Gal Gadot, Rachel Zegler & The Cursed Snow White Remake

[@lakegroce685]

Some Disney executives read a BuzzFeed article from 2016 full of bad faith arguments about how Disney princess are the antithesis of feminism, got mad,and now we’re all suffering for it.

[@iain9757]

Have you seen Lindsey Ellis reviews of the Disney live action remakes? So brilliant

[@ogome2927]

even in 2024 and with buzz feed pretty much shut down in some places and already dead the legacy of that platform still lives on lol

[@hinasakukimi]

@@iain9757 it's frustrating how this shit fuels anti feminist youtubers and then you have actual (non-corporate) feminists screaming "WE HATE THIS" 😭😭

[@fusetunes]

THIS!! these movies will never be anything because they want to be everything. they’re response videos to non-issues but also uninventive retreads for nostalgic adults who want to relive their childhood with or without kids. they’re too ‘woke’ for conservatives and too safe, surface-level corporate liberal to leftists

[@rainebows]

fr it all feels like 2012 buzzfeed feminism

[@ColeClawson]

3:02 It’s weird that Rachel Zegler got hate for THAT take when isn’t that pretty much the plot of Snow White and the Huntsman? Like independent Snow White becomes leader…

[@AlexMartinez-to6kt]

Anti wokeness wasnt that profitable then.

[@ColeClawson]

@ truuuueeee

[@ericgarcia4745]

Snow White and the Huntsman is a retelling of the Brothers Grimm story, not a remake of the Disney version. This Disney Snow White is supposed to be a remake and not a reboot of their classic version. That may be why. 🤔

[@ColeClawson]

@ oooh didn’t realize that😅 I guess the “Disney” tag comes with a STEEP price

[@zamulakincaid]

@@ColeClawson As a longtime Snow White fan, I can tell you this... NOBODY cares about Snow White lmao. She's the least popular princess, nobody talks about her movie, etc. So the fact that all these people are suddenly up in arms over this movie is very disingenuous.

[@jenniferlynnkarr]

honestly the most offensive part of this remake is her HAIR

[@emilyk5168]

I think they are trying to make it look like the cartoon but it's just bad. I feel bad for her.

[@galaxyqueen3064]

I know, they did her so dirty with the design, not just her hair, but the dress and makeup as well . The fanmade Snow White images of her are so much better. I honestly feel really bad for her. They set her up for failure.

[@alim.9801]

Where's her wig stylist, I just wanna talk 😭

[@Rogerfromarea51]

And that dollar store dress!

[@YaraShammas]

Or that they cast a z1on1st...

[@Andre_APM]

Lindsay Ellis has a great video about how hollow these "progressive" ideas are in these Disney live-action remakes are. About how they're surface level and don't meaningfully change or affect the story. An example is Belle being an inventor in Beauty and the Beast and how absolutely nothing comes from this in the story. As for Snow White being a revolutionary who knows what this will do and if it will be any different than the Charlize Theron movie.

[@WoodwindBuddies]

I was gonna say this! Also the fact that they refuse to address the super racist crows and any past racism is also telling.

[@KiKat373]

Lindsay Ellis quitting KZbin was so sad, her videos were spot on

[@ValyrianPrince]

She really didn’t

[@iain9757]

@@ValyrianPrincewho didnt ?

[@AJ-xc4qe]

@@KiKat373 the funny thing is, I hate her because she supports Amber heard, but hating on her because she didn’t like a movie and twisting her words to make it sound like she’s racist? That’s just fucking dumb.

[@frediemelperenaxiii235]

Slight tangent here but it surprises me that Rachel Zegler gets so much vitriol, when Gal Gadot is part of this project.

[@SunnyGoesIn1D]

exactly

[@BrandyyBrandyy]

There is no movie she has played in that shows she could play a good evil queen. Crazy

[@violetlavi2207]

especially since Gal Gadot has criticized the original movie too!

[@alyssapinon9670]

I think the feminism Gal Gadot promotes is more surface level and non threatening to men. Rachel Zegler on the other hand shows how some men really feel about women speaking their mind

[@VellanShadow]

What's wrong with Gal Gadot?

[@Creek932]

Let's be honest here, all of these Disney live-action remakes are lazy, soulless hot garbage that demonstrates the lack of originality in Hollywood. I have nothing against Rachel Zegler, but regardless of the casting, this movie was never going to be good.

[@zamulakincaid]

It's a shame because on paper these live action remakes are a great idea. It's just Disney doesn't want to take any chances and add anything meaningful to the stories.

[@ogome2927]

tbh the only thing i have against her was her being free palestine after willingly working with an israeli actress for this movie and being all happy and smiley with her during the interviews ngl but that did lowkey annoy me using the plight of palestinians and their genocide as a shield to defend herself which i just thought was wrong and insulting to palestinians, but other then that i do think most of the backlash towards her hasn’t made any sense at all and just scream racism tbh but yh i agree a lot of these remakes are just soulless cash grabs and boring af ngl

[@zamulakincaid]

@@ogome2927 It's entirely possible she signed the contract before Gal Gadot though. I don't think you can hold that against her. But there are rumors that there is some animosity between the two.

[@ogome2927]

@@zamulakincaid still tho once gal gadot was signed on board i would gladly walk away from that project idk it just doesn’t sit with me right that someone who is free palestine is starring in a movie with a company that openly backs israel and staring alongside a big time zionist all imma say is if you’re true to your morals you should stick by them and i honestly would give her massive praise if she was like fuck disney and walked out on them as a boycott and for palestine rather than doing pointless free palestine tweets on twitter which looks rather performative and as someone who is big on the free palestine train its a damaging look for me

[@liste302]

being free palestine does not mean you have to condemn any israeli person on this planet though? this kind of logic is so dangerous imo. Gal gadot is israeli but she is not responsible for what the israeli government is doing. Just like you wouldn't avoid every russian person in your neighborhood because of putin's war. and if you do so that's just blatant racism...

[@Mar-pe9kx]

My optimist ass is hoping Disney will now never make a remake ever again due to this controversy. Oh how great the world would be again.

[@breannaperkins88]

Unfortunately, the live-action remakes of Moana and Lilo and Stitch are right around the corner.

[@iain9757]

But there’s no controversy to Disney.

[@thema1998]

Nope! It was just announced that Disney is remaking "Tangled", the movie that kicked off the 2010s Disney Revival era, in live-action because of course they are. 😅

[@breannaperkins88]

@thema1998 I just heard that new😒

[@violetlavi2207]

@@breannaperkins88 there's always the possibility of them dying in development...that would be nice. The originals never needed live-action updates

[@AnonPanOn]

In Zegler's defense I'm pretty sure every small child was terrified of Snow White. That chase through the forest scene was batshit crazy.

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@AnonPanOn early Disney was freaky. I guess the animators REALLY wanted to show off the power of animation (aka traumatize children). That or they were on high amounts of something. Or both.

[@belenbarria568]

When the rock falls on the Evil Queen? the face she makes right before that terrified me

[@DrawciaGleam02]

I honestly don't think people are really that mad at Zegler's mentioning that aspect of the story.......

[@emmeoliver5007]

4:31 I’ve said this a million times but nobody brings up the fact that when Jacob Elordi was interviewed to play Elvis in Priscilla he talked about how his introduction to Elvis was through Lilo and Stitch and everyone thought that was so hilarious and his performance was not doubted but an outspoken young woman talks about how an older Disney film was scary (they are scary btw) and the internet slams her. I just don’t get the Rachel Zegler hate and think how people react to and dramatize her comments are just potent examples of the double standard so many people hold against women in Hollywood.

[@iain9757]

I also like how nowhere in the marketing does it say that Greta Gerwig is a script writer - especially after Barbie … why aren’t you using your golden ticket Disney?

[@ogome2927]

even if they did advertise greta i think even she wouldn’t change the outcome of success with this movie it does rlly seem like a cursed movie i’m ngl lol

[@ChienaAvtzon]

Because Greta Gerwig was only brought on to be a script doctor.

[@EvanSol919]

The script probably went through a lot of rewrites.

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@ChienaAvtzon, Doctor? Yeah…. Like that’s gonna cure the movie.😂😂😂

[@emcvideoproductions500]

I think a good way to sum up Disney’s bizarre efforts to please everyone with this film is a problem they’ve had for a while now: they try pleasing everyone without pleasing anybody. Either cast real life little people to play the dwarves or don’t bother making the movie at all.

[@julieblair7472]

Exactly. Making them a group of real people with a story about being othered or outcasts with humanity would be appropriate. All it takes is removing the bibs and red-nosed cave bumbling. I also think their CGI solution is still depicting the stereotype, and is even worse. An absolute fail.

[@vincentslashmarshall]

they attempted and it was widely panned

[@8114梦见]

@@julieblair7472This was done with moderate success in Mirror, Mirror. Snow white’s companions in the film are outcasts from society due to bigotry, rather than some fantastical element. And before being outcast, they all had a trade and lived pretty normal lives in the village. Disney was simply too lazy to imagine another way.

[@cityboy2092]

This movie would've made an easy $1 billion if it came out in 2016

[@ChienaAvtzon]

It would have flopped then too.

[@Erasureeraser]

If it came out in the same time as the Cinderella remake, it would've been a hit. Atleast before 2019, Disney was still trying to make these remakes worked instead of just throw a bunch of random things

[@iain9757]

@@ChienaAvtzonwhy lie ?

[@eiephants]

Wasn't there like 2-3 snow whites that came out in the 2010s?

[@emilyk5168]

I agree with Peter Dinklage that this never should have been remade but I feel badly for Rachel Zegler. She is taking the brunt of the hate online it seems and it's not like she has any creative control. She's just a young person who says too much on social media because she doesn't know better. There is a reason A-list stars don't have twitter.

[@zamulakincaid]

I understand what Peter Dinklage is saying, but it's not like Hollywood is creating any new roles for actors who are little people (except for Dinklage himself). So until Hollywood starts casting more little people in prominent and nuanced roles, I feel like these fantasy roles should continue doing what they're doing and paying little people actors.

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@emilyk5168 people be acting like she greenlit, wrote, edited, produced, and directed the film. Sure let’s have the greenhorn actress take over the production! That’s how the world works, right? I doubt even the biggest nepobabies in Hollywood would have that much power.

[@stxrstrxckmxteo515]

If I were her I would’ve quit this project a long time ago, contracts be damned, she should’ve done a Zendaya in 2014 for the Aaliyah biopic

[@xXx___xXx]

exactly! People are blaming everything wrong with the movie on her. She's just a young actress who got a big role.

[@Moonlight_Shad0w]

​@@zamulakincaid THATS EXACTLY HIS POINT

[@Gwen1661]

The fact that the actress getting unnecessary hate is Rachel while Gal Gadot is RIGHT THERE says everything

[@alyssapinon9670]

They’re acting like Rachel is the one committing war crimes fr

[@arianna5270]

Right like I was going to watch the terrible movie in protest of all the racist attacks but watching Gal “effing genocide” Gadot movie in theaters is against my values.

[@alyssapinon9670]

@@arianna5270 yeah, we can just let all the Rachel haters simp for the Genocide Queen

[@rachelklein6999]

@@alyssapinon9670 Gal Gadot is committing "war crimes?" For being Jewish and Israeli, your antisemitism is showing.

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

​@arianna5270 Seems like you have a bit of a issue with certain groups of people too. You ain't slick or sly with that. You absolute radical.

[@BoctorPink]

I feel you could make a whole video about how the youtube manosphere performance hate economy have gone from making their entire personality "hating on Brie Larson" to now "hating on Rachel Zegler".

[@cinnamonroll96]

OMG YES! those dudes think they can justify their thinly veiled misogyny. Ppl talk about how cringe it is to be “strong badass woman tm” but if saying you don’t need a man or being saved by a prince is yielding such vitriol, then obviously they already have such a problem with such Surface and base level sentences. Which means those sentences are not even half as unnecessary or self explanatory as a lot of ppl think

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

That sphere on youtube are clowns, but to be fair. Look at the dumb stuff both these 2 actors have said in the past. Obviously people will get pissed at them. Rachel Zegler and her words right here for example at 9:54. Whole personality is a bit much to say too.

[@callmecracky650]

It's not even just them! They do this with countless other women with franchises they don't even care about. I love Snow White and Captain Marvel, but also don't like this adaptation. However, I feel like valid criticism most people have gets overshadowed by red-pillers or just brushed off as regurgitating red pill nonsense when that's not what we're doing

[@krustomer]

Please!!!

[@jamiegdubois]

After seeing the clip of that interview with Rachel and Gal at 2:54, it’s weird that Rachel was the only one who got any hate. Yes, Rachel did start the comment with the whole “It’s not 1937” quip, but Gal was the person who made the comment about “she’s not going to be saved by the prince” and seemed to be the one to kinda prompt the rest of Rachel’s answer (which I think is understandable, given she’s a younger actress and potentially looks to guidance to a more experienced co-star like Gadot in interviews). I’m not a massive Zegler fan or anything and honestly don’t know much about her, but I just feel like she gets a lot of hate.

[@OopsIDidItAgainUh]

Same! I remember even Gal has said similar things as to Rachel when she was interviewed alone about the Snow White movie, and it seems like no one is angry at her for that. I think the people who were mad at Rachel's casting who weren't really brave to speak out against it were waiting for more reasons to hate her, and this interview clip came as their perfect opportunity.

[@JDotWill]

2:28 that’s always been my biggest issue with Disney doing this. They’re making the actors the face of the films or tv shows & those actors take the full force of vitriolic backlash online & Disney does fuck all to shield or defend them. It’s like Mike from RLM says, Disney is “showgressive”. They want to have their cake & eat it too

[@mangosightless]

What you said about the little person debacle is exactly how I felt about it. No one can tell me that everyone at Disney simply misinterpreted what Dinklage said and made the move to something more “palatable.” It feels as if they heard his critique, figured, “well if we chuck real little people from production that’s fewer ADA regulations we’ll have to comply with”, and ran with it. How could you get a job as a creative executive who makes decisions that change the course of an entire movie’s production and NOT be able to understand what Peter Dinklage actually meant? If they really cared then perhaps there’d be more exploration into the lives of the dwarves, what dwarves live outside the seven we know? How do they communicate and interact with the world beyond their forest and their mines? What could be done to make them more than just the supporting cast of Snow White? It’s so frustrating because the people behind these productions are being paid the money to come up with these ideas, but they can’t because it MIGHT affect the fucking bottom line.

[@alyssapinon9670]

The worst part is Peter Dinklage is getting the blame for Disney’s eff up and now people are using it as an excuse to hate “wokeness”

[@steve.santiago]

Your point on Rachel being Latina and there being nothing wrong with her playing Snow White is on point. I am Latino and we are not a monolith. We come in all shades, including very fair skinned. Not to mention Rachel is not exactly a dark skinned Latina.

[@ogome2927]

this is the thing tho the weird thing is with all these disney live action remakes ppl wanna crap on them for any reason which is fair enough bc i don’t even want these live action remakes but i hate it when they use the excuse of the actresses skin colour bc that is just stupid and less of the main reason of the pointless ness of remakes just ppl wanting to expose their racist behavior as well

[@WoodwindBuddies]

⁠​⁠@@ogome2927just like with Halle Bailey! Hell people got mad that Rue from The Hunger Games was black when she is literally described to have “dark skin” in the text.

[@alyssapinon9670]

@@ogome2927as someone who’s more indigenous passing than Rachel, I can only imagine the vitriol and Afro Latina or indigenous Latina would get if they’re all up in arms about a half white, relatively passing Latina being Snow White.

[@SMAnthonyW]

@@ogome2927 right. Like if you hate the movie because it’s bad, that’s fine, but what does the actress’s skin colour have to do with anything? People are just looking for an excuse to be racist

[@MajorOctofuss]

I just don’t care enough about these corporate cash grab remakes in the first place, so I couldn’t get emotionally charged enough to care. Disney thinks any attention is good attention so why play along with their games? Just watch the original and dont give the greedy mouse any money

[@TheSpongebobgo]

The absolute furor that Facebook Boomers wield against Rachel Zegler needs its own video

[@ogome2927]

again only thing i have against her is how she used palestine after working with gal gadot a notorious zionist it did annoy me a lot but other then that a lot of the criticisms towards her is lame af and does also scream as being racist too i’m ngl also

[@gabrxlam]

Lol it's not just boomers

[@jennyrodriguez811]

​@@ogome2927 She's not in charge of who her costars end up being.

[@alim.9801]

​@@ogome2927 Gal Gadot being a zionist sucks, but Zegler isn't in charge of casting. What would you rather do, her turn down the job because of a sucky costar? What would that accomplish? They'd just recast her. Wouldn't it help if she continues to raise her profile while advocating for Palestine?

[@ogome2927]

@@alim.9801 well no bc ultimately it’s pointless anyways bc if ppl go and see that movie they’re going to be funding israel and that money will only go about to support the israel cause and the israel’s genocide of palestinians obv they would’ve just recasted her ofc they would but if she had dropped out bc of this then yk what i would be like fair play to her what she’s doing is ultimately pointless bc she can be free palestine all she wants but in reality it’s no different then those performative activists who just be like free palestine on social media but don’t do anything else about it and she had a chance to make a severe impact she should’ve taken a lot more of a stronger stance on this imho as well bc morals over money imho o

[@kalechips9966]

00:21 As a former AMC employee, yes

[@joohoneybeee]

seconding this also as a former AMC employee lol we had ppl coming in for the next showing of BatB while the main credits were still rolling for the last showing; we had to ask everyone there if we could clean around them lmfao

[@cookiejar.mp3]

it's kinda crazy cause with disney money and the passionate creatives in it they could make amazing original animated films, actually interesting retellings/irl adaptations..... it's just sad, and then on top of that hating rachel zegler for her snow white remarks is crazy 😭

[@lolajean1223]

The Rachel Zegler thing pissed me off so much cause ppl were really defending a fictional character created by a man- who didn't care about women and treated the actress who played her like shit- against a woman in defense of women?

[@b_a_t_m_a_n_]

It blows my mind that out of the two actresses, zegler is receiving hate for being slightly annoying in interviews than gadot, who openly supports a genocide.

[@maninanikittycat4238]

Can we all agree that despite all the controversy the Snow White remake is gonna be mid?

[@iain9757]

Yes and when it’s actually out hardly anyone will care

[@WoodwindBuddies]

⁠@@iain9757then they’ll just move onto the next young starlet to tear to shreds while retrospects on how we were too mean to Rachel Zegler come out!

[@AJ-xc4qe]

This era for children’s media in general has been crap since 2019 when Andi Mack got cancelled, Cameron Boyce died tragically and the live action Lion King became the highest grossing “animated” movie of all time made by a filmmaker who doesn’t even call it animated! At least Inside Out 2 outgrossed them this year! Personally, the market of the industry that’s suffering the most compared to any other market are family friendly media. From KZbin disabling comment sections of even the oldest videos that just so happen to have no sex, violence or cuss words, some may even be old enough that adults would only know about them. Or Victor Zsasz or whatever his name is influencing companies into purging talented people’s hard work from availability just to save money, many of which being animated and/or kid-friendly. Or tv networks, cable or streaming, making no effort advertising or even preserving their content including content meant for families or at least the better ones and replacing them with either content that does the bare minimum or doesn’t even try to improve that gets rewarded for multiple renewals (Young Dylan) or revivals/reboots/sequels of their parent’s’ favorite shows. Or at the most, older sibling’s’ favorite shows (The Really Loud House, Teen Titans Go). I don't care how excited I was for Wizards Beyond Waverly Place or Phineas & Ferb or Alice in the Palace or The Fairly OddParents A New Wish or other revivals including from Cartoon Network. The originals matter just as much not just for movies but for media altogether. I’m in my late 20s and I feel terrible for kids right now because adult executives blatantly hate anything they can write off as kids stuff like animation, even if it’s for adults. And these live action remakes aren’t helping. At this rate, I’m expecting it to get worse for a long time before it'll get better.

[@iain9757]

I fully agree with your comment & wand to add that the pandemic massively speed this up because everyone wanted to consume

[@ogome2927]

well look at it like this with how bad it is rn the good news is that at least it can only get better in the future then hopefully

[@aishambengue3024]

Facts, children's media, and family media are just as important, but it gets over generalized cause executives don't support projects that actually treat the audience with respect or are creative. I mean, we still have new gems, and there are always older family films that are classics, but we need to continue moving forward for the better !!!

[@alyssseil]

I mean we could all just rewatch OUAT S1-S3 a million more times, better than all these other live action remakes

[@johannaelloso9418]

Ur so real for this

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Exactly. OUAT frustrated me to no end but they made you care about these characters.

[@Robbie896]

Haha yes, I just finished watching season 4...I definitely care about the characters even if the plots are garbage

[@violetlavi2207]

YEP - for all OUAT's flaws (and it has quite a good chunk), there was heart in the first few seasons

[@justjoannak]

Agreed tbh

[@kylemeyer8015]

Let's be honest....it's misogyny

[@rainebows]

so clearly is, ppl love picking a poc women to hate on every month

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@rainebows then in a few years people start making videos about how we were so mean to x famous woman while dog piling on another one for having complex thoughts and opinions on their projects instead of blindly singing it praises.

[@suryamgangwal8315]

7:50 There can be both reasons. Peter may be talking about how dwarves are only cast as dwarves in movies, but it can also be Peter's comments that led to Disney execs doing what they did.

[@cinemachronic]

Definitely doesn't make it his fault. He frankly sounds like he doesn't think the movie should be made at all

[@ajames3062]

I just know Disney has those original 7 dwarves actors tied up and bound somewhere with NDAs now that they are replaced with CGI. Hope they got paid well tho

[@rainebows]

PLS JUST WATCH MIRROR MIRROR yall its got the snow white the rights want, the prince gets character growth, snow white can fight bc she trains herself to defend herself and she uses kindness as her strength, the dwarves are actually played by little people and they all get their own personality and story behind how they found another. it may not have music but it has amazing costume design and sets.

[@emmalijewski8302]

omg yes! I see all this discourse over Snow White the fairytale and the Disney live-action and I'm just like GUYS MIRROR MIRROR IS RIGHT THERE! IT HAS EVERYTHING YOU ARE ASKING FOR!

[@Jezzascmezza]

8:45 - Wonder Woman's 7.5 years old, so definitely more than a couple of years ago, if we're talking about her first central/lead role. And I also think she first came on the scene with the Fast and Furious movies, with the first three she was in all being more than a decade old.

[@deanstownhall]

Tbh I think Disney does the color blind casting because it gives them an out from any other criticism of their projects because they just lump it all together and say ‘people are mad at diversity’ meanwhile the critique was literally about the plot.

[@lfsantacruz8703]

Operation Olive Branch is such an amazing charity. Love to see my favorite content creators all collectively supporting and promoting good causes. Thank you. ❤

[@ogome2927]

honestly shout out for kayla for supporting good causes and giving the charity a shout out tbf, kayla has always been one of my faves and seeing her give this charity some support has defo made her go up even more in my estimation that she was already up there to begin with!

[@heymistercarter.]

The sad thing is, Rachel Zegler can be a talented actress, and it shows when you give her the right scripts to work with. She just REALLY needs to fire her media coach, or at least get a competent one, because there are times she speaks up on things she really shouldn't. It doesn't do her career any favors when she blurts half the stuff she says out. I guess we'll see what happens with her career in the end.

[@iain9757]

She’s never said anything wrong

[@zamulakincaid]

Rachel Zegler is a great choice for Snow White, but the costume designer did her so freaking dirty in this. It's Ursula all over again.

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

She expressed her opinion on politics and got hated on but when celebs don't speak up on politics, they also get hated on. She said this Snow White is more progressive, Emma Watson said the same thing about Beauty and the Beast and no one hates her. She didn't say positive things about Snow White animated version, many actors have bashed their movies and adaptation they've done and they don't get hated on. There's not one thing she's said or done that makes sense for all the hate she's gotten, the internet picks and chooses who they hate and most of the time it's young women.

[@ogome2927]

she’s a good actress but sadly anyone in a live action disney remake is going to get backlash headed towards their way esp if they’re a woc i think it’s bc we know these live action remakes are terrible mostly anyways and the natrual racism that goes against these woc actresses in general also as well

[@sof7068]

@@iain9757yeah, but maybe it’s the way she says it. It doesn’t matter what you say, it’s the way you say it, otherwise it can easily be misconstrued, or misunderstood. People will do so anyway, but it’s a lot easier for people to name you an "angry feminist" (for example) when you lose your temper vs when you speak about it in a more calm way. In this case, I understand how the way Rachel Ziegler was sort of laughing while speaking of the new feminist spin the film would have wouldn’t be taken well by original superfans of the film.

[@EvanSol919]

Disney should just try and get a tax write off for this film and then just stop with the live action remakes.

[@ajpat9620]

Doubtful that Disney would ever stop the live-action remake trend, unless one of its live-action films ends up flopping, critically and commercially (looking at Disney live-action Snow White movie). Like, blame Tim Burton's live-action adaptation of Alice in Wonderland for starting Disney's live-action remake/adaptations.

[@EvanSol919]

@ajpat9620 No, I blame people paying to see these cash grabs in theaters.

[@cakt1991]

I can’t help but think back to that Variety article that came out about toxic fandom in fantasy and other adjacent media, like Rings of Power, Star Wars, and Bridgerton when situations like this come up. Studios are as money-driven as ever, and they care more about what serves their bottom line than caring either about the quality of the art or about their actors. They’re hiring diversely now because it’s “trending,” but they do nothing to protect the actors from abuse from the public when a property is “bad,” and those actors become shields the executives use against criticism so they can continue to put out more of the same. Rachel Zegler needs media training, for sure, but the gist of some of what she was saying isn’t inconsistent with the general branding with the live-action remakes, pushing (to varying degrees of success) updates to make them more “modern” that other studios may have already done. Disney should be getting way more flack than her. Same with pretty much every situation where people piled on a BIPOC or other minority actor who allegedly “ruined” their favorite movie or tv show.

[@aishambengue3024]

Thank you like they are putting the blame on the wrong thing, Rachel just wanted to do her job. It'd be Disney that needs to re-evaluate things of

[@WoodwindBuddies]

I love how apparently Halle Bailey playing Ariel is “childhood ruining.” I’d call the CGI Flounder, Sebastian, and Awkwafina bird more childhood ruining, but sure the fantasy creature being black is the deal breaker.

[@cakt1991]

@ CGI Flounder kinda grew on me, especially with Jacob Tremblay’s voice, but I have to agree on the others, especially Awkwafina as Scuttle. The Scuttlebutt song alone was ear-splitting.

[@stickbat9]

I love your comment, but I would even go further and say what Disney is doing is actually being racist and mysogynyst and then using the darvo technique when called out; because they use people of color and women as PROPS, as objects, exactly in the way you described - - they dehumanize them, put them in a remake, then throw them to the curb and in front of a lynch mob when the property is bad, and then they darvo the mob about how the mob are racist and toxic actually. It's about the executive class being racist and toxic and mysogynyst. This is all about class warfare imo.

[@funmilayotijani3119]

Rachel Zeglar is not just Latina, she's half Polish too. I feel like people just skip part of her heritage when it's a huge part. Disney wins brownie point by claiming that they are casting a minority Latina character when shes just as much Polish as she's Latina. And lets not forget how dismissive she was when actual Puerto Ricans raised concerns that her Latin heritage was Colombian and not representative of them. IMO Rachel is only progressive when it benefits her but I do agree the hate against her is way overboard.

[@stxrstrxckmxteo515]

yeah she’s literally just a diversity hire. I honestly struggle to feel bad for her like she kinda did this to herself but whatever at least she has great taste with her red carpet style

[@packapunchinella]

This! It’s like people have never heard of white Latinos. Rachel may not be 100% white, but she is overwhelmingly white. Being “Latina” doesn’t erase that. Latina is an ethnicity, not a race.

[@zhpprojmang]

Her Great Grandmother was Polish, hardly half.

[@ple8379]

Yeah, we don't really like her in Poland either. Polish youtube is also calling her out.

[@maeby3258]

honestly as a Latin American, nobody here would even consider her latina. Her grandmother was Colombian, but that's about it lol. People in the USA have a very different interpretation of nationalities and ethnicities

[@christina.kleman]

If you’re adding Gal Gadot to this video, WE NEED a video of *How the Internet Fell Out of Love with Gal Gadot* !!!

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

That would be an interesting video, regardless of the Isreal/Palestine angle, there was a time where she was really hyped up (mainly post Wonder Woman 2017) and seemingly proved herself as an actual talent. But then the more movies she was in, the more and more people started to dislike her. Both as an actress and public figure, the Imagine video was a big pinnacle of this for sure.

[@R-fi2je]

Mobs thrive on ignorance. Jews are 0.2% of the global pop & Israel is smaller than NJ, with zero resources. Propaganda vs them is run by Muslims at 25% of the global pop, oil wealthy, & Iran runs the genocidal encirclement of Israel.

[@livevikarisly]

Also there was that whole thing where Gal Gadot blamed and shamed a woman who was SAed by her male friend.

[@JDotWill]

I feel bad for Rachel Zegler honestly. & most of the people that worked on this film. It’s probably going to bomb & I hope we never have to hear about it again, but I know we will. Hopefully Rachel’s career isn’t negatively impacted by this film & all the nonsense surrounding it. & she should’ve never apologized

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@JDotWill eh I don’t think it’ll bomb (critically). It’ll probably be mediocre at the least. I wouldn’t put it past people to review bomb it though.

[@alyssapinon9670]

I think Rachel will be fine. She was amazing in TBOSBAS. I think she needs more roles where she can show her spunky side that also aren’t corporate girlboss feminism.

[@kasairan8492]

yall have been saying "its going to bomb" about every single disney remake and they never do. the truth is most people arent as online as we are, they dont know shit about the controversies, they just want to take their kids to see a cute princess movie as a family. disney makes bank, its why they keep making these

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@kasairan8492 I think people forget who the intended audience for Disney movies is. Ofc they should be able to enjoyed by anyone, and recycled stories are boring, but these are ultimately meant for kids and families, not the Disney adults. Also people have a really weird relationship with Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora. Yeah they’ve been unfairly treated for years, but now any criticism is seen as the equivalent of the mean girl at school calling your best friend fat and ugly.

[@JDotWill]

@@WoodwindBuddiesI know RT has apparently made some changes that would prevent review bombing but I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@exileayahika]

8:33 YES! Peter Dinklage doesn't have the power to influence to affect this $350 million+ budget from Disney, of all companies

[@Disre.damn.spectful]

I’m not gonna watch for 2 reasons. 1) Gal Gadot 2) I’m sick of remakes

[@lauren6509]

People mad at Rene being Colombian is nonsensical because she's a white woman genotypically and phenotypically. There are Black Colombians and White Colombians. Her mother is a white Colombian so she still is a white woman as well as her father.

[@mana-uv7cz]

My complaints are CGI and the awful hair and makeup look they gave her.

[@mysticwater9056]

the thing i hate most about these remakes is that most of the time when you look at the critique surrounding these movies is just like jobless incels and racist creeps whining about bigoted stuff and not the actual problems with these movies like Kayla was talking about.

[@margoatfinch]

Thank you for mentioning Palestine 🇸🇩 most of other videos that's talking about this movie seems to gloss over, not mention at all about gal gadot's stance with IDF.

[@hf18455]

Wish Disney invested all the money they do on remakes for new original stories, I also miss animation styles from the early 2000’s not the 3D stuff today

[@iain9757]

“Kayla No” (but said in the tone of Gal Gadots “Kal-El No”.)

[@miakirilova7255]

Instead of going back to their roots by remaking their first cartoon movie into life-action, I think they should've gone back by searching for inspiration in fairy tales and crating cartoons from them. Hansel and Grethel, for example, it follows all the plot points Disney are writing about recently - it's about family love and not about romance and it have a strong female lead, who ends up ending the villain. It also have a strong male lead, which will bring more boys in the audience 🤷‍♀️

[@jswjanjan]

Outstanding analysis!!! Thanks Kayla - beautifully expressed.👍💫

[@hannahhinners4456]

As for me I'll just be rewatching Mirror Mirror

[@oceanman7652]

Loved the video! 1:30 I agree with most of your arguments in this video, but I still think that deffending Rachel’s casting is not the best thing to do. The way I see it (and this is coming from a Mexican woman) is that if there were to be a latino live action remake, like Encanto or even Coco, I certainly wouldn’t appreciate the casting to be completely opposite from what most of the film’s characters look like (white and from non-latino origins). And if there were to be a Princess and the Frog Disney remake, it certainly wouldn’t be well received to cast a white person for the main roles. So why is it okay to cast a latina in a movie that is talking about European culture? It seems a bit hypocritical to me. If they want to cast a darker skinned european person, then that’s fine, at least they would identify more with the culture they’re representing. I’m not saying that Zegler is to blame, nor is this the only case where this has happened. This is purely the executive’s fault, but I don’t think it’s something to defend at all. But yeah anyways, I wasn’t even planning to see this movie, haven’t seen a Disney remake in years. The blatant way they are using supperficial social justice aspects to defend their lazy nostalgia cash grabs is gross.

[@WillTheGreatest]

Its insane to me that American Pie casted 7 little people in its franchise before Disney made the strange ass decision to make the Dwarves all CG. Which probably wouldve cost way more money and resources than just hiring 7 humans.

[@Probablylani]

8:26 having fantastical elf-like CGI dwarves instead of the very real and natural ACTUAL little people seems so much worse lmao. Fuckin Disney 😂

[@plushstrawberryfrog]

i’d love to know what the feedback from the little people community is. like you said, it’s nuanced, and their voices are certainly going to overshadowed. i encourage people to look to those communities and understand that they’re not a monolith

[@justjoannak]

Agreed

[@justpassingthrough686]

You have some of the most even-handed takes on pop culture (and the corresponding socio-political subtext) I've ever come across. Keep it up!

[@SnapeArgento]

finally someone who made a video about this controversy without calling Rachel ugly or trash her bc of her opinions

[@farah_lynn]

I'm hoping people stand behind their critiques and don't throw their money at this movie to see it in theaters

[@Greybell]

I have to disagree on your take on Snow White being played by a Latina. Her character is literally defined by her skin tone and I'm aware how toxic that beauty standard is, but there are so many ways they can modernize it without replacing what makes Snow White "Snow White". Besides Disney's diverse casting feels extremely performative and became a scapegoat for people to not realize the movies are bad because of the soulless direction, not the casting.

[@Daniel-IC-995]

I have no problem with a Latina Snow White, or a Snow White who has a bigger purpose than just being poisoned and then rescued by the prince. There have been plenty of Snow Whites before Rachel's version (including Kristin Kreuk who's not white), and no one had a problem with it. The changes in this movie feel politically charged to most people. And this version is a direct adaption of a beloved specific cartoon, not another original interpretation. With both live-action Ariel and live-action Snow white, it feels like Disney is saying the original versions were not politically correct enough, or good enough at all, and these new versions are what the characters were always supposed to be like. I thought Halle Bailey was lovely as Ariel (even though I think the movie could have been better). But Rachel Zegler as Snow White? Well, once you criticize the original so heavily, there's no way to win fans over. And her Snow White is simply as not as revolutionary as she thinks that it is. Kristen Kreuk, Lily Collins, Ginnifer Goodwin aka the best live-action Snow white, and even Kristen Stewart have all already done the "groundbreaking" stuff with Snow White. Rachel's Snow White is late to the groundbreaking party with its 2016 girlboss feminism. The trailer genuinely looks like it was AI-generated. Disney could actually unite everyone if they were to shelve this movie forever and just admit that it didn't work out as intended.

[@ogome2927]

tbh all these remakes of disney princesses have been done to death and are just boring af she’s doing nothing to rlly reinvent the wheel bc she’ll always be seen as second rate to the og like a lot of these live action remakes

[@violetlavi2207]

"Well, once you criticize the original so heavily, there's no way to win fans over." Funny, Emma Watson didn't have that issue in 2017. And people still seem to love Gal Gadot even though she was right there with Rachel criticizing the og Snow White

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@violetlavi2207 guessing it’s easier to target young greenhorns than industry veterans

[@Rosa-kd2cl]

@@WoodwindBuddiesyep. It was her first impression for a lot of fans and it stuck.

[@jazzycat8917]

Am i the only one who doesn't even like the original Snow White movie that much? Honest to god, whose favourite animated Disney movie is Snow White? I respect it for the landmark film it was at the time, and yes it is visually very charming especially FOR the time, but that shit is boring.

[@justjoannak]

I don't like it either! She was canonically an underaged teenager (like 14) while the prince was an adult 🤮

[@danderson8431]

Tbh, I’m not fond of either actress, especially Gal. Rachel is admittedly talented, but for some reason I just don’t vibe with her, nor do I get excited to watch her projects. I wouldn’t pay never pay to see this in theaters no matter what they did with the dwarfs.

[@Barbinheimer-ke6fl]

Rachel has been an inflammatory personality for a while. She just gives Lea Michele 2.0 vibes. It started on Twitter when she was calling Jeremy Renner a tr@nsphobe and trying to cancel him and others while trying to send her fans after people she didn’t like. Also her smiling a little too much about Andrew Burnap possibly being cut from the movie because “It’s Hollywood baby,” was just ick. I think Kayla really downplayed it as “oh people don’t like her because she’s Latina and outspoken,” meanwhile Jenna Ortega is BOTH of those things playing one of the most iconic “pale” girls and she hasn’t lost any steam. Some clueless people may not want her as Wednesday because she’s Latina but the majority digs her just fine.

[@TheDreamingJune]

​@@Barbinheimer-ke6fl I agree. I'm not even much of a Jenna Ortega fan but she seems far more grounded and mature while being outspoken than Rachel does. Rachel just comes across as very obnoxious a lot of the time which can be offputting to many people. Which i think Kayla seems to be intentionally missing.

[@Barbinheimer-ke6fl]

Agreed. She didn’t even attempt to go deeper this time beyond very surface level controversy. If Ortega is Chappell Roan then Zeigler is Jojo Siwa (even though I don’t think JoJo is even this toxic)

[@bunsbuns9072]

I was thinking the same thing. From what I've seen, while that one interview that Kayla showed did get Rachel some backlash...people grew distaste for her over an accumulation of things that she did on her social media. Also, a lot of people didnt even realize she was latina until the hate train started (and then unfortunately decided to include that into their argument of why she shouldnt play snow white). While i agree that the hate Rachel is getting is wayyy too much, I also think Kayla didnt quite show the full scope of why so many people, including other young female POC, are annoyed with the actress.

[@luckybiperson]

Something that’s also crazy about the Rachel Zegler thing to me is that in The Hunger Games spheres online, the consensus is very positive towards her LMAO. Like, very positive id say, at least the very popular fan accounts and blogs. But that is just my anecdotal experiences, as someone who feels fairly neutral towards celebrities in general. So yes, I feel as though I can further validate the idea that she was well praised for Tbosas

[@sanyatar5plus]

the same with Rachel’s recent R+J broadway musical. in comments there is only positivity towards her performance. it looks like completely different planets comparing to anti-woke discourse about her

[@bluebaron6858]

Make disney stop 😢

[@TheRealLeewon]

This is gonna get like a 5.2 rating on IMDB, I’m calling it now

[@vicus2275]

why do we even need live action remakes like Just stick with the original movie their is no reason to make a remake if the original did well its literally Just a cash grab

[@ajpat9620]

Blame Tim Burton's 2010 live-action adaptation of Alice in Wonderland, for starting the Disney live-action remake/adaptation trend in the first place.

[@jmg999]

As you were showing images from live-action Disney remakes, it just occurred to me that I've never seen a single one of them. I have, however, seen every single Disney animated feature they've ever made, some of them multiple times. I found it ironic that this was the case.

[@Karras353]

I cannot say as I do have a particularly puritanical view of who should play Snow White. But when a writer provides such a vivid description of a physical characteristic, the choice of whether or not to honour that characteristic in adaptations is more of an aesthetic one than racial. I mean, many "white" people aren't even as pale skinned as might be imagined from :"skin as white as snow". Certainly just about anyone who is capable of getting a tan might not even stay that way all year round. US concepts of "race" don't necessarily align with those of other countries anyway but it is also a bit artificial for the focus (by both defenders and detractors alike) to be on the Latina aspect when the other half is Polish. I'm not sure exactly what the make up of her Columbian side is likely to be but honestly as far as any of this matters in the slightest (really not much at all), she'd probably be considered "white" if born in Europe with that parentage. As for her skin tone, I'm not even sure what that is naturally but some pictures do make her look relatively pale. So presumably there is some tanning and'/or make up involved in tweaking it one way or the other. So they probably could even make the aesthetic choice with Zegler to match the accepted description if they wanted to. But the emphasis is more on leaning into her "non-white" heritage for diversity reasons, so that seems unlikely. At the end of the day though, if Disney themselves are going to cast someone for cynical, racially motivated reasons then they can certainly expect people to comment on that. And it is unreasonable to accuse everyone who does so of being a racist. The moral posturing of a company like Disney over these subjects is quite tiresome, especially when they only have to release a movie somewhere like China for us to see how insincere it all is.

[@user-xt7tn9ii6l]

This is all so, SO exhausting, and 90% of the "discussions" regarding this film are blatantly in bad faith. I have no interest in seeing this film (have never seen a Disney live action remake and intend to keep it that way), but the vitriol people are able to summon whenever it is brought up is so wild to me. The hate for Rachel Zegler is wildly disproportionate to anything she has said or done -- WHO CARES that she was scared of Snow White as a kid? Disney saw an opportunity to cut labour costs (which they love to do!) and removed little people from the film -- the idea that any of this is Dinklage's fault is such a braindead take, but yep let'sblame pretty much the only big actor who is a little person rather than the megaconglomerate! Gal Gadot really doesn't have any business being in this film for several reasons, and the fact that Zegler (and Dinklage, who isn't even in the film!) are getting more heat than HER tells you everything you need to know about the intelligence of the average American.

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@user-xt7tn9ii6l I saw people claim that Zegler’s election comments were threatening harm on Trump supporters. If you read them, while it’s probably unprofessional, she was well within her right to make them, and she was threatening harm on no one. But being mad is more fun I guess

[@iain9757]

So I have not seen a lot of the live action remakes, I’ve not seen Cinderella which many say is the best *but* I do feel that because it was 2015 and Cinderella had been adapted thousands of times people were much more willing to let it stand on it’s own 10 years later with Snow White another story which has been done to death loads I don’t feel Disney *will* do what Cinderella did again? Maybe these reimagining should have been more “low key” for use of a better word, get up and coming directors who WANT to revisit these stories in a modern interesting way but then Disney sees money and making something like this means “safe cash”

[@cold_shiver00]

The live action Cinderella worked because they hired Kenneth Branagh to direct who does a lot of Shakespeare and understood the assignment: that Cinderella was supposed to be theatrical and magical. Also had fantastic costumes

[@iain9757]

@@cold_shiver00it’s wild to me that Aladdin was a Guy Richie film, the guy who directed moonlight is doing that Musafa film yet you’re right. KB wanted to do his Cinderella - did any of the other directors what to do theirs ?

[@iain9757]

I would watch The Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes , I’ve only seen the first HG and read the 1st & 3rd book. I was blown away honestly it was really good, such a rollercoaster

[@johannaelloso9418]

CATCHING FIRE IS THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME PLEEEAAASE CHECK IT OUT SOON (Ive never read the books BUT I LOVE THE 2ND MOVIE SO MUCH!!!)

[@rainebows]

fr i love that hunger games so much, i love seeing the life past the games in a new way

[@justjoannak]

​@@johannaelloso9418 Would recommend reading the books in some way if you can

[@christine9122]

Ughhh Gal Gadot. immediately no

[@calmandfree]

This is me shamlessly plugging the movie Mirror Mirror, a great snow white adaptation if you haven't watched it.😉😉

[@andrewlocke6103]

Never heard of this young Zegler lady but she can move the muscles in her face to make expressions, and that’s more than you can ask of 95% of actors these days

[@user-ek6sr9mz1p]

Nice shoutout to OOB Kayla!! Ur a real one 🫶

[@Monkey_Boy9602]

Being mixed, I take offense at the Aryan jab. I find this kind of casting highly disrespectful. When race-swapping occurs, especially in ways like this, it's telling that particular race, "You're not worth a story about your history and culture. So here's a place in a White story." I mean, they made Ariel Black and gave her a Latin dad and multicultural sisters. Um. Ariel's whole family was the same race in the original. Why didn't we get an entirely Black family? Why is this acceptable for folks? It's the bare minimum! It's laziness! It's for a remake that isn't even going to be any good! Why would anybody want this kind of representation? It's absolute bullplop. Also, her name is Snow White because her skin was as white as snow. It's like naming Han and Leia's son Ben when that was Luke's son's name, and for good reason! Changing who the name belongs to completely changes the meaning behind the name.

[@yeeyeeasshaircut3929]

1:38 I think that controversy gets even dumber when u remember that Rachel Zelgler is half white

[@blackjackal8770]

I'm brazilian and by my definition Rachel Zegler isn't Latina since she wasn't born or raised in a Latin American country. Not saying this to drag her because I understand that in the USA y'all just use this word differently (although I don't like it lmao), it's really just to contextualize my next comment, which is: When I look at her, I see a white woman with pretty fair skin. She's also petite, short black hair looks good on her and she is definitely beautiful like a Disney princess. To me when it comes to LOOKS, she is perfect for this role and the whole discourse doesn't even make sense.

[@lug358]

I dont agree with Peter at all. He can say that as he has conquered everything in Hollywood. Unfortunatelly, people with his condition dont have many chances in acting, and being seen in a Hollywood megaproduction could be a first step. Yes the movie was called "Snowhite and the 7 dwarfs", but in the movie Snowhite calls them "little people" and only the evil queen calls them dwarfs. And in the original tale, they are supossed to be some kind of forest magical creatures, but their size and height and such is necer mentioned, the idea we have about that story was fixated by the Disney movie, who decided that they should be 7 dwarfs and be on a mine and those things that are not in the original tale. I thought those 7 magical people looked ridiculous im sorry, maybe it was the overall vibe, the clothes are all over the place, the characterizations are not special...idk it is a disaster.

[@wwozanewmusical]

Dinklage is not the only person who is allowed to speak for the little people community, I as a little person myself could have made money being in this film, and others also, its not our fault or problem that we can be only in or seen to be cast as munchkins, monkeys, and dwarfs or fairy's or half lings. it is what it is, and his remake of serrano sucked and it was because the lead character was short and the score was bad. somethin things art not made for every one. get used to it. I'm proud to be an elf and a munchkin mayor and a flying monkey. it means you always will be hired for jobs. We are not all that lucky to get Game of thrones Dinklage.

[@SnapeArgento]

it's kinda like he's not letting other little people from the community achieve success in Hollywood, he should know better and unfortunately building a career in the acting industry in already hard, this could've open doors for many actors

[@pushkin1969]

The whole "white as snow" is also a literary trope meaning that she is pure and good. Also, Snow White was the daughter of a king. She was snow white because she never worked. Being pale and with no tan was considered a status symbol of the elite.

[@FurbyFullyLoaded]

NGL if their first animated movie becomes their last live action remake that’d be pretty poetic. Assuming of course the execs accurately diagnose the issue as low quality nostalgia slop instead of scapegoating the minorities they gave breadcrumbs to…

[@CelestiaLudenberg1122]

There is still the live action moana

[@madelion24]

Cinderella was the only 10/10 live action remake from Disney, and done with a quarter of the budget of the other remakes they've made since.

[@coolbeans5911]

Peter Dinklage: "backwards story about dwarfs living in a cave" Pete they lived in their own house, they were mining in the caves, which is a very fantasy dwarf thing to do🤦‍♀️

[@pixelcherris]

2:08 girl come on 🙄🙄

[@dreamguardian8320]

It all started with Snow White, I would not be surprised if it all ended for Disney with Snow White.

[@CelestiaLudenberg1122]

There are already filming live action Moana

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@CelestiaLudenberg1122 Well, if the the Snow White movie dose not bring Doomsday to Disney, the live action Moana, or the upcoming live action Lilo and Stitch could.

[@CelestiaLudenberg1122]

@dreamguardian8320 I think they'll still continue with the Moana one cuz the rock is there and he's the one pushing for the live action movie

[@smooshpopper2]

The hair is genuinely insulting, they clearly phoned that in like “aaah idfk her hair was short just do that I guess”

[@orcasplayhouse]

disney making a movie abt a girl overthrowing a fascist empire....then making their lead apologize for saying ppl who voted for a fascist empire dont deserve peace.......so girlboss...

[@emosupportanimal]

Another certified Kayla Says banger , you’re allergic to bad takes!

[@pushkin1969]

Also, if people want to dialogue with the original Grimm Brothers' story: 1) There was no kiss 2) SW is awakened because the apple falls out of her throat 3) There is no magic at all except the magic mirror 4) The narrator is telling a story in the 19th century about a feudal period 200-300 years before 5) No where is it ever said specifically where and in what country this took place 6) The ability of the Queen Regent to live in that huge castle all that time with the heir is pretty iffy 5) A modern invention from the 30's film is to make the queen "ethnic" looking - that also did not exist in the original story. Also, should Snow White and everybody be speaking High Middle German? because that's where it all supposedly took place. People get angry about the most random shit.

[@andieshults4083]

just discovered kaylasays and these short form video essays have me hooked

[@andrewjpalla]

I like Zegler in the performances I've seen. I don't think she's a bad actress. I know it might feel inauthentic to who she is as a person, but how difficult is it to say 'I love the original, and I'm excited to be a part of the remake' it doesn't seem that hard.

[@julieblair7472]

These movies will be trashed so bad in the future. They are all exploitative pandering. Like fan service, but for fans that Disney speculated to exist.

[@lucassantiago697]

Rachel just can’t catch a break. She got a lot of backlash for playing Maria as well because they said she wasn’t Latina enough. I’m glad she’s booked and busy because she’s got talent

[@floral_boi]

You can tell Disney doesn't actually give a shit about feminism or progressive values when they are letting a 23 year old Latina woman be torn apart online for years as a rep for a movie she is just staring in but has no power around the casting, special effects, script, etc....

[@WoodwindBuddies]

@@floral_boi and also silencing her regarding her opinions on the state of the country while letting people believe that she was threatening Trump supporters, which she wasn’t doing.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I have said this before: If you want to remake Snow White, have the dwarves be her dads. They adopted her. Also, does anyone else think that the Evil Queen shot herself in the foot for no good reason?

[@yendyss]

the only snow white remakes i will accept are snow white & the huntsman starring kristen stewart and mirror mirror starring lily collins

[@WoodwindBuddies]

The 1937 film is beautiful and lovely, but Snow White gets overshadowed by side characters almost immediately. It might as well be called The Seven Dwarves and the Evil Queen ft. Snow White. While I am morbidly curious about the movie, I am also interested in how the film will tell Snow White differently. It could be an interesting take on the fairytale (let’s be real Disney never follows the original stories), but it’s most likely just gonna be shallow corporate feminism to pretend to be progressive. I don’t think it’ll bomb (critically), but I wouldn’t put it past people to review bomb it. I think it’ll just be another mid remake because Disney hates taking risks, but they love using their leading actresses as their meat shields. It’s so sad that they refuse to stamp out misinformation spread about Zegler, especially her election comments and how a bunch of people are saying she’s threatening harm on Trump supporters (which she isn’t). Also I love how people will go to war for fictional characters while trashing real people who have something to say about them. Idk if I have to say this, but Snow White isn’t real. She won’t thank anyone for tearing down Zegler to defend her honor and end wokeness or whatever. The Disney Princess subreddit LOVES to sing praises to Snow, Cinderella, and Aurora for being kind and optimistic despite their terrible circumstances, but they will be petty about Zegler (but sure she’s the mean girl narcissist) and basically do the opposite of what they praise the original three for. Anyway, hopefully Zegler can have a good career. Succeeding in the arts is hard, and I’m glad she’s doing that. Hopefully the internet mob won’t snuff out her star. Side note: considering what is being said about this Snow White and the absolute rage that she’ll become a leader (again she isn’t real and bends to the whims of the writers and producers and executives), people will 100% call Mulan (animated one) a pick-me or NLOG if that movie came out today.

[@sourcherrywithquinnie]

say what you will about rachel zegler she is actually a decent actress and can sing and puts effort in her acting. She also has acting credibility. Her acting in the ballad of songbirds and snakes was good. Gadots acting in the trailer was the weak link. In past disney films the villains are all great actors/actresses. How was Gadot even casted for this film??? I only remember her in wonder woman which her acting was also bad and her role in fast and furious where she was also the weakest link.