Game of Thrones: War of the Five Kings & Battle of Oxcross 299 AC

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BazBattles

BazBattles

4 жыл бұрын

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@edwardokaa
@edwardokaa 4 жыл бұрын
I have big hopes for this Robb guy. What a tactician. Tywin doesn't stand a chance.
@cardaroy3556
@cardaroy3556 4 жыл бұрын
Uhhh..
@quinten9953
@quinten9953 4 жыл бұрын
The Lannisters send their regards
@ephraimboateng5239
@ephraimboateng5239 4 жыл бұрын
Lol should we tell him😏
@edwardokaa
@edwardokaa 4 жыл бұрын
@@ephraimboateng5239 Tell me what? I hope nothing bad happens to DA KING IN DA NORF! (srsly tho i know what happens...)
@edwardokaa
@edwardokaa 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-yi4de4tb4i Username checks out!
@jesusmurillo2014
@jesusmurillo2014 4 жыл бұрын
"3 victories don't make you a conqueror" - Jaime Lannister "Its better than 3 defeats." - THE FOOKIN KING IN DA NOOORF
@QT5656
@QT5656 4 жыл бұрын
Peak Rob.
@christopheriodice8611
@christopheriodice8611 4 жыл бұрын
It’s better then 3 defeats - Robb Stark
@zurgesmiecal
@zurgesmiecal 4 жыл бұрын
"it's better loosing one arm than one head" - Jaime L. "----------------" - guy with wulf head formerly known as King N.
@theodorberg8473
@theodorberg8473 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda cringe bro
@chrisoniceskates
@chrisoniceskates 4 жыл бұрын
Thought I smelled a Frey in the comments
@ToddTheTolerable
@ToddTheTolerable 4 жыл бұрын
You should cover the Battle of Winterfell so I can count the number of times you say "for some reason," during it.
@thorodinson5062
@thorodinson5062 4 жыл бұрын
Shuld i laugh or cry...😔
@jamesxm4240
@jamesxm4240 4 жыл бұрын
THOR odinson. Laugh , Joke of an episode
@ciroeverton9022
@ciroeverton9022 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@Derna1804
@Derna1804 4 жыл бұрын
"For some reason, the humans realized that the White Walkers could probably maintain a siege for 500 years if they wanted to, and chose to bait them into an assault. For some reason, this was never explained to the audience."
@hiddendagger7291
@hiddendagger7291 4 жыл бұрын
same with battle of ice
@thirdworlder5989
@thirdworlder5989 4 жыл бұрын
Ser Bryden Tully is the most underrated commander in westeros. The idea to lure jaime to lure into a trap it was his, because he knew jaime was reckless. And the plan to make tywin go to the west was also his.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 жыл бұрын
I bet three quarters of the ideas of Robb are Brynden's ones XD The Lannisters thought they fought a young impulsive 16 years old boy, while in fact they fought a seasoned fifty years old man ^^
@henryhenriquez8526
@henryhenriquez8526 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, if Blackfish have been commander entirely of Stark/Tully army instead Robb/Edmure, they would win the war.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 жыл бұрын
@@henryhenriquez8526 He could not be at two places at the same time ^^ And Robb seems to follow his advices, so he's not to blame for disasters. The only problem in battles were the mills one and... Yeah, Edmure is to blame, but Brynden and Robb too, if they had tell him WHY he have to stay put in Riverrun, he would never think to fight Tywin outside of Riverrun ^^'
@jhondahl3111
@jhondahl3111 4 жыл бұрын
do you mean the blackfish?
@doctorpygmy6020
@doctorpygmy6020 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhondahl3111 Yes
@TheSonOfDumb
@TheSonOfDumb 4 жыл бұрын
Robb was such a masterful tactician. If only he was a better diplomat!
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 4 жыл бұрын
He did send his mother to Renly with whom she struck a successful alliance which would have finished the Lanisters. Unfortunately, they couldn't predict that Stannis would send a shadow to kill Renly.
@JimBz84
@JimBz84 4 жыл бұрын
Theon Greyjoy...
@danny90099
@danny90099 4 жыл бұрын
He also send Theon back to his father and let them take the north in front of his nose.fucking dumbass who give away hostage
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 4 жыл бұрын
@@danny90099 Catelyn, whatever her flaws did warn him against this.
@Saeronor
@Saeronor 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad Northmen lacked anyone else they would follow as a king/queen. Imagine Robb doing the one ly thing he was really good at (leading an army), while someone with much higher Diplo stat makes strategic decisions. Hell, he should've been smart enough to name a Hand just for that.
@tylose875
@tylose875 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: There have never been five kings at any point during the War of the Five Kings, since Renly Baratheon died before Balon Greyjoy crowned himself.
@antoninvodvarka4921
@antoninvodvarka4921 4 жыл бұрын
What about the king beyond the Wall?
@crimsonfuse2727
@crimsonfuse2727 4 жыл бұрын
Antonín Vodvárka I think north of the wall is considered separate from the rest of Westeros. Even then mance didn’t participate in the war
@phrophetsamgames
@phrophetsamgames 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it takes time for Renly's death to spread which is why the smallfolk take to calling it the War of the Five Kings. They believe Renly is still alive and they just recently heard of Balon's crowning.
@saqlainalvi5485
@saqlainalvi5485 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex your rigour sir is legendary
@billqiu4692
@billqiu4692 3 жыл бұрын
@@phrophetsamgames In the books the common folk believe that Renly's ghost rose and fought at the blackwater, so there's that to take in too.
@MrUND3RSC0R3
@MrUND3RSC0R3 4 жыл бұрын
Bold strategy posting something game of thrones
@The_Sigillite
@The_Sigillite 4 жыл бұрын
Fallout Fjorn This is still early season stuff, about as safe as you can get for the moment. Plus, he's using book info to flesh it out and that will always win you points in this fandom.
@Harshhaze
@Harshhaze 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Sigillite agreed. Funny how content creators on KZbin do a better job of bringing life GRRM's work than Dumb and Dumber
@AdamsYoutubeAccount
@AdamsYoutubeAccount 4 жыл бұрын
They go based off the books I think
@vicentgalvan70
@vicentgalvan70 4 жыл бұрын
Dumb and Dumber,Ahhahahahahahahahahaha
@jjmbeausoleil
@jjmbeausoleil 4 жыл бұрын
Bold indeed. But we will take any baz over no baz
@thebigsad9463
@thebigsad9463 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Bazbattles: I'll post a game of thrones video a month after the series ended just to rub salt into your fresh wounds
@thekingofgoons
@thekingofgoons 4 жыл бұрын
How could they do something so controversial yet so brave
@WQuantrill
@WQuantrill 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up, idiot. I’ve been waiting for this one!
@AdamOfEverywhere
@AdamOfEverywhere 4 жыл бұрын
ASOIAF is eternal
@papageitaucher618
@papageitaucher618 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamOfEverywhere eternally spoiled
@lucasribes2253
@lucasribes2253 4 жыл бұрын
well, actually this video is based on the books so...
@mgkpraesi
@mgkpraesi 4 жыл бұрын
This Map shows even better how ridiculous the Teleporting starting with Season 6 became.
@ericgrimes341
@ericgrimes341 Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda lost during the show, but Jaime was actually a captive in Robb’s camp for over two years. At least in the show, Jamie seems so diminished after captivity.
@iceace4277
@iceace4277 Жыл бұрын
@@ericgrimes341 What, seriously? I thought he was only a captive for a few months.
@iDeathMaximuMII
@iDeathMaximuMII 5 ай бұрын
​@@iceace4277In Season 3 he mentioned to Brienne that he was held captive for over a year
@Societyman123
@Societyman123 4 жыл бұрын
You know they messed up when the battle of oxcross is more interesting than the final battle against the night king
@mohammadahmad9258
@mohammadahmad9258 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@MajorMlgNoob
@MajorMlgNoob Жыл бұрын
Well the writer didn't write the Battle of Winterfell, the Showrunners did
@tylerd8245
@tylerd8245 Жыл бұрын
@@MajorMlgNoob Oh weallyyyyy? We didn't know that!
@AlucardDracula1000
@AlucardDracula1000 4 жыл бұрын
It was a brilliant move, cut off the supply chain. Starve tywin of fresh troops, fresh steel, and fresh food. Most importantly cut off lanister gold, if only Robb had committed to the long strategy rather than a short one.
@seankirby8892
@seankirby8892 4 жыл бұрын
Well it was edmures fault because tywin was going to defend his land except at the stone mill edmure pushed him back and robb was going to bring tywin to Lannis port then because the starks where mounted he was going to get around him and trap him in the west. But because edmure didnt know this and stopped the crossing giving time for word of Stannis attack on kings landing to reach him so he turned his army around. So of edmure didnt stop the crossing Stannis would have taken kings landing and robb would have trapped tywin in the west.
@bmomgrimm6242
@bmomgrimm6242 4 жыл бұрын
@@seankirby8892yeah but since he didn't explain it to edmure he is partly to blame.
@youtoob4life
@youtoob4life 4 жыл бұрын
@UCyWP_ou-tng-WqHPRmnddvQ To be fair, Edmure was most likely ordered to remain and defend Riverrun. His marching out on his own to claim his own victory and glory is perfectly in line with his character. Robb's failing was relying on a man that he had very little personal experience with.
@seankirby8892
@seankirby8892 4 жыл бұрын
@@bmomgrimm6242 that's true except he told him to hold riverrun not to go fight battles
@theZinator
@theZinator 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Kirby it was Robb’s fault for not informing Edmure of his plan to trap Tywin in the Westerlands. He should’ve anticipated that Edmure would fight Tywin if he came back through the Riverlands.
@matthewtang8930
@matthewtang8930 4 жыл бұрын
"He won the war on the battlefield and lost it in a bedchamber."
@9822703
@9822703 4 жыл бұрын
except he didn't it was in the great hall of a host's castle.
@cheesycheese23
@cheesycheese23 4 жыл бұрын
@@9822703 i think he's talking bout twyin
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 3 жыл бұрын
@@9822703 *He lost the war the day he married her.*
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you guys to cover Stannis battles in the North(book version of course)
@strikemasterice2004
@strikemasterice2004 4 жыл бұрын
Kings & Generals have covered the Battle of the Bastards, so now I want see the real Battle of Ice with Stannis going Alexander Nevsky on everyone asses.
@p-ball_from_SEA
@p-ball_from_SEA 4 жыл бұрын
@@strikemasterice2004 Hell yeah to that, the Night Lamp strategy is going to be awesome
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
@@strikemasterice2004 Hope in the end he will not die offscreen.
@drownedcactus5618
@drownedcactus5618 4 жыл бұрын
Weary Hoss Are you knees frozen fool? Bend the knee for King Stannis!
@murphyjack90
@murphyjack90 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they do cover the book version. The show battles have been shite.
@dankmeme1598
@dankmeme1598 4 жыл бұрын
This single video is a lot better than the entirety of Season 8. Thanks!
@atzuras
@atzuras 4 жыл бұрын
Tywin's army tried to cross the river but Edmure's enthusiasm prevented him to enter the trap and thus managed to get to Blackwater's battle.
@dukeofasg3280
@dukeofasg3280 4 жыл бұрын
@LagiNaLangAko23 Yes, it would have been suspicious if Edmure let Tywin cross unimpeded, but stopping the Lannisters dead in their tracks was really bad fortune.
@Name-me5su
@Name-me5su Жыл бұрын
if you think about it if edmure didnt do that the House lannister would have dissapeared as a great house
@jonathanbradley4896
@jonathanbradley4896 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't Tywins army, it was just Gregor Clegane's troops.
@rurhmcwatch9410
@rurhmcwatch9410 4 жыл бұрын
A young man is sitting in his room playing video games when he gets a notification from KZbin. Bazbattles has uploaded a new video. He grabs his cheetos and reclines his chair and settles in.......... a new video from Bazbattles is about to begin.
@smug9471
@smug9471 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment
@rahimjoseph211
@rahimjoseph211 3 жыл бұрын
A man has no name
@Ignisan_66
@Ignisan_66 3 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@smithswoodrookie
@smithswoodrookie 4 жыл бұрын
Wish they’d have had the budget to show these battles on more detail on the show. Robb would have been even more respected than he was leading up to season 3
@ranica47
@ranica47 4 жыл бұрын
In the earlier seasons they didn't actually show that many of the battles in detail, just the aftermath out whatever because they had decent dialogue and scripts. Later seasons: big battles with crap dialogue, long, beautiful shots with NOTHING said and nonsensical tactics.
@gfilmer7150
@gfilmer7150 4 жыл бұрын
@@ranica47 Yeah, lets just march on a strong castle with only half the numbers and hope I won't ambushed or surrounded. Brilliant!
@leonpaelinck
@leonpaelinck Жыл бұрын
Rather a well written battle off-screen than what we got post season 4
@gabrielsacco1731
@gabrielsacco1731 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I love game of thrones battles
@Ozepyon09
@Ozepyon09 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I really hope they continue
@dildoshwaggins4134
@dildoshwaggins4134 4 жыл бұрын
Pre season 7 battles are great.
@theodore23sanchez
@theodore23sanchez 4 жыл бұрын
Except season 8 battles
@JBrander
@JBrander 3 жыл бұрын
Robb: (tries to form an alliance with the Greyjoys) Balon: *ARE YOU CHALLENGING ME??*
@rizkyardan5760
@rizkyardan5760 4 жыл бұрын
THE KING IN THE NORTH!!!!
@XiyuYang
@XiyuYang 4 жыл бұрын
Ardan Da King In Da Norf!
@krimzonstriker7534
@krimzonstriker7534 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for including the Battle of the Camps with this one. Please stick to book lore only as well, the extra details and intrigue are far better then in the show :D
@MichaelMedici61W2
@MichaelMedici61W2 4 жыл бұрын
KrimzonStriker absolutely, 100% agree with you
@NanoLT
@NanoLT 4 жыл бұрын
When the AI ignores your fort zone of control and stack wipes your drilling army.
@jamesoneil9132
@jamesoneil9132 4 жыл бұрын
When a rebel stack spawns on your low maintenance army
@dawn-blade
@dawn-blade 4 жыл бұрын
What is this a reference to, friend?
@jamesoneil9132
@jamesoneil9132 4 жыл бұрын
@@dawn-blade Europa Universalis 4
@EliAs-ub6yf
@EliAs-ub6yf 4 жыл бұрын
Fookin Ai Rebels. Spawning under my training units.
@harryjackson3867
@harryjackson3867 4 жыл бұрын
That’s just crazy I was just thinking about your channel and then a new vid pops up
@markthervguy
@markthervguy 4 жыл бұрын
I was as well just yesterday????
@ChrisDynamo
@ChrisDynamo 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that we didn't get a real video, just this bollocks instead (and I say that as a GoT fan). There is no need for these silly videos, why can't we get real history instead? This channel has lost so much ground to Kings and Generals, History Marche etc. despite once being the King, and it's taking no steps to regain what it once had.
@felixblack1106
@felixblack1106 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDynamo going to have to disagree with you chief. Baz battles is still the kind of storytelling.
@ChrisDynamo
@ChrisDynamo 4 жыл бұрын
@@felixblack1106 Bullshit. Making cop out videos about a few vague lines in a book trying to pander to GoT fans, they're the kings of nothing. Your second sentence makes me believe that you're a youtube history channel casual, because there's a plethora of now superior channels. I'll list the shit out of them for you if you're looking for enlightenment.
@harryjackson9469
@harryjackson9469 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDynamo Well I mean Kings and Generals do Game of Thrones vids as well and we all still love that channel, Bazbattles still usually does historical battles so there's nothing wrong really
@adib3011
@adib3011 4 жыл бұрын
The moment Robb lost was when Edmure Tully decided to stop Tywin from passing into the Westlands. Robb had planned to destroy Tywin with an ambush and Stannis meanwhile would have crushed King's Landing.
@UnitedTheLegend
@UnitedTheLegend Жыл бұрын
He didn't want to destroy Tywin, he wanted to trap him; in fact Edmure's instructions was to retreat to the side and let Tywin pass, then snap the blockade of the Westerlands shut BEHIND Tywin, this would mean that if Tywin wanted to defend King's Landing from Stannis he would've had to face all of the Riverlords behind him, and Robb Stark in front of him in the Westerlands. It's not really an ambush, more like encirclement which would've been absolutely catastrophic (bear in mind, Tywin didn't actually know that Stafford's army was defeated at Oxcross, Tywin probably thought he could surround Robb Stark with one army to the West of him, and his army to the East; instead Stafford Lannister was dead and Robb and the Riverlords wanted to trap Tywin. He was very lucky that it was Edmure and not the Blackfish that was commanding the army in front of him.
@Wizard434
@Wizard434 Жыл бұрын
Nah. It was a strategic error sending Theon Turncloak. If he doesn't send him away he keeps his hostage and keeps Winterfell and keeps Jaime as prisoner. That single decision cost him everything.
@UnitedTheLegend
@UnitedTheLegend Жыл бұрын
@@Wizard434 To be fair, the fault lies in Balon Greyjoy for thinking he would actually have a chance to subjugate the Northern Lords rather than just joining the combined attacks against the Lannisters who were far wealthier and had a very small navy compared to them or Stannis Baratheon. And to be fair, at least he knew the Lannisters had no honor and would probably let him keep his stolen lands, but if the North/Stannis won they would've forced him to return any stolen Lannister territory.
@leonpaelinck
@leonpaelinck 10 ай бұрын
You can't blame Edmure. Robb did not inform him about the big plan. Edmure did what he thought was the right thing to do. In the end, Robb lost because he was in a losing position from the start. You cannot expect everything to go according to plan.
@omoshiroi3648
@omoshiroi3648 4 жыл бұрын
I hope baz battle just follow the storyline from the book, instead of the show.
@GabrielBelmont4727
@GabrielBelmont4727 4 жыл бұрын
There is no storyline to follow if he goes by the series
@fibo4108
@fibo4108 4 жыл бұрын
What? People expect him to do this kind of video for, say the Battle of the Bastards? There's literally no background to any of the series' original battles, so rest easy.
@lickylick6483
@lickylick6483 4 жыл бұрын
Just started reading the first book, is it worth reading all of them?
@TheGrimHHH
@TheGrimHHH 4 жыл бұрын
@@lickylick6483 Yes, the books have much more content and are better written than the TV Show.
@samarkand1585
@samarkand1585 4 жыл бұрын
This one battle wasn't in the show, so here's your answer
@ou6775
@ou6775 4 жыл бұрын
George R.R Martin’s work is phenomenal! Wish D & D had more then cinematography brilliance
@ThePhantomTomo
@ThePhantomTomo 4 жыл бұрын
Robb's battle tactics were simply amazing. He would have won if it weren't for all the betrayals. Tywin is so lucky the Freys and Boltons were traitors. Robb was not going to fail.
@apex_1515
@apex_1515 Жыл бұрын
No he wouldn't have....
@johnchard4856
@johnchard4856 Жыл бұрын
He sealed his own fate breaking the marriage pact and alienating the Karstarks.
@howhigh0521
@howhigh0521 4 жыл бұрын
I legitimately love you for flushing this Battle out. When I read about all these details in the book I had so much hope the show would capitalize on the cook details of the twins landscape and Robb's ability to worg. Thank you for this 😊
@zerosternritter566
@zerosternritter566 4 жыл бұрын
Still better than the final season of GoT
@lilwater7358
@lilwater7358 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah its funny how all of you destroy your love for the series just because some things were not like you wanted.
@provablegrub4581
@provablegrub4581 4 жыл бұрын
Laszlo Official The fact that you can critique something shows how much you love it. Season 8 was not good, that’s a fact. You can like it if you want, but objectively the writing was bad.
@jorgeferreira2009
@jorgeferreira2009 4 жыл бұрын
@Ghostkripp true. But there are a lot with the same opinion ... in this case, how many opinions do you need until it's a fact?
@otterhero6229
@otterhero6229 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgeferreira2009 an Impossible number of opinions. Regardless of how many people agree with you, the quality of art is relative and there can never be a factual definition as to whether it is good or bad.
@jorgeferreira2009
@jorgeferreira2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@otterhero6229 can't argue with that. I guess that people were just disappointed on how things turned out, but hey; it was 8 seasons and truth be told, it was still a great show.
@bejoysen4468
@bejoysen4468 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad when you remember Edmure undid all of this by fighting Tywin's men outside Riverrun. This gave envoys from the south enough time to reach Tywin with news of Stannis's attack on King's Landing, so he turned back to defeat Stannis. Had Tywin continued to march west, his whole army could have been massacred and the war ended.
@Thrawn23.
@Thrawn23. Ай бұрын
Then Stannis would have taken Kingslanding and Robb could marry Margery and Edmure to the Frey girl. The Frey's would still see it as a slight on Robb's part but his first born son could marry a Frey and take her as his queen and everything would be cool for the most part
@jaimelannister1797
@jaimelannister1797 3 жыл бұрын
Robb should've had a POV in A Clash of Kings so we could actually see all of this
@adamduke1505
@adamduke1505 4 жыл бұрын
Please continue this series! It’s so helpful in following the chaotic story that is GOT. Thanks for the quality content.
@serjaimelannister5152
@serjaimelannister5152 Жыл бұрын
The War of the Five Kings was entirely winnable for the Starks, and they lost almost entirely due to terrible luck.
@simonrobillard
@simonrobillard Жыл бұрын
Damn Lannisters and their plot armor !
@pmmeyourdadjokes9811
@pmmeyourdadjokes9811 11 ай бұрын
They lost because Robb betrayed the trust of a notoriously scheming, backstabbing family whom he relied on for safe passage into the south
@803bucho
@803bucho 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately for us Stark lovers this is a story smh plot had to save Tywin and all of em but if this was real yeah there’s no way the Starks woulda lost.
@leonpaelinck
@leonpaelinck 8 ай бұрын
No the problem was that Robb's goals were too ambitious. No way to hold thenorthand tje riberlands
@cieranosullivan3636
@cieranosullivan3636 7 ай бұрын
​@@leonpaelinck Lysa and Balon not supporting this war for independence on the side of Robb was the biggest issue. If Robb had a larger support base, from people who SHOULD have supported them - then he would have won. But GoT is character focused rather than warfare/kingdom management focused
@countdooku756
@countdooku756 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this.
@Basedbateman97
@Basedbateman97 4 жыл бұрын
Instead we All blame Edmure for his "Error" to attack the mill where the mountain were, Edmure and his forces were not "Told" to follow a certain plan just to drive Tywin and his men West. 1 Word "Communication" it's the fatal Error sometimes. If Edmure "Knew" Robbs plans along with Robb's "Deal" with Stannis to lure Tywins Army west and not to Kings landing Then Tywin would Have moved west but Edmure's attack Alerted him... It's sad Stannis would Have taken The trone, have Tyrion, cersei and her childern in chains if not Already Dead and Tywin would Agree to insane terms in order to secure a peace deal simliar to The treaty of Versailles completly breaking house Lannister
@MrJH101
@MrJH101 4 жыл бұрын
Although, yes, I agree that lack of communication was indeed a problem, however, Robb also couldn’t risk sending a raven from where he was at towards Edmure to tell him those plans. Note that these strategic plans would have been made directly after Catelyn returned to Robb from her diplomatic mission down south and no one else knew the info she was bringing. And no one had expected Stannis to defeat his brother and absorb his army to then immediately make a move on King’s Landing. Only Catelyn possessed this info she was giving to Robb. So if Robb had sent a message telling Edmure the new plan with Stannis to rush King’s Landing while Tywin was distracted, the Lannister forces could have shot down any raven or rider sent. If that happened, the Lannisters would have discovered this new information too and it would have immediately been reported up the Lannister chain-of-command to Tywin. Thus, the plan would have been ruined even without Edmure doing anything. You have to understand that the logistics of communication back when militaries had no radios, no satellites, and no telegrams was a hell of a lot more difficult back then than it is now. Any messages sent out had a lot more risk of being intercepted and never even making it to their intended destination. So communication from the field (especially if in hostile territory) all the way back to base was not only difficult, but specific details must also be left out in case of interception. In the end though, this event was supposed to show that mistakes happen in war, even if they were well-intentioned mistakes. What unfortunately got cut from the show though was the scene where Robb Stark openly praises Edmure Tully in front of the court as a war hero for his brave actions in driving off The Mountain and saving Riverrun. But then when all the other vassals and subjects are no longer around them, that’s when Robb reprimands Edmure in private for messing up their plans. This was supposed to symbolize how a leader is intended to act with their followers: *To openly praise your subordinates in public for their actions, where they can be seen by others; but to criticize them for their faults in private, so they will learn and not be publicly humiliated.*
@9822703
@9822703 4 жыл бұрын
his orders were to hold Riverrun. Edmure sought glory and left the defenses of the castle and attacked Tywin. communication was clear. Riverrun was the castle. the Riverlands is the region.
@gfilmer7150
@gfilmer7150 4 жыл бұрын
@@9822703 Edmure did it in the books because Tywin's men were butchering women and children. Riverrun was full of refuges who lost their homes to Tywin and The Mountain. He attacked Tywin because he felt it was his job to defend his land and his people
@9822703
@9822703 4 жыл бұрын
@@gfilmer7150 not denying that, but most of the riverlords were sent home to reclaim their lands which is why holding riverrun isn't a hard task to understand. edmure not having enough men pulled the garrison from the twins to aid in his battle of the fords which was an unnecessary. The battle risked soldiers they could not afford to lose. had he lost that would have been a whole new disaster. however, he ventured out first for vengeance as he was humiliated during the first siege of Riverrun where he was captured. this time he seeks glory and Catelyn questions his judgement. not blaming him 100 percent. The orders were obvious and his mistake wasn't the battle necessarily but the removal of the garrison from the Twins to do battle.
@gfilmer7150
@gfilmer7150 4 жыл бұрын
@@9822703 They were, I'm just saying he wasn't a complete douche like in the show
@janklaska3026
@janklaska3026 4 жыл бұрын
Literally best channel on ytb for history even fictional battles. Keep up the good work!
@dirkdiggler4855
@dirkdiggler4855 4 жыл бұрын
Despite the north being a vast, cold, barren wasteland, Balon decides to invade them instead of the RICHEST KINGDOM in the seven kingdoms
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 3 жыл бұрын
Yep he was always stupid
@ohhhmindy4380
@ohhhmindy4380 3 жыл бұрын
These are so helpful to those of us who are visual learners. I’ve read these battles multiple times, but your videos bring them to life in my mind. Nine times out of ten the books are better, for me, battles are the one out of ten I choose imagery. Hope you do more from the ASOIAF series!
@OverLordthe1st
@OverLordthe1st 4 жыл бұрын
One of the few channels i have alerts for, thank you for making this day even better.
@MetProSOWC
@MetProSOWC 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I discovered your channel
@_random_guy
@_random_guy 4 жыл бұрын
rob (king in the north) : sends theon to his dad to convice him to help rob in this war balon (theon's dad) : proclaims himself as the king of the iron islands and attacks the north
@rickstalentedtongue910
@rickstalentedtongue910 5 ай бұрын
The move that lost the war.
@helicongremory8480
@helicongremory8480 4 жыл бұрын
When your brother-in-law as the same name as you do, you know there is a problem somewhere.
@JerichoJulius0
@JerichoJulius0 4 жыл бұрын
Cousin marriages were pretty common in nobility.
@deg1studios
@deg1studios 4 жыл бұрын
Tywin was married to his cousin Joanna Lannister
@zzadoKK
@zzadoKK 3 жыл бұрын
Just found you yesterday actually and I love the stories and the graphic presentation. I pledge FEALTY
@MrAsb10
@MrAsb10 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me how much I loved and enjoyed GoT!
@joeydillon2
@joeydillon2 4 жыл бұрын
Why tf don’t you have atLEAST a Million subscribers my dude?? This kind of content right here is KING ! Thank you for posting this sir.
@cookingtimewithmikeydubbsc2017
@cookingtimewithmikeydubbsc2017 4 жыл бұрын
Love these GoT battles keep them coming
@MichaelParthum
@MichaelParthum 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered these videos. Love it! Look forward to the rest.
@brittanyfehlings6838
@brittanyfehlings6838 Жыл бұрын
Even after reading the books and watching the show, there's so many details I missed, it's nice to see it done in little bits on these videos.
@wayfaringman8418
@wayfaringman8418 4 жыл бұрын
I love Robb Stark. Bazz Battles for the win!
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes its hard to realize How deep they went and how costly oxcross was. The North was really in a disavantage by sheer numbera in the war
@wouven4517
@wouven4517 4 жыл бұрын
The research and dedication to detail that go into these vidoes is astonishing.
@davidwatson7196
@davidwatson7196 4 жыл бұрын
This was great!!! I can watch videos like this until the Game of Thrones prequel comes out next year. Thanks again!
@christianvennemann9008
@christianvennemann9008 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I'm so happy whenever I get a notification about a new vid by you, especially if it's Game of Thrones!
@bretviola6871
@bretviola6871 4 жыл бұрын
Christian Vennemann I always assumed that Mance was supposed to be shoehorned into the discussion.
@tancreddehauteville9983
@tancreddehauteville9983 4 жыл бұрын
I’m early! To all my GoT brothers and sisters I salute you, Valar Morghulis! 🙌🔥
@Colin-kh6kp
@Colin-kh6kp 4 жыл бұрын
Tancred de Hauteville valar dohaeris, good ser
@wrenmcfarlane1987
@wrenmcfarlane1987 4 жыл бұрын
Haha season eight is big bad! Valar Dohaeris
@immortalinsurection5
@immortalinsurection5 4 жыл бұрын
Valar Dohaeris
@bittu2507
@bittu2507 4 жыл бұрын
Valar dohearis
@TheLongWind
@TheLongWind Жыл бұрын
I love those undiscovered goat paths that perfectly fit your battle plan
@MikeCheckVR
@MikeCheckVR 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please make more!! Continue it from here, amazing video. Love it
@bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780
@bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780 4 жыл бұрын
We need the battle of Stannis in the north with the wildlings (book version of course). You have to, it was one of the most epic battles.
@gfilmer7150
@gfilmer7150 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they way his men cut down the mamoths and shouted Stannis' name when they won... Still gives me chills. The good kind.
@elhorno6934
@elhorno6934 4 жыл бұрын
Now that I am done with my Uni exams, I can’t stop waiting for your videos with excitement. I was late by 15 mins, next time would be as soon you upload :D
@funnytimes2152
@funnytimes2152 4 жыл бұрын
Good job man 👍
@edofluit6568
@edofluit6568 4 жыл бұрын
wow what a achievement! 15 mintus jeez
@elhorno6934
@elhorno6934 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@mailkefe6813
@mailkefe6813 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable work.
@guillaumelefebvre6010
@guillaumelefebvre6010 4 жыл бұрын
Merci pour les sous-titres en Français !! Vivement les prochaines vidéo des batailles du livre !
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 4 жыл бұрын
When the trees start shouting "The king in da norf!"
@brandonjackson9207
@brandonjackson9207 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Baz Battles, Now I want to play Mount and Blade. great video
@luisandrea3221
@luisandrea3221 4 жыл бұрын
Omg same, i just started earlier this morning a AWOIAF run
@rasmuslyhne9199
@rasmuslyhne9199 2 жыл бұрын
This is better than any world war 2 documentary. Well done! So captivating :D
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better maps of Westeros I've seen. Good clarity.
@nikfaizal97
@nikfaizal97 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Ned Stark was still Hand of the King
@JackDManheim
@JackDManheim 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying 'Obliterated' instead of 'Decimated'.
@ranica47
@ranica47 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Decimated - it's in the word folks - means killing one in ten, not routing.
@TenkenSoujirou
@TenkenSoujirou 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your narration and the animation...tyvm
@ravan9352
@ravan9352 4 жыл бұрын
You have shown nicely those 5 kings at the end! :)
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@paulozhan 4 жыл бұрын
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@guts7958
@guts7958 4 жыл бұрын
have you ever thought about doing other fantasy battles like Lord of the Rings and Warcraft heck even Final Fantasy I love your videos just wondering is all
@frodobaggins6684
@frodobaggins6684 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done!!!
@reaver1414
@reaver1414 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the actor playing Stannis was so much older on the show I forgot that he was Roberts younger brother until you mentioned it and reminded me even though I've read the entire series multiple times. That just shows how much the more recent show information can overshadow the older book info. It makes me think I need to reread the series again now that the show is over and we are waiting for the next book to be released
@_Tristen_
@_Tristen_ 3 жыл бұрын
“Do you still believe good soldiers make good kings?” - Renly Baratheon
@lordgrinch1349
@lordgrinch1349 4 жыл бұрын
More please!!
@XiyuYang
@XiyuYang 4 жыл бұрын
Man this is uncanny, I thought earlier to myself that I hope your channel uploads a new video about battles in GoT. Opened KZbin and it just popped up!
@ScorpioRahl
@ScorpioRahl 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. Now it looks much more logical than I used to see in my minds eye. Great, GREAT movie. Hats down to You sir!
@Cahirable
@Cahirable 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of things to note: 1. Jaime's camps at Riverrun (or at least the one facing Robb) were fortified with stakes and ditches, not completely undefended as depicted, and the first phase of the assault was to kill the sentries and remove the stakes for the cavalry attack. 2. Jaime's camps didn't need to be that exposed, since any competent commander would have built pontoon bridges to link his camps. This kind of thing wasn't unusual in the least during the Middle Ages (see the sieges of Chateau Gaillard and Aiguillon). 3. Robb's plan was never to launch a surprise raid on the Westerlands, but to take the Golden Tooth and draw Stafford away from Lannisport so that the Greyjoys could take it/raid the coast with impunity (Theon I, ACOK). While an ambush battle might still have happened, it probably would have been after either Robb drew Stafford on by pillaging the countryside and had tired the Lannister infantry out, or else when Stafford was being indecisive about which enemy to face (possibly in conjunction with the Greyjoys for a pincer attack). Oxcross was an improvisation, not the plan. 4. The books definitely imply that the path Robb's army took last the Golden Tooth was quite close to it, rather than some great circuitous route around it (Catelyn V, ACOK). 5. The fact that Robb had to march somewhere in the order of 200 miles without detection, including past major castles such as Sarsfield, and lacked the manpower to invest each and every castle to shoot down ravens and prevent messengers from leaving, is glossed over. The lack of attention to distances and time was also a major flaw in last video, wherein Robb travels over 200 miles in a night and Roose and Tywin each march over a hundred miles in the same night. Overall, the impression given in the video was that Robb was just 100% genius rather than a massively impulsive risk taken with an obscene (and unbelievable) amount of luck, which is entirely wrong.
@shanemac1646
@shanemac1646 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard the lion heart
@gendarrion911
@gendarrion911 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make the battle of blackwater next based on the books? that is the most decisive battle in war of the five kings.
@Exigentable
@Exigentable 4 жыл бұрын
These are awesome. Cant wait for more.
@DevilGiga
@DevilGiga 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more videos on naval battles. Yours are REALLY good
@kurtcobain3426
@kurtcobain3426 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the days of season 3...
@bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780
@bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780 4 жыл бұрын
This is from the books not from the shit show.
@suleymanthemagnificent3072
@suleymanthemagnificent3072 4 жыл бұрын
High Quality bro 😃
@thecrusaderhistorian9820
@thecrusaderhistorian9820 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It was very nice to watch.
@eduardocornejo2903
@eduardocornejo2903 4 жыл бұрын
I was just hoping one of subscriptions would post. Couldn’t have asked for a better one!
@EAGLE-fq2zm
@EAGLE-fq2zm 4 жыл бұрын
we need more
@rishi7629
@rishi7629 4 жыл бұрын
One minor mistake... Tullys sallied out of Riverun on a sortie & took the crossing Lannister men from the rear on Blackfish's side.
@spankey88
@spankey88 4 жыл бұрын
I love the maps you use
@ulrich3486
@ulrich3486 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was awesome love your videos!
@dwaleck
@dwaleck 4 жыл бұрын
I think this kind of video should be on a secondary channel, keep real history on this one and put "fantasy" on another one (still loving your job anyway :D )
@valarvinbucais6342
@valarvinbucais6342 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video about the Battle of the Fords
@ramsram2418
@ramsram2418 2 жыл бұрын
stil waiting for more , very good work !
@doombane95
@doombane95 4 жыл бұрын
This is video is much much better than the whole season 8, thank you very much
@Cencrd
@Cencrd 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a meme GOT battle video: "The Battle of the woods where Robert lost to a boar"?
@brittonlashley5347
@brittonlashley5347 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do mor historical battles
@brittonlashley5347
@brittonlashley5347 4 жыл бұрын
Like some of the Egyptian wars or some fights about Hannibal
@deepred6041
@deepred6041 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Loved it!
@loooongneck
@loooongneck 4 жыл бұрын
The style of these videos is dope
@juangomez7586
@juangomez7586 4 жыл бұрын
Blackwater battle is the next yeahh or not ??
@deg1studios
@deg1studios 4 жыл бұрын
Either blackwater or the ironborn invasion
@piercecbell
@piercecbell 4 жыл бұрын
Will there be a part 2?
@Ag-qr6ii
@Ag-qr6ii 4 жыл бұрын
Bro this is amazing make more ☝🏽
@athenian9795
@athenian9795 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
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