Game of Thrones FANS WATCH The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring | REACTION | Part 2/2

[@SpartanandPudgey]

That must be one of the most fulfilling fantasy adventures we've been on! truly out of this world! If you want the ENTIRE LOTR TRILOGY UNCUT Reactions check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/spartanandpudgey (Edited reactions for 2nd movie should be coming this week on Patreon)

[@MrGaleanon]

you got 7k views in an hour with this content. We like your perspectives and curiosity.

[@Makkaru112]

(No spoilers) You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy lol” which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that latex it out perfectly.: •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!' She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood. 'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper. 'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.' Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last. 'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.' 'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.' Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest? 'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!' She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad. 'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.' They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.' 'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?' 'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam. 'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.' 'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!' When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it.... Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.

[@Makkaru112]

@@MrGaleanonwe all agree. Hence we’re here. This fandom before all fandoms is truly full of great souls great hearts. All multi-talented too. A very unique group of people. ❤

[@TiaraDalmeida-hf4zp]

Mithril is as hard as dragonscales but not dragonscales. Mithril is a type of ore. A precious metal.

[@Makkaru112]

Fantasy as the genre didn’t exist until this movie came out. Even the many books were considered even by the authors own words to be our own history within our world as well as it being a labour of love to restore the mythologies and cultures and languages of England, Wales, Ireland, shedding light upon Finland, Norway, Iceland too along the way!

[@claydavis8924]

the bilbo jumpscare never fails. NEVER.

[@PhoenixDawn93]

Still catches me out and I’ve seen it a hundred times by now 😂

[@czos9239]

I looked over at Pudgey and wasn't disappointed. 👀 lol... Jackson did such good work with these.

[@davidkjellin3194]

Same with the troll 😂

[@enigmadrath1780]

Demon Bilbo; the cave troll chasing Frodo; and the first time Gandalf tried to pick up the Ring in Bilbo's house and the Eye of Sauron when BLEAAAGGHHHHHH!

[@Makkaru112]

It’s interesting because in the book this is what Frodo sees as a vision when looking at Bilbo so this was well done ❤

[@alive4metal731]

its never lost on me, that as he is dying, the first thing that Boromir asks Aragorn is "They took the little ones" showing that he cares more about their well being than his own. The ring was messing with Boromir, but in those last moments, the true Boromir came out. He was a a caring, selfless, and honorable man. He death scene always hits. Be at peace, son of Gondor.

[@saddlerrye6725]

And even when the Ring was messing with his mind, it just twisted his good intentions: "I just want to defend my people!"

[@nevaladder]

He was the one who was teaching them to sword fight (and playing with them, too).

[@Thoralmir]

​@@saddlerrye6725 Remember earlier when Boromir is expressing his fears about the fate of Gondor to Aragorn? How he tries to put on a brave face, but he's all to aware that his nation's strength is waning, and he feels like he's being crushed by the burden being placed on his shoulders. He's seen as the hope for his people, when he has almost no hope himself. The man is deathly afraid that his home and everything he loves will be annihlated by Sauron despite all his efforts to stop it. The darkness is closing in on all sides and he doesn't have the strength to hold it back. That's why when Galadriel telepathically told him "Even now, there is still hope", he nearly breaks into tears. The poor man is afraid of having faith, afraid to get his hopes up, when everything seems so damned bleak, be he can't see _how_ things could get better. He can't see how the Quest can succeed, and they're gambling everything by taking this quest. _THAT_ is the vulnerability that the Ring plays on to corrupt him, the vulnerability of a good and noble man burdened with an impossible responsibility and driven to absolute desperation. It shows just how insidious the Ring truly is. It's why Sauron never suspects until the last few seconds that his enemies would try to destroy the Ring, would even _think_ to destroy it. It's also why it takes so long for Hobbits to succumb to the Ring's corruption; they simply don't have the cares, worrries, or complex desires of other people, leaving very little for the Ring to work with. Their biggest worries are usually with the next growing season and how long until their next mealtime, not with gold or power or the fate of nations.

[@wren7195]

@@Thoralmir Well spoken, friend. Speaking of Hobbits' resilience, although the scene doesn't play out too well compared to the Books, but the sequence where Sam was about to give the Ring back to Frodo... the book version is frightening and adorable, I imagine the Ring trying but failing to convince Sam of anything, lol for the same reasons you said. "What do... I do or SAY to this guy!? It's like he's dense or something! What do I do!?" They do a good job in the movie, but the nuance of course can't be shown. Again, great description of Boromir and where he comes from mentally. Even asking on his deathbed "Forgive me... I could not see." Best wishes to you Thoralmir, a truly splendid name

[@Null_Experis]

@@saddlerrye6725 That's always how the ring works. SPOILERS FOR LATER MOVIE: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . When Sam has to carry the ring for a bit after Frodo is attacked by Shelob, it attempts to tempt him by showing him all of mordor covered in gardens and greenery, but tended to and made possible by an army under command of 'Samwise the Strong', bearer of the One Ring, making it utterly fail to tempt Sam because Sauron is incapable of understanding the heart and desires of a simple gardener who would prefer to work their garden with their own hands: "Already the Ring tempted him, gnawing at his will and reason. Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dur. And then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be. In that hour of trial it was his love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command."

[@darknessoftruth9314]

That blade deflection was 100% legit. The actor for Lurtz was having trouble lining up the blade throw due to the makeup. So instead of aiming slightly off so it would miss, it went straight for Viggo's head. Fortunately, Viggo was quick on the deflection game. Badass.

[@Davidofthelost]

That’s thanks to his training with the original trainer for Errol Flynn. Professional swordsmanship right there.

[@darknessoftruth9314]

@@Davidofthelost Never knew he trained with the og sword master. Explains a lot.

[@Davidofthelost]

@@darknessoftruth9314 the guy even said Viggo was one of the best he’d trained with.

[@darknessoftruth9314]

@@Davidofthelost High praise. Must be why he was perfect for the role.

[@Davidofthelost]

@@darknessoftruth9314 considering everytime the production crew looked away he was off fishing, enjoying nature, and took his sword even to town dressed up as Aragorn. I’d say he did very well to get into the role of a ranger. All because his son was a fan of the books.

[@stevenricks1703]

I love how Pudgey had a little conversation with Gandalf. Gandalf: A Balrog. Pudgey: What the hell is a Balrog? Gandalf: A demon of the ancient world

[@jhidalgo_]

Gandalf: Fool of a Pudge!

[@johnnyinsac]

It's done so fast that it's easy to miss, but Aragorn takes Boromir's wrist braces when he dies, and wears them from here on to honor him. I'm BEYOND happy to see how you guy's reacted to Boromir. He's a hero, flawed as we all are...but such a good man. His final scene with Aragorn cuts me every time.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Yeah, some people hate on him. He's a good man who had a moment of weakness.

[@iMini92]

I get so annoyed when people think Boromir is greedy and wanted the ring. Boromir is a good man but the ring corrupts all, it takes a powerful hold of people and Boromir was more susceptible to it. Just look at Boromir after he tries to take the ring from Frodo, his look of defeat and sorrow as he says "What have I done!?" is incredible and shows he isn't really like that

[@johnnyinsac]

@@Hero_Of_Old yeah. It's something that could be left a bit unclear because of the amount of ego or bravado he has with his screen time. The movies really don't show his motivations for even being at the meeting in Rivendell, so I can see why he gets some sour reactions. But it always comes full circle in the later movies, so I'm excited for Spartan and Pudgey to see them!

[@johnnyinsac]

@iMini92 he really is such a good guy! But he's also the only mortal of the group that has lived under the direct threat of Sauron. A battle commander that knows the threat, while everyone else acts kind of academic about it...That kind of fear and desperation left him too open to the ring's corrupting nature.

[@Taewills]

@@Hero_Of_OldI don’t think it’s “hate”. He def rubbed me the wrong way with his dismissiveness of Aragorn at the council meeting. He’s the same in the books too. He comes off as defensive, arrogant, and kind of a downer when everyone else is trying to come up with solutions regularly. He grew on me through this adaptation…. at the end

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

The scene with Gandalf and Frodo in the mines is one of my favorites in the trilogy. “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.”

[@juliaforsyth8332]

That was an incredible line when Gandalf answers Frodo. "it was pity that stayed his hand"

[@rickymartin4457]

Always one of my favourite lines. Who can decide who deserves life or death?

[@robertfitzjohn4755]

@@juliaforsyth8332 That line gets parodied in the book 'Bored of the Rings': "... but pity stayed his hand. 'It's a pity I've run out of bullets,' he thought."

[@pitilessnightmare6879]

Sad they didn’t show that part

[@guywhoistooparanoidtousere3758]

With a book the size of Lord of the Rings, you have to discard so many interesting things if you want to adapt it into a movie. The fact that that line made it into the movie is a testament to how well the creators understood the deeper themes of the source material.

[@chrislittle2797]

Boromir’s death scene/farewell is one of the greatest in all of cinema. Bean and Mortensen perform it immaculately.

[@Sure0Foot]

I cannot watch this scene without tears...after the dozen+ times of seeing it.

[@TheChristopherHope]

My brother. My Captain. My KING.

[@needsomeink]

Like a baby every time

[@johns1625]

The Falls of Rauros fight scene is way better than Helms Deep AND Pellenor Fields. It's realistic, emotional, accurate for fighting styles, and not peppered with immersion breaking "dwarves are short hurr" humor or Legolas skateboarding

[@katieryan1188]

MY KINGGG 😭😭

[@Vortex1988]

The crazy thing about that knife deflection is that it actually happened. The actor playing the orc actually released the knife at the wrong time when he threw it, causing it to fly directly toward Viggo Mortensen. Viggo had to deflect the knife in order to prevent being hit by it, and they just happened to get it on camera and left it in the movie.

[@riolkin]

There's a ton of amazing trivia about the filming of these movies, and at least half of it revolves around Viggo. Dude is an actual legend.

[@joshuabarnett88]

"DiD yOu KnOw...?!" All of us in the upcoming two towers video with the helmet kick

[@Erichwanh]

@@joshuabarnett88 haha, exactly.

[@Commander-vf1lk]

It’s because Lurtz, the Uruk-hai (Big Orc) who shot Boromir, his makeup was affecting his eye which made it harder for him to see where he was throwing it. If you noticed his 1 eye closed, yeah, that’s why he almost ended up actually hurting or possibly killed him.

[@Scarecrow545]

@@joshuabarnett88 I'm so excited lol. Going to do a shot for every Viggo's toe comment.

[@Amoschp524]

Fun fact: each Fellowship member has an instrument that identifies them. The movie adds each new instrument to the Fellowship theme and then starts taking them away as the fellowship breaks. This means that the theme will always be incomplete in the later films because of the character deaths. You only hear the full theme when it shows all know hiking up the mountains.

[@firmak2]

Oh shit never knew that. Cool detail.

[@Amoschp524]

I think it is in the behind the scenes specials from the special editions. It has been awhile since I have heard it but it always stuck in my mind.@@firmak2

[@mon_moi]

Could you tell me the name of the OST that uses all of their themes vs the one that uses only one theme?

[@Amoschp524]

@@mon_moi Should be the ost for Fellowship since it is in that movie.

[@Amoschp524]

I think you can only get the whole theme, I have not seen an OST that contains the manipulated versions that can appear in movies. The Theme plays in full when all nine are cresting the mountain path and they goes past the camera. It is not long after the council of Elrond scene.@@mon_moi

[@sarahmattingly6971]

I really appreciate how you both followed the arc of Boromir with understanding. He is such an amazing character in the books and Sean Bean does a great job of portraying his temptation and torment as well as his courage and honor. Some people just see him as a failure and a weak man and that’s missing so much.

[@Kreegz]

to be fair the theatrical cut painted Boromir in a much more negative light since it cut out all of his redeeming scenes other than his death, so I can understand why the people who have never read the books or seen the extended editions would have perceived him as a weak failure.

[@actionalex3611]

@@Kreegz Hardly anyone mentioned the fact that the theme of Sean Bean dying was born here and the fact that the idea of killing off a main character early belong to Tolkien. George Martin got his inspiration from him.

[@DJLtravelvids]

​@@actionalex3611To be fair Sean Bean had already had his character die onscreen 11 times before LOTR, though this and GOT are perhaps the two he is best known for

[@actionalex3611]

@@DJLtravelvids Ok maybe i assumed to much. However the killing of main characters i´m pretty sure Martin got inspired a lot from Tolkien. Thanks for clarifying.

[@lepot23]

@@DJLtravelvids and Goldeneye

[@dadovickov554]

The Gandalf's pronounce YOU SHALL NOT PASS is probably one of the most iconic sentence in all movie history

[@thomaswilliamson298]

The line that launched a thousand memes.

[@nickallison7216]

And also, not the correct line. "thou cannot pass"

[@balrog7252]

Exactly. Objectively, there are only two better known. " I Am Your Father" "I’ll be back"

[@roberttindale9012]

"I'll be back" ;^)

[@michaelstach5744]

This echos a slogan from WWI, “Ils ne passeront pas!” For Tolkien’s generation this would have great meaning.

[@Jotto999]

Boromir is just extremely human. Yes he's weak to the one ring's temptation, and wanted it. But he struggles, bravely. And cares about his companions, and he feels terrible after harming them. He was just a very human character.

[@smocloud]

He has his demons, he knows he does, and he puts all his strength into fighting them right to the end.

[@pamdawkins13]

The poor man just wanted to save the people he'd spent his life protecting, and the ring took advantage of that.

[@catika505]

When you look at him in the context of his people, it's hard not to feel for him. Gondor is the last and greatest bastion of the strength of Men, facing the darkness of Sauron every day on the fields for eons even after the line of kings was broken. How could Boromir not feel insulted by Aragorn's presence when he ran from duty? How could he not want to sieze any chance at bringing hope back to his people? The beauty and tragedy of his character is that he ultimately found that hope in a brother and king that he initially rejected.

[@MrBendylaw]

Obligatory note that the three strands of hair given to Gimli have immense significance. Galadriel had been asked for a single hair three times, by an important elf who was not too cool, in the end. She shot him down. By giving Gimli _three_ hairs, instead of the one he asked for, she recognizes and displays the purety of his heart for all to see. Gimli will wear the title 'Lock-Bearer' for the rest of his badass life, which is up there IMHO on the nickname rankings.

[@katarinawikholm5873]

The prequel to Lotr & the Hobbit, the Silmarillion, can pretty much be summarized as ”Fëanor, no!” Galadriel refusing him any part of her hair made sense.

[@hesiyyn4880]

Or to quote Red, “dammit Feanor!”

[@SnailHatan]

“not too cool” is the understatement of the Age.

[@MrBendylaw]

@@SnailHatan Lol. Timeless elf queens with celestial hair and prescience don't need to make time for pejoratives or other such devices of rhetoric!

[@emikusz]

@@katarinawikholm5873 It's pretty much jumps between "Melkor, no!" and "Fëanor, no!"

[@blackpandaasia5925]

Gandalf's death will never be forgotten. RIP Gandalf. The short time we had with him he implemented as much as he could.

[@Inthebreeze00]

R.I.P Gandalf The Grey

[@Elwingish]

poor guy, but at least he went out bravely! I remember going to the cinema with my old mom back when this was in the cinema, and she had such a crush on him and was so upset when he died. I had a hard time convincing her to watch the next two, but she was glad that she did.

[@MilkoAR]

"implemented" is a way to put it hahaha

[@leonidasmalekakis7366]

Youuuuuuu

[@nickchivers9029]

Gandalf was too OP for the current meta and has been nerfed.

[@pezdispencer113]

I'm glad you guys saw the Boromir in a favourable light. A lot of people just think him selfish and evil, wanting the ring for himself. When really Boromir was one of the best of them, every moment he was thinking of either his companions or his homeland. He was training the hobbits to defend themselves and always thinking about their own wellbeing. When Gandalf fell at the Mines of Moria he was the first to think of their feelings, begging the party to stop and let them grieve. The story of Boromir is a tragic one. He shows that no matter how good you are, the evil of the ring will find a way. It will use your good intentions to twist and corrupt you until you betray what you yourself believe in, all for its own ends. He died thinking he had failed and seeing the hobbits be dragged off by the enemy. He wasn't a weak man by any means, the ring is simply just that powerful.

[@HNCS2006]

It helps to be sympathetic to Boromir when the first watch is the extended edition

[@pamdawkins13]

He was a good man in an impossible situation, and the ring used that.

[@1vhn187]

The reason why no one helped Gandalf was because there were still goblins trying to kill them and chasing, and you can see the arrows hitting the wall as they leave the cave. It was too dangerous and gandalf knew this so instead of asking for help he told them to flee

[@Murdo2112]

Not to mention they were actually quite far away. You can see the distance when Frodo turns to look back, watching the fight .

[@ebreshea1337]

Also the bridge was compromised after losing its arch, so it could collapse at any moment. I think there was a line somewhere where frodo says that if the others didn't have to worry about him (and the ring, and the mission etc), then they definitely would have gone to save Gandalf. Sort of adding to his guilt.

[@rhonaalexander630]

And they have to complete the mission!

[@nilocblue]

Exactly, in the books, there's an army on the other side of the bridge, and Gandalf was trying to warn them to flee.

[@kecol9930]

True and even then Aragorn was still trying to get to him. You can see he was running back up to stairs after Gandalf fell

[@GreenParlour0749]

I’m not gonna lie, I cackled maniacally when you said that Gandalf better not die. So I saw an interesting statement once that said, “Aragorn is what mankind strives to be; strong, wise, and doing the right thing. Boromir is what man kind tends to be; trying to do the right thing but willing to take the wrong path if they think it will be justifiable in the end.” At least that’s a summarization of what it said. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

[@sebastianressel8007]

And I cackled, when he died and Spartan said "Noo way, this early?!" And I was just like: "Yeaaaah, they not ready for the end." 😂 But I gotta say, I love the quote you cited here. I never heard it, but it really sums their characters up. 👍🏼

[@GreenParlour0749]

@@sebastianressel8007 the original quote was more poetic, but I think I got the gist of what it said. I agree that it fits their characters.

[@melaniekay3647]

This is literally a dream come true for me, to watch LOTR with someone who has never seen it before and watch their reactions. I laughed, I cried, thank you for taking the time to do this and I would love love love to see your reactions to the next two movies; they just get better and better!!! As a life-long Tolkien fan, I’m honored to have stumbled upon your channel. See you for Two Towers!!!

[@SpartanandPudgey]

❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼 we are glad you enjoyed! we look forward to sharing our next reaction 😁

[@STOT9]

Seriously. Didn’t even know I needed this.

[@pamdawkins13]

Same. I used to do this with friends in college, and I miss it.

[@iainsteele5737]

how many comments do you guys think there will be about viggos toe in the next movie?

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Was there any about Peter Jackson eating the carrot lol

[@deathswitch2404]

Genuinely think there will be more people memeing in the comments about how many people mention it... Case in point 🤣

[@bLuGhOsT_]

Nah for real people froth over the chance at dropping that fun fact

[@FilthyCazualGamer]

Just for this comment, I will make that exact comment including the time stamp. Viggo’s toe shall be honored.

[@throfur3489]

Can I just be the guy that points out he broke two toes, not just a "toe". Turns out I can.

[@grahamtravers4522]

The reason that you see so many fantasy tropes in these films, is that LOTR ( the books ) started a whole trend, and indeed an industry, of fantasy stories. Many of the things you recognise stem FROM these stories.

[@tiffnickk]

Yes! Every time they said “that reminds me of….” Oh sweet innocents! It all comes from Tolkien! Great videos! Always fun to watch a new fan’s first exposure!

[@dottzie33]

Tolkien really is the GOAT

[@bernice6867]

Of course Tolkien himself borrowed heavily from Northern Mythology. But I agree, he started a trend and many copy from Tolkien instead of creating their world directly from mythology.

[@MandiLou41493]

20 years later and "you shall not pass" still gives me chills

[@infiad1275]

You and Baltimore City Schools! 🤣

[@UserName-vb4lg]

One of my favorite small details is that since Galadriel was the last elf in middle earth who’s seen the trees/light of Valinor, Jackson used a special light rig. So if you look in her eyes she has several reflection points instead of the one you see in most actors.

[@ernstfrutphlinguhr2494]

It’s a beautiful and clever technique.

[@zoesumra9152]

Last except her cousin Maglor. Poor Maglor.

[@colinstubblefield4670]

Sorry for another critique but there is also Cirdan the Shipwright who was there during the Time of the Trees. Very good easter egg and detail they added.

[@timcarpenter2441]

Called Galadrielight

[@katarinawikholm5873]

”I would have gone with you to the end” My heart melts, every time

[@ashleytaylor7621]

*to the very fires of mount doom

[@derGlasdrache]

When Gandalf addresses Pippin with his last name Took, he means that the alleged carelessness of his family shined through. His actual name is Peregrin Took, also called Pippin, and he is Frodo Baggins' cousin. The other two hobbits on this roadtrip, in case you wondered, are Meriadoc Brandybock, called Merry (Frodo's second/great cousin), and Samwise Gamgee, called Sam, his father and he were gardeners for the Baggins. It's said that the Took family were atypical hobbits, very daring and adventurous and every few generations, a Took would leave the shire to go on adventures and sometimes wouldn't come back. And it is also said that Gandalf always seems to be involved. That's why Gandalf isn't that well liked in the shire, which doesn't come across in the movies too much. In reality the families in the shire are all closely related, though 😋

[@Sure0Foot]

Pudgey's "....OOOOHHH SHIIIIIIIT!!" is perfect, every time! EDIT: Pudgey, after Gandalf falls: "Guys, don't make me cry!" Sean Bean & Viggo Mortensen: "Hold our beer."

[@heatherpedersen8209]

Theoden in RotK: Hold my ale

[@molonlabe1509]

@@heatherpedersen8209 The third Eagle in RotK: hold my regurgitated worms

[@treyharmon7682]

@@heatherpedersen8209spoiler alert

[@KenjiMapes]

Yeah Pudgey’s “Oh no’s,” “For sure’s” & “Surely not’s” crack me up in her Aussie accent.

[@tkinsey3]

"The music amplifies every scene"

[@rollomaughfling380]

Howard did a fantastic job in this movie, but applying musical motifs to characters and concepts in movies was definitely nothing new or innovative. Generally, when a composer scores a whole movie, especially a long orchestral score, it's a practical necessity, given the usual time constraints, (many times 6-8 weeks for a typical film, pen to paper-through-delivery) considering how many directors still haven't read the Memo: "Get the Composer Involved Early, Not in Post." Shore had 4 years to start and finish his scoring.

[@katinka01114]

I love Boromir, because he is GOOD. When Gandals falls, he is the one empathizing with the hobbits, telling Aragorn to give them a minute at least. He is seen playing like a big brother would with Pippin and Merry. That's why his corruption by the ring is so sad because he is genuinely good and trying. I mean, his first words, when Aragorn arrives, is "They took the little ones". Bless. He makes me so sad. He is one of my favorites. May he rest in peace.

[@ZoneBaracking]

His first thought is "the little ones" and then his 2nd thought is "where's Frodo" cuz he knew he screwed up. It's so sad that the last image he sees of Merry and Pippin are them getting taken away. Might be the most poetic death I've seen, since he inspires Aragorn to take the reins and eventually become king. Boromir death is 100% the cause of Aragorn rising. Him asking for a moment after Gandalf's death was a surprising aspect of his character. I thought it was odd that he was so sentimental about Gandalf but you're absolutely right, he was sad because Merry and Pippin were crying. That development with the little hobbits and also his development with Aragorn and his struggle with wanting the power to save his people makes him one of the most dynamic characters I've ever seen. In such a short time, too.

[@midgetydeath]

And his life was shitty on top of the pressure on his shoulders and the temptation even without considering Sauron's power. But, he still resisted for a long time.

[@cylelle376]

@@ZoneBaracking As sad as Boromir's death is, I am always comforted by the fact that his 'madness' with Frodo is only momentary and that he dies with honour as the protector (for Merry and Pippin) that he was ever meant to be. It's also worth remembering that he is the catalyst in this moment for all the good that follows. The fellowship has to break at this point in their journey because while it is imperative that Frodo and Sam get to Mordor as soon as possible, it is actually just as important for the powers of good that Merry and Pippin reach first the Ents and then, Rohan and Gondor respectively. Without all four hobbits fulfilling their respective roles, the final outcome might have been far different.

[@ZoneBaracking]

@@cylelle376 Agree on the temporary madness, since Boromir immediately started crying and apologizing to Frodo. But instead of seeking him out, he clearly learns of the Uruk-hai and his instinct is to protect the most vulnerable members of the fellowship (even though they are chasing Frodo, he has invisibility so he probably thinks he can take care of himself) As for your 2nd point, Legolas is not ready to give up on the fellowship, and it would be a trivial task for the three of them to catch up to Frodo/Sam. I thought it strange that Aragorn was so quick to abandon the ring just to save two irrelevant hobbits "to a tormented fate". I know everything connects at the end, but there's no way Aragorn could have predicted Merry/Pippins importance. So my only guess is that Aragorn was simply honoring Boromir by rescuing his favorite hobbits.

[@cylelle376]

@@ZoneBaracking I think it's important to remember that Aragorn, from his very birth, has been bound by destiny and prophecy. He was never reluctant to be king, just cautious about exposing himself to the enemy too soon. Part of the fabric of Tolkien's world is the sense of there being powerful forces, both good and evil, at work beyond the various races which can impact events. Aragorn because of his heritage and life experience is aware of this. Gandalf advocated the inclusion of the two younger hobbits in Rivendell and it was posited that they would have a part to play before the end. In the books, Aragorn was originally headed with Boromir to Gondor so was always intending to leave before the end, but of course that was before the loss of Gandalf in Moria where he took on the mantle of leadership. After Boromir's death he reads the signs and correctly deduces that Frodo chose to continue his journey alone, only taking Sam with him because Sam interrupted his escape. He also recognises that the orcs who took Merry and Pippin came from Saruman (who is working independently from Sauron in the books). In the end, his choice is neither quick nor easy. To quote from the opening chapter of "The Two Towers": "I will follow the Orcs," he said at last. "I would have guided Frodo to Mordor and gone with him to the end, but if I seek him now in the wilderness, I must abandon the captives to torment and death. My heart speaks clearly at last: the fate of the Bearer is in my hands no longer. The Company has played its part."

[@marcoftheninja6278]

32:03 If you guys are still wondering what the horn of Gondor means Boromir was sounding... It's a means to regroup, because everyone was scattered in the woods not knowing where the others are, and they should follow the sound of the horn to gather together...

[@Makkaru112]

That horn also scared the Balrog. ;)

[@Big_Tex]

Yes, keeping in mind, Boromir has no idea the other guys are busy fighting too, for all he knows they’re just eating lunch, so it’s also a call for their help.

[@n4m31355h4dow]

​@@Big_Texand they are near Gondor, he was hoping for some ranger would hear it, remember faramir found his horn at the end of the river

[@DevJannz]

In the Lore of Middle Earth, the Horn of Gondor was originally taken from one of the White Kine of Araw, a special type of Oxen that were said to have been bred from the Cattle of Orome the Hunter (one of the Valar or Powers of the World). It was handed down from Father to Son by the Stewards of Gondor and it was said that if it were blown upon within the Borders of Gondor (which the Falls of Rauros were once part of at it's height) help would come to the one blowing it.

[@uglystupidloser]

@@DevJannz my man, coming in clutch with the tea

[@Surfbird11]

This is such an epic series that there is no way you can stop after the first film. Pull yourselves together and appreciate that you don't have to wait a whole year for the next one!

[@hcpiano]

right! after watching the first one at the cinema at 12 years old, I couldnt fathom that I had to wait a whole year for the next one. It was a shock lol

[@josephschembri]

I agree with you.

[@donferoce5652]

At least we had the extended edition DVDs in the meantime, along with hours of "making of The Fellowship" and "Creating Middle-Earth" features. A lot of people read the book while waiting.

[@angelavm84]

It's insane that it's so long ago. I remember as if it was yesterday when we went to the cinema for these. I don't think there will ever be such a global movie-event like LoTR was. I feel so blessed to have been alive, and old enough, during it!

[@heithemb8154]

Didn't exoect how entertaining it can be to watch some people watch lord if the rings, but I was loughing out loud and cheering for their reactions and comments! Lovely couple! Please more of this

[@djJaXx101]

One thing I always liked about the lore is that Gandalf and the Balrog are the same race. The analogy that they are both angels, but the Balrog is a fallen angel.

[@Makkaru112]

@@williamshelton4318he hated allegory. The Maiar are primordial beings which are even like a step up from the multidimensional angel and in ways isn’t easily distinguishable from one another. Without the mythologies of the world you wouldn’t have the Silmarillion and three other 25 of his books which he was writing long before LOTR was published based on a bet with CS Lewis to shut Chris up lol.

[@chrism2964]

@@Makkaru112 He may have hated it, but his writing is packed with it. He changed details so things arent exact parallels, but its not exactly hard to see.

[@Tazza19931]

It's crazy to think that both of them were there, singing at the creation of the world.

[@BlyatBlaster]

Eeehhhh… “Race” is kind of relative. They’re from the same “class.” They’re both Maiar.

[@alexg1778]

​@@chrism2964yeah it always bugs me when people pull the "but he hated allegory" card. Yeah, he might not have liked it but his writing is littered with it. 😂

[@lucarod8877]

21:48 "I'm not having that!" Those were the exact words of little George R. R. Martin as a The Lord of the Rings reader while getting the childhood trauma that would eventually kickstart him into killing all of his major characters as an author.

[@christopheryoder8292]

Idk...it always seemed like a hold my beer vibe

[@emptank]

Young Martin: you can't kill Gandalf!! Old Martin: you can't bring Gandalf back!!

[@ferrisulf]

I've been impressed with how well you guys are catching on. You're paying attention. Some reactors are too busy trying to think up jokes or something and talk over the movies. Don't worry about not getting all the names and lore. No one could get it their first time through. It just gets more intense from here on out. I can't wait to see the next installments! What's amazing is that all of the languages in this are "real" in that Tolkien was a linguist. He had actually created elvish before writing the novels.

[@Joe-ss9cr]

what the hell, you watch these weird things so often that you can vividly see the difference between different people that watch sh!t and you watch them watching it? And you've been impressed how these guys "watch a movie". Just wow...

[@felixnieuwenburg1477]

Well said mate, they really are on it!

[@joshm.1483]

You have to continue watching these. The Two Towers introduces a bunch of lovable new characters and has a huge battle that changed cinema forever. And Return of the King is one of the most Oscar-awarded movies ever, winning each of the 11 categories in which it was nominated. I cry through half of it when I watch it, it’s so moving 😅

[@mirrojas]

Same, I cry every time!

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

The Two Towers (Extended version) will exhaust Sparta's store of "epic" and "far out" because it is so epic and far out! My personal favourite of the three; it doesn't need to have a long introduction and ending(s) like the first and last (necessarily) have, so it's crammed with epicness from end to end.

[@ungenerationed9022]

When Aragorn kisses Boromir on the forehead gets me every time. True love and respect as a brother and a warrior. Well done guys! I'll be back for more.

[@katherinewilson1853]

Strider is his nickname/codename when he was head of the Dunedain, and patrolling the borders of the Shire. His pseudonym when he served Boromir's grandfather in the Army is Throngil. His Elvish name is Estel, and his Gondorian name is Aragorn. He's got a lot of names, because Sauron was trying to kill him for the majority of his youth. The Elves took care of him. I love the positive friendship and positive examples of death and loyalty and friendship in these scenes. It's so intense, and beautifully done.

[@Unfiltered494]

I've already said it under part 1, but I love Boromir to pieces. I actually love that he's flawed, that makes him more relatable and just human. But he's also so honorable, he literally lived and died protecting others. I'm so glad you guys liked his character too and didn't judge him for being tempted by the ring. I used to be so obsessed with him that I analyzed his death scene for a semiotics class in college lol

[@fakecubed]

He's my favorite member of the fellowship. The ring tried to use him for evil, but that was an external force acting on Boromir, it wasn't something that was inside of Boromir. Boromir was always the one looking out for the hobbits, teaching them to fight, caring for their needs, doing whatever needed to be done to keep everyone safe. He has strong feelings about Gondor, but that's because he's selflessly arguing for what he feels is best for Gondor, his people. It's not for his personal glory, it's because he knows Gondor needs a king, needs Aragorn, and he believes that Gondor is best positioned to defeat Sauron. He knows that his personal station, and the station of his family, will be reduced by Aragorn returning to Gondor and taking his rightful place as king, and he still argues for Aragorn to go and do just that. And despite initially thinking the ring should go to Gondor, he accepts the council's decision to destroy the ring, and offers his aid in completing that task, despite his father's command to get the ring and take it to Gondor so that his father can use it. Boromir is somebody who always does the right thing. So it's especially disturbing when we see the power of the ring corrupting Boromir after being around him so much.

[@molonlabe1509]

"They took the little ones!" Zero concern for the broomsticks sticking out of his chest.

[@Amoschp524]

His downfall showed how the Ring was so corrupting. He was a good man trying not to despair; his father was similar having held off Sauron's influence for decades before becoming the man we see in the movies.

[@JeffyFurious]

My brother. My captain. My King. Just way too good

[@PredaConvoy]

I still get chills when Bilbo goes for the Ring. I remember sitting in a packed out cinema, and every single member of the audience jumped 😱

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

The way that Peter Jackson created the feeling that this was all part of a bigger story (rather than just the first story with sequels) is that he shot the entire story all at once, so its effectively a 14-15 hour long movie that has been broken into three parts, rather than three three-to-four hour movies.

[@marcinkusmierzak991]

It's the same with books. It's one big book published in 3 parts because of publisher limitations, not 3 separate books

[@galaxydeathskrill5607]

@@marcinkusmierzak991 I just realized that, got surprised upon seeing that Amon hen is featured in ch.1 of Two Towers

[@klors]

@@marcinkusmierzak991 6 books I believe, 3 volumes of 2

[@benediktcz]

you have seen galadriel before - at the very beginning she was narrating the intro and was show as a bearer of one of the elven rings of power

[@Honkenstein69]

After watching each film 50+ times, I now come to KZbin to get my thrills by watching other people watch them for the first time. You guys are really good at reacting, very perceptive. Looking forward to Two Towers and ROTK!

[@nemalconsashutosh8665]

Hey, that's me too. I got myself introduced to the Hobbit and LOTR, when I bought both the books, way back in 1996. Watched the films when they came out. Collected the extended edition, watched the making...So far I've introduced them to my wife, kid and nephews, and now watching new fans on you tube..

[@ungenerationed9022]

One thing I truly love about Tolkein's writing and Jackson's treatment of this script is that through character development, the strengths and weaknesses of each race of being is played out.

[@silvervelcroo6129]

Hi guys! Here's A few interesting things about this first movie that you probably didn't noticed. The scene when the fellowship was on the mountain and after the snow fell on them I'm not sure if you noticed how everyone was under the snow but Legolas was walking on the snow. That s because Legolas, and elves in general have a special relationship with nature, and pass lightly through Middle Earth - so it is that Legolas is able to tread lightly on the snow while the others sink into. Another deep meaning scene was when Bilbo gave up to the ring and let it fall from his palm on the floor. Notice how the ring didn't bounce around like a normal ring would but instead slams to a complete stop. This show how much weight in all aspects is on the person who carried it. (they made that scene by putting a magnet in the floor) In the fight at the final of the movie with Aragon against the Uruk leader, the Uruk threw a dagger to Aragon and Aragon manage to deflect that dagger with his sword, well the Uruk actor accidentally threw that knife at Aragon instead of a tree and Aragon hitting it away with his sword was Viggo's real reaction to it, it was not in the script. After Boromir's death Aragon puts on his bracers as a way to honor him. He'll wear them for the rest of the trilogy. A symbolic scene is the one with Isildur's and Boromir's death, both corrupted by the ring, both die by three Orc arrows in ambush. However, Isildur is blinded by the Ring's power, betrayed by it, and stabbed in the back. Boromir sees the Ring's corruption, betrays the Ring, dies fighting, and is stabbed in the front. A few more interesting facts .. -All of the fellowship cast was helicoptered up to a mountainside (for the scene where they’re walking up through the snow and Frodo drops the ring) except for Boromir/Sean Bean (who was terrified of flying) He travelled part of the way via ski-lift and then spend two hours walking the remainder of the journey, in full Boromir costume - When Ian McKellen ( Gandalf) hit his head in the beginning of the movie in Bilbo's house that wasn't scripted, he actually hit his head on accident. But he acted so well through it that they decided to keep it in the movie -Peter Jackson (the director of the movies) included himself for a few seconds in each of the 3 Lotr films, as different character, in Fellowship appears in ur 1st part, when Fordo arrives at Bree village, Peter appear at min 26:20 as a drunk man.. -Arwen played by Liv Tyler, in real life her father is Steven Tyler famous lead singer of Aerosmith.

[@erasmoli6848]

👍👍

[@Westside_Webster]

Also Isn't Frodo like 50ish?

[@iremainteague5653]

​@@Westside_Websterin the books, yes.

[@xejanfan]

Also, Aragorn takes Boromir’s arm guards and he wears them for the rest of the trilogy ❤

[@beatooze8025]

Let's get deeper! At the council of Elrond, Sean Bean had the changes to the script written on his leg and had to look down at them. (Love that one) Viggo's black eye, his love for a horse, his broken toe scream. The end credits. It's all so much.. love it when people start the journey.

[@claratenzs]

Please keep watching! The second and third get just better and better! I’d love to see you guys react them them all. 😊

[@Bitchslapper316]

For sure. When I first watched this all these years ago I didn't truly appreciate the first movie until after I seen the second putting all the characters in context.

[@treyharmon7682]

I actually think the first one is the best and then the third and then the second but the gaps are small between them

[@Danjon1235]

this was one of the worst reactions ive seen, the girl seem sooooo fake.

[@NovelPhoinixTheSecond]

​@@treyharmon7682For me it's: 3, 1, 2, but they're all masterpieces!

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Facts. Trilogy gets so much better with each movie.

[@miguela.6155]

I LOVED your reaction guys, you absolutely got the essence of both the films and books, which a lot other reactors don't. Can't wait for you guys to watch the other two movies. Here are a few things you guys asked from the two videos, keeping it spoiler free, explaining the lore: 1. The One Ring controls the other 19 lesser rings. When Sauron put on The Ring, the 3 elves took theirs off so he couldn't control them. The 9 men got easily corrupted. Sauron wasn't able to control the 7 dwarves because they quite literally were too tough. But they did get greedy and slowly became sorta evil, started to kill each other or themselves. The King of Moria for example, dug way too deep trying to mine for mithril and unleashed the Balrog, effectively destroying his kingdom. 2. Bilbo, Gandalf and Gollum are some of the main protagonists of The Hobbit, which happens many years before LOTR. That's why Gollum knows Bilbo had the Ring. 3. The Ring was somewhat attracted to its bearer. The more powerful the bearer, the more dangerous it will be. That's why both Gandalf and Galadriel refuse to carry it. In the end, the One Ring is inherently evil, so with time, it will corrupt anyone who has it and find a way to return to Sauron. 4. The elves are immortal. They can be killed or die of a broken heart, but dont die of old age or anything like that. Some of the wisest elves like Galadriel and Elrond have lived for thousands of years. They all eventually return to the Undying Lands -sort of like Tolkien's "heaven"-. Some leave earlier than others, but given the "political" climate with Sauron, many more started leaving. Men, Dwarves, Hobbits and all the other creatures of Middle Earth are mortal and aren't allowed in the Undying Lands. 5. Saruman was indeed corrupted. He was a good guy originally and the wisest and most powerful of the wizards, but when he started using the Palantir, Sauron got into his mind. Since he was so powerful, Saruman wanted to take the Ring for himself because he believed he would be able to defeat Sauron with it and rule Middle Earth himself. 6. The Nazgul can be fended off with water and fire. They dislike water because the "god" that created them was a rival of the god of water, so they avoided it. They also avoid fire because in the end, they are the souls of men, and men fear fire. They also avoid someone that uses fire against them because they understand this person doesn't fear them. 7. The distance from Rivendell to Mordor was something like going by foot from France to Turkey or crossing the whole of the USA from one coast to the other, by foot. 8. Gandalf chose to go through the Pass of Caradhrass, a terribly difficult path, because the other two options were the "traditional" way, which was guarded with all kinds of enemies, or through Moria, where both Gandalf and Saruman knew there was a Balrog. When Saruman found out, he "forced" Gandalf into Moria through his spells, knowing he would likely die there. 9. The landscapes, armies and characters look so amazing due to a combination of real shots, miniatures, makeup and genius CGI.

[@WJS774]

@@falsnamae3511No, the dwarves didn't appear randomly, they were created by Aulë (basically one of Tolkien's "archangels"). That does make them different from Elves or Men, who were created by Eru Ilúvatar ("God"). The dwarves aren't incorruptible, but the corruption affects them differently because they _are_ different.

[@tomsamuel3219]

When the Horn of Gondor is blown, aide will always come. And in the books, Boromir blew the horn at the Balrog, causing it to momentarily pause while the Fellowship ran.

[@politenonparticipant4859]

Not only that, but Faramir was able to hear the horn each time it was blown all the way from Gondor. I can recall at least three instances of the horn being blown: when the Fellowship set off from Rivendell, blowing it at the Balrog, and calling for aid during the fight at Amon Hen. It was split during Boromir's last stand. He didn't have his shield to ward off blades or arrows, so I imagine he was using it as an improvised shield during the fight. Certainly he used every resource he had. His sword, notched from trying to stab the troll's foot unsuccessfully in Moria, broke during the fight and left him with little blade to fight with. And he still killed an unbelievable number of uruk-hai. They eventually gave up on trying to fight him close up and just shot him full of arrows. It really says something when uruk-hai are too terrified of an enemy to fight him in melee.

[@tackle47]

The movies are just so well done. The more you dig into Tolkien’s writings the more depth and powerful all the events, locals and script is. Little things like the look on Legolas’ face when Gandalf tells them it is a balrog. He is the only one with them in Moria that truly understands what horror that is.

[@unimpartialobserver]

The look on Gandalf's face, on the other hand, is "I really really REALLY did not want to have to do this." Because this is his make-or-break test, and he's just realized he is not going to be let off the hook for it.

[@S1RD2]

I like how he corrected her saying orks instead of goblins while being 100 percent wrong about it. Lol

[@sammysalsss6060]

fr lmao

[@sweaquitygaming3549]

Dude is the worst.

[@aybeesea]

Yup 😂

[@im-gi2pg]

They were orcs. I didn’t see any goblins in the group attacking them at balin’s tomb.

[@c.a.honeycutt5046]

They are goblins. Which is not much different from orcs, to be honest.

[@patrickwaldeck6681]

That NAUR when Gandalf goes down is so heartfelt.

[@Makkaru112]

NAUUUUUUR says Frodo. 😂❤

[@Garrettfinklestein]

“Ourrrr nourrrr!”

[@Lubby_c]

I love the accents🤣🤣

[@sunfurycommenting1013]

Fun fact; Naur means fire in Sindarin Elvish, and one could say Gandalf was the flame of hope for the group since when he was gone, hope seemed to go with him for the Fellowship staying united. I think there's more to this comment than meets the eye.

[@generichuman_]

@@Makkaru112 *Frodaurrrrr

[@brontewcat]

I am so glad you watched the extended version. It is worth the time, as a lot more is explained and there are some really great lines. The line as they leave Rivendell Frodo: “Mordor, left or right” is only in the extended version. I love the line.

[@dennisswainston411]

The 20 minutes of credits at the end of "Fellowship" included everybody that had been involved in the fan website that was launched when the movie series was announced. Anyone that took part in online discussions was given the opportunity to have their name listed. I was one of those fans. I won tickets to the Fellowship premiere in Orlando,Fl. I have a 18" replica statue of Gandalf that I won on-line. I have a replica "Sting" sword that looks and is as heavy as a real sword. But when you slide a switch, it glows blue and hums! My wife an I attended a LOTR marathon when the "Return of the King" was released. It included the Extended editions of the first two movies as well. It started @ 9:30 am, included meals & breaks between the movies and movie related giveaways. It ended the next morning at 1:30 am... and 10 years later we did the "Hobbit" movies at the same theater the same way!!!

[@sagatovareads5318]

THE DISAPPOINTMENT in Spartan’s eyes in the scene with Gendalf at the bridge🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I died, I can’t breathe - he’s like But But but BUT it isn’t GoT, whyyyyy

[@sagatovareads5318]

I can almost see the thoughts fly through his mind like “can I be done with this movie now? while I still can”, “can I go back to watching smth where my favorite ppl don’t die right from the start?”

[@bradcarver8127]

Surprised he didn’t blame Cersei for Gandalfs death

[@salmarwow]

@@bradcarver8127 Saruman is old new Cersei.

[@Makkaru112]

@@salmarwowSaruman is far greater. Christopher Lee is the best. The most multitalented actor on the planet. And was the inspiration for James Bond!

[@taun856]

They should watch Epic Rap Battles of History - between JRR Tolkein and George RR Martin. It covers this pretty well.

[@tom02061997]

man im not excaggerating when i say ive seen the trilogy 30+ times, read the books. play games etc. all the time but after some time without. just seeing these clips in between reactions make me emotional. im a 26 year old marine and this universe is the best thing in my life. the loyalty between lads is what always gets me.

[@riolkin]

Here it all began. Pudgey will never forget or forgive the day Spartan left her behind in Moria.

[@custardflan]

When I first read this book in the '70s and Gandalf fell, I had to shut the book and I laid my head down on it. I've read it many times since and watched the movie many times and it still hits me like punch in the gut. Right in the "feels."

[@alive4metal731]

Boromir's "weakness" was his love for his people, and desperation to save them. He wasn't a bad person, quite the opposite, he was willing to go above and beyond to help those in need, even at the expense of his life (hence why he sacrificed himself to help the Hobbits). He however felt helpless against the threat of Mordor, and was desperate for anything that would give him and his people a fighting chance. The ring ultimately used that desperation to corrupt, but didn't succeed.

[@07.a]

it's funny how u guys see Sean as Ned in Lord of the Rings but most people would see Sean as Boromir in Game of Thrones lol

[@katarinawikholm5873]

These reactors need to face and accept that GoT is but a lesser shadow. Also, GoT pales compared to WoT (both written versions)

[@giannag4581]

​@@katarinawikholm5873What I really hate is when they compare Lord of the Rings to Harry Potter. What a joke. So they had a wizard in Harry Potter too. So what.

[@berengustav7714]

@@giannag4581 and one is high fantasy and the other one is urban fantasy.

[@huntehrerrhr6581]

GIMLI IS QUITE INTELLIGENT AND WISE IN THE BOOKS I SWEAR

[@fnargler]

Yeah they changed his whole dynamic in the movies. A lot of people feel like they did him dirty but IMO it just kinda makes him more fun. I would have liked a bit more in between the two extremes personally.

[@Makkaru112]

@@fnarglerLegolas was the light of the fellowship throughout the entire story. Tolkien stated it himself. And showed it in many ways. But the movies are still masterpieces and true labours of love by thousands of people in the team that understood Tolkien very deeply.

[@MrBendylaw]

Gimli is a stumpy boss.

[@TechnicalHotDog]

I read this in his voice

[@PhilBagels]

And Pippin wasn't nearly as much of an idiot as he was in this movie.

[@toodlescae]

Well Pippin is the youngest of the hobbits and at 28 he's still a tween by hobbit standards. A teenager by our standards. In the book the mithril armor kept Frodo from worse harm but it still broke a rib or 2. Orc and goblin are interchangeable names for orcs. The big guys are technically orcs called Uruk-Hai. They're just faster, steonger, smarter and less vulnerable to sunlight than regular orcs. No one said she was evil. Gimli called her an Elven witch/sorceress but never specifically said she was evil. Galadriel is about 8,000 years old. She's seen a lot and she's extremely powerful. She and her husband Celeborn are also Arwen's grandparent's.

[@Conorp77]

What you see with the sequence of the Bridge of Khazad-Dum is nothing less than the birth of the fantasy genre as you know it, both in its literary and on-screen form. The original multi-class party reaching the end boss of a dungeon.

[@BoredOnlineBoardOffline]

Really hope you get enough of a positive reaction to continue the trilogy! It's so rare to find people that don't know anything about the series that it's a real treat to watch your reactions. Keep them coming!

[@RDehuvyne]

By the time I got to see it, there were already more views than they have subscribers so pretty sure it's going to happen.

[@NekoHanyouHanaru]

Some thing that I didn’t realize until only recently, was that during Boromir‘s death scene, the Elvish being sung is (a paraphrase) “I care not for the sword, only that which it protects” which is one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite characters in the book that they don’t have in the movie. So I like that they added it there in the music.

[@iremainteague5653]

Its so funny that Spartan instantly forgot that Aragorn is introduced as Strider.

[@DutchDread]

It's strange, but Boromirs death honestly hits me even harder than Gandalfs. Boromir is one of my favorite characters of all time, he just gets better each time as you grow older and understand the story, and him, more. Boromirs story really is tragic. A man every bit as honorable as the others, but less wise. Who fought for his people, who gave everything, who inspired, but himself despaired by fighting the long defeat his entire life. Then in one moment of weakness he almost lost his honor, but in the end attained such a victory as has been matched by few. That moment where Aragorn promised not to let "our people" fail, you can just see that there is a lifetime of worry and despair that falls from his shoulders. It really is as if in that moment Boromir has finally succeeded, and now his people whom he loves, have a chance. Boromir is by far the most human character in the story imo, his part sometimes seems small, but there is soooo much depth behind it that you slowly realize after viewing upon viewing and reading the books over and over. Some people think Boromir was corrupted because he was less good than Aragorn or Gandalf, that's not it. It's just that he, more than the others, had such a need for the ring. Not for greed or any other bad reason. But to save the people of Gondor, whose only hope was him, who counted on him. But the ring corrupts all, and ironically it was Boromirs valiance that made him the first to fall. He was a warrior, noble and true, but he didn't possess the wisdom of a gandalf or Aragorn. He had faith in men, and himself, and never thought he would fall under the rings influence. He never understood, until it was too late. Honestly crying while writing this. I love this story and these characters so much. From the books, the lament for Boromir: Aragorn sang: Through Rohan over fen and field where the long grass grows The West Wind comes walking, and about the walls it goes. ‘What news from the West, O wandering wind, do you bring to me tonight? Have you seen Boromir the Tall by moon or by starlight? ‘I saw him ride over seven streams, over waters wide and grey, I saw him walk in empty lands until he passed away Into the shadows of the North, I saw him then no more. The North Wind may have heard the horn of the son of Denethor, ‘O Boromir! From the high walls westward I looked afar, But you came not from the empty lands where no men are.’ Then Legolas sang: From the mouths of the Sea the South Wind flies, from the sandhills and the stones, The wailing of the gulls it bears, and at the gate it moans. ‘What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve. ‘Ask not of me where he doth dwell - so many bones there lie, On the white shores and the dark shores under the stormy sky, So many have passed down Anduin to find the flowing Sea. Ask of the North Wind news of them the North Wind sends to me!’ ‘O Boromir! Beyond the gate the seaward road runs south, But you came not with the wailing gulls from the grey sea’s mouth’. Then Aragorn sang again: From the Gate of the Kings the North Wind rides, and past the roaring falls, And clear and cold about the tower its loud horn calls. ‘What news from the North, O mighty wind, do you bring to me today? What news of Boromir the bold? For he is long away.’ ‘Beneath Amon Hen I heard his cry. There many foes he fought, His cloven shield, his broken sword, they to the water brought. His head so proud, his face so fair, his limbs they laid to rest, And Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, bore him upon its breast. ‘O Boromir! The Tower of Guard shall ever northward gaze, To Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, until the end of days.

[@wildpendulum]

I would add that Theoden is also very human character, love him and his arc

[@user-Andrew90000]

Now, when I hear "Where is Gandalf? because I have desire to speak with him" I also hear "They're taking the hobits to Isengard" 🤣

[@MrFlashpoint1978]

"What did you say"

[@Stiann86]

3:52 When you say in the beginning that Frodo is just a "kid" , he is actually 50 years old when the quest starts with The Fellowship

[@janezkette3901]

Eowyn 24 Eomer 28 Pippin 29 Faramir 36 Merry 37 Samwise 39 Boromir 41 Frodo 51 Theoden 71 Aragorn 88 Denethor 89 Bilbo 129 Gimli 140 Older The Lord of the Rings Characters Gollum about 589 Arwen 2901 Legolas 2931* Elrond 6000+ Galadriel 7000

[@saturated3821]

I'd also like to point out that hobbits aren't considered adults until 33, so Pippin, who is the youngest hobbit in the Fellowship at 29 years, is actually still considered a teenager. Possibly a contributing factor to his more immature actions.

[@joshm.1483]

Do they ever say what his age is in the movies though? I think for the movies they made him a little younger to justify casting Elijah Wood

[@saturated3821]

@@joshm.1483 but also hobbits aren't supposed to age like humans, if one is only considered an adult at 33, so it doesn't necessarily mean they had to fiddle with Frodo's age though it's def true that Elijah's srsly babyfaced :D

[@Stiann86]

@@janezkette3901 that should clear it up. thank you

[@ringostarz1276]

I really wished we had got more of a chance to see Ian McKellen as Gandalf the Grey, he was Cast so well.

[@erth_mu]

hi hi

[@uinen9029]

Yes, but Sir Christopher Lee as Saruman was a great casting too. He was a Tolkien-Expert and his voice was very suitable. I will never forget the event on stage (at a lake) , where he was reading Lord of the Rings.

[@Makkaru112]

@@uinen9029Christopher actually met Tolkien several times, that professor told him if they made a proper adaptation he’d want Christopher to be Gandalf or Saruman so the movie got his blessing. The son was just over protective for good reason but also not many movies back then so he didn’t have much of an idea about them. If he seen the behind the scenes stuff showing all the love for Tolkien and the the labour of love behind it i think he’d come around. As Tolkien has a love of art and if he got to hear Howard Shore he’d definitely appreciate it greatly as even when he was alive he enjoyed the few performances of his poems and such in musical form back in the day. He always stated that art and music was the purist form of anything in existence so he took it as a huge compliment when people created such things that were inspired by his work. Depictions through the lens of purity.

[@ominousbiscuit]

It was good while it lasted

[@uinen9029]

@@Makkaru112 : interesting- thank you.

[@HickoryDickory86]

1:10 Spartan: "The table has been set, they've got a crew now." *"The board is set. The pieces are moving."*

[@hideflen]

In the book, Boromir actually honks the Horn of Gondor at the Balrog when they first see it and it gets startled 😂

[@tai32]

"honks" the horn of Gondor lol

[@tabby_cat]

@@tai32 attach it to your car and all traffic will part before you

[@s1lm4r1l6]

@@tai32 Balrogs are known to be utterly terrified of geese. True story.

[@galaxydeathskrill5607]

I am buying that book, take my £150 (yes, 150 for LOTR, and weirdly 50 for my native translation- but I prefer the original)

[@joannaholden943]

I grew up with this, then tried GoT and was traumatized by all the deaths.😂 I can imagine the relief as a GoT fan that not everyone dies in LOTR. 😊

[@francislelievre5172]

Aragorn blocking that thrown blade with his sword was an accident, the knife wasn't meant to get so close and Aragon was meant to just charge the Uruk-hai, but Viggo Mortensen actually blocked it. on camera

[@oq1106]

03:52 Yeah, Elrond knows the wisdom of not swearing any oaths. Probably gets flashbacks about the infamous "Oath of Feanor" that resulted in, /among other things/, him and his twin being raised by the two murderhobo princes that killed their family in the first place. For some other very cursed jewellery

[@emPtysp4ce]

Would the Silmarils really count as "cursed" though? The closest they have is Varda's blessing to scorch the hands of the wicked who touched them, and given how they have the light of the Trees in them (the last remaining source of the original Light of Not-Heaven) it hardly seems like something you could put on the same level as the One Ring.

[@AmarthwenNarmacil]

This movies and the two to follow set new standards for not only fantasy movies but movies in general. Visual effects today would not be where they are without the huge work that went into this. I'm looking forward to the other two! Btw, Boromirs Death was Sean Bean's favorite death to play and imo one of the best death scenes ever.

[@philphilips1020]

IMO, one of the most amazing things that hardly anyone ever mentions is that by the time this first movie came to theaters, all 3 movies had already been filmed. Just the logistics of filming 3 full length feature films simultaneously is mind boggling to my feeble brain.

[@mycroft16]

Most BIG budget action movies take 4 or 5 months to shoot. 6 sometimes. Lord of the Rings: 438 days. Plus 6 weeks of pick ups each of the years the films came out to fix things, get additional shots, etc. Making these movies was AS epic as the story itself and I don't think anything will ever be quite as epic.

[@philphilips1020]

@@mycroft16 You are absolutely right, friend. No studio today would even consider that sort of financial investment.

[@djJaXx101]

"He's one of them rangers. Dangerous folk they are - wandering the wilds. What his right name is I've never heard, but around here, he's known as Strider."

[@Wolverines9999]

Sam always continues to call him Strider throughout the movie.

[@SixFour0391]

I swear, since I watched these movies as a kid, I sometimes still hear lines with my “kid” brain… For the longest time, I though he said “but round EAR…” as to sort of identify his race…like all we know is that he’s the race of Man and not an Elf.

[@Scarecrow545]

@@Wolverines9999 Sam also coined one of his many names when he called him Longshanks, lol.

[@BlueRoseWolfie]

I think the main reason for the multiple zoom ins on the Hobbit's feet is because it is suppose to be a sign of their species. Hobbit's are known to be short with large in proportion leathery feet covered in hair. Due to the size and toughness they are often more likely to go barefoot then wear shoes. So like often when a humanoid species is shown you see what is a quality of theirs. Dwarves often have large beards, Elves long and fair hair with pointed ears. Its just feet for Hobbits. So it was more something that fans of the books would of liked to see as representing similarity to the books. Am excited to see the next movies reaction!

[@natalieliepe7354]

When Boromir dies and call Aragorn : Brother, captain, my king.. it means so much if you remember the council when he said gondor needs no king. Definitely was important on Aragorns path to meet Boromir

[@Tarhockey33]

The bilbo scene shows that the corruption of the ring will never go away unless it's destroyed. Bilbo has handled its evil better than pretty much all who have been near its influence

[@andreitopala8502]

I always understand this line in the book like something that Frodo sees, not like this really happens to Bilbo. Frodo sees a treat to the ring as Bilbo supposedly wants to take it from him and in his mind Bilbo suddenly turns into an ugly greedy creature. Even in the film scene Bilbo feels sorry not about his weakness but about the burden Frodo holds.

[@KeithCampbellStuff]

Yes, up till now, Bilbo is the one being to have ever possessed the ring, and voluntarily let it go. And even that was extraordinarily difficult for him.

[@fakecubed]

@@KeithCampbellStuff Gandalf helped with that, but yeah, hobbits are remarkably resilient to the ring.

[@kristinawrites238]

You cannot stop here. The stories of the characters are incredible & you’ve only scratched the surface of how this story will tug at your heartstrings. Great reaction guys.

[@omrmajeed]

Glad to see you do the reaction for extended editions and do it in 2 parts. Newbies usually get too scared about the extended editions due to its daunting length, but the extended versions answer lots of questions that 1st time watchers have and the movies are so engaging that it doesnt feel that long when watching.

[@KayronTheFifth]

A fun fact is that the actor who played Gimli is the tallest of the fellowship actors, standing almost a head taller than everyone else.

[@JonathanHawk101]

The actor is 6 foot 2 if memory serves.

[@PhilBagels]

"Give 'em hell, Frodo Baggins!"

[@AlistairCrooks44]

He's 6'1, and the other actors of the fellowship (exc hobbits) are all around 5'11, so almost a head is a bit of a stretch! But, it is really impressive how they used visual effects to make him appear so small, especially over 20 years ago!

[@RonSklepko]

As a long-time fan of everything Tolkien for 50 years, I really enjoyed your commentary on the Fellowship of the Ring film. Sharing the film through your fresh eyes made me appreciate the emotional journey again. You are being introduced to the complete and deep world of Middle Earth that JRR Tolkien created through his writing and what director Peter Jackson successfully translated to the film trilogy. You both conveyed thoughtful and insightful comments on the story line. I look forward to your reaction videos on the next two movies in the trilogy.

[@FridayGirl19]

Poor Boromir, in the other films you really get the reason for his actions, the motivations. It explains so much about him.

[@carlakse]

u said beginning of the first part "im nervous i hope i like it as well." and i was like come on....no chance you wouldn't enjoy lotr. epic soundtrack and fantasy action aside, there are really teary moments about hope, friendship, loyalty, loss and everything. im so happy u finally did this reaction. love you both and can't wait to see the rest. and from the bottom of my heart, RIP Boromir. such an actor and character!

[@lilb5262]

Another point of character background, for around 16:41 when Frodo is saved by the armor, you should know that the dwarf in the tomb and the dwarf who wrote the last passages in the book Gandalf read were both instrumental for how Bilbo came to obtain that armor and then pass it on to Frodo. Gimli, Gandalf, and Bilbo knew both dwarves as family or as friends. So, while their deaths are lamentable and they can no longer rise up and fight to protect their kin or Bilbo's nephew Frodo, they still did help in a way. Even in death, their past actions helped to protect the loved one of their dear friend. Fate is not written in stone, but the past is. While only one dwarf is in the company, the past actions of many other dwarves can't be overlooked for this journey. They unknowingly helped carve and smooth part of Frodo's path. I think this follows with a common message Tolkien seems to send in these stories, that the smallest of actions and people are often overlooked, but just as important as the actions of the big folk.

[@Gutslinger]

I'm currently reading through the book for the first time. I was reading when I clicked on this. Feels like I've been reading forever, but I'm only in the "second book", 306 pages in from the beginning of the story, and I only just now got to the point where they come to the western doors of Moria. It's interesting and cool to see the extra details that the movies left out, and the details that they changed. It's like getting more episodes of your favorite series, and it's not filler episodes.

[@erebus6489]

Ok I just stumbled across this (and part one), and while I don't normally comment on clips I just had to say how much I enjoyed your reactions. When the movies first came out (i was there 3,000 years ago... lol and yes I am near enough to that old) I already loved the books, and as much as I loved seeing the movies bring it to life, I already knew what was coming. But seeing it now through both of your eyes as a couple who don't know the full story really brought back the wonder and excitement I remember when I first read the books. I really appreciated your open and honest reactions and so glad you appreciate how immersive Tolkien's world is. Tolkien actually wrote a really interesting essay called On Fairy Stories, where he talks about the key to good fantasy is that the reader must feel completely immersed in the world, rather than relying on suspension of belief, which sadly so many fantasy movies require. I think the magic of Jackson's movies is that he manages to translate that immersion onto the screen. Anyway, glad you loved the movie also. I am off to re-watch the movies now while I await your reaction to the two towers.

[@magister343]

Smeagol was a Stoor. Stoors were one of the three lineages of little people who separately migrated west and eventually merged together to become the Hobbits. Of the three groups, Stoors were the stoutest, shortest but most muscular, most friendly towards men, were known for their love of boats and their odd habit of wearing shoes or even boots (instead of always going barefooted like other hobbits). They were the only hobbits capable of growing facial hair. The Stoors don't have many descendants in The Shire proper, but had more influence on their neighboring region of Buckland and in Bree (where the Inn the Prancing Pony was located). Hobbits of the Shire are predominately descended from another group called the Harfoots (named for their large hairy feet), but many of their most noteworthy families descend from a much less numerous third group called the Fallowhides. Fallowhides were a bit taller, thinner, generally of fairer skin and hair, friendlier towards Elves, and had a reputation for being braver and more adventurous. The most notable Fallowhide family was the Tooks, from whom Bilbo, Frodo, Pippin (full name: Peregrin Took), and Merry (full name: Meriadoc Brandybuck) are descended. Samwise Gamgee is probably of nearly pure Harfoot ancestry, but Merry has both Stoor and Fallowhide blood while the other Hobbits we have met are a mix of Harfoot and Fallowhide.

[@cristobaltrejo4186]

There's so many moments I wanted to comment on, but I'm just speechless. These movies are my heart and soul. And I loved the reaction too it, it allowed me to feel again what these movies made me feel the first few time I watched them when I was younger. Please React to the other two. I know you guys will love the full story as much as the first movie

[@BobBlumenfeld]

One thing not often noticed by first-time LOTR viewers is that three of the major characters, Gandalf, Galadriel and Aragorn, are each tempted to take the Ring, and all "pass the test" as Galadriel puts it.

[@niklasgamborg3086]

Great reaction! And I'm so happy to see how much love Boromir is recieving these days! As a big Boromir defender for the last 20 years, this makes me very happy :D

[@andycofin6983]

Age and time skips are tricky in the series versus the books. Both Bilbo and Frodo were in their fifties during their respective journeys. There was a time gap between Bilbo’s 111th birthday and the time when Frodo and his friends leave Hobbiton, and some more time before they head to Bree. J.R.R. Tolkien was a professor at Pembroke College, Oxford, and is considered the father of fantasy characters such as Hobbits, Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, and Trolls. He didn’t necessarily create the characters but he pretty much set their descriptions in stone. And although there is a magic presence in his stories, it isn’t spells the magic users are casting, but rather they are speaking in Tolkien’s created Elven language asking for nature’s or the spirit’s help.

[@markfarmer7534]

In the last battle of this movie, when Aragorn deflects the dagger, the guy playing the orc messed up and accidentally threw it directly at him, so the deflection was real 👀

[@LittleMissBob]

Over twenty years since I first saw this movie as a teenager, and I've seen it numerous times since... and Boromir's death scene still makes me legitimately emotional. Damn.

[@justintorres502]

George R R Martin reading Gandalf's surprising death essentially paved the way for him ripping your heart out in ASOIAF. Just to bring it all full circle for you guys. I think he said he was like, "If Gandalf can die, anyone can die." Pretty cool.

[@aaronrowell6943]

It is been a delight in these past few years to see so many people discover Lord of the Rings for the first time and enjoy it. There's so much lore, facts, and trivia for these movies. One thing I will say is that boromir such a great example of how to do a redemptive character in such a short time. He's so unlikable when you first meet him and he it's so obviously going to betray them but as the movie goes on you realize that he cares for the fellowship than that he is a good guy just he has a lot of problems. There's a reason that they talk about the corrupted nature of the ring so much, all of the fellowship will fall eventually none can overcome the power of the ring he's just the first. It makes his sacrifice so much more awesome when he tries to say the hobbits and has his death scene that he does fall but then he also redeems himself. His death will also have far-reaching consequences.

[@Uller1967]

I love Boromir. One of Sean's and any character's BEST death scene. He is tempted and succumbs to it, but STILL finds his redemption in his sacrifice for Merry and Pippen. Boromir finally accepts Aragorn for who and what he is and Aragorn too recognizes his own truth and is the moment he starts to accept his destiny and duty to Gondor and the lives of men. I get tears every time I watch it and I've seen this film at least a dozen times.

[@willfieldsend]

You know how in GoT they kill off characters really quickly to surprise you. Well George RR Martin says Gandalf being killed so early in the first book was the direct inspiration for his style of character killing.