Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 The Truth!

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[@damarpo5467]

purchased this exact mower in dec 2019, have 9.6 hrs on it. NO vibration! smooth and quite! excellent cut, couldn't be happier. Would purchase another one tomorrow. (update) 5/4/2022...Almost 3 years now and STILL loving it! NO PROBLEMS at all!

[@g4outdoors]

Enjoy it

[@michaelsimsplaya4199]

I concur

[@kwilkins1000]

I bought mine 4 days ago, 54” and has kohler 22hp motor and LOVE it...super smooth, nice cutting, zero complaints. I mowed my entire street the first day i brought it home, then mowed an acre of tall grass the next day, still no problems...feels solid as a rock to me 😉👍

[@michaelsimsplaya4199]

Update mine is on third year . Deck is fuking up . Hope dealer can fix if under warranty

[@Fpineros22]

wow ! 👌

[@jaredcoggins2436]

I run a 50" zt1 as my only mower for a commercial condo management operation. Mow about 22 acres a week with it. Oil change and blade sharpening 2-3x a season and haven't had any issues yet. So far it's been a great machine.

[@remileon7]

Zt2 54"cub was my first zero turn when I started my landscape maintenance company and it was great for a entry into commercial maintenance. I have since upgraded but we still use it quite often!

[@NATEDIZZLE413]

Curious to know how it help up since then

[@michaelsimsplaya4199]

@@NATEDIZZLE413 it will soon start vibrating. Mine just started this week at 54 hrs . Up until now i couldn’t have asked for a better mower

[@chris2790]

Shoulda got the zt2 for that much cutting. You're gonna most likely have issues. Too much for the 2200 hydros.

[@jaredcoggins2436]

@@chris2790 you're probably right, but i basically bought it as a 1 year throw away machine and it just finished it's 2nd season of cutting and its still getting the job done without any problems.

[@andyjame7108]

I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. kzbin.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.

[@johnverschoor7513]

I have a 42 and use mine every day , couldn't afford one of those expensive ones , got about 520 hours on it . great machine

[@Sam_Holladay]

You should back off the throttle before engaging the pto, then throttle back up. Throttle down when disengaging the pto also. This reduces the load on the deck and engine. I don’t care what the rep says.

[@g4outdoors]

Sam Holladay I’m missing some notifications for some reason. I completely agree!

[@dkdmnddkdkd8980]

Exactly

[@rockfordm7153]

👍Sam- low RPM for deck engagement and disengage. Belts and clutch WILL last longer.

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

Exactly, did the rep promise to come fix it when it breaks?

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I can fully understand that concept, and thought of it and tried it myself. But for this machine, the deck actually seems to more smoothly at full throttle when engaging the PTO. A Rep is a guy who relays factory information of the product they built. I think it is almost always a mistake to think they don't know what they are doing.

[@lonesomeonrymean9216]

Third season mowing 1.75 acres with a ZT1 2-3 week, absolutely fantastic machine.

[@SENCYR37220]

Got the ZT1 54” and never had an issue. Maintenance is a breeze and it cuts like a champ

[@g4outdoors]

Sounds like you got lucky, or they have meshed out all of the problems I had.

[@SENCYR37220]

G4 Outdoors yeah, maybe there’s a difference between the Home Depot 50” and the Tractor Supply 54” 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@tkimball861]

I purchased the ZT1-50 with the Kawasaki engine at the beginning of the 2019 season. I mow 4-4.5 acres at my home every week During the spring,summer,and fall. When I put the mower away for the winter it had just over 57 hours on it. I have had zero issues with the mower. It cuts great with very few stragglers as long as you keep the blades sharp. I have no vibration issues with mine but I also throttle down when engaging and disengaging the Deck. It’s a great mower and I’d definitely buy it again but with a bigger deck this time lol.

[@g4outdoors]

I like to hear others are having good experiences with theirs. I sure wish I had one of the good ones. It was very fun and comfortable to ride.

[@wiblesgarage2016]

Not gonna lie, I love my ZT1 Ultima. It’s by far the best zero turn I’ve ever owned.

[@rickfox9989]

I agree , i have zero issues and the thing cuts great

[@anthony-vv2uz]

Same mine was used for 35 residential houses all last year and only had one issue. A stick bounced between a belt and threw it off. I did a few upgrades and it’s ready for this year!!!

[@johnleon2594]

Just bought zt2😎😎

[@randomfox1656]

You may have never been on the Kawasaki skag zero turns, which I feel cuts a little better and runs a little smoother

[@dabzaholic4061]

My 50 zt1 at 165 hours just got it last fall and zero issues so far

[@sherpalou]

I have one of these, in my second season. It has had no issues that weren't caused by my own abuse/neglect. My ground is rough, with tons of rocks. This is the first mower I've used that I believe will hold up long term

[@james1192-e8d]

I bought a zt1 50 at the beginning of the year and originally was only mowing 4 yards with it. Now I mow 10 yards and a small business property. The mower does great for me. I’ve only put about 20 hours on it so far and the only bad thing I have noticed with the mower is the blades. They seem cheap and dull pretty quick which seems to leave some grass still standing but after sharpening them it made a big difference in the cut quality. Personally I don’t think it’s the best for how much I use it but it does work and the mower runs great especially for the price. Only thing I would have done differently was buy the zt2 50 if I knew I would be mowing as much as I am now. But all in all I am very pleased with the mower.

[@g4outdoors]

That's great to hear you're up to 10 yards! The blade are very cheap in my opinion as well. I would like to put some Scag high lift blades on this one.

[@james1192-e8d]

Thank you! And yes very soon I’ll be buying better blades also.

[@dr.w3571]

I think the mower you reviewed might be a lemon. Got mine today and it works flawlessly without vibration or any unusual noise. Works perfectly! Maybe mine, delivered on 5-28-20, had the issue you discussed resolved before leaving the production line. It is a fantastic mower and worth every penny. Good luck with yours - maybe swap it out for a new one. Thanks for your video.

[@dr.w3571]

Two years now in service with no vibration issue. Works flawlessly! A great machine worth the price.

[@philliphall5198]

It’s normal to have lemon

[@LeprechaunGinger]

Mine does not vibrate at all. It was perfectly balanced. I love it!

[@Renny1953]

Yep- max revs - engage PTO and take off- sure it will shudder a bit. I've had no problem - never had a problem with a belt - had three Cub Cadets including the new zero turn - do about 3 acres - some of it rough- NO ISSUES!

[@orlandogutierrez2562]

I’ve had mine for over a year I go rough with mine I don’t have any trouble have not even needed an oil/battery change maybe it’s just the user not the maker🤷🏽‍♂️

[@WillieMoe]

I have this mower and it leaves 2 strips of grass in the middle Any advice?

[@fiskfarm]

Our 54" does our 4+ acres of lawn and pasture in under 2 hours. What a fun 2 hours it is now. Our lawn mowing went from 5 hrs of drudgery to 2 hrs of fun. The 54" has a long belt run at front right that could really use a dampener but that is the only vibration I can find and it is minor but I plan on a mod when time allows. Best $3k we have ever spent and TSC has a 4% deal on full amount. $100 discount at every holiday etc as well. Doing pasture I run full out with our 24hp Kohler. This thing is fast. Everyone guesses I paid over 4k which I find interesting as well. Very fuel efficient as well. Less than half a tank for our entire homestead.

[@g4outdoors]

I am running through fuel kind of quickly in mine. I'm not sure if it's because I run a little slower on the yards and cost in the field, or the motor is too much for the mower. I am glad I have it, but I'm also excited to get to demo other models real soon. I do mow my properties too fast now that I have this mower, now I need another yard or two to call it work again, lol.

[@fiskfarm]

@@g4outdoors lol, our grass has never grown so slow. I have opened up more areas with our old Dr. Brush mower to clear them of rocks and branches for the ZT. Mowing was never supposed to be this much fun 👍😎👌 Kep in mind the motor runs at full speed for a great cut so if you go too slow you are wasting gas. I go full out whenever conditions allow and it always looks great.

[@user-US-Loki]

@@g4outdoors Who's singing some people are saying Matt Snooki but I can't find the song anywhere

[@g4outdoors]

joe k It is Matt Snook! He’s taken all of his music down from his sites because he has been signed!! Some of my videos are already demonetized because of his music being in it. I’ll be real disappointed when his label gets ahold of Guitars Girls Green Grass and Guns. That is the song I built my channel on! Lol.

[@algoneby]

We just bought one, do you need to register it, for the warranty ?

[@g4outdoors]

Absolutely! If not by the seller, then by you.

[@marcusXaurelius]

Have had my zt1 50 for about 18 months. 120 hours currently mow about 3 to 4 acres a week. Deck rumbles like it’s got a mild cam in it, love it. I do my own maintenance and repairs haven’t had 1 issue with this mower, it’s been flawless. Don’t underestimate the rigidity of that fabricated deck. (IMO is why it may transfer vibration thru the mower itself) vs stamped decks absorbing it. The fact is it’s Rigid!!!! Go buy a JD. CC should just refund your money.

[@gavinelliot3564]

Balance the blades corncob/its easy grow a self.T800Aust ust

[@MartyInTheWoods]

1:35 is the vibration from unbalanced blades? So when you take off all blades, does it still vibrate?

[@BrandonHvlogs]

Marty that’s what I was thinking.

[@jenkinsj0672]

I kept waiting to hear that test, but ... nope, didn't even try it. Bet the tech didn't either.

[@jeffel1302]

At 7:40...."engage blades at maximum RPM". I was told exactly the opposite by my Cub Cadet dealer. He said to engage and disengage the blade PTO ONLY at a slower RPM. This makes perfect sense to me and is what I am doing. Again, the dealer and Cub Cadet tech are giving different answers. How does everybody else feel?

[@kevinwest1607]

Had my Hustler for over 5 years now,zero problems.

[@g4outdoors]

I keep getting a bunch of comments telling me to try the Hustlers. Maybe they’re on to something? Lol.

[@kevinwest1607]

@@g4outdoors I have a little over two acers with about 70 trees that I mow every single week. I have a Hustler Raptor 52 and just keep clean with sharp blades and I've beat on pretty good. I don't have an hour meter so no idea on how many hours but has never let me down.

[@brucegoose6717]

Shopped around at big box stores. Decided to buy Kubota z231 rated for up to 2 - 4 acres, I have 3/4 acres. I'm very happy with my 42 inch 21.5 kawasaki kubota mower.

[@johnleon2594]

I started to get one. Went with zt2 50

[@5777Whatup]

You got a bad one I guess. I have a zt2 60” mows five acres a week. Hell I mow woods small oak trees in pines and then goes right back to a clean cut when I go back to grass. 7.5 full blast. I mow on 2.0”. I think it’s operator error here

[@johnleon2594]

Just got zt2 50😎😎

[@orman2222]

Just replaced my left side spindle yesterday on my ZT1 60-inch deck mower. The Cub Cadet OEM spindles are outrageously overpriced - purchased direct replacements from Amazon. Works fine and runs smooth.

[@mudpuddle8805]

I purchased a Cub Cadet ZT1 on 4/30/2019. The right side hydraulic drive broke with 3 hours of use on the meter. The two local authorized repair centers were so busy repairing Cub Cadets, they refused to take mine. I had to drive 1.5 hours (one way) from home to a shop that would take it. It has been over 5 weeks! and it hasnt been touched yet. I called this morning and they said they were going to get on it. The delay had been due to Cub Cadet's warranty authorization department. They said Cub Cadet normally sends out a replacement drive unit and just has it swapped out. In my case, they dont have an available replacement so they are telling the shop to tear the drive down and let the factory know what they see. DO NOT BUY A CUB CADET. What good is a mower if it is at the repair shop all the time. What good is a warranty if it takes months to get your machine back from a repair. Cub Cadet emailed me asking me to do a review of my new mower on their website. I did. They didnt like the negative review so they said it would not be published on their site. They wouldnt want the public to know the truth. They havent done a thing for me thus far. I asked them to expedite the repair. They said NO. Once they have made the sale, you are not even an after-thought. I actually own a Cub Cadet riding mower and the new ZT1 and I can assure you that I will NEVER buy another Cub Cadet. I will remain quite outspoken on the internet regarding this too so that other buyers wont be in the position that I am in now.

[@g4outdoors]

Keep posting your comments and make a video. Your words are being seen, believe me.

[@jfro5393]

Bring it back to homedepot where u bought it. Are they gonna fix it for you?

[@davidfoster5787]

My cub has been the best in my 70 plus years.

[@brianbrink1421]

Yes great job throwing that grass out into the street where a motorcycle can slide out on it!!

[@drumminsonlive9199]

I have the ZT1 54 and I love it this mower is a real workhorse. I cut my 2 acre lawn and the grass road shoulders and a couple of pretty steep ditch banks. The only thing I could even mention is it uses about a gallon of gas per hour of running it hard in the North Carolina southern heat

[@g4outdoors]

Curtis Pendergraph mine is very thirsty as well. Lol.

[@vincekline7299]

Jesus, that little yard is push mower territory.

[@kingosama9763]

Work smart not harder!

[@DrivenByLuckGaming]

I mean the mower only costs $550 so fuck it.

[@mauriciogonzalez6302]

@@DrivenByLuckGaming the mower is $3300 plus tax. I think you looked up the grass clipping collector.

[@DrivenByLuckGaming]

@@mauriciogonzalez6302 yeah bro I had my hopes up on that grass clipping collector, they got listings worded as if it’s the whole mower lol

[@ImThatGuyPaI]

@@DrivenByLuckGamingyou’re not even buying a used toro for $550😂

[@GreensideMaintenance]

I have a zt1 50. I had a site that's 6 Acres in size that I maintained twice per month for for 2 years. No issues.

[@donaldgreen7471]

I'm not sure I need a big heavy duty mower. I've been mowing 7 acres in Florida for 15 years with the same 42 in 999.00 dollar Murray rider. The 17.5 one cylinder Briggs still runs good. The transaxel is still good I'm still on my original blade spindles, the deck has lots of holes in it but works. Yes it's bout wore out but lasted 15 yrs and is still kicking. I'm looking at the 2020 arians apex 52 or 60. If the cheap Murray lasted that long the arians should last 50 yrs according to my beer calculation. Good video 🍺

[@g4outdoors]

I have had the Apex 60” for a year to demo. Check out my reviews on that! I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to buy one! I had a Cub Zero Turn lawn tractor last me 12 years, I sold it in solid condition. Sometimes you just get a good one ya know?

[@petercrown3837]

I got a cub cadet z force 48 with steering wheel for 10 years and still like first day , is 6 acres weekly most of the year but jan and feb once every two weeks.

[@00thehunter97]

Ive owned mines for 1 year no problems

[@wiblesgarage2016]

I’ve had no problems with my Ultima. I absolutely love it! It’s a shame that this one has those problems for you.

[@kschreihart]

They expect commercial grade in this price range.

[@wiblesgarage2016]

Kurt Schreihart I’ll be completely honest, I use mine commercially and it has had no problems.

[@easttnlawncare6740]

I like to Cadets the one I have is a Troy-Bilt made by the same company MTD and it does awesome

[@jamesbuchanan2840]

Had a Cub cadet. Purchased from a Cub cadet dealer, not the crap sold at Home Depot. POS. Purchased an Exmark. Love it.

[@howardhazelwood4470]

i agree, it seems lowes and home depot get seconds or something of the brand names. I bought my cub from a cub dealer and I love it.

[@Reign_In_Blood_963]

FYI... it's the same crap. Just luck of the draw.

[@mikezahnow1605]

Never had any issues with my kubota. No vibration either. I mow 2 acres every week and have been for the last 3 years and no issues.

[@johnrichardsimmons4021]

I mowed 7 acres in 6 hours 3 foot high grass field and uneven ground. It did great. JS

[@scottgolackson9515]

WITH THIS MOWER U DID THIS LOL BULL

[@dalecain1158]

I have had my Big Dog mower 54 inch cut for 6 years with no problems what so ever! Has a Kawasaki FX691V motor with plenty of power.

[@ZaneWooten]

I’m in the market for a good zero turn and I swear everybody has something bad to say about every brand I’ve looked up. I really like the Cub Cadet. It looks great, sits comfortable, and the price point isn’t bad at all. The one I looked at is $3,200.00 brand new with a lifetime warranty on the deck. At the end of the day every mower is going to have its good and bad points.

[@soylentgreen2065]

Thats right and its because only a few companies make all the mowers. I got this ZT1 a month ago and have no problems with its function EXCEPT the abysmal mulching kit (dont waste your money). Im very happy with my purchase and have had no issues at all.

[@ZaneWooten]

@@soylentgreen2065 Glad to hear it. I bought one also and it’s perfect for what I need it for. I will say that if you’re trying to cut knee high grass, expect the mower to bog out. I helped a guy cut a small field for the 4th and mine struggled in some places. But overall I’m happy with my purchase.

[@myownspiritlevel]

I hope I get a good one. It’s being delivered week after next. I wanted to get a Hustler Raptor, but my local dealer wasn’t really interested in finding me one. So, I got the Cub Cadet from Home Depot.

[@g4outdoors]

I hope you do too. It was a fun and comfortable mower. I’m actually starting to see a lot of smaller LawnCare guys running around with the Ultimas.

[@miamivice966]

I have 1 1/2 acres. My ZT1 50 is running great. Minimal vibrations. Could this be something that is caused by bad assembly? Just curious cause mine is running fine.

[@g4outdoors]

miamivice966 Very possible.

[@albion2742]

I recently bought a CC Z FORCE SX54. fIrst job was cutting knee high to hip high grass in some places due to a very wet spring here in Northern Ohio. 1 3/4 ACRES. Mower did real good. Problem I had was getting rid of 8 inch piles of cutting after. The Ultima is a lightweight mower.

[@g4outdoors]

Super lightweight.

[@Reign_In_Blood_963]

Thanks for the videos. I purchase my CC Ultima ZT1 50" early this spring and I love it. I cut a lot of my lawn at full speed and it does a fine job cutting in my opinion. My prior mowers were a Honda push mower which was super (still starts on the first pull) and an old Craftsman 36" tractor I bought second hand that also was pretty good. My current property us just under an acre and the ZT1 is perfect for me.

[@randal3122]

my property is 3.5 acres. i go full speed as much as possible to save time. i dont get stragglers until my blades are messed up. im actually really happy with mine. i never have issues with it

[@Reign_In_Blood_963]

3 years and counting. Mower is still operating just fine. Just remember to sharpen those blades every so often and you'll be fine.

[@karengreene1999]

Really happy to see these comments. Saw a lot of great review on this mower and will be getting my new one delivered tomorrow. Then I saw this and one other video making this sound like the worst mower ever. Was feeling like maybe I made a bad mistake but then I saw the comments on this video and the other bad review video I watched and the comments in both videos all say how great the mower is. I’m not worried any more and it either user error on the two videos? Anyway I can’t wait to get it tomorrow 🤗

[@allennicholson8761]

I bought a Cub cadet rzt 50 back in 2008 . I have about 2.5 arces to cut. It's still runs good but the deck is the weak spot on it. I have had to weld the deck 3 different times so far ( the mount to lift the deck broke , and both wheel mounts broke.). Just for the record I have beat the shit out of this mower since I owned it and it's still running and cutting my weeds.

[@eagerlawncare3700]

I bought skag in 2015 ... I've never taken it back to the shop since the warranty lapsed (fuel line goromet not installed completely) have had no spindal problems and I replace my own belts

[@lordismo]

“Fairly isolated incident”. Typical sales rep excuse.

[@larryspiller6633]

Sales Reps have more often than not, kept me from buying their products. The Old School Stand Alone type Dealer with a reputable service department is where I'll be headed.

[@fiskfarm]

@@larryspiller6633 on the other hand a chain like TSC probably has more clout so it really depends on the manager. In my case I do all my own work anyhow so if there were to be a problem I would be dealing direct with Cub anyway. These are such simple machines there really isn't much that can go wrong and a 3 year warranty can't be beat. I am just grateful I waited as long as I did. As a career machinery troubleshooter I took to this design immediately. Btw, I went with TSC because of their 4% / 3yr loan on any purchase over $1500. Cheap $.

[@greenmarine5]

LOL Cub Cadet is owned by MTD, commercial or chain store bought doesn't matter they are all junk these days. 25 years ago cub cadet was primo....now they are absolute *JUNK* Even John Deer is going down the tubes as far as quality. Buy a Kubota, Gravely, Scag, Xmark, Toro. Anything but John Deer and Cub Cadet, although some of the John Deer Commercial mowers mow really nice, they don't last.

[@fiskfarm]

@@greenmarine5 and yet as a life long machinery repair and redesign guy I love how this machine is made and I have found NOTHING about it that says junk. The Kohler is great, the spindles are heavy duty, the frame is incredibly strong, the blades are twice as heavy as the Husqvarna, access for maintenance and cleaning is very well thought out without all the plastic covers and moldings in the way and it mows perfectly as well as very fast. Unlike so many I have looked at even oil changes are a breeze. Do you have facts to back up your little tirade or are you just mouthing off? Not everyone wants or needs a $7000 mower. At $3k for the 54" you cannot beat this machine anywhere.

[@calebwillhelm2635]

@@fiskfarm why do you think it vibrates so bad

[@johnwehunt4305]

I purchased a ZTX5 60 and wow a pro commercial mower at close to full speed. Cub Cadet has really stepped up.

[@marcmo7138]

I just bought one of these 3 weeks ago and the only thing i notice is the front left wheel squeeks. Heard other people that had that problem as well. These mowers are selling like hot cakes this year. My dealer cant keep them in stock.

[@SteveM-q1m]

Did vibration issue get fixed if so what was the problem

[@jamesjohns83]

Thanks for the video! I've seen several vibrating deck videos for this model (my wife would love to have this option, but not so much for me)...Will switch my research back to Gravely and JD

[@g4outdoors]

I think this might be the mower to have when they work out their flaws. This first production run just isn't cutting it for me.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

My deck runs fine. I don't feel any abnormal vibration.

[@floridaswampmudders9939]

The cub cadet rzt residential mowers in general since 05ish have had major quality control issues . If you get a good one they're decent mowers . Ran a lawn business for 9 years with one rzt42 , two rzt50s and got lucky . All 3 ran and cut great with a 100ish account route only had 1 pump motor failure (rzt50) and 1 spindle failure (rzt42) the entire 9 years .

[@g4outdoors]

Mike Edge that was a nice size business! And ran with all residential? Nice.

[@floridaswampmudders9939]

@@g4outdoors yeah man all home depot residential cub cadet rzts lol. Only complaint I really had was deck height

[@irishsavage8715]

You’re not supposed to be past 50% throttle when you engage the PTO, most mowers will act erratically if you do this.

[@goldsburg]

My new Toro Timecutter 60" has a decal on the dash that says "Place throttle here (3/4 throttle) when engaging pto"...🤷‍♂️

[@Paul-y7m8n]

I bought a 1984 782. diesel cub cadett it is a great mower is love it

[@rjd8434]

I purchased a z force s last year and absolutely love it. I prefer the steering wheel over the lap bars. Just my opinion. But looking forward to your follow up video on your ultima. They are bad ass looking mowers!!!

[@g4outdoors]

Rodney Decker There is a card in this video for part 2 in case you don’t catch it when I release it. Thanks for commenting!

[@LadyOnikara]

We have a regular "tractor-style" Husqvarna riding mower that's about less than a year old. Even though it's not a zero-turn, I swear it can turn just as sharp as our Ultima XT1. I still need to use the Ultima for getting really close next to fences though, since the deck is wider on it.

[@rickgarcia8481]

I have the zt1 54 inch. On my 3rd season, great mower, no issues

[@EarthSurferUSA]

1 year down on my ZT1-50, (only 20 hours on it), and it still does what it is suppose to do and cuts fine if the grass is not real thick and shaggy. The deck may wobble a bit more than most when you hit the pto, but that maybe because the deck is hung on 3 points instead of the normal 4 points. After engagement, I don't experience any excess deck vibration or noise. It just sings along. I think you posed some vid of the pulley's on pto engagement and running a bit, but that does not really mean anything to the viewers. I have never seen a vid by those who say it vibrates a lot that can actually show me that it is vibrating excessively. Even yours looked fine to me as you were cutting the grass. But if you wanted me to hear noise from the deck, well, you were playing music. How can we take you seriously? My is fine. Glad I bought it.

[@CH-mt2qw]

I got one yesterday and I got it a J Tractors in Buna and was satisfied with everything they did for me and I got it because I have two acres and I liked the 23 HP instead of the 19 and both of my neighbors have one and has for long time and the guy I got it from said run it on full throttle for less vibration let it warm up few minutes also and take care of it because I was worried about mowing two acres with any mower but we will see

[@prevost8686]

Here’s my personal experience with Cub Cadet. I paid over 10 grand cash for one of their premium products. I mow about six acres on my land and it never finished mowing one time without breaking down. The dealer was at a loss after picking it up three times to find the issues. I requested my money back. The dealership got zero support from Cub. Only when I got the Attorney General of my state involved in the matter did I get my money back. My local dealer dropped their whole line and has never sold them since. Personally, you couldn’t give me one for personal use. Any manufacturer can build a turd from time to time but them not standing by their products is unacceptable.

[@slipperyblueclay2521]

Wow, what did you end up replacing it with.

[@prevost8686]

Slippery Blue Clay Kubota Diesel.

[@shinatoraneko9652]

Not sure if they beefed up the deck stability in 2021, by my deck seems nice and solid... maybe an updated review with a new model? One bummer though, they eliminated the hour meter, but an easy fix with an after-market one....

[@chopshaze6835]

I thought they just forgot mines just bought one 4 days ago lol

[@g4outdoors]

I’m positive that I won’t have a chance to work with Cub again 🤣. I hope that they have fixed the issue because it really was a comfortable mower.

[@jimmyflowers5806]

I bought mine 3 years ago love it

[@g4outdoors]

I’m pretty sure you DID NOT buy yours 3 years ago.

[@BumpintheNightTV]

I had a vibration after using mine for a year, spindle went bad. I wasn’t going to wait a Month+ for Home Depot to send it off so I bought new spindle at Ace Hardware for $68 fixed it myself in 1 day. been a trooper ever since... and I mow 15 yards a week!!

[@tommyjohnson4162]

Glad I watch video was fixing to buy this mower between mine and my parents about 8 acres a week I definitely want be buying a cub.. how can a zero turn not be able to cut more than a couple acres a week Thanks for the video

[@g4outdoors]

Thanks for watching and commenting! I JUST uploaded my 3 mont review. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGjMYXufo9WoacU

[@hometowndiy9109]

Tommy Johnson. It comes down to service life, how long do you want it to last? If you drive your car 500 miles a day how long will it last vs driving 5 miles a day. These mowers are designed with about a 300 hr service life, which is equivalent to a car having say 150,000 miles on it. Can a car go longer with good maintenance? Sure but it’s going to cost you. For example a full on commercial machine is designed to see 3000 hours.

[@joemyers7567]

Been told my many small engine mechanics that most zero turns should be ran at their full speed because that is how the engine is coooled. The higher the Speed, the more air is pulled across the engine to keep it cool. Obviously, the slower the rpms, the less air gets pulled over the engine causing the engine to run hotter. I have noticed with my 23.5 Kohler on my zero turn that it does run hotter at 3/4 throttle than full throttle.

[@josephatnip2398]

Its not the deck that makes it a residential mower it's the pumps the z-t1 is not serviceable the zt2 is after a thousand hours it's done that's about 10-15 possibly even 20 years for most residential lawn mower applications but it would never hold up running it 5 to 6 hours a day 5 days a week for a commercial business you would burn it up in a summer or two and the pumps cost almost as much as the motor........... The truth it's just a residential mower but it's a nice residential lawn mower

[@christophermaestas9103]

I have a cub cadet riding mower, well I had one. It was a good mower but I always had to jump start it even after putting a new battery in it. I also have friends that have one with the same issue. Anyway, I brought it in to have a tune up and to fix the issues I was having. Got it back yesterday and got on it today mower my yard. Well, I wasn't even on it 15 minutes when the engine caught fire so now I have a new yard ornament.

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

"The ZT1 is only designed for ONE acre" I have a pair of scissors that's only designed to cut a single 8x11 page. Totally out of luck if you have a legal or tabloid size piece of paper, or more than one sheet of letter size paper. I have a knife that only cuts watermelon. Won't even put a dent in a cantelope, an orange, an apple, ... Really bizarre how manufacturers can make products restricted to such odd limitations.

[@hometowndiy9109]

TasteMyStinkhole it comes down to the service life. That machine has a designed service life of about 300 hours. A 1 acre or less lawn will take 10 or more years to hit 300 hours. 3 acres of lawn, that machine will hit 300 hours in about 5 years. It’s equal to owning a car with 150,000 on it. Will most cars make it to that and past with good maintenance? Yes but it will cost you money to do so.

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

@@hometowndiy9109 Wholly sheetzu, fantastic explanation. This is a moment to be celebrated. It is extremely rare that I learn something from a KZbin comment. 🤔😯😃🤯🤜🤛🤝🏆🥇💰🧻💯

[@bettyingle2128]

I am thinking of buying a used 2018 46" zero turn Cub Cadet from my sister. It has 337 hrs on it. She wants 1200. is this a good buy? Don't want to invest this and have to buy a new one soon. Your opinion please.

[@ExtrovertedCenobite]

Went to pick up a ZTX4 60 earlier today. Called the dealer to confirm they had it, I have done my research and even with the negative reviews I figured all makers have negative reviews plus I like the look of this unit. When I arrived at the dealership, I noticed it was scratched and dented plus the blades were rusty and the bolts on the control board were rusty. This is a brand new unit, I asked the salesman if this was used he responded that it is brand new and they just unpacked it. I told him I am uncomfortable paying for a brand new unit in this condition, he responded that many times they unbox them and they have damage plus he told me what's the big deal, the first time you take it out you are going to scratch it. I once again informed him that when I pay for a NEW unit, I expect a new Unit, not some damaged, rusted unit. He offered to take $100 off the unit, I said thanks but NO THANKS, I suppose I hurt his feelings and so we left. Went up the street to a John Deere dealership and picked up a commercial unit that is more expensive and I thank God this happened because I believe I have made the right choice. The lack of professionalism and the fact that these units come from the factory damaged leads me to believe that I was blessed to walk away from cub cadet!

[@davidjudd221]

A lot of dealers leave their mowers outside in the weather. Blows my mind that they do that. I wouldn't leave a $400.00 dollar push mower outside in the elements, let alone a $4,000.00 plus mower. Our local Kubota dealer, leaves all of their Zero Turns out in the weather. Crazy.

[@derpdiggler7619]

I bought one of these yesterday and it works perfectly so far except something is squeaking terribly. Thinking of taking it back to the dealer

[@g4outdoors]

Take advantage of the warranty while you can!

[@Kschalmo1]

Should I be concerned when my zt2 right out of the gate is misaligned? I pull the lap bar straight back and it pulls one way. The same going forward when both bars are fully extended.

[@g4outdoors]

Easy fix. Take the wrench from the holder and just adjust the set screws so that it tracks straight. Make sure you tighten the tension nuts on the backside when you have it set.

[@Kschalmo1]

@@g4outdoors I can adjust those but this is happening in reverse as well. And I don't see an adjustment for that.

[@g4outdoors]

Keith Schalmo I’ll look when I get home bud.

[@Kschalmo1]

@@g4outdoors thanks. I called my dealer today and they came and got it hours later. Great to work with so far. I'll let you know the results.

[@g4outdoors]

Keith Schalmo Dealer support is the #1 factor in buying any mower! Yours sounds great!

[@lawnmowerdude]

I went to a Cub dealer (that sells many other brands too) to get a quote on one of these ZT1s. He keep trying to up sell me on a larger ZT2 because the ZT1 wouldn’t be sufficient. It’s only about 2 to 4 acres. I’ve been mowing that peace of land with a 30 year old John Deere 160 hydro lawn tractor with a 38” deck for 5 plus years. Why is that holding up then?

[@g4outdoors]

Right? My last mower was a 10 year old Cub tractor that I sold in 100% working order. I don’t feel this model will hold up as well. I’m already having little hiccups with the drive motors.

[@timm.6391]

I have the ZT1 with the Kawasaki engine, at 2.5" it deals with K31 quite well, It is tough grass to cut actually

[@jarradpredmore7012]

Do your handles line up? Just curious. I’ve adjusted mine every way possible and one is still about 3/4 of an inch high and forward. Wondering if it’s common across that mower or if I may have a bent arm from the factory.

[@wpowerwagon]

I bought a Cub Cadet 54" ultima ZTX4, and yep mine has vibration,

[@l3arrett82]

are the lights bright enough to see in the pitch black?

[@ds1755]

The cub cadet rep in the video looked like he could care less about a vibrating deck cuz it’s expected. His lack of not caring is unacceptable. Your mower might be sitting up at head quarters like he stated but that’s it, it’s just gonna sit there. Cub cadet is just about selling mowers that cut grass, period. I would’ve gave them the keys & told them to keep them. I never heard of a mower being used just one time a week. Me personally I double cut some times. Thanks for sharing your videos on the cub Cadet but the reliability & customer service gives me red flags. I hope the machine works out great for you.

[@g4outdoors]

I hope it works out too. It's starting to not look like it though. My hands were shaking and numb after this last mow. The vibration is ridiculous! It's not an isolated issue, lol. I'm sure the old one went straight to the trash without any cares given.

[@ds1755]

G4 Outdoors Oh man I’m sorry to hear this. Try getting a pair of “Hyper Tough” work gloves from Walmart for about $10. They should help with the numbness of the hands. As for your old mower your probably right. Lol

[@johncuervo3019]

Have they updated the mower since?

[@mitchbrinkman5500]

I’m looking for my first zero turn mower and fell in love with the look of the ZT1 50. After watching all your vids, thank you for sharing btw, I’m really gun shy about it. I have about 3/4 of an acre so the 50 inch is over kill but I want one so I’m going to buy a zero turn. I am now looking at the Arens as well. It has the 52 fab deck with the kaw 23 horse on it. It just doesn’t look as nice as the ZT1. Any direction and or help would be appreciated by you or anyone else that is knowledgeable about these zero turns. $3,000 is a lot of money for a mower and I finally got the wife sold on it but if it is breaking down all the time she might just divorce me (tongue in cheek, I think...)

[@g4outdoors]

Mitch Brinkman I will be getting an Ariens X42 in a couple of days to demo. Plenty of comparison videos and demo videos coming up!

[@mitchbrinkman5500]

Thank you for replying! I was actually just looking and researching the Ariens 52. After actually seeing it, sitting on it and really giving it a mean mug, I really like it. I think I’m going to get it by this weekend. Kinda feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas! Do you know if you can get the xl tires on the x?

[@g4outdoors]

Mitch Brinkman Not a clue. More than likely, that’s just the way they come. The only options is the motor. A 18hp Kawi, or a 23 hp Cohler. I like kawi’s, but I chose the 23hp. (Insert a Tim Allen grunt here) 🤣.

[@new_england_times553]

@@g4outdoors Thanks, because I plan on buying either the ZT2 50, Hustler Rapture, Ariens, or the Husqvarna Garden Tractor.

[@new_england_times553]

@@g4outdoors I like the John Deere, but not a fan of the 18hp. Sales rep told me it's all about the torque.

[@markhale3493]

Get the optional rear fenders from cub cadet to solve your issue if it slings mud.. and they look great

[@andym1223]

Cub Cadet is still MTD, no matter how good it looks. Components are the exact same, junky, weak components that they use in the Troy Bilt mowers. Its like the saying "you can polish a turd but its still a turd"

[@robk1310]

Exactly

[@chinov9445]

Should make a video of how to get rid of weeds that yard is perfect 😂

[@kevinhawkinberry3654]

you should always be full throttle when you engage your clutch a clutch is electric so the more amps it won't burn the clutch out huge difference between commercial mowers in the mower you have

[@funmon184]

Hello, This is my 3 cub cadet. My late husband had a small one and moved up to a really large zero turn. To big for me. After he passed I sold the large zero turn and got me the ZT1. I got it home and it makes a trouble sound that makes my teeth hurt. I figured it was new and just needs ran a bit, but my son and uncle both can't figure out why it is making that sound. I've had it almost a month and it still makes that sound. It mows well and runs great, but the sound is so bad it makes me hate the thought of turning on the blades. :( Did they tell you how they fixed your problem or what it even was? I just can't figure out what is making the sound. It doesn't matter if it is on high or low speed or if the deck is up or down. :( Help! Thanks

[@Jay_Hall]

First production run of this mower,,never buy the first production run!! 2nd run will be available in mid June, hopefully bugs will be taken care of.

[@g4outdoors]

Jay Hall I agree with not buying first runs for the most part. I was part of a social media marketing team that received this last year pre-release. I bought it at a price no one could pass up. I’m happy with the new mower I received!

[@tonyc9912]

@@g4outdoors I have a ZT1 50" and love it so far. Only 10hrs, but mows awesome. Your biggest complaint is the deck vibrations. Mine doesn't have that vibration and I feel like this mower is getting a bad wrap for the very few mowers that do have the vibration. What is your opinion minus the vibration?

[@2RCPRODUCTIONS]

@@tonyc9912 I love my mower other than the vibration, if I can finally get the vibration solved fully I will be very happy with it all around. Now I'm disappointed and not enjoying it to the fullest..

[@GlynRobinson]

Better yet don’t buy one. Period.

[@g4outdoors]

@@tonyc9912 absolutely love it. Its just fast enough, it's comfortable, I like the lapbar adjustability, I like how far and well it disperses the grass. I will be putting better blades on it to try and improve the cut quality. OH, and I'm starting to have a drive motor issue. At intermittent times, one or the other drive motors will not engage. It doesn't do it all of the time, but there is something going there.

[@Boxycar79]

Hey, are there any updates from cup cadet in terms of the deck, vibration, and tensioner spring?

[@guitarhole]

My machine ( I've only mowed 3 times 1.5 - 2 acre ) is not having vibrating issue . I think you guys are being nitpicky . My old mower was a Yard Machine tractor . Perhaps you should mow a few times with that . Then go back to this one .

[@g4outdoors]

Not being picky at all. I'm getting so much shit with people not knowing how this thing actually vibrates. My hands were numb from the last mow from its vibrations. I've mowed with the best and I've mowed with some real crap mowers. None of them vibrated like this one. I really like everything about it, but,,,,,,, It has good speed, it's comfortable, it's fairly fast, The motor is a beast for this size of this mower, it clears grass from the shoot extremely well, it needs different blades, but I just can't get past the vibrations on this one.

[@Bob-TheTechGuy]

I have the same machine. I am very unhappy with it. WHEN it works, it works great. First one i got was defective. Returned it 2 days later and got another one. That one worked fine first summer. Next summer first day, the blades would not engage. Just nothing on the PTO. 4 weeks at repair center, they gave it back saying "We could not find a problem, but one day it just started working". Wow! Later that summer it happened again. Replaced the relay switch and PTO switch myself and solved it. Cut out a few more times on its own, once was a fuse, other times worked after shutting down then restarting. This Spring, 1st mow same thing, cut off, restarted 3 times then blades worked again. This morning, 2nd mow, same thing and noticed a leak that looks like the hydraulic fluid as its not oil. Wish I could sell it and get something else. Quality is just not there. As I said, WHEN it works, its great. Had had regular oil changes and maint but its just not reliable. Thanks for the video!

[@g4outdoors]

Quality Control must have been on vacation during the week that was built lol. I’ve lost all faith in Cub.

[@sethbanks6511]

I purchased an RZT L powered by a Honda right before these came out. I was kicking myself in the butt because the new ones looked so much better. But it looks like I may have dodged a bullet. The only issue I’ve had out of mine was hitting a large rock and bent a blade. So it was my own fault.

[@theusconstitution1776]

Last year I bought the XT 1 54 inch and we upgraded from the 46 inch craftsman that we had for 30 years and this cub cadet is so tippy. We have hills on the property and the switch in the seat if you just wiggle a little bit, and shut the bar deck off I stayed with my craftsman😎

[@huskerfan7660]

full RPM deck engagement? No wonder their stuff doesn't hold up.. common sense tells me that the more power involved, the more stress on parts.

[@thomasbroking7943]

So you build it better. Not complitated.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

There is no evidence the unite will not hold up with full rpm engagement. You made that part up.

[@kevinhawkinberry3654]

Not try it's electric so full throttle they're not talking about Grandpa's John Deere music commercial mowers so full throttle full amp so that you don't burn the clutch up

[@kevinhawkinberry3654]

Huge difference betweena commercial mower and the mower you have so when I'm mowing at 11 miles an hour I promise you my neck and my back are not getting beat up and it has nothing to do with the speed it's the revolutions of the blade how fast can your blade spin that's what cuts bahia better

[@huskerfan7660]

@@kevinhawkinberry3654 haha, are you spying on me, how do you know what mower I have? The mower in this video is not a commercial mower.

[@DouglasSpannSr]

When I move my handles back or forth it makes a roaring noise. What is that problem?

[@jtraveny]

we have over 4 acres and a lot of hills and it tells me the best is the zt1, i know its not, what do you think would be a good option? i was thinking of looking into the rzt with the steering wheel

[@g4outdoors]

Not a fan of it personally. It is a zero turn, only at full lock on the steering wheel. Other than that you will divot up the lawn by turning sharp.

[@jtraveny]

@@g4outdoors what do you think would be good? i am in PA with a big yards more than 4 acres lot of hills and uneven spots. right now i have a john deere d140 and its not that old but the seat sits way up high and it feels like it wants to tip, i get stuck in it real easy.

[@g4outdoors]

Kudo Shinichi If I had that much property, I would personally go commercial. I really don’t want to say one over the other because I’ve used them all and find they all do great work, it’s just personal preference and dealer support.

[@jtraveny]

@@g4outdoors are zero turns safe to use on properties with a lot of hills and uneven spots?

[@g4outdoors]

Kudo Shinichi Sure! They aren’t as sure footed as a tractor. Just depends on what you are considering a “hill”.

[@stevemolnar4222]

Probably a stupid question but, If you bought a Ultima ZT2 from Home Depot , would it be the same Ultima ZT2 you would buy from a dealer/farm equipment dealership?

[@g4outdoors]

Steve Molnar Same mower. You will have better luck buying from your local dealer for repairs though.

[@nathanial41]

Engaging your blades at full RPM is the WORST thing you can do half throttle at most, it's hard in spindles, clutch, belts and pulleys to engage at full RPM . That Rep is an idiot

[@g4outdoors]

Phillip Kuhn Did you go watch the original video on Cut & Clean channel? I didn’t edit it to look like anything, I just cut the fluff out of it. I think I just bought my last Cub. Sad to say.

[@nathanial41]

@@g4outdoors yes my buddy just bought one, he likes it so far I'm sorry you had that issue. That line about RPM was in your video as well. I've been in the commercial mowing world since 2006 and have always lived by that rule and its served me well.

[@greggreen6636]

Phillip Kuhn alot of mowers you actually are supposed too engage at max rpm. It actually has no impact on spindles and belts. The clutch compensates for it. I own 2 gravely ztr’s. One you engage at max rpm, the other at minimum. Usually your non commercial requires max rpm because of lack of torque, and clutches with less clamping force

[@philkuhn3616]

I have a Scag Freedom Z and engage at full throttle every time. Maybe I'll try the reduced throttle next time and see.

[@philkuhn3616]

Why you steal my name? Lol

[@altonrowell613]

And a mower deck will vibrate more with slow rpm. High rpm keeps the tension out of the belt.

[@toddeberlein965]

I isolated the problem and bought a Lazer-Z

[@g4outdoors]

lol.

[@GlynRobinson]

Lol great decision!

[@MartyInTheWoods]

Hahaha! Very funny!

[@JarvisOutdoors]

That’s great for the people who want to spend $6000+

[@andym1223]

@@JarvisOutdoors better than spending 3k on a fancy troy bilt.

[@tomchepey2999]

Have you tested the ZTS 2 with 2800 transmission and upgraded Koehler engine?

[@shanea3956]

cub cadet. owned several of them. never again!

[@Alanschmalzried]

Shane A Same. My first zero turn was a Cub Cadet...that was a mistake🤮

[@prevost8686]

Owned just one. NEVER ever again for me.

[@DrEVIL-og4qv]

I bought my Cub Cadet TANK LZ 54 COMMERCIAL ZERO TURN AND IT WAS DELIVERED APRIL 21, 2016. It's got 381.4 run time hours on the hour meter. The tachometer function of that meter failed some time during the first mowing with it on April 21, 2016. My only regret is I didn't let the dealer bring me a Tank with a 60 inch deck, my 27 hp Kawi has plenty of power to mow six more inches. I bought a spare for EVERY belt the first month I used it, and haven't had a single belt fail. I do have a sealed greaseless idler pulley that has no way to grease or oil it that makes a squeaking sound, I can just barely hear it when I idle the engine down. I'm going to put some oil on a couple the the idler pulleys and see if the noise goes away. The Kawasaki engine is running better after 8 years and almost 400 hours than it did when new. It starts quicker, needs less choking, and I think uses a bit less gas. I mowed with a Cub Cadet 982 Super Garden tractor that had ALL the options, front and rear pto, frt hyd outlets and hydraulic lift for the 50 inch belly mower. It was a great tractor, but the ONAN engine was a piece of dog dung. I had the feeling a large fireworks display was going to go off under the hood every time I used it. I still have the 1968 Cub Cadet #72 garden tractor I bought about 1973 or '74. I've rebuilt two increasingly larger Kohler engines for it, have a "Killer Kohler" K-341 14 hp, It has most but not all of Dave Kirk's hot-up's on his Killer Kohler write-up on IH Cub Cadet dot Com. And I still have the 1965 Cub Cadet model 70 Dad traded an Original Cub Cadet with the V-belt from the engine to the clutch & driveshaft. Dad lost track of it, last time Him & I saw it it had been repainted red & white by Dad's preferred IH dealer. It wasn't until about sometime in the 1990's he was talking to an old High school buddy at a coffee shop and turns out he'd bought the original about 1965 and it has mowed every week since. My TANK is a great mower. When I start the Kawasaki FX850V 27 hp engine I do not have the feeling it's going to scatter internal engine parts all over the garage like I do with the ONAN in the 982. I thought Duetz maybe made a small 2 or 3 cylinder diesel I could install in it, I've read where guys have installed small diesel engines out of Thermoking Refer units, I'll have to check that out. One thing I will NOT, NEVER EVER DO IS, GET A JOHN Deere. I worked part-time sorting defective parts at Deere Horicon. Believe me, there's NOTHING SPECIAL about their products, except the high cost. Dad farmed, used ALL IH FARMALL tractors, there were a couple green Deere inplements around the place, a 4 row Deere corn planter and a Deere manure spreader He bought a 1940 Deere model B tractor about 1968 to narrow up and pull the spreader thru our hog finishing building, we had a '39 FARMALL H that was twice the tractor the B was but it was traded for a 1954 Farmall Super H, which is about twice the tractor the '39 H was. I spent a LOT of time on the neighbor's Deere tractors, Dad bought me a Deere R diesel for my 10th birthday just before Christmas 1964. It was gone before Easter. It was a gutless wonder, a good FARMALL M could out-work it. In 1968 Dad had the last bid on a 1963 4010 diesel just a week or so before Christmas. We still had a diesel fuel barrel with some fuel in from the R. The 4010 didn't start real well. The starting assist was a FARMALL M and a stout chain. We did make the mistake of starting the 4010 and hooking it to the feed grinder to grind feed for the cattle. Normally the 1951 FARMALL M with the loader ALWAYS did that. Dad handed me the scoop shovel to feed the grinder, the cooling fan blew enough air back to where I was shoveling corn, the diesel exhaust went straight up to the ceiling of the crib's driveway and back down then blown back by me. In about 10 minutes I was about ready to pass out. We NEVER hooked the 4010 to the grinder again. We did use the '54 Super H as a pinch Hitter for a while one summer. Summer of '72 I'm working in town, forget with who, and one day I come home and our Brillion 6 ft rotary mower is parked up against the barn, the blades and the twisted off shaft that held the blades was on top of the mower. I'd mowed HUNDREDS of acres with that mower with my Super H and only ever broke a couple cheap 5/16" diameter bolts used as shear pins. Next day I get home, the Brillion is backed up against the barn again, but the 4010 was gone. The pto shaft on the Brillion only had two u-joints, it set up a terrible oscillation backwards and forward when you turned, I'd had that happen when I used the Super H on the Brillion. But the 4010 in ALL it's great Deere design glory had a bolt-on pto stub shaft, the oscillations overcame the RED Lock-Tite, the split lockwashers, the star type lock washers and the 4 cap screws loosened and flew away one by one until the stub shaft fell off and the pto shifted from 540 to 1000 rpm. I never heard what that repair cost but my guess is a couple Thousand Dollars. Takes Two splits to get to the gears and shafts that were damaged plus cost of the replacement parts. I guess that is as good a reason why NO ONE ELSE AROUND US HAD A 3010 OR 4010. DAD'S BROTHER ABOUT 15 MILES AWAY HAD A 3010 DIESEL. The R diesel Dad had and sold to the township road commissioner also had pto durability issues. The township tore the pto drivetrain out of that R either 3 or 4 times. SOMEONE on the internet told me a month or two ago the r diesel pto could only transmit 15 hp. But the R made over 40 hp. I engaged the PTO every time I got on the R because I was going to use the hydraulics to raise & lower an implement, a plow or disk. The engineer that made that tremendously smart decision should be kicked right in the seat of his pants.