FX-61 Phantom Upgrade - Speedybee F405 Wing - Setup and Install INAV 6.1

[@WaymondJr]

What a fantastic video! Thank you. Convinced me to purchase the F405! ...Appreciate the comments on keeping the mind sharp, the hobby, and overall positivity around this. I grew up around RC, of all types. Have enjoyed it my whole life. I'm 50 this year, and my father is 72. He's been flying since he was 17! Thanks again, keep climbing 😎

[@stonesrcchannel]

That's awesome to hear it's a great hobby always evolving. Thanks for the comment and the Speedybee f405 is a good FC I am considering purchasing another.

[@THERCSTIG-zn9to]

A great FC, the pros from me is the wireless connection and the app to configure the setting. For me personally I think this is one of the best inav boards on the market for value for money and ease of use. Great review

[@stonesrcchannel]

Yeah I agree I am pretty happy with it was certainly a good upgrade from the f411wing board I previously had in the plane. Thanks for the comment 🤠

[@dhozeralvesdelima5870]

Very good, I'm looking forward to assembling my speedybee controller here that arrived today, your video has already opened my mind, hugs, thank you very much.

[@stonesrcchannel]

Awesome that's great to hear I'm glad it helped. Happy flying.

[@skyforce1983]

Aw man we’re best friends now…the FX-61 is my favorite aircraft even better than my swordfish and all the airframes i got that’s my baby 💕

[@stonesrcchannel]

Yeah it's an awesome plane. I also wouldn't mind getting the bigger fx-79 as well. Thanks for commenting

[@AerialWaviator]

Nice build/upgrade and setup. Good work keeping clean and tidy. As part of preflight checks, doing a control surface check in a flight stabilized mode would ensure responds in correct direction. Not so critical here having flown prior. Would be more so if were setting up new servos servos. Looking forward to seeing the re-maiden and your thoughts on flying with the Speedbee wing FC. Thinking of doing a similar 411 FC upgrade.

[@stonesrcchannel]

Thanks for the comment! With weather permitting I hope to maiden 2 new planes and remaiden the FX-61 next week.

[@spartan3299]

I recently acquired an FX-61. I had wanted it or a similar big wing for quite a few years. I think I will fly it stock at first, but would really like to try a twin tractor mod if I can "Do no harm" in the process.

[@stonesrcchannel]

Interesting mod I would love to see how it works out if you do it

[@skyforce1983]

Just subbed to you only cause you have an FX-61🕺

[@Indonesia01ian]

Hi I already connect my speedybee F405Wing to my INAV Configurator in my PC I cannot flash my Firmware I already clicked SpeedyBee F405Wing and Firmware Version 7.0.0 I click Load Online Firmware then scroll down Click Flash Firmware but nothing happen

[@stonesrcchannel]

Could be driver issue have you downloaded the latest stm driver and installed it? Also make sure your running iNav configutator 7.0 as well. I would think it should install no problems.

[@abe101isabeast]

Same issue for me. I have drivers and can configure on inav6 but can’t flash to inav7

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@abe101isabeast interesting with these issues mine is running inav7 currently with no issues installing. I did have 1 issue which wasn’t connecting but it turned out to be the cable I was using. Maybe ask someone a developer in the iNav Facebook page to see what they say. I’m sure the issue must be something simple.

[@nandovelho1]

Valeu 👍 já inscrito

[@iamsoulcandy]

Do you by chance have a copy of your initial settings others could use to push into the CLI and get the setup you like? For those of us just starting out it would be nice to have the same basic default settings as you, same OSD, inputs/outputs, rth, takeoff assist. I’ve been watching you for quite some time and I would like to see what you use as your default setting in iNAV if possible

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@iamsoulcandy Thanks for watching I will see what I can do regarding this. Obviously to just copy everything from cli is not really recommended unless you are using the exact same plane and all hardware included weight would also need to be very close just to copy all settings. Saying this copying OSD and other basic setup should not be a problem. Do you fly an fx61?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Heres the OSD setup i use on it although now it runs a Walksnail Avatar HD FPV system now so these most probably will not work if your running any analog FPV system. I'll also do a video of the full setup on this plane and how its setup in INAV. # OSD [osd_layout] osd_layout 0 0 44 1 V osd_layout 0 1 1 10 H osd_layout 0 3 8 6 V osd_layout 0 6 1 4 H osd_layout 0 7 1 2 V osd_layout 0 8 24 1 V osd_layout 0 9 1 2 H osd_layout 0 11 1 16 V osd_layout 0 12 2 8 H osd_layout 0 13 48 8 V osd_layout 0 14 1 1 V osd_layout 0 15 47 7 V osd_layout 0 19 1 17 V osd_layout 0 20 42 17 V osd_layout 0 21 42 16 V osd_layout 0 22 26 3 V osd_layout 0 23 24 2 V osd_layout 0 25 51 10 H osd_layout 0 27 47 9 V osd_layout 0 28 1 4 V osd_layout 0 30 13 8 V osd_layout 0 31 1 2 H osd_layout 0 32 1 12 H osd_layout 0 33 47 4 V osd_layout 0 34 11 1 H osd_layout 0 35 1 11 V osd_layout 0 37 1 12 H osd_layout 0 38 1 9 V osd_layout 0 40 1 5 V osd_layout 0 48 1 6 H osd_layout 0 49 1 6 H osd_layout 0 54 1 10 V osd_layout 0 99 19 2 H osd_layout 0 108 9 2 H osd_layout 0 110 48 1 V osd_layout 0 124 25 7 H osd_layout 0 129 10 4 H osd_layout 1 0 26 1 V osd_layout 1 1 1 11 V osd_layout 1 3 8 6 V osd_layout 1 7 2 2 H osd_layout 1 11 1 13 V osd_layout 1 12 0 14 V osd_layout 1 13 25 3 V osd_layout 1 14 1 1 V osd_layout 1 15 25 5 V osd_layout 1 19 2 7 H osd_layout 1 20 19 14 V osd_layout 1 21 19 13 V osd_layout 1 22 12 1 V osd_layout 1 23 13 1 V osd_layout 1 27 24 4 V osd_layout 1 28 23 14 H osd_layout 1 30 1 7 V osd_layout 1 31 1 2 V osd_layout 1 32 1 10 V osd_layout 1 33 24 2 V osd_layout 1 34 11 1 H osd_layout 1 35 1 12 V osd_layout 1 37 1 8 H osd_layout 1 38 1 9 V osd_layout 1 40 24 6 V osd_layout 1 48 1 4 H osd_layout 1 49 1 3 H osd_layout 1 86 1 3 V osd_layout 1 87 1 4 V osd_layout 1 96 25 5 H osd_layout 1 106 2 3 H osd_layout 1 107 1 2 V osd_layout 2 1 2 12 H osd_layout 2 3 8 6 V osd_layout 2 7 25 1 V osd_layout 2 16 1 2 V osd_layout 2 17 1 3 V osd_layout 2 20 19 11 V osd_layout 2 21 19 12 V osd_layout 2 22 14 6 V osd_layout 2 30 1 9 V osd_layout 2 33 24 6 V osd_layout 2 56 1 4 V osd_layout 2 62 2 2 H osd_layout 2 63 2 3 H osd_layout 3 1 1 10 H osd_layout 3 3 8 6 V osd_layout 3 8 9 1 V osd_layout 3 11 25 5 V osd_layout 3 13 25 1 V osd_layout 3 14 1 1 V osd_layout 3 15 24 3 V osd_layout 3 19 25 6 V osd_layout 3 20 19 12 V osd_layout 3 21 1 12 V osd_layout 3 25 28 5 H osd_layout 3 27 24 2 V osd_layout 3 28 23 7 V osd_layout 3 30 1 10 V osd_layout 3 33 18 1 V osd_layout 3 37 1 11 H osd_layout 3 38 1 5 V osd_layout 3 40 1 3 V osd_layout 3 54 1 6 V osd_layout 3 129 10 3 V

[@shannonwong426]

Hi, I was confused in 11:47 where you said to upload the INAV 5.0 default settings. How did the box just pop up? How did you do it?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Hi, I hit the “load from file” button from bottom right to open the diff all file. Could have also been a bit of editing work to speed it up for the video which made it open fast. Hope that helped thanks for the comment.

[@shannonwong426]

@@stonesrcchannel hi, that’s bizarre because when I opened the file it just opened my desktop files on my computer.

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@shannonwong426 yeah that’s what it does then you select all your diff all files to import. The screen capture when I did the video never showed that part for some reason. Maybe that’s what’s confusing.

[@ledgerdc]

Do you know if this fc is compatible with spectrum Dsmx receivers?

[@stonesrcchannel]

I don't see why not but to be honest I haven't ever worked with dsmx receiver's. As long as inav or ardupilot support it, it should work.

[@vonSchwartzwolfe]

It should work with any receiver with SBUS output.

[@nmrlab3807]

Very nice setup, thanks for sharing your tips and tricks. I was thinking of installing an airspeed sensor, does it help the aircraft fly better in cruze & RTH modes?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Yeah it's supposed to help with the auto modes like rth cruise and waypoint missions etc during flights with winds.

[@istvanhorvath5173]

I was not able to install the controller exactly at water level. There are only a few degrees of difference. Do you think there is a way to correct this from software? There was an option for this in the ardupilot controller, but I couldn't find it in INAV.

[@stonesrcchannel]

I am not sure but I would think so somewhere in cli best advise is to try ask the iNav developers on Facebook they are very helpful!.

[@rutledgeking7652]

I’m not getting stick movement in inav, I set subs in receiver tab. I’ll check if unarticulated 2 was selected next

[@stonesrcchannel]

It probably has somethings to do with your setup in configuator. Are you running elrs?

[@rutledgeking7652]

@@stonesrcchannel no frsky

[@Indonesia01ian]

Hi is it okay if I didnt have airspeed control?

[@stonesrcchannel]

It's ok not to have it but I recommend it if you plan to fly in windy conditions as you can more easily see if the craft is flying into a headwind or tailwind. So basically your airspeed reading may read 40kph but your ground speed is 0kph let's you know your not moving at all but fighting a 40kph headwind. Very over exaggerated example but you get the point I hope. Also handy for tuning automated flights for the same reason.

[@Indonesia01ian]

Hi finally I bought the similar spec with you Speedybee F405 wing GPS Walksnail M10 Rx Matek R24D Caddx Ant Camera AKK race ranger VTX 3servo 1ESC 1motor This is my first time doing electronic As I saw in your video, we only soldered ESC, Battery cable, and PIN in the FC. Other we only plug to the PIN isnt? I am sorry I cannot see the detail connection in your video ​@@stonesrcchannel

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@Indonesia01ian yes that's correct everything plug and play other than ESC, battery cable and pins.

[@MrZeek101]

What a great build video! Jamie, nice and tidy. And yes I also question where the SD card goes but from watching other videos access to it looks pretty simple. Really looking forward to re-maiden and have you seen the new Hawkeye 4K camera? I think that would be pretty cool on something like this. Take care!

[@stonesrcchannel]

Thanks Robert, the position is the SD card is what has me worried as I don't want to keep taking the top board off just to access the SD card why they couldn't have designed it so it was in an easy spot to access? No I haven't seen the new Hawkeye 4k I will check it out thanks.

[@myssba]

Ok thanks

[@fpv_wing]

Hello friend! I need help with the f405 wing. I already have everything ready with INAV, I connect everything and the buzzer does not stop ringing. I assumed it was a lack of satellites, it keeps ringing after 10 sat., I really don't know what could be happening. Could you tell me what alert controls it has so that the buzzer doesn't stop ringing?. Thanks

[@stonesrcchannel]

Sorry but i can't exactly pinpoint why its doing that other than that it could be just a warning when the system cannot detect any radio link? Are you powering it up with solid link between receiver and transmitter? If you were than it could be worthwhile asking someone in the inav fixed wing group on facebook.

[@sahilmansoori3511]

When i hit the flash firmware option the fc just gets disconnected from computer and the com port also please help!

[@stonesrcchannel]

I have never had that problem before, sounds like it could be a driver issue or a bad USB cable. I believe if you try install firmware via WiFi as well it won't work. Have you got the latest STM driver installed? Are you using inav?

[@ryanomoso7173]

What to do with a fatal error on the blackbox onboard SD card?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Not to sure I have never had that happen. Could maybe try another sd card see if it fixes it.

[@jakocorrea708]

Excelent video, i was thinking about using it on my VTOL aircraft, do you know if it´s supported?

[@stonesrcchannel]

The speedybee f405 wing supports both iNav and ardupilot. I don’t think iNav supports vtol as yet but I’m sure they will eventually. Ardupilot would be my definite choice of firmware if I was to build up a vtol as it has preset setup for it. Thanks for watching.

[@vgiraldino]

My dear, how are you? I also have this same controller, but I'm not able to arm the motor with my radiomaster tx16se. Is there any specific configuration I should do? For my wing I'm not going to use GPS, just fly like a model airplane. They told me that I have to arm it (using arm mode) and then lower the engine stick and turn it to the right, but it didn't work. Do you have in mind what it could be? strong hug. Vagner

[@stonesrcchannel]

Arming your setup will depend upon which firmware you choose to install to the f405 either ardupilot or inav. In my case I use inav and arming is done via a switch once GPS has collected enough satellites. Which firmware have you installed on it? Thanks for the comment.

[@emiliomanuel5075]

Have you tried ardupilot firmware? I am having issue with F405 not holding it. INav is OK but not ardupilot.

[@stonesrcchannel]

No sorry I haven't tried it with ardupilot

[@emiliomanuel5075]

@@stonesrcchannel would you be able to? It drives me nutz!!! It will load and work until I power it off and on. Gonne. Not with INav, though.

[@stonesrcchannel]

Sound real weird I wonder if it has anything to do with the size of the firmware being installed? Could be possible ardupilot is larger than iNav? Just a thought. Possibly not enough memory although this is the first time I have heard of this issue on this board. It could worthwhile asking in Ardupilot forums to see what they say. Kind of why I stick to iNav as it’s more simple and does the job.

[@stonesrcchannel]

I did at one stage try and install ardupilot onto a matek f405 board not sure why but each time it kept crashing on install so I gave up and went iNav.

[@sahilmansoori3511]

hello ! Which gps did you use

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@sahilmansoori3511 it has the bn220 in it.

[@ramonmejias2178]

Hi do you know if I can use this flight controller with a futaba 16iz transmitter I want to use it with a fpv airplane please 🙏 help

[@stonesrcchannel]

Yes you should be able to

[@ramonmejias2178]

Do you know what antenna I would use on the flight controller I'm so confused

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@ramonmejias2178 you would need a receiver compatible with the futaba 16iz although I haven’t looked at that transmitter before but I assume there would be compatible receivers you can get which support at least sbus on their website. If the 16iz has a module bay at the back you could get a module which supports Express LRS which would be the way I would set it up.

[@stonesrcchannel]

The receiver/RX which has the antenna plugs into the flight controller. The flight controller doesn’t have an antenna if that’s what’s confusing you.

[@ramonmejias2178]

Thank you so much if you are ever in ny you have an open invitation to fly in our club seaview rotary wings

[@PromdiGirl04]

😊😊

[@michaelalix4943]

I'm curious, why do you feel the need for rave music in this informational video?

[@ryanomoso7173]

Can you use that without an air speed sensor?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Yes you can the air speed sensor is not really necessary unless you want to fly automated modes such as waypoints, rth etc. It is worth using as you can tell if your flying into a headwind or tailwind which is helpful for throttle control. I have other planes which don't use an air speed sensor and they perform just as well. I just can't tell if I'm flying into a headwind which could cause a stall if not enough throttle is applied

[@ryanomoso7173]

Thank you for the great info. I have a BE-220 GPS and it has only 4 wires for the output and my speedy bee fc has 5 wire pins for the GPS input, where do I plug the 4 wires of the BE-220?

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@ryanomoso7173 if your GPS has a compass built in normally has 6 wires, usually 4 is all you need if no compass. If your building a plane compass is not used only need + - rx and TX when wiring up rx to TX and TX to rx on flight controller.

[@kiwikenton.]

That' how you get ants apparently haha

[@Az-xi6jt]

Can build a drone using this flight controller? or just quadplane

[@stonesrcchannel]

Its built mainly for fixed wing plane

[@drifter1949]

Well basically I think you basically covered it all, basically.

[@Tattoonation88]

Very great Video, like this Setup. I have a little Question: How did you calibrate the right Side, where the Cable of that USB Part is connected? Also the Top Side is not flat

[@stonesrcchannel]

The right I calibrated with the bottom of the FC against a wall and the top I had it propped up with foam it came sitting in. Just make sure it is totally still.

[@Tattoonation88]

@@stonesrcchannel ah ok, thank you

[@m14srv]

So the micro sd could do with an extension cable 😂

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@m14srv yes indeed!

[@sptrader6316]

Alcohol will make removing hot glue super easy.

[@juancoleon4520]

music @ 11:45 PLEASE

[@juancoleon4520]

@ 12:31

[@stonesrcchannel]

Not sure I got the music from you tube that’s all I remember.

[@myssba]

Why did you choose İNAV?

[@stonesrcchannel]

Mainly because it was running well previously on that so most of my diff all settings were just copied across to the new FC . The thought did cross my mind to switch it over.

[@k1ortia]

Because compared to the complexity of Ardupilot, i-nav is a walk in the park...😉

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@k1ortia yes that as well.. In saying that i do enjoy ardupilot as well and have it on a couple of my planes but the simplicity of inav is hard to beat. At least for the builds i do anyway.

[@yucekaya1622]

I stopped watching at the 13th minute. At first I thought you were going to make a new configuration. I don't know the files you copied.😒

[@stonesrcchannel]

I kept some of my old diff all files as the craft was flying well with the old FC, but other than that it is a new setup just not as detailed if your new to INAV

[@ianhanrahan7985]

Hi mate. I need help. I've tried and tried, but I cannot get any signal from my TX to the FC, I'm using a Spektrum nx10 and an orange r620x reciver with sbus For my Fx-61. I have the sbus in the first port, then motor in s1 wings in s3 and s4. Uart2 is set to Serial RX Reciver type is set to serial, and sbus is selected in serial provider. But now I'm lost.

[@stonesrcchannel]

@@ianhanrahan7985 It sound like binding issue, are you sure the tx and rx are bound correctly?

[@ianhanrahan7985]

@stonesrcchannel Hi mate, yeah, I bound the them before I done the setup, but I'll do it again.