Game Dev Explains Marvel Rivals’ Superior Character Design

[@KyleThompson-l8l]

Marvel avengers game came out in 2020 not 2016

[@SabrPath]

You're right, I don't know where I got that 2016 from. Regardless, I got my information wrong.

[@rujon288]

@@SabrPath Marvel Heroes omega came out for console 2016. It was pretty good I remember playing it fondly.

[@lasmiley3793]

Facts way off

[@SabrPath]

@@lasmiley3793 Yes, mistakes happen though.

[@Natch_Leopard]

The pursuit of realism in character designs tend to follow the blandness of it too.

[@SabrPath]

Yes, I agree to a point. Realistic can look bland, but it doesn't need to. All the characters in this video have multiple costumes in the MCU that look much more interesting.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Carry that into the real world. Practical isn't necessarily iconic.

[@Khn_2102]

​@@kamikeserpentail3778Yep

[@Lildoug_456]

You’re dead wrong, it’s not about realism it is about good design.

[@bigheadrhino]

Realistic can definitely look good but anyone who can pull that off is probably in fashion or working with live action not working on video games.

[@julianx2rl]

"One important factor is their silhouette" Sakurai: See, this guy knows what he's talking about.

[@julianx2rl]

Sakurai mentioned in his videos multiple times exactly that. That the silhouettes were important not only to make each character distinct, but also to clearly convey what they were doing.

[@SabrPath]

I need to watch his game design videos. I hear they're good.

[@ShaneJoshua1980]

Rivals as they have more energy to them. 2016 Avengers was caught between trying to do the MCU or its own thing.

[@SabrPath]

That was a big problem with Marvel Avengers. It looked close enough to MCU to be compared to it, but it wasn't close enough so it looked like a knock off.

[@211tetsuo]

The style for Rivals reminds me of those Marvel VS Capcom games, which were quite popular back in the day. Plus I feel that the stylised version of the heroes would age much better than the close to realistic look. Rivals plays on the fact that you're playing super heroes from comic books so the comic style works well. The exaggerated extremities/features and poses do stand out much more than trying to have characters look like an average joe.

[@SabrPath]

Mentioning the age is a good point. How old is team fortress 2 by now?

[@scaryfella3481]

​@@SabrPath Will be 18 in this year. Finally it can drive and drink!

[@kerrms]

@@scaryfella3481but not at the same time…. right?

[@ArmourBlanche]

And this was all from the front. When you examine the backside of the torso of certain characters, they have more intricate patterns and details, which just looks amazing.

[@SabrPath]

This is a really good point. Plays will spend a lot of time seeing the backside of the characters they play as, in both games.

[@N.A.ROfficial]

I love how this guy who's never even played Marvel Rivals was immediately able to tell Iron Man was a duelist character which was completely correct---that's great character design

[@SabrPath]

If this game came out ten years ago, I would have been into this game. I really liked team fortress 2 and overwatch. I don't have time for online multiplayer games anymore

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

The 2016 game looks like they designed characters you might run into in the real world. Marvel Rivals designs them like action figures you might have had as a kid.

[@Thebritshnationlist-unttp-UE]

The game came out in 2020

[@gnilogaming]

**goes to black widow** "This one HARAM. 😠"

[@mr.whimsic6902]

I dont get what he means by this

[@NicCrimson]

I wish he actually gave some insight like the rest, instead of basically saying "oo look hot girl"

[@luanfelipe9321]

​@@NicCrimsonthere isn't much too say about that dull design. it's just boring to look at

[@GalluZ]

​@@luanfelipe9321him saying haram implies that hot girl = bad, but with how little is being elaborated, I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or serious. The whole tone of the video seems to be primarily subjective and analytic, so it Black Widow's analysis comes off as bad, low effort how-do-you-do-fellow-kids joke

[@luanfelipe9321]

@@GalluZ i interpreted it differently: he said haram bc that other design is so boring compared to the marvel rivals one, it gotta be haram, capisce?

[@jokered1133]

I don’t get this race for hyper realistic looking models, this is such an awful trend in a lot of games, and when I say hyper realistic, i mean not just in the art-style being realistic, I love me a hood realistic art-style but when these SUPERheroes, emphasis on super, look like your uncle or your dad, or like anyone walking on the street but with a superhero cosplay on, completely misses the point of what superheroes are, they had every reason to make an amazing game but they flopped at step 1, and the rest of the steps, I am sure they have some smart and great people working there but the end product is just a horror show, even from the first trailer I didn’t like how the heroes looked, and then I forgot about the game until it released and flopped, there’s a reason even “realistic” games don’t overdo realism, because real life is boring and average, especially when it’s the most unrealistic story, that being superheroes, which makes me hate these garbage AAA trends that serve no one but their garbage egos, most studios now act like they’re your moral guidance instead of being a game dev studio, I didn’t ask to be lectured, I asked for a good game, so the art gets lost in the art and we got the modern AAA games for the nonexistent modern audience, god bless your soul man, I wish you success in your game development career. Edit: fellow arab here, love from Qatar.

[@SabrPath]

Thanks for the support! I completely agree. Super heroes are supposed to be larger than life and icons of greatness that we're supposed to aspire to be like. But then their life problems are what's supposed to be make relatable, like Peter Parker having trouble with his relationship or having trouble paying rent.

[@humrH2360]

The two big reasons I'm seeing is that first, the AAA games industry _desperately_ wants to appeal to and cozy up to Hollywood and its orbiters. They WANT to be seen in the same internationally venerated pedestal as the western films industry is put on, even though they've been missing the memo that the film industry has been in a rut for years now for all the same reasons as western games. The last few Game Awards are a prime example, having all the same pretentious sanctimony that has turned film events like the Golden Globes into a joke. The second reason is the perceived efficiency. More and more game development tools keep coming out that make "realism" much faster and easier to produce. In particular UE5 comes practically front-loaded with all these fancy-schmancy tools, visual fx, and other assets that are purpose made for "realistic graphics". Meanwhile stylized aesthetics pretty much need to be entirely made from scratch. Take my previous point along with how lazy the AAA industry has become, and of course the out-of-touch execs and wannabe cultural auteurs think that hyper-realistic graphics should be the next logical step, too blinded by their own glamorous delusions to see that it's a colossal money sink and will only result in diminishing returns.

[@SabrPath]

I think those are some legit points you brought up. One of the first promotional videos I saw for Marvel Avengers was a video with the voice actors, and most were well known who have been in big games. It seemed like they were trying to act like the game had an all-star cast, as if they were big hollywood actors.

[@Marbeary]

The game is a hero shooter players want a character that looks like a hero that what is Marvel Rival is giving meanwhile the Marvel Avengers pushes for realism if I want realism I rather log off and go outside. Funny enough professional cosplayers can look better than the Marvel Avengers characters.

[@hassanorisit]

I love how all the chapters have jokes for names

[@SabrPath]

I'm glad someone appreciates my humor. My wife doesn't like my humor and my kids are too young to get half my jokes.

[@Cemic.]

That's the difference when working with artists and not just game developers. Artists strive to create beauty, while game developers often aim for realism. You can see this clearly in indie games, where artists collaborate with game developers. The visual appeal of a game can change significantly if you hire a professional illustrator to create sketches and supervise the game's overall look, regardless of the type of game. This involvement adds a layer of beauty to the project.

[@SabrPath]

This is why I don't think professional artists need to fear AI taking their jobs. There will always be a need for people who understand design, and what makes things appealing. AI will improve, generate betting looking images and become more consistent with the styles, but it can't tell you this character, the weapon, or even this logo looks good or bad because of these reasons.

[@BleakNote]

2016 avengers look like theyre cod skins or something. Comparing them to cosplayers is super accurate, like wow, a bunch of randoms who apparently have superhero powers?

[@wienzard93]

I'm a graphic designer who used to work in a small studio for mobile games. In any form of designs there's always Principle of Design every designer must abide to. From Contrasts (the palette that are analogues, complementary, etc), Accents/Emphasis (the way where clients' eyes supposed to be guide to), Balance (about the symmetric VS asymmetrical), Movement (the way each characters are drawn/poses)... There's many more. You absolutely nailed most of it. Marvel Rivals definitely gets it too. Whoever in charge of the art department knows their thing. And i looked at the 2016 whatever Avengers game, i just feel sad. The colors are sad, grey and depressing. The poses are boring. Visually they don't "speak" at all. I've never seen Avengers looking so "ordinary" and that's not a good thing for superheroes.

[@SabrPath]

Glad you liked the video. "Ordinary" is never a good word to use to describe a super hero. It's an indicator that the designer has failed at making them "super."

[@s1ndrome117]

every rivals design so far is banger after banger, heck I would go as far as to say they look better than the comics designs too

[@SabrPath]

The only one I really don't like is the default for Wolverine. He has elements of Wolverine, but to me that's not how he's supposed to look like. Wolverine is supposed to be short, and should look older, like the face of someone who's in his 40s or 50s.

[@markj1lll]

14:45 that's bucky? I thought it was lord farquad 🤣

[@SabrPath]

😂

[@humrH2360]

Since Sabr doesn't want to cover Black Widow's issues, I will. Avengers BW suffers all the same problems as the rest of the Avengers roster: the color and material are dull and boring, which makes her outfit look cheap and bought off a Halloween store. Her build is similarly uninspiring and too rectangular, making her silhouette almost identical to other characters. There is no dynamism to her design or stance, and she looks like she has no equipment on her. In fact, it's quite fitting she's put next to Hawkeye this because, just like Avengers Hawkeye, she could easily be mistaken for some random NPC just standing around. Rivals BW wasn't afraid of making her look the way she does. While the Avengers design was incredibly non-distinct, Rivals BW also actually gives her equipment, as this time she's engaging in open combat, not espionage. Similarly, while Avengers barely gave her any red, Rivals emphasized her use of red as an accent color, especially for her signature emblem, the lights and wiring on her suit to make it look like it's powered, as well as to draw attention to what people would associate with the, ahem, physical womanly wiles (specifically, her hair, lips, nails, and yes, her torso and hips). She's a spy, so she is not afraid to use her charms as a tool of distraction. She is slim and tight, not only because it looks good, but because it also separates her from the rest of the female roster. Her overall profile is thin, befitting her in-game role as a long-range sniper who needs to minimize how big of a target she is, but the previously mentioned equipment adds some edge to it, befitting her purely offensive role and her emergency tools to fend off anyone who catches up to her. And of course, there's her stance: a confidently stoic contrapposto with a focused and observant gaze to be ready for anything. The result? She is far more dynamic than her wooden, budget-cut counterpart from Avengers. She's packing enough heat without overburdening herself. She is small, but *_not fragile._* She is the kind of woman Spike Spiegel would absolutely love.

[@makanartist]

_3:00_ marvel avengers cap when blurred looks like sportacus lol

[@SabrPath]

I had to look up who that is

[@makanartist]

@SabrPath you never saw lazytown ? ,btw i loved the " no that's haram" segment earned my respect 👏

[@CP9Company]

Black Widow of course isn't haram.

[@szonator]

2016 hawkeye looks sad 😶

[@SabrPath]

He's just happy to be alive

[@MIKEYYYLIKESIT]

They’re more visually dynamic

[@Killakay47]

Hawkeye looks like Jessie Pinkman 😭

[@SabrPath]

🪦💀

[@SabrPath]

Which character designs do you prefer? Marvel Rivals or Avengers 2016? Please show some love to Marvel Avengers 2016!

[@xS1D3SW1P3x]

Marvel's Avengers designs were so bad that this channel and most comments thought it came out in 2016, when in reality it came out in 2020...

[@SabrPath]

It's been pointed out to me that I was wrong. I pinned a comment. Thanks though.

[@RodrigoLuisWindtIdalino]

Hey! As a game dev, you got some good character design principles. However, I believe it`s good not to be stuck to some clichés. Armors doesn't have to be bulky with bevels, for instance. Also, Hulk originally wasn't shredded at all, nor was he in the MCU. So, I think character design needs some broad thinking so we can go beyond the common realm. But yea, I love the Rivals designs. Cheers from a game character concept artist!

[@SabrPath]

Thanks for the support, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I agree with what you're pointing out. I wanted to focus on the fundamentals as to what made the Rivals designs good and the Avengers designs bad. Because for us to go beyond the common realm, it takes experience and an understanding of the fundamental rules. Too many people want to break the rules without understanding the rules, and that's when you get bad designs.

[@plotarmor8017]

Didnt Marvel's avengers come out in 2021 or 2020?

[@SabrPath]

It looks like you are correct, it came out in 2020. I got my information wrong.

[@morganf.1562]

Some people argued that Hulk looks better in Avengers, because he's supposed to look like this typical powerlifter with some fat percentage, like Thor from God of War. I'd rather stay somewhere in the middle. Avenger's hulk definitely looks too round and soft, but Rivals' Hulk looks too heroic(i know it's literally his name)

[@SabrPath]

I think a good way to judge if a design is bad, is by showing it to someone who's not invested into it, like your mom or dad. I shown the Avengers Hulk to my wife, and her first words were "wow, why is he fat?" People like that will give you the most raw feedback.

[@Supior_bs]

Rivals sue storm is a certified baddie

[@AtesSu2006.]

The name choices hilarous

[@SabrPath]

Glad someone looked! 😂

[@lustersplash]

i didnt know they butchered blackpanther so bad in 2016!

[@SabrPath]

🪦

[@danprogaming9424]

Wow you worked on Black Ops 4!? That game had one of my favorite cod multiplayers since any newer cod to date. That game was over hated in my opinion. Campaign got scrapped for blackout, and it was pretty fun. But I feel bad that developers a lot of the time can't put out their full vision of a game and they get rushed. Thank you for working on one of my favorite multiplayer shooters.

[@SabrPath]

I worked in administration, so I didn't directly do anything with the multiplayer. The campaign that got scrapped was really stupid. It was 2v2 and each player had an AI partner so it was 4v4 and it was just really weird. The execs didn't like it during the green light presentation. The team working on it was really bummed that they worked over a year on something that got scrapped.

[@aoihitori]

Body positivity and chasing "Realism" ruined games character designs in the west. I read The Incredible Hulk, Thor Across the Worlds, & Venom Lethal Protector comics (I still had those physical copies) and all of these comics had the Manliest artstyle where their muscles and body proportions are full of testosterone where you could tell they are powerful characters. So it is so funny that CN respects these Comics character designs even more than what the Western media been doing. Really funny knowing America keep calling CN an Anti-America but it turns out CN is way more American than America. 😂

[@SabrPath]

I hate the body positivity movement. Almost 10 years ago I injured my spine and even after surgery I was still limping and still experiencing lots of pain and numbness. At one point I felt like I had to accept I'm going to be a handicap person the rest of my life just so I can be happy. I eventually realized I had to work hard and get active, embracing a growth mindset. My life has changed so much since then. I hate the message of "accept and embrace who you are right now" and instead the message needs to be "become the best version of yourself"

[@al3xplayzmc829]

The timestamps are diabolical

[@SabrPath]

Glad you noticed 😂

[@ACBSeries]

I still can’t believe they scanned me. They deleted the game and I had every suit in the game and they deleted it. They come out in 2026.? I guess I’m gonna have to wait until 2026

[@hgh8848]

It's not necesseraly an animeesque style. I dislike it, when people say that, because they're dismissing classic comic style. Sure it looks a lot like LoL/Arcane. But it is in first place an comic style with that exaggerated proportions and muscles. With that bright colors and that cell-shading look. Modern comics often tend to have an "more realistic" look. But especially the last 3 Hulk runs, Amazing Spider-Man (with Ed McGuinness) or a few more, still have that comicesque look. But look at the 90s comics. They are the pinacle of that look. If you want games for example just take the Dark Stalker Series, the Street Alpha Series or the Marvel vs Capcom Games vom X-Men to MvC2

[@invarkul7831]

Is it me or anything not set up in real setting (like RDR or GTA) looks much better with exaggerated proportions. Look how male and female characters are built in Rivals, insanely stylish and good looking bodies

[@SabrPath]

Exaggerated styles definitely have an advantage since they aren't being compared to reality. Just look at TF2. That game is now ancient, and yes they've updated the engine but it doesn't look bad. Though, there are examples of realistic games that do things to make the game artistic. Deus Ex Human Revolution with it's gold filter and cyber punk aesthetic helps it stand out. I have yet to play Ghost of Tsushimi but I always see screenshots that look fantastic due to the vivid colors and the lighting.

[@mahdiashk5747]

I really appreciate what you're doing it's nice to hear gamer and dev like yourself siding with the gamers, the industry has been in decline since 2016, the entertainment industry whole is the only industry that you see developers insulting and hating their customers without being fired or held accountable at least, and because these developers who are in fact just activists/or folks that hired base on DEI or gender not merit can't make an innovative game to spread their political ideologies nonesense because they are just bunch of losers complainers whining children, you see them breaching our old lovable IPs that already have fans hoping they can spread their nonesense or LGTV4K Bullshit that nobody cares about. We want Immersion and escapism. Not preaching. We just want to have fun. If they can't do that we will be more than happy to see them end up next on chopping block. We will gatekeep our hobby until they put us gamers as priority.

[@SabrPath]

Thanks for the support. I think a lot of it is common sense but these echo chambers are training people to abandon common sense. Also, from my experience in the gaming industry, I think the majority of game devs are people who just want to do their jobs and mind their own business, so they don't speak up. This is why I didn't celebrate the mass layoff. The people who are in charge of the bad choices either keep their jobs or transfer to another studio, while people like me who are at the bottom are impacted the most.

[@samturner6061]

I dunno about superior. Experimental, for sure. The hybrid role design feels kinda toxic. To plop that in the middle of a format that kinda demands the holy trinity and cohesion. You get a lot of lone wolves going off doing their own thing. In a more competitive setting, I'm not seeing characters really flex their dual roles. Healers are demanded to be healing most of the time. So it feels like, the fact that Loki can actually kick some butt as a stealth wizard assassin, is put there purely to entertain people in a non-competitive setting - where it also breeds toxicity - as our healer isn't healing xDD Likewise for tanks. I would have thought high level Hulk play would be him terrorising the backline and having punching matches with the tanks, but no. He actually just camps out around his backline, waiting to peel for them. All that HULK SMASH!!! Going crazy leaping in the air to grab Iron Man while your team fights on the objective - out the window in a competitive setting. Again showing to me that the game doesn't really operate the way the characters are designed. Visually the characters are designed extremely well. It's very smart of them to give the girls big booties and nice boobies. Sex sells, and the majority of gamers are bored by the modern trend of realistic videogame characters. Some of the designs are a bit weird, but there are enough skins that I'm sure everyone will find a look they want.

[@funfries3857]

the problem of realism her isnt in differences of artstyle, it's matter of designder not knowint to intergrate creative realistic look, that is the problem. the body proportion also is a problem in Square Enix avengers game, it look suck.

[@SabrPath]

Yeah. The realism could still work with better costume designs. Also, they could have gone with better proportions with Thor and Hulk and still keep it realistic looking. As I mention in the video, they could have gone with a physique that's more like Ronnie Coleman for Thor.

[@funfries3857]

@@SabrPath tbh even Captain America should be buff, he looks like a lean father figure here, and the design looks like a cheap home made costume DIY design

[@SabrPath]

Yes. Someone left me a comment saying it's not fair comparing the two styles, but even if I put the Marvel Avengers next to screenshot of the MCU actors, the Marvel Avengers costumes still look bad in comparison to the real life costumes.

[@funfries3857]

@@SabrPath style is a different thing, but yeah, the design is still bad, even Ironman in Square Enix version is just meh. i am surprise that Square Enix literally got bad design for Marvel, when Square Enix literally have DC or Marvel figure design on steroid, just look at their play arts kai, i mean i dont like to much busy looking design, i like it looking balance and clean, but just look at them, the design is so different and creative, it is like day and night.

[@humrH2360]

@@funfries3857 SquEnix was the publisher, not the developer. The developer was Crystal Dynamics, which is a western company.

[@GarviHere]

hey quick question, is warzone cooked?

[@SabrPath]

I haven't been keeping up with COD after I left Treyarch, but from my observation, it seems like it's still very popular but it's just going for a completely different audience than original COD fans. Not only in tone, but in gameplay as well, especially with BO6 introducing sprinting in all directions.

[@PotatoHead-m7f]

It came out in 2020

[@SabrPath]

Yeah, someone pointed out I was wrong. I pinned a comment. Thanks for letting me know.

[@practically_eagle]

good video man, however, don't call Black Widow a Widowmaker ripoff... Black Widow has existed for DECADES longer

[@SabrPath]

It's a joke. For Blizzard President, Mike Ybarra, recently went to twitter, complaining that Marvel Rivals is a ripoff of Overwatch, and even said Black Widow is a blatant ripoff of Widowmaker.

[@practically_eagle]

@SabrPath there's NO WAY he GENUINELY said that 💀💀💀💀

[@SabrPath]

Look it up! He went into an unhinged rant including all that, and even said NetEase and Tencent are the same thing.

[@ioriduarte4236]

Just a head's up: Mike is no longer an executive at blizzard, he left before making the tweet (which he deleted). Still pretty fucking stupid

[@Biajuuu]

He did said that ​@@practically_eagle

[@czms922]

Can we make sure that realistic super hero games don't make the market again

[@SabrPath]

I don't think realism is the problem, since Spider-Man PS4 and the Batman Arkham games go for realism. The problem is lack of creative direction and understanding of how to make the designs work with the style.

[@BleakNote]

Marvel Rivals has:... Captain America 🇺🇸 Iron Man 🚀 The Incredible Hulk 🏋️‍♂️ Black Widow 🕷️ Hawkeye 👁️ Thor the God of Thunder ⚡ Spiderman 🕸️ Black Panther 🐈‍⬛ Avengers 2016 has:... Captain Average American 👮‍♂️ Aluminum Man 🦿 The Indigenous Bulk 🧌 Woke Widow 💅 Purple Guy 👾 Thud the Special Needs Cashier 🧠 Peter Pecker 🦟 Gimp Suit Gary 🤐

[@zillorannusgaming]

ngl i only looked at the cap one and im already leaving this cus its talking about the art style cus like no shit your gonna know who it is if you squint or blur them cus marvel rivals goes for a comic style while avengers doesnt crazy enough grab mcu captain america and put him next to avengers then blur them gaurantee you, itd be alot harder to tell which is which unless if your going against smth thats comic styled like no duh your gonna know who it is ITS BLOODY COMIC STYLED not like their gonna throw in super ultra realistic captain america into a comic universe how about put a picture of a tarbosaurus and a tyrannosaurus then blur them, i understand needing it to be appealing but trying to give a point to a game over a comic style is dumb im honestly to scared to look at the rest cus of this SINGLURE POINT im not even trying to say the games 100% good cus ima be honest it wasnt the best but its MENT TO BE REALISTIC not giant proportions with bright ass colors n massive silhouette modok and iron man are like the only exception cus if your gonna go for a realistified comic character you have to get it from the source and how they feel what their core features are or how they act or look or ect or else if you just grabbed idk galactis then just made him into a small normal man who owns a bakery whose pretty chill and has no powers and loves nature then thats not the character at all thats someone completely different its smth marvel struggles with in movies n shows sometimes but like modok's got a giant ass head thats the exception cus thats what he looked like tho he propably wasnt entirely like the comic counter part it was still there n noticable dare i say my favorite version of modok and why i come to love em now, also iron mans suit is red n gold, not to mention the idea that cap you know that one guy who fought in wars didnt exactly wanna wear bright red white n blue ona battle feild even if it wasnt war, still has more military characteristics then whatever rivals went for, not hating on it but im tryna figure out if tony stark made his suit or sum shit cus it just doesnt feel right for him its just too techy then im used too you can argue at the end of avengers he wears tech there but its not exaggerated cus like you mentioned the fucking bright colors lol personally if i were to make the models id atleast dim the colors a lil down n make him slimmer so he doesnt look like the fucking hulks lost cousin, yes i wrote a whole ass book cus how stupid a point was, hate me or love me, it was a stupid ass point "they all have just a very basic human shape" NAH REALLY!? dude the more i watch the more the grave gets dug i dont see any points "immediatly tries to explain how dull a human looks" MATE HIS SUIT WAS BASE MORE AROUND MILITARY SHIT MILITARY SHIT AINT GONNA LOOK LIKE THE SUPERHERO YOU WANT. ngl it'd be petty if i say this but like the idea you dont find military like wear anywhere around the hero sections crazy speaking that if we were to go irl fucking real and i mean REAL heros wore stuff like that they werent wherin shit like big bright red n gold suits of armor or like bright red white n blue or or or like red n blue if ye wanna throw in spider-man like dude really the more i watch the more i lose my sanity ah yes lemme where a suit that helps people guide their eyes up so maybe my enemies can see that i have a gaping face hole in my mask, again back to the military shit, they werent bright green n brown if there even is a bright brown their made to camoflouge sum even made for disguising as bushes like bruh i watched like 1 critisim on iron man n like... just bc your rich doesnt mean you gotta flex you have a suit that has jets on his feet. istg this whole idea of critisizing avengers style cus its not like rivals is crazy i just cant

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

tf2 mogs ofc.

[@dablazingbryan5559]

Bucky was in Avengers?!

[@SabrPath]

I suppose so? I never played it

[@mattm8870]

He was 3(4th counting Spiderman) and last character to be added at the end of 2022.

[@dablazingbryan5559]

Jesus. Forget flying under the radar, I didn’t hear a THING about him until just now.

[@alprazolam1446]

Weird asl you just skipped all the females designs because it’s “haram”

[@thequeenvsslime1]

trully a MARVELOUS video that RIVALS the augorithm ...keep it up read more...

[@sriharisai4030]

I don’t think you get the difference between stylized and realistic art styles. Comparing ‘Marvel Rivals’ to ‘Marvel’s Avengers’ is like comparing apples to oranges. One’s vibrant and exaggerated, the other’s aiming for realism. Marvel’s Avengers should be compared to the movies, while Rivals should be compared to the comics. Maybe figure out the basics before making these wild comparisons.

[@SabrPath]

Marvel Avengers designs would still look bad if I compare to the movies. None of the analysis would change. Costume design, lack of asymmetry, silhouette, pose, Ironman's texture not looking like real metal, Bucky's camo pants looking too busy. Even Hulk would still look fat in comparison to MCU Hulk. All those points would stay the same.

[@juanyz5351]

Avengers version latinoamérica 😂

[@SabrPath]

🤣

[@shadow-clay4619]

aleykum salam brother

[@SabrPath]

Walaikum salaam!

[@Ken-bz7kj]

Bs review 😂

[@SabrPath]

Best review! 11/10, would play again!

[@andrewkrylov1501]

It is nonsensical to compare two different styles like this. Realistic and cartoonish. Like apples and oranges. I personally prefer realistic more. Though it should have been done with better quality.

[@NuttachaiTipprasert]

That's not the point of the video. It's about character design and it can be applied to both realistic and cartoonish designs. This video is quite informative and it aligns with what the other character designers mentioned about this topic in the other videos I've watched before. You can learn to avoid the design pitfalls easier by learning from both good and bad examples and that's about it. And don't let me start with the "realistic" part. As he said in the video, the metals don't look metallic, the fabric looks cheap, and alien wearing jeans, really? Can you call that realistic? And who tf wanted to see a realistic design from superheroes? That's in itself an oxymoron since superheroes are superheroes because they are out of this world.

[@SabrPath]

Can't blame it all on the style. I go over many aspects of the costumes, pose, colors, and use of textures. I could put the Marvel Avengers characters next to the MCU photos and they would still look bad.

[@andrewkrylov1501]

@@NuttachaiTipprasert @SabrPath, It doesn't change the fact that the comparison doesn't work. I doesn't mean the video is not useful. Also I said I prefer realistic option but with better quality, not with the quality it was done. Anyway I can't find such cartoonish characters attractive. Funny - yes, attractive - no.

[@JastonJ-49]

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[@SabrPath]

Walaikum salaam. Thanks for the support!