Gaijin Just Ruined Gunplay in Top Tier

[@luthfihar3211]

gaijin as a game studio is somehow way more buried in bureaucratic bullshit than some IRL government, like how tf is it so hard for the two department in charge with features and bugs to just communicate and coordinate together. it's frankly a circus in that office of theirs

[@fattyMcGee97]

Gaijin appears to suffer from inheriting the Soviet Union’S bureaucracy

[@guy_autordie]

"Sometimes you want to burn the shiup for the insurance money" I laughed HARD on that one.

[@_LeFish_]

Gaijin when something is fun : 👁👄👁

[@MinecraftKarol2005]

They'll add the green circle in the next su27 variant. it will also be a 70$ premium

[@cookiecraze1310]

​@@MinecraftKarol2005 nah it'll just be a Mig 29 with modernized engines and 2 R77's at 13.0. For £75.

[@BONGUS1-g7t]

nah mig23-98 and $80

[@Domitonk]

and will the war thunder players buy it? Yeah

[@DorkwingYT]

No fun allowed 🤬🙏🐌

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

I sympathize with the Gaijin-eroo that fixes go through with staff and community managers playing hot potato with it for years. I uploaded 1970s ballistic test result documents to show that a round defeated more armor at 1km, with detailed live fire results, than it does in-game. The community manager person handling the bug reports page said the math was wrong for the frustum of the projectile and rejected it. So to want to repeat this into the void - I showed a US government live fire test of the round in the 1970s where it consistently defeated more armor successfully (not even the upper bound, just a confirmed penetration) than it does in-game and they asserted that their math is correct. "The Picatinny Arsenal is wrong." -Gaijin

[@ak-1271]

Lmao. Classic Gaijin move.

[@just_zone]

Picatinny arsenals best scientists (SMALL BRAIN) VS gaijins worst balance staff employee (GALAXY BRAIN)

[@stuffffuts3480]

At this point you really gotta wonder what kind of sekrit documents they have access to such that they can "find fault" with the 1970 US government live fire test.

[@impguardwarhamer]

To be fair to gaijin there is often the opposite problem, where historical documents are actually wrong and it leads to constant bug reports from mislead users on the forum. I can't remember the exact numbers but this happened with the Cromwell's front armour. I've dug up design documents from the Bovington archives that quote one number and it's repeated in multiple respectable secondary sources, but go and actually measure one in real life and you'll find its like an inch or something thinner.

[@wolf2403]

*insert leaked military documents meme here*

[@faei1897]

ON THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF AOEILAEIEPAE'S BIZZARE ADVENTURE-

[@Anakinch0]

"Gaijin took a look at a fun system everyone loved, that was conflicting with a not fun system everyone hated and they took out the fun system." No you know how ARB players feel.

[@luthfihar3211]

this so called "fix" is basically the software equivalent of a doctor chopping of your wrist because you had carpal tunnel

[@finglipa2001]

Except they cut the wrong hand

[@MegaJani]

This is literally just the Monkey's Paw

[@MIIRBH]

Snail's paw

[@charlieyes4946]

It’s not even, you literally just lose

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

Instead of a keybind to turn BLIS on and off, an simple switch in the options menu so you can choose between the green circle and the floating sight

[@luthfihar3211]

hell, why not even just bake it in for every plane that has radar guided lead indicator (ie the green circle) the arcade gray lead indicator just get automatically disabled. both are the same feature just running on different mechanics similar to how bomb ballistic computer indicator is just the arcade bomb indicator

[@ian4175]

As a software engineer, I’m going to say that gun sight is some PM’s baby and they’re defending it tooth and nail so they can justify that they’re providing value.

[@endeyfire]

my aj37 has 680 chaff and 48 flares now. thank your archipelago man for pissing off the snail with completely normal questions.

[@kajmak64bit76]

What did it have before?

[@endeyfire]

@@kajmak64bit76 48 flares or chaff. ud balance out what u needed. thats with both pods.

[@kajmak64bit76]

@@endeyfire so now it got buffed with infinite chaff and some 48 flares Nice

[@endeyfire]

@@kajmak64bit76 TTAA means i needs to hard spam chaff for 5 mins straight to reload my flares though.

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

btw the weird glitch was also in rb

[@ronanmcdonald6386]

Surely what they could do is have the crosshair stay where the guns were pointing and have a secondary crosshair follow BLIS?

[@Aoeilaeiepae]

That'd work too.

[@Lexus-fo3ey]

Surely they could fix BLIS in the first place so u'd hit anything and not be hindered by it.

[@Brisingr26]

This is basically like having a toothache and the doctor saying “Okay I can fix that” then chopping off your head.

[@itsjustmenova]

So instead of fixing the buggy feature that was conflicting with something else they just grabbed an axe and got rid of whatever wasn’t letting their new bit of broken code fit… sounds about right

[@VANDENBURGER_]

Gaijin treats top tier air arcade like the neglected that asks for food and gets cigarettes

[@shukes4645]

if you want to feel abandoned try ground assault or naval

[@VANDENBURGER_]

@@shukes4645 oh god I forgot about that

[@toast1172]

I mean, so few ppl play top tier arcade that its really isnt something that they are going to focus on.

[@hellogoodbye388]

Same with sim

[@Polterbun]

@@hellogoodbye388 RIP Sim, used to be my favorite.

[@bobthenog]

The bug “fix” of all time

[@ThePlagueHealer]

Ill add they broke the gunsight itself on the Sea harrier Squadron vehicle. The Retical is stuck right under the aircraft so you cant even aim

[@sillyfellamcrlovr]

this occasionally happens to me on the tech tree FRS.1 too

[@seaturtleisland495]

I’m going to love watching people in TTAR going Mach 1.3 trying to lead their rounds in close quarters combat.

[@FirstDagger]

With Gaijin it always it is: "Be careful what you wish for" If they can find a to fix it "easier" they will.

[@starexcelsior]

Soooo I only play Realistic and I still absolutely hate the ballistic lead indicator. Glad to see I'm not alone in hating this thing. All they had to do to make it not the worst thing ever was have the lead indicator be a separate thing from your normal reticle.

[@winniethepooh795]

All 3 of the top tier air arcade players are fuming rn.

[@Frosty_43]

The start was giving me “white girl on the phone gossiping about Stacy” vibes

[@100sircampsalot6]

In my experience, the default gray indicator is much more reliable and less jumpy than the radar one. Its inaccuracies come from range rather than speed, with longer shots requiring you to lead the indicator itself. Once you get used to this tho it’s really not that bad and in my opinion more functional. I’ve found the radar indicator to be useful mostly for long-range snipes only, because relying on it in headons puts your plane at risk at jet speeds, and the standard aim indicator works reliably for normal deflection shots one you have enough practice with using it. At least that’s what i’ve found for me. Also it helps to not rely on it when flying a plane without a radar gunsight.

[@derptomistic]

"Can you fix this?" Loads shotgun

[@wyattr7982]

babe wake up new vowel man dropped

[@0GTXR]

Recently, Gaijin fucked with planes that have offset guns (B-26B, Br.693AB2, etc) by moving the instructor control reticle from the plane's nose to where the guns point. It creates so many issues with aiming, but nobody will care FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU They could have added it to the Schrage Musik activation control and change it's name to "Toggle gun camera"

[@TheWhoamaters]

"Hey gaijin fix this part of your game" Howabout you just play a different gamemode? What the fuck gaijin

[@DotIsReckless]

Can I let you take my first born and train him for warthunder

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

sometimes the missile do go through the mountain

[@myronplatte8354]

Me chilling in low-tier realistic with my Yak-1B and looking at the insanity that is high-tier war thunder: NO THANKS

[@trashitty9854]

I haven't played arcade in a while, but the idea of them taking away the green circle is fucking insane

[@OptiPopulus]

The peasants complained and the king punished them.

[@Jigglypoundage]

As a top tier 104 fan. Please I beg you. Release that video. You’ve got me on the edge of my seat

[@Aoeilaeiepae]

TL;Dr: you outclimb everyone at a BR where radar missile can't really snipe you that hard.

[@Jigglypoundage]

@@Aoeilaeiepae That’s a strategy I never thought of, mainly because I didn’t know the 11.3 104 could do that against things like aim 54s and the like. I can not wait for this video keep up the good work!

[@Aoeilaeiepae]

@@Jigglypoundage Oh the F-104S.ASA in the italian tech tree? Yeah, that's a whole other can of worms.

[@Jigglypoundage]

Hey. Maybe another video idea for you? If anyone can find a way to make it work I’d believe it to be you

[@pedroemmafra6376]

10:00 "mission failed" *reward for winning*

[@BxrfIip]

If I use gaijin logic, then the best way to enjoy this game is to stop playing it... actually, that checks out

[@kennyxkazuki713]

I might be having major false memorie, but I definitely remember being able to turn off the floating gun sight

[@kingghidorah8106]

The fact that the f-5C and E went to 11.0 despite they're basically the zero and n1k2 of supersonic jets is insane. You have the j7E which is faster, has four of the best rear aspect missiles and despite having only 60 rounds, the gun one-shots while you're already granted 3 free kills at least thanks to the missiles while f-5's have good guns but no speed to pressure on the enemies. F-5's have thrived solely because people are actively presenting themselves as a free frag, because they believe that their mach 1.3 on the deck plane should just 180 onto the first enemy they see. Since 2022 the f-5's major advantage which is good horizontal maneuvering speed retention at speeds where nobody flies at has already started to fade away. This update was the opacity value that completely faded them out.

[@KHAOS_CT]

" we ain't gonna fix it till we see it impact our integrity" is one way to look at the forum situation especially since they seem to have the time to make broken vehicle packs and premiums that don't even match up. Or we can look at it as, we have to get a man that hasn't optimized his username for KZbin clicks, to force them into begging them to fix their game. Love it!

[@Clearwater_WT]

SO THAT WAS WHY! I was flying my Sabre Fs and i couldn't for the life of me get my green reticle to appear. I even asked in in-game chat, but not surprisingly no one said anything. However as soon as I looked at the thumbnail I knew this was it. Gaijin, competent as always.

[@memelordgourd5094]

VOWEL MAAAAAAAAAN! YOURE GOING ON ANOTHER KILL LIST FOR THIS ONE!!!!!11!!!

[@theproman1361]

so THATS where my green circle went

[@guy-]

Me, who's finally gotten my first rank 3: whoah, this is so relatable!

[@nick4754]

What do you think of the upcoming br changes for arcade (why are they moving the F4c to 10.7)

[@ZigaZagu]

Phantom drip op

[@Sten05]

The f-5c is 11.0 I'm realistic its funny how bad gajin failed something so simple

[@nick4754]

@@Sten05 na the f5c is 10.3 in arcade (not sure if it kept its knotching) so they did that right for ab at least

[@mikewazowski7024]

Holy shit this was the worst thing that could’ve possibly happened. I am genuinely amazed that this was their course of action. It defies common sense.

[@smuds5533]

So I started playing this game 2 months ago and over the past week I realized how shitty my aim had become and I couldn’t put my finger on it. This totally explains it though.

[@Allstar-yl1ek]

Every time you make one of these, my Gaijin password mysteriously stops being correct and it takes about four hours for my password reset to go through. I'm not sure if that means the servers are buckling under the weight of just a few hundred dedicated fans or Gaijin are specifically sabotaging you but it's pretty funny

[@Scorchluck]

I've been playing WT almost since the start of the OBT, and it was exactly after you outlined the problem that I hypothesized: "Oh, Snail will probably remove the most convenient option". Radar sights almost don't work in the sim, absolutely don't work in RB, and now don't work in the arcade. As they say in our army, "Everything must be uniform and ugly". (in my native language this saying rhymes).

[@irishspitfire]

You mean to tell me you asked Gaijin to fix something, and DIDN'T expect the Monkey Paw to curl?

[@firnen_]

Can you please ask your contact to do something about the new BOL pod situation on the Tornado and Viggen? Because god does it suck if you're not playing RB. Good luck going through 680 chaff just to reload your flares...

[@platiuscyndar9017]

To be fair - if you are used to using a lag pip instead of a lead pip, the BLIS is actually pretty decent. The primary reticule disappearing is kinda cringe but the actual pip itself is pretty useable, and lag pips do have strong advantages over lead pips - by showing you where the gun is going to be when it intersects with the target, instead of showing you where to shoot, it allows you to keep your eyes on the target instead of needing to look away to get the proper lead. I, personally, am a big fan of lag pips for this reason. The problem then is that the game has functioned with lead pips instead of lag pips for years, and with the "normal" arcade lead indicator still does, meaning that unless you use lag pips elsewhere - as in, in other games - the game teaches you to be used to lead pips and then randomly throws a lag pip at you.

[@retropranghorn]

We did it 🎉 they marked it as acknowledged and closed comments…(it’s never gonna be fixed)

[@0li945]

I haven’t played top tier in a while and i am shocked that the green halo is gone 😢

[@CrusaderLegFoot]

The problem is that Gaijin doesn’t know what “fun” is, which is why they have a guy locked in their basement to make memes for them.

[@remkirkthegamer1157]

Now that I've bought the A2D-1 Skyshark, I'm really feeling the bite of this change. Now what am I going to use the radar for?!

[@Scg1_hunter8416]

I have had the lead indicator just stuck on the ground when i respawn. I would die as an F-4J with my radar still on and hop into the f105 and boom, the lead indicator is on the ground somewhere with no way of getting it back unless I die.

[@remkirkthegamer1157]

I had that problem in a customs battle with some friends. Died in my F-4S, so I switched to the F8F-1 to dogfight with the only person on the enemy team with a prop (The jets generally avoid the props, as F-4s don't have much problem killing F4Fs) and suddenly, my reticle is not where it's supposed to be. It was stuck on the ground and I just had to guess where my guns were pointed. Great mechanic, Gaijin.

[@dr.argentina]

and once again, Gaijin back-stabbing his son when he asked for a singular uncooked grain of rice

[@peoplesarmyttv2371]

Gaijin didn't just ruined gunplay in top tier, They ruined everything

[@rentaspoon219]

I swear at this point Gajin just purchased a lifetime supply of monkey's paw just to fix bugs

[@Damian-03x3]

Oh, so that's the garbage that screwed me over a few times recently. I assuemd I screwed up some binds and accidentally turned gun ballistic indicator on or something.

[@sniffer123-z1o]

0:29 i didnt even need to start to watch the video for that

[@Ep1cSh0tz1]

It didn't make more sense, it was an EASY fix, rather than implementing anything new at all. This is how bad devs think. Coming from a real software developer.

[@datguy5699]

isnt the green circle a missile lead indacator

[@itsPerSo]

Why is nobody talking about the lag spikes that sometimes happen in Air AB after u kill a player? I got slammed into the ground multiple times.

[@isleepal0n3]

As a top tier air arcade controller player, I love being able to actually use my gun

[@epic-gamer882]

I think that the targeting reticle in arcade appears at 0.77 kms

[@Petrzov]

I went to Eastern Europe for two months, came back, played a game of War Thunder and was like, “Where’s my shit?!”

[@alguem24]

Ah, so this is why that circle went away. Damn; I though I had somehow severely fucked my radar settings

[@strf90105]

At this point, I'm not sure if I'm still playing the game as charity towards Gaijin, or if I'm a prisoner who's chained to a sinking garbage patch in the ocean.

[@aporhtonoma2301]

IT WAS YOU YOU DID IT THE VOWEL GUY FORSAKE US ALL :(

[@williewalrus]

Sounds about right for gaijin… many such cases…

[@mitsamonewsreports]

we need to get this man into a seat of power asap

[@AveDominusNoctis]

So what you're saying is, is that it's technically your fault that it's gone now, innit? Gaijin: "That'll teach you to complain, peasant."

[@Insulino36]

The annoying reticule is not only hated by arcade players, realistic players don't like it either, the only guys who have use for it are sim players (like me), and they don't use a reticule, they use the HUD on the aircrafts cockpit

[@reggintoggaf7140]

I forgot about that gay shit when I started playing sim 🎉

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Dude, if we can’t get ground radar gun sights to get fixed and the normal aim indicator to get fixed, then there is not way in hell they fix this.

[@siphon2150]

Can't you just turn off the cannon ballistic computer and it will stop the crosshair from changing position?

[@reggintoggaf7140]

lol no 🎉

[@remkirkthegamer1157]

Nope, BLIS and the ballistic computer are two separate mechanics.

[@AxlePlaysGames]

This is why I went to DCS instead of War Thunder, I can spend £6 (in a sale) on an F-15C and get instant access to AMRAAMs and fun things in a much better modelled environment where I can make my own missions, instead of paying a year of my life or £65+ and three months of my life only to get a plane that I then have to spend a week researching competitive missiles which people know how to dodge anyway so are totally ineffective. When you spell it out I wonder why I still play War Thunder sometimes, I mean the aircraft gameplay is older than the tank gameplay, and the tank gameplay is at this point my only reason for playing War Thunder at all. It's really sad how my once favourite game has just been destroyed by incompetent devs, and this video is a PRIME example, cutting corners to make money and not caring what the playerbase wants.

[@Netanya-q4b]

YOOO What we need is vertical targeting in arcade so the aiming between AB and RB is the same.

[@rixuuu]

I hate this thing in the realistic, why there is no off button?

[@franzoloranzo7302]

Bruh Gaijin out here giving Arrowhead a run for their money with their bug “fixes”

[@theechelon9263]

Please Gaijin. Fix the kv1 and kv2 fueltanks. Diesel does not explode when light shrapnel hits the tank. In fact the reason why the tanks are there is HISTORICALLY for more armor as diesel is more dense and Doesn't Explode on the lightest hit.

[@poggersquirrel583]

You’re like the Rosa Parks of TTAA

[@badpfgamer1811]

i love the absolute excitment of your voice in the intro Also, your cursor keeps twitching in the video is it by the sensitivity, fucked up mouse, or something?

[@cybershinobi4136]

why did I reinstall this game

[@widmo206]

Congrats, you made me hate a company for breaking stuff in a game I've never even played

[@pheonix993]

I was wondering where it went

[@alpalmaster8705]

Gotta say... I REALLY like the radar gunsight (in sim) it has saved my ass so manny times

[@IAmBadAtWarThunder321]

me at beginning of video "why is he so manueverable? is this normal for chinese top tiers?" me at 1:50: "oh it's AB. respectable"

[@timewaster504]

Wait, is this where the gun thingamajig moves off center and acts as a prediction thing that never works?

[@oilram8222]

gaijin moment confirmed

[@juuuxie2631]

It's also gone from ground vehicles. It's like ruined the M163 for US and has made It's radar basically useless :/

[@limer.6355]

wellcome in being gaijind

[@Justakirbb]

I like top tier air arcade because its what you can use boosters and useless backups for stock grinding.

[@thomasgray4188]

getting told to play a different game mode? air sim players: first time?

[@potatocat9448]

Player base: can u fix this gaijin: nah imma just remove the feature that yall do like instead cuz i cant add a feature that makes the game better

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

it would be easier to be upset about this if it didn't negatively affect the most under tiered jet in the game

[@SotGravarg]

Air realistic top tier isn't really anything else than arcade top tier with the only difference that you can't tk your teammates on take off.

[@PvtPartzz]

I don’t play arcade but I do play sim battles and can commiserate with how awful the radar gunsights are. They’re basically useless for most fights unless the enemy has completely stopped maneuvering in which case, you never needed a radar gunsight to hit. It’s especially bad on the F16C and ever F4 but it’s pretty shit for most aircraft. They almost exclusively underlead targets and are so delayed to the targets changes in direction that it’s often more of a hinderance than helpful. Then factor in how often you drop the lock and then randomly pick up a completely different target and you learn to just not use it at all.

[@Greddash]

Gaijn developed an off button, it just wasn't for the feature you wanted.

[@BanjoJo]

You can turn off the balistic indicator, am I missing something?