktorandrej1303 8 ай бұрын
I love European infrastructure projects
@viktorandrej1303
@viktorandrej1303 8 ай бұрын
spain in the east and Hungary in the west xD
@sebastianmuller1210
@sebastianmuller1210 8 ай бұрын
Great project.
@ManuelJoaquimCosta
@ManuelJoaquimCosta 8 ай бұрын
Spain in the east and Hungary in the West? 8:21 to 8:23
@ReaperOfSouls83
@ReaperOfSouls83 8 ай бұрын
Awesome news 💪
@MatteoRomanelli-kl9fb
@MatteoRomanelli-kl9fb 8 ай бұрын
It’s been what? Almost 15 years that we are waiting for this track?
@jakleo337
@jakleo337 8 ай бұрын
Will 'they' celebrate it's completion with a dancing baphomet as at Goddard Base?
@linusfotograf
@linusfotograf 8 ай бұрын
Let’s hope so. Hail Satan
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 8 ай бұрын
Insanely expensive for the economic benefit but otherwise seems like a nice upgrade.
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 8 ай бұрын
Different countries have different view on this and it comes down to this: is it profitable? Almost always:No. But then you have to ask why they do it? It is a paradigm shift it changes how people live and interact. My country has a High speed program that was launched 2 weeks ago, it finally has the go ahead, still uncertain but the work is being done on planning and the contracts are being launched. It will cost a lot, but it will be worth it because the time savings will change how people look at the territory. I live near the largest rail link in the Country, and I am well aware how I benefited from it, and I know how even 20 min time savings would help my live.
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