"Galatians Proves that we Should Observe the Torah (Law) - Part 1" 6/7/15 (3/18)

[@shaul76239]

I am Jew who has become a follower of Y'shua. I just want to say that what you are doing is great. Well done brother.

[@RaphaEl-pn8ue]

shaul76239 what was the icebreaker to bring u to this revelation of Y’shua??

[@Jewel22268]

I was one of those for years that was taught and was teaching we are under grace. Then recently, Yeshua spoke to my spirit these Words, 'how do you plan to rule and reign with Me as a king and a priest if you don't know My judgements?' That question caught my attention real fast, because I knew His judgements were given in the Torah! I ran to look up the Torah reading for that week (I didn't practice weekly Torah reading), and He definitely made His point- it was "Shoftim"-Judges! For some reason it took the Holy Spirit of Yeshua to ask me that question before I understood why we read the Torah. Yeshua is so patient, He waited a long time before He confronted me with this issue. Though I am sure He had tried many times before, but I did not hear. I am forever grateful to Him in seeking me out that day to reveal the truth. Shalom

[@edserrano1803]

Thank you for sharing The Torah of YHVH Father, my friend.

[@Samayaslight]

I battle this right now among my community. It is so drilled into modern "christianity" that Galatians says you will lose your salvation if you keep the law! Yet, out of the other side of their mouth, they will say that God does not change! It is frustrating. I keep praying they will sit with Galatians and maybe bring out their interlinear bible to pick it apart. Or, maybe listen to James. Help them, Yeshua, to see the truth!

[@MK4Hisglory]

Late to the party having just come across this, but excellent teaching!!! Very thorough explanation and connection of scriptures. Well done, thank you.

[@a.b.2132]

Galatians and Romans is deep, you have to use discernment. The Spirit has to guide you in it. I've reread it a few times. We are to keep the Torah! Hallelujah

[@confederatecharlie]

As a Messianic Jewish Rabbi, I have come up against this time and time again. thank you for put this out, I now have another good source.

[@omiktamuk6469]

I AM FOLLOWER OF TORAH THE WORDS OFYAIWEH SHALOM FROM INDIA.

[@srikarbabu519]

Brother, where do you stay??

[@Israel-of-Yah]

Awesome ❤

[@iansmith9474]

"How dare you keep my laws!" That's actually pretty comedic.

[@sfetterly6200]

Just came across your teachings, I've been studying Torah over 5 years and preaching it over 2 years ... welcome brother. Shalom

[@dex1141]

Yes.. we should not judge know one but to share The light, light does not take away it gives.

[@mariannegordon9840]

I need deliverance from cigarettes! Please pray for me.

[@eliyahministries]

Will do

[@daleeickhoff1345]

Thank I've been waiting for a good resource concerning this subject.

[@johnlawson6851]

11:00 vs 1-2 12:24 vs 3-5 13:29 vs 6-7 35:25 vs 8-9 37:18 vs 10-12 38:42 vs 13-14 39:02 vs 15-17 1:03:54 vs 18-21 1:04:23 vs 22-24

[@servant442]

Shabbat shalom brother! Thank you for this, definitely an important study to establish correct understanding! Abba Yah bless you!

[@derkgold6395]

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself Galatians 5:14

[@eliyahministries]

Yes, because all of the law & prophets hang on the two great commands. Thus, we cannot be claiming to love unless we are observing His law. Every commandment in the law is instruction in how to love.

[@derkgold6395]

EliYah the weightier matters of the law yes, suffer your neighbour not to sin, call them to repentance is the highest form of love, the condemnable sins. The ten commandments essentially.

[@dallyjacobson2146]

This is a great, straight, and precise truth. Thanks very much from Australia.

[@hugoramirez7510]

HalleluYAH

[@a.b.2132]

We keep YAH commands because we love HIM! if your keeping for any other reason your lost. The words states if you love Me you will keep My commands. If you don't keep the commands and say you love HIM you are a liar!

[@angelamorgan8514]

Thank you so much for sharing this truth. I am having a better understanding of the word of Yashua. Please continue to bless the body with revelation knowledge to the body. May YHVA continue to bless you and your family.🫢😁🙂

[@vickytengelitsch3789]

I also need deliverance from cigarettes and a better understand of the word thank you in the name of yahusha

[@Love18wheelz]

We are working thru all this mess. By listening to his voice." Here is the way ,walk in it" - ABBA

[@iosanahirt9454]

I truly enjoyed this teaching! Thank you very much and may Yahweh bless you, your family and your ministry, abundantly.

[@mariannegordon9840]

I was recently in a Mennonite Church. I was not permitted to have one of the hats that they wear because I'm not a member.

[@mariannegordon9840]

So we are obedient out of love for Yahweh and Yeshua?

[@eliyahministries]

That's what it's always all about.

[@schnittteisen]

You did a great job and your video was real blessing to me. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of Elohim. You made some very interesting points I have never considered before. At times it is not easy if you have so called brothers telling you that you are in danger of being thrown into the lake of fire because they don´t understand that YHWHs teachings and His grace are not opposite to each other.

[@DesertGardensHomestead]

Amen Brother. Praise Yah.

[@mariannegordon9840]

Thank you for sharing this teaching!!! It's very helpful.

[@zoegrace1031]

'Thorn in the flesh' is extreme persecution of Paul, by the enemy, wherever he went and preached the gospel. Thank you for this message. It has blessed me a lot !!

[@BTBFBG]

This stuff is fantastically easy to understand. Unfortunately, people have been taught a lie for so long, that when the truth is presented to them it's so foreign and they see so few doing it that they flippantly reject it without truly studying the matter. Of course the Law, Torah is NOT done away with. The very definition of sin is the transgression of it.... Why Christians can't see that within the very heart of their doctrine is the biggest contradictory statement ever is mind-boggling. Most will say repent of your sins, yet they will never ever ever ever tell you the biblical definition of sin. Then after they say repent, then they say we're under grace you don't have to keep the Law. Amazing blindness and outright stupidity.

[@jsaleh415]

love it shabbat shalom

[@debbyantoine]

Eli yah I love your teaching! Thank you and God bless you 🙏🙏

[@johnlawson6851]

Thank you for making this.

[@Justadudeman22]

So followers of Messiah should be circumcised then ? But it's at our own pace then ? Right ? I'm uncircumcised and feel like it should be done as it is a commandment for the seed of Abraham and we are the seed of Abraham through faith .

[@alexshatil2318]

I went to your website. I don't know of your no longer doing this? But I was really intrested in talking and learning more. Never got a call back, Nor email. Tried to talk in Chat room, NO ONE. You teach about Brotherly love, I feel that I only got a cold shoulder. Best of luck to you. I hope that you are found in the Church of Brotherly love.

[@francisfabian6577]

Excellent teaching. There is lot of confusion among self learned teaching. Seek Holy Spirit ...

[@BWyatt76]

I've been through the Bible, cover to cover, a number of times. I don't see where it says the Law has been done away with. Even Jesus said, he didn't come to do away with the Law, but to fullfill it. He also said, Heaven and Earth will pass away before the Law does.

[@hugoramirez7510]

HalleluYAH Romas 7:14 Revelation 14:12 Both Ministries

[@mariannegordon9840]

I had to wear their type of dresses too. I don't go any more because I don't feel that I'm under the right doctrine.

[@eliyahministries]

The Mennonites have some good things, in that they seek to be set apart from the world. But, like many denominations, they are usually set in their ways.

[@naomimay82]

I went to a Mennonite school and was expected to wear dresses and keep my hair pulled back, but I didn’t have to wear the coverings.

[@TheThornbird21]

Many thanks, love love your teachings, looking forward to more. I watched this video over three nights, I learned so much! May Yahweh bless your ministry. I need a place where I can learn and worship in NYC, any suggestions? Thanks again.

[@felipemejia8401]

Just remember that the word is in your heart and in your mouth; not in your traditions of man. For, I desire mercy and not sacrifice

[@riazmichaelshafi9713]

God bless you and your family and family of God and your ministry amen MOG from Pakistan

[@hugoramirez7510]

HalleluYAH Exodus 3:15, Isaiah 42:8, Psalms 64:4 YAH is His name in short version and YaHWeH is the long way.

[@JoshJorg44]

One of his sayings was that he did not abolish any of the law or the prophets in Matthew 5 17 through 19

[@rosesilvio6303]

God answered some of my questions by u may u continue to teach d truth

[@hugoramirez7510]

HalleluYAH

[@jamespimental6919]

They've not read galatians they've heard one or two verses repeated out of context from galatians a thousand times over

[@vickytengelitsch3789]

I'm on this new journey with adonai elohim my eyes have seen opened and ears need a mentor

[@charityellison1999]

I just was called to this as well from Yehweh. Wanted to do his will.

[@hugoramirez7510]

HalleluYAH

[@PianoMessage]

Shalom Shalom.

[@frankierodriguez2314]

I really injoy your teaching

[@mariannegordon9840]

Where can you get baptised in Yahushu"s Messiah's name? I was baptised In Jesus name. I have been learning the real names for God and our Messiah. I would appreciate it if you could tell me where to do this. Yahweh Elohim Bess you and thank you.

[@eliyahministries]

Where do you live? I may know someone nearby

[@johnlawson6851]

Where do you fellowship brother.

[@eliyahministries]

Shepherd's Way Fellowship of Ava, Missouri. www.ShepherdsWayofAva.com

[@felipemejia8401]

... He who has an ear, let him hear...

[@mariannegordon9840]

Thank you😊

[@kmb6343]

Curious, why Yahushua and not Yeshua?

[@eliyahministries]

See www.eliyah.com/yahushua.html

[@yeshua9323]

What video editing and software do you use?

[@eliyahministries]

+lloyd brown Adobe Premier Pro CS6

[@emfriesen6719]

Well done!

[@tailorsoldierspy6464]

Acts 15:7 If Peter was supposed to preach the good news to the Gentiles why did Paul spread the Gospel himself to the Gentiles instead?

[@eliyahministries]

Peter was given the "keys," meaning that he would open the door to ministry toward the Jews (as he did in Acts 2), then the Gentiles in Acts 9 and 10. Matthew 16:18-19 - "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Just as there were others who also ministered to Jews, there were others who ministered to the Gentiles. Peter was given the key to lay a foundation for both ministries, and others built on it.

[@tailorsoldierspy6464]

@@eliyahministries I enjoy your videos and learned a lot from them. May God bless you Brother.

[@Aquines]

Don’t just consider the book of Galatians on its own if you do you miss the rest of the Jigsaw pieces look into Romans Ephesians and Philippians. Paul was a Jew and remained a Jew and he keep the Law but he said that the Gentiles did not need to keep the law even Peter ate at the same table as the gentiles until he was enticed by the Jews until Paul set him straight even Abraham was justified by faith and not by the Law. What you are saying is Gentiles need to be circumcised keep dietary laws and keep sabbath.

[@eliyahministries]

It seems you haven't watched this full teaching. Watch it in full to answer the question. I have a teaching on Ephesians at eliyah.com/archives/ephesians-2-abolishing-the-law-in-his-flesh-2018/ and a 12 part teaching on the book of Romans, starting at eliyah.com/archives/the-book-of-romans-verse-by-verse-part-1-2016/

[@capwerohrer]

On His name Jesus you said bothers me a little about some people not knowing any better. What? Jesus is just an English translation of His Hebrew name as it was translated down over the years. I know He hears and answers people when we call upon Him by either name. God know the heart and who is calling out to Him.

[@eliyahministries]

Yes, I understand. It's the person that saves, not a pronunciation. However, it does bother me that people are told His name is Jesus when until 400 years ago, no one ever called Him that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np63e5efqsinfbM

[@garyzim]

How do you distinguish a prophet's words/writings, and, say Paul's, from the rabbis Talmud writings? Could not one argue (and do not some argue) that the Talmud is "divinely inspired", so it becomes something like prophecy, with similar authority, rather than just a bunch of legalistic nit picking as a way to apply 613 commandments to everyday living? And who and how were the texts of the New (and Old, for that matter) Testaments "chosen" by men to be the official canon of these sacred texts? Why are Paul's letters sacred but the apocrypha discarded? Who got to decide, and were they divinely inspired or just nit pickers like the writers of the Talmud? Thank you so much for these videos.

[@eliyahministries]

The Talmud is a collection of debates between Jewish leaders who call themselves "rabbis" that do not believe in the Messiah Yahushua. Yahushua warned us to beware of their doctrines. Matt. 16:6-12 - Then Yahushua said to them, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees." 7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, "It is because we have taken no bread." 8 But Yahushua, being aware of it, said to them, "O you of little faith, why do you reason among yourselves because you have brought no bread? 9 "Do you not yet understand, or remember the five loaves of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up? 10 "Nor the seven loaves of the four thousand and how many large baskets you took up? 11 "How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?-- but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." 12 Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Neither Paul or any other first century believer in Yahushua called themselves a "rabbi." For answers to your other questions, I would suggest you watch the video series called "The Reliability of Scripture" starting with Part 1 at eliyah.com/archives/the-reliability-of-scripture-part-1-evolution-vs-intelligent-design-2017/

[@garyzim]

@@eliyahministries Many thanks! I will continue my studies. Forgetting the Talmudic rabbis for a minute (though I am interested in how the Jews - and I am one - justify giving those debates any divine authority), I am also interested in who "chose" what scriptures or writings and gospels went into the Bible(s). Who said "This is divine and belongs in there, but this is not, so does not belong in there." I will view those videos you recommend, and I thank you very much for suggesting and producing them and all this content. I am still relatively new on this path to Yeshua, and trying to learn and be honest with my questions. Shalom!

[@yanifrank1]

Shalom thank you

[@martykropf421]

The translation is not the NKJV! He's reading it like the TLV Bible. NKJV uses Jesus And God. He's using Yahshua and Elohim.

[@eliyahministries]

It is the NKJV, but I restore the names.

[@martykropf421]

@@eliyahministries ok. I just knew it didn't read like my copy of NKJV. I like the Tree of Life Version best, as it's closest to the Hebrew Bible.

[@zodo11]

So you go back to the law to prove you are saved? So go back and be a Jew. Be saved then go back to prove that you are saved. Long,beard,learn Hebrew and then start keeping the law.

[@eliyahministries]

If a murderer or rapist or liar or thief decides to believe in the Savior, should he continue breaking the law or should he show forth the fruits of repentance and cease from those sins? Obviously we are supposed to repent (Romans 2:4). This said, what are the things one must repent of doing? Traditional Christianity says one doesn't have to repent for violating other select commandments such as the commands to keep the 7th day Sabbath, or feasts, or to eat clean. They use Galatians to justify that belief, but this study will show otherwise. Please watch as we go through each verse of Galatians.

[@swenett1308]

Eliyah, you say Yahushua and some say Yahshua, (one less u) which is the correct spelling and why so?

[@eliyahministries]

See www.eliyah.com/yahushua.html

[@roejoshua]

I just want to address that use of the Sacred Name. We should take our Rabbi Yeshua's example of not using it or attempting to pronounce it. No one actually knows how to pronounce the sacred name.

[@eliyahministries]

See eliyah.com/did-the-messiah-say-the-heavenly-fathers-name/

[@giovanni545]

Revelation 12:17 New International Version 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring-those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

[@deniss2]

Torah is NOT the law. So right there you've got the cat by the tail. But the question is NOT whether you should keep the law or not, but what you accomplish by doing so. You see, the whole law is good and upholding the law is summarised in, "you are to love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and strength, and your neighbour as yourself." But if you do this to gain righteousness or salvation, you have immediately lost it. Why? Because you cannot uphold the law perfectly. This is why you need God's grace, which is imparted to you on the grounds of your faith and trust in Yeshua ha'Moshiach - apart from merit. He has paid the price in full, and you cannot add to it in the least. Not that you are then permitted to do anything you want with abandon, faith leads to action. To put it differently - salvation always leads to works, but works will never lead to salvation.

[@eliyahministries]

The Hebrew word "Torah" is translated "law" 219 times, so yes "Torah" is law. No cat or tail involved. You said that works do not save us, but Salvation leads to works. That's true, and keeping the commandments in the law are supposed to be the works. Every commandment in the law is instruction in how to love Yahweh our Father, and/or how to love our fellow man.

[@deniss2]

​@@eliyahministriesI'll try one more time... Torah is much more than the Law. It may generically be referred to as such, but the Jews know that it isn't a very accurate way of representing Torah. The question is, how far do you go in keeping the Law? Do you keep the Sabbath? So do I. Do you count your steps on Shabbat so as not to exceed the prescribed Shabbat journey? Do you move objects from one room to another in your house on Shabbat? Do you know that, if someone outside your house asks you for something on Shabbat, you are not allowed to put your hand outside and give it to them, but they are allowed to put their hand inside and take it from you? Do you only eat kosher foods? Do you separate knives and utensils used for dairy, vegetables and grains and meat? Do any of the meats you eat include dairy - even in the sauces? Do you ritually wash your hands before meals (this has nothing to do with cleanliness and does not involve soap, but has a very specific procedural requirement)? How do you treat your slaves? Are you allowed to sell your daughter? May you divorce your wife, and under what conditions? Do you forgive all debts in the year of jubilee and let the land lie fallow in shmittah years? Do you do animal sacrifices as thank and sin offerings, and are these sacrifices preformed by Levite priests? Do you dress in the morning by first putting on the left sock, then the right sock, then the left shoe, then the right shoe, then the the left lace and then the right lace? Do you circumcise babies on the eighth day? I'm only touching on some of the thousands of Pharisaic determinations. But if you break the least of these, you are guilty of breaking the whole law. It seems clear that keeping the Law is a heavy and unnecessary burden. I'm not saying that you should abandon the law and return to hedonism and Universal Unitarianism, but only that the Spirit of the law is what is important. That means loving God and your neighbour. When you break the law, as you most certainly will, you should repent and return to Yahweh, our Redeemer, and confess your sin and try again. Everyone breaks the law, even the great men of God in the Tanach were guilty of some heinous transgressions, but they repented and God testifies of them that they were men after His own heart. Their faith was reckoned to them as righteousness. Salvation leads to works, but works never lead to salvation.

[@eliyahministries]

It sounds to me like you are confusing "Torah" with "Talmud." "The Torah is the law of Yahweh (which includes all of scripture), but Talmud contains a bunch of traditions of men that are nowhere found in the Torah. The law of Yahweh says nothing about which sock you put on first, or separating utensils, or ritually washing your hands before meals (which Yahushua and the disciples did not practice), etc. Some of the things you mentioned are actually found in the Torah/law of Yahweh such as keeping the Sabbath, circumcising your son on the 8th day, and refraining from eating unclean animals. These aren't burdensome, because keeping Yahweh's commandments are, as John said, "not burdensome." 1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of Elohim, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. It's man's traditions and all of the extra junk that's burdensome. We aren't saved by how perfectly we have kept the commandments, but if we think that we can ignore His commandments, we don't really have a repentant heart. And if we don't have a repentant heart, woe is us: Romans 2:4-9 - Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of Elohim leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of Elohim, 6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds": 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-- indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek;

[@deniss2]

@@eliyahministries Again you delete my response. You're not interested in the truth or willing to have rational discussion. I gave you a good and reasoned reply, but it doesn't suit your agenda. Note that this is YOUR agenda, YOUR ministry objective. And that being the case, you're opposed to truth and opposed to the God you profess to serve. Those who stand for the truth are not afraid to hear alternate opinion and discuss it. You've been put on notice. You cannot claim not to have known.

[@eliyahministries]

Nothing has been deleted. I replied and am waiting for your reply.

[@JN-or1zr]

so for you repentance and obedience are separate and believers don't need to obey? ok then

[@eliyahministries]

I don't know how you got that out of watching this video. The thing that believers are supposed to be repenting from IS disobedience.

[@johnmal5975]

Maybe you can answer this. My Jewish friend asked why I needed a Messiah to forgive my sins aka Yeshua. When the OT says you are forgiven if you just repent he cited Ez 18 21 But if the wicked turns from all his sins that he has committed, and keeps all My statutes, and does that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live. He shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he has committed, they shall not be remembered against him. Because of his righteousness that he has done, he shall live. He also asked me why if Yeshua is a sin offering was he not burnt because sin offerings have to be burnt offerings. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

[@eliyahministries]

John Mal Ezekiel chapter 18 is very true for the time that Ezekiel was living. However, other prophets predicted that there would be a servant upon whom the "iniquity of us all" would be laid: Isaiah 53:6 - All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And Yahweh has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. Once this prophecy was fulfilled, it is necessary that we all recognize and believe in Him. He is the one who makes forgiveness of sin possible, because "the iniquity of us all" was laid on Him. Just as it is important for us to believe that Moshe was the one who enabled us to hear Yahweh's words in the Torah, it is important for us to believe that Yahushua is the one enabled us to be forgiven of our sins. There are a couple of videos you might want to watch (if you haven't already) on this topic at kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2GQhKVmfat8jLs

[@johnmal5975]

Thank You and Thank You again and again! I now know what I have to do. I must walk away thank you for the scripture from Hebrews! This is one of those people who believed and then did not. I kept arguing Isiah 52 and Zach 12-10 I could not understand how he buys into that being Israel but now I know. Thank you again!!! Shalom!

[@2717watt]

John Mal If I may add one thing to this question... I personally need Yeshua as the "light" to guide my steps into how and what is pleasing to our FATHER. For example: Moses said that we should not commit adultery. Many Rabbis give many different interpretations and understanding to many things in TORAH. Which is right? I say Yeshua the messiah is right!!! He said that even when I lust for another woman I have committed adultery already. Technically this shuts down any farther argument for polygamy >>IF

[@eliyahministries]

2717watt I agree with your sentiments regarding Yahushua being our only Rabbi. We are all brethren. His statements certainly have an impact on the Polygamy question, as the divorce/remarriage study at www.eliyah.com/family/divorceremarriage.html shows.

[@johnbottone1175]

Playing devils advocate - you emphasized repentance and faith connecting it to Rev 14:12 ...keep commandments and faith in Yashua moving on to read Acts 15:1-2, "unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved" saying that circumcision is not required for salvation. Isn't that contradictory? Emphasizing "repentance (tied to keeping commandments) and faith in Yashua. I can hear the grace only advocates screaming foul. What are your thoughts?

[@eliyahministries]

Repentance is always needed. Romans 2:4-10 - do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of Elohim leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of Elohim, 6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds": 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-- indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

[@nicoarnold2200]

How do you exegete that lawlessness includes the Torah laws? How do you come to that conclusion? You don't apply the word 'law' in proper context throughout your teaching.

[@eliyahministries]

Because the word "Torah" simply means "Law." It's a direct reference to the laws given through Moshe (Moses). The word traces back to the Greek word "Anomia." The strong's lexicon and other lexicons confirm it's referring to the Torah/Law.

[@nicoarnold2200]

@@eliyahministries True, Torah means law or instructions. But that does not mean that in a NT context you always have to substitute law with Torah - that would not be a fair assessment in my opinion.

[@eliyahministries]

Why not? It's just the Hebrew word commonly translated Nomos in Greek.

[@nicoarnold2200]

@@eliyahministries Anomos means to be without law, it does not mean without Torah.. that's my point.

[@eliyahministries]

Strong's Lexicon says it means "not subject to (the Jewish) law" Thayer's Lexicon says it means "destitute of (the Mosaic) law" The "a" part of "anomos" is just the negative particle of "nomos". The Septuagint (a 2200 year old translation of the Old Testament into Greek) has nomos for Torah 240 times. So it seems that both modern and ancient scholars would agree that it does mean "without Torah".

[@080566fm]

Don