Gale Calls Sorcerers Hard to Please - Alternate/DU Romance Scene (Gale Romance) - Baldur's Gate 3

Video from my DU playthrough. I was super suprised to see this scene trigger before the celebration with the Tieflings; I haven't seen this varient on YT yet. I also think it's pretty funny how he reacts to a sorcerer, a being whose powers come from the sheer force of their Cool Factor/Charisma stat. While this is a DU playthrough, I don't think the character being the DU changed this scene at all.

[@Mousseline711]

*The Weave connects you. The moment feels intimate.* Wyll right behind you both: 👁👄👁🍷

[@dracuella]

Ahahaha that wine glass x'D The man really does like his wine, doesn't he

[@MaryJane-bz5zq]

I'd indulge myself in tons of wine, every night also - if i'd see things Will did :O

[@Ace_011]

Don’t forget that Withers is just offscreen too

[@Ghost3210]

Wizard: practices what he learned Sorcerer: "Give me your scrolls and potions, nerd"

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I always loved the analogy of highschool clicks and arcane magic classes in dnd. Wizards are nerds, Sorcerers are jocks, and the Warlocks are the dudes selling drugs behind the bleachers. :p

[@brittanyanderson97]

@@KRIMZONMEKANISM I always thought Sorcerers were more the rich kid type because they were just born that way 😂

[@matiasenriquemaldonadoruiz5216]

​@@KRIMZONMEKANISMmakes a lot of sense, with mages having high INT and sorcerers high CHA lmao

[@artorhen]

@brittanyanderson97 i think wizards would make for the rich kid type considering that it takes being rich to be one. If anything, sorcery could be the only chance for some to ever use magic.

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

@@artorhen Canonically, that fits the Sorcerer's lore a bit more, because they have literal "Sorcerous Bloodlines". "Anyone can study some dingy old book and attain power, but to be a Sorcerer, one must be born with power!" - Sorcerer Snobs

[@RommyRayne]

I, too, was a Dark Urge sorcerer. I, too, sought intimacy. Alas, I pictured his severed head on a spike, and the mood was lost. He wished for a glimpse into my soul, but some sights are better left unseen. The night was cold and lonely.

[@snarkycommenthere9027]

I cut the tasty hand

[@yesman7777]

Gale: terrified Also Gale after he sees you fight: mmmm uhhh i think im into it 👁️🫦👁️

[@KALioness910]

I’m playing a Durge Sorcerer rn. Haven’t gotten here but I’m feeling very very sad about the pretty bard.

[@testedhawk]

I love how Gale's movements are slow, methodical, and show the signs that he's been practicing that for probably ages to get it right Then there's the Sorcerer who's clumsy, fast, unsure, but gets it right anyways by pure force

[@faerie_willow]

Wild magic sorcerer is so freaking fun, the dialogue is amazing

[@nyanbinary1717]

It’s both fun and frustrating. The number of times I’ve accidentally screwed myself by turning everyone into cats or setting important NPCs on fire, man.

[@lightpoint4426]

I turned Cazador into a cat. 10/10

[@AikoSea]

@@lightpoint4426Astarion approves

[@mbdelorenzo]

@@lightpoint4426Now he's more like Catador

[@hannahmeaker4595]

I'm playing wild magic with dark urge lol @@nyanbinary1717

[@8556126]

Hug. Normally in games with silent protagonists, the main character is just... There. I could positively feel awkwardness, amasemt and joy of Tav from her expressions and stance shifts. Top notch acting and design there.

[@yesman7777]

It definitely felt great but It feels so uncanny to me when Tav makes no grunting sounds when there is an important scene like in the end😂😂

[@grizzlyadamblack]

U serious? Tav makes the goofiest fn faces. Anytime someone yells he or she acts like they are about to be beaten like a 2 dollar whore.

[@Nicechimicha2]

I think main character facial reactions are better in the dragon age and mass effect games

[@Fuckyourselfgoogle]

i love that you can say 'magic is just not for me' as a literal SORCERER

[@coffeekat5066]

I mean, sorcerers don't choose to have magic. It's not unfeasible for them to dislike it haha

[@xXSakuraTearsXx]

I love the idea of a character who was just born with innate magic ability, but grew up & was taught against the use of magic. So, they spend their life trying to fight against it & hide it. You could multi-class & have an interesting journey toward acceptance. Saarebas, i.e. mages born under the Qun, in Dragon Age definitely come to mind.

[@Kasiarzynka]

​@@xXSakuraTearsXxmight be interesting to explore what happens when magic is being pushed down, too. Like in Harry Potter, kids just tend to start doing uncontrolled and unintended stuff (Harry certainly did with the glass that a snake was behind in a zoo, not sure if they included it in the movie), or in Fantastic Beast, there are obscurials, which are much darker.

[@bingonight1504]

​@@xXSakuraTearsXxthis is a cool roleplay reason to choose wild magic I think

[@inferno232]

I like the slight sneer after "I do hope you cherish that gift."

[@mrrey3481]

He says a similar line to the Cleric as well. It was fun to get this bit during the party, ngl

[@Gamerkat10]

Bro's just a little salty

[@MooseMannequin]

The most realistic thing in BG is that if you don't sleep, no one wants to have sex with you, even Lae'zel ditched me after the first time. Do long rests, healthcare approves

[@blackskullknight9062]

Got to love the Sorcerer and mage interaction.

[@grymmoire]

I thought wizards and sorcerers were both mages

[@SirDoots]

@@grymmoire Nah, basically a Wizard in D&D gains their magic through study and practice. A sorcerer is born with the gift to control magic without needing to train.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@grymmoire They are, I think the original commenter meant to say "sorcerer and wizard" interaction instead.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@SirDoots Wizards and sorcerers are still both mages, as in magic practitioners.

[@grymmoire]

@@SirDoots yes I know the differences between a sorcerer and a wizard, but I thought both were considered mages. So the original comment is a little confusing. Thanks!

[@victoriate672]

Bard had some relatively similar options in this cutscene too! My bard was like "this is cool and all, but really easy..." and Gale was like OAO

[@Kasiarzynka]

And he also responds with "you're hard to please, aren't you?" 😂. Like bro, I enjoyed the moment, ok, just saying I can also channel magic. I can pretend it was difficult, if you want. But I appreciate the thought.

[@sassyskeletonking]

The "I practice magic, not melodrama" option got me though!! Now I need to see what he replies (Would also make a great Panic! at the Disco song title)

[@frankieM_]

I was kinda surprised at how weird the animation was for a sorcerer doing the magic, considering they're so adept at using magic

[@mannysmith5397]

Well yeah but for Sorcerer it's instinctual rather than learned, so their movements are adequate, but not refined.

[@nemofish3504]

KNOCK IT OFF GALE YOU’RE ATTRACTING BUG lmao I love that option

[@Kurzykowsko]

omg gale babe what was that face with em teeth at the beginning

[@logiebear911]

showin dem teef

[@Jenna_Talia]

I'm enjoying just how many unique dialogue options there are for sorcerers. I imagine wizards are the same too. I've already encountered a few things where playing a sorcerer helped.

[@ByulStar1298]

I found playing bard the most entertaining just by how you can bullshit your way through dialogue with unique options lol

[@abbygaleforcewind]

Every class as a slew of them, some with plenty of ones based on the specific deity you have as well. It's neat.

[@CatroiOz]

​​@@abbygaleforcewindspeaking of deities they even went further : if you multiclass paladin/cleric you will unlock very unique "Paladin of [God]" lines that are different from paladin and cleric lines

[@faerie_willow]

​@@ByulStar1298wild magic sorcerer has been as fun as a bard so far, there's so many crazy dialogue options 😂

[@ByulStar1298]

@@faerie_willow really?? Omg I was already rolling that you can enter high city by basically saying you're one of Gortash's musicians and you're late 😭

[@florianchabaud8548]

"Picture his severed head on a spike" Let me guess, Dark Urge playthrough?

[@lupineleopard]

Pretty sure that's a regular playthrough option too, ngl

[@thewhitepikmin2327]

@@lupineleopard Yeah that one has been there since early access

[@AverageJohanson]

Sorcerer x Wizard I love the dynamic

[@ItsYaBoiV]

He comes across as condescending when you play a magic class, which I find hilarious

[@xilj4002]

Gale: You're not *educated* in magic, you just do stuff Also Gale: Haha, wild magic is so relatable actually, we both were wild children and can blow up any time, wanna smooch?

[@Kasiarzynka]

​@@xilj4002I'm not there yet as sorcerer so idk if it works out too, but in act 2, you can find a remainders of a ritual that creates the lanterns. There's a whole bit of dialogue where Gale's like "you could make a shadow lantern, such powerful magic, although Mystra would want it destroyed. When my wizard said she'd destroy it herself, he basically went "I hate to pull the rank (no he doesn't lmao) but I was once Mystra's chosen." My wizard's response "There is a reason you are her FORMER chosen though" And he gets salty and says to yeah go ahead whatever 🤣 I love this catastrophe of a man

[@theladycata9648]

I’m playing a warlock which makes it even funnier because he kind of has a point sometimes. Like, yes, Gale, I am not studied in magic so I’m probably not the best person to help with your orb problem. I might even admit I took the magical easy way out if you didn’t look so damn smug about it.

[@veganryori]

It activated my PhD PTSD so my Tav went with the pretty vampire man instead 💅 Gale, if you weren't so rude about Sorcerer Tav's magic YOU could have been the one keeping your bestie awake at night, not the other way around 🤣 🧛🧃

[@thesylphwind6816]

Love that it ends with him immedatly pulling out a book. Riiight time to research!

[@Isomeria450]

Huh? W-what am I to do in this situation? Damn, I know I saw it somewhere around page 394.

[@RedAngelXV]

It’s probably another young-adult romance novel, man needs practice.

[@thesilvercircle4582]

Fellow Gale enjoyers unite 🎉

[@yesman7777]

I love this man but my ending bugged out and he was the worst a hole I have ever met and it made me love/hate him more😂😂😂

[@DearValentina]

Gale simps will watch a video that literally starts with him astral projecting his ex as a romance scene with *you* and be like "wow he's so cool"

[@selty]

​@@DearValentina huh, funny that. It's almost as if he's written as a complicated, multi-layered character with faults and conflicts to unpack and resolve... for example, having a complex and toxic relationship with his deity who also happens to be his ex?

[@DearValentina]

@@selty Chill, I'm dissing him as a person, not as a character.

[@Lovely2291]

Goddammit Gale, hes so fucking romantic it kills me.

[@ketchumm9048]

Fine I’ll romance Gale again…but as a sorcerer

[@eenix0]

Hahahahaha so I love that for almost any other class, this is a cute scene of Gale sharing his magic with you. For sorcerers, it's just Gale mansplaining something they are better at than he is for several minutes. Amazing 😂😂😂

[@bibbitybooper6437]

Done this scene as wizard and bard too, they have some pretty good dialogue. Bard is all bragging, wizard is either just being an eager student, or very overconfident in your abilities depending on choice lol

[@Xylarxcode]

Come to think of it, it really must suck to be a wizard in this world. Everyone else gets their magic from a deity, a patron or it's just in their blood, but wizards have to study their ass off for years to get theirs and even then, it's limited. Imagine having to study in school for years, go to college and have to study for your tests every single night and then finally, when you graduate, you know just enough to be considered a certified member of the club, but you're still on the bottom rung. And then there's some dude who prayed to a god or made a deal with a devil and just gets to have everything you have, just because they prayed/made a deal. What took you years of study took them only a fraction of the time. Even worse when you meet someone who just has it because 'oh, it's just a natural talent of mine. You have to study hard to pass your test. I sleep in late, show up late to class and still do better than you on my test.' Ofcourse, the others also have downsides that wizards don't have. Someone who prays to a deity has to keep upholding the ideals of that deity, lest they lose their connection and their magic is severed. Those who make a deal with a patron often end up regretting it in the long run, because their patron wants something from them that they're not willing to give. And sorcerers, whose magic comes so naturally might look like they have it made, but it's actually burning them up on the inside and if they don't release it periodically, it will literally burst out of them. It demands to be used and released. A sorcerer is more like a ticking time bomb who HAS to unleash his magic from time to time, where as a wizard has complete control over hown when and how often they use theirs and need fear no deity or patron, with the exception of Mystra, but not pissing her off is usually as simple as not dabbling in magical arts that she has forbidden.

[@serronserron1320]

And yet many of the most powerful entities have been wizards.

[@Mastikator]

@@serronserron1320Wizards are the most powerful spellcasters. The best part is that anyone can be one if they put in the elbow grease.

[@Xylarxcode]

@@serronserron1320 That's probably because if your powers come from a deity and you're getting a bit too liberal with them or you're starting to show signs of extreme arrogance, they'll just strip you of your powers and then you're no better than a common fighter. Warlock patrons are almost always in control of their 'pets', from the very start and warlocks either don't live very long to begin with or they're desperately looking for ways to get out of their contract. And sorcerers are reckless and often live a life of danger, so they're not likely to live very long. But a wizard knows patience and perseverance. They can keep growing their personal spell library and expand their magical knowledge as much as they want and not have to worry about some deity or patron breathing down their neck or their magic trying to burn them up from the inside. Because a wizard has to study hard to get their powers, they know magic better than most other spell using mortals. It's only logical that this means they understand it on a deeper level than them and as we all know, knowledge is power. The more they learn, the more they grow in power. They can also afford to live in a city and slowly grow in power, unlike the others. It goes a lot slower, but that provides them more opportunity to iron out any mistakes and cover all their bases before they make their move to grab more power.

[@grimjudgment6527]

@@Xylarxcode And yet you have bards, which are not quite innate, not written, and rarely tap directly into the divine. 5E paladins and Bards have one thing in common, and it's the sheer power of personality and conviction that allows them to be so powerful. Sorcerers are powerful blasters, wizards are excellent at utility, and clerics are excellent at either crowd control or buffs. Bards say "I'll have a little bit of all of that." and then will combine spells from each magic type into the most overpowered combos in lore history without accidentally destroying the world, killing a god, or killing themselves Because after all, music ain't so nice if there's nobody to play to.

[@LyrictheFilthyCasual]

Bard dancing through the background: DOOT DOOT MAGIC FLUTE

[@Maethendias]

follow my lead" walks behind you alright, wizzards

[@bingonight1504]

That bubbly noise in the underdark background music drove me nuts. My brain wiped that part from memory. I wonder if thats how fish in fish tanks feel all the time

[@itrorev]

Im kinda jealous everyone else created these beautiful player characters, but mine ended up as this dopey looking mofo.

[@CatroiOz]

Maybe, but it's YOUR dopey looking mofo

[@RedAngelXV]

embrace the dope

[@Keely_OReally]

idk why but I laughed really hard at this

[@DMofBriseras]

omg I accidentally paused it at 0:14 - 0:15 and I can't stop laughing he looks so funny 🤣 what is that

[@TheRobotButler]

I also had this scene trigger for me before the grove party. Does that not normally happen? It's been weird cause Gale and I seemed to get super close very fast and then suddenly nothing as I continue to progress through the game. Meanwhile both Laz'eal and Karlach wanted to jump my bones out of no where. If there's one major complaint I have with the game it's the pacing of the romances.

[@alexcavazos3341]

I got them too before the goblin raid party, I think it depends on how far you are, not using rhe illithid powers semes to progress the game slow enough before reaching the goblin bridge to allow you to see these scenes before the party.

[@nathanieljefferies5491]

3:52 You get this dialogue as a fellow wizard too

[@StarrTheWitch]

I think I'm gonna play a Sorcerer romancing Gale but also taking every opportunity to sass him as i can get now 😂😂😂 And every sorcerer specific option I'm gonna travel that path speaking to him

[@SpaceAusten]

12/10 recommended. My favourite playthru is a Durge Wild Sorcerer romancing Gale. Act 1 is especially delightful.

[@wezul]

"You're hard to please, aren't you?" says the guy who wanted more power than Mystra's willing to grant any mortal. He was a lover to his own goddess and it wasn't enough for him. And WE are hard to please? SHEESH!!!

[@ThatsMforyou]

she groomed him she groomed him she groomed him she groomed him she groomed him she groomed him she groomed him

[@wezul]

@@ThatsMforyou You are correct, and it is creepy and gross. And also doesn't let Gale off the hook for reaching beyond his grasp.

[@IllegalMedications]

Pretty sure he expressed wanting to find a missing part of Mystra to complete her as an act of love?

[@wezul]

@@IllegalMedications After Mystra kicked him out for not taking "No, you can't be a god" for an answer. After he over-reached and she friend-zoned him, THEN he went searching for a "missing piece of Mystra" as a romantic move to win her back. Further into the story with the player (Act 3), he continues to reach for godhood via Karsus's crown. He remains obsessed with controlling power of (or over) the gods.

[@IllegalMedications]

@@wezul I find Gale is very occupied with wanting to be worthy, not with just explicit power. He wanted to be seen as worthy beside Mystra, and he fell hard from grace for it. He meets your party, and if you romance him, he says as much that he regrets it and knows he should've been content over scrabbling for someone's (Mystra's) approval. He isn't just some power hungry, greedy, out of control wizard. He's a guy with really deep seated self-worth issues, and even then, is NOT against stepping down and learning to accept himself as who he is should your PC talk to him and tell him he is enough. Not to mention he says plainly, too, that if he does harness a god's power, he would be able to help people with that strength where the gods are more than happy to idly sit by watching, doing nothing. He may be misguided, maybe even cocky for thinking he can handle that power, but his intentions, as it appears to me, have always been geared toward selflessness rather than selfishness.

[@hollyrue9001]

Cute!

[@swasloids]

I wish u could start ur campaign as one of those one day

[@TH3H3LLR41S3R]

its easy to forget. if a sorc doesnt get control of their power. theyll turn into demons or worse.

[@nathanieljefferies5491]

4:21 oh i guess they did not add the friendship option yet here. They should be a 6th option where you simply imagine sharing hearty meal with him

[@clairealexander140]

Sir sir! Absolutely not you get the hell back here and kiss me damn it

[@dramaticmes]

No matter if you’re also a wizard a sorcerer or a bard (and probably a warlock) he’ll say you’re hard to please lol

[@kadirr8974]

Sorcerer "Wizards are nerds."

[@way6719]

I think he says this to bards as well.

[@dealwithit9772]

You can't tell me he didn't do this to get some.

[@selty]

Considering how surprised he is at your character making moves I don't think he had any intentions outside of maybe finding an excuse to get close to his ex. The Rizzard thing is a bit of an act, he's kinda an awkward goose when it comes to genuine flirtation if you watch some of his later romance scenes

[@levi5436]

Is this a Dark Urge only scene? If not when is it supposed to trigger?

[@Liz-xq2wi]

It’s not! In most playthroughs I believe it triggers if you agree to meet with Gale after the party, though it can also trigger during a Long Rest if you’ve fed Gale his three magic items and become close to him.

[@chartreusemaiden604]

Your crush that doesn't stop bring up his Ex. And passively tells you how much better she is than you.

[@heartoffire5902]

That changes.

[@kombatfighterforever]

​@@heartoffire5902 when?

[@Liz-xq2wi]

@@kombatfighterforeverEnd of Act 2. He basically says his LI means more to him than himself and Mystra.

[@raweggwhite]

same's as a bard

[@mikemaguire151]

I kinda hope sorcerer lore gets a bit of a update or fix to make them more interesting i feel like "naturally talented" makes for very dull and un likeable characters most of the time you have wizards who spend there whole lives studying and working hard to be the best they can be sacrificing there lives to the weave while sorcerers are just naturally given everything with no work or draw backs other classes devote themselves to a god or oath giving them a strong background to build from a reason for there strength warlocks get into risky pacts with beings of imense power every class in dnd feels like they have some depth built into to help understand how much a character has worked or sacrificed for there power, so it just feels so dull and boring compared to everything else i hope sorcerers get some needed flavor in future editions

[@Jenna_Talia]

Lorewise I like to build sorcerers as having had a traumatic incident related to when their powers awoke, and subsequent bad memories due to extreme pressure being placed on them to use their powers effectively. Sorcerers will have access to the most potent magic out of all the classes, and it might cause wild surges of power or change their appearance irreversibly. Just like real life gifted kids, sorcerers will be playing on easy mode for the first part of their life but when the time comes, they'll hit a wall and burn out because they never did learn how to apply themselves and suddenly they have to. Whereas wizards will continue on in a gradual upwards curve, gaining more and more power. Most characters with access to magic in fiction are sorcerers who had it from birth. They're not boring, the idea of magic as a gift isn't the problem, it is literally just bad writing and a lack of imagination.

[@twentyeightstabwounds7761]

Just like in tabletop. While everyone works for their magic powers, sorcerers are just spoiled brats, lol

[@Akidagoat]

Sorcerers do have drawbacks they can't learn from scrolls like wizards who can learn literally any spells

[@Saga.Anderson]

@@Jenna_TaliaI did imagine exactly the same for my sorcerer and picked wild magic because of the trauma which leads to either the worst or the the funniest fights I ever saw.

[@Nobody-wx6rk]

Sorcerer lore is plenty interesting, Larian just didn't do a good job of representing them, in this scene at least. (Haven't done a Sorc playthrough yet) The fascinating part of Sorcs is HOW they got their natural magic. Their bloodline. You aren't necessarily always or *just* born with it. I hope other scenes have options related to that.

[@raidenpz]

I'm magical badass daredevil, he's a magical nerd.

[@RhadaGhast100]

Nah wizards are still cooler

[@ketchumm9048]

Fine I’ll romance Gale again…but as a sorcerer

[@ketchumm9048]

Fine I’ll romance Gale again…but as a sorcerer