GAME ENGINE DEVELOPER Reacts to ROAD TO PS5 (Part 3)

[@TheCherno]

Hope you enjoyed this little reaction/review trilogy! What do you think was the most exciting part of The Road to PS5 presentation?

[@Rijads]

Definitely the part about new technologies, not just the increased numbers, and making developers lives easier by not making them use everything PS5 has to offer in their first game.

[@dangiambrone7350]

The teardown will be the full on consumer reveal; Road to PS5 was primarily held for developers. Most exciting part - the hardware surrounding the SSD and how tightly the SSD is integrated into the system and finally, a next gen leap in audio. If you have the time, it would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on the hardware in the Xbox SX and what their different approaches will mean for the games on each platform. Great job btw!

[@paoloroses]

This is great content, very much above the average!

[@pxman1946]

Telling my friend a PC will never get this kind of throughput until 2023 :)

[@asimb0mb]

@@pxman1946 Except even Mark Cerny in this presentation admits he expects PCs will already have better throughput towards the end of the year.

[@mlrnagoraplaystop4555]

I know you say you don't want to become a "reaction channel" in your first one (the ROAD TO PS5 Part 1) but honestly, these are great, I've learned a ton. You explain things well, let us, the players, know why certain things are important and make it all relevant. Keep up the good work, I subscribed after watching the Reaction to the Unreal engine, and I'm staying for the road to PS5 videos, keep up the good work.

[@TheCherno]

I don't mind giving my thoughts on various things, this has been rather fun to be honest, but I obviously need to balance that with creating original content first and foremost instead of just commenting on what other people have made. I am a creator after all! 😊

[@Maltry]

@@TheCherno I am also of the same opinion. I subbed after the reaction to Unreal and stayed for the others. I would also love it if you taught a few coding languages (Java, Python, R), you have a very natural way of explaining things. I could happy sit though 10s of hours of you teaching. :)

[@vamidicreations]

I agree with what you are saying. It would be beneficial for developers out there as well. I for instance already knew a little bit about these concept, but it is nice to see what other think about these concepts and what ps5 is bringing to a developer.

[@lewisnorth1188]

@@Maltry He's got a full series of C++ lessons

[@molehansman247]

This is more of an evaluation/explanation for the average person. When I think reaction I think of somebody saying OK every 2 minutes and eating chips

[@a7uiop]

"Send ear pics" - Sony (2020)

[@MostInterestingManInTheWrld]

Not that crazy when everyone is sending face pics to snap chat

[@adev3028]

Actually we already do that with their headphones. if you own sonys wh-100mx3's for example it uses 360 reality audio for music and you have to take a pic of both your ears to "optimise" the 360 reality audio. the app does it for you, they dont get sent to a person

[@miz6294]

@@adev3028 wow I don't know that cool

[@9yearoldepicgamersoldier129]

@@adev3028 Didn't know that. Kinda creepy tbh lol

[@spicynachos2762]

Definitely going to be sending in my ears

[@Sparrow-Music]

It honestly makes me feel so relieved seeing that it really looks like Sony went all out in terms of the consumer and ALSO the developers for PS5. I haven't been this excited about a new console in a long time. I never get consoles at launch but the PS5 might be the one to break that.

[@HereticDuo]

I will definitely but that choice is down to the fact the og PSVR will be compatible and several devs said they'd be doing an early patch to take advantage of the PS5 to improve VR visuals.

[@alvintollah]

Man, I just wish Microsoft would also do this with Series X, so we can see the different take they take on, if there are any.

[@EhrineAshbark]

Mark Cerny took a similar approach with the launch of the PS4 and it showed then as well. Developers loved it (especially compared to the PS3) and for a long time it was clearly the "better" console when compared to the Xbox (you could see via direct comparisons of games that came out on both). The later refresh in the generation with the Pro and the X muddied the waters a lot.

[@Ben-Rogue]

I'd disagree that "Sony went all out in terms of the consumer". Not having PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility and not working on PS3 backwards compatibility is a real thumb in the eye, especially considering how hard MS is working in backwards compatibility. I'd like to see them offer a PS5 'Pro' with full backwards compatibility, even if it means having the older systems hardware built in. I'd gladly pay another $100-$150 for this functionality, if I could keep my PS3 and select older titles alive and playable in 4k, and I'm sure a lot of others would too

[@littv1610]

Ben Rogue You wanna play old games keep your old system. Let them focus on making this the best system

[@manmohan_manoj]

14:34 the guy went into crazy jared mode so quick, "you know the ememy is THERE!!, AND YOU TAKE HIM OUT!!!"

[@shreksthongg]

That feeling when your audio is so immersive it breaks immersion

[@mazin9193]

My thoughts exactly haha. If it actually makes you look behind IRL to identity the source, that'd be more immersion breaking than it is immersive. But it's probably something we'll adapt to quickly.

[@vitiate7750]

It won't be cuz of adrenaline

[@Rocksteady72a]

Audio in games is "appreciated" the same way that sound design is "appreciated" in film. That is to say, nobody seems to notice it when it's done well, only when something isn't quite working. You can kind of see this in a lot of people's reaction to the audio segment of the Road to PS5 presentation, even though personally, I think this may be the biggest advancement in immersion that we may be seeing for the next-gen hardware.

[@MrMoviePhoneEx]

It’s a double edged sword, I work in film and television, the audio is usually around 60% of what makes a project work - people may or may not notice it when it’s there, but they sure as hell will notice when it’s not, if it’s the wrong choice, if it’s cheap stock, if it’s... Etc. The fact that both companies are trying to pay serious attention to audio is really exciting, the customer won’t appreciate it, but it will be an integrate part of their play experience all the same. The trick will be getting the average consumer to invest further into any set of speakers or headphones that can take advantage of it.

[@yotty97]

It's much more than "appreciated" if you have a surround sound system

[@thegamestas]

@@yotty97 I have a 5.1 planning on going to a 5.1.2 at some point. I know sony is rolling their own 3d audio and not using atmos but Im still stoked. BF5 sounded great on ps4 with my 5.1

[@Manmade023]

99

[@MichaelBabcock]

I certainly appreciate good audio in the sense that I notice things like dynamic range being done well but yes for the most part, audio simply has to be right or it is noticeably wrong. I very much appreciate developers (Naughty Dog comes to mind) who make the effort to have audio that sounds right and comes from the right direction.

[@jaykelz1528]

I’m not gonna lie, I may not be versed at all in your field or understand what is actually being said, but I’m always intrigued by those who know these kinds of things and making it concise for us! It’s like learning a new language LOL

[@kontro113dkhaoz2]

No, it just means he could be blowing smoke up your ass, and you'll be like "interesting..."... Do your research...

[@Ample17]

It really is it's own language. I get maybe 30-40 percent of what is beeing said 😂

[@neronah7349]

@@kontro113dkhaoz2 Research someonelse that could be blowing smoke up his ass. It's lose-lose, so might as well listen to a expert game developer explain it.

[@nathane.9286]

Its the language of relationships!

[@joi0001]

@@kontro113dkhaoz2 damage control is a kid's game

[@garyleavens885]

Mark Cerny was playing video games before there were video games back on the PDP 11. This is the culmination of watching his brother working on electronics when he was a kid. Now he is the Master Architect. His brother must be proud.

[@ScrewFearMe]

The three biggest are Raytracing, 3D Audio and the SSD The graphics will get better over time but those three are the biggest improvements that were needed for immersion.

[@Lakross101]

I couldn't help but smile when he pulled up Dead Space, it's so nice that Sony knows the direction they're aiming for when it comes to the effect of all this focus on 3D audio. That exact example is a perfect illustration of the kind of improvements I'd want in a game's sound, where instead of turning my character to the side until the music picks up dynamic to know where the enemy is, I'd already know that the necromorph is at 5 o'clock about 10 meters away. Audio gets me so hype.

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

Someone chasing you in a horror game while you have 3D audio.... I think I would piss myself

[@frowy1]

almost imperceptable heavy breathing, just behind you...

[@jimmieweathers]

I got chills just thinking about it. Would increase the creep factor, tenfold

[@bissy97]

Imagine playing PT with 3D audio.

[@ArtrexisLives]

@@bissy97 NOPE

[@15firekid]

with good 3d audio technology, you could have a VR horror game that takes into consideration the shape of your room using sensors in the headset then using that data to make it sound like something is actually in the room with you.

[@aaronh248]

When everything is taken together it feels like the PS5 was built with a design philosophy around Immersion. No load screens, ability to seamlessly play a game from start to finish. Like God of War but without the design team having to create all those windy boat rides, crawl spaces and walks through the fast travel portals. It'll be a single second of something and then boom, there. Mix that with the capabilities of the 3D audio. I mean damn. This chip has enough power to actually handle 5000 PSVR sound sources. That's kind of crazy. So it definitely has enough power to handle 200+ more complex sound sources and the equations that go along with them. But that audio is going to play a MASSIVE role in Immersion and Sony really went as far as they could with it, even building custom hardware. Then you have the more advanced controller with much improved feedback and adaptive triggers and all that. So everything about what is happening on screen will be geared toward an immersive experience. Resident Evil 8 or 9? Forget about it lol. You'll be looking around your room the whole time wondering where all the banging is coming from. Can't wait. This generation of games is going to be absolutely amazing especially from Sony Studios. Can't even imagine what they are doing with the next God of War or Horizon or Ratchet and Clank or any of the other dozens of games

[@PierrePotonnier]

"Even building custom hardware" Remember when it was the usual and people expected it?

[@aaronh248]

@@PierrePotonnier Yup. That stopped with the PS4 but thankfully it is back in full force with the PS5. So much custom greatness in this machine it is kind of nuts.

[@o0HawkEyesMihawk]

@Lionhart thats because all the games are designed based on hdd not ssd. The only game that is designed based on ssd is Star Citizen and there is a video comparison on KZbin that shows a difference in frame rate if you use hdd or ssd.

[@MansMan42069]

@Lionhart In a way, PC multiplats will be holding back developers for the simple fact that HDDs still exist in enough numbers that it is considered the lowest common denominator.

[@cunnyman]

@@MansMan42069 lol PC holding back next gen console Fanboys are gonna be pissed

[@michaelc9590]

My biggest takeaway and conclusion from the console design is that it’s designed to reduce developer workloads and increase creative output through the entire production chain. When looking at the hardware in combination with Unreal 5 it seems like it’s specifically designed to draw in high CGI assets, environments, models, and sounds directly into a game environment and get straight to the gameplay design rather than much of the development spend on optimization and technical challenges. I also see this completely changing the game industry where the art teams become almost entirely external. Possible even hiring Hollywood CGI teams or having major collaborations with movie studios for games and sharing assets. The platform imho has the potential to create as true industry and development shift in the way games are created and designed.

[@njnexgen]

This is well said.

[@whereismycrewyo]

It'll also reduce long production cycles and possibly crunch time too. If Final Fantasy 7 remake Part 2 uses UE5 we might see it being released before our grandchildren turns 21 😁

[@aideniridescence1437]

Well put.

[@aideniridescence1437]

@@whereismycrewyo I hope you're right. This gen feels just a bit lacking, at least comparing Sony's Santa Monica's output. We only got one GoW on the PS4 while the PS3 had two.

[@9yearoldepicgamersoldier129]

That would honestly be super cool!

[@crazycatgamer21]

I thought I understood the PS5 video when it first came out.. that was of course before I watched yours ! So informative, with a bit of personal experience and expectation. I'd say 10/10 for you my friend !

[@thekaizer1789]

I just love how you simplify complex things. You got a new sub my friend.

[@LegendaryDreamslayer]

The Teardown for PS5 hasn't been announced yet so that will be in the hopefully near future. I am particularly impressed by the design of the PS5 as a whole. I think that it is both very powerful and very well balanced for its price range. I think it will really push the envelope on what game developers can accomplish in their games. The audio in particular is exciting to me however since I prefer to game without headphones on but I don't have a high end speaker system. Having higher quality audio without more investment on my part will be very significant.

[@jaimerivera7872]

Hopefully this June 4th is the complete tear down the ps5.

[@adamskyj69]

@@furtalance_x I read a rumour that Sony, when they show the PS5 itself, intend on using a factory produced final model because the cooling system is that radical for a console, they fear doubts from their shareholders that they can mass produce such exotic cooling for the price. I'm hyped so let's hope they show it off, even if it's a final signed off prototype.

[@hariesch_8015]

Wait, how do you know the price?

[@Wingnut353]

@@hariesch_8015 consoles have to fall in a perfect performance/price valley or.... they flop. So, the price of upcoming consoles is pretty easy to predict.

[@jaimerivera7872]

There will not be a June 4th event anymore

[@shawng4886]

With PS5, it’s a sum of all parts, and I think that’s what I’m most excited for. Jim Ryan made it clear that with PS5 they’re focusing on next-gen games and that’s also exciting. Little or no load times, speed of the console, visuals potential, sound; it’s obviously a culmination of years of development that’s according to some people is literally going to push not only the gaming industry, but PC design forward as well. It’s crazy to think about that. And not to shit on the Series X but, the PS5 seems like a MUCH higher feat of engineering. The entire idea of the PS5 just sounds so revolutionary it’s really exciting to think about what devs are going to do with it!! Can’t wait for June 4th!!!

[@Criiies]

It's pretty interesting, seeing the contrast. The series x seems to be a simple huge spec upgrade to the Xbox 1, whereas the ps5 is pushing new boundaries with comparatively less power

[@EhrineAshbark]

I think a lot of this shows the difference between the DNA of the two companies. Microsoft is, at it's heart, a software company, while Sony is a hardware company. This shows as well with the current generation where it's easy to argue that (at least at launch), the Xbox probably had the nicer front end for the OS, but the PS4 was the more technologically adept console. With the Series X, Microsoft have chased raw power while also going for the best current technologies out there (i.e. the current standard for SSD storage in a PC), while Sony have tried to think beyond that and bring forward new technologies. Raw power can only achieve so much. Out of the gate, I suspect not that much will differentiate them, although the raw power of the Series X will make some cross platform titles perform better there, but as time goes on and developers really get to grips with the potential of storage running that fast, combined with the audio engine (and thus being able to farm off far more of the traditionally CPU bound audio work), the PS5 has the potential to create some really stunning things, in much the same way as the PS3 eventually did.

[@theuniversewithin74]

Yah, although I'm no expert, it feels like MS just stacked high end components off the shelf, whereas Sony has a much deeper and broader vision. No doubt both consoles will be awesome, but judging by the philosophy of Sony, I think they offer a better platform to develop for. All this nonsense about TERAFLOPS is just a giant distraction for people who have no clue what they're talking about. Can't wait for Thursday, I think Sony will make a big splash. The XsX "gameplay" reveal will seem like a footnote in comparison.

[@gregsteele806]

@@Criiies The Xbox 1 feels more like they're mass producing a decent gaming PC and putting it in a console shell.

[@EhrineAshbark]

@@theuniversewithin74 I hope that is the case on Thursday. If nothing else, the reaction to the Xbox "gameplay reveal" should have made it clear what peoples expectations are. In the past Sony have done very well at reading the tone and reacting (queue the "how to share games on PS4" video years ago), so I suspect they've taken that into account. With the, probably correct, rumours that PS5 will cost more to _buy_ than Xbox (although maybe not to make), they need to capitalise on reveal momentum and convince people it's a better _value_ console if they want to steal the early market.

Timing of this is like a remedy, thank you so much for this.

[@jazznblues9496]

I don't want to call my self an audiophile, I don't have speakers littered around my living room. I do however play guitar, ukulele and piano, so I am a lover of music/sound. And at times when I play a PS4 or PC game, the sound feels like a lower priority, like it was just stuck on. Personally, sound always impacts me over visuals. It's nice to be walking through a forest in the rain, but for me, it's nicer to be walking through a forest in the rain with my eyes closed. I don't need the visuals to take me there if the audio is up to scratch. Anyway, thanks for the video and your thoughts. Be well.

[@theWanAndOnly]

man, even a game where all you do is close your eyes and listen to the world around you... a forest in Pandora, a pirate ship attacking a Kraken... i would buy that i think

[@TheFirstRealChewy]

I feel like most console gamers don't appreciate sound. The biggest driver is visuals. Eye candy sells games more than anything else. Strong gameplay keeps gamers playing. Everything else just supports it.

[@z-rossi3672]

Haha ya the people who claim to be audiophiles ruin the word. Im really excited to see how they use the new Unreal Engine with sounds and music. I want them to start making places feel more alive

[@evilformerlys4704]

@@z-rossi3672 Using Unreal Engine 5 for sound is not going to be better than utilizing the hardware sound devices, software driven sounds easy into rendering budget that's why Sony put the dedicated chip in there. Hopefully Unreal Engine 5 can offload to bespoke hardware to better utilize the system strengths freeing up resources for visuals and other important work.

[@jimmyoo]

I was certainly picking up on realism I've never heard in a game before when playing through Half-Life: Alyx. Steam Audio is incredible, I recommend giving it a look, and I wish more games were going this far for audio. 3D placement of sounds was of course realistic, but, beyond that, things like gunshots really sounded like they were interacting with the acoustics of the environment. It wasn't just a static, high quality reverb, it was fully dynamic, and that was very impressive to me. Walking around and hearing the characteristics of these sounds changing realistically did so much for my immersion. I hope that next gen games go that far, and that they don't stop at head relative 3D localization and convolution reverb.

[@Orain88]

I didn't realize what true quality audio could do for a gaming experience until PSVR. The audio implementation just seems like pure wizardry in certain games.

[@yacchaga]

Devs: "I don't like numbers." Gamers: *surprised pikachu face

[@HereticDuo]

That's because when you understand where those numbers fit into the overall equation of a system they themselves are pretty meaningless to actual performance. The memory speeds it's going to hit will impact actual visuals more then the better gpu.

[@DeesBees85]

Fuzzy Duo you Sony fanboys are hilarious with this shit

[@Disciple_82]

Dan Becker you sound insecure. No worries your favorite plastic box will be fine.

[@DeesBees85]

MarriedMan I don’t have a favorite plastic box, but thanks. Just seeing people immediately embrace this argument that specs no longer matter the moment the PS5 specs aren’t the best is hilariously transparent.

[@jonathan130]

Dan Becker Xbox fanboys are worse... Oh boy...

[@markroberts1049]

What amazing is how cerny remember all this stuff to say without a hiccup

[@kylehammon2304]

He was reading a tele prompt. Didn't need to remember it

[@SloeGin-ip1xk]

And not one erm or ahh. He’s an amazing speaker. Could listen to him forever.

[@markroberts1049]

Phillip Doherty he knows his craft like got to give it to him

[@CastleKingside]

Yeah, it's not about him reading off a teleprompter. It's about how knowledgeable he is with the material, that he never skips a beat. I met him at e3, and dude is so smart. I only wish I was smart enough to ask for a photo with him. Damn.

[@Bobbias]

I love that were seeing custom hardware being designed in ways that are both easy to work with (or outright transparent to the developer) while delivering some pretty serious gains in areas that will really affect games.

[@ballbag290]

Ps5 makes me moister then an oyster.

[@mikeymoola8265]

lmao an oyster

[@KapitanWasTaken]

than*

[@ballbag290]

@@KapitanWasTaken cheers 👍 I've always had trouble with the big words.

[@somnia3423]

@@ballbag290 lol😂can relate

[@photonboy999]

@@ballbag290 , Gibibits. Regular english grammar and spelling can be a challenge, but try being in the computer World.

[@wanshurst2416]

Thanks that you managed to release it before the Sony event on thursday. Really appreciate your effort

[@anglosaxon9599]

The average computer science student is my profile picture right now.

[@VivekYadav-ds8oz]

Lmao so true! I was like "... Yeah.. cool.."

[@iKatOverLord]

🤣

[@neronah7349]

Lol

[@JoeShmowYo]

Stuntz Bunny that has been my discord profile pic for years now, so i’d say that’s accurate

[@SWEGME]

Lol i just graduated and that is still my face!

[@DeshaunXD]

You're a great translator to explain all things tech and engine/game design to common folk. Road to PS5 became a lot more interesting as you explained everything. Clear and concise.

[@TSOmac]

The thing that excites me about the presentation is everything! The fact that they weren't just looking to turn up the volume i.e. just make a more powerful console, they were focused on innovation. They're approach of asking questions on how they could improve things and make the next generation a true next generation, spawned so many cool ideas for the hardware creation and in turn will do the same for the software creation too. I can't wait to see what's on the horizon (no pun intended)... Thanks for the videos, I've really enjoyed watching your informed take on them and I'm looking forward to seeing your take on their tear down video, which is apparently coming soon.

[@MansMan42069]

@Lionhart My condolences to your parents for having given birth to someone as stupid as you.

[@hausy]

I would 100% get my ear scanned for this

[@alrxanderwillis2474]

The most exciting part was you reacting to it and explaining in better for us to understand and the chance the ull react to the reveal june 4th :)

[@othman0077]

I appreciate your fast response to part 3 thank you great job, I am now very excited to PS5 looking forward to the future of gaming reaction on 4/June and good luck!

[@luckyfooty0994]

It’s got delayed cuz of riots

[@Dante3085]

Next video: "GAME ENGINE DEVELOPER Reacts to C++ EXCEPTIONS ( GONE WRONG!!!!! )"

[@somnia3423]

(gone sexual) 😲

[@RockSolitude]

"GAME ENGINE DEVELOPER EPIC REACTION! [GONE SEXUAL] (COPS CALLED?) SOCIAL EXPERIMENT | 100% REAL NOT FAKE

[@somnia3423]

@@RockSolitude lmao

[@jeaninternet1066]

Im french and i didn't see anyone on the french youtube explain as well like you. I saw the three parts, it was very interesting, and I understood you well despite my not terrible english . Finaly a guy who understands the console specification, thank you for the work.

[@GMMXX80]

So, this is exactly what Mark Cerny wanted, and this is what makes this video (or series of videos) so compelling to watch. Cerny wanted a gaming console by and for developers that want to create to make gamers happy and introduce and innovative new hardware AND EXPERIENCES. So, it's interesting to watch this because Cerny is now talking to a programmer that doesn't develop for their hardware. You get the sense this programer has plenty of education and experience that he follows this and points out that (like the Kraken, for example) is older been around a while but is perhaps more efficiently used on a console but all of this gets him really thinking, the wheels are turning in his head and he gets all of this. That's the goal, this guy buys into what Sony is taking about because Cerny perfectly speaks this guy's language. I would dare argue that Microsoft doesn't. Microsoft created the operating system that powers the tools used on a PC to develop his creation, but the console has its own way of speaking C or C+. It really appears this guy's actually intrigued and would like to try his hand at PS5 development and just because PC has no limits, just about, other than the hardware consumers have, PS5 is consistent and, again, Cerny speaks this guy's language where developers are just frustrated with Microsoft, Sony gets it, they're not all suits, like Microsoft are, Sony are game developers themselves trying to make things easy, Cerny is and was a game developer, he gets it. Kutaragi was a brilliant hardware man, not so much a developer so he was too far ahead and developers had to learn and catch up. Good job Cerny, this guy's understands and you can see in his face, he's actually impressed.

[@MrYurMomm]

Thank fuck you didnt wait another week to upload this part, bless you fam

[@beezer5623]

i remember when I first played Medal Of Honor on PSX, the sound in that game was just incredible. The music and the special fx where mind blowing back then. Still are fantastic to this day.

[@BigALBoomer]

That opening D Day landing level was so good I remember it well

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

10:30 me too. Audio is huge. Elder scrolls 3 Morrowind is still one of my favorite games of all times, largely due to the incredible atmosphere it created through audio. Anno 1602 is another excellent example.

[@EversonBernardes]

Dead Space, that Cerny used as an example, really sold its atmosphere through the audio design, limited as it was to basically a simple stereo setup.

[@cipley]

@@EversonBernardes Not Cerny, though. It's brought up by the Sony guy to be the example

[@EversonBernardes]

@@cipley Cerny is the Sony guy. Mark Cerny.

[@MansMan42069]

@@cipley lol Cerny is the guy doing the presentation. Cherno is the guy reacting.

[@MrHunadam]

3D audio is huge! I remember a 3D sound effect where someone knocks on the door, my soul left my body for a few days after hearing that..

[@davidmcnight87]

Thank you so much for this. I have learned more from these reaction videos than I have ever in all my years of following systems. I hope you enjoy doing them because I would like to see more of these types of things. Cheers!

[@xdaywolf]

I don't know how but with everything ps5 finally coming out you've become one of my favorite youtubers. Thank you

[@drtydawg73]

i think the audio could be the biggest noticable change for the everyday gamer. i cant wait for this reveal on the 4th. :-)

[@mipe3844]

Sound in the UE5 Demo on PS5 hardware was REALLY great (listen to it with headphones!) and truely drove the overall impression home - I wonder if that has already been a direct effect of the Tempest engine stuff?

[@kontro113dkhaoz2]

Wow.... No.... Tempest will be a gimmick very much like the touchpad on the ps4 controller.... Sony always tries to push a new medium with their consoles in hopes it takes off, but, no, Unreal 5 has its own 3D audio solution that will just be easier for devs to use.... Xbox also has a very similar chip, but it will be more compatible with different software

[@mipe3844]

@@kontro113dkhaoz2 Cerny made it very clear that while Sony undertakes some heavy proprietory R&D regarding 3D audio software, the Tempest Engine itself is a custom designed (but freely usable) hardware unit that is just specifically great at handling (any) audio algorithms you throw at it. The idea is that (engine) developers at EPIC (and elsewhere) can run their own 3D audio code (and, indeed, other stuff that profits from it) on the Tempest engine to achieve great audio without putting any additional stress on CPU resources etc. Can we just appreciate that this holds great potential without turning it into a PS5 vs XBOX discussion? The fact that PS5 seems to have great audio capabilities does not mean that the new XBOX is bad at it ...

[@kontro113dkhaoz2]

@Krish Garg first of all, of course numbers matter, that is why we run benchmarks when the console is out , and they will prove it..... numbers dont matter when its comparing 2 totally different architectures, and like different CPU's from different generations, but that is not the case.... these consoles are totally identical as far as that, and that is when numbers matter.....go do your research and quit letting these mobile "devs" tell you what you want to hear..... He's not stupid, he knows the views are in making Sony seem "better than the raw numbers" and you all eating it up and letting forward compatability get away from you..... next next gen, they will kill off all your PS4 games and just allow PS5 on PS6(well, Lets be real, by that time, MS will either own Sony and Nintendo, or they will just partner up and have 1 Xbox Console that plays everything.... MS in charge of Online and the cloud.... Sony and Nintendo cant compete when Google and Apple, Amazon enter gaming.... Inevitable

[@kontro113dkhaoz2]

@@mipe3844 first party will take advantage of it, but not 3rd.... Not when for the first 2 years ps4 and ps4 pro will be their priority consoles to sell as many games as possible.... Just how ValHalla is being held back by PS5..... Sad we might not get 4k 60 even though we can, just because the market leader isnt gonna be happy If they launch side by side at 4k 60 vs 4k 30.... even though xbox has marketing rights, ps5 weaker console will hold back these consoles for a while... And for the record, xbox's audio solution is way better than tempest.... Dolby Atmos has been doing this and specializing on it for the past 3 years

[@yoganugraha2959]

@@kontro113dkhaoz2 you think 15% difference in TFLOPS will have noticeable impact? Original XboX one and ps4 have almost 50 % difference: (1.3 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS) but difference almost unnoticeable 900p vs 1080p

[@jmi_music]

I’m most looking forward to the immersion sensation gained by 3D Audio , and also the SSD potential to stream in huge open worlds. Loading times will probably be the biggest “I didn’t release how much I wanted it” feature because I think we are so accustomed to loading times being normality. Imagine if a movie paused for 30 seconds every 20 minutes... it would be a much less immersive experience. Thanks for the analysis - you’re really good at this and I learned a lot from your commentary.

[@PierrePotonnier]

Especially with those new ssd priorities. I hate when a game throws at you a very intense Cimenatic or piece of gameplay and then EVERYTHING cuts off for the next cinematic/gameplay moment even the music. It's so important! It's like the technical team comes after the storytelling one and decide to ruin everything. Even a badly placed loading screen could be so much better with the audio continuing and fading the old atmosphere into the new one.

[@jmi_music]

Pierre Potonnier Absolutely. Worst thing for me is during a loading screen I tend to pick up my phone without thinking and open social media. It’s a total immersion breaker and usually exposes me to something depressing or angering that lingers in my mind, and which alters my enjoyment of the game. For that reason alone it could be a game changer for me.

[@frowy1]

yup, I've slowly been losing interest in gaming over a few years or so, and I didn't know why, until it dawned on me, after having Come back to gaming during this COVID situation, how unacceptable load times had become. I was like 'oh... yeah, i forgot this was a thing. let me just go make some tea and toast and sweep up a bit while i load into this solo dungeon'' I manage about an hour of playing every now and again before losing my mind. My flat is much tidier now tho'.

[@jmi_music]

Richard Frow haha, for sure. Reminds me of the worst offender for me - Fallout 4. Loading into a building with nothing of interest, and then loading out back into the main world, and then loading into the next building and so on. I think I spent more time on my phone than playing the game. Tidying is a good idea.

[@bonafide227]

Do you know there is no 3D audio on the Xbox series X only the PS5 have it so the PS5 will have better framerate and better audio the games will sound and hear better on the PS5

[@stell_r5829]

Thank you for this.... Your insights help us understand what a step forward the PS5 is. Can't wait to see where the games go. Good luck with your engine.

[@Noname-eo8uw]

There was a lot of things that I wouldn't think of or understand without you. With your explanations and thoughts, I am excited about every aspect of new technologies

[@lyons.5344]

I am most excited for the Tempest Audio Engine, Imagine working with Sony to get your own custom HRTF! Wow! Exclusivity! I never really cared about the TFLOPS this is actually the first time I heard about it LOL! I enjoyed so many consoles not knowing their TFLOPS. What matters to me are well developed cool games and exciting innovations like what Sony is doing. TBH I don't see anything new and exciting from Xbox, I enjoyed their Kinect though. I almost fell for that TFLOP & Most powerful Console marketing BS. Power comes in many form I guess. Mr. Cherno! Good job!

[@Krejstrup]

Thanks - this was a nice ending of this SONY conference video. Fun watching, and I'll stick arround bc there was a whole lot of content that I really liked here. Cheers!

[@lowkey276]

3D sound might be the same leap as when we went from mono to stereo. Can't wait to try it out!

[@glennstormdesign]

Talking about the 3D Audio hardware was most exciting, and in particular, the part where Mark talks about the challenges of blending between locations, source areas as opposed to points, etc. Visualizing the locations as a point on a sphere around the player's head, then taking the idea of area on that sphere, it's not a hard jump to then think of volumetric sources, simulating depth from the player as a function of volume/phase. So, not only could you visualize an area or shape of audio source on the surface of that sphere, you could extend the source boundaries in depth, describe 3D shape with the source, attenuate the edges, make them softer, etc. So, much could be done with sound in that space. Imagine using these per-player calculations, and fine tuned source topographies to then filter the sounds through materials like dense fog, a shower of water, plant life, etc. So much information subtle information can hit the player that it seems a much easier step to accept the game world as real.

[@OctaBech]

That was quick :D It has been a joy to watch these videos, I hope you'll make more in the future.

[@kevinkkirimii]

Love it.. You have nailed this series. Looking forward to you tear down analysis

[@ryanbutterworth6681]

Been really looking forward to this. Keep up the amazing work!

[@svang1991]

I love your commentary on the PS5. I hope you continue to follow the next gen consoles. Subbed. I think the biggest impact for the next gen consoles will be the implementation of SSD and improving I/O throughput.

[@DJ_Dopamine]

1:39 - 'When I play God Of War on my PS4 Pro, I know the power consumption is high just by the fan noise.' *_Or Mafia III Definitive Edition, which must be pulling about 3KW_*

[@jweyrich]

On the 3D audio HRTF model selection, if you can "match directions against different HRTF models", it would be cool to play a scene for VR players with a sequence of 3D audios and ask the player to look exactly to the direction each sound comes from. Then you can automatically switch to the next better scoring model and in a few seconds it could possibly get you a better (or even a perfect) match. Fun stuff!

[@JutahFate82]

Really enjoyed the trilogy, thank you. Im probably most interested in seeing how developers use the Tenpest 3D audio and the ssd to improved games.

[@AXEL-us6td]

Great PS5 reaction series! 3D audio is what excites me the most for PS5. I love movies and all of my favorite movies have amazing music scores. Star Wars, Lord of The Rings, all Christopher Nolans work, etc...

[@nickbrennan3925]

Some fans in the gaming community who will remain nameless! Are trying to make out that the PS5 has been a reactionary cost cutting exercise, with less GPU CUs that have been overclocked to unstable levels, inadequate cooling that won't cope, and cost saving on the size of the SSD. When in fact the exact opposite is true, the PS5 appears to have been engineered from the ground up around that custom IO and SSD the point of which was to engineer a true next gen experience with zero bottle necks to push polygons at unheard-of speeds through that GPU..

[@JustanotherTuba]

Absolutely loved this 3 part series. Came here from Linus and you're explanations have really helped me as a consumer understand a lot more about the PS5 and what Sony are aiming to achieve. I'll definitely be subscribing!

[@matthisjungjohann7835]

To me i feel like the audio will be the biggest improvement on PS5. Of course Raytracing and even more realistic graphics are nice but the audio has to be on the same precision level too and i experienced games that looked good but the audio was just a bit off and it took so much of immersion out of there that i generally didnt like the game i could´ve liked with good audio.

[@86lanzo]

with Raytracing .. Audio and Raytracing are now connected.. the same ray intersections used for light bounce can be used for sound bounce to give far more complex audio... it's not graphics or audio

[@FireStormUnleashed]

As a surround sound system user that doesn't like headphones, I hope you are right and that great audio for all doesn't just mean great audio for headphones and maybe TV speakers. But yeah, audio makes all the difference and the PS4 didn't really deliver in that regard

[@aadityavardhannarayan8141]

@@FireStormUnleashed You shouldn't worry about that:) They've already declared that TEMPEST is a constantly developing concept and I'm sure they'll get to provide this experience to surround sound system users too.

[@FireStormUnleashed]

@@aadityavardhannarayan8141 man I hope you're right :) it's gonna be interesting for sure. Have a great day!

[@spicynachos2762]

Nivida Ampere is meant to have 4x ray tracing performance increase also I'm curious what games will support ray tracing on PS5

[@Anakom23]

Once again, thank you for your job. My personal favorite in this presentation was that PS5 team was not only focusing on new features they bring to developers, but how convenient and easy to implement those features are.

[@ceekayschofield4312]

These reactions have helped me alot to understand the PS5 alot better.

[@Chilli5m]

Oh no. I just noticed that the green light on the "orange box" in the background flashes along with your voice and now i can't stop looking at it. Great video as always, I've really enjoyed this small series. It's been a lot of fun hearing your opinions and most of all explanations of the technical terms and concepts presented. Thanks a lot!

[@TheRealEraser]

i think audio is going to play a bigger part in games this coming gen, Game are reaching a point were graphics are almost lifelike and so now sound need to catch up to make us feel like we are in the game. The thing i am looking forward to is PSVR 2 which with better graphics and audio might just fool you to think u are really there inside the game :) P.S would love for a similar react video to the XSX.

[@NickPalem]

hope the psvr 2 display is good

[@TheRealEraser]

@@i420xGaming ive heard it's wireless using WIFI 6 and is 1440p per eye at 120Hz, which if PS5 can do 4k at 60Hz sound about right.

[@asmonull]

We have almost photorealistic graphics for quite a long time, but to get realistic (as in: close to what you can see, instead of what a camera can capture) graphics we still have very long way to go - human perception can register that movement happened in very short timeframe, and a lot of effects (motion blur being primary example) are following camera behaviour more than real life perception. Arguably we still have a long way to come to reach the point where on-screen image is unrecognizable from looking through a hole in the wall (I'm not using "window" on purpose - glass in window does change your perception), and given how much or little graphics power changes, we'll probably have to wait at least one generation. Audio might (almost) get there with PS5, but this time it's video that'll be lagging behind.

[@Zosh_]

Exactly. The "custom" 3d audio thing in VR feel awesome

[@BIOSHOCKFOXX]

Nope, audio will become better, it will play a big part, but graphics are still what plays bigger part. What you probably mean is immersive, which is something different from what you describe. There is no game that will "fool" you in letting you think you are in game if you are not using VR headset...otherwise you are still staring at limited space screen with hands on keyboard and mouse, or gamepad. VR is only thing that lets you feel like that, but everything else constantly reminds you of being aware of your surroundings.

[@gabielss]

Excelents 3 part videos! Thanks for taking de time to explain everything to us!

[@A-Duck]

I don't know why but I love the way Cerny says "forward" like "foe-werd" What a character.

[@mikehunthunt8269]

I already had a youtuber troll me with knocking sfx, it was amazing, made me believe it was from the real world, and if they can bring this same experience but better, oh yeah.

[@_Ashler]

How does anyone dislike a video like this? Great closure to the series. I'd really like to watch an additional one where you having had the time to digest the information, could give your closing thoughts on how you feel this generation is going to go. I know this isn't the kind of video your channel goes for, but just an idea. :)

[@Hoto74]

XBox and PC Fanboys.

[@robertorossi4361]

@@tbird81 But that was the whole point of this, so if you have those problems and still watching you are an idiot.

[@YallThisismyworld]

Wow man thank you so much! I enjoyed this series too much. Thank you again! 💕

[@J0PHIEL]

this is true next gen....the amount of breakthroughs...incredible

[@jameyr5531]

I've always been impressed with 3D audio this is so cool that Sony is focusing on this

[@Gavhouse]

PlayStation gameplay event is June 4th, do you think you'll do a breakdown of the advancements if there's anything interesting to note? This channel is great but I've no interest in learning how to program but if you go the way of Digital Foundry and start doing in depth analysis of next gen games I'd be keen to watch.

[@Ample17]

Agreed!

[@zoriiginalx7544]

Why do you want him to copy DigitalFoundry? If you want DigitalFoundry related content, watch them lol. His channel has based on programming and game engine technology for years, rather than breaking down games and the specs of consoles.

[@gminor6288]

It got delayed for the protests

[@Gavhouse]

Because he's an actual developer and if you look at the numbers he's getting on these videos it makes sense to keep making similar console/game related content, if that's something he cares about.

[@BIGNOIDS]

It's been cancelled due to all the idiots out looting.

[@steffennilsen2132]

5:12 with any luck we will get the teardown this Thursday. Word is they made a cooler that cools the IC from both above AND from below, I imagine not having to support as many PCIe lanes frees up pin space that allows a cooling block from below

[@JusticeInGaming_JIG]

100% - SPEED/SOUND/RAY TRACING - 3 things wich will blow our minds and eyes on PS5!

[@tipoomaster]

Interesting tidbit about Tempest, it's allowed to be used for generic compute. So if a developer isn't maxing it out for audio, they have another 100Gflops sitting there to do something interesting with, if they were especially invested in SPU code back in the day that might be interesting.

[@Nathan5791]

Really impressed with the PS5. I know this talk from Mark Cenry rubbed off the 'non-tech journalists' the wrong way but as a developer, this is exactly the details I wanted to hear. This gives more insight than any other stupid TF arguments. I am really looking forward to how the Sony 1st party utilizes that SSD to its fullest and stoked for 3D audio. Can't wait to pre-order a PS5 soon!

[@archangelenigmaresurrected2378]

Top of the morning brother...Another awesome video from you, thankyou for the breakdown and commentarty , hope to see more vids like this from you...

[@painleroux9486]

Talking about sound and immersion while i play with a headphone that only one side work xD

[@Peoples_Republic_of_Cotati]

I would love for the new 3-D audio to be modifiable for people who have ear damage, ie partial hearing in one ear has a profile with which audio can be adjusted.

[@hunbbelmeer6600]

You'll probably see some of those cool ideas and implementations on June 4, 2020 :) Sony will show PS5 games for the first time on June 4 1:00 p.m. PST.

[@RussDnB]

Big fan of audio here. Really looking forward to hearing what the audio can bring. On/off topic, one of my favourite game audio in recent memory is Elite Dangerous. The ambience and atmosphere woven into that game is phenomenal.

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

The teardown hasn’t happened yet. We are still waiting for it.

[@rodneytheredmage3436]

Hopefully this week 03 June 01:00 pm PDT?

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

Rodney Van der Westhuizen No. They made clear this is about games. They also said that more events will follow soon after this 4th June event. So, it’s close.

[@ValentineC137]

have we even seen the console??

[@stretch493]

They'd have to actually reveal the console, and not sure if the June 4th will be be the reveal as it seems to mostly a showcase for the game running on a ps5

[@stretch493]

@@ValentineC137 not yet, beyond fan mockups

[@Beatsbasteln]

for me personally the audio aspect is the most incredible new feature. as a music producer i have always been interested in so-called binaural effects like dearVR music. when listening to sound through this plugin on headphones i do sometimes feel the presence of the sounds and you can't even switch between different hrtf in it. it just has a great sound by default. but looking at this it seems the ps5 devs want to dive even deeper and make the tools for the game developers so they don't even have to hire audio professionals to make their games. so that means we can expect to get a lot better sound than ever before in most games

[@frankdrebin259]

this guy is thinking, "I'm gonna brush up my resume and send it in to Sony"

[@danielwilliams7562]

thanks for the insights and comments. appreciate your time

[@goosetheboss1655]

So glad we didn’t have to wait a week this time!

[@frowy1]

i was getting withdrawal symptoms after part 1

[@winstonllamas5163]

Thank you for taking the time to explain the hows and why's on a lot of things that are really interesting.

[@psychedark]

Yes I was waiting for this reaction vid 🙋‍♂️

[@Matt7R]

I get that people didn't love this deep dive because they didn't get to see the console, but I remember watching this live and just feeling so blown away by the whole thing, it was a real treat. Enjoyed it more than I did the actual physical reveal of the console (which I do like btw). Really enjoyed your reaction too, nice to get the view of a developer!

[@valentingourg582]

What Sony did this time for gaming is just amazing!

[@alexandy796]

@@RandomUser2401 the difference Is that on PC we dont have that esclusives games that Sony has...

[@alexandy796]

@@RandomUser2401 man in all my Life y play on PC but y never see on my top PC not even closer a beautifful looking game like the last of us 2 not even close at Uncharted 4...this Is the reason of console ...

[@alexandy796]

@@RandomUser2401 you are Just frustraded man bye

[@alexandy796]

@@RandomUser2401 you are Just frustraded man have a good day in this gen im done with PC y pass at ps5 ....and if you prefer PC wtf are you doing here ...?

[@alexandy796]

@@RandomUser2401 man in past y play only at PC but After y try Uncharted 4 and the last of use 2 y realize that y never play such beautifful looking games on PC ....because Microsoft we have to admit dont colaborate with software house like naughty dog santa Monica ecc like Sony does...wtf y do with Power....if y dont have software house that make beautifful games ....they succed to optimize for play station..

[@rustybean36]

Following this series has been great! I follow Digital Foundry as well and they do a great job of breaking down tech and analyzing games, but being able to also hear developer insight is invaluable. Thank you for doing these videos!

[@AKSBSU]

You might also want to check out NX Gamer.

[@rustybean36]

@@AKSBSU will do. Thanks for the recommend

[@paulogazolla7488]

Correct me if iam wrong, but can I see the tempest audio chip as a sort o “audio ray tracing”. This sounds amazing.

[@itulujune8]

Hey there Yan! I just wanted to say thank you for your time and effort you've put into this mini series.. I've understood much more from the presentation than I'd have if I had watched it without your commentary.. And that is the reason why I've just subscribed to your channel though I don't have a keen interest on developing games (rather interested in art design). Thank you again.. Wish all the best for you!! Cheers!

[@ottot3221]

At 19:35 Cerney states the tempest engine (chip) could also be used for games (as in not for sound only). Does that mean ray-tracing?

[@ChumpyChicken2]

SPU’s can do some cool stuff.

[@ottot3221]

@@soulsbourne Thank you Allen for you answer. Will that be a significant addition? About the SPU Mark Cerny said: "Where we ended up is a unit with roughly the same SIMD power and bandwidth as all eight Jaguar cores in the PS4 combined." I don't know what that mean. Is that SPU as powerful as a PS4 or what?

[@hypoman1]

Thanks for your excellent explanation!! Greetings from Holland and looping forward to your next vids!!!!! 🤙

[@AndySomething]

Would be cool to see you react to the PS5 reveal this Thursday 😅

[@christopher.tomins2001]

@Captain_Morgan Maybe Price?

[@marcg6539]

_EmergentAxis810 _ price isn’t going to happen yet.

[@HereticDuo]

It's not a reveal, it's a showcase of upcoming games for PS5 and what they look like. Dont expect anything on the console itself.

[@TheDarklord176]

Sure woulda been, considering it's been postponed again 😭

[@patcruising8925]

You guys got a nice surprise today then 🤣👍👍

[@hamiwiremu7154]

These videos really helped me to understand the PS5 conference better. Thank you Harry Styles :)

[@psychedark]

Definitely 3d audio and ssd will impact in ps5 platform.

[@usr6253]

Really enjoying your videos and your positive attitude! :-)