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@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
Hope you guys enjoyed it and don't hate me for not having footage! Live on Twitch: www.twitch.tv/varsitygamingtv
@poppin30156 жыл бұрын
VarsityGaming I won’t hate you. I’m just gonna riot.
@LoneLoaf6 жыл бұрын
Your going to have to make this a yearly series because of all the exceptions Ubisoft introduces.
@ravenousturtle84986 жыл бұрын
castle counters buck
@kamehameha73786 жыл бұрын
VarsityGaming RIOT No problem Chris you are the best
@bobbybenny126 жыл бұрын
VarsityGaming MY DADDY
@josephwhitman86336 жыл бұрын
Blackbeard is only negated by the Ubisoft balancing team Dead
@FBI_Agent216 жыл бұрын
Fish Fish Going by the color it would be better describes as "Destroyed"
@marcthecanadian4 жыл бұрын
Uh huh like cav
@taylonnguyen44496 жыл бұрын
Fuze counters keeping hostage alive
@orlyrubio3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@stonemahan85456 жыл бұрын
12:16 I love you for that varsity 😂
@aaronryder40086 жыл бұрын
Stone Mahan ifkr bb mains will be super offended by it lmao
@drunkenskeleton2996 жыл бұрын
Stone Mahan A1
@oppotato54406 жыл бұрын
made me laugh
@tsblock52306 жыл бұрын
Lol
@leonafires93046 жыл бұрын
I laught so hard lmao
@tc60256 жыл бұрын
IQ can actually track Echo's wristband too..
@trolltenks64336 жыл бұрын
T C And a defender when checking cams
@tc60256 жыл бұрын
Trolltenks Yep & when they reset their phone...
@Gibbypastrami6 жыл бұрын
well yeah lol, its his version of a phone to look at cams, and all ops phones show up on IQs scanner
@venom93706 жыл бұрын
And when Vigil has his jammer active.
@DereC5195 жыл бұрын
T C woah they actually accounted for everything
@ZaBrowski6 жыл бұрын
Capitaos bolts aren't T H I C C enough to be targeted
@somedude68336 жыл бұрын
then why isn't IQ or Ela targeted?
@oliverturner1286 жыл бұрын
played a 1000 hours of this game, still watched all of it....
@owenmikucki66066 жыл бұрын
Oliver Turner same
@brendan44256 жыл бұрын
41.667 days of siege
@ElusiveSmi7y6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Turner ya same
@franklaue79024 жыл бұрын
200 hours and im like you
@catmanlol4 жыл бұрын
lol same
@UPSBHenryS6 жыл бұрын
Last time i was this early, Blackbeard has only one 800hp rifle shield
@sadsixclone15126 жыл бұрын
HenryS Steam Original?
@ElusiveSmi7y6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the good black beard
@lettuce23836 жыл бұрын
HenryS Steam actually just shut up
@Inniyasha6 жыл бұрын
Now it’s some surran wrap
@dansaunders16556 жыл бұрын
ADS Systems. Active Defense System Systems.
@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
+theEctoBiographer the meme machine I noticed that in editing and was wondering if anyone would call me out on it, so I didn't bother re-recording it
@dansaunders16556 жыл бұрын
VarsityGaming gotta be a little sharper than that to get past the KZbin Comment Pedants™ lmao
@edo13476 жыл бұрын
theEctoBiographer the meme machine does it affect the quality of the information trying to be portrayed? No.
@dansaunders16556 жыл бұрын
PunyCheese wow ok
@fftgamer6 жыл бұрын
For Capitao, it can be argued that the ADS is hitting a projectile that is a eggshell in some way. X-Kairos are egg shape till they "splat" onto surfaces, becoming that flower shape, same with most grenade-like gadgets. But Ash's is more like a drill, and shaped differently, thus harder for an automated turret to possibly discern as a threat. Plus it makes sense that the ADS knows to shoot and hit a shell in flight (Jager's video says it's for anti-tank originally), and grenades are shaped similarly. Also, just rupturing a grenade or grenade-like gadget is usually enough to disable it. Capitao's bolts are smaller explosives strapped to bolts, so maybe the bolt shape is an issue, or the explosive is small enough to escape notice. Just a "theory", playing devil's advocate.
@Reshi99845 жыл бұрын
They aren't flowers there fidget spinners
@axerace56186 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Jäger still had acog
@olivermcmillan66376 жыл бұрын
You're clever.
@jugg12666 жыл бұрын
AxeR Ace ok Kim Jong Un
@draconicdust34356 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this late smoke/sledge still had their acog.
@thebigyes84826 жыл бұрын
AxeR Ace so like only two seasons ago
@yogihomer6 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Jager and Bandit Acog
@yoboymarigy57496 жыл бұрын
The Blackbeard 😂😂😂
@alexhickey88836 жыл бұрын
RIOT!!!!
@deathdaddy3716 жыл бұрын
Varsity I am New in RainbowSixSeige so could you tell me, being a teacher in siege school "What's in the canister?"
@somedude68336 жыл бұрын
it's fookin lasoor sooights mate
@alexonian29403 жыл бұрын
The bathroom?
@ekkuno90726 жыл бұрын
Blackbeard lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nickvalentine62436 жыл бұрын
.... whats so funny about blackbeard
@Camille_926 жыл бұрын
You haven't played enough so you wont understand. Basically blackbeard was nerfed into oblivion, his shield loses to a pea shooter now and it no longer really stand a chance against anything so he does not exactly counter anyone, not to mention that he moves like a fat boy when his shield is on 1 speed.. he only has smal uses on hatches and windows still.
@shadowling777776 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@lirraci6 жыл бұрын
WarezStuff he's still the peeking god so imo he is still good
@TheStickpeople10006 жыл бұрын
15:50 it's probably because they didn't want to make another animation, or have people question why echo has a phone as well as the wristpad. It happened to line up with a minor balance decision so that echo isn't as easy to find while he's in yokai (which is most the time). If it didn't work like that, then the phone call would take him *out* of yokai which would be even worse. It's balance.
@dementedlemur69856 жыл бұрын
InsomniPop yeah they should still have given this reason instead of the reason being they worked together
@pure-3326 жыл бұрын
Demented Lemur why? It’s doesn’t need to be a novel. It’s a simple, believable reason nothing more nothing less.
@Your_Mother8815 жыл бұрын
Dude you ripped into Blackbeard faster than Ash can extract a hostage.
@Pengwertle6 жыл бұрын
6:36 Lesion forces Montagne to drop his shield
@sanjeev62626 жыл бұрын
Megan Mecaapble technically he doesn’t force him out but he has to.
@Hemlock326 жыл бұрын
No, he doesn't
@frogredstar38646 жыл бұрын
It does not, necessarily. His shield can still be extended, but he will lose health. Varsity is discussing the gadgets by themselves.
@bogdan67906 жыл бұрын
Nope
@mr.doppelganger47166 жыл бұрын
Frog Redstar smoke's canister doesnt either, and he put them as a counter, so it is kinda the same
Caveira's name is actually pronounced more like "Cav-ey-ra", since it has an EI not IE. Nice vid though!
@chromeheartedbandit5 жыл бұрын
Ur not smart it's Cav-ey-erah or Cahv-erah
@Hurricain574 жыл бұрын
WaveSkope if you bothered to look it up it’s pronounced just like OP suggested.
@wubzt3r4 жыл бұрын
I just pronounce some of them likes foods. Caveira is Caviar, Mozzie is Mozzarella, and Lesion is Lasagna. Oh and Vigil is Vagina.
@Marniv20024 жыл бұрын
@@wubzt3r ha ha.
@Str4wB3rryJ3 жыл бұрын
I bbn literally call her cav
@ross.metcalf5 жыл бұрын
A couple interesting things with Dokkaebi: 1. Mute's jammers block her logic bomb while the defender is standing within the jammer radius. When the defender leaves the radius, the logic bomb will still hit. 2. IQ can see defenders while channeling with their phone out to turn off the logic bomb attack from Dokkaebi. Also, Sledge's hammer can break otherwise indestructible bullet-proof cameras.
@Haldaemon6 жыл бұрын
Mute jams blitz’s shield. It’s wired directly. There’s nothing to jam. Makes no goddamn sense.
@tfurnzo6 жыл бұрын
Garrett Haldeman when the game first came out, they thought mute wasn’t very powerful, and they thought blitz would run rapid, hence the unrealistic mechanic
@Haldaemon6 жыл бұрын
Thomuz FurnZ warranted or not it certainly fits as an inconsistency.
@tfurnzo6 жыл бұрын
Garrett Haldeman yes Ik, but the idea of Mira being able to put a bulletproof glass window on a wall in seconds is fucking weird too, it’s a science fiction-esk game
@captnmemelord31106 жыл бұрын
Garrett Haldeman yes it does because it has to be remotely triggered
@jasperzanovich25046 жыл бұрын
+Thomuz FurnZ Even SciFi has to adhere to rules. The rules they set themselves. Even the good fantasy magic adheres to consistent rules. +I'm good at video games It's a cable, there is no radio signal to jam. Mute jams radio signals, hence why it doesn't work on Ash's charges. I also don't think it would work on Jackal's visor.
@rogergoza31806 жыл бұрын
That jab at Blackbeard was great
@someonekillme13616 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt Jager destroy the ash charge?
@borismuller866 жыл бұрын
Someone Kill Me yeah otherwise they’d both counter each other...
@TR8RA33A3IN6 жыл бұрын
Same for Zofia's grenades too
@iPhonix076 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the range, maybe the explosion can destroy the ads if close enough but not too much to the point where the ads will destroy the round?
@Hemlock326 жыл бұрын
No, Ash's explosions can be fired at a wall or ceiling from below to blow it up Firing it directly at it will result in the Ash's gadget being destroyed
@cloroxbleach-bh8tv6 жыл бұрын
Someone Kill Me he does
@eugensekesan6586 жыл бұрын
You did a great job simplifying the interactions because it is really complex since there are a lot of gadgets
@Alex-lf1cl6 жыл бұрын
Last time I came this early I was dumped
@sadsixclone15126 жыл бұрын
Alex Curtis sad and original
@teipeu90336 жыл бұрын
Alex Curtis you’re so clever
@goldenstone026 жыл бұрын
Blackbeard though
@jamessawley2136 жыл бұрын
You never mentioned that frosts welcome mats counter your ankles.
@brandondooma28254 жыл бұрын
Your dedication to do the most is astonishing I love it
@gnaysamoht1786 жыл бұрын
Hibana kinda counters jager because some people I’ve seen shoot the pellets into a room of adss to make them run out of charges
@connormac44016 жыл бұрын
horrible trade imo. I'd rather use Fuze to trade ADS charges. One fuze can use up almost two ADS
@tfurnzo6 жыл бұрын
Lmao what, jager ads does not destroy HIBANA pellets
@FadeGlow6 жыл бұрын
Thomuz FurnZ it does
@tfurnzo6 жыл бұрын
Fade_Glow it really doesnt
@FadeGlow6 жыл бұрын
Thomuz FurnZ there is video of a pro league player doing it
@GageowagoGamer6 жыл бұрын
I know you probably won't see this, but there are three more minor interactions to mention. Glaz's scope counters the visual part of smoke's grenades since he can see right through them, although there is still damage from it. The other two are sort of connected because they both counter the same gadget. Sledge and Buck both counter Mira's black mirror if it is on a non-reinforced wall. The only problem is that they sort of have to get close.
@aye-jae6 жыл бұрын
Thatcher should be able to disable phones for some time
@vryyyx6 жыл бұрын
AJ S incumming
@ElusiveSmi7y6 жыл бұрын
Ya I have always wanted that
@bloodsportgaming50156 жыл бұрын
I like the concept for your Varsity Gaming logo. Also, props on the quality content. Siege school is what the community needs to bring in more players!
@muhaimenahmed30536 жыл бұрын
For someone who thinks about siege so technically, it's disappointing to see you not understand why Ubisoft is making some operators have unique perks. Operator perks have been around for a while, a good example is kapitaos arrow not getting hit by jager's ADS. The ads doesn't interact with the arrow because from a balancing perspective, an ADS is too easy of a hard counter to kapitao, there wpuld be almost no reason to pick him. Thatcher has many unique interactions (perks) with his emp. It doesn't friendly fire, and it doesn't deactivate phones or destroy gadgets that are in your inventory. Ela and zophia need to be resistant to concussion grenades because of the inconsistency of the nades. As both characters ill get hit by my own grenade from behind a wall at times. This makes camping near a grizmot more doable. Echo's phone doesn't get affected by dokkaebi because dokkaebi wpuld be overpowered on diffuser game mode. Where a team can just save both phonecalls until they need to plant, and buy enough time to get a plant down without taking out the drone or echo. In the past, Ubisoft never told us about unique operator interactions like this, people would find out the hard way or from the internet. These little lore perks are mostly here to help balance inter operator interactions and help inform the community of the interactions in an entertaining way.
@Jonathan-zj6to6 жыл бұрын
for the polish tho it's definitely cuz they ripped them off of a season tho : -higher resistance to their gadget -special pistol sight -special laser -zofia "withstand" -the essence of ela
@mr.doppelganger47166 жыл бұрын
lol wut essence? XDDDD, what did you mean?
@Jonathan-zj6to6 жыл бұрын
cuz like everything about her is so good
@Mannyvg6 жыл бұрын
lol wut a red dot on a pistol is nothing game changing at all withstand to 1hp is very rare because you either get finished off or revived people complain like these guys are just invincible im not a main of ela or zofia and i beat them all the time Gold 1-2
@dementedlemur69856 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I don't deem the reasoning behind zofia being "that tough" as a balance reason behind her withstand rare or not
@ThunderSkull2146 жыл бұрын
3:30 and with the release of Operation Chimera, it can "Jam" Lion's ability, so if you're moving while on a jammer, you can't get detected by Lion's ability.
@wilthompson635 жыл бұрын
Fuse can also destroy the hostage😂🤣
@noremacecir55036 жыл бұрын
great video! I would've added that glaz's gadget (his scope) negates smoke's gas canisters but only on the visual aspect because he can see through it and sometimes smoke will try to use his gas canisters to block vision so he can get out of a situation
@CrypticElements6 жыл бұрын
This looks really good :o
@andrewhaseth63035 жыл бұрын
11:00 It temporarily disabled Pulse’s Heartbeat Sensor too
@Masswesker26 жыл бұрын
12:02 I remember hearing Hibana being a good counter to Jager's ads . If you spare one shot so you can shoot in the 6 pellets to take out ads near the path you fire in.
@Masswesker26 жыл бұрын
Not to mention a ying charge placed on a breachable wall being a good counter against nearby ads,
@misheck38616 жыл бұрын
on the capitao's bolts, you'll have to understand how real ads work on tanks. if the device/object coming in is too small it wont be picked up by the receiver. so if we follow that concept it really makes sense. btw thanks for this vid things make way more sense now.
@evs28956 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 3D renders of the gadgets from? They look awesome.
@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
+Evoid on the ubi website. There is apparently a tab for operators and it shows every single gadget. To save the image though I had to inspect the source code and find the image file, open it in a new tab, then save it. Not too bad but slightly annoying.
@evs28956 жыл бұрын
Oh ok. Thanks a lot Chris!
@afterpasthours75046 жыл бұрын
The inconsistency with Jäger may be that the ADS can’t really intercept or destroy an arrow fired from a crossbow, the bolts are fairly small since they aren’t normal arrows and are instead smoke equipped and gas equipped. Most things the ADS can shoot are round in nature and are spheres or balls, I think it’d be slightly different with shooting an arrow shaft. So I think there’s more surface area with grenades and such the ADS can fire at, or the ADS simply can’t recognise or track arrows.
@homopeetteri50666 жыл бұрын
dokkaebi kinda counters valk bc you cant use the cams while she is calling the defenders
@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
+Homo Peetteri I considered this but it doesn't counter the gadget which is just the blackeye camera itself. It counters the ability to look at cameras overall. So not a direct counter technically.
@homopeetteri50666 жыл бұрын
VarsityGaming oh I see
@specter.-23256 жыл бұрын
Homo Peetteri don’t forget she can also hack the cams
@melosbunjaku27436 жыл бұрын
It's magical when Caveira becomes Caviera. I guess she loves fish-eggs so much that she renamed herself.
@Pon1bcd6 жыл бұрын
Can you not see vigil when aiming down sights with glaz, when vigil is invisible.
@Pon1bcd6 жыл бұрын
Also IQ can see the defenders when they turn off their phones after Dokkaebi calls them.
@DustyDesertRat6 жыл бұрын
You can see vigil when hes invis with glaz
@ThatDude111156 жыл бұрын
Vigil is only invisible on cameras. Not in person
@doicaretho68516 жыл бұрын
Actually, this is a good idea. Although it's good in theory, there just isn't much help or many team benefits to his gadget. A semi counter to Glaz would help him a bit.
@afterpasthours75046 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it wouldn’t make sense or work, Glaz’s scope highlights and seeks heat hence it’s a thermal scope in its nature, Vigil’s jammer only disguises him from video footage and cameras, it wouldn’t exactly hide his body heat from a thermal scope. It’d be cool if there was an effect where you wouldn’t see a clear outline of his body and instead a faint blur of heat signifying it was him using his jammer. Which is also why Caviera can counter a lot of things with her silent step, though it’s questionable why her footsteps aren’t traceable in her Silent Step, because she realistically still needs to put each foot on the ground to walk.
@Zedkiller11015 жыл бұрын
You should update this for Operation Ember Rise.
@Shantiiyooow6 жыл бұрын
LORD TACHANKA COUNTERS EVERYTHING!
@thebigyes84826 жыл бұрын
At first, I was confused about the interaction between Doki and Echo, but it does make sense for gameplay. Echo’s gadget revolves around him using his ‘phone’ and it would be pretty shitty if Doki could interrupt him, especially if she was the one being disoriented.
@officialskinnydick61716 жыл бұрын
At 19:00 you messed up a lil bit
@aaronhillaker70366 жыл бұрын
Chris, everything you listed with Jaeger has some sort of explosion most likely. Except maybe Candelas. They seem electronic entirely.
@Youngscholar166 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Net Neutrallity :/
@emaadawazem69716 жыл бұрын
Ruin Studios don’t worry we won
@emaadawazem69716 жыл бұрын
Ruin Studios good time to go in ur happy dance👍👍
@Youngscholar166 жыл бұрын
Wait what do you mean we won??
@emaadawazem69716 жыл бұрын
Ruin Studios yes we won it was suppose to happen in dec 14 but we won
@wasneverhere16 жыл бұрын
Emaad Awazem Huh??
@kifferwarrior8506 жыл бұрын
You are honestly the most underrated KZbinr out there
@ahmadhajahmad20026 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I’ve never been this early before
@ReggieTheCaracal6 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed with jäger ADS is the fact that it likes to destroy breaching round that's been stuck in the window. So let's say you are the ash pushing from window, you want to use breaching charge and there is a chance that CREM will be destroyed by ADS. It may be just glitch.
@kaya48646 жыл бұрын
12:13 😂😂😂😂😂
@lxzy94656 жыл бұрын
Echo’s Yokai, Ela’s concussion mines and Lesion’s gu traps can all disable Finka’s ability while the attack team is juiced up and smoke also can negate her ability because they’ll die faster since they’re breathing faster while in the smoke
@param9786 жыл бұрын
Riottttttt
@bishdy49856 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really into that Thatcher/Phone interaction idea.
@lyricalnemonade86756 жыл бұрын
Early af
@tihanyidani38625 жыл бұрын
"Jager's ADS Systems" so Jager's Active Defesne System Systems?
@d-dog46066 жыл бұрын
Capitao and Jäger’s interaction is because that Jäger’s ADS only deal with explosives, which a frag, stun or smoke grenade is.
@jmrr69596 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, all of these operators must be super smart, because these gadgets can be actually pretty complicated
@TheLuckyday116 жыл бұрын
If you read some of their bios, it says that most of them are really smart. For example IQ: "At sixteen, she completed her first internship with a local tech company. She would continue her education at MIT and Caltech in the United States." and "A brilliant overachiever and fast learner, Weiss has been successful at nearly everything she tries." And her nickname kinda implies it as well. But the same goes for many other operators.
@jmrr69596 жыл бұрын
That's cool, although kinda weird that they either chose or got put into counter terrorism
@georgeobama31586 жыл бұрын
jMr ツ I too think sledge's gadget is very sophisticated and advanced XD
@thevulcanwizard28346 жыл бұрын
Echo learned how to counter the logic bomb, but didn’t think to tell his friends
@jamessaint-surin12046 жыл бұрын
Jackal technically counters vigil because he is not meant to be seen by drones so he can not get spotted. However jackal is able to spot vigil by tracking his footsteps.
@aerternaeaerumna51586 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the Echo and Doki Doki interaction be the same as Ela and Zofia?
@Clane12176 жыл бұрын
as long as capitao is a 3 speed and has an agoc there will always be a reason to use him
@ImmyYousafzai6 жыл бұрын
I wish I had this video a year ago. :) Meaning this is a great video about gadget specially because this great game is alot about how efficiently these gadgets are used. thanks Chris
@PhysicxG6 жыл бұрын
Zofia's concussions round stop echo from using his drone for a short time too, you forgot this one, anyway great video thank you for your work.
@mochithepooh53686 жыл бұрын
There is interaction with IQ and Dokkaebi. If you call the defender, their phone will appear in IQ's scanner. And if you can shoot through the floor/wall you can get a quick kill.
@Reshi99845 жыл бұрын
I died on Blackbeard. "Ubisoft balancing team" XD
@keystonelyte6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you considered this when making the video, Chris, but I think it's worth mentioning that Hibana, Fuze and Ying are effectively counters for the ADS, as they force multiple shots of the ADS to go off at once. This is essentially a 'disable' counter.
@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
+Vincent Cavanagh I mentioned that Hibana burns ADS' in the interaction portion, but didn't really mention it in the counters because it's kind of a grey area. Instead I tried to focus more on what would actually destroy gadgets as opposed to burn them.
@keystonelyte6 жыл бұрын
Fair enough lol
@saggy32006 жыл бұрын
14:50 I think the reason why is the real-life comparison and how the gadget is thematically supposed to work. It detects objects flying within a short radius and fires and destroys them, particularly meant to counter things like grenades. Low-speed projectiles like any hand-thrown object or even as slow firing as the X-KAIROS shots could be physically hit with the counter-system. That being said, I'm pretty sure the reason it doesn't not or cannot target Capitao's bolts is just that they travel too fast or are too small for the device to hit it. I could be wrong, though. I don't know what the realistic speeds of bolts are or the X-KAIROS so I can't say this is why for sure. Most likely an oversight though, if this isn't the reason why.
@MrTrapHouse6 жыл бұрын
Im not new to seige but I still love this series.
@siegeofdoom82265 жыл бұрын
I once ran into an obj room and just smashed all the traps and gadgets and all the defenders just looked confused at me
@Oscarstevens7606 жыл бұрын
+VarsityGaming You can argue that YING's candelas can counter JÄGER'S ADS's as you can use them as duds. 1 ADS can only destroy 2 grenades each,and you should 100% get them smoke grenades up in ranked. Therefore, let's say that on skyscraper in BBQ ROOM theres one ADS on sight in bomb, and only GLAZ YING AND BUCK are left on your team with 30 seconds on the clock, u shouldn't waste BUCK'S frags or GLAZ'S smokes, you would throw in your candelas, then your smokes and finally your frags, so that you are able to get the plant down. Therefore in that sense YING can counteract with JÄGER
@squidwardo70746 жыл бұрын
1000 hours in the game yet I still watched the whole thing.
@lordtachanka45796 жыл бұрын
This isn’t really about gadgets but it’s about IQs gadget... IQ can detect the defenders phone like when dokkaebi sets off her logic bomb or when the defenders check the cameras which reveal the locations of all defenders.
@morganpark62706 жыл бұрын
I think you *maybe* missed one important interaction. Jackal can reliably track anyone besides Cav, sure, but this track temporarily negates Vigil's gadget in an indirect way. Yes, he's still invisible on drones, but that ceases to matter during a Jackal track. It's not a complete negation, but one worth mentioning. Side note: I think you're getting too caught up in lore justifications versus what some of these exceptions mean for simply for gameplay. Echo being unaffected by Logic Bomb isn't some dumb easter egg, it's because Echo is the only defender that needs to be away from his body for large periods of time and Ubi clearly thinks the Logic Bomb would be too big of an interruption for him. Not that it matters, but I agree. And again with the Zofia withstand thing, I think you're thinking about it backwards. They didn't give her withstand BECAUSE she's canonically a badass, but it's an ability they wanted to give someone purely because it's neat. It's not realistic, sure, but neither are many things that exist in the game because they're awesome. As for the Capitao inconsistency with the ADS, I've always thought about it as if the bolts are so small that they aren't detected as explosives, but rather bullets, which obviously the ADS ignores. I don't think it'd break Cap in general to have an ADS counter him, but you're right that he's in such bad shape atm I'd be sad to see it happen.
@faintgaming71286 жыл бұрын
With the echo-dokkaebi lack of interaction I just feel that it's better as a balance thing as well; negating echo with his drone usage by using dokkaebi would make echo a little weak in a logic bomb, rush situation where echo could be used to stun enemies trying to push and protect his team from the enemy while they reset.
@VarsityGaming6 жыл бұрын
+Faintgaming that's a good point I hadn't considered. My issue is, right now he is a direct counter to her. But if she could call him she'd be a direct counter to him. Right now I don't like having people be direct counters to specific operators. Makes for very linear gameplay
@GXShattering4 жыл бұрын
You forgot that zofia’s concussion nades negate operators will to live.
@Slayer46406 жыл бұрын
that thatcher - dokkaebi interaction would be a troller's dream
@jemsuper6 жыл бұрын
One i find important that you missed is that when a blackbeard walks through a kapkan trap his shield gets instagibbed
@MentallyLatent5 жыл бұрын
I fun one is if your phone is ringing, you can go stand near a mute jammer and it'll stop it. I am new so this was very useful.
@Comand946 жыл бұрын
Dokkaebi's Logic Bomb technically counters Valkyrie, since you cannot view your cams when the phone is ringing. I flanked an unsuspecting Valkyrie once thanks to this, she was relying on the camera to watch her surroundings.
@nemomillot11426 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec. So if Vigil has a jammer on his back why does it not counter Jackal? And shouldnt he be able to counter the new operator as well, Lion? Also shouldnt Capitao's thermite crossbow bolt be able to destroy gadgets because the heat would melt the wiring thus rendering them useless?
@firstnamelastname93986 жыл бұрын
4:40 you forgot to mention the yokai also stops most animations, so it would counter deployment of breaching charges and the defuser on bomb
@bred89796 жыл бұрын
love the blackbeard counter
@louptony62096 жыл бұрын
There is an important interaction between IQ and Dokkaebi I think you forgot to mention : IQ can track phones when they are ringing.
@Cha0sLord936 жыл бұрын
If you are standing over one of Mute's jammer BEFORE Dokkaebi is calling you, your jammer will prevent the call. I've played many games as mute while standing over a jammer, my teammates get the call and I dont have to turn the device off and make myself vulnerable. Unfortunately it does not work to run to the jammer if Dokkaebi is successful in calling you, so its part luck that she happens to call you while you're near a jammer
@SuperCodbomb6 жыл бұрын
Technically, lesion counters montagne in the same way smoke does because if he does not drop his guard remove the GU needle, it will easily lead to his death as he will be downed after enduring the cycle of the needle
@n00bslyr6 жыл бұрын
the whole jager vs capitao might also have something to do with round speed, the xkairos pellets probably move a bit slower than most other grenades, i would call it an inconsistency that it can take ash charges because they would be moving faster than grenades edit; or it might be a matter of size, bolts are pretty small all things considered
@fubsthefish83206 жыл бұрын
Also, I believe Mute's wifi routers jam Blitz' flash.
@SonicDragon-tu9yh6 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to add that lesion is a counter to Montagne he has to put away his shield to take out the needles or he will get killed but that's still technical
@msfattytroll6 жыл бұрын
You forgot that mute jammers prevent you from being called by dokkaebi and disables blitz's flash
@Gaoshiki6 жыл бұрын
16:30 The grenades are explosives. They have an AoE and there is a high chance Ela and Zofia will be in this proximity in CQC - therefore they need to resist the effect. Echo's drone is EXTREMELY specific - it only hits one operator and you have to hit them. There is no AoE. The only person who can force an Echo drone hit on Echo is Echo.
@OneTrickToni6 жыл бұрын
I just want to mention that yokai has the same effect as the concussion mine in which they can cancel out an operator performing an action such as planting a bomb
@potroast7026 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t yokai stop attackers from planting the defused and breach charges? So that would counter thermite since he can’t place his charge when he gets hit
@eue41276 жыл бұрын
Bandits Batteries dont destroy echos drone because the drone is hovering and not touching the ground. If you are not connected to the ground you could stick you finger into a socket....