Game Of Thrones Podcast Episode 53 - House Of The Dragon Season 2 Episode 2

[@PainCausingSamurai]

Not to be smug, but considering how upset people were about the casting, I'm taking the tiniest bit of credit for pointing out that Prince Phillip from the Crown was actually the perfect choice to play Daemon.

[@Funaabas]

there are alot of similarities between the two characters

[@axz60]

Goated observation

[@valerialamberti9037]

I don't like the Cast but Matt Is grownig on me

[@ianschmitt4991]

​@@valerialamberti9037whoa buddy that's almost a die hard 2 typo

[@milenabianca9787]

I literally just came to the comments to say this!!! He’s playing a more extreme Prince Phillip for sure

[@iliaponomarev1624]

Everybody talks about the body falling off. I felt like Helaena is about 2 seconds away from a full-blown panic attack.

[@christophercramp17]

Trey does sound a lot like Preston. He even has his intonations at certain points.

[@nacivelaz]

He really does and it throws me off at first lol he's great though!

[@joshuamorris9524]

For real. Same speech pattern, similar vernacular. Pauses, everything...

[@vict0r0ckit]

Mirroring.

[@andrewh88]

​@@nacivelaz had a holy shit moment reading this lol, I thought this was Preston the whole time

[@matthew66306]

me too lol, uncanny But I thought it was Preston doing a Trey imitation.

[@LincolnMaurice]

I can see the similarity between Trey and Preston, in how they articulate and their cadence. But to not tell them apart seems weird.

[@lovewho]

These discussions force me to watch an episode each week (as opposed to waiting and binging) because I don't want to be out of sync with my feed.

[@tofonofo4606]

Can we have Preston Jacob's? We have Preston at home! *insert trey here* Lol. Much love guys. Good shit.

[@RoofingConnecticut]

It’s like if Preston had just a touch of helium for breakfast

[@jakelabute5196]

Since Preston isn't hear to point it out, I have to say there is a gapping plot hole in Aegon and killing all the ratcatchers when Haelana literally saw Blood and Cheese and could just identify them.

[@matthewevans5960]

Idk. We saw that Aegon and Helaena were not speaking with each other. Also Aegon is acting very impulsively this episode. It doesn’t seem beyond plausibility that he offhandedly ordered those executions without thinking it through.

[@jsb1585]

I like that they've fleshed out the characters a bit more, particularly Helaena. In the books, she was described as simple, pleasant and a devoted mother. I like that they've included a bit of that Targaryen mysticism to her character, someone a little odd, tormented by premonitions. Each of Green siblings has their own "thing". Aegon is brash and impulsive, Aemond is sulky, violent , yet vulnerable, Helaena is strange and misunderstood, and Daeron (who we haven't yet met) is described as the best and most likable of the bunch. It's a dynamic which I hope they explore further.

[@Gary915]

Show Halaena being a dragon rider is insane

[@alanpennie8013]

It's well done. I don't particularly need Daeron . He'll probably be a nice straightforward kid like Jace or Luke. Which is fine I guess.

[@joshhoffman5233]

CC is mentioned by Jamie talking to Loras. And it concludes the chapter all dramatically. “They called him, ‘kingmaker’.”

[@coalrssotnon]

About the Vale Hill Tribes, I seem to remember, in the show, Tywin having a line where he tells Tyrion he paid them off and sent them away.

[@DrDetfink]

Sir Criston “Friend-zone” Cole is such a great villain. 😂 The psychotic Frankenstein Kings guard monster Rhaenerya helped create that Alicent used as a tool. 🍆

[@alanpennie8013]

The Mountain was a pussycat by comparison.

[@alexmarsh8464]

The thing I thought sounded like Preston was when Trey said, “yeeaaaahhh… yeah”

[@jefftaylor8644]

I like Cole. He’s such a bad person that it’s entertaining

[@Hochspitz]

But there was over emphasis this episode.

[@alanpennie8013]

Agreed. I couldn't abide him last season. But his extreme self - hatred has made him interesting.

[@AstaraBrightwing]

"Criston Cole is misogynistic and homophobic." This is A Song of Ice and Fire. That's normal, and it's considered moral by their standards. Western society in our own world didn't abandon these traits until half a century ago, and half of Western society along with most other cultures still consider them normal. If you're going to judge Criston negatively by those traits, you have to apply the same judgment to basically every person in Westeros, minus a few more sexually-open cultures. At that point, it just becomes a silly thing to do. A more sensible take is that Cole (in the book) is fighting for his own power, aggrandizement, and potentially revenge against Rhaenyra, *while also upholding traditional Westerosi values.* That would make him both good and bad. Not Cole in the show, though. Cole in the show is just a repugnant hypocrite.

[@mk2gamer]

Didn't get a notification for this. KZbin sucks

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

You should/need to like and comment, algorithm will correct itself for you

[@Shelly-lz9tm]

Me either

[@MotherAce]

how you even get a notification for anything? Is it a phone only feature? Because absolutely nothing ever alerts me on PC when something starts airing

[@Valcurdra]

Like every video you watch and your problems will be solved

[@kneau]

Weirdly advantageous misinformation being spread here

[@keirangrant1607]

Agree that this is one of the best episodes of the GoT franchise ever. The individual scenes with just 2 actors was great. Rhaenerya and Daemon. Otto and Aegon. Otto and Alicent. Arryk and Erryk. Cole and Erryk. Cole and Alicent. Even The Sea Snake and Rhaenys. They all crushed it. I've been saying this for years, but HBO always finds the best actors for their series. The actors almost always bring their A-game

[@gavincopley7070]

I never noticed the sounding like preston and now i cant unhear it

[@davidmarriott6321]

My Seasmoke fan theory is that Laenor died as soon as he got to the disputed lands. He was always talking about and excited for war but he'd never been in one without his dragon or his own army at his back. In essos he is just another man with a sword.

[@Hochspitz]

For a short while, when I was 20 I was engaged to a 55 year old man, older than my parents but a long time friend of theirs and godfather to my sister. My mother was horrified but my father instantly gave his blessing. The man was more than comfortably well off having recently sold his solely owned emerald mine which had produced some of the finest emeralds in the world and so my father thought that I would be well taken care of. So I can understand the attraction of younger women to older men...until they realise what it actually means.

[@kneau]

Sorry you were almost married off to a Musk

[@brendanfechter4889]

For it to make sense we have to assume that Laenor wasn't lucky like Gendry and his rowboat capsized at sea, or he and Karl Correy are killed by sharks or pirates. Point is, Laenor has died in the years since episode 7 ended. Its the only way Seasmoke can be claimed.

[@arvaakuka8568]

It's not too wild to think he has died. He and Karl would have to find work, probably as swellswords, in order to live in Essos. And sellswords don't exactly have long life expectancies.

[@conniesuper9892]

So Mysaria had a deal with Otto to get the child fighting pits ended...do we know if that happened?

[@jessjess23brooks89]

I feel like Otto would hold up that end of the bargain. He wasn't even the person who burned down her household. He would probably be pretty disgusted with the King potentially going back there and screwing up optics even more. So might as well get rid if them.

[@cheangizzz]

Makes sense for Tyrells to stay neutral. Same logic they used to oppose Stannis: their vassal house who has better history is tied to the royal house threatening the position of Tyrells as Lords Paramount. In fact, I think they would like to support the blacks to weaken their annoying vassal, but they are surrounded by Oldtown, Lannisters and Tullys (at the time wasn't known that Tullys side with blacks). And considering how many reach houses sided with greens, tyrells were right to stay neutral.

[@ceilingfanenthusiast6041]

I think Trey's cadence is kind of similar to Preston + their interests and knowledge seem to overlap a lot. If Preston starts posting cosplay, I'll believe they're related 😆.

[@_addison4772]

Problem with the whole show is each ep has a new director and they keep switching how the character acts

[@SuperDoolu]

Loved the episode. We are so back, felt like it elevated episode 1 by extension.

[@joshhoffman5233]

I don’t think this episode was that good for most of it. Most of those convos felt pointless to me. However, the Otto firing scene was one of the best ever. And that elevates the whole thing. It was perfection

[@autje1970]

Given we know where things will go, Otto is right to care about the opinion of the common people.

[@alanpennie8013]

I do think Otto is more perceptive than Tywin, though equally terrible as a parent.

[@Longshanks1690]

Me a month ago: Idk George, why is it that people still think Criston was responsible for the Dance? If in the lore, there really were so many more moving pieces and factors like Otto and Alicent, why does everyone in the main series only think about Criston? You’re seriously telling me they’d blame him THAT much and have THAT much hatred for a guy who clearly wasn’t that responsible for much, even if he was a dick? Come on, no one could possibly have that level of deranged, misplaced, irrational hatred for Criston Co- Me now: Nvm, I think he was spot on with that one.

[@DarkKing009]

90% of the cast are House of the Dragon are hypocrites, lies, and murderers. Especially the Nobles and princes. What makes the kingmaker so special and worthy of score?

[@Longshanks1690]

@@DarkKing009 I have no idea, you’ll have to ask the majority of this show’s psycho fanbase who think Criston Cole is worse than Joffrey and Ramsay combined 😂

[@DarkKing009]

@@Longshanks1690 I mean he's a dick but nowhere near Joffrey or Ramsey. I do not understand the fan base sometimes

[@LarthV]

@@DarkKing009 I _guess_ it's why people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort: They know people like Criston (or Umbridge), and project their dislike to the irl characters onto these - and they cannot do that for _actually evil_ people like Ramsay or Voldemort, since they have no experience with those.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

​@@DarkKing009I think, specifically in the books, Cole is hated in Westeros for his actions, but more for the fact that he was an up-jump nobody not from any great house. And even the Maesters are classist af.

[@baileyatkinson4436]

this is a good episode because Preston isn't around to convince me that its bad 🥲 (I'm writing this with love btw)

[@alanpennie8013]

Preston is nothing if not critical.

[@iron_captain]

Daemon is truly the Rogue Prince

[@thewatcher2538]

do we get preston or substitute teacher trey?

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

yes

[@thewatcher2538]

trey is prestons brother confirmed

[@Longshanks1690]

He is the Unofficial Game Of Thrones Podcast Cohost that was promised.

[@_addison4772]

It makes no sense that she’s like you upset that you didn’t get the crown … what ??? At no point should a younger brother expect the throne as soon as the king has kids 9:17

[@TheKingOfRooks]

I genuinely think this might have been my favorite episode of the entire series, it was definitely at least top 3. All the character work was so fantastic and maybe it's cause I have a new brother now but the brother battle actually made me cry a lil bit lol. This episode really sold that everyone in this show's situations are so fucked, the only people who are really responsible for the way that they are are Daemon and Otto and their ilk.

[@teelotus3326]

This is the best channel for GOT/HOTD content 👌🏽💯

[@duncanidaho4565]

Hightowers are a power that shall reveal it's secret plots in the books, or at least it seems like it. They've got stuff cooking in that High Tower - it seems to be intimated. But the show dropped them - that is true.

[@alanpennie8013]

My impression is that The Dance taught them to keep in the shadows. If they show off their power the other houses will turn on them.

[@yuffmymateria7859]

I already like Larys more than little finger. Hes quickly become one of my favorite villains in the franchise

[@alphonso5236]

4:40 Whilst watching the carriage scene I couldn't get a scene from an old film out of my head, about the execution of, I think, Mary Queen of Scots. It's where her decapitation gets botched by the executioner and when he finally gets it done; lifts up her head by her hair but the hair is a wig and the head drops to the floor.

[@keremkelleboz6959]

I actually thought Jaehaerys' head was gonna fall off the carriage since they showed how it was sewn back on. Glad that didn't happen

[@ZaeBae22]

He sounds like a shaggy from scooby doo version of preston

[@biggertonandy4423]

It’s Pristine Jay-Cobs

[@andrewbowman2885]

Take a shot everytime trey says the word “like” between 5:00 and 6:30

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

be nice to trey, he's my baby squirrel

[@juanpablomina1346]

A Sara Hess episode in which Daemon is character assassinated? Color me shocked!

[@alanpennie8013]

I do think he's coming into focus after being so inconsistent last season.

[@kneau]

"Yes I did write a box of Little Debbie Oatmeal Creme Pies into a scene so I could eat them on set and I'd do it again." - Sara Hess, 7:32 AM · Jul 7, 2015

[@MrJakewray]

I was so sure that only the boys head would detach and fall off and roll into the crowd

[@fraliexb]

He sounds like Preston with a cold.

[@XX-um1du]

Welcome back, Shelbyville Preston! 😃

[@emarti3853]

Criston Cole was the best fighter in his time

[@Bmega81]

I don't even think daemon has ever wanted to be king. Personally believe he would rather someone like raenayra or viscerys as king but with him having an important role. He just wants to be valued and have a position of worth. Deep down he knows he not the best for king.

[@alanpennie8013]

Corlys and Rhaenys got him right in their conversation. He's potentially a very useful ally but he's so unpredictable and wilful that it's easy to write him off as not worth the effort.

[@shaneoconnell9279]

The Rogue Prince (bwom, ba, bwom, ba bwom, more whammy bar sounds, dododododo) Caraxes greeting Melys, literally Ekans saying pokemon not bad, pokemon do bad because Master bad.

[@darknstormyknights]

a great hotd episode & a great podcast episode. looking fwd to the rewatch 🍿❤

[@m.q.7149]

Otto is putting in the overtime and his immediate family are just fucking with his plans, lmao. They do not give AF and at the end he didn't give AF about alicent either.

[@dupejesu7208]

great podcast as always,by the way trey sounds just like presty 😂,i’ve got to say cretan stark has no excuse for being so late ,ned stark had to sneak back into the north,and he still manage to raise his banners and get into robert’s rebellion in time to help robert out tremendously,so cregsn definitely violated…one thing they could do for the show is if his uncle and/or cousins rise up in rebellion against him again and he had to deal with that first before heading down south (like cole did with alicent)……..🥳

[@alanpennie8013]

Cregan unlike Ned is a true Northerner with no tie to other parts of the realm. Sure he's fond of Jace but his duty is to his own people.

[@malicewonder8345]

Madam Sylvie and Aemond scene looks a lot like the Pieta. Was that a foreshadowing of sorts?

[@lesliemisaacs]

What’s Pieta?

[@malicewonder8345]

@@lesliemisaacs The depiction of Mary holding the body of Christ. Google Michelanelo's Pieta, it's the most famous one.

[@alanpennie8013]

​@@malicewonder8345 Aemond was bruised for our transgressions, wounded for our iniquities.

[@malicewonder8345]

@@alanpennie8013 Yeah.

[@JacobTemplar]

I just wanted to say I’ve followed you and PJ since like 2013 or 14

[@alanpennie8013]

I reckon it was 2017 for me.

[@JacobTemplar]

@@alanpennie8013 I think I found them at the very beginning and I don’t remember how. Maybe from Tony Teflon

[@alanpennie8013]

That makes sense. Preston and Tony were the main people talking about the mystical side of the story back then.

[@JacobTemplar]

@@alanpennie8013 yeah and I was in graduate school and just started branching out into more YT content as well as searching for GOT content

[@valerialamberti9037]

I keep waiting for better dialogues in this season. Those epic ones of the first seson of got

[@Gary915]

I am not loving all the Daemon slander, it’s a bummer they just made him evil as fuck in the show when he’s not like that in the books

[@alanpennie8013]

The rest of The Blacks are good people. They need one evil one to balance things out.

[@TH3DUDE0075]

Totally agree about Cole - he is such a douche. It’s crazy to hate the actor because you hate the character. It’s one thing when you don’t like the actor because they suck in the role or they are a race/gender swap, but it’s straight crazy to hate the actor for portraying a character who you hate for their in world actions.

[@_addison4772]

32:31 how is he right??? Westeros is no where near its full strength in the show and they did fine against the walkers

[@AnthonyAutomatic145]

I think Hugh’s daughter is going to wind up being Nettles, even though they have zero relation in the source material, it seems a deliberate choice to include her as well as making her and the mother of brown complexion

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

It’s wild I hear people calling this boring or the last episode boring. Blood and cheese? Cutting off a child’s head is boring?! Parading that child through the street not knowing if the head will detach is boring? >.> wtf are shows doing to people where that is a snooze fest

[@Peridot0000]

But no big explosions = boring. Kidding because I thought it was brilliant, but some people prefer different things from TV so to each their own I suppose.

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

@@Peridot0000 people who feel that way might be watching the wrong show, both this and GOT is primarily political scheming and conversation haha Maybe if they pulled a Michael Bay with Linkin park songs it would pull in that crowd 🤣

[@zifircin1797]

The rat catchers dying and aegons popular opinion declining is not an opinion it's a fact, as tywin would say. So the lion sheep analogy doesnt apply

[@BobbyCoolBreeze]

Missaria say “Hamburger”

[@danielbasich2729]

If Cole tells Rhaenyra that the white cloak was the only thing he had to his name, doesn’t that imply he does have a good reason for hating Rhaenyra?

[@wisdommanari6701]

Pretty sure in Game of Thrones it took well over a month for the Ravens to go out and people to even begin mustering at winterfell. I think a total it was about 2 to 3 months before the Army was assembled negotiations were made and they were made to start marching south. I really enjoy Preston's video on Creagan Stark being a dick

[@mishasa2751]

Wait, do they want to pass Alicent and Cole's bastard as Maelor? But they are both dark-haired 😮

[@alanpennie8013]

They're gonna have to spend some money on hair dye. But if it spares Helaena being used as brood mare again I'm all for it.

[@mishasa2751]

@@alanpennie8013 I can't see Aegon ever agreeing with this sham, neither will Aemond

[@sdpearshaped831]

Finally we are back

[@muat1155]

The funeral procession scene, I thought it was fantastic. Heleana foreseeing the doom of Kings landing with the falling confetti turning to ash to resemble Dany's destruction in S8 of GoT.

[@emilieg4336]

I'm pretty sure most of the clan's men died at the Battle of the blackwater. Then maybe Tywin sends the rest away.

[@duncanidaho4565]

I disagree, they're all haters. they're jelly of Daemon because he's so rad

[@keitht24]

Their take on Daemon couldn't be more wrong. The show is clearly going out of its way to emasculate Daemon & make him seem weak.

[@Gary915]

@@keitht24yep, it’s so annoying too. Idk why the writers hate Daemon so much

[@sprinklesandwrinkles]

I think trey and preston are actually the same person 🕵‍♂️

[@brendanfechter4889]

There's not one bad actor. No Sand Snakes, no Gilly, no Grey Worm or Missandei, no Tommen or Trystane, no interchangeable Dothraki no cartoonish Pyat Pree Xaro or Euron. Not one hotd characters made me say "who is this why should I care". No every character in HotD is interesting, even ones we barely got to see ljke Harwin Strong, Laena Velaryon and Aemma Arryn. And the more minor characters i find myself curious to know more about. Like Aegons buddies Leon Estermont and Reyne and Waters, Mellos and Orwyle and Ironrod. Borros Baratheon, Bartimos Celtigar, Rhea Royce, Cregan Stark. GOT just had some terrible characters like the High Sparrow and Three Eyed Raven, while others who are impactful book characters are just kinda meh, like Barristan Roose Ilyrio Renly Loras Mace Euron Blackfish Beric and Thoros kinda were disappointments

[@justheretowatchvideosandco9424]

The actors for daemon and criston cole both suck. It’s not a character issue, they act like cartoons

[@rolandkloka]

Where is Preston? Secret CIA mission?

[@konstantinkrastev4478]

moving to south america

[@thenateo1610]

So yes then ​@@konstantinkrastev4478

[@TH3DUDE0075]

@@konstantinkrastev4478is he taking over the contra’s cocaine smuggling operation?

[@zifircin1797]

He's assisting the coup in bolivia

[@PainCausingSamurai]

I didn't get it until he started talking about Cregan Stark being an asshole, but... Sorry Quinn, you sound like Preston.

[@Knives7777]

Eh... I think Daemon is misunderstood. Not a defense but the standards of Age gap are very different in a setting where a 12 year old can get married to an old man. Rhaenyra was an idiot if she thought she could change Daemon. Also what older woman was he with really? Dude was after an Heir.

[@winterlord9942]

Imagine Alicent having to marry Larys to hide her pregnancy from Cole. Insane.

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

wat

[@DarkKing009]

90% of the cast are House of the Dragon are hypocrites, lies, and murderers. Especially the Nobles and princes. What makes the kingmaker so special and worthy of score?

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

He has no dragon

[@DarkKing009]

@@OfficialRedTeamReview Thank you, the people do hate the Common Man, In favor of the eugenics sorcerer King of House Targaryen. Bobby B was right.

[@Peridot0000]

​​@@OfficialRedTeamReview He is also less hot and less charismatic than Daemon.

[@DarkKing009]

@@Peridot0000 I still love Psychopathic Peacock Kingmaker. A simple knight from the Dornish Marches.

[@alanpennie8013]

​@@Peridot0000 Ser Crispy is just horrible. Daemon is horrible and interesting.

[@rylgerona7062]

Man I'm late sucks no notif from yt

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

You should/need to like and comment, algorithm will correct itself for you. or follow us on socials

[@duncanidaho4565]

he was eating his fruit loops yes I thought so too

[@yun9slim401]

Stannis and Renly faceoff season 2.. My favorite

[@TH3DUDE0075]

You guys judge Daemon too much by our modern standards. Damn near everyone married younger women because no one wanted “used goods”. Daemon is far far far from unique in this and shouldn’t be judged as “the creepy one” - look at Viserys and Alicent. You guys don’t understand what it takes to maintain power and control in an absolute monarchy - it requires someone like Daemon who commands respect and is going to offer you the carrot or the stick one time and after that you get the dragon instead. You can’t present yourself as superior but then treat your vassals as equals.

[@norbix-od7rt]

Yooooo pog cool podcast is back

[@Nick_Barone]

I’m one of the few that dislike Daemon more than I dislike Cole

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

;o

[@Gazkhuul]

brave

[@Longshanks1690]

I too have the incredibly controversial opinion that noncery is worse than being a hypocrite. Even if I don’t fucking know why that’s the controversial, unpopular take. 😂

[@nebuloushammer8773]

That's somewhat unique. Is there any particular quality about Daemon that really sticks out as the reason you dislike him so much? For example, I hated Walter White because he spent almost the entire show whining and making unpunished stupid mistakes.

[@brendanfechter4889]

I dislike both more Than I dislike Aegon

[@ygr6484]

Alicent was just an innocent girl who became Queen at a young age because of her father. And when she gave the King THREE sons, heirs, he chose to ignore them in favor of his eldest daughter. Basically, reducing Alicent to being a broodmare. Yet when she demands that her children are given their rightful inheritance, she is depicted as a grasping gold digger.

[@Peridot0000]

Because he didn't disinherit his eldest child Alicent became a broodmare? I'm not sure I follow your logic. Rhaena was crown princess before the sons were ever even born but she somehow stole a birthright they never had? If anything it's the reverse that aegon stole a position he was never promised, trained for or competent enough for.

[@ygr6484]

@TerraBranford873 oldest male son is the lawful heir

[@m.q.7149]

@@ygr6484 I mean Viserys was clear the entire time even before they were married that Rhaenyra was his heir. She could be mad about it sure, but his intentions were very loud and clear about that.

[@Peridot0000]

​​​@@ygr6484TBH the lawful heir in westeros is whoever has the most power to back them, it's kind of a shitshow there. But if I had to nitpick the one crowned to be the heir, had the great houses sworn to her, and was treated as such for 20ish years has the greatest lawful claim. Aegons only claim is that he is male. But I understand everyone has a difference in opinion.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

​@@Peridot0000Yeah, I agree Rhaenyra has the strongest claim. But if I was her, after the death of one child, I'd be booking it to Essos. She reaally digs her heels in. Her conceding the crown to her brother would be unjust, unfair, and a bit illegal, but it would have saved the realm so much pain. I know Aegon barely cares about the realm, but if Rhaenyra actually did, she would have stopped after the first few catastrophes.

[@nixielee]

'One of the best scenes in the entire franchise'? A frustratingly childish teen talk? An interesting opinion for sure

[@owleyes07]

A comment for the algorithm

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

One of the book variants says that Erryk killed Arryk but died of his wounds cursing his brother a few days long. A shorter version says they just killed each other because it knew no further details. The show added some stupidly dramatic suicide for no other reason than getting idiots to talk.

[@leomesser415]

L take not even a take

[@kneau]

Was this character someone you wanted to cosplay? I can't imagine other reasons for such a take...

[@TomNook-m4c]

I want to see Preston and the other guy, not the other guy and the other other guy

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

You'll get whatever I decide you should have. No more and possibly less, depending on my mood.

[@francisdoran8719]

Bruh, be kind rewind!

[@alanpennie8013]

​@@OfficialRedTeamReview You're the daddy now. Or at least, you're older than Trey.

[@kneau]

@@OfficialRedTeamReview but that burger is a sleeper death snack...

[@eversor10]

I cant stand Saint Rhae Rhae

[@aakkii5271]

I actually think Cole is a very tragic character, he put this mask of a narcissistic evil person since he killed Joffrey, and it all comes from the rules of Westeros, I think his character shows the tragedy of celibacy and sexual control over certain members of Westeros(Medieval) world. If he was not taught that sleeping with the princess(or any woman) was the most horrible thing, I think he would turn out to be a decent person. Also goes for the sactionity of the royal virginity that must be upheld by women in such society which is showed in Alicent.

[@johnnygreenface]

100% agree

[@justheretowatchvideosandco9424]

Very wrong.

[@MissBabyNe]

I dont mind Trey filling in for Preston, but can he tone down the use of the word "like" after every other word? It's getting very hard to listen and please dont take this the wrong way.

[@maxwell_j_R]

52:29 Yes, I'm glad that the show made them Strong characters.

[@lednus7196]

Trey

[@francisdoran8719]

I really didn't really vibe with this episode, it had it's moments but no could seriously have cared that Arryk and Erryk killed each other? I don't even know which was which! I asked my dad what he thought and he agreed the character work is lacking so far (he doesn't remember half the character idk if that's a point against him or the show though). There are two problems with the show right now: one characters aren't earning their big dramatic scenes (see the twins) and two the characters with conflict with each other are never in the same room anymore. I've been re-reading Feast and every Brienne chapter where nothing happens has more character than this entire season! I mean who is your favorite character in this show? And is that character better than your 10th favorite in ASoIaF? Hopefully I'm overreacting I want to see more of Aemond's bare naked ass and less of Criston Cole's one note ass. Why wasn't Jace fucking the Stark guy? It would too interesting? Nvm I'm just losing my mind maybe ep 3 will be good and I'll completely change I'll shut up.

[@phantomjoker5]

kino

[@kneau]

Translates to "bad"

[@MotherAce]

Bored to tears by this episode. Not entirely sure why "we" think its so great. To me this episode basically just didn't get much wrong. Very little instant travel teleporting, the writers attempting to make Daemon more villainous yet again(and thankfully failing), most annoying characters have a sex scene...again. Otto Hightower finally getting an interesting scene. We're not setting a high bar here. This entire episode had nothing on King Viserys last time on the throne from season one.

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

If this episode bored you then you never really like Game of Thrones. You just liked the dragons and sword fighting.

[@MotherAce]

I don't think you can even *be* more wrong. Also, I just wrote my fave scene from season one was the struggle King Viserys had walking to the throne for the final time. I think it's actually my favorite scene in all of GoT. No dialogue, just great acting, and Daemon helping his brother with the final steps(unscripted), set to satisfying music, and underlining the absolute struggle of a diseased King never appreciated in his time having to seat a throne that killed him. So yeah, the conclusion are my 45yr old self is a child who likes dragons and sword fighting. Obviously. Even more ironic since I just got home from the cinemas, yelling at my friends for dragging me to see a much worse than advertised action film. The genre I dislike the most. Or at least outgrew in the 90s. (all the scenes that should feel impactful didn't. They aren't executed to its full potential(outside of the Hightower dismissal), The crowds ire against murdering the ratcatchers felt flat, same with the murdered child procession. Quite frankly, the head geninely falling off, or at least starting to lose its stiches would have been the better choice. I mean, I understand what the writers want with most of the scenes, it's not acted out or extended to its full potential, everything felt rushed. (a common problem with the show in general) Rhanyera telling off Daemon felt yet again like they are hammerin' into the audience that he should be a villain. Makes me just dislike the writingroom instead. I barely even remember more scenes because half the things happening was either setup for things I don't know as a non-book reader, or I cannot know yet if its gonna be important or not. Maybe this episode gets better with time, right now it felt like a filler)

[@alanpennie8013]

​@@OfficialRedTeamReview Indeed. This was the first episode of the show I've enjoyed every moment of. The previous one was fine but nothing all that memorable.

[@kneau]

⁠@@MotherAce I hear ya but the long reply sort of feeds into their ability to poke you

[@MotherAce]

@@kneau yeah, I got a little bit triggered because the assumption made was about as wrong as it could be. My tendency is to become verbose when an accusation feels strongly unfair