BMW M3 Competition 4WD vs 2WD Winter Test

[@henrik_lamar]

The fact that that car with rwd on snow is 5 seconds faster from 0 to 60 than my car is on a dry road really made me realize that I have to buy a new car

[@donkosaki]

It’s km/h Not mph

[@bagofsunshine3916]

@@donkosaki it goes to 100km/h, pretty much 62Mph

[@larsen7024]

damn, the difference between 2 and 4wd is way bigger than expected. great video

[@sebasromero2505]

In snow is like day and night, but in great conditions is not that different.

[@alf3071]

because there is little weight on the back wheels I think

[@IV-A]

Hes giving it full throttle without tc of course its not going to grip. 4wd is really good, but tires make bigger difference.

[@rangerover06sc]

​@@IV-ABut has good tires and 2WD is comparatively terrible

[@alexstromberg7696]

biggset thing to remember is 4wd doesn't break you faster, so get better tires.

[@BlackMight533500]

3:13 how beautiful snow flew off the wheels

[@Lemingtona-x5g]

yeh prob damaged the rubbers on the linkages

[@spirikon6657]

Your using waaay to much throttle for it to be a good comparison. Cool to watch you drive in the snow non the less.

[@sitahada]

i love how bentley driver watched when u perfectly sliding

[@Mechadondada]

Bentley Schmentley

[@allseasons765]

I am no expert but I'd try to not start with full gas on snow. Once tires start slipping they actually grip much less than when not slipping, that applies to any surface. That's why starting in 2nd gear is recommended in snowy conditions to lessen torque and decerease likelihood of tires starting to slip

[@anno1602]

Seriously lol, the guy in the video just floors it and wonders why 2WD doesn't get any traction...

[@emmanuelmijares9731]

I think you accidentally discovered the coefficient of friction 😂

[@yungrichnbroke5199]

@@anno1602regardless it underperforms AWD lol but it’s not like 0

[@anno1602]

@@emmanuelmijares9731 it's not so much the coefficient of friction. Spinning tires melt the snow and create an even slippier surface, reducing your grip.

[@theguywithone]

Unless it's a Subaru. I love BMWs, but no one has come close to matching the traction under any conditions than Subaru.

[@mpc007]

So cool they finally developed a 100% switchable system.

[@Glocktavius_the3rd]

This is nothing new. They’ve been having this system on American trucks for awhile now

[@compilemarley]

Mercedes has it too in the 4matic system

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@Glocktavius_the3rd not the same

[@Youtubefuckingsucks-k9n]

Audi has had this since the 90’s

[@compilemarley]

@@KZbinfuckingsucks-k9n Audi can't make 100% of the power go to the rears in quattro

[@alexest2665]

So i went to change my summer tires today for winter ones in Tallinn and i'm driving a RWD Lexus GS. The next car will be ONLY AWD. I've had just about enough of wheel spin. Everyone is off the line and here i am, waiting for the wheel spin to be over. Great video !

[@colinoxenham6124]

Breaking news: 4wd bests 2wd in snow! Jokes aside, cool comparisons.

[@alnilam8048]

Where was the jokes?

[@colinoxenham6124]

@@alnilam8048 Sir, I was making a joke.

[@frenek5678]

@@alnilam8048 where is the news, that 4wd is better than 2wd in snow or slippy ground ?

[@dazauto107]

4wd gets you to the scene of your accident faster in bad conditions 🤣

[@Matt-ji9ft]

Breaking news turning traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle isn't going to drive very well in the snow...

[@ilgatto7327]

The G80 M3 can do subzero temperatures as well. I drive my 2 WD G80 a couple weeks ago in temperatures of -38C with no problem at all.

[@goldblade84]

I once had a dance off with a BMW in a snowy parking lot, and it was so cool seeing FWD 4WD vs. RWD 4WD. I did out do the BMW on one trick (drive forward, slam the brakes, lock the wheels, put into R and full throttle before hitting the wall), and he tried it but didn't work as well. Now I have a M240i know why, you can't go into R from Manual mode :(

[@donnierion9347]

Great comparison video. So many people say RWD is perfectly good in snow with winter tires... and it "can be" depending on the circumstances, but this really shows how superior AWD is overall. And once you mod the G8X platform, the first two gears become worthless unless it's 100 degrees out with sticky tires and you roll into the throttle.

[@faYte0607]

That is a beautiful color. Looks awesome in the snow!

[@Homobikerus]

On my F30 xDrive the traction mode also chances the launching in the snow completely. So I feel like it's not exactly a comprehensive comparison, it's not only the number of wheels that's important. I do love those 4wd donuts though - I remember how ecstatic I was when I learned the car can practically lock itself in the perpetual rotation around its own center axis! Awesome feeling!

[@tremell7559]

Thumbs up for the effort of the cameraman!

[@M3ANDER]

One of his low paid employes - or why do you think he's got fingers like a piano player?

[@Alpeueli]

I Love my Subaru.

[@Buttaknife]

I have one of these. Although I hope to never be in this situation, I'm glad it can handle it if necessary.

[@UT3CTF]

Nice! And that's the reason why people should get a brand-new BMW instead of getting used and then complain about its reliability

[@fatphoca5009]

Why would you ever spin your wheels and rev so hard in the snow anyway? At least drive normally if you want to do a test.

[@tigri4901]

Exactly this..... Result would be so much better if throttle control was good.

[@fatbikedad384]

Cool test! The incremental gain is way bigger than what other journalists lead us to believe! I’ll not be pulling the trigger on that i4 e40 and keep my 440 x drive. Thanks!

[@zizoclever]

Finally someone tested this. Always wondered 🔥

[@mrz5705]

This is truly stunning ! You very rarely see tests like this.Perfect 👌

[@Aizman87]

2wd is good enough 9 out of 10 times and it more fun to drift imo. 4wd is only for the practical needs. I have driven only rwd for 18 years now here in norway with zero problems. its more about the driver than anything. a little momentum and u get up almost anywhere you need.

[@jessecrwn]

100% agree. I am now with my rwd M140i in Lapland in Finland and I am really surprised how capable it is. I haven’t been stuck once and there is a lot of snow here. I run Hankook Icept 3 winter tyres and have a LSD.

[@Aizman87]

@@jessecrwn sounds like a lot of fun👌🏻

[@minigiant8998]

well the m3 xdrive can be RWD or AWD. best of both worlds.

[@jessecrwn]

@@minigiant8998 yes definitely!

[@minigiant8998]

i was in puerto rico last week and saw the most beautiful IOMG m3... really sparkled in the sunshine!

[@dulalg18]

Man, def one of the best video out there for Gx platforms lol

[@2usename]

middle of nowhere: m3 g80 doing donuts and Bentley casually drives by

[@lmaojasey921]

Great video! Please do another one this winter, but try heavy braking and braking in general from 100-0km/h, etc!

[@John64125]

That’s an unusual technique to take off in snow. Floor it and wonder why you aren’t moving?

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

Good to know that ground clearance is good on BMW M cars, which makes them useable in Winter (unlike Toyota Supra, and by extension I assume BMW Z4)

[@Cubic72]

Doing this with a BMW in the winter is my dream since I was child. Hope I achieve it one day! :)

[@vintagetriplex3728]

Cool. The real wheel drive BMW M3 has a 4wd as if it is a pick up truck. I never thought that would be in a sedan.

[@DavidStampfer-w1e]

Looks like fun! I have driven RWD cars in light to moderate snow with winter tires for many years (E46 M3-> 1st gen Cadillac CTS-V-> E90 M3). Works OK much of the time but it's not ideal. I just moved to a '24 G80 M3 X-drive myself and decided not to get winter wheels and tires (est. $5000) and to drive it only when the streets are salt free. While I'm sure it would perform quite well as you've demonstrated, I have another winter vehicle that I'm more comfortable subjecting to the harsh conditions. I just want to point out that driving this car in 2WD mode for comparison doesn't necessarily equate to driving an M3-competition non-X-drive unless you are particularly careful about the traction and stability control settings which may need to be off or partially off to put it in that mode and then may compromise snow performance compared with other RWD cars.

[@thebimmerbros]

Thanks for the comment. Nice move you made :) And you are right about the 2WD. I can't enable traction control in that mode. It's not a 100% fair comparison, but seemed like a fun video to make. I always wonder why don't people just buy the winter tires and swap them on your wheels? Been doing that for all my cars. Costs like $50-60 to swap all 4.

[@DavidStampfer-w1e]

I've always had dedicated winter wheels + tires which I've swapped myself 12/1 and 4/1 each season (usually in a square setup 1" smaller than stock rims). For my past vehicles I've found that winter tires were not available for stock rims so there wasn't an option to just change the tires. Also, I've been told that mounting/unmounting isn't good for the tires when done repeatedly and they may scratch your rims each time they do it. I'm impressed you can get it done for that price. I've been charged $30 for each when I mount new tires. @@thebimmerbros

[@CarsGarage]

Awesome vid 😀

[@GuitarIv69]

Man I hope you let the engine warm up before that 😂 Great video and demonstrates the difference quite well. Thank you!

[@thebimmerbros]

I did, don't worry :D

[@zlaman222]

Michelin Pilot Alpin tires are not designed for such weather, try some arctic tyres like GoodYear ultragrip ice 2, noakian r5, continental Viking contact. They will be drivable with RWD

[@samiwasti8400]

Those tires must suck. I drove in the same amount of snow in my Michelin Pilot sport all season 4’s and they seemed just as good if not better. I also have an M3C Xdrive

[@christianbayerstein5243]

4 Wheel drive is a must for a 500 hp car. Anybody who orders the 2 wheel drive is ridiculous.

[@dazauto107]

Yes, 4wd for traction. 4 season tyres for safety in winter.

[@desertrat6373]

I'm a BMW fan... a what's the difference between the xdrive and AWD? or is there?

[@Chris-yt1nu]

I have an M550i with X-Drive and have never got stuck in snow. I didn't know I could switch from 2 to 4. Is X-Drive the same as 4 wheel drive? Very good video, thanks.

[@darylmorse]

Not exactly a surprising result, but it was impressive!

[@frederickyan]

This is expected without any suprise. But the one who get the 2wd is just for the fun side.

[@skottu]

Visit Sweden in the winter and learn from 15 years old children how to drive a rear wheel drive car on snow. 😂

[@Ванек-я7п]

Сравнительный тест хороший, но резина не подходит для такого количества снега, она больше для европейских зим

[@dutchman9775]

I don’t know why anyone would buy the new M3 without AWD. It’s worth the money and help hold its resale value.

[@minigiant8998]

b/c the stick shift only comes in RWD.

[@SimonaBret]

broo that looks sooo nice

[@kamranahmed6800]

Enjoyed watching this

[@CodeUnknownTV]

Ugh BMW colors are so 🔥 🔥

[@ICEcoldNordicc]

As michelin x-ice snow user the alpine 5 is horrible tyre in snow and ice

[@mikaelvellmun7228]

Disagree def not horrible in snow. Far better than all seasons and all weather tires. Way better on dry and slush compared to x ice

[@_Philip_.]

you are very smooth on the gas heheh

[@newfinishautospa]

You would be amazed what only 100lbs of sandbags in the trunk does for your snow grip. Try that and test it for us.

[@adrianmurray6600]

All wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. Big difference and it's important that people don't confuse the two. I see it confused the most in the UK where actual 4 wheel drive vehicles must be a rarity (other than Land Rovers, I guess.) Maybe the Brits don't do much off-roading? Because the difference is profound once the terrain gets rough.

[@petrmiskerik]

The G80 represents an impressive generation of the M3, which I hold in high regard; however, I find the absence of a manual transmission to be somewhat disappointing.

[@genderlessyoutubefanperson]

How do you like those Alpin 5? I can't decide between Michelin X-Ice Snow and Michelin Alpin 5 for my 2024 X3M. I downsized from 21 OEM wheels and bought a set of OEM X5 wheels 20x9 to fit my winter tires.

[@Vnfx]

Really good driver, and very very nice test, but i still prefer audi's quattro

[@kleyton99]

Great vid! Buuuuuut, let's not pass by that very nice Bentley CGT passing by :)

[@leetshots]

bentley just cruising through "how uncouth"

[@DemirMT]

New M models has changed the range , they are more capable able can do lots of things . Go on track days , drift around , do winter hillclimbs , change to 2WD or 4WD use it in winter they are crazy . new M3 Touring is also incredible saloon model doesn't have any difference while driving . comparing to G80 . M'2 G87 is also very fun in steering/size factors. Gxx Are pretty much all rounders......

[@izacah85]

What a beautiful video!

[@franktitas7539]

👍cool Video BMW M Forever!

[@aldra744]

nice winter and nice car

[@sgrulido]

in almost all parts of the world when it's winter there is no such snow so I would call it "heavy snow test" ;)

[@Michael-MiB]

Sehr schön! Dieses Video liefert mir den Beweis. Ich fahre mit Xdrive eben doch besser. Rallye-Style sieht einfach doch cooler aus.

[@honza2755]

Amazing video! Can you do something similar with 4WD sport?

[@lastlondon]

Now try a 911 c2 in same conditions ; pretty sure it’ll match or beat the BMW’s AWD time.

[@alexeivoloshin5984]

You need better tires and be easier on the gas pedal.

[@ZKTheGreat]

4:17 nice Bentley

[@raitpajundi556]

Pilot Alpin 5 ju lääne euroopa lamell, mis meie talves paras prügi. Miks päris talverehve ei kasuta?

[@miikael000]

Väidetavalt sellises suuruses naelrehve pole.

[@michawu4401]

What a great video. Thanks for sharing

[@lecros2485]

even if I really like BMW, it's ridiculous to have the choice in the vehicle between 2wd and 4wd because when you are in 4wd you no longer want to go back to 2wd. And in the turns there is almost no need to brake so you go faster by staying on the trajectory and you save fuel because in general with a 2wd you often brake like all cars when entering turns or of certain roundabouts to then reaccelerate. but be careful because on BMW there are still many problems with the xdrive. It’s still a nice video, thank you.

[@iskandarzulkar725]

НА ТАКОМ СНЕГУ МОЖНО ДАЖЕ НА ВЕЛИКЕ ПРОЕХАТЬ 😂😂😂

[@kentao4]

This is the only reason I’d want and automatic m3… although I think they need a manual xdrive

[@anon1231]

A mechanic told me XDrive have problems. Have you had any?

[@matthewbonciu7622]

Awesome test

[@audegottoeaudegottoe363]

Have à Wonderful New Year's!// thanks

[@okuliarerayban9481]

Great test thanks

[@rpdrpd4153]

It’s probably safe to say most people don’t drive their M3 Comps in any type of snowy weather

[@octaviancirlig9171]

Hey man, what tire sizes you run on the winter tires?

[@yarikstuntrider]

*Good*

[@Professional_internet]

So, what’s the advantage of 2WD in the back with a front engine? Especially the advantage over 4WD? Why did they do this?

[@John64125]

For the purist it’s the ultimate in handling. The RWD car can be made to oversteer, understeer and drift easily. The balance in dry weather is pretty much perfect. Steering is generally better because it has more feel, 4WD creates a bit of tension in the steering that’s not present in RWD cars. In real life for car with this much power 4WD is the better, more useable, option. It’s fantastic playing around with a RWD car on a track destroying someone else’s tyres if you get the chance!

[@darknight_king]

wow! next m3 dyno 2wd, 4wd plz

[@dimmacommunication]

Have you tried the Wagon version? do you like it?

[@simsnqta]

Just comes to show how adding half a ton of weight makes it struggle. Anyone with an old RWD BMW can tell you this M3 sucks in snow in RWD only. I've climbed steep snowed streets on summer tyres in my 1998 E39 but it weighs about 1400kg.

[@marcelocastellani]

I guess when the car is in RWD mode the traction control action is intentionally diminished to make the car sportier. That’s the reason why BMW would put a RWD option in a AWD car, so it gets easier for you to do things like drifting. That’s why the performance in snow is so worse with RWD mode. If you want the best traction possible go for AWD.

[@JustinTurnerman]

Looks fun, nice ride.

[@Osajunior90]

4W

[@akbar-98]

BMW FOREVER 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Killer315ss]

4:15 Nice Bentley Catching

[@mikkdoo]

Really nice!

[@Matt-ji9ft]

Are we really doing this with traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle?

[@jean-claudevijt4695]

You need studded nordic winter tires.

[@Lemingtona-x5g]

the underside of that car will be damaged from the donuts in the snow. just having snow tyres on can make a different without need for 4wd

[@BrewsAndBraaps]

Wow, 4wd is better than 2wd when traction is limited. Amazing!

[@dazauto107]

Obviously! And grip comes from your tyres, not your drive system. Obviously.

[@BrewsAndBraaps]

@@dazauto107 hard compound racing slick tires at 80psi (5.5 bar) will provide the best traction in snow and icy conditions.

[@andreasarras3084]

Mammutis keegi päeval mölisema ei tulnud? :D

[@brabusizm]

Dude, try to very soft press on accelerate. You will impressed.

[@inline6-b586]

I noticed with dsc off in snow, my bmw grips harder… i was new to bmw x drive, i had a honda accord before lol

[@TheMicky12345]

maybe also learn how to drive in snow ;) way to much revs, you make the wheels spin when totally not wanted, do the same test with as low revs as possible, there will still be a huge difference, but this is just showing off with sounds... I'm more of a Quattro man :) BUT great vid! and i love the sound hahaha thanx for sharing!!!

[@snoransturlasson6723]

Since it's Estonia i assume studded tires?

[@Zixung]

Awesome 🔥

[@DCAKAJ]

perfect example of "money doesnt buy skills"

[@uwkcal]

Its a no brainer togo Awd basically. M3 competition awd ftw.. they dont make awd manuals do they