G1 Elitists are Insane.....

[@Chrisjaam]

What do yall think of this issue ❓️❓️❓️

[@Alcastar607]

I don't stick to just g1, bayverse, etc. , I try to have a bit of everything. So personally, I believe that no continuity is better than the other. Each continuity has its own strengths and weaknesses. Being an elitist about any continuity is just another form of gatekeeping. Gatekeeping destroys fandoms.

[@SQWAUKSQWAUK]

They aren't real transformer fans if they're like this.

[@orionpaxproductions2702]

Aren't they kinda the reason almost everything is g1 inspired?

[@coreywong6229]

My start was g1 and beastwars. Beastwars is technically part of the g1 family, but I really do not care about this whole elitist take. My take is simple, I am happy there are fans of all ages in this group. I am happy fans of other branches gets a cool set of figures. Heck the only reason I got back into collecting was a lot of the toys we got have become almost show accurate that isn't the price of a master. Thats what called to me. Its saddens me we got to this point because I love hearing about someone expierinces with this long franchise, spanning what 4 decades now? Thats impressive and should be cherished.

[@WaimeaMonster24]

G1 Elitists single handedly are the problem with transformers. literally Demanding the entire franchise regress into those stupid boxy bucket head designs that resemble how robots used to look back in 80s sitcoms when they would cook dinner for the two rambunctious kid character's, like Zorbo or Rosie the robot. and there go Hasbro feeding off of the prophets and ruining their market going forward by regressing away from modern robot feeling character's like Bay-verse or Prime and making stupid G1 homage design's that look literally as cheap a concept as the cartoon they came from, and also completely sterilizing their creativity with this formula also. (example) I used to watch Transformers Prime and wonder what kind of unique design's Arcee would have in future projects, and now every time I see her she has those same Freakin Princess Lea buns and backpack, leave a like if you miss movie Ironhide.

[@snoot6629]

I was a g1 elitist myself before and a youtube video here actually changed my mind when it comes to transformers design and just art in general , its titled "weird art, mixed media & unrestricted access to the internet" , now I cant stop obsessing over beast wars and beast machines designs , and currently watching TF armada , its quite liberating and fun!

[@Jazmission]

Scary thing is that some prime fans are slowly becoming like them

[@RobbyGill-en2uw]

Now we're talking something different Yeah prime and bayverse fan are becoming insane

[@Jazmission]

@@RobbyGill-en2uw I haven't experienced the insane side of Bayverse fans yet

[@Haiiko581]

I thought they were already

[@mr.timusproductions116]

I've seen that for myself-

[@dkkanofkash8798]

@@Jazmission Tell them you like the reboot movies more than the Bayverse movies and you will unleash hell.

[@yukonyeti6296]

G1 fans are not 'elitist'. The other fans are toxic and elitist against 'Geewunners'

[@braydenpage1808]

Only G1 matters fanatics when they realize Transformers would've died over 20 years ago had it not been for Beast Wars and the Micheal Bay movies: 😲

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

Beast wars and anime, Bay didn’t save the franchise but helped propel it to a much higher position.

[@braydenpage1808]

@Xeno-The-Wanderer isn't that helping save it though? Transformers wouldn't be nearly as big if not for those movies. The movies brought in tons of people who wouldn't have even known about Transformers otherwise. The movies absolutely helped save it by elevating it from just a toy brand with TV shows to a multi billion dollar franchise.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

@@braydenpage1808 saving and propelling aren't the same thing. a thing can be doing very well but a block buster movie can propel it to heights never seen before. saving implies it was in danger of falling out of relevancy like pre beast wars and Cybertron toys were selling crazy amounts. none of the UT struggled with toy sales

[@braydenpage1808]

@Xeno-The-Wanderer yeah, makes sense. I see what you're saying. One of my favorite toys growing up was Energon Megatron. That's the only Unicorn Trilogy toy I actually remember having. Such great toys came out then.

[@charjrperalta1658]

​@@Xeno-The-Wandererbeast wars saved transformers in the 90s the bayverse saved transformers for the 2000s and so on

[@King_Shockwave_]

I think we are the most confusing fandom ever. We have gangs like idw fans marvel fans g1 fans bayfans and etc

[@SQWAUKSQWAUK]

We even have furry fans I really want a new BW Neo Moon figure or Sharpclaw figure. Sharpclaw may be a fursona.

[@Coinstudiosbackup]

​@@SQWAUKSQWAUK your kidding right? 😃

[@jo-gl8hf]

I don't man I think the star wars fandom is more confusing.

[@mymaskofshame]

I'm a G1'er but i don't mind all the other series. It's just with toys I collect mainly G1 only.

[@maxweII_demon]

whether people like it or not, the Michael Bay version of Bumblebee is the most widely recognized by the general public. Beast Wars was objectively a success. The Unicron Trilogy laid the lore groundwork for years. Studio Series is massive. Prime and the Aligned stuff is THE interpretation for an entire part of the fanbase. Animated has previously been referred to as "the perfect reboot" and Hasbro isn't going to collapse just because someone doesn't want to buy a non-g1 toy.

[@MutantsInDisguise]

Agree on all this, except the aligned continuity was a total mess.

[@baxterstockman2191]

well yeah because it was pushed down the general public throat......

[@mohammadhossain9608]

@@MutantsInDisguise Well they did put the groundwork like the 13 primes, Primus and Unicron, Megatron getting inspired by Megatronus, More into Prime and Megs relationship, (Bayverse started it but never expanded in the films, only in the comics). Megatronus killing Solus.

[@nathawayhoa1971]

I pray every day that hasbro will acknowledge energon again in a more meaningful capacity than just core class megatron.

[@supermariovaughn1515]

G1ers when they realize the original movie wasn't actually that good and mostly made just to promote the new toys

[@Arrivederchi683]

Fax

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

The 86 movie is just an 90 minute music video. It’s fucking beautiful

[@michaelpapp5518]

Yes, it was made to sell toys. That’s all the TF franchise is about. Doesn’t mean the 86 film isn’t a blast to watch. Which, in turn, doesn’t mean the criticisms levied aren’t invalid. The 86 is flawed fun for me.

[@baxterstockman2191]

I'll take it over the live action shit any day

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

Transformers one is honestly better than the 86 movie

[@julianirwin1173]

Those “G1 fans” need to realize that beast wars is part of G1

[@TitaniumBuilder8]

I mean, Beast Wars is a spin-off/sequel of G1…

[@julianirwin1173]

@ I’d call it a prequel/sequel to G1, considering when it takes place 🤣

[@bigconvoy9850]

huh, proves that G1 is superior once again.

[@user-cp8nk7yq1s]

​@@bigconvoy9850welp, another geewuner in the comments, get life, child

[@weebvsreviewch9484]

​@@bigconvoy9850g1 is a mistake even hasbro made extra seasons to make up for the Movie 1986 mistake Offlining the main casts and villains to make way for new Bots since day one Hasbro is greedy

[@Mefilas._intrepidus7]

What do Pokémon fan and transformers fan have in common They both have geewunner who can’t accept newer generation of their favorite franchise and let nostalgic affect their logic

[@ZZtheDark]

Luckily, I watched the new Pokemon anime and it's pretty good surprisingly. It has that mixture of Indiana Jones plus some 80's Disney cartoons that we're all familiar with. It's just that its in a modern setting but that adventure style is still timeless.

[@Goof-Bot]

Don’t forget the SpongeBob fandom

[@dxingchenify]

Bayverse lives Matter. Stop Geerunners Hate.

[@13Primes101]

My G1 will forever be the Bayverse. That’s just what I grew up with and no other continuity will replace that.

[@notliked42210]

My fight or flight senses went off as soon as I saw that thumbnail

[@Samuel_Loegan]

What the? I love G1 and I also love Beast Wars. What's going on with them? XD Also, unfortunately the G1 elitists ain't the only ones. The Bayverse elitists as well exists

[@JT-pr8mi]

G1ers when megatron( a 30ft robot) doesn't transform into a pistol anymore 😡

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

Imagine if your highly feared arch nemesis turns into a tiny pistol 💀

[@baxterstockman2191]

@@EmRizzlemrfunnyman Killed More Autobots in that tiny gun than any other Megatron on screen has ever done.

[@MS_FORTUNE_BEST_CHARACTER]

I ain't a G1er, But I want a Megatron that Transformes into a Gun, And I hate that there going to make his 86 figure into a Tank, I would rather Him be non transforming.

[@perfectlybalanced8995]

G1 maybe my favorite but it’s actually thanks to the first Micheal Bay film from 2007 that got me into the franchise to begin with. The G1 cartoon, Beast Wars, Animated, Bayverse, WFC games, Prime, other live action films, and One are all amazing in different ways (Yes I’d even go as far as to say I actually enjoy Earthspark)

[@hernehaugen6878]

Honestly as a lifelong Transformers fanboy, I gotta say my favorite entries are G1, Transformers Prime, the first three Bayverse movies, the Armada Trilogy, and I got a soft spot for EarthSpark

[@Arthus850]

Some Bayverse fans are becoming like that now. Not too long ago I saw someone who didn’t like any other version of Prime but the action movie hero from the Bay films. He even said “Strong enough to be gentle” isn’t Optimus Prime anymore.

[@MutantsInDisguise]

The G1 lore is severely flawed, mainly the very first cartoon and its Japanese-original sequels. But, if not for G1, BEAST WARS and the IDW comics (2005 - 2018) wouldn't be possible at all. Suprisingly, despite IDW taking visual cues from G1, it had its own identity, straying from your average good-vs-evil, enriching the lore with politics, character development, and worldbuilding, thus being not only my favorite Transformers comics to date, but also one of the best Transformers storylines ever created. BEAST WARS, despite aging like the milk, still holds up to this day because, unlike the original cartoon, it was a wise choice by Mainframe to restrict themselves to using the characters they were only able to work with, making them fan favorites, like Optimus Primal (MY Optimus forever, BTW), Dinobot, Rattrap, and (my personal favorite Maximal) Depth-Charge. The original RiD (CAR ROBOTS) served as the first reboot to the brand after BEAST MACHINES failed, and revived it successfully, leading to the Unicron Trilogy. For crying aloud, even if I'm far from the biggest fan of the Bayformers saga, those movies still have their benefits, including turning once unknown characters like Ratchet and Barricade into major characters of the franchise, even being influential to my favorite Transformers cartoon ever: ANIMATED . Finally, Impactor, known only to comic book readers, was one of the very good things about the dreadful WFC trilogy by Netflix despite being G1ish. The original G1 cartoon is just OK, paling in comparison to other series, like, for instance, BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES.

[@Seeker_Blade]

I feel like every community that’s been around since the 80s has these groups. Gen X especially has trouble liking new things

[@jacksykes4680]

I have been a fan for four years now and I love all kinds of eras of these robots but as an artist I like drawing the G1 designs or something similar because they are a lot easier to remember

[@LarySeeAircraft]

I hate how everything has to be a G1 homage like can we get some actually new and intresting designs? Like the wave fillers of the movie lines. Brand new unique characters and designs not the same G1 inspired Optimus prime for the 30th time in the year. Please

[@Gregory_ferrandis]

I’m a massive fan of G1 but I so agree those *creatures* have ruined the G1 community, heck even the whole Transformers community!

[@alexanderto9778]

One thing I’ve realized about many G1 fans is that they *hate* change If a character doesn’t look like exactly how they looked like in G1 they’re gonna shit on it

[@audiobrainiac]

I’m a 41 year old Millennial. I grew up with G1 and love it SO much. But I also was on board with other versions over the years and love them too. I think G1 fans are bitter because G1 has never been fully realized into live action movie franchise (properly) and some of them can’t cope without being obnoxious to younger generations. Particularly young Gen X and Older Millennial men can get REALLY nasty. Believe it or not, I’ve left social collector groups over it because their attitudes gave way to other types of hate, and it was encouraged BY the group admins! It’s a societal conditioning problem but I won’t get into that here. I don’t tolerate that crap and no one else should either. Block and forget. Ty for making a video about this.

[@wanderingthedesert5599]

So, here are my takes regarding Generation One and my own mindset: I don't hate the non-Generation One series, but ultimately, Generation One is what most people identify with and is the gold standard from which all other ideas flow. The success of the later shows, comics, and movies (I suppose video games if you count the Activision content that came out in 2010 / 2012). My issue is more execution oriented whether story or aesthetic and I think I have a potential solution (really modeled on the success of Bandai / Sunrise's handling of Gundam). My 'definitive G1' in terms of storytelling potential, honoring the history of what came before, the way the characters look, etc... is probably Dreamwave Comics' Generation One continuity as it melded ideas from both the Sunbow Animated series, Marvel Comics US and UK, and was to tie into Beast Wars Transformers. I understand that nowadays, it's a very niche thing among fans since the stuff produced by Dreamwave was really 3 years of content or so. I also appreciate that the kept the original alternate modes from the 1980s because for me at least, everything else is 'inspired by', but not actually G1, so I consider IDW Comics, Skybound, etc. to be completely different things with hits and misses of their own. I also appreciate some of the concepts that Japan's G1 contributed to with their own unique characters post Season 3 US / Transformers 2010 series and the same with Beast Wars II and Neo. I would say that I'm more liberal minded now than I was when I first saw Beast Wars (it wasn't for me, but I thought the CGI looked terrible and I was 13 when it first aired). Only years later would it be the character development and story that really won me over when I was 19 / 20 in college. With that said, here are my critiques of the non-G1 stuff: Beast Wars started off with terrible CGI but does get better with Season 2 onwards; Beast Machines relies too heavily on drones and while I understand the appeal of a smaller cast, I would've liked more Maximals, Vehicons, and heck even Predacons to have shown up; also this is a great show on its own, but it really is bad as a continuation of Beast Wars, so it's best to see this as something separate. Beast Wars II and Neo: They're okay, I don't hate them, I think Neo does a lot to touch base with the prior G1 history with the re-emergence of Unicron as a threat and I love nods and acknowledgements of past history because it makes things feel a bit more organic. Unfortunately this starts the trend of overusing Unicron, though I'd argue that's more the Armada-verse that did that. I thought Car Robots / 2001 Robots In Disguise was okay and just happy to see Autobots and Decepticons / Predacons again. Many of the vehicles and robot modes are amazing even though really outside of Gigatron / Megatron, only the Autobots get new molds. I don't remember much about the story though. The Armada-verse.... Lots of wasted potential that I'd love to see revisited with better execution and planning. These shows relied too heavily on gimmicks whether it was Minicons, Energon weapons / Powerlinking, or Cyber Planet Keys to drive their stories and while I love the character designs, these shows are incredibly repetitive and just all over the place. Armada is a much better series by the second half, but all the good will that came about with character development and the hype for Energon just died after it was clear that none of the previous plot threads from Armada would be carried over and resolved. Cybertron / Galaxy Force feel like an entirely different disconnected show (probably because that's what it was intended to be), so things are really fubar. Not a fan of the overly simplified art style of Animated, but the voice talent, and stories really won me over and is one of my favorite non-G1 series. Prime is an excellent show in terms of look, music, voice talent and cast, with the writing being a bit weak at times and the fact that only Decepticons die (yes Cliffjumper dies in the first episode, but there's not enough to become really attached). It also seems that nearly ALL Cybetronians are on the verge of extinction, though I'm sure that's due to budget constraints. 2015 RID, what is this garbage? Its allegedly a follow-up to Prime but in no way does this feel connected storywise, visually, or just in terms of tone. Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy is just terrible. There's no real sense of history or of what's going on and it's G1, but IDW, but not... wut? Netflix's War for Cybetron Trilogy is supposed to be another 'G1' but they kill of Magnus and a bunch of characters and some other stuff happens, and it just kind of ends with the threat of Unicron? No idea what this was trying to do and I'd rather not watch it again. Cyberverse... Why is a children's cartoon better than the stuff written for adults? Not my favorite, but I really love that it's very G1 inspired in the sense of recapping the Earth War, and then just doing their own thing later. Not a fan of the simplified art style, but this did have the feel of a well populated Cybertron. Don't really have a comment on Earthspark and I heard about the whole controversy of inserting modern day gender-identity politics, so I'm going to stay away from that which is sad, because it might actually be a worthwhile show (I saw the series pilot for free). All the Bay movies are just bad, convoluted messes with designs I'm not the biggest fan of. I think there are some very good elements in them, but as a whole, not so much which is funny because a lot of them are G1 episodes mashed together. To be more positive, the fight scenes are really well done, sometimes too much shaky can, but Revenge of the Fallen from Spike ...er "Sam" being chased by the Decepticon Pretender to the Forest Battle, everything is just gold. Age of Extinction started to give the Autobots a bit more character and even Prime has an actual character struggle in it. The two non-Bay films are just okay. Bumblebee probably is the best out of all of them and it feels very much like an 80s movie, maybe even the equivalent of an 80s blockbuster, with the two best Decepticons in the whole movie verse, because they're not just special effects but actual characters. Transformers One by far is the best of the movies, though my preference is for G1 animated movie. I think the idea of Sentinel Prime as a bad guy has been a bit overplayed, as well as making Optimus and Megatron friends pre-falling out and these are obviously influenced from the non-G1 parts of the franchise. The 13 Primes came from IDW and I' not sure I really like it to be honest. I think I like Dreamwave G1's Prime lineage better where there's only ever one Prime at any given time (Alpha Prime, Guardian Prime, Sentinel Prime, Optimus Prime, and finally Rodimus Prime). Anyways, that was quite a lot to type. I pray you had the patience to read through all of it!

[@raptorprimal1077]

Plus side there are G1 fans who are cool. I know a G1 pure fan, only loves G1 but he never shits on others for liking other parts of the brand

[@Tf_hazbin]

Transformers talk raw in my opinion said something that really made my blood boil "fans should be kissing the feet of g1"

[@baxterstockman2191]

G1, had the best characters, best designs,,,,,, to date, TO DATE!!

[@Tf_hazbin]

@baxterstockman2191 seriously 😑

[@andersondiazcampos8720]

Nah, there's already a lot of continuity and even figures with better designs for each g1 character, so far they're not that good, heck even a lot of them haven't aged well like the fembots for example

[@baxterstockman2191]

@@andersondiazcampos8720Animated, Prime, RID, Earth Spark, live action, no where have better designs

[@supermariovaughn1515]

​@baxterstockman2191 The amount of glaze in this one take is absolutely ABOMINABLE

[@matiasmarcelotoledop]

My G1 was Armada, years later thanks to my uncle i discovered G1 and i love the G1 show but the franchise has done better shows and desgins since

[@zuntata7860]

don't tell geewuners what saved Transformers in the late 80's, 90's, early 2000's and middle 2000's

[@yunoyuluvit]

None of which would have existed, had it not been for G1. Let's not forget that Classics and Masterpiece were aimed at G1 collectors. Plus we had the Dreamwave comics. G1 didn't need saving.

[@misterbiscuit3706]

Pretty clear G1 would have died without, say Beast Wars. If none of the shows we had after G1, then Transformers would have just gone down as “that one forgotten neat toy from the 80s” and not the juggernaut of a franchise it is today. Geenwunners suck in all fandoms, but transformers definitely take the cake. It takes a lotta effort to somehow be more annoying than Pokemon Genwunners.

[@yunoyuluvit]

@@misterbiscuit3706 Dreamwave released new G1 comics in 2002. Takara created the Masterpiece line in 2003. What happened was that those kids that grew up with G1 were now creators themselves, as well as having the spending power to re-purchase the toys from their childhoods. G1 was never going away.

[@mtzproductionstf.8844]

G1 is not even that great is so overrated this g1ners created toxicity in bayverse which are so annoying and toxic at the same time 💀

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

There are some good episode of g1, most of it is absolute gas

[@baxterstockman2191]

@@EmRizzlemrfunnyman best character are G1

[@michaelpapp5518]

7:32 I do not personally love the lack of G1 familiarity in the 07 film. However, the distaste I feel is purely subjective. There are loads of fans for those designs. That’s totally valid. They’re objectively well thought out and carefully created in CGI. The effects in the 07 film stand up better than many modern movies.

[@michaelpapp5518]

Too many of us “Gee-Wunners” are fools. As an OG TF fan, Transformers is best when it’s ever changing as the weather. It’s shockingly ironic so many of us are this resistant to transforming the Transformers franchise.

[@xavierbailey7183]

It Was Actually Cyber torn that was the first Transformers cartoon I watched

[@Coinstudiosbackup]

G1 is actually MID! The lore is so inconsistent and dont forget the hundreds of thousands of animations errors! G1 fans need to cope!

[@EmRizzlemrfunnyman]

Season 3 💀

[@Haiiko581]

@@Coinstudiosbackup bro came swinging😭

[@yunoyuluvit]

G1 is more than just the cartoon.

[@primerex04studios42]

Without G1 there would be no Transformers franchise, I may love G1 and Animated equally, but I really hate it when people attack G1 fans for liking G1, I may despise Trashspark with a passion, but I don’t attack people for liking it, although I will make points on why it’s garbage.

[@TheStamenBoy]

To be honest, this is waaay acceptable than being an modern Halo fan who likes the new games, they allways want to make fun of you for not linking the originals. Here by the other hand dosen't happend to much in my experience, to me the Transformers community will be allways much MUCH less toxic than the Halo community.

[@THE14THPRIME229]

I just love TRANSFORMERS. Period . Yes I was alive for g1 … so it did start it all for me but in general .. I just love my toys and the franchise.

[@furosutokira]

I was born few years before the bay movies came out so they were my entry point. My childhood was pure unfiltered bliss, not giving a fuck where the toy came from because it was still a transformer. Bayverse, animated, prime, I was fine with whatever, even cheap knockoffs. One day I'll be playing with animated Bumblebee & Bulkhead (the one with Headmaster) and the next I'm playing with power core combiners Volcanion. I really don't understand what makes G1 so special that it's seen as unmatched by anything that has or will proceed it, genuinely I feel like geewunners are delusional. Are bayformers good? Story is terrible, but I'm just here for the spectacle, I *LOVE* the complexity in their designs, watching all those parts move around sends seratonin to my autistic brain. If it were on spectacle alone the bayverse would be my favorite movies, but a good story is important too, so my top 3 movies are 1. TF One 2. Bumblebee 3. Dark of the Moon This turned out longer than expected, if I were to debate on why bayverse seems to get hated on more than anything else I'd make an encyclopedia

[@ranggareiss2202]

Man without Bayverse i wouldn't even like Transformers, I mean i watch G1 Cartoon and Unicorn Trilogy, but The Bayverse movies is the one who make me like Transformers

[@SourRobo8364]

I miss the Unicron Trilogy.

[@JT-pr8mi]

Imagine armada with the animation of today. I would be fire

[@aweirdredtoad3637]

​@JT-pr8mi Armada is fine, it was just unfinished because we got the short end of the stick.

[@TheAutobotPower]

I'm just sick of hasbro trying to sell me G1 outside of the generation lines. It doesn't help that most of the new lines that aren't g1 are either trash or way too evergreen (g1 designs AGAIN)

[@SamuelWright-j6o]

I’m kind of a g1er but I loved Beast Wars

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Geewunners refuse to watch Beast Wars II, and various over peak fiction. Give it a chance and you will understand the true meaning of justice.

[@yashmandla1234]

Im sorry but i am beyond tiered of getting nothing but G1 toys, im an early 2000s kid so those disigns mean NOTHING too me, and unless you want transformers too die off with the G-1kids some of wich are in their mid 50s, its time too move on, thare have been great disigns and shows that honestly blow g1 out of the water by comparison. Unicron trilogy, Animated, and Prime, surpass the original show in every way, but takara and hasbro seem contempt with just making g1 over and over again,

[@grimlocktheking2010]

the main reason i prefer the humans in bumblebee is they actually add a bit to the plot unlike bayverse like charlie actually doing something useful name one usefull thing sam did that didn’t involve cybertronians

[@Muscle_man-r1k]

You know who else is insane??

[@Muscle_man-r1k]

MY MOM!!!

[@vustvaleo8068]

same with Power Rangers fans who only considered Mighty Morpin' as the "true Power Rangers" and all the other series after it are just "pale imitations".

[@weebvsreviewch9484]

SuperSentai fan: MMPR are Overrated embrace Gorangers to BoomBoomger

[@ZZtheDark]

Funny is that for me, I grew up watching SOME episodes of Season 1 and Season 2 but I always recall the Ninja Quest the best to start off with since it gave it something new to deal with. Plus I watched Zeo till In Space, Lost Galaxy till Wild Force and Ninja Storm till Mystic Force and Overdrive. There are so many seasons that did MMPR better. Hell, Junko Komura's Sentais (before she wrote the banger that is Kamen Rider Gavv), why waste making a new MMPR when Zyuohger, Lupin vs Pat and Zenkaiger imo had a formula similar to MMPR with simplistic plots and something familiar to MMPR? So clearly, the fans didn't see that there are seasons that still adhere to that. It's just that Shirakura and some higher ups were holding the Sentai hostage until Donbrothers came along but that's another story.

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Grew up with G1 in the 80s. outside of the toys outgrew it 20+ years ago. I just don't have the attention span for the older cartoon, and find most shows BWs onwards significantly more interesting and watchable. Of course that was until Prime end when I no longer was really the target audience for the more kid friendly iterations until maybe now with TFO. Arguably the same could be said with The Netflix series but never bothered with them as I was pretty much done with most TF media other than collecting the toys. Love the variety of toys we've been recently getting, and it's almost necessary at this point as how many times can Hasbro reproduce the same figure/character year without end. Variety I feel is quickly becoming the life line of the entire franchise at this point, and given how profitable SS and it's subline are it's impossible not to see that.

[@matthewreep753]

Nothing wrong with preferences. As long as people don’t think their opinion is the only right one. You’re entitled to your opinion and you’re free to express it. But you have to accept some people will like things you don’t and won’t like things you do. Just wish everyone would respect each other even if they disagree. Goes for fans of all generations.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

You should make a video about energon. TIdalwave/mirage/Shockwave/Shockfleet is peak.

[@MonsterKidCory]

My hot take: I like G1 because that's what I grew up with and what I'm most familiar with. I also liked Animated, and the new EU comics (which is just G1 for adults). But if you like other stuff, that's cool. Whatever works for you. 😱

[@TheDaxter11]

I still love to laugh at the geewunners who got pissy because Legacy Metroplex, the line that's meant to celebrate Transformers things other than G1, was Cybertron Metroplex and not G1 Metroplex, spouting shit like "it should have been G1 Metroplex, not this thing" and crap like that.

[@hdb1975]

cybertron metroplex is also cool asf and i prefer it much more

[@endobendo9497]

Even though im a g1 fan, i do gonna admit those types of fans are annoying as hell, like bro they just say shit that won't shut up like oh my god, and i swear, if i see a another "waa i hate bayformers cause its not g1 accurate" im gonna fucking lose it.

[@Renkencen]

While I consider myself to be a G1 fans since I'm an 80's kid but i DO NOT gatekeep any fans that is not into nor liked the G1 stuff! These "GeeWun" do not comprehend that any 00's to 2020's fans are not from the 80's! Like why should they liked something they weren't borned in???? Like the 80's and 90's are a product of their time. Like these GeeWun should celebrate that it was BW, Bayverse or even Earthspark that made them a Transformers fan cos that their "childhood" in the same way how G1 cartoon was "my childhood"! It's like telling modern day Batman fans that they HAVE to liked the Golden Age Batman cos that where it all begin or I should liked the film "Casablanca" cos it is a renowned classic but I found the movie to be boring as shit! Like while I still loved the 86 movie but it mainly for the nostaglia reason as yeah, it is a heavily flaw film! As for Bumblebee movie, likewise I only liked the beginning as the rest of the film is just a boring version of The Iron Giant!

[@Soulprime13]

i always respect the classics, even if i dont enjoy them. everything need to start somewhere. but some people, cant seem to understand that peopel are still being born after them and wont know the things they love frome the start, that came10 years before they did. transformers, pokemon , musis etc. its crazy

[@SNDWV99]

Sounds like a skill issue, ngl. Should've been born earlier.

[@Soulprime13]

@SNDWV99 man that's the same thing they tell me when I try to buy a house 😠

[@SNDWV99]

@@Soulprime13 damn housing market geewunners dawg

[@Soulprime13]

@@SNDWV99 lmao

[@thefluffynerd95]

I'm a fan of every era of Transformers. You know my first series was Armada, but I'm not just going to be like, " Oh, Transformer Armada is a fantastic show that the only Transformer show you should watch!!!" The show has a good amount of floss. And a G1 is basically like every other show for Transformers it's good, but there's flaws. Just don't be blinded by nostalgia.

[@pipes3952]

Only G1 matters, yeah in same time japanise G1 continuity, what the slag is this, this isn't exist.

[@NPUTsReviewsandStopmotion]

G1? More like G-lost!! Am I right?! Huh huh. Am I right?!! I have seen this stuff since the early 00s when RID 2001 started getting reported on in magazines. I just do what I did then. Roll my eyes and simply walk away. If it wasn't for Beast Wars, there would be no Transformers. If it wasn't for the bayverse, there would be no Transformers. The populaty of those lines and cartoon and movies saved Transformers. G1 fans can give all the credit to G1 they want, but without Beast Wars and the Bayverse, Transformers would have ended up another forgotten dead franchise in the vein of Bravestar or Silver Hawks.

[@Siren_Titan_the_bro_is_lagging]

One question, what and who is the "G1 Elitist" or something idk (Also hi im new)

[@jackytran4885]

But only these two...like G1 and Beast Wars

[@gamerofcomics492]

I like how so many people don’t realize that Beast Wars is G1

[@xavierbailey7183]

The G1 Racist

[@DragonAndJaguar]

I feel like I like both G1 and Beast Wars. To be frank, they have great qualities that are better than each other. G1: -It kickstarted the Transformers franchise. -It focused on the staple aspect of robots transforming into robotic stuff. -They have Autobot dinosaurs, called/in the form of the Dinobots, yeah I’m a dinosaur lover, so this is a treat for me, that why I also don’t get upset over the likes of Trypticon or the Dino Force (from Victory), because even though they are bad (yeah, I don’t like bad guys), I at least still have the Dinobots. Yeah I love good-aligned dinosaurs, so this is what G1 did better (not sure about superiorly) than Beast Wars which unfortunately portrayed all the dinosaur-alt-mode Transformers (as well as the one’s with herbivorous dinosaur alt-modes) as bad guys/Predacons (I get that the herbivores aren’t completely safe to haphazardly be around, but still), before you mention Dinobot, he was originally a Predacon, as for his recoloured doppelgänger, Grimlock, he didn’t appear in the show. Worse, when there were (more) dinosaur-alt-mode-Maximals/Transformers that are Maximals, they were made for the poorly received Beast Machines. I know, it is/it’s a bad reason to like anything, but like I’ve said before, I love dinosaurs. -In Beast Wars, when the Maximals or Predacons say their activation codes (“Maximise!” or “Terrorise!”), they go from Beast to Robot mode, even though I get the meaning of the activation codes, it still feels weird for me because. It implies that their Beast Modes are their normal form and that their robot modes are an enhanced form. G1 doesn’t use this/that, having them transform without saying anything to activate it, making it clear or allowable to treat it that their normal modes are their robot modes, after all, they are called Robots in disguise, not vehicles/beasts in disguise. Beast Wars: -It feels unique to see Transformers transform into an organic creature (though they I feel like it works better as toys/in toy form). -It fixed the problem (in G1) where (nearly) every animal-alt-mode Transformers (especially the ones that transform into modern animals like mammals, birds, etc) were unfortunately bad guys/Decepticons, now that nearly every Maximal transform into animals. I say this as/because I’m an animal lover. Yeah, I know it’s still a bad reason to like something, but still. What do you think?

[@revvingnoodle7192]

I may of the very few that actually love the early gen of g1 masterpiece figures, with the MP-3 starscream as it looked more like a model aircraft than a toy because i like the idea of an actual model vehicle that can transform, and i jnow the michael bay movies aren't perfect, i love their designs from seeing the mechanics behind their design and see everything functio and they have some good toys at the time as well

[@seerus1351]

I'm a hardcore G1 fan, but there's still lots of other series to enjoy and yes, even some stinkers too.

[@metrofox1424]

That's what happens when a franchise has multiple continuities and series

[@benconforzi5696]

For me and perhaps other kids of the 90’d Beast wars was my G1. Although watching G1 episodes on vhs tape. Did help to get me interested in the franchise. That being said it would be nice to get another beast wars cartoon. Or more appearances of beast wars characters. Beside the usual Cheetor and Blackarachnia.

[@TitaniumBuilder8]

G1 has some good designs, but not the best per se; some Transformers series post-G1 have better designs. For example… - Cybertron has my favorite version of Jetfire. (I also like his new Australian accent, fight me) - Prime has my favorite versions of Arcee and Smokescreen. (Arcee is now indigo, so what? I like it, and same with Smokescreen being white) The infamous Transformers: Earthspark, for whatever reason, has so many designs heavily based on G1, which I am not crazy about. In terms of the show itself, coming from a Gen Z man, G1 is fine, but I enjoy both Prime, and also even Cybertron much more than I do G1. (I watched Prime, and I am currently watching Cybertron (and G1))

[@kindequation_Arts]

Geez I didn’t know the Transformers fandom was this weird, this just goes to show that no matter what you do the fandom will always complain. There is a Transformers movie or show for every generation, not just for one.

[@BCchannel1993]

these very same elitists are why I created my own community that is accepting of all, and is intolerant to their crap

[@JegglyJilly]

I don’t like to follow others as I’m more of a *DO MY OWN SHIT* person.

[@ethanphi]

The wild thing is Beast Wars is related to G1

[@nexxus111]

I consider it part of G1.

[@ethanphi]

@@nexxus111 yeah but people probably don't bother to watch Beast Wars because "It's not G1"

[@SlashTheWeasel]

I am 50 year old G1 collector/fan/enthusist and I have so much to say but I'll try and keep it brief. I stay away from all this online hate. I am apart of only certain online groups due to it. I watched and enjoyed many versions of TFs before Bay 2007 movie came out, and I remember the weird psycho hate for it before it even came out. I said just enjoy it, its TFs but I lost friends cause it wasn't G1 and the hate they had for it. It really made me depressed. Energon was one of the best toy series and I still have all the Energon and other toys that came out. Still love them now. They hold up even to today's. But now days I buy mainly G1. I've bought few other TFs or transforming robot toys (52Toys) but due to space and money I stick with G1. I have noticed that G1 does sell the best. When other series come out, my wallet gets well-deserved break. I don't mind.

[@weebvsreviewch9484]

My G1 are GalaxyForce/Cybertron, Bayverse Animated and the rest of the early 2000s

[@skuffy4930]

For me, I don't really have something I can point to as my introduction to the brand. As a kid I had G1, Energon, Prime, Animated, and Bayformers all on DVD and put equal amounts of time into all of them. Since my earliest days of being a fan I'm someone who's walked pretty much all the different roads of Transformers, seen the characters I love in so many different forms, seen different stories every time. I'm not an Animated fan, or a Prime fan, or a G1 fan, I'm a transformers fan, capital period.

[@kennythetrend3688]

Now imagine being me where my favorite Transformers and Wrestling things are Bayverse and AEW... CONSTANT ridicule and insults just for me liking these 2 things.

[@CobbicusPrime]

The Bayverse designs always bothered me because they didn't have very discernable features. They looked like balls of tin foil with a few body panels glued on. I am a G1 fan from the start. But, I do see good points in other parts of the franchise. But, those designs were my biggest dislike of the Bayverse.

[@sonaldon-w1f]

We are masters of change, this franshise is so used to change, we are masters not some goofs hate change.

[@paakdisayaniyom]

And thus the stagnation begun...

[@Mia-gamin-616]

I like g1 to a certain degree but i absolutely despise g1 fans pretending its the highest form of art or something (it isnt) i recall tfw2005 forums having meltdowns whenever something non g1 took the spotlight

[@yunoyuluvit]

3:49 "...Studio Series... that's the highest selling line we've gotten in recent years, and Hasbro has been doing it for almost ten years. WHAT DOES THE SHOW YOU G1'ERS?! A movie-based toy line that is selling the best, right now, for almost ten years straight, basically." "Sure, they threw in '86 and all this G1 stuff, the last few years, which is selling JUST AS GOOD AND, SOMETIMES, EVEN BETTER..." Well done for owning yourself. G1 Sells and sells well. Get over it.

[@Chrisjaam]

A Geewuner upset and doing mental gymnastics. Me pointing that out doesn't exclude all the insane stuff yall have done over the last 30 years lol you clearly didn't comprehend what this video was about

[@yunoyuluvit]

@@Chrisjaam I'm not upset and there's no mental gymnastics from my end. You were trying to come up with some huge gotcha, only to completely disprove your own claim, just one sentence later, which I quoted, verbatim. Your video, like your comment is meant to stir up some drama. There are plenty of people in the community that cry whenever new G1-related lines come out, despite, as you point out it being a cash cow for Hasbro, but I don't feel the need to bitch about them.

[@Chrisjaam]

@@yunoyuluvit So your not allowed to make videos on bad things in the community and only discuss sunshine and rainbows with transformers?😂 People in the comments are the ones who create drama I'm just speaking my mind and clearly you got offended. I never said g1 needs to go away and it doesn't sell well. The point is g1ers saying we don't need other continuities when bayverse is the best selling and sometimes even better along with g1. Again the whole point flew right over your head.

[@yunoyuluvit]

@@Chrisjaam It's not what you point out, it's the way you do it. When you use vitriol against people that you disagree with, that creates the drama. As to the comments: yes, it's there, too. Some of which you've given your approval to, which gives the impression that you support the drama. I'm not offended, any more than I was upset. Please stop gaslighting me. All I did was quote you, word for word, and pointed out how you shot down your own rant, by stating how successful successful Studio Series was, only to say that '86 was doing better. That's it. Own it and move on.

[@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002]

Meh, I may not care for G1 or those G1 elitists much, but usually the problem I have with the Transformers fandom nowadays is that the other Transformers fans who grew up with the same favorites as me such as the Unicron Trilogy,Bayverse,Animated, or Prime etc. or maybe yet also always praise Travis Knight's Bumblebee movie would always bash me or call me names whenever I pick out many new favorites after my old ones. For example: After growing up my old favorites, I found more favorites while they're also my guilty pleasures such as RID 2015,BotBots,ROTB, and TF ONE but the other Beast Wars,Unicron Trilogy,Bayverse, and Prime fans besides myself would bash me for it like they'd think I'm a traitor to my own childhood or something because they either don't like them or they just think that's "poor taste" or something, instead of patronizing me? they should atleast be happy I found new favorites such as TF ONE or RID 2015 atleast. Sheesh, and I thought that stupid "Disney vs. DreamWorks" trend was the most annoying topic that eveb I as a fan of both studios couldn't stand, maybe I should've looked into what Paramount and Nickelodeon have for now on after all lmao.

[@friendlycanadian3150]

Who's bashing you for liking transformers one? That is the best transformers movie to date. Rid 2015 I kinda get because that show should not have been in the aligned continuity, but half of the aligned continuity shouldn't have been in it.

[@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002]

@@friendlycanadian3150 Eh, I dunno' anymore tbh, it's that "Box Office" nonsense that lives rent free in my head alot ever since DreamWorks' The Wild Robot got alot of praise even tho' I did enjoy TF ONE alot regardless of what the Box Office says about the movie and all lol. And also, as for RID 2015, I still enjoyed it because of it's toyline since I use to have the Legion and Warrior Class figures of the toyline and all, but to each of their own.

[@terryrocks2j]

I'm a G'1er. Collect the figures mainly G1. Did not like any of the Bayfilms but not going to ridicule anyone over it. If you like it, then that's cool. I have my G1, you have your Bayverse. All good.

[@sci-fi.tsunami]

A lot of toy collectors are INSANE!!! I wish I knew this decades ago. I wouldn't have wasted my time posting on the forums. Fighting/arguing with them wasn't worth the effort.

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

I mean how many g1 Optimus primes do the geewuners need?

[@ShogunResu]

No one is going to doubt that G1 is the root of the franchise and I love it after I first saw the 2007 film, because it was interesting to know where Transformers began because when I was still in diapers I remember seeing RID 2001 on Fox Kids, then in like my elementary school years I saw the entire Unicron Trilogy on Cartoon Network's Toonami block and right after the 07 movie I got into Transformers more from Animated in 2008 then ROTF then Prime and eversince I've been a fan of Transformers collecting figures since 07 and hell I watched Beast Wars and it was comedic and action packed with tons of G1 references but for G1 elitists to complain about things being super accurate or show accurate to G1 is tiresome and it holds Transformers back from becoming more and it's basically gatekeeping new and younger fans from it and it's super toxic not to mention without the live action movies, Transformers would've never made it this far nor would G1 be acknowledged as it is.

[@CrossBonesKoopa]

Beast Wars has a good Story

[@estebandejesus7236]

I like all transformers shows.

[@estebandejesus7236]

Thank you.

[@hdb1975]

i have seen the unicron trilogy, prime, animated, beast wars, siege, bayverse, played wfc/foc, read skybound and idw… but for some reason i CANT sit through g1, ive tried 3ish times over the past few years and i just drop it after a couple episodes. i know this comment probably comes of like rage bait but i genuinely feel like Im being gaslit into thinking g1 was amazing. I’ll say that it has a cozy vibe, but between the grating voice recordings and animation and character errors it feels like im watching it with a lobotomy

[@Arrivederchi683]

Bumblebee and the 86 movie weren’t that good tbh

[@Vampyr787]

Some people are just way too obsessed and it happens in every fandom. I myself am a Beast Wars fan and G1 enjoyer. I never expierenced G1oners back in the 90 because I had no internet back then, for all I knew Beast Wars was it's own thing. Only years later I found out about Transformers and that there is more. I only buy Beast Wars and G1 + Weaponizer kind of stuff. With other coninuities it's not my cup of tea but I'm not gonna bash it, I don't have to buy everything. I'm spendin way too much sometimes so it's fine if there are figures I have no interest in so I can save money for figures I want.

[@Haiiko581]

My gripe is G1 Elitists despise the bay designs even tho some are better or more well known than their G1 counterpart.

[@stick7962]

With the exception of Bumblebee I’m struggle to think of any designs that are more well known from the Bayverse Or any that are “better”

[@Haiiko581]

@stick7962 Blackout is a good example being a better design and more well known than his G1 counterpart

[@stick7962]

@ Blackout is basically an 07 movie OC. Before that “blackout” was just a name for a bunch of totally different random bots with no cohesive identity

[@Haiiko581]

@stick7962 are you sure doesn't he have a G1 counterpart tho?

[@stick7962]

@ he has this random ass Micromaster that got like one toy

[@alobaymar]

*NOW YUO SEE...*

[@mapencila001]

I collected Transformers back when they were Diaclone . Being a G1 fan i will say this Bah-weep-granah-weep-nini-bong. Welcome to community each one of us has a favorite Optimus i do like G1 but i Like Armada Prime better with his over all look. Each era you can find a toxic zealot who takes things too far. I feel the comics has some of the best stories. If you can get your hands on some of the comics from Dream wave productions was a good read. Also if you can play War and Fall of Cybertron those were some good games. I will say i am totally enjoying the crossover stuff, i just got Agent Knight and i really like that figure. I found Prime to be a good mix of old and new. Enjoy what you like don't let others define what makes you happy. Me Hasbro and 3rd party companies are giving me all i want and more. Anyway good point and have a good one 👍.

[@astrangerontheinternet5500]

I really think people who ONLY love a single generation of a long franchise is Illogical (hehe) like there’s so much content but no. You only like the one you grew up with.

[@Kresh-nah.]

monke yus truk!1!

[@PrimalistOptimus]

You like what you like in the fandom and that should be the way it is. Yeah there are some diehard and even crazy G1 fans, but the same could be said of all generations. Those who are throwing stones so often live in glass houses themselves. So before you point a finger, better take a look in the mirror.