G80 M3 Competition Stock Dyno - How much power does it make?

With the Run In Service completed it was time to see just how much power our G80 M3 makes! Have BMW rated the twin turbo S58 engine correctly? There's only one way to find out...
Thanks to MSL Performance for carrying out the dyno's for us.
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[@JoeAchilles1]

Mega video guys, really interesting to hear the results! Can't wait for mine to arrive, might be a while yet though.... See you soon!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

At least you’ll have those carbon buckets 🤤

[@JoeAchilles1]

@@EvolveAutomotive If only I could swap my passenger one with your driver's seat, that would be the perfect setup 😂👌

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We’ll take that trade 😂

[@unal3266]

@@JoeAchilles1 hahahahahahhahah

[@freddiejones4598]

@@JoeAchilles1 haha do the trade. Bet it would hold value just because it’s unique

[@horismainza7808]

No bullshit straight to the point

[@EvolveAutomotive]

🙏

[@brandongarcia4838]

This car has grown on me so much. It looks so mean and aggressive. The tuning potential seems crazy as well.

[@calum2403]

Yeah man, it’s gonna take slightly longer for me to get used to the M4 though but the M3 looks lovely, especially from the back

[@blocksource4192]

Just want to let you know, there are stage x m3s now with 8.7 quartermiles on dag strip and clean 2.0 0-60s.

[@dagnut]

I love how this entire industry has managed to convince everyone that's its the manufactures that are misleading us about the power of the cars and not their equipment that can't keep. Everyone knows rolling roads are inaccurate yet just chooses to ignore it. I like the caveats he provided at the end, this guy has integrity.

[@ryanwallace8299]

These are gonna be bad ass tuned. 😍

[@TrueFilter]

Won't be possible to tune properly.

[@divz24]

@@TrueFilter what makes you say that

[@TrueFilter]

@@divz24 bmw have locked the DME possibly forever so no cheap quality chip tunes.

[@ryanwallace8299]

@@TrueFilter ECU out. There is nothin that cant be worked around, may take time but no way bmw are going to prevent their cars being tuned, that would be a massive deal breaker for many potential buyers.

[@BaruKz]

Massive Thanks for being the pioneers in the Dyno run and for the ownership. This content brings the channel to another level, my most sincere Congratulations because you really deserve it.

[@Aapee1]

Great stuff. On the point and no nonsense, like allways.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Don’t like to waste people’s time!

[@safifetapolywoodwork1917]

Was there an up-charge

[@PercyN]

I really love how you guys accommodate other countries as well, big ups for the purchase. Cnt wait for more content 🙌

[@mubblemann]

Yes, thank you for giving wheel power figures and not estimated crank numbers.

[@AH4Z]

Lots of room comes with that engine for more power.. good vid.. and looking foward to more.

[@hevendranarayansamy2793]

Nice video. Love the color that you guys picked for your m3. The s58 does make good power much like it's earlier sibling the b58

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Oxide Grey is a great colour.

[@eesa832]

Great car sounds pretty good stock considering the new regulations

[@EvolveAutomotive]

It does!

[@jamisonz3365]

I think it sounds better than my X4M competition... a little bit angrier

[@jamisonz3365]

@Ben Gutteridge Yes but the exhaust system design is a little bit different. X3/4M is like the neglect kid of My Power family. I planned to get an aftermarket exhaust after 5000 miles or something.

[@hasangenc2922]

@@jamisonz3365 aftermarket exhaust on the S58 sounds really angry. Way better than the S55 fartbox.

[@tackycomrade]

Suppose when it’s picked up a few thousand more miles it will be a little bit higher. Cracking engine.

[@kristjanveski]

0:55 Perfect shot of this car.. Jokes aside that's a really nice spec and super impressive baseline numbers!

[@Shift4g]

It took some months, but I no longer have a problem with the grill on these

[@AnagramAutoclassics]

Your presentation just gets better each time. Great to be in the journey with you, Imran. Best, Clive.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Thanks Clive! Its a learning process :-)

[@mixmaster09777]

Your hunch on the power figures was right Imran, driving as many BMWs as you do there is no better barometer than experience! Look forward to how much more you can extract from this new weapon 🔫. Thanks and keep up the great work 💪🏼

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Butt dyno is pretty well calibrated lol

[@monocuco818]

I have always loved the look of this car! I'm pumped to see its performance numbers as the reviews are pretty great!

[@Cookiebit21]

Great video Imran. Can't wait to see what sort of potential you can unlock from the car.

[@ChrisMotorONE]

Very impressive for stock tune!!! There’s a lot of room for improvement on this new engine... a good tune will give this M3 closed to my S63 M6 engine... 👏 bmw

[@jumapelljohn3958]

Wow gonna be fun. This color is so beautiful as well.

[@rossmonkhouse4923]

It’s a fabulous car , the way it sits is special , IMO.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

15mm spacers all round definitely help!

[@aldins4241]

@@EvolveAutomotive Spacers and KW SUSPENSION 😌😍

[@Velodictorian]

I can’t believe I’m saying it but the grille is starting to grow on me

[@Anders_HeymSR30]

Quick, go see a doctor!

[@CylinderHeadE60]

It’s just the bargaining phase of grief, depression comes next.

[@jeffmpower1]

😂🤣😂

[@Sbrumtwn]

First i didn't like it, but now i think it's the best part of the car. Gorgeous!

[@Zenon2006]

everyone needs to see it in person, the grille works with the design and doesn;t look as large as photos

[@immrchris]

Damn that looks great in grey! WANT! looking forward to more videos

[@0brand0brand34]

That grill actually works on the M3/4. Perhaps they should have gone with conventional grill for cooking 4s, just like the 3.

[@zimiggle14]

Fantastic video, keen to see this through

[@bestbesto1345]

After this data and analysis in the Dyno I 'now think that the( G80 M3) will be more powerful and faster than the( F80 M3 ) Nice job I' wish you good luck.

[@TheNinjaSpartin]

Great Vid! More people need to tell the viewers what a dyno is actually for! measuring before and after changes!

[@mattnycm3]

Great video, looking forward to seeing the cars development.

[@mountjoy23]

So glad you went for an M3 in that colour. I’ve only seen an M4 out in the US and it just doesn’t work. Can’t wait to see where you go with this. After watching Frederick Asbo’s/ Papadakis build it looks like this will be a weapon when you get on it. Ps still fighting the urge to S65 swap my E91 with an evolve plenum and intake!

[@ASRmann]

Awesome. But I'd be surprised if it's as fast as a stage 2 F80. Despite the power being similar it's obviously a lot heavier. Very impressive none the less and looking forward to seeing dragy results.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

100-200 testing will show us how fast it really is. Think you’re right it will be closer to a Stage 1 F80 than a Stage 2 because of weight.

[@g.dubyou6263]

I wasn’t into the RWD car, at first. Because if you want to tune it for big hp, you’d want it in AWD. But, the RWD car may be just as awesome. Either way, the car just looks sick. I didn’t think it could get any better. Yeah, the grill is a little questionable, but that rear 3/4 shot, is money. 🙌🙌🙌

[@joshuasherwain]

Great video guys. Thanks also for the comparison to F80. Looking forward to learning more about the new G80.

[@bimmeracing]

I Got one , does a consistent 8,0 sec from 100 to 200. As my previous f80 stage 2 ran 7,5 sec and it dyno 530 hp , so i think 515/20 crank its about right for the new m3 s58 as long its almost 200 kg heavier .

[@EvolveAutomotive]

100-200 testing is next! Interested to see what it does

[@CryptoMikee]

8secs is kinda low for a 460whp car !! Hope they will get into the 5secs with tune and e85 like my F80 do

[@tescoshortage]

I like how the power curve stays flat for about an additional thousand RPM past peak power.

[@safifetapolywoodwork1917]

I love the color

[@bambychoi9366]

Absolutely love it. People are so Butt hurt about the grille.

[@Michael-yz4mc]

I mean it is rather ugly

[@Sbrumtwn]

@@Michael-yz4mc looks gorgeous

[@cawashka]

@@Sbrumtwn indeed

[@J.H.S.H]

I already see an Eventuri livery on the G80 😂 keep up the good content guys

[@laxkid1019]

Great video. It’s interesting to compare the torque curves between the F80 and G80. The G80 comes in a little later and the transition between the torque building and hitting peak torque is very broad when the F80 transition is very quick. This makes sense when you say that the G80 is a lot less snappy and easier to put the power down

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Will definitely contribute to it, along with the ZF gearbox changing smoother.

[@laxkid1019]

@@EvolveAutomotive definitely that makes sense too. Excited to watch your progress with the car!

[@idbrown99]

The xdrive is disengaged via software....to maximize launches, could a custom tune/setting enable xdrive in 1st/2nd gear, disable it starting 3rd gear?

[@dr_tate]

Awesome video!!!

[@richardtrow2751]

Probably more than enough power in stock form 👍 but we love to play with our toys 👌

[@EvolveAutomotive]

More is never enough 😝

[@siljo3]

So 451hp on wheels is 570hp on crank. Why does bmw official tech spec says it is 510hp?

[@SaadyAb]

So the G80 comp and G87 M2 makes only the same wheel HP?!

[@stubones]

I like the grill in conjunction with the bonnet bulges. To my eye it works. It doesn’t work as well on the 4’er though. What is eye watering is the weight… almost as much as the M5 😳

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Don't feel the weight when driving it. Disguises it very well

[@stubones]

No doubt. I’ve seen it show an Alfa Quadrifoglio a clean pair of heels around a track, but it’s crazy for a M3 to weigh 1.8 tons and that’s not even the m xdrive version…

[@mrtubeyou2]

what is meant with "before braking service full power is not enabled"??

[@nathanscaddan2297]

Great video, out of interest how comes you were running it in such a low gear thought it had to be a higher gear to be 1-1 or something like that ? Expected 125 ish mph

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We did not have any input in to how the dyno was operated to keep it independent. Our own dyno cell is being built right now and we will dyno it again and try 5th gear.

[@thatmidlifevlogger4463]

THAT COLOR!!!!!!!!!!

[@fang75429]

Nice video work on the Tacho overlay on the first dyno runs.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Oh we fancy 😏

[@tshepoedwardchiloane9588]

Just wanted to ask... I'm very much interested in owning my own tuning shop, so I wanted to know because I ideally have thought of maybe partnering with an established company like you guys at evolve and at the same time I thought maybe I should just start my own thing without partnerships but I have little idea of where I would need to go to be able to learn to tune like a pro in south africa and also hiring people. Which is obviously the last thing I should be worried about but I would honestly love any advise on where to start and any referrals to companies or institutions that can help with this

[@Dr.saleh9800]

u gotta love the e60 sound

[@harbl2479]

How much worse is the boost threshold and turbo lag compared to the S55? It doesn't look that great under 3.5k rpm

[@tighematthew]

It is a good looking car more you see it..

[@marcovanni1851]

Impressive and well done 👍 Are you going to replace the sport exhaust system and to what ✌️

[@jennyjones5496]

Did no one notice that the dyno run was done in incorrect gear 4th?

[@axelkob5837]

with the BOSCH hardware locked ECUs, will be interesting to see if its possible to ECU tune...

[@EvolveAutomotive]

A waiting game at this point

[@YusufGinnah]

Thanks to the KZbin Algorithm Gods for bringing me here today... Love the content! Instant sub from me! 😎👍🏼

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Welcome 🙏

[@SaligkarAKIS]

What do you mean when you say before breaking service it doesn't have full power? Is there any fail safe ecu mode that its unlocked somehow after service?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

The car has a software update as part of the break in service.

[@danked6731]

Is a bootmod3 stage 2 safe for the m240i

[@Saho_oligarch]

in the end I did not understand how many hp are in this car?

[@SM_TheTraveller]

Loving it guys

[@shortround9134]

Imran, question, did BMW say that the G80 M3 makes 480 bhp from factory so normally are'nt those figures conservative and the car should make more ?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

BMW claim the Competition models make 510hp to the crank

[@moonfly1]

I'd love to see what these guys could do to my old N54

[@STEVEBHPDEVON]

Brilliant video :-)

[@nmarty1122]

I’d assume a stock comp g80 will be a good race for a stage 2 93 f80 since the f80 is 300lbs lighter.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Watch the Dragy video to see how they match up on the road 100-200/60-130

[@unal3266]

Clear information thx guys :) ✌️

[@danielsvendsen3761]

When are you dropping another video on the e36 touring m3 build

[@EvolveAutomotive]

When I have time to actually do something to it 😅 Been very heavy with the G80 content lately meaning no free time to get on to that. I hope to do some more this weekend, probably not enough to make an update video though. I don’t want to put out a video without much real progress in.

[@Famous_Flavours]

Great comparison

[@Leostunzz]

So excited to see what your team will do with it. The car is looking super mean 👍🏻

[@Charlimike24]

I would still make the dynorun last at least 10-14 sek in a higher gear. Sure it will give less powertrainloss and a stable curve.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

On a Dynojet you cannot extend the run as such as far as I know.

[@wdennis1350]

just wondering what is a linked mode? isn't the M3c only have RWD on sale right now? I just kinda confusing

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Linked mode refers to the dyno itself. The front and rear rollers are physically linked so they spin at the same speed.

[@wdennis1350]

@@EvolveAutomotive really appreciate the reply I get it now, thanks you !

[@DiscoWalrus]

Same 60-80 time as f82. Same 0-60 times as well. 460ish whp vs 410ish whp of the f82. 3500~lbs vs 3800~ lbs. it all checks out. This thing is as fast as a stock m4.

[@hasangenc2922]

0-60 is pretty much irrelevant anyway. And 60-80? Who tf measures that lol

[@DiscoWalrus]

@@hasangenc2922 I do. It's a personal thing. 0-60 traction issues. 80-100+ not enough road and law issues. 60-80 more manageable.

[@hasangenc2922]

@@DiscoWalrus not enough road? Where do you live? I have backroads where i can do easily 40-150 runs lol

[@DiscoWalrus]

@@hasangenc2922 Lucky you. There's plenty of long stretches of roads but they're all loaded with excited cops on cocaine and redbull waiting for an M4 to speed past them. Anything over 80 here is reckless driving which holds same weight as DUI. Which is bullshit. I definitely do not need that on my record.

[@hasangenc2922]

@@DiscoWalrus then a fast car is pointless there tbh. Buy a V8 for great sounds while cruising lol

[@Southpark124]

Are the ECUs locked like the '21 Supra?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yep

[@michaelm1105]

Tuned G80C dyno yet? Also any G80 dynos yet?(stick shift)

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Ecu is locked so tuning available at the moment. We do not get the stick shift in the UK

[@SaadyAb]

So a 2024 M2 has more wheel hp than this?

[@timburton1080]

Ramp rate seemed quite high?

[@kanervatie]

I still can't decide if this car looks good or not. I mean it looks amazing from the rear, but the front...I'd still drive one, but the prizetag is around 165 000€ here.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

That’s a lot of money 🥵

[@the-ultimate-mo9177]

Easy answer: more than you can handle. Wait it’s awd ? It’s close to 4000 lbs? I think that’s an Audi bruv. In all seriousness it’s a cool car (the whp is the crank power of f80) but manual only for me. That awd system is good on m5 but makes this a boat.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

This car is RWD, AWD comes out later this year.

[@_Thale_]

I'd like to see what you do for the body kit

[@zayrembert5752]

What color is this, trying to find one in this color in USA

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Oxide Grey!

[@ziggyshah4601]

1200 mile running in service.. done ???

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yep!

[@SH7SH7SH7]

Would have been useful to see how that translated to “engine” horsepower before drivetrain loss but great video 👍🏽

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Doing that translation causes far too many arguments, people can do it themselves to estimate.

[@DroneStrike1776]

510 rated and it's making 470 whp. Yea, BMW is seriously underrating these cars. That's like an 8% drive train loss thru an automatic. Put in perspective, the Camaro SS 455 bhp with an auto and manual is a 20 whp difference, manual putting down more power.

[@deandremay8694]

This car is beautiful.... The grill works

[@stubones]

I agree. Combined with the bonnet bulges it gives it a real thuggish look. It doesn’t work so well on the standard 4 series though.

[@tianshi8474]

wait its 4wd?

[@throwaway2910]

Is it true the new g80 and g82 models cannot be custom tuned? I’ve been hearing a lot of buzz about that. Can you please elaborate?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

It is true, all BMW’s (and other brands that use the same ECU) made after June 2020 (or had software updates) cannot be tuned as the ECU is locked. People are using piggyback devices such as JB4 so far.

[@justmotorsport286]

@@EvolveAutomotive has there been any news on the ECU’s being unlocked? Or any predictions on a time frame before these can be mapped?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Nothing as of yet

[@theequalizer3330]

Syvex it.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Would require them to develop a solution for it! Sadly not as simple as plugging in a stand alone.

[@safifetapolywoodwork1917]

What color is that? And how did you get it?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Oxide Grey. By ordering it.

[@nasosnasos8054]

Love

[@psgizibraza]

Evolve still on top! Will you get an M5 CS?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We won’t, no point for us really.

[@psgizibraza]

@@EvolveAutomotive understand, keep doing great on bimmas !!!

[@johnbmw550i]

Love that.

[@AMAPIANO_FADE]

imran can you tune the bmw m5 for more power

[@EvolveAutomotive]

All M5’s made up until June 2020 yes, after that they are ECU locked.

[@AMAPIANO_FADE]

thats great imran thx for replying to my comment

[@zhaoyangxie]

@@EvolveAutomotive So the newer M5's are no longer tunable?

[@14DENISS88]

@@zhaoyangxie Not for now.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Currently nothing built past June 2020 or had a software update after that is tuneable.

[@Scorpio1075]

I'm shocked by how much less power the S58 puts out below 3.5K, that's where most of your real-world driving happens, makes me fear the new car will feel sluggish when driving around town.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

As soon as you put any real amount of throttle input the car would change down gear to be above that, so I think it’s a non issue.

[@joepere784]

Funny thing is I just watched non competition m3 model on Dyno and it made 509 horsepower on KZbin

[@jstoli996c4s]

Still not liking the front or the gauges, but the rest of the car is sharp. Very fast too.

[@Andyuk911]

Imran, I guess you were running V-Power/tesco 99? Thanks

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Shell V-Power always

[@pauljames3514]

Esso now doing 99 Ron would be interesting to see difference between Tesco, Shell and Esso

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Planning to do a comparison video when our dyno is ready

[@leekindell9937]

so roughly what is that at the crank?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

520 to 540 depending on what drive train loss you want to use

[@BrettL250]

Please forgive me for asking a stupid question. But what does 469 hp at the wheels translate to in horsepower at the crank? And I still don’t understand why you guys in England keep saying it’s 510 hp when BMW clearly says it’s 503 hp. I realize I just don’t understand so can you explain both these questions to me please. Thank you so much. Awesome video. I can’t wait to see more on this car.

[@keltongraham3790]

510 refers to PS, while 503 is BHP

[@_mundi]

So the car is underrated by 20-40hp?

[@TheNubimusic]

Any particular reason for 3rd gear pulls instead of 4th?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

They were done in 4th, you can see the gear indicator in the bottom right corner of the overlay.

[@TheNubimusic]

@@EvolveAutomotive oh yeah missed that. Seems slow for 4th unless its closer to 1.5 than 1

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We had no input on the dyno to keep it independent. When our own is operational we can experiment with gears etc.

[@seanmichaelo9777]

Great vid ! Exactly what I wanted to see 👍💪🙏