GAME-CHANGING Lead System! | Pole Position Central Shocker Grippa System

The Central Shocker System from Pole Position might just be the most versatile inline lead system on the market. Its unique, innovative insert connects perfectly with the lead and makes sure that the rig is connected with the ‘true’ centre of the lead. Here's what CARPology's Joe Wooltorton made of it...
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[@theblobfish9614]

This is something that definitely targets the anglers more than the fish

[@carper1993]

Why? Seems way safer than a standard inline/lead clip system.

[@theblobfish9614]

I dont think so. With an inline lead the carp also just has to pull a swivel out of a rubber tube

[@carper1993]

​@@theblobfish9614 In the event of a snap off with a conventional inline lead the fish will be left trailing the leader and the mainline. With this system the fish is only left with the hooklength like what would happen with a chod or helicopter. I think if this system was brought out by Korda (I think it's patented so they can't) people would be going crazy for it.

[@theblobfish9614]

​@@carper1993 okay yeah i can see that, been a while since i watched this video originally. I still dont see paying 8 bucks for a lead. I pay one. And also: when i learned to fish we used to have a leader that was lighter than the mainline, whats happened to that in carpfishing?

[@eddyer2353]

Can see the pectoral fin getting caught in the doubled over section, not being a hater just a valid point, keep it simple and safe

[@leesagar8651]

I'm a massive fan of inlines, semi fixed rigs and the COG system and this ticks all my boxes on what I want in a rig. I'll be getting a couple for sure albeit begrudgingly because of the price tag.

[@louislunterbusch5571]

Very innovative lead system, only PB comes close with a similar concept. Much saver than most other companies leads. In case of a break off the carp is only left with the hooklink instead of trailing some length of leader/mainline.

[@PolePositionTackle]

Thanks!

[@colinsillis8008]

These have been out years and I'm with the guy below 😊

[@stephenmanuel4815]

Just been on their website… “from £7.99”, however including postage to the UK for ONE 5oz version (not that I want one this heavy, but they appear to have very limited stock) is £16.98!! Free postage starts at £40…I think I’ll make do with what I have.

[@jason88580]

8 quid! i paid a tenner for 5,3oz pebbles now that's a game changer

[@TheDrago1882]

This definitely catches as many fish as the “Magic Twig” 😂

[@DunkinBiscuits]

Well the mgic twig does actually work to catch you more, it was jus a massive flop due to unsafe design mainly but it did catch.This is in no way comparable to the twig, it doesn't have any known safety issues. Both will actually help you catch more though so im not really sure what your attempt at a joke means.

[@raw0302]

Watch more underwater films mate then you will know better

[@CarpFish1]

It catches more then the magic twig as the twig is banned lol

[@theyorkshireguy1985]

A single piece of sweetcorn is all you need , none of this over complicated rigs

[@Sasssm8]

A “game changer” that’s pretty much already been done

[@whiffyg]

Can i it be used in conjunction with the twig? Them 2 coupled up with my nash baiting pole (complete with 100 sections) carp wont stand a chance

[@andrewblankley8115]

so the side the line doubles up creates a loop in the line that could potentially get snagged?

[@lazycarper]

they are blocking comments saying that its over priced!!!!!

[@peterlunn2076]

Have these been tested on the rivers for barbel etc ? 🎣

[@garethholdcroft4130]

Would the system still work if you were using a PVA mesh bag/stick or would the weight of the PVA mesh bag/stick pull the swivel out when casting?

[@garethholdcroft4130]

@@DanBoy1976 what? I barely comment on anything. You got me mixed up with someone else?

[@honestloz]

you got the wrong bloke dude!! you should check your facts before slagging everyone off!! 😈@@DanBoy1976

[@AndyNuberg]

You can also use an inline lead with a removable insert. Put a swivel or quick change clip in the lead, works almost the same and is also fish friendly

[@carper1993]

Not that same, if you snap off with the setup you've described the fish is left trailing mainline and the leader. With this system it's just left with the hook length.

[@AndyNuberg]

@@carper1993 you cannot say it snaps of at the rig, it can snap of above the leader as well ;)

[@carper1993]

​​@@AndyNubergyes if it snaps above the leader the fish will still be able to shed the leader and will only be trailing a hooklength. Look closely at how it's set up it's a completely different principle to the rig you've described. In your example the fish will be trailing everything. In this setup it's just left with the hooklength like a helicopter rig.

[@andrewbrown7886]

Would be nice to know if the leader is lead free or not, as my club lake has a lead core ban.

[@raw0302]

Its lead free mate

[@PolePositionTackle]

Yes it is ;)

[@neilingle1168]

Would this work in a PVA bag??

[@martinnash9900]

Keep it simple and safe

[@Newlyretired]

A lot of money. I wonder what a blob of silkweed would do to the safety element of the leader feeding through the housing?

[@PolePositionTackle]

You must always take the circumstances into account. The system continues to function sufficiently to remain fish-safe 😀

[@weeeeee374]

Appriciate new idea's ect...but if it's over designed, it's just costly. A lead is cheap because it's simple. It's not like we are all blanking with normal leads, wondering if it's the lead lol.

[@PolePositionTackle]

Its leadfree material

[@weeeeee374]

@PolePositionTackle that's the only bit that's a bit crap with leads tbh. I like the idea of drilling stones, but I'm too dumb to be messing about with drills n that 😆 Luckily I don't fish waters choked with weed and snags too often, so I don't dump leads per fish ect. Soon we will be looking for gravel and landing on someone else's lead like "that's a spot" lol

[@leecarpin]

8 quid that's a hard pass from me

[@gicechicken7062]

Safety first

[@leecarpin]

@gicechicken7062 i never said anything about safety. these look fantasic and safe and to be honest it they was say 5quid I would have had a couple to try pal

[@paulAnthony7236]

​@@gicechicken7062Anyone with common sense fishes safe so your comment is ?

[@paulAnthony7236]

Similar to another company.

[@ianbaxter9836]

Or just use a standard method feeder?

[@matthewrodwell4579]

What venue is this?

[@christhornton8718]

If the lead lands upside down on the lake bed after the cast then the cog aspect can't operate, can it?

[@whiffyg]

Due to the parachute affect of the trailing nature of the hooklink and bait it will allways ensure the lead lands the correct way

[@syms85]

Is it lead free leader?

[@JackJones-fd8ny]

I don't think you can slide the lead off and keep it all set up on your rod? have to pack it all away each time?

[@PolePositionTackle]

You actually can! No more bumps against the rod;)

[@simonashmead3162]

Can this be fished with out leadcore ? As my syndicate has a leadcore ban

[@PolePositionTackle]

Ofcourse. The ActionPacks are ready to go with our lead-free 'Drop Down' leader material 😀

[@simonashmead3162]

@@PolePositionTackle on the syndicate I fish we are not allowed any leaders or leadcore only rig tubing

[@PolePositionTackle]

You can also fish it straight on you Fluorocarbon for example! Remove the Dropdown Leader and attach it by yourself. So you dont need any leader material for this...😀@@simonashmead3162

[@astringtheory6581]

Is this just a center of gravity system that korda already has

[@PolePositionTackle]

but save

[@krycek1976]

Mmm interesting idea…. How much! 😮

[@cmoffett75]

Seems like a cut off of pb products hit and run inline system bar the centre of the weight rig exit...

[@dolarharris2206]

Can it be used in pva bags?

[@carpyyy1284]

You don't need to

[@thecowboycarper]

I like it 👍

[@wendyd.5594]

There's always one

[@thecowboycarper]

@@wendyd.5594 yes you are correct… there is always one Wendy 😮‍💨

[@Honestcarper]

Game changer 🙄😏😂

[@peternufc1981]

Game changer 😂

[@florinbarbu1897]

What rod use in this film?

[@DanDan-lq3ht]

Nash dwarf cork 9ft

[@LeeHadley]

Isn’t it like a hybrid cog system that Korda did?

[@Matt-nd2cu]

That’s what I thought

[@jamescampbell8780]

it's different because of the fact that the fish doesn't swim around with the mainline aftere a line break! only the rig therefor it's much saver for the fish!!!!!

[@Itwasntalieitwastrueinmymind]

Rubbish the lot of it

[@LeeHadley]

Still will be swimming around with leadcore so exactly the same as the COG 😂

[@PolePositionTackle]

Absolutly not🙃.. He explains it in the video......@@LeeHadley

[@IntrinsicPalomides]

Looks like a cool system and the price is fine imo. Just think about how much you spend on say going out for a meal, after that it just comes out as waste. With products like this you can use them more than once! i dare anyone to show they can eat their food again after it comes out the other end :D

[@duggpinner3717]

Yeah, just think how much a house costs. This is cheap!! 😂

[@IntrinsicPalomides]

@@duggpinner3717 lol :D

[@justinford8996]

What the fuck you on about. It's very pricey for the average angler. Good price tag for the new RK Leisure breed of drug dealer angler.

[@Mattp36fishing]

Wtf. Why bother eating at all. Just think of all the money you will save that you can then spend on garbage such as this

[@IntrinsicPalomides]

@@justinford8996It's not like you are dropping the lead each time, bet you and many others on a good weekend will drop £10 on leads. And if they are fishing many of the RK waters, this isn't for them anyways as they would be dropping leads. Which when you are spending over 2k on a RK ticket is nothing...and i agree prices are ridiculous at many places now. I fear for the price increase at Woolpack now it's under new ownership. This is targeted at the average angler who will keep their leads and fishes day tickets/runs waters. And if a day ticket this item is probably cheaper than 1 day of fishing, or a KG of bait from a good supplier. If we want to talk about ludicrously expensive items, we should talk about high end bite alarms where for about £10 of electronics and plastic you are paying ~ £250 each.

[@michaelross749]

All this is is a different variation on the cog lead korda brought out a few years back but for me I know you get the complete kit the price is still a little steep especially when we're in the middle of a credit crunch or whatever you call it I know 1 person who can spend £8 on food for a few days rather than waste it on 1 lead setup system no thanks from me

[@Jonderski]

nice I like it

[@i.m1981]

So a cog lead from korda then

[@PolePositionTackle]

But Fish Safe;)

[@thecowboycarper]

The korda cog is a semi fixed lead on a lead clip…. So no not a cog lead

[@seansw3043]

I've lost end tackle in over hanging trees due to miss judgement or wind. That would cost me, conservatively, £16.00 per session on a typical day, I'll give it a miss and spend my money on casting tutors and common sense.

[@kornrocksrj]

That's my edge gone ffs.

[@leem25]

Why? Where has it gone all of a sudden? Will the fish know and stay away....

[@dermotcolgan]

How is it a Game Changer? Korda COG did exactly this several years ago !

[@thecowboycarper]

Korda cog isnt a running lead system

[@dermotcolgan]

@@thecowboycarper Korda COG can be fished fixed or running kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJ-ndZRvm9CUbNk

[@thecowboycarper]

@@dermotcolgan i totally get that, when you dont put the stupid little peg in, but it still a lead with a hole in that is on a lead clip. The only comparison is that it lifts from the centre mass of the lead. Pole Positions is a machined inline lead with a nice little system that works very well. The cog doesnt work very well. If you use both you will see, that they are nothing alike and will notice that there is nothing like it on the market.

[@dermotcolgan]

@@thecowboycarper I wasn't particularly commenting on the product itself, just the term "GAME-CHANGING", I don't believe it is.

[@thecowboycarper]

@@dermotcolgan fair comment, but if you take into account how good running rigs are with catch rates (as in harder to shake off) and the science behind the centre of the weight pull mass. Then as inline running sytems go, then this is a bit of a game changer. Its not a game changer as in your going to catch more fish, then no your right 😂

[@herefishy182]

Basically PB products hit n run system 😅

[@carper1993]

It's the same person behind this that created the PB one.

[@jayb8179]

Bait the key not rigs not the nuw tackle

[@turkeyboy28]

When I first went to France I used to fish semi running rig. Lost the first 2. Changed back to a normal lead clip and landed the next 10. I'll stick with a fixed set up.

[@CarpFish1]

So basically it’s the cog system just changed the weight and the style

[@thecowboycarper]

No!!! The cog system is a semi fixed lead on a lead clip, this is a running lead???

[@CarpFish1]

@@thecowboycarper but its basically the cog system just a different way to set it up and the old cog system is free running as well

[@thecowboycarper]

@@CarpFish1 the cog is only free running if you dont put the peg in the lead clip, so its still a lead clip system thats crap in weed. I do get what your saying, but its still an inline lead working as a 100% running rig. So the only comparison is that it pulls from the centre of the lead.

[@PolePositionTackle]

it doesn't look like it at all.....@@CarpFish1

[@briansheppard7359]

System has been out years a lot cheaper too so il pass

[@duggpinner3717]

Crazy price 😂

[@Ste_O_D]

I can garantee all these muppets moaning about the price and comparing it to korda's lead were doing the same when the cog came out. Crying that its nothing new! Neither are your boring useless comments

[@thecowboycarper]

👏 👏 👏

[@daveNewk]

8 quid ffs you really don't need this shit to catch carp you just dont it doesn't matter what lake you are on carp fishing today makes me chuckle 😂

[@gilesbrinkman9798]

So basically they’ve copied the COG lead with a PB Products hit and run system - innovative! 🤔

[@rogercude1459]

🤣🤣

[@grantsimmons8591]

£8 for a lead and some leadcore mental . It’s not new it’s just a cog system. I’ll pass cheers

[@PolePositionTackle]

Its not lead its leadfree material, its not leadcore but our leadfree Dropdown material and its not even look like a COG system😅..

[@CarpstalkerUK]

Just under a tenner for a lead 🤣 keep the leads 😂

[@CarpAndMore]

That price is just ridiculous, I’m already spending more than 25£ a session 🤷‍♂️

[@Apocalyptic656]

Korda has been on this for years, so don't understand your logic 🙄

[@thecowboycarper]

Its nothing like the kirda cog, except the system is lifted from the centre??? Kordas is semi fixed on a lead clip, its not a running lead like this is

[@simonashmead3162]

Haven’t you just copied Korda cog lead system

[@thecowboycarper]

Errrrm!!! Nope 🤔

[@simonashmead3162]

@@thecowboycarper yep 👍

[@thecowboycarper]

@@simonashmead3162 well ive used both and the only comparison is the centre lift of the weight. Kordas is on a lead clip system and is very basic and easy to make yourself. Pole positions is an inline lead running system that has been machined (good look making your own) So really its an evolution of an idea from pulling from the centre of the weight, which korda didnt do first either. Dont Trakker copy Aqua bivvy designs? and nobody gives a hoot about that? Didnt all Nash copy Kordas maggot clip? and nobody cares there too? This lead system is good, expensive, but its good, should give it a try then you will see its nothing like the Cog system (have you used that?) infact dont bother the Cog system isnt very good

[@simonashmead3162]

Can’t fault it used it before Xmas and now haven’t missed a fish 🎣

[@kevlar4384]

😅😅😅load shiza

[@sharpercarper2072]

Nowt new there korda did it years ago lmao

[@thecowboycarper]

Korda’s is on a lead clip and is semi fixed, this is a running lead???

[@sharpercarper2072]

U cam make the korda one a running lead its simple....these videos are never a honest review always ars lickin which product there advertising.... sheep

[@carper1993]

@@sharpercarper2072 Not that same as the Korda one it's a completely different principle. If you snap off with this system the fish is left just with the hook length and not trailing line and a leader.

[@johnroman4608]

More of the same !

[@lazycarper]

rip off

[@PolePositionTackle]

what?🙃

[@paulAnthony7236]

Stuff that it's a rip off.

[@muvvacrusher4137]

Kissing carp, come on why?

[@carletonlong3374]

Yeah cog lead no new idea here just a rehash

[@jokerswild5876]

Copy of Korda cog system lmao carp fishing tackle has become comical 🤦‍♂️🤡🤡

[@thecowboycarper]

You are correct it has become comical 👍 But comparing a running lead system to a semi fixed lead clip one, is a bit comical too

[@carper1993]

Nothing like the COG system

[@michaelmccarthy9781]

Korda cog ripoff

[@PolePositionTackle]

It doesn't even look the same and it certainly doesn't work the same...

[@ProperRural]

Game changer 😅😅😅😅😅 it's just a cog weight,christ your getting useless

[@thecowboycarper]

Its a running lead, not a semi fixed lead clip one like the cog is

[@dickellison2070]

How comes you promote anything that comes onto the market? Just to make a video😮😮😮😮😮

[@leem25]

Wouldnt be a KZbin page without videos... 👍

[@johnstevens5042]

More 🐂💩 products no one really needs next we will be using drones cameras & echo finders just to catch a carp . Or you could use old fashion watercraft and skill built up over years of fishing properly 🍺🍺

[@julianevans6823]

Nothing new anymore mate

[@theyorkshireguy1985]

Over complicated rig , method feeder and sweetcorn catch any carp

[@Itwasntalieitwastrueinmymind]

More pointless rubbish

[@HaveAFishYaDickhead]

It looks like the COG system from Korda. I liked it at first but have stopped using COG now. I think it gives the carp 2 chances of shaking the hook out, first the swivel, that probably comes out quite easily but then still has to drop the lead the conventional way.