Game Composer Is STUNNED by MIDRA'S THEME from ELDEN RING SHADOW OF THE ERDTREE

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Davi Vasc

Davi Vasc

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@DaviVasc
@DaviVasc 2 ай бұрын
I'll continue streaming my first ever Elden Ring adventure TOMORROW (Saturday)! Get caugth up with the first episode so you can join us live: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apzWkpeAqM16b5Y
@calibula95
@calibula95 2 ай бұрын
Wow, i hope you enjoy the game as much as many others have. Always remember, if you get stuck in something, look for something else to explore!
@dgalloway107
@dgalloway107 2 ай бұрын
The Lord of Frenzied Flame will take all torment, all despair, every sin, every curse, and melt it all away.
@Sparkbomber
@Sparkbomber 2 ай бұрын
Dunno if you'll reach Midra yourself, but imo it was the most enjoyable boss battle in the DLC. The Frenzied Flame is the embodiment of utter annihilation btw.
@jameseddleman6944
@jameseddleman6944 Ай бұрын
Anything happen if you play it backwards?
@kurokaen1234
@kurokaen1234 2 ай бұрын
THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS‼️
@calibula95
@calibula95 2 ай бұрын
THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS!!! 📢📢📢
@limecrimes
@limecrimes 2 ай бұрын
THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS🗣️🗣️🗣️
@camiloabarca5476
@camiloabarca5476 2 ай бұрын
THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FO....😵
@Mesain-8
@Mesain-8 2 ай бұрын
😐 = ❌ 🔥 = ✅
@en-men-lu-ana6870
@en-men-lu-ana6870 2 ай бұрын
@@camiloabarca5476 THE DEP-😵
@faisalkhlaqy2344
@faisalkhlaqy2344 2 ай бұрын
“Endure” The word was a curse.
@AvalonDreamz
@AvalonDreamz 2 ай бұрын
That one word is a curse no matter how you use it. Anything you have to "endure" if it doesn't make you miserable at first, you will be later for sure.
@waveburner1254
@waveburner1254 2 ай бұрын
Endure the Frenzied Flame? Or embrace it? Dearest Nanaya... Please forgive me.
@Dastardly_Duo
@Dastardly_Duo 2 ай бұрын
​@@waveburner1254 Pretty sure she meant endure the torture of the thorn plunged into him to prevent the Frenzied Flame from coming out
@davidreljac1707
@davidreljac1707 2 ай бұрын
​@@Dastardly_Duo Nah, the Frenzied Flame burns brighter in more despair and hate. Nanaya wanted him to "endure" so that when the time comes, he'll shine the brightest he could rather than fizzle out like the rest.
@Dastardly_Duo
@Dastardly_Duo 2 ай бұрын
@@davidreljac1707 I thought that at first, but now I don't think so. Why would he apologize for unleashing the FF? Why would he say he's endured enough? He even tells you to leave. The ghost in the very beginning says you should probably leave. They rejected the Aged Ones right outside the Manor. I'm just not seeing enough evidence that they WANTED him to destroy the world
@H2Overdrive99
@H2Overdrive99 2 ай бұрын
THE DEPTHS... OF YOUR ANALYSIS!!!
@Nick-mp1zh
@Nick-mp1zh 2 ай бұрын
I love how he's the Lord of Chaos, so you'd expect him to be wild and savage in his moves. When you fight him though, he's eerily smooth and graceful in his movements.
@waveburner1254
@waveburner1254 2 ай бұрын
Maybe you noticed this already yourself but his second phase is a walz. We're DANCING against him!
@DirtSpud
@DirtSpud 2 ай бұрын
@@waveburner1254 just like Ludwig The Holy Blade. Love it.
@waveburner1254
@waveburner1254 2 ай бұрын
@@DirtSpud True. Ludwig is still one of the best bosses in all of Fromsoftware history.
@sibren9874
@sibren9874 2 ай бұрын
I love that Midra is in complete ecstasy when we fight him, he's been tortured so long that nothing we as Tarnished could inflict on him is worse than the Golden Crux. Notice how during his fight he never attempts to dodge anything at all, like ever.
@Voromire1
@Voromire1 2 ай бұрын
​@@sibren9874 Oh man! I didn't even notice that he didn't dodge anything! That's an incredible detail!
@bull3t209
@bull3t209 2 ай бұрын
i dont think ive heard a track that embodies the character as well as Midras theme. super horrific i love it
@kartikayysola
@kartikayysola 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. It really makes it feel like if you let him leave the room, the world is done for.
@johnlennon2755
@johnlennon2755 2 ай бұрын
Slave Knight Gael
@ul.biggit217
@ul.biggit217 2 ай бұрын
Bayle
@ocdlevelsrising
@ocdlevelsrising Ай бұрын
MOHG
@parkerluciani7048
@parkerluciani7048 24 күн бұрын
Laurence
@caliberkat
@caliberkat 2 ай бұрын
You can hear the the motiff of the tune the frenzied merchants play in 13:15
@lemonsnickers86
@lemonsnickers86 2 ай бұрын
Important part of their theme is that it's saint Trina's. They use it to soothe the ache of madness so midras theme is mocking it
@Gayhan-
@Gayhan- 2 ай бұрын
@@lemonsnickers86no
@maniacalmurderer4123
@maniacalmurderer4123 2 ай бұрын
The tune was made to soothe those inflicted with Madness However, the theme makes it clear that St. Trina is no longer enough.
@ChickenBreast55
@ChickenBreast55 2 ай бұрын
@@Gayhan- It kind of is tho. Saint Trina taught the merchants the song of despair so that it might lull them into deep slumber, where the frenzied flame would not burn them, their eyes would not hurt, for in sleep there is no pain. In this case, if the song of despair is playing during the Lord of Frenzied Flame battle with Midra, it is mocking it, for Midra was not able to endure the flame of chaos, and succumbed to madness.
@carbonatedphantom8388
@carbonatedphantom8388 2 ай бұрын
@@Gayhan- it actually is a lullaby which was played by st trina to soothe the merchants' madness, which is why the mad merchants who were buried alive can be heard playing it
@mr.spooks8313
@mr.spooks8313 2 ай бұрын
The 'Lonely Violin' is exactly that; a highly distorted version of the melody a lone merchant plays on repeat in an area where thousands of people were thrown away and forgotten due to their relation to the Frenzied Flame. A beautiful callback to a heart stopping moment of loneliness, and it adds even more sadness and power to this track.
@MangaMatti
@MangaMatti 2 ай бұрын
Which area? 😮
@mr.spooks8313
@mr.spooks8313 2 ай бұрын
@@MangaMatti Underneath Leyndell is their sewer system; the shunning grounds for the disgraced omen. But, even deeper, Leyndell hides the tomb of the Frenzied Flame. It's not only hidden behind the maze of sewer pipes, but also behind a secret altar that opens when hit. If you haven't found it yet, I suggest you try and find it, one of the most hauntingly beautiful places in the game, and the core to one of the secret endings.
@MangaMatti
@MangaMatti 2 ай бұрын
@@mr.spooks8313 Thanks!!!
@ul.biggit217
@ul.biggit217 2 ай бұрын
The blasphemy of shabrir was convincing the goldern order to lock away the merchants. The merchants sorrow caused the 3 fingers to apperar near them in the lands between
@TheMineA7
@TheMineA7 2 ай бұрын
This theme almost felt alien. Even the way the boss moves like a sea serpent in some attacks. It was crazy. My favourite boss and theme in the DLC
@CursedImagesEveryday
@CursedImagesEveryday 2 ай бұрын
That pulsing heartbeat feels like a hivemind that came to consume everything and that small violing represents poor Midra lost in it...
@portalmanHUN
@portalmanHUN 2 ай бұрын
Well the frenzied flame is kind of a world ending cosmic threat if left unchecked.
@apophisstr6719
@apophisstr6719 2 ай бұрын
@@portalmanHUN Shabriri: "What unchecked? It's bliss! it's pure ecstasy!"
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 2 ай бұрын
Radahn's theme is better
@Mentaljedi
@Mentaljedi 2 ай бұрын
It felt straight out of Bloodborne, Lovecraftian
@darkeather2
@darkeather2 2 ай бұрын
Ohhh, the happy chord. That finally makes it make sense. It's relief and euphoria. He's been impaled in the head for who-knows how long, and when we find him, he finally gets the willpower to pull his own head off. He's relieved of the countless years of pain, of the struggle to endure just to stop the frenzy flame from inhabiting him. And when he finally gives up... happiness. Euphoria. Watch how he raises his hands, as if simply existing is the most pleasurable thing in the world to him. I'm guessing the Frenzy Flame makes the user not feel pain anymore? But also, in second phase the rising intensity and anger you mentioned, is probably him getting over the euphoria and remembering how angry he is at the world for whatever caused him to get impaled in the first place.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 2 ай бұрын
Feels like he is in relief for not enduring anymore
@tnorki
@tnorki 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the person taken over by the Frenzied Flame is no longer alive, or at least not conscious anymore. What supports this theory is the sudden change of Midra's character and the main game's Frenzied Flame ending, where the player character "decides" to burn the world. Oh, also his head is literally gone.
@Arcanefungus
@Arcanefungus 2 ай бұрын
I think we can say with certainty that the frenzied flame inflicts a buttload of pain, if only judging by the howling of everyone inflicted with it who still has a mouth to howl. But then, the frenzied flame burns away all that divides and distinguishes, perhaps including the distinction between pain and pleasure. And for midra, who has endured nothing but pain for the last who knows how many centuries that could be the ultimate exaltation
@darkeather2
@darkeather2 2 ай бұрын
@@Arcanefungus i was under the impression that the howls of pain were a result of whatever pushed them towards the frenzied flame in the first place. The common theme of the followers is that they were in dire pain, mentally or otherwise, beforehand.
@alicematalice
@alicematalice 2 ай бұрын
From the Frenzyflame Pot description: "The flame of frenzy burns the eyes, but tranquility follows in its wake. May this pot bring salvation to those it strikes." So yeah, while the frenzy at first causes agony it eventually burns away all pain and sorrow, leaving the afflicted in a kind of rapturous bliss. Explains Midra’s swagger (though at that point there’s likely nothing of him as a person left, the replacement of the LoFF’s head with the flame itself is pretty strong symbolism for him being nothing but a vessel of the presumed hivemind that the frenzied flame likely is).
@mick2017
@mick2017 2 ай бұрын
Midra is indeed a tragic character. He was supposed to be a lord of frenzied flame, essentially, a vessel for a entity that wants to bring death to all life. But he couldn't ascend to his fate because he promised to his spouse, Nanaya, that he would endure and not let the frenzy flame take control. The hornsent, the people that were in charge of that land even killed everyone in Midra's manse, tortured him and killed Nanaya, sealing everything so Noone could find it, but when our character steps in, Midra can't resist anymore and just unleashes his power and transform into that lord everyone is afraid of.
@HK_BLAU
@HK_BLAU 2 ай бұрын
worth noting that this is just one of many reasonable interpretations
@mick2017
@mick2017 2 ай бұрын
@@HK_BLAU yes that's the beauty of the storytelling in a fromsoftware game, it's all about the interpretation of we as players and spectators.
@hideharu-xiii8852
@hideharu-xiii8852 2 ай бұрын
I’ve also heard the theory that Nanaya is a figment of Midra’s imagination via the mental and physical torment he is going through in the unwilling process of the ritual to be the lord, and her telling him to endure is actually HELPING the process so his descent will be all the more steeper.
@jakeniclaz5393
@jakeniclaz5393 2 ай бұрын
@@hideharu-xiii8852There is a painting with both Midra and presumably Nanaya on it, though. The body Nanaya‘s Torch can be found on also resembles the woman in the painting, so I believe that theory is rather unlikely
@ExileTwilight
@ExileTwilight 2 ай бұрын
@@jakeniclaz5393 Most likely (at least my interpretation) is that Nanaya was essentially manipulating him into becoming the Lord of Frenzied flame, thus why her encouragement to "endure" becoming a curse for him.
@alicematalice
@alicematalice 2 ай бұрын
The frenzied flame embodies the will of the utterly downtrodden, those who have experienced absolute despair and lost everything. At the same time, the madness it imparts eventually brings a form of glorious relief. So it makes sense that this track carries both an immense sense of sadness but also glorious bombast. "The Lord of Frenzied Flame shall take their torment, despair. Their affliction. Every sin, every curse. All melted away."
@HeevaEgo
@HeevaEgo 2 ай бұрын
It’s a beautiful concept in the game. You’d expect something that’s tied to Chaos and Disarray to be…well… chaotic. But there’s a certain beauty to the Chaos flame. Because, the person who inherits the Flame of Despair are chaotic in their mannerisms…. Until they ascend. Once they ascend, they rid themselves of pure agony. And hence, ironically enough, the flame of “Chaos” brings about an unparalleled sense of Euphoria to its beholder. Fromsoftware knocked that theme/concept outta the park with Midra. His movements are arguably the most Dance-like/smooth movements in the entire game - further reinforcing what was already established in the basegame, regarding the Frenzied Flame, with how euphoric it can become
@tulpaart8462
@tulpaart8462 2 ай бұрын
The little bit of happiness in there is so interesting. After enduring great suffering and becoming the Lord of Frenzied flame, Midra does look like he's having the time of his life when we're fighting him.
@happymaster19
@happymaster19 2 ай бұрын
Nuclear belly flop!
@ShutterSnapped
@ShutterSnapped 2 ай бұрын
I believe Midra's lore is that his wife Nanaya, is speculated, as being a figure who wanted to cultivate the Frenzy Flame. Some people have wondered if she had tried before with others and had moved on to Midra. Midra showed promise but as the progression may have been coming to fruition they were attacked. Midra's "survival" is where some of the lore lines come from. Nanaya's dying words were to endure and so Midra, quite horrifically maimed, endured in his mansion. Until we came and send him on his way. And instead he became a Lord of the Frenzy Flame. And by lore standards he's a "failed lord." And in true Miyazaki fashion, the failure is just as existentially a threat to everything. Perhaps there's some mania coming from what became of Midra in the end. Chaos.
@marcoasierrabernal4893
@marcoasierrabernal4893 2 ай бұрын
The happiness comes the end result, all melted away in the yellow flames, no more suffering, no more curses, all is one and harmonious once more.
@sanguineregis5354
@sanguineregis5354 2 ай бұрын
I firmly believe that what we fight is Midra in body alone. I believe his soul and mind are dead and gone, that it is the Flame of Frenzy itself that controls his dessicated corpse.
@happymaster19
@happymaster19 2 ай бұрын
@@sanguineregis5354 Are you talking about after removing the sword? Or do you believe the FF was saying that IT had endured enough and was apologizing to Nanaya?
@happymaster19
@happymaster19 2 ай бұрын
13:25 I adore how this sublimely goes from the Merchant's melody into regal madness. That choir is in peak form. I love a fight that feels like a dance.
@justinrodriguez5957
@justinrodriguez5957 2 ай бұрын
The horrifying part that I think this track illustrates so well is that what the player may have misunderstood as uncontrolled madness, is revealed to be absolutely willful. This force has reason, and it has reasoned the world as it knows must be burned to the ground to be righted.
@SirPogsalotCreates
@SirPogsalotCreates 2 ай бұрын
"In an insane world, it is the sane who are called crazy." - that depressed power star from the Super Mario movie
@Zythryl
@Zythryl Ай бұрын
Absolutely-Midra post-ascendancy is the most self-assured enemy we face in the entire game, even compared to Miquella, who divested himself of his very doubt and indecision. The Lord of madness is not the creature who has gone the most mad, it is the creature who has become madness itself. The very philosophy of chaos, made incarnate. Its goal is absolute-the King in Yellow would wrench the Greater Will down from the heavens, and force it to look suffering in the eye, where it will finally be held accountable, and face the pain it had wrought with the gift of life. …that is, it would, if our Tarnished’s resolve weren’t as steely as it is.
@allthe1
@allthe1 Ай бұрын
Just like all mental illnesses irl People call it "mad", but they're just deeply terrified of understanding it
@salmonsteak5759
@salmonsteak5759 2 ай бұрын
Best ost in the game imo
@Blackblade-NeX
@Blackblade-NeX 2 ай бұрын
Ive listened to midra and messmers ost 5 times aday if not more since release, i love those 2 tracks and bosses
@im2arrogant118
@im2arrogant118 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Although I have Midra, Mogh and Romina all tied for 1st place.
@Gojira_uz
@Gojira_uz 2 ай бұрын
Honestly yeah when I first heard the choir as Midra's frenzy head lit up, I never pogged so hard in my life dude the time and presentation of the reveal only makes it better.
@Wade8419
@Wade8419 2 ай бұрын
Yeah mohg is still the #1 theme for me, but this one is great​@im2arrogant118
@temxasremd
@temxasremd 2 ай бұрын
PCR goes hard tho
@mt2r-music
@mt2r-music 2 ай бұрын
17:59 looking at the descending notes you can actually see the momentum at which everything falls into chaos. It feels like the second pair of descending notes are skipping a step. It’s like they’re trembling, not being able to keep up with the madness they’re being sucked into. They are in a freefall, accelerating while unwillingly being pulled into the yellow flame of the frenzied outer god. For some context, story wise you are just as overwhelmed by what’s happening as the music suggests. It goes from 0 to 100, with 100 being one of the worst possible things that can happen to the world of Elden Ring. You’re thinking to yourself „if this thing manages to leave this room, everything was for nothing.“ And at the very end of the piece, the loudly crackling and overwhelmingly oppressive fire that has pushed you into the corner of this small room it erupted in, filling the entire building with burning destruction, finally goes out like blowing out a candle.
@Akiramatsu98
@Akiramatsu98 2 ай бұрын
I just love how Davi can explain music in simple words, so any pure strength build main can understand (me included)
@higherbeing1768
@higherbeing1768 2 ай бұрын
Bro really went there lol
@angeltzepesh1
@angeltzepesh1 2 ай бұрын
This song finally dethroned Living Failures OST from Bloodborne for me. You literally waltz with the boss, its an amazing moment in the game and this is the perfect OST to go with the fight. "Descent into madness" is a spot on description. I like to call it "A waltz with the devil against the clock".
@seventowers1299
@seventowers1299 2 ай бұрын
You correctly noticed that there seems to be no chaos. Despite the fact that frenzied flame seems to be all about chaos in every descriptions, in reality its manifestations are distinguished by surprising calmness and composure. This is the fire of those who were almost destroyed by their suffering and injustices of the world. But in the end they accepted it. Now all they want is to end. Real death for everything around. In a world where the concept of Destined Death exists, feared by many, it is actually the Frenzied Flame that brings final death. For everything living and nonliving. And those who accepted it are usually calm, cold and even graceful. And lonely of course. It's true about Midra, and about anyone else. Seems like they all forgot about anyone around. Like they all don't exist anymore. Of course there is also Shabriri, but it is kinda different story. He's more like a herald of the flame than one of its victims. Thanks for your videos! I love them all. Really))
@davidn4956
@davidn4956 2 ай бұрын
The general concepts they're going for with the Frenzied Flame is that it's the ultimate destroyer of all things, and it doesn't show up often, but when it does it's a panic to desperately contain it before it destroys all reality. That's what this song is conveying, along with elements of Midra's backstory and the massive amount of tension leading up to the discovery of Midra at the end of the level.
@glimmerofhope3074
@glimmerofhope3074 22 күн бұрын
Oohhh, sounds like depression, 🫠 lol
@yeboi2379
@yeboi2379 2 ай бұрын
You gotta listen to Bayle the Dread next.
@DaviVasc
@DaviVasc 2 ай бұрын
That is the plan!
@manavtokas9096
@manavtokas9096 2 ай бұрын
@@DaviVasc also the mother of fingers and the promised consort, please
@SomeCrow
@SomeCrow 2 ай бұрын
CURSE YOU BAYLE!
@calibula95
@calibula95 2 ай бұрын
​@@SomeCrowI HEREBY VOW YOU'LL RUE THIS DAY!
@austinwilson7373
@austinwilson7373 2 ай бұрын
@@calibula95SOLID OF SCALE YOU MAY BE, FOUL DRAGON
@cjh.1920
@cjh.1920 2 ай бұрын
The freaky violin part in phase 2 alludes to what the community dubbed the song of despair, and should be very familiar to anyone who has done the Lord of Frenzied Flame ending.
@Anch0rd
@Anch0rd 2 ай бұрын
This song sounds exactly as it must. A God of Chaos taking root in mortal flesh should evoke both terror and awe and they nailed it
@AlexHyena1
@AlexHyena1 2 ай бұрын
the frenzied flame finds its way into people who have experienced a deep sense of grieving, loneliness, hatred, despair & nihilism and I think Midra’s theme encapsulated that perfectly
@YourCoolUncleMccroy
@YourCoolUncleMccroy 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore this theme. It reminds me a lot of Micolash's even though the two are so different, but while Micolash's feels like a descent into his insanity, Midra's feels like a mastery over his madness
@happymaster19
@happymaster19 2 ай бұрын
Well put.
@stygianskies4776
@stygianskies4776 2 ай бұрын
This is probably my favorite track in the whole OST
@nikdash-4787
@nikdash-4787 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE THE PROMISED CONSORT NEXT
@yuomovaeh3028
@yuomovaeh3028 2 ай бұрын
@@Lupurius_Scarlet Up there definitely
@timclaridge8458
@timclaridge8458 2 ай бұрын
Midra is the vessel for the Frenzied Flame, a nihilistic force that seeks to end all of creation as a means to end suffering, and is only summoned in places of intense suffering. When we find Midea, he has been suppressing the flame for years at the request of a woman named Nanaya, who (while we don't know their exact relationship) was close to Midra. He has been tortured as evident by the scars on his body, his emancipation and most notably by the massive barbed sword stuck through his body. We come along and beat him down, at which point he decides enough is enough, and unleashes the power of frenzy by forcefully removing the sword from his body. The reason this sounds so grandiose and terrifying is because we are facing the living avatar of the apocalypse, something every faction feared.
@valteth
@valteth 2 ай бұрын
Most elden ring boss fights involve a boss trying to stop you and you trying to get past them. This fight you are the one trying to stop the boss.
@rubenel7993
@rubenel7993 Ай бұрын
Yep. While most bosses are constantly calling me a "foul/unfit tarnished" , this boss gave me the impression of "Come my friend! Lets dance together as the world is destroyed!" \©/
@maran947
@maran947 2 ай бұрын
Enough! I have endured more than enough! Forgive me dearest Nanaia.. And proceeds with the most metal thing I have ever seen... Man this boss is amazing and tragic.
@drawnsequence
@drawnsequence Ай бұрын
This is the only reaction video on this piece of music that was actually insightful. Fantastic video!
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 Ай бұрын
Also, the chords you listed early in the video: Sad - Unexpected Sad - Sad - Tense - Unexpected Tense/Happy - Disturbing That is definitely a descent into madness in the form of chord progression.
@ArictheHunter
@ArictheHunter 2 ай бұрын
This was definitely my favorite theme of the dlc. I love how you can so accurately pick out what the story themes of the character is in the music.
@hideharu-xiii8852
@hideharu-xiii8852 2 ай бұрын
Those strings in the background that start at 11:43 , 12:14 , and 12:24 immediately reminded me of the strings in Lawrence’s theme, which coincidentally also symbolized a fall from grace now that I think about it.
@fxlja
@fxlja 2 ай бұрын
13:15 when I heard the leitmotiff of the Song of Despair I just choked during the bossfight. For those unaware, St. Trina made that song to soothe the Nomadic Merchants, so they could have some semblance of peace in the form of sleep. Hearing it play in Midra's OST as a twisted shriek that dies out in a few notes adds so much gravity into the situation overall. Midra is in a pain so, SO severe, not even the lull of eternal sleep can soothe him.
@bloodofphantoms
@bloodofphantoms 2 ай бұрын
you're kinda selling me on midra now while i'm watching at first i thought the theme was mid and just too chaotic but there's definitely some great complexity here from composer (myself) to composer (davi)
@bloodofphantoms
@bloodofphantoms 2 ай бұрын
for comparison my favorite theme is morgott's from base, and from the dlc even though i completed it i still have to figure that out.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 2 ай бұрын
@@bloodofphantoms That's funny, I can't remember any of Morgott's theme, I found it super forgettable.
@Red-Panda
@Red-Panda 2 ай бұрын
The lore behind the flame of frenzy is my favorite part of Elden Ring, so happy to see the music associated hits just as hard!
@mikeisait5521
@mikeisait5521 2 ай бұрын
First, also this is now my favorite track from Elden ring of all time now
@bdizzle7072
@bdizzle7072 2 ай бұрын
I think the best thing to me is how the first half is so wildly inconsistent with the time signature, it's nearly impossible to keep consistent track of the beat, but the later phase is usually 3/4, almost dance like though it still doesn't stay restrained by the conventional beat. The piece sounds so chaotic at first, but the longer it goes on the more regal is sounds, oddly controlled, with a confident and powerful vocal chorus and supporting strings overpowering the small voice of the solo violin and the powerful slow heartbeat driving it forward. To me it says that the Frenzied Flame isn't just madness and chaos, it has a will and a method, just one that's beyond our limited minds. This is a Lord we're fighting, a ruler, and though incomprehensible to us it has a reason to its madness. There's a series of descents as you noted, but also a pattern of ascending phrases. He's rising to lordship as he descends into madness.
@OmegaYak
@OmegaYak 2 ай бұрын
The first half isn't that inconsistent, it's mostly just in 5/8. The second half is mostly in 6/8 except for when it reprises the first part.
@jacobedler296
@jacobedler296 Ай бұрын
the word you're looking for is "despair"
@CursedImagesEveryday
@CursedImagesEveryday 2 ай бұрын
The happy cord mixed with the disturbing ones represents madness like when a madman is happy when he comits a murder. Its a disturbing happy cord. Midra is happy because while he burns the entire world to ash his suffering would finally end. That little violin represents poor Midra lost in the hivemindish pulsing horror that is frenzied flame. Its also a throwback to the merchants song. Imprisoning of merchants is the one thing that started all the madness, just to rub salt in the wound to remind you who is responsible
@Leoplix-id5tu
@Leoplix-id5tu 2 ай бұрын
I think the happy chord, and the calm ending, both have an explanation in Midra. He is a human that contained the god of Madness himself in him, while being tortured for years. But when the MC comes, he decide to let it all go, and i think this is what the happy chord is : Midra finally don't have to endure anymore. And the calm at the end is, i think, because he can stop the pains he felt for so long. The entire rest of the theme is the theme of the Madness god, and the almost cosmic threat he is, which explein all the disturbing chords and the descent without stop in the music. The calm at the end can mean too that now that the thing is gone, the everything seems so calm (or, in case you are doing the quest to become the lord of frenzied flame yourself, you can relax because now YOU are the ONLY lord 😂)
@kratkartan1486
@kratkartan1486 2 ай бұрын
That screeching sound at the beginning is a scream of anguish. Midra's suffered for far too long. Far longer than he should have, and he's finally had enough. All that pain has culminated into his transformation into a horrifying monster. A demon of wrath.
@Gozieaaa
@Gozieaaa 2 ай бұрын
Second phase comes Davi: "Is the good part over? Is there a bridge from where i can start analysing the song?" Midra: "THE DEPTHS OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS!" (The good part keeps building up and you can't stop it just like your madness bar)
@Blasphemy79
@Blasphemy79 2 ай бұрын
It’s cool how the first phase is (almost) entirely composed in a 5/8 time signature, which at first can feel abnormal and chaotic, but by phase 2 it switches between 5/8 and 6/8, a shift between a dancelike majesty and the chaos from phase 1, even including two very melodic sequences, one in 5/8 and one in 6/8.
@R3m1ly
@R3m1ly 2 ай бұрын
Midra was a potential lord of frenzied flame, whose goal it was to burn the world into nothing to erase all suffering. It would explain why there's so much sadness and so many 'evil' sounding chords, since Midra suffered quite a lot. But it also explains why there's some happiness throughout. People afflicted with the flame of frenzy, while insane, are also thrilled with the prospect of melting away all despair in the world. "May chaos take the world!"
@calibula95
@calibula95 2 ай бұрын
It's here guys! We're going mad with this one!
@Nevecus
@Nevecus 2 ай бұрын
I always hear such glee in the song. Such elation and ecstasy. An unrepenting and uncaring malice that whirls at the center of the madness. It is happy to have been unleashed.
@irurwurst
@irurwurst 2 ай бұрын
The most surprising themes in this song to me, as someone who experienced it in the fight and understood the context surrounding it, were not the sinister or lonely parts, but the parts which almost seem overflowing with defiant self-confidence and pride. It really refined my perspective on the story being told.
@Smasherverse
@Smasherverse Ай бұрын
What is crazy to me is that the start is 5/8 through the first half and then it becomes complete shifting to a 6/8 dance feel in the second half showing how the frenzy flame is gaining more control and power and then it returns to 5/8 but with more grace almost embracing it’s own chaos and then back to 6/8 for the final melody where it’s lucidity is at its peak
@umbrajesus5230
@umbrajesus5230 2 ай бұрын
You have no idea how excited i was to see that you reacted to this finally!! Glad you realize how impressive and masterly crafted this song is in how it speaks volumes to telling Midras suffering and its just beautiful and horrific ❤
@Nick-mp1zh
@Nick-mp1zh 2 ай бұрын
I always really appreciate how you go into detail with stuff like happy and disturbing chords, it really helps a guy like me, who doesn't know any music theory, to follow along with the analysis.
@SnakeEater776
@SnakeEater776 Ай бұрын
this song really gives the feeling of "you need to kill this thing NOW"
@NeonBlacklightTH
@NeonBlacklightTH 21 күн бұрын
From what I've heard about the song, some people describe Midra's theme as a maddening waltz, starting off disturbed but slowly grows into a chaotic but elegant dance.
@gluelake
@gluelake 2 ай бұрын
Once again got my mind blown by how accurate your guess about Midra is. Indeed, the Lord of Frenzied Flame, despite being the very embodiment of chaos, has a very distinct majesty to him. Cant wait to see you get to that part of the game, and get that particular ending.
@Audio_noodle
@Audio_noodle 2 ай бұрын
There's a sense of glee in midras theme and his animations
@Ashiya23
@Ashiya23 2 ай бұрын
When you mentioned the bass sounds like the heartbeat, it was spot on because that is exactly what I thought!
@soulstarved4116
@soulstarved4116 2 ай бұрын
Midra and Nanaya start playing around with a god of chaos known as the Frenzy Flame, and for their heresy, Midra's entire estate was ritualistically executed. Midra is left alive in a torturous state to imprison this Frenzy Flame within him, clinging to the last words of Nanaya to "endure." My speculation... Midra thinks that he will "endure" to keep this chaos god contained. But in reality, Nanaya said to "endure" so that Midra could experience more suffering, driving him further into insanity and thus becoming a worthy vessel for the Frenzy Flame. However, it was Midra's love for Nanaya that kept him from achieving true lordship.
@srarts123
@srarts123 2 ай бұрын
Midra was tortured and impaled upon the weapon he uses in the fight for embodying the frenzied flame, basically something that is reviled and shunned. The only enemies you find in his location are effectively his jailersand torturers, preventing him from ever escaping. What i find interesting is the melody is almost incomplete in first phase but then you hear the full melody in second phase almost as if he is realizing and embracing his abilities as a lord of frenzy flame.
@ryuplayz3043
@ryuplayz3043 2 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉 awesome I was one to request this one ain’t it just horrifyingly good thanks for the reaction
@SilentMephisto
@SilentMephisto 2 ай бұрын
This track really sounds like straight out of a horror movie, absolutely fantastic stuff 😍
@TheHFChang
@TheHFChang 2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. This is an epic piece and love that you can’t even see the character but you pull out the essence of him little by little as you analyse the music. I subscribed.
@A_Koenig
@A_Koenig 2 ай бұрын
This track is the dismal hymn of loneliness, despair and suffering turning into a calculated, maddening wish for the end of all life.
@CGAA07017
@CGAA07017 2 ай бұрын
When I finally beated him, I had no flasks left, my spirit summon had already died some time ago... I almost had a heart attack lol. It took me some minutes to calm down and process everything. The melody portrays the character very well, as well as the scary, powerful, presence of the Frenzied Flame. The, creepy and scary, yet comforting hope of those who dispair. Melt all that disguinshes and divides in yellow Flame of Chaos...
@TarnishedZorro
@TarnishedZorro 2 ай бұрын
15:36 Somekind of Maaaaaaadness
@autorunzeroone
@autorunzeroone 2 ай бұрын
THE MERCHANT VIOLIN GOES SO HARD
@villelepoaho4105
@villelepoaho4105 2 ай бұрын
In terms of lore, this boss is just pure evil. Fire that would burn away everything that exists, including spirits. When fire has the power to burn down afterlife itself, you know it's bad :D
@latiaos11
@latiaos11 2 ай бұрын
Sensei Miyazawa is an absolute G O A T
@goosemanVEVO
@goosemanVEVO 2 ай бұрын
Its interesting. The Frenzied Flame is chaos, but its not chaos without a purpose. It represents the idea that life implies suffering, and embodies the wishes of all those who suffered so much that they wished they had never lived at all. So as Lord of Frenzied Flame, Midra champions the idea of burning away all life in the chaos of the yellow flames not out of malice, but as a twisted form of mercy.
@Jargleman
@Jargleman 2 ай бұрын
its possible the inclusion of the "happy chord" in the second phase is due to midra's suffering ending as he is immolated into the flame of frenzied, like he is freed but in a horrifying manner
@ThisLiteralFP
@ThisLiteralFP 2 ай бұрын
Hey Davi, I understand that you probably want to cover the DLC tracks before anything else, but I have to recommend Slave Knight Gael from DS3. Even after the DLC, he has to be my favorite track, tied with Ludwig. Also, good luck with your streams! I’ll definitely be tuning in.
@salamanderthegr8630
@salamanderthegr8630 2 ай бұрын
I remember physically shivering from the music my first fight with him.
@Sajjad_Asghar
@Sajjad_Asghar 2 ай бұрын
No way! how long you lasted though?
@escahfaidhe755
@escahfaidhe755 2 ай бұрын
You werent far off when you beought up Chaos. The frenzied flame IS chaos. But thats...about it actually, its pure chaos. The opposite and antithesis of order, those burnt by it suffer immense pain, followrd by a deep tranquility and a blessing of immense knowledge, the idea that in the end all is as one. This is reflected in the behavior of its avatar, the lord of frenzied flame. Who is so powerful that all around it simply burns, but is apso disdonantly serene and gentle in its movements. It isnt something infected by madness. It IS the madness. Regarding the world around it with eyes tinted with bloody gold. Next you should check out the theme of the Promised consort
@Gensolink
@Gensolink 2 ай бұрын
actually I feel like people might misunderstand what chaos means in this context. It's not something disorderly I think it might be in line with what chaos is in the greek mythology an abyss where nothing lives or is just indistinguishable matter which fits the frenzied flame of melting everything away.
@ravynbunny7193
@ravynbunny7193 2 ай бұрын
With the malice and horror in the background but the heavy personality in the foreground it feels like something horrible is eating away at a tragic character, that's the impression I get at least
@smilxy2879
@smilxy2879 2 ай бұрын
Hey Davi, I love your OST reactions and breakdowns! This track is one of my favourites from the DLC and im glad I finally got to see your interpretation. It's definitely the most Bloodborne-esque out of the elden ring OST. Do you think you'll react to more OSTs from Bloodborne? If so I'd strongly recommend Micolash's theme, as I think his song resonates with Midras quite heavily in terms of "decent into madness".
@SlippyLegJones
@SlippyLegJones 25 күн бұрын
I love how this track goes from nearly ambient, to banger phase2-esque, to holy fuck it's still getting bigger. Also you stopping to say "this goes so hard man" lmao
@ghastlyderp2637
@ghastlyderp2637 2 ай бұрын
That peaceful resolution makes sense now, we finally ended Midra's suffering
@waveburner1254
@waveburner1254 2 ай бұрын
Midra and Messmer are probably my favorite two DLC bosses. Especially Midra. When you get to the DLC, don't let yourself get spoiled by ANYONE! Midra and the whole area leading up to him are absolutely amazing and imo a huge homage to some other Fromsoftware title. Definitely my favorite area.
@sierraandrews9921
@sierraandrews9921 2 ай бұрын
i kept skipping over this track when i first listened to the ost cos it takes so long to get going, but OMG I WAS MISSING OUT. Easily one of the best in the dlc if not the whole game
@Soulute367
@Soulute367 9 күн бұрын
I was just gonna gloss over it too. This is Elden Rings best ost. I want more Shoi Miyazawa in the future fromsoft art peices.
@KiroShinigami
@KiroShinigami 2 ай бұрын
I so hoped you would cover this and you didn't disappoint. This score is insanity in its beauty! The fact it has in phase 2 at the start the Merchants song that played when you first entered the place where you find all the dead merchants or those gone mad. One played the lullaby forever to quell the rest. Midra is the definition of DONE WITH EVERYONE's SHIT. He has Endured enough.
@timsonnenberg6977
@timsonnenberg6977 2 ай бұрын
Okay, hear me out. We missed a Bloodborne master piece, by never doing Ebrietas daughter of cosmos' track. It has to be done!
@happymaster19
@happymaster19 2 ай бұрын
@@timsonnenberg6977 Metyr?
@allthe1
@allthe1 Ай бұрын
1:50 "they're building this up so slowly" 😂 My man you have no idea for how long Midra has had it building up
@DurpyKraken
@DurpyKraken 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic breakdown. Somehow you’re great at finding the story in these pieces. I’d love to see a reaction for Bayle the Dread or Promised Consort next!
@Chireiya
@Chireiya 2 ай бұрын
Soooo many goosebumps. This song really goes so hard. It's always so crazy how spot on you are with your in your deductions, it's honestly impressive!
@Demiler
@Demiler Ай бұрын
Mr. Vasc: "Endure". Like DionellGames said in a Short: Perhaps his weakness was compassion. The read you did on this theme was incredibly accurate. 10:22 Awesome, man. Also real fun to have your insight to understand way better why this ost conveys so much power. Only with your help could I hear those drums as the beating of a heart 11:51. I´ll be happy to follow future vids.
@yimwee2401
@yimwee2401 2 ай бұрын
The seemingly random happy tones are from the sweet release of nothingness after suffering and torture for many many years
@cosmic2750
@cosmic2750 2 ай бұрын
You’ve gotta listen to Promised Consort. That is by far the absolute best track on the soundtrack. I will say you might be able to make connections with that one, but it is actually amazing
2 ай бұрын
Your so onpoint with your analys alligning with what that boss, it is kinda insane, absolutely perfect work!
@darkluxgames2347
@darkluxgames2347 Ай бұрын
Finally, after not being able to play for so long, I have reached this boss and I can finally watch this video spoiler free. Even just seeing the cutscene (I was so close my first run before dying lol) I was creeeped out. This music is truly the personification of disturbing for me in Elden Ring. It's absolutely perfect. Seriously all the composers went all out for these themes, massive applause to them for this DLC's tracks.
@adrienperret9473
@adrienperret9473 2 ай бұрын
THANKS A LOT FOR ANALYSING THIS MASTERPIECE, I genuinely think this could be my fav OST of all time your analysis is on point as usual Keep up the work ! Also I had a question, when you play chords with piano on top of the music some times I don't really undesratdn what it means or why? That's the only "problem" I have with this sometimes, it's really interesting but I don't know what it means (I mean I understand because i'm musician but my theorical lnowledge is far from yours x) ) Aside from that I really liked this !
@danielrobinson7872
@danielrobinson7872 2 ай бұрын
Midra was a super cool boss. The sound effect they use for the frenzied flame is super intimidating.
@TheEtherealLord
@TheEtherealLord 2 ай бұрын
Hey Davi I know right now you are caught in the Elden Ring DLC music but when you have the time you should check out the ost for the game Furi. Each song is a banger you wont regret it.
@laxor5902
@laxor5902 2 ай бұрын
it's so cool that he can tell the entire backstory of a boss just by listening to the OST
@Lord_O_Beans
@Lord_O_Beans 2 ай бұрын
I love it when its a song that makes him lose his mind. Davi, your a treasure. Never change
@PenderTheTyrant
@PenderTheTyrant 2 ай бұрын
This was the ONLY ost of all souls that made me go "this boss is about to die, i'll let him hill me so i can listen to the track again"
@remygallardo7364
@remygallardo7364 2 ай бұрын
You did an excellent job breaking down the song and were dancing around the story meaning so perfectly. I definitely think that the reason they made the song the way they did was to highlight that despite all this Midra is still not a true lord of frenzied flame. There is still an element of individuality to him despite having ascended to become a host. He never actually WANTED to be the lord of the frenzied flame, he did it for his lover and despite him "surrendering" to it and becoming the frenzied flame, it is still an imperfect match compared to when the player does it if they pursue the frenzied flame ending.
@oodigie687
@oodigie687 2 ай бұрын
I recommend the final boss of the DLC’s theme as well, the OST in the 2nd half is awesome
@ravynbunny7193
@ravynbunny7193 2 ай бұрын
I cannot wait til you hear the final boss' music
@גיאבראנץ-ר5ק
@גיאבראנץ-ר5ק 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always! I also found it interesting that the beat in this track alternates between 5/4 and 3/4 The 5/4 for me correlates with the contrast between the Two Fingers and the Three Fingers of two beats for the Two Fingers of the Greater Will and three beats for the Three Fingers of the Frenzied Flame
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