STAR TREK: TNG, The Pegasus, S7x12, GALLIFREY GALS GET WARPED

[@Mr0tin]

Watching the Enterprise decloak in front of a Romulan warbird was such a badass moment back in the day.

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

The device on The Pegasus sounds a lot like the thing supposedly used in the Philadelphia Experiment, which attempted to make a U.S. naval vessel radar-invisible, but was said send the ship out of phase, and ended up with crew members merged into the superstructure of the ship. This is one of those old conspiracy theories, though there have been a couple of movies made about it.

[@Calzaki]

I'm gutted that when Pressman tried to take command we cut away before getting to see Worf's folded arm "bitch, please" pose

[@OldManFerdiad]

Anyone else here running an internal countdown to *that episode*?

[@darthken815]

Yes.

[@PrinceIMC]

Absolutely.

[@turkeypedal]

I would be if I could ever remember which one it is. I keep forgetting and thinking it will be the next one.

[@OldManFerdiad]

@@turkeypedal it's soon, surely? I've been thinking it's "next" for about the last four episodes lol

[@ThanatoselNyx]

I just love the banter between Picard and the Romulann commander.

[@MysteriousMose]

Preston: I'm taking control of the Enterprise! Literally everyone else on the Enterprise: The F*** you are.

[@legostargalactica]

As a pharmacist I appreciate the responsible medication talk. And as a Star Trek fan, I, as always, appreciate these videos.

[@antarfodoh]

We appreciate you taking us on this journey! ❤❤

[@ilthok]

What I love most about this episode is that it characterizes the Federation approach to tech compared to other species. There was a brief mention of the differences in how the Federation makes phaser guns and rifles. Overly complex in comparison to other groups, but a huge amount of variety and options. And so it is, the Federation manages to outdo cloaking technology that the Klingons and Romulans have had for a century or two.

[@firefly24601]

"Dad's got ya cornered!!" 😄

[@jokerz7936]

By the end of TNG Starfleet had rebuilt the fleet after it's devastation at Wolf 359. I have a theory it took Riker so many years to get a command due to the Pegasus incident becoming public knowledge.

[@Raja1938]

Except he'd been offered 3 commands before Wolf 359. He just wanted to wait out Picard to get the flagship.

[@jokerz7936]

@@Raja1938 The 3 commands were before Wolf 359 The Drake, the Aries, and the Melbourne and Wolf 359 there is a valid argument Starfleet was rebuilding and thus not many commands to hand out. But after TNG there were tons of new ships and he never got offered a command for over a decade I don't want to reveal too much more due to spoilers in case they want to do the TNG films. But in the films the idea of Riker holding out for the Enterprise's Captain's makes no sense given how they played out.

[@patsk8872]

@@jokerz7936 Troi was also on the Enterprise.

[@jonbolton3376]

There is an episode of ST: Voyager that he directs too, which i really like.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

"You know I can't let you do that... Good luck." ?

[@loggers1092]

I have somewhat of a soft spot for this episode, mostly due to Terry O'Quinn as Admiral Pressman. But that might just be the inner Lost fan in me. Also there's a particular element from this one that comes into play into DS9, but I won't spoil anything too much if you decide to watch it (*hint hint* you absolutely should 😉)

[@Skeezer66]

They've discussed that they're not watching DS9, not they're type of Trek, and personal taste reasons.

[@patsk8872]

@@Skeezer66 Actually they said they aren't watching it just to spite people

[@Skeezer66]

@@patsk8872 I didn't take that seriously. When Kat got so disturbed over the Klingon savior being cloned story, I knew she wouldn't like all the religion in DS9 concerning Sisko, and that's all the way through the show.

[@MalcolmWolf]

@@patsk8872 They actually said the constant demands and outright nastiness of some who wanted them to watch made them even less inclined to watch. Your attempt to twist that into just not watching out of spite is dishonest, to say the least.

[@patsk8872]

@@MalcolmWolf People don't say those things for no reason. I don't think it's the only reason, for sure. But whatever the reasons, it's definitely a shame if it never happens. I've been going through DS9 again myself. Not gonna say every episode is a winner. But to me it's the only thing on TNG's level and the high points are just peak Trek. Astonishingly good. Here's to hoping for the future.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I mean, if you want a big asteroid, Ceres, right here in our solar system, is roughly spherical with a diameter of about 900km (the Enterprise here being 641m long)

[@empirejeff]

Picard is really into telling the truth.

[@Calzaki]

He has a whole song about it after all

[@Calzaki]

If those fish in Picard ready room could talk they'd spill a lot of secrets

[@andylikesstuffchannel]

I'm so old I watched TNG when it came out in England on BBC 2 at 6pm Monday to Friday and DS9 then Voyager on a Sunday. Love your reactions ❤❤

[@Calzaki]

See I must be just a bit younger because I remember DS9 And Voyager coming on at 6:45 after a simpsons double bill. I remember they were aired on nights when I had visitation with my Dad and it actually got signed into the court documents that he could drop my sister and I back to my mums house later so I could watch full episodes of Star Trek rather than have to be home at 7pm

[@MikeJF85]

This episode has one of the best cold opens in the show.

[@MRxMADHATTER]

I think the treaty was first mentioned in some role playing games and some technical manuals. In DS9 they had to find a work around for the treaty for the USS Defiant which is equiped with a cloaking device om loan from the Romulans.

[@nathancline4000]

And it made sense, for that 2 part episode. Then, they promptly forgot to keep the Romulan around who was there to run the cloak and seure it.

[@ricohard1986]

and its from the Romulans not the Klingons because of the treaty.

[@ricohard1986]

Such a shame, would have been really interesting to have a Romulan character around and get to see under the hood as it were.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

They appear to have completely forgotten that the Enterprise D can split into two sections.😂

[@GallifreyGals]

Exactly!!!! 😂

[@patsk8872]

Out-of-universe, no one wants to watch saucer sep happen all the time. In-universe, how is it safer to have a warp-less saucer section floating around a Romulan warbird. Would it really be better for the famliies to be captured and undoubtedly tortured by the Romulans?

[@turkeypedal]

@@patsk8872 It would have been safer to drop the families off before the mission, before they got to the asteroids. In fact, I fanwank that they did that, but just the people, and kept the ship intact.

[@patsk8872]

@@turkeypedal It would be absolutely safer for no families at all to be on any Starfleet ship. Gene had some goofy ideas sometimes.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

@@patsk8872 firstly you eliminated leaving the the Stardrive section outside the asteroid & sending the saucer in. Secondly, both would likely have been fine. That's how politics plays out. It's like MAD.

[@PrinceIMC]

I remember when I first watched this episode in 1994 I had the same thought Kat did after they said it “materialized in solid rock”. I figured they had to be working on a whole ship transporter, a phasing cloak didn’t even occur to me.

[@Raja1938]

Same here, though in retrospect it should have since that was the tech used 2 seasons previously in the aptly titled "The Next Phase".

[@Tantalus010]

Love how the only Startfleet cloaking device to exist is far more advanced than Romulan or Klingon devices.

[@Skeezer66]

I don't think it's a coincidence that a black actor got to play a Romulan (I can't recall another time) and LeVar Burton being the director. I'd also give him credit for the passive/aggressive spin that character had. LeVar is a good director!

[@Lia-uf1ir]

7:46 I really wonder what the civilians, especially the children, tend to think or what they feel when the Enterprise gets into a situation like this. For us it's just one of the bridge crew's adventures but for the people actually living there, especially civilians, it's really stressful and uncertain.

[@4everhealthwellness344]

When it comes to cloaking technology, there is select exceptions to the treaty of Algernon. On Deep Space 9 the Defiant has a cloak that was given to them from a Klingon Bird of Prey courtesy of Gauron. Also, in the series finale "All Good Things" the modified Enterprise D that Riker used as his personal starship had a cloak. Also also, and hopefully I don't get in trouble for this, but when I was in the Navy, the aircraft carrier I was stationed on had a radar cloak. Yes, it was referred to as a "cloak" it didn't make us invisible but it made our ship not detectable on radar. I was a junior officer in navigation department while in my ship (which I shall not name) but we were all sworn to secrecy on the grounds that it was considered a top secret matter. But that was back in 1998 a very long time ago and I don't care if there is any ramifications of disclosing that. What exactly could the department of defense do to me now anyways

[@albertmartinez2539]

"Sometimes fanbases can be annoying." *looks at STO playerbase and the reaction to the Picard S3 finale*

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

And reactions to Picard season 2. And Picarda season 1. And Strange New World's. And Discovery. And ......

[@Gunnar001]

@@JeshuaSquirrel I mean, the vast majority of those new shows ARE poorly written dumb schlock made by people who literally said they were never big fans of Star Trek to begin with (and wanted to make a more Star Wars type show.) Of course fans who care are gonna react badly to it. “Yum yum” “Shut the fuck up” “I like science!!1!”

[@patsk8872]

@@JeshuaSquirrel So "annoying" = "caring about traditional canon and not wanting to see it wrecked by amateur writing and one-sided politics"

[@turkeypedal]

@@patsk8872 ​The first part sure. It's fine to care about the traditional canon, or to think the quality fo the writing has gone down. But the political argument doesn't work, as Star Trek has always been a progressive show. And complaining about that as if it is new to nuTrek makes it easy for people to dismiss other concerns. Also, it doesn't help that your username ends in 88 and you appear to be complaining that Trek is strongly anti-bigotry.

[@patsk8872]

@@turkeypedal I never even heard of this 88 nonsense until people started commenting on my username. It is supposed to be interpreted "Pat skates" and that's literally it. I'm not changing it just because some people fall so far short that literally 2 numbers are called bigotry. And there's a massive difference between legacy Trek where both sides of an argument were explored and presented, and "nu-trek" where this is not the case.

[@gluuuuue]

Another Top 5 ep. (An' Kat's theory an admiral appearing on the ship is never good news is still not being disproven! 😆) I had a suitemate in my first year of college who, though a TNG fan, was way on Pressman's side on this and believed the Treaty of Algeron, while a legal explanation in-world, was a mistake and thus justified covert research of cloaking tech and not adhering to. And I've since known a number of friends who also think this to varying degrees, and thus kinda hate the story explanation, and feeling like it's been too much of a straitjacket on the Federation.

[@ricohard1986]

The counter argument to that is that we never learn what the federation got out of that treaty. Given the prior 'we don't sneak around' answer. Well the federation gives up something that it wasn't going to be using all that much anyway for who knows what benefit. And the other argument is that the federation is a democracy so maybe it was just some part of a President's reelection campaign 80 years ago.

[@stevewilldo3056]

Only halfway through the reaction, but "We eat Admirals for breakfast here!" / "OM-NOM-NOM!" deserves all the love in the world, haha!

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

an interesting thing to note is that Riker was an ensign only 12 years ago. this means that, given each season is about a year, Riker went from ensign to first officer of the Enterprise in under 6 years. now this could be just that he is insanely good... or maybe Pressman was helping him out a bit to keep his silence? just something i think adds another layer to this episode

[@oldsouplegs7384]

I'm on day 3 of a medication change from sertraline to cataylapram... probably misspelled that... so far it's going well and the insomnia has gone... just feeling a bit foggy... need my trek fix

[@dustinherk8124]

almost there. so close to "the episode" the one that haunts TNG too this day.

[@andyenglish4303]

We should follow Beverly's example and fuck that which haunts us.

[@ianburns1167]

There are a few The Episodes coming up. I still think they're over-bemoaned

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

"Do not light up that telly, lassie! It'll bring the ghost!"

[@hemmojito]

Joe Morton is another actor who can tread on this line between trustworthy and devious. Totally love that. Anybody watched Eureka?

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

I took my meds this morning, saw I had two doses left, went to the shops, forgot to refill even after checking to make sure I had my script with me. Last time I actually ran out and had to go without for a day. That was a long day.

[@Calzaki]

I'm not sure if it's the case now but Levar Burton was president of the directors guild of America

[@Rick-Rarick]

I love this episode!

[@dsimon966]

Paula’s chewing at 00:12:16 made Picard sound like a Stormtrooper walking into the brig. Nice crossover.

[@briannichols4807]

In the TV series' , your right , Admirals do come off as being corrupt . However , the one exception I can think of is the first few Star Trek movies , Kirk had been promoted to Admiral and didn't let it go to his head , even defied orders in the third movie , which caused him to be demoted back to Captain at the end of the fourth movie .

[@chrisbullard5901]

You know how easy it would be for Riker to simply vaporize Pressman while aboard the Pegasus, and make up any story he wanted?

[@OldManFerdiad]

Hell, I reckon he could have phasered him into oblivion and told Picard the truth and got a "good job, Number One" ;-)

[@chrismanuel6659]

Amazing young ladies. I enjoy your star trek reactions

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

Commenting again that you two should really watch all 10 movies in order, you've both watched enough TOS to understand and enjoy everything.

[@mconnaghan]

Another quality winged cat video!

[@johnpalacios9392]

I would love if Star Trek did a Romulan show. The passive aggressive dialogue, the back stabbing, it would be glorious.

[@Raja1938]

Personally, I think the lack of cloaking tech as a disadvantage is wildly overstated for a couple reasons: 1) Cloaks are only operable at sub-light speeds, as they can't mask the subspace fields generated by ships traveling at warp. With notable exceptions, ships also can't fire weapons while cloaked. 2) Various episodes in the Trek franchise indicate that cloaks can be overcome with improvements in sensor technology, so the Romulans are constantly having to update their cloaks to stay ahead.

[@Calzaki]

And the alliance with the Klingon's may include provisions not for cloaking tech but for updates on how to counter cloaking tech

[@ZipplyZane]

I'm pretty sure those limitations had been overcome. I know they can fire while cloaked.

[@patsk8872]

In the DS9 era the canon was that cloaks were certainly usable at warp, however high enough warp would render them less effective. Certain powers also had certain anti-cloak tech. But hopefully they will someday watch DS9 so let's not spoil everything eh?

[@Raja1938]

@@ZipplyZane Only time we saw that was in Undiscovered Country. Even in that case, modifying sensor technology on a torpedo thwarted it.

[@MrHojo1675]

Regardless of what has become canon through lazy writing or whatever else, I find it hard to believe that the federation would not pursue cloaking technology to keep up with the Romulans, Klingons, etc...I'm sure the federation's secret organization (DS9 fans know what I'm talking about) have developed this technology...I hope Admiral Pressman was found not guilty and became a part of that secret organization...he would've been a valuable asset and I trust that he would've always had the federation's best interests in mind....that's who I want on that wall...

[@mab-qe5wh]

This episode reminds me of The Philadelphia Experiment Conspiracy that the US Navy did during World War II... Look it up.

[@sdfried4877]

There was a very good film made about it in 1984 with Michael Pare, less than 10 years before this episode. Cranking out an average of 30 episodes per season, the TNG writers were beating the bushes pretty hard for story material.

[@cypher515]

Insane admirals and self-serving admirals are so prevalent that they eventually get, maybe, ONE recurring admiral or two in the series. I'll reply to myself with the names though please avoid the response if you're going to watch either of the other two series, it's kind of a giveaway. But anyway it's so prevalent that you're almost waiting for them to go bad!

[@cypher515]

The names are... Ross, and Paris.

[@nathancline4000]

@@cypher515 Eventually we also get Janeway.)

[@Calzaki]

A sus admiral, that's something we haven't seen in a while...

[@alif8884]

I hope you will watch the TNG movies at the end of the series. They’re well worth watching imo.

[@po5283]

The worst thing when it comes to CEO wages, perks and compensation, is there is an incredibly simple solution to the problem. Cap the percentage difference between lowest paid and highest paid employees, using different percentage caps, based on the size of the company and the number of employees. it's absolute insanity for any of these executives to be making over a 1000x more than their lowest paid employees and it's even more insane that it's legal!

[@nathancline4000]

I haven't seen anybody comment on it yet, but this episode has very specific and strong ties to one of the most hated Episodes in All of Star Trek. from The Series Star Trek: Enterprise. Those who know, know I actually enjoy the episode, it just would have been better at a different point in time,, and different ending.

[@Lia-uf1ir]

When the Enterprise uses the cloak, how can the people materialize through the rock? They aren't hooked to the cloak, only the material of the ship is.

[@stephenindc9102]

Fun conversation.

[@weray7605]

The problem I’ve always had with this episode is that ‘Starfleet’ is the Antagonist. It’s something that pops up from time to time in ‘The Next Generation’ and every time it does, I don’t like it. Our Gallifrey Gals have talked about it often, blaming Starfleet Admirals for the bad writing/design of the creators and producers. I just don’t believe for a second that the idealized officers the likes of Picard and Riker, Crusher and LaForge, (practically Utopian) would become Admirals who are such villainous characters. It is bad writing! It is bad design! …. I don’t have a problem with creating an ‘occasional’ Captain Maxwell antagonist (who murders Cardasians secretly building a treaty-violating base close to three Federation Sectors), nor an occasional Admiral Kennelly antagonist (who gets tricked by Cardasians into believing that Bajoran terrorists - Orta - have attacked a Federation outpost). But I have a real problem with how often it seems to have happened in the series. And, more importantly, I feel that for every Cpt Maxwell and Admiral Kennelly - and Admiral Pressman - there must then be triple the number of idealized, ‘good-guy’ Admirals in Starfleet. Starfleet Should NOT Be the Antagonist! It defeats the whole concept of Star Trek! …. Um, so yeah, I never liked this episode. (But I’m still glad to watch it again with The Gallifrey Gals!)

[@cleekmaker00]

"The Bureaucratic Mentality is the only Constant in the Universe".

[@MashupsByMandy]

It is not bad writing, it is how real military institutions work. General MacArthur was a very accomplished and respected military officer who wanted to nuke the korean\china border in the 1950s to prevent communist forces from ever threatening south korea again. He was so popular in Japan that they treated him like a hero. From the perspective of the japanese he was a caring leader, from the perspective of american politicians he was trying to get his way into presidential office, from the perspective of the south koreans he was a helping hand, from the perspective of the north koreans he was a capitalist devil and from the perspective of the chinese he could have been death incarnate as he also supported using nuclear weapons and a full scale american invasion of China to prevent the rise of communism there. In current american history General MacArthur is seen as one of the heroes of the WW2 pacific war (who had some "problematic" ideas). Positions of power attract idealists with determination like Picard but also utilitarian authoritarians who use the argument of existencial risk and future\imminent emergencies to develop tools and weapons of war in secret. The fact that in Star Trek most people are satisfied with having their needs met by replicators and free clean energy doesn't mean everyone is satisfied with a peaceful normal life, some people only get satisfied with having political\economical\social control and those people will still exist for basically forever. DS9 is far more realistic than TNG regarding how military institutions work including Section 31, but portraying Starfleet as one of the problems in their world is not wrong at all.

[@Raja1938]

Sure there's triple (or more) idealized, good-guy admirals but they wouldn't play significant roles in episodes unless they were in conflict with the main characters. Good guy admirals play minor, innocuous roles when things are happening as they should in a story.

[@weray7605]

@@MashupsByMandy I appreciate the argument; I just disagree. Star Trek is designed to be ideal -- perhaps even Utopian. Whether it's Kirk telling his helmsman to keep his bigotry to himself regarding Spock's alien blood, or when it's Picard arguing in court for the 'human' rights of an android in "Measure of a Man." The entire point of Star Trek, the whole kit-and-kaboodle as far as I'm concerned, is that mankind has finally gotten to a point where we have surpassed our real-life prejudices. I for one LOVE Roddenberry's childlike, naïve reason for why Starfleet doesn't use cloaking devices! When Troi tells Mark Twain what humanity has achieved by outgrowing Cuban cigars and opening doors for ladies, THAT is my favorite moment in all of Star Trek. (And admittedly, perhaps one of the big reasons I'm not the biggest DS9 fan is the greater sense of realism.) Of course you're correct: human ambition and greed, the bureaucratic mentality, utilitarian authoritarians, etc., all exist in reality. But for me, I love Star Trek Because it's Utopian. Because it's idealized. Again, I don't have a problem with the occasional Cpt Maxwell or Adm Kennelly or even Adm Pressman, necessarily. I just think that it is bad design, or rather, "Contrary" design to Roddenberry's vision. That's me. YMMV. (But you'll never convince me that "I made you, and I can break you, young man," or whatever dumb things Pressman tells Riker on their away-team visit to The Pegasus isn't bad writing. It's pretty bad.)

[@MashupsByMandy]

@@weray7605 A world\universe like that is not remotely engaging narrative wise. But if it is meant to be utopian then making the aliens the problems and the issues we deal with is quite a disrespectful view of the cosmos and other species. If everything is heaven then everything is heaven for everybody, if we are perfect but the aliens are not that is just human supremacy in another light, if we are all flawed but achieve greatness through all kinds of hardship then that is fair with everyone involved, and then we can actually engage with the story. What you love in Star Trek can't be realized if we can't empathize with the heroes, people who don't have enough to eat have no reason to care that James T Kirk had a malfunction in his space laser while he was distracted with a babe. Which to me is why Sisko is one of the best leaders and heroes of Star Trek. Idealists are good but without people getting their hands dirty in hard labor nothing goes forward. It is cool to like something because it is different, but it is hard to make it more than curiosity without characters that share our trials on this earth and come out on top in a more realistic manner. Those are the heroes that actually give us guidance. I don't like roddenberry's vision at all because in my opinion it is as childish and immature as it gets for sci fi, it is also full of cheap human collectivism where we are all good and honorable and the aliens are the issue most of the time. It would fit as romanticized propaganda like Cardassia would make about themselves. I get the humans united message and I think it is good but it does not require pushing our defects as people into alien races we confront in space. Plus without starfleet being part of the problem you have blind loyalty to a military institution being shown on TV and that is a dangerous message. Another point is that Gene must have been paranoid of transhumanism for some reason to invent the eugenic wars. Picard having an artificial heart was a good advancement towards the fanbase accepting transhumanism. I am not saying genetic engineering is gonna only give us glory on this earth tomorrow but just the idea of kids in a few generations not having to need asthma inhalers and women with genetic conditions being able to gestate kids who will grow healthy due to those genetic diseases being deleted from their DNA and in the process preventing malformation of limbs, organs, bones and\or the brain is a marvel of human ingenuity. A lot of people would just be happy not having to take pills or injections everyday to be able to live a somewhat normal life. As for the dialogue in the episode and the pressman character, it is just cliched talk writers make for military men, it was 1993. First season of DS9 had some clunkers far worse than season 7 of TNG. Voyager was the thing that freed DS9 to be grounded, as Voyager was the golden child and DS9 was the black sheep.

[@jonathanross149]

Your moral choices change overtime.

[@davidschaufus7856]

med check got me to take mine lol

[@d.-_-.b]

As a junkfood addict I appreciate the inability to stop eating Twisties™

[@throughmyeyes8568]

Took mine

[@Splurr]

Se you out There! 🖖14

[@shadout]

The treaty explanation isn't that good either. Why would the Federation agree to limit its use of a tactical edge that its adversaries actively use? I can understand wanting to produce an explanation to stop the questions, but for me I would have preferred it didn't have an explicit explanation. That said, this story was a good exploration of the ethics of going along with orders you know to be wrong.

[@xenocore01]

Actually, I think there are only 2 good admirals in TNG. admirals Nechayev and Okuda from the klingon sensor net during the Klingon succession. Am I right?

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

Admiral Hanson in the best of both worlds two parter was probably the best one! The episode in season with kelar (worf's mate) had a lady admiral that was by the book but at the same time was understanding of not being able to tell the whole mission.

[@Raja1938]

Not to mention Fleet Admiral Shanthi, mentioned in this episode and appeared in "Redemption" pt 2.

[@Calzaki]

Nechayev really? I mean I'll give her a pass on smacking Picard down about Hugh after the fact. That's Federation security and the Borg. But after her involvement in what's to come in the rest of season 7, It's never spelled out how involved she is in the Cardassian treaty itself but her actions after that directly resulted in the issues which led to the Maquis and over on DS9 she was used as douche "Admiral who sells out our best interests" even if it was a simulation.

[@J4ME5_]

Smitten

[@na2089]

So when you are done we the series can you watch the moives and then Picard? And or Voyager?

[@MalcolmWolf]

The current plan is to watch a few movies and then decide from there.

[@RetrofanFilms]

They have gone back to TOS in between each season of TNG that they react to. My guess is when they wrap up this season of TNG, they’ll do two episodes of TOS as voted on by their fans on Patreon. From there, I believe they will go into the movies; starting with either the Director’s Edition of TMP or with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

[@MalcolmWolf]

@@RetrofanFilms The movies will be the ones spun out of Next Generation.

[@Raja1938]

@@RetrofanFilms Seeing how much they trashed Space Seed, won't hold my breath on them ever reacting to WOK.

[@magicalmrwest]

Just out of curiosity, which of your mics was picking up the anguished howls of the damned?

[@explodingplant2]

Watching a ro mulan be passive aggressive is watching a romulan live their best life

[@sdfried4877]

By far the most condescendingly courteous Romulan ever put on screen, but Picard gives it right back.

[@aaronstone8147]

Eating crunchy snacks while mic's are up?

[@garypeterson5960]

😮SECTION 31😮??

[@schmidmarcel1001]

DS9?😄

[@desmondgriffin8479]

Admiral Pressman is not insane. He's right.

[@patsk8872]

I hope we can agree, at least, that it was nice when episodes were created where both sides of an argument were presented coherently, had justifications, and the audience could draw its own conclusion.

[@rafetizer]

Cute buns Paula

[@ReallyGoodName3000]

Riker needs to learn that happens in Space Communism, stays in Space Communism. He is, as always, a continual disappointment.

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

I think this idea of a treaty is really silly. If there is a ban on developing cloaking, it should be universal for both sides. It'd be like if the US had a treaty with Russia where one side wasn't allowed to develope nukes, but the other side is allowed to use them against others whenever they feel like it.

[@ianburns1167]

Not really - cloaking tech isn't a war-winning technology by itself, especially since it's obvious that there's a constant arms race between cloaking and sensor tech. And we don't know what the Romulans gave up for that concession. Federation negotiators aren't fools.

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

@@ianburns1167 until we know there was a concession in the other direction, there isn't one. Whether it's war winning on its own or not doesn't matter. You can't bar one side of a conflict from developing a type of tech, while you use that same tech against them in every confrontation.

[@ianburns1167]

@@francisbartoszewski2284 It seems just silly to me to assume they just gave up something without concessions on the other side. As to whether that was a good decision - well, the Romulans never felt confident openly invading did they.

[@EmbassyNerdcore]

Isn't that exactly the treaty the US has with Iran?

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

@@EmbassyNerdcore no, this would be the treaty the US has with Iran, except if the US at the same time used a nuke on Iran every time they engaged.

[@PrinceIMC]

I know you guys aren’t interested in doing Deep Space 9 or all of the TNG movies but it could be fun to do Picard which just ended. Though I do think all four TNG movies are kinda necessary to go through to Picard.

[@MalcolmWolf]

It might be a good idea for them to see Voyager before Picard.

[@PrinceIMC]

@@MalcolmWolf I just think that’s a big ask. There is enough explanation in Picard they don’t need to watch another 172 episodes to understand Picard.

[@MalcolmWolf]

@@PrinceIMC Fair point.

[@PradoxGamerAu]

I really like this episode a lot but it reminds me (And I'm sure a lot of others) of one of the worst episodes ever made of a different show

[@scgreek1114]

I think there might be something wrong with the audio. I kept hearing this constant crunching in the background. 😁

[@kenmercer8112]

good

[@savagehenry-ng2jr]

first, lol luv stuff

[@Calzaki]

If the "where f**k did this rule come from? " is something that bugs you then you'll want to switch your brain off completely before starting Voyager, there they have a different excuse for doing or not being g able to do something almost every week just because and when they do give a reason it usually gets contradicted or they do the exact opposite sometimes in the very next episode 😅

[@kweicee]

First?

[@FallenHellscape]

I’m more than certain that if I were to create a channel, I wouldn’t crunch food into the microphone. And you there on the right…. I’m no prude…. but every third word out of your mouth is the F word. In every video of yours that I’ve seen. I no longer subscribe, but every now and then you 2 turn up in my search results… and every time, I figure I’d give you another shot. Nah. No more. Not that you’ll mourn losing me. My 2 cents.

[@VonLigenstein]

Well this was a big disappointment.... I wantewd to see your reaction to Captain Picard day, but you chopped that whole section out...

[@GallifreyGals]

Unfortunately our TNG reactions got hit by the blocking bots quite a bit and we had to cut so much from a few episodes. Believe me, I know it's super disappointing 😕