Carmy's New York Flashback | The Bear | FX

[@FXNetworks]

Could you handle the heat of these kitchens? 🔥

[@JuanChavez-ji9yy]

This show is amazing!

[@coleshupe6901]

As a late night Waffle House Rockstar, I could handle this and more. This is cake.

[@VFEA20]

@@coleshupe6901 I salute you Never seen a WH cook lose a fight

[@willtupholme378]

i did for years. its pretty close to this

[@nerdsdoitrarely1975]

Yupp. I have worked in many many kitchens, higher end to mom and pops. It helps to teach you to stay calm , and focused under pressure to get the job done how the Executive Chef wants it done. Because kitchens are chaotic af

[@abeljlugo]

"As long as you don't take it personally you'll be fine" The thing I shouldn't take personally:

[@DibbzTV]

Lmao true

[@itwontcomeout5678]

My life right now with my boss lmao

[@elmalifico3708]

We have a higher up in our company that likes to give workers a hard time. Once a co-worker told him “Hey man, you want to talk to me like it’s the 80s, then you should be ready to go out in the parking lot and handle it like it’s the 80s. No one gets fired, no one calls the cops.” He never talked to my co-worker in a demeaning way again. Co-worker still works there too.

[@hkmorhsi]

justifying psychopathy and abuse rituals goes a long way in society

[@sirmango5439]

As a newly qualified chef, you have no idea how much I hate that statement now, I swear it was exactly like this

[@UrbanosWorld]

16 years in the industry here. This scene had me in real tears. Any chef has had to work for someone whose voice still lingers in the back of their mind any time they make a mistake. This was hard to watch, but such a perfect portrayal.

[@dpclerks09]

Heard that, Chef. 👊💗

[@Inthatgoodway]

Heard

[@sawtooth808]

Yeah at one bakery I used to work at, the executive chef/owner was a graduate of the Gordon Ramsey/Marco Pierre White school of Charm and Etiquette (read: he was a hard case)

[@StraightFelon]

Bro it was cooking… not military service

[@Inthatgoodway]

@@StraightFelon incel alert

[@J3W3L-jewel]

when i first saw joel mchale i did not take him seriously but once he started talking i had to pick my jaw up off the floor. he really killed it

[@Strake01]

Wow, i had to go back and check because I didn't even recognize him!

[@nicolasgasquoine]

Agreed! Might be his best acting

[@alexhall4812]

yeah i questioned whether it was him or not and he absolutely murdered his part.

[@Liquidplasticable]

Oh my god I literally did not recognize him, and I've watched Community, and the soup when it was still on air.

[@ianstephenson9721]

@@Liquidplasticable It's the glasses and beard

[@markhayes5896]

I love how when you hear the line "you should be dead" Joel McHale's character isn't in view, suggesting that he might have said it or it could've just been in Carmy's head

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

Probably. Like a summary of what Carmy assumes the head chef thinks of him.

[@scott91575]

I have looked into this and it does appear his character and what he said was real. There are many stories of chefs being brutally mean including telling people to kill themselves, and this character is based on two actual chefs (the creator nor McHale has said which two but more than likely very successful ones).

[@jessjess23brooks89]

​@@scott91575Jesus. Yeah, no I don't want actual sociopaths preparing my food, especially at that price. Probably sours the dish lol

[@kassiogomes8498]

Why would you think it's his imagination? Just because a chracter doesn't speak on screen, it doesn't mean it's imagination.

[@markhayes5896]

​@@kassiogomes8498 Yeah, I don't know. I guess I just thought because his boss isn't in the frame when he says it and instead we just get a close up of Carmy, it makes it seem like Carmy has just internalised those thoughts, like his boss is saying it but it's also like his internal monologue. Maybe that's what the director/crew was going for, maybe not.

[@Snowy123]

What a good coworker, taking the time to inquire about a fellow coworkers problem and why it happened then going to motivate carmy to work faster! An inspiration to us all.

[@williamdiaz8599]

You joke but the reality is chef's like this are the main reason we get amazing chefs. These moments either make or break you

[@nicolaslabra2225]

@@williamdiaz8599 i believe there is a little movie called Wiplash about the whole "pressure and diamonds" BS

[@arnav9192]

@@nicolaslabra2225 They were taught like this, so A they think its the only way to be the best, B they think why should the newcomers have it easier than them. Its a bit backwards mentality and even in the show they show some chefs aren't like that eg. terri

[@blackcorp0001]

@@williamdiaz8599 if you can't take the heat ... stay out of the kitchen ... also if your food sucks

[@paperhat_boi]

​@@blackcorp0001I like there's a few comment section saying jokie "don't take it personally", emphasize the absurdity of it

[@Joetheshow15]

I love how this is filmed to accentuate McHales height. Makes him feel even more imposing

[@ianstephenson9721]

Yep. There's a 9 inch height disparity between him and Jeremy Allen White, and it absolutely shows here.

[@levirognejensen1745]

Wow I didn't even recognize that was him because the scene was so tense.

[@cheeseflag7995]

Even his shadow was imposing.

[@holydamien]

I lose track of how big he's getting.

[@Rita-s1z5e]

He looks like a predator/shark the way he came into the scene…this large, looking, imposing , silent presence 😬

[@nikosfilipino]

the amount of stress/ptsd i felt when her sauce wouldn't emulsify had me dropping bricks. My last chef never yelled but did that calm but controlled "im gonna effing kill you" thing which eventually led to panic attacks. This show is so freakin accurate

[@youmaboi5279]

You could see the panic on her face, but the camera doesn't linger on it. So the only people who would notice are the people who already know she fucked up, because they've been there at some point. It's part of why so many people who've worked in the industry love the show. Those small details that only they'd pick up on are all there. Brilliant.

[@NikoBleau]

12 years of cooking in JB restaurants and under former Michelin chefs, as well as hole in the wall and other family run spots. My partner had to hold me up straight after we watched this scene in ep2 together. Chain smoking on the balcony at 2am and only hearing their voice come through in broken phrases brought me to tears. My partner had to remind me that I'm not there anymore, we're home, we're safe. PTSD reaches beyond sudden trauma and battlefields. Printer dreams/nightmares are real, and they suck. Chefs, you are seen, you are heard, and oui chef we're going to make it through service. I love y'all so much. Remember, we're just hanging out with our friends and cooking dinner. ❤

[@keithmichael112]

@@youmaboi5279 he knew he can break her with just a word. the guy he would have to go to work on

[@richardrisvian938]

Maybe the hand blender would help

[@kyoki6620]

@@NikoBleau the stress of the kitchen is no joke definitely agree but don't compare it to war

[@aidankeohane3370]

Is there an Emmy for best 1 minute performance by an unnamed character? Cause Joel McHale deserves it. He was so good that I didn’t even realize it was him until the scene was over. One of the best shows of the year.

[@justonerandomguy6580]

Don cheadle won an award for a 1 minute appearance in falcon and the winter soldier, its possible

[@Lari_A]

The term you’re looking for is Guest Star, which is an actual nomination and category at the Emmys. :) I don’t know the particular criteria for the Emmys (if there’s a time requirement to be eligible. Like x actor needs at least 5 minutes of screentime in the show for example) but Joel here and Jon Bernthal as Mikey would be considered guest stars in the show by the general public! :)

[@walmartpimp2]

I really liked the one minute appearance from the stormtrooper who yelled “Traitor!” In The Force Awakens. In Spider-Man 2, I really loved Uncle Ben’s one minute appearance. So you are on to something, there should be “An Unforgettable Brief Appearance” award for TV and movies.

[@TheAlienGinger]

@@justonerandomguy6580 He was nominated, but he didn't win.

[@cameronhorack182]

Aka the “coffee is for closers only” award

[@FPSBloodlust]

Man, I have worked in kitchens for 15 years, in mom and pop places and in Michelin Awarded Restaurants under Beard Award winning chefs. THIS IS THE MOST ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE CULINARY INDUSTRY I’VE EVER SEEN

[@akiraperu1]

are you still in the good industry?

[@pyroAdapt]

Honest to God its true. I've worked in them since I was 16 so 8 years now, mostly mid tier places but everyone of them was a full functioning restaurant and most were failing like this one and every single thing about it is accurate, the lingo, the bickering, the issues, the health code violations lol its all there. I've never felt like a show was about my life more than this one.

[@willesco7416]

Got anxiety watching 😅😅

[@FPSBloodlust]

@@akiraperu1 yep, just in a different part of it now

[@TheGrave013]

It is a lot of stress working in the kitchen, but like working out you enjoy that rush of adrenaline the chaos of it all it's a good feeling. Sometimes I miss and wished I could have gone another 5 years in it, had to leave it for two reasons one was I became a alcoholic just to deal with the assistant chief and the stress, and two I had take care of my 2 year old at that time. I feel like a loser, cause I throw in the towel. I've had many people tell that I'm not, but to me cooking felt like my life the joy to see others eat the food you make, and I killed that part of myself so I could be responsible for my kid. I don't want pity, but instead all of you chiefs out there keep doing what you love.

[@xKingReyx]

I love that every "why" is a different question.

[@maritime7776]

It’s called the “5 Why’s”. The idea is that you can likely get to the root cause of an issue by asking “Why?” 5 times. It came from the automotive industry, I think Toyota.

[@drunkenn1nja]

Just finished this in one sitting, I’m so happy this show got cleared for a second season, roller coaster of emotions, the humor was tasteful and timed perfectly, and the gravity of the situations the characters deal with in their lives is just real and raw. Amazing 1st season.

[@obscurit_y4536]

june 22nd!

[@empireoflightz]

amazingly, even better 2nd season. One of the best seasons of TV I've seen in my life.

[@greendoritoman2464]

Haha "tasteful" and "raw" lol

[@BatmanHQYT]

They really did an amazing job making this feel like pure horror. The fine-dining kitchen is obviously cleaner and better lit than the grimy environment of The Beef, and yet it feels infinitely worse to be in.

[@tyzilla87]

It’s the contrast in comfortability for the chefs, where one environment is always on level 100 and screaming with tension, while the other is so relaxed, the chefs are actually laughing

[@affanfadillah17]

what is the beef 💀

[@geisenm]

The Beef is disorganized. The fine-dining kitchen is fascist.

[@LuigiGamesful]

​@@affanfadillah17 it's the name of the restaurant, are you dumb?

[@luf4rall]

@@geisenm fine dining system comes from the army

[@21Cayque12]

Having someone calmly tell you "you should be dead" is a million times more terrifying than have someone yell at you

[@purpleglitterladette]

Yeah because it's said with ill intent at least someone shouting could be seen as someone acting irrationally in the moment

[@zacharyrappaport5031]

I don’t think he actually said it cuz the camera didn’t show him when he said it so it could be perceived that chef thought it instead of actually being told it

[@JHernandez]

Joel McHale is such a good actor that I didn't even KNOW that was Joel McHale in that scene. My wife had to tell me afterward.

[@ianstephenson9721]

He looks so different with glasses and a beard

[@AngryFart]

@@ianstephenson9721 And the rug 🤣

[@boyohoyo1569]

i knew it was him, but i had to google to make sure, i have never seen him do such a role, took me by surprise, he is usually the likeable guy in whatever he acts in lol

[@fousse7]

Same, did not know it was him

[@rho008]

Admit it, you thought it Rainn Wilson from the office. I did.

[@eonsislept207]

I've been weirdly obsessed with this scene in particular, it keeps randomly coming to mind, compelling me to watch it. I finally figured out why; It's like an Eldritch Horror collided with a cooking show.

[@keithmichael112]

that's funny, I've watched it several times on here. it's got that "whiplash" thing of being somehow interesting in its cruelty

[@melancholicpineapple9761]

the symmetry/ stilted dialogue reminded me of wes anderson, esp the grand budapest hotel/french dispatch

[@Carcosahead]

sadomasochistic is the word you’re looking for

[@DontTakeThisSeriously616]

@@keithmichael112 that’s because the music industry and food industry are both inherently abusive due to the belief that it’ll lead to greatness.

[@innova4366]

The music and chanting really add to that feeling of dread.

[@jameskwon7617]

There are many things that are brilliant about this scene. The first is that you're not 100% sure if the head chef is actually insulting Carmy all at once, or this was Carmy in his mind imagining all the aggregate insults he's heard from the guy over his course of working there. The other minute detail is that I think one of the chefs that is briefly in the scene as the saucier frantically goes back to her station to redo the sauce, he's actually a real haute cuisine chef....I forget the name....and you can see him very briefly glance at the sauce with a slight look of "you're screwed". It's like he knows she's gonna be sent home. This is just perfect.

[@Chihuahuauno1]

This was either the CDC or EC, Camry is clearly acting as the Head Chef, expediting & final-plating @ the pass.

[@lessthanthreemetal]

This is exactly how narcissistic bosses operate. They maintain a level of strict professionalism in public but save the mind games for when nobody else is around

[@coolthings_1]

I'm still a rookie, 5 years behind the line, but still this scene hit hard. Head chef breathing down my neck, berating me cause a sauce wasn't reduced properly. It's a tough business, not for the faint of heart

[@nairinc9674]

my entire bieng clenches watching this scene

[@pennystocklocks]

Was a waiter for about 10 years when does a chef know when it's time to switch from being a nice guy to a d**k?

[@Mystrohan]

@@pennystocklocks I’ve been told it just happens one day and they don’t even notice it.

[@mijreed]

Sounds like a crap business honestly.

[@The-Big-Boss]

As a server new to the industry, you guys are the heart and soul of this industry. Y'all do not get the credit you deserve.

[@blacklove2497]

I watched the entire series and this was beautifully made. Down to the details and even the subtle details, you see the whole picture. Hope there’s a season 2 because this was absolutely amazing.

[@inthecloudz1272]

I'm anxiously awaiting for them to announce a second season

[@MoFire]

@@inthecloudz1272 they did

[@barnacleboi2595]

@@MoFire Rightfully so.

[@Zybezane]

if theres a second season I want to see more back story scenes like this

[@gabrielamaya2964]

To anyone who doesn't understand why Carmy apologized to Syd and Marcus after they screwed up, this is why.

[@MatiZ815]

I understand why he did. I just hate that Marcus and Sydney didn't.

[@TheKefferkid]

I've never worked in a place like this, but I was in the navy for 8 years. I was a submariner and the way the head chef whispers in his ear is the closest thing I've ever seen to how I was trained. I was hooked immediately.

[@dpclerks09]

This makes sense, because the Classic French Brigade that high-end kitchens run off of are based on "chains of command" that were modeled after the military.

[@aidankeohane3370]

I love how this is the scene that immediately follows up the first episode. Like you see the chaos of the original beef and then you see this place that’s run like the navy, with everyone responding in unison

[@juanesquivel3528]

the navy submarine is just as intense as working at a 3 star micheline restaurant. perfection and nothing less. thats why the usa navy is one of the best and why those restaurants have 3 michelin stars

[@tugboat6940]

What kind of watch did you wear?

[@TheKefferkid]

@@tugboat6940 I cant remember some POS I bought at the NEX.

[@chasecourtney4617]

The way chef talks to carmy reminds me of how I talk to myself sometimes.

[@ianstephenson9721]

It's how I talk to myself all the time

[@Trynottoblink]

Lmao Jesus Christ man learn some self love

[@chasecourtney4617]

Sometimes that inner voice is just louder

[@eventsdearboy]

And perhaps the way Carmy talks to himself guess. Hope you can get some support, you dont have to be stuck with this kind of internal self criticism. Learning about compassion focussed therapy (there's a book called the compassionate mind) might be a place to start.

[@eventsdearboy]

@@Trynottoblink helpful advice, perhaps you should be a therapist

[@pogo8050]

The acting on this show is truly spectacular. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a more believable portrayal of anxiety than I have here

[@rickaguilar9980]

I was watching this with my girl and stood up and started crying. Brought me right back to being an 18yr old kid at Charlie Trotters. They got this so right. It's astounding.

[@keithmichael112]

Charlie trotters, wow. you must have some stories

[@mscocorosie]

i went to school with Dylan Trotter and met his dad and ate at Charlie Trotter's for free once because they randomly decided to bring students in to try it. What was your experience working there like? was he mean to you?

[@tugboat6940]

Fuckin Charlie Trotters man lol

[@Sleepy7666]

Did you work there when Duffy, Achatz, or Elliott worked there? I was supposed to do a stage there then boom he died.

[@thejanglezclan]

The moment your girlfriend realized she had a girlfriend.

[@JonahsWail]

This is such a brilliant scene. The stark difference between kitchens is absolutely legit. If you’re a chef/cook who has worked in both environs it is so easy to relate. Not that I’ve worked NYC elite, but I’ve worked in kitchens all over the spectrum. The air is definitely different between a bar kitchen and a fine dining restaurant. Also that blink from White at the end after hands was perfect. That’s basically all you can do when you have an exec chef over your shoulder ripping into you.

[@21landog]

Reading all the comments and how people relate to this really puts into perspective how abusive professional kitchens can be. People really do put their heart and soul into this stuff and it’s sad their passion is taken advantage of in that way.

[@justinantwine1164]

It's no wonder so many cooks and chefs and kitchen staff develop substance addiction. There used to be a saying, probably still holds true - "if you can't get up with your normal dealer, just go to the closest restaurant kitchen."

[@billtheone3467]

@@justinantwine1164honestly I feel like it’s an endless cycle for these people . Like the ones who made it to the top levels probably had to deal with their mentors acting the same way…so they justify their own actions to their workers by saying “this is how I was taught and it worked for me”

[@jasonmesser84]

This feels like a community episode where The group got really into the cafeteria food, and jeff became the manager of the lunch line. So he starts acting like Gordon Ramsy

[@ianstephenson9721]

Jeff wouldn't do that, Abed would

[@mrkemrk]

This comment sounds like someone who never spent a moment in a professional kitchen. Not sorry. Bad read.

[@luf4rall]

More like Marco Pierre White. Gordon wasn't that brutal.

[@humanbeing8068]

@@mrkemrk really living up to the username. Bad read. Not sorry

[@nikosfilipino]

@@mrkemrk you're as sharp as a bench knife

[@asecretone]

McHale is underrated. He'll get his due as an actor one of these days.

[@asecretone]

@@NotVance 👌

[@keithmichael112]

@@NotVance thanks, I'm gonna check it out

[@alexwick3194]

Crazy how much he’s improved since community

[@TickleMeElmo55]

Much harder for those who are known for comedy or do sitcoms to land dramatic roles. This is mostly because their agents want them to earn their agency money via comedy (hence why agencies divide actors into TV and film for the most part depending on the genre of TV they do) while producers see them as mainly actors who do comedy. So if an actor whose first major role where three years in a sitcom wants to do their first movie produced by a major studio it'll probably be a comedy. The longer they stay in comedy the harder. Same thing with those in horror or thrillers.

[@keithmichael112]

@@TickleMeElmo55 that sucks because I'm always fascinated when I see a comedy person switch to drama. they usually kill it too, I think comedy is harder

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

I really love how this scene shows that abuse, particularly verbal abuse, doesn't have to be loud and violent. I've worked for and dated verbally abusive people who would absolutely tear me down in a calm, quiet tone.

[@Russiaisscum]

I love this show this was like how my parents used to verbally abuse each other before they got divorced

[@thecapone45]

That’s actually a good point. Loud “abuse” and “quiet” abuse. Never considered how this show displays both.

[@asurfersushichef]

This scene genuinely induces ptsd... I’ve been working in kitchens for over 10 years and have never seen such and accurate portrayal of this abusive, yet oddly rewarding environment. The movie “Burnt” with Bradley Cooper is the only thing that comes even close… I now have my own catering service. Before prep, I’ll sometimes watch this scene just to snap myself into perspective. Although I miss working in a fast paced environment, I feel grateful for the opportunity to work a service on my own terms!

[@n_v9386]

1:08 The stress of assembling a plate, shouting the table numbers, and listening to the head chef all once symbolized with the "sorry chef" in the middle of his announcements

[@hellfish2309]

Joel McHale and Oliver Platt are great guests to this show; I think Carmy is an unreliable narrator to this memory for a number of reasons, but that doesn’t mean the Chef isn’t closer to this than he is further away I like how the line cook/ saucier is disappointed when Carmy determines her sauce is broken, but when Chef dismisses her there’s fatalism to her leaving

[@dpclerks09]

You're wrong about Carmy being an unreliable narrator for this memory, respectfully. If you've ever worked in kitchens for an extended period in your life, or have spent at least a full year in a legitimate fine dining kitchen, you'll understand, and more importantly, feel, on a deep level, how painfully accurate this scene is, down to a lot of little details. It is a dramatization, of course, but there is a reason that this show in particular seems to resonate profoundly with industry professionals. Something to consider, at least.

[@hellfish2309]

@@dpclerks09 for one thing, Carmy is demonstrated to be an at least somewhat unreliable narrator elsewhere in the same episode; but moreover, the unreliable ≠ dishonest: is that flashback an truthful, candid depiction of a lot of high end restaurants? Yes; does the narrative of Carmen and how he reaches NY demand that this CDC of the flashback is this abusive? interpretable, seeing as Carmen’s drive is shown to be self-abusive, which concerns his sister… if I were arguing that the flashback’s unreliability disproves the very real caustic hierarchy of kitchen brigades, then yes I’d be wrong; but no one here is arguing that

[@dpclerks09]

@@hellfish2309 I'm not sure what hairs you're trying to split here, really. Your point about the cdc seems to be moot. It is necessary to show that experience in full, because it provides context for the world that he came from, contrasted to where he is now in the show. When you understand that your beliefs about yourself quite literally create your reality, and your experience of it, it is, in fact, necessary to show those personal interpretations of those experiences to make characters more relatable to other people. Unless you're trying to argue some other point that isn't readily apparent. What, in your opinion, does a "reliable" narrator consist of? If the feeling, and realness of a particular situation is accurately and faithfully portrayed in a given scene, then that would seem to qualify the "reliability" of the elements involved.

[@hellfish2309]

@@dpclerks09 carmen believes he can run a brigade (though not necessarily his brother’s) differently than how he was run in NYC, but that also implies as you say it that he sees himself as different than the abusive CDC; granted the context may be different the show demonstrates that Carmie can totally fall back into such caustic behavior, which is part of what invites the flashback to more interpretation - Carmie may have himself been more abusive than he remembers, but can’t see himself as such as the abuse he receives from the CDC and his perception of the chef occupy most of the memory

[@elonwhatever]

@@dpclerks09 Are you sure you are not the one splitting hairs?

[@jferrer68]

"Within cells interlinked?" "Interlinked."

[@TheReck12]

Definitely one of the best shows I've seen, it might not be for everyone but I love the angry psychological aspect of it. Same with Mr robot

[@sineadoconormcG]

I'm really glad I'm not the only one who saw similarities with Mr Robot. The atmosphere of the shows are really similar despite being about totally different things. Carmys monologue in the Al Anon meeting reminded me a lot of Elliott talking to Christa.

[@420yoloscopes]

Yes! I love both shows. Shot really well and both main characters are unreliable narrators. I don’t think the executive chef said all of these things in the moment.

[@tonyferra2134]

I’m trying so hard to like this show but some of the dialogue is just so stupid. I really only watch it for Carmy and Sydney now. Mr robot on the other hand is one of the greatest shows of all time.

[@panagiotiskaragiannis1919]

As a cook I can confirm this is absolute reality in Michelin star restaurants all over the world

[@JuanChavez-ji9yy]

This scene gave me flashbacks of my old chef. Those were the days

[@mumble_core491]

I bet they were

[@eclipseknight8103]

Same bro

[@Big_AlMC]

Them applebees days were rough eh?

[@JuanChavez-ji9yy]

@@Big_AlMC and 🧇 🏠

[@TickleMeElmo55]

@@Big_AlMC 😂😆

[@mrigaanksingh425]

I love how this scene is shot going from a pristine clean and organized setting to a dirty greasy and comparatively partly disorganized setting and ironic though we aspire our kitchens to be the first, but when they cut back to Carmy making the sandwich it felt a big relief as if the later was comforting and just thinking about that is frightening incredible writing and direction

[@madmikl]

Food has never been so terrifying before

[@WillaminaCooper]

It has actually been just like this. . . . forever. Think back to this scene the next time you send a dish back for a petty reason.

[@yashaleo7]

Great series. Gave me anxiety & near panic attack… but yeah great series 🤣

[@joshphillips1526]

Dude......this show.........actually gets it and much love for Joel mchale always a treat

[@sciencefantastic]

It’s a dude preparing salmon and it’s one of the most anxiety provoking things I’ve seen in a while. I need to watch this show.

[@joseramirez-hh2sw]

This is my comfort scene..... I become stressed and THIS is my comfort scene. I'm not alone on this right? I feel like it has to be pretty common.

[@kei7540]

I just saw for the first time yesterday it hits. no matter how hard you try someone will still try to tell you you're not good enough

[@1snorelax]

...your not I even called work my home when I was talking with a friend restaurant life is no joke and a game for the insane

[@SkyIaam]

What absolutely does it for me in this scene is that Carmy seems so jaded in regards to the comments. But then you see his unnatural blinking and the small hesitation before he sets the plate of salmon aside. That hesitation underlines it all for me, if he would’ve kept working at a high pace the impact of the scene would not be as powerful.

[@lauragrace101]

I have PTSD from working in this industry for 9 years. I’ve never seen it captured so accurately. It’s triggering but almost cathartic.

[@btaylor7569]

Didn’t even realize that was Joel McHale until now. Dude was unrecognizable, really amazing and surprising.

[@Phentes]

I’m saying 😂😂

[@blaze14ZX]

This scene made me never want to work in a kitchen like this. Joel McHale delivered this so perfectly I wanted to punch him so badly by the end of this scene.

[@jasonmesser84]

Funny, it had the opposite effect on me. I think I need therapy

[@blaze14ZX]

@@jasonmesser84 oh quite you definitely do

[@susanmcdonald7605]

Thats Joel McHale? Holy cow, agree with you

[@blaze14ZX]

@@susanmcdonald7605 yeah that's him in all his bearded intensity.

[@applemoneroy7371]

@@jasonmesser84 😅😅 I think you might have a maso kink or some…

[@davidcarbonara825]

Dark Jeff Winger. I'm here for it.

[@ianstephenson9721]

But he has both arms?

[@CrisRonnie]

The best 2 min sequence i have seen in a long long time! Brilliant!

[@irisvargas5921]

This scene really ties it all together in the finale of Season 2

[@BadAnalogy91]

With the way this scene is shot, I find myself wondering how much of it is an actual memory. Obviously, Chef David was a tyrant and he made Carmy's life a living hell, but hearing him while the camera's focused on Carmy and the food it raises the question whether he really said all those things or if some of it are Carmy's own insecurities given voice. Great stuff!

[@hamzafox863]

I’m an airline pilot and after we qualify to fly a certain type we go through something called line training where at the start of your career you fly with the same instructor Captain for a few months and learn what the operation is like and actually fly as a co-pilot under supervision. The things you’d hear from these instructors in that exact tone still give me chills when I remember them. This scene brought me back to some of those flights that were just like that to the point where I felt the panic / humiliation in my stomach while watching it, it was terrifying.

[@Clarkaraoke]

People don't get it but this has actually happened to me in the back of the house before. Many times. People don't get that. It scarred me for life and just like Carmy I get flashbacks of it all the time. Sometimes in a restaurant the hardest part is the people you work with or the people you work for. Accurate depiction of a kitchen imo

[@alechoes]

So accurate. I was holding my breath during this scene and I cried when it transitioned back to the present. I can relate to Carmy so much. This scene only triggered my PTSD.

[@hwfstcnutypthsonurkb]

Jeff really transitioned from being a lawyer to a chef

[@jon_warburton]

Zach Braff? How dare you...

[@TheLowerTechs-lf1ie]

Plus he was hosting “The Soup” to make ends meet when he was getting the restaurant started!

[@solitary2]

“Why…? Why…? Why…? Go.” Wow

[@EscargoTouChaud]

Even though Carmy is a hothead, he is being quite warm and patient when he teaches others. When he explained how to make the sauce with capers, and how he told Tina the onions needed to be browner. To me, that showed that this experience had not made him an imitating psycho.

[@andrewcampbell3451]

My theory why carmy is warm and patient when he teaches others is what my first sous chef told me that "you teach your staff the way you wish you were taught"

[@jasonmesser84]

Classic Winger

[@LynnHarrod]

When he asks her “Why?” Her first two responses are excuses. Unacceptable. When she finally says it was her fault, he let her go. The fact that a simple “go” was enough for her to understand it meant GTFO is nuts. The pressure for perfection must have been nerve-wracking constantly.

[@gildanbadriv3225]

This show is beyond perfect.. what a superb acting and script

[@ShinRyojin]

I didn’t think I would find myself being scared shitless of Joel McHale, but here we are.

[@andgalactus1]

I mean I've had chef's call me all kinds of names but that guy would literally be reported to the labor board these days for saying those kinds of things. I'm glad things are changing.

[@ufinc]

Can you not handle this? Is it too much for you?

[@liamcephus9687]

Oh Jeez don’t tell me that. Skinny jeanification of everything lately. What’s wrong with high expectations and exacting standards?? We all just want mediocrity?

[@JT-ho6rp]

@@ufinc Working conditions getting better are a good thing. Hope that helps. 👍

[@mrct592]

@@liamcephus9687 "Not being verbally abused on the job is woke now."

[@Chewwyp]

@@mrct592 yes, and because the next generation can't understand why we will never see the greatness of the past created again.

[@okerkojak3965]

You know this show is serious when they can make Joel McHale freakin menacing and scary.

[@mrmisterMJ]

If you ask chefs why they treat their underlings so poorly, they'll say it's because they were treated the same way when they were underlings. So "rite of passage" or some other BS that a lot of industries use to excuse such behavior.

[@1snorelax]

Yet you stick around

[@neoasura]

@@1snorelaxYou stick around so you can change it for the better for the next generation. It was like that in my trade as well, the old salt Journeymen used to force apprentices to do menial tasks like file a metal block into a round ball, then file it back to a perfect square again. But a lot of us don't treat our apprentices like that anymore, we want them to succeed and its a different generation.

[@mfdeerhunter]

Those piano keys in the beginning really set the tone for this scene

[@13wargo]

How'd they get my inner monologue to play the head chef?

[@Inthatgoodway]

That means you have the gift. Use it. Kill your next service.

[@1snorelax]

lmfao 😂 dawg I thought I was the only one

[@melo_maniac_studio]

This is the moment when chef David became Terence Fletcher and Carmy Berzatto became Andrew Nieman

[@jorgenietoontiveros137]

I guess Jeff finally seized the day!

[@christianmendoza8107]

If you see kitchens with cooks wearing old school toques, you know that s*it gonna be toxic

[@Vanilla_Bushwhacking]

It's weird that this show is billed a comedy when it's a realistic recreation of the anxiety that comes with being a chef.

[@BiggerBossN313]

It’s both tho?

[@hiadrianbankhead]

@@BiggerBossN313 I did not ever once get comedy vibes from this show. I got grief vibes, drama, serious hardcore reality vibes. There are people dealing with their trauma with dark humor, but I don't classify that alone as therefore comedy.

[@heathersmith4042]

@@hiadrianbankhead yeah, when i saw the comedy listing i was expecting something radically different than what i got. they honestly should change the label. it's an amazing show, but having it listed as a comedy will both turn away viewers who are looking for something like the bear and don't want a comedy show, and will pull in viewers who want a comedy and aren't in the right headspace for something so intense.

[@bhikkhu]

That chef is streets ahead of Carmy...

[@nolanrux7866]

Basically this is how Marco Pierre White treated Gordon Ramsay when he was a Sous Chef. Not screaming or yelling, just cutting deep into your soul. These kinds of chef are ruthless.

[@davidortiz3094]

They created the best chefs in the world.

[@patmustard1511]

@@davidortiz3094 Did Kylian Mbappe get abused to become a world class footballer.

[@thecapone45]

The more I watch this the more I’m convinced the Chef didn’t say this to him. He imagined it. Look at how many times he blinked his eyes as if to snap back to reality. And he finally did- when he’s back at The Beef, saying “HANDS!” Just like his inner voice told him to say “hands” moments before.

[@AcerAz115]

Its so sad cause working in low end restaurants, constantly being be littled for being the youngest and graduating from a culinary school i was always told my degree is fake and it doesnt prove anything no matter how hard i worked and how good people said my food was... when i finally broke out and started woeking in higher end restaurants i thought things would change... it didn't... in fact it was worse. I'm sure there are great kitchens out there with great chefs and owners and staff but tbh after 12 years in the industry i have yet to find it. And i know to some 12 years is not a lot considering the amount of time and effort i have seen some people put into this community but I'm tired... maybe i wasn't meant for this idk im not having self pity or at least i dont think i am but it has taken a toll... as much as i do love working in this industry after 12 years i had to take a break. Change careers for a bit. Maybe one day I'll go back.

[@nichenetwork9817]

Don't work at shitholes. Simple.

[@AcerAz115]

@@nichenetwork9817 lmao yah if only if it was that simple buddy

[@thesosig8918]

Its a good thing to step back and analyze everything, and I applaud you for that and especially taking a look at other careers, but don’t let anyone take away your love and passion for food no matter if its 12 or 20 years

[@srnabooz]

Everytime I feel bad I come back to this scene to remind myself I'm worthless ❤

[@ahuachapan2]

this is what I told myself when I prepare my super scramble eggs.

[@MrCableguy222]

The way I screamed when I saw the Head Jeff. See what I did there? I’m so sorry 😂

[@dookeland8]

I worked with multiple chefs like this and no lie we had to be separated multiple times because I wasn’t guna let anyone talk to me like that. I absolutely hate head chefs and am so grateful everyday I’ve gotten out of that toxic industry after 13 years

[@kalvindotcom]

What did you end up doing?

[@dookeland8]

@@kalvindotcom have a nice career in the military and it’s less stressful than restaurants surprisingly

[@samuelcooper8488]

Anyone outside of the culinary industry will never understand why this is so triggering. Everyone of us has someone that used to come into our kitchen and snatch our soul on a daily basis and the only thing you could say was "thank you". Love all of the fake tough guys saying "I'd never let anyone talk to me like that". You have no idea what the culture is and honestly you wouldn't last a week.

[@carythompson1147]

fact

[@1snorelax]

all of this I had horrible chefs in my past 12+ years in cooking even had a chef say "I love faking a sickness to get out of work!" I had suffered a heart attack on the line due to energy drinks spent 5 years there but with hate for him only stayed cause of my crew always looking out for me

[@donmon808]

well if they won't put up with it they won't last a day

[@TheSirFinlay]

Why'd you do it then? You mean to tell me, abuse like this is the only way to motivate people to cook good food?

[@1snorelax]

@@TheSirFinlay ...it's a fucked up world 🤔

[@dknight905]

Being a short guy this really hit home

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

Eh the guy here isn't even that short, more average at 5.7 ish while the other guy stands at an impressive 6.4 5.7 and a half to 5.10 is just about the most common hight for guys while being above 6 is extremely rare with only 14% of all people having hights like that

[@veriveryluvr]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@doctordice2doctordice210 he’s not that short but people would still consider him to be on the shorter side. but joel mchale is really tall though i’m ngl 😭

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

@@veriveryluvr oh he is 6.4 is like an entire head and a half above most people on earth XD

[@Vesperitis]

One way to interpret this is that Joel McHale’s character is entirely a figment of Carm’s imagination, and he represents the worst parts of his personality: petty, hateful, bullying, destructive, and unforgiving.

[@lessthanthreemetal]

He also showed up as a mirage in the last episode

[@elevers]

Thanks. I cooked for 20 years and now I'm back in 'Nam.

[@Whatisvr]

the fact that this happens and the fact people are willing to put up with it is beyond me

[@neoasura]

For real, there are better paying, less stressful gigs.

[@RooKangaRoo]

1:50 This guy and Robert Pattinson have this look down pat

[@miquonk]

The Whiplash of cooking shows

[@nelsonmarehalau2237]

Heard, Jeff...Winger.

[@PLou-ne9jb]

15 years in michelin star kitchens. That is it.

[@Nicodeme89]

Day in, Day out. Programmed like a Robot to do the same thing. And to take all this verbal abuse while keeping a Poker Face planted, the silent car ride home, finally relief and just burst into tears.

[@Big_AlMC]

Weak. Change of occupation

[@Nicodeme89]

@@Big_AlMC your mom teach you any manners, she didn't love you enough or she dead? 💀

[@Big_AlMC]

What you cry when dad left too?

[@Nicodeme89]

@@Big_AlMC cried when yours molested you with Priest and Alter boy roleplay?

[@rxcmxrt]

@@Big_AlMC After seeing a bunch of comments you're such a loser its pathetic. Trauma isn't necessary to make it, you can work for chefs that are critical without breaking you as a person and if you literally have to be broken as a human being to get better, maybe it's you that's not cut out for it

[@Lovalon_]

Joel Mchale should've won an Emmy for this scene alone! Never seen him play a character so dark.

[@X.Calibur]

We need more of Joel’s character in season 2. No joke he would make a great villain.

[@sachemofboston3649]

I think season 3 or 4 after the restaurant has been established would be better

[@X.Calibur]

@@sachemofboston3649 I would agree with that. Let’s hope it survives till then.

[@SeyhawksNow]

Who hasn't at one time or another felt like they had a boss like this...

[@1snorelax]

I had this boss every restaurant I worked in to the one I am in now is way different

[@theheckwithit]

I love cooking, I'm glad I didn't pursue it as a career. I couldn't get into this show because it was so stressful and reminded me why I never pursued cooking at a higher level. If I wanted to be yelled at and belittled for something I like doing, then maybe I'd try it.

[@ellacarolinexo]

Pursued a career in cooking during the time this show aired and let me just tell you you made the right choice. This industry is soul crushing.

[@Gypsycamile]

Classic Winger !

[@nixonperez9594]

This is like the exact opposite of what ratatouille is trying to portray in their film, but i can’t help but compare that to this 😂

[@marykay7878]

i really hope we get more flashbacks in season 3

[@ryanb8232]

I never worked in the hardcore food industry but I worked in aircraft maintenance and the man training me was one of the most brutal individuals I’ve ever had the displeasure of knowing and seeing this kind of villainous mentorship brought back all kinds of memories I’d rather not relive🤣

[@joshbest1929]

The amount of flashbacks I get from this…

[@ianstephenson9721]

Joel in this scene is my inner monologue basically all the time

[@keithbarker1934]

I find as much joy in the “art” of cuisine as I do in ice sculptures.

[@KrillSSBM]

My partner told me they think the chef didnt tell him any of this and that this is just how carmen visualizes himself.

[@pennystocklocks]

Yeah that was my original thought...at least the last things he was saying