Game Theory: FNAF, Buried and Forgotten (Security Breach Ruin)

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Friends, Since Five Nights At Freddy's Ruin came out there have been SO many unanswered questions within the community! Which Security Breach ending is canon? Is that OUR Fredy? What really happened to Cassie? I'm here today with all of those answers and MORE! So get those VANNY masks on so we can all see the TRUTH together!
Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick, and Tom Robinson
Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, Tyler Mascola, Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi, KL Allen, Pedro Freitas and Warak
Sound Designer: Yosi Berman
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#FNAF #FiveNightsAtFreddys #FNAFRuin #RuinDLC #FNAFSB #FNAFLore #FNAFTheory #FNAFSecurityBreach #Theory #GameTheory #Matpat

[@GameTheory]

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[@Alessandropollok]

Cool,thanks guys

[@Idk-hz4hq]

You forget to pin this I think

[@Chessnerdguy]

Third coming on MatPat’s

[@Deb-_-]

That radioactive merch is fire

[@luigiboyrune1869]

how long's it gonna be in the store? i get 10 bucks every week and only have 16.25 rn.. i cant justify myself to ask my mom to get me it 😣

[@Marmondos420]

I haven’t played a single fnaf game, but I have all this lore stored in my head for no reason at all.

[@SpadeAndMoony]

Same

[@zaventoriguian6951]

You got a point

[@annabanana9705]

same. I've binged watched markipliers whole fnaf playlist on repeat like 10 times. I know all the lore by heart

[@inconvenientstrike1180]

Same

[@grn1]

ditto

[@julianspatter]

The idea that Freddy was taken out of the AI system because he was rebooted in safe mode could also help explain why Roxy saved Cassie despite having been shut off. Perhaps instead of actually shutting Roxy off, Cassie actually rebooted her (like the daycare attendant) and being rebooted into safe mode explains why she can be taken off the network (no longer being a security node) but still able to get up and save Cassie.

[@MandoGuy12]

Why is everybody so much better at Theorizing than me

[@sondracovert5467]

@@MandoGuy12fr

[@epicpikachuxyz]

Now this makes so much more sense

[@jetshaler]

My theory is Gregory was actually at the pizzaplex when he contacts us before the chase, Walkie Talkie's don't have the best range after all. So I think he and or Vanessa rebooted Roxy, who quickly came down to rescue Cassie, and Gregory and or Vanessa destroyed the elevator (for what reasons, we don't know yet.)

[@Dont_Read_My_Picture]

Don't read my name

[@Mr.Jelloshot]

Sounds like matpat is starting to enjoy fnaf lore again. Last few videos sounded like he was close to losing his sanity 😂

[@randomsavageperson2918]

Every video sound like he's a loose canon ngl it's just MatPat

[@user-tm6pj5ry6z]

​@@randomsavageperson2918He is Ness from fnaf, which is canon for real 😅

[@randomsavageperson2918]

@@user-tm6pj5ry6z what does that have to do with like anything said here bro?

[@user-xd6rs6jd3y]

he's been losing his sanity over this lore since fnaf 4

[@QuaxtonFR]

looks like matpat is losing his sanity and uploading less, lets encourage him with a controlled shock!

[@chrange9714]

Roxy's endo isn't changed from the original SB at all in Ruin, she clearly put on another Endo face as a "mask" to hide her grotesque look after her snout probably fell off when the place collapsed. Furthermore while it does line up that the headless Freddy is the remains of Freddy from the main game, Steel Wool wouldn't have put "prototype" on his foot for no reason or as a design change from the base game.

[@thegamergrookey2268]

Yeah, this probably ties into Freddys unused voiceline of "older models" (yeah he is probably talking about past games Freddys but it also could hint at past Glamrock Freddys)

[@sweetbnuy]

Either way, it is leading that this Freddy is not on the Vanni like the Freddy we knew, and he doesn't have a head too. We might need more information as to why he is not the same Freddy if he isn't, cause there are more pros than cons for him being the same then for being a different one.

[@user-uk6cd3dy6u]

I COME FROM THE FUTURE, you're pretty much right actually. she takes a mask in help wanted 2.

[@purplepepperoni3646]

Yup it is a mask in help wanted 2 you’re supposed to give Roxy a makeover after her face got destroyed. She gets fed up then takes the mask

[@bennyboiart7781]

At this point, with all the layers of old structures and caves that exist below the Pizzaplex, I can't help but imagine that it's located on a suspiciously large hill that towers above the surrounding city.

[@prettydragonbaby112]

😂😂😂

[@bipbapboop1140]

next fnaf game is set in the core of the earth, under the pizzaplex

[@valliemcc8352]

I've always just been curious how many km deep these locations are, if the pizzaplex mall is at ground level

[@kevinwest7111]

@@bipbapboop1140 So what we're going to do when we emerge on the other side of the Earth? Go into space?

[@CuzRuns]

​@@kevinwest7111FNaF 58: Freddy in Space😂 I think it's in FNaF World

[@Just_Some_Gal]

Guess this means yet ANOTHER "Final FNAF Timeline" from Matpat is inevitable

[@Legithiro]

Nah, give it 2 or 3 years first

[@quackelstheduck2040]

​@@Legithiro*months

[@JodaroKujo]

Jojo part 10

[@Karma-gb1xb]

Let’s be honest… Matpat is inevitable

[@JackieQueenz]

@@Karma-gb1xbfax

[@parkermorgan6890]

“Am I saving Cassie is Charlie? No. I might one day” is the perfect description of MatPat and ever-growing fnaf lore

[@theanonymous3098]

Not sure if this has already been touched on, but does the post-it note room from Security Breach have any more relevance now that Ruin has been released? Perhaps they were attempting to train it, before it was sealed away? It could even be proof of that the whole Edwin story may have some truth to it.

[@darthvape9411]

The Matpat Incident will be forever remembered as one of the most comedic contribution to the Speed-running Community.

[@oantran8060]

ok

[@dadreiantennyson4489]

What did he do?

[@dragonballsucksass4378]

@@dadreiantennyson4489 he found a glitch that made him skip an entire chapter in the ruin dlc

[@turtleyapirate5270]

He found a glitch that let him skip a huge section of the game, ironically it was a pretty lore heavy part

[@hellofellowbotsss]

wasnt that found before he accidentally did it tho?

[@colekiesler6218]

MatPat 2014: Freddy is our main enemy he will never die. MatPat 2023: Rest In Peace Freddy

[@MrAdd077]

It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[@bones0013]

@@MrAdd077 It is what it is

[@Ruby3P]

@@bones0013It is what it is.

[@A.s2476]

​@@Ruby3Pit is what it is

[@demoknight1951]

@@A.s2476it is what it is

[@BonesNeverLie]

Remember when you had to watch the curtain to see if it had moved? And if it did then you have to close the vent so foxy wouldn’t get you. Simple times.

[@TheLordOfAllPineapples]

It's 2 in the morning, ive just had the worst week of my life, i don't have any will to live anymore, and yet here i am. Watching matpat explain five nights at freddys lore again.

[@triaurorar3291]

I hope you are okay and that you get help if you need it.

[@heeroomi]

hope everything gets easier if you need an ear we can exchange contact info (socials) take care

[@TheLordOfAllPineapples]

@@heeroomi thanks, but ill be fine in the end, itll get better

[@ana..a.]

y u telling us that?

[@erikakerboom2101]

tmi bruh

[@leofoster6231]

Only Matpat would find a speed running strat looking for hidden lore in a fnaf dlc

[@KunzLevi]

fr

[@Mimic525]

That’s him

[@zephyrhowtogaming1836]

​@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial is the bot so just ignore it

[@quythai68]

you should totally translate this comment that i commented using google translate because i dont speak Burmese ငါပြောတဲ့အတိုင်း မင်းလုပ်ခဲ့တာလား။ နည်းနည်းရှက်စရာကောင်းတယ်မဟုတ်လား

[@ChillGuy2854]

@@zephyrhowtogaming1836 report the bots

[@personexisting123]

Matpat truly never escapes FNaF huh? He’ll always come back.

[@koolgamerryes8122]

Nah@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial

[@mosterchife6045]

Just like these bots 💀

[@EEE-1409]

​@@mosterchife6045KZbin BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE BOTS

[@samurexatlas7373]

The other OTHER Anti-Afton.

[@teamsteed1]

Nope.

[@reddoorstudios7103]

I’d love to see how the blob ties into this. Like Gregory says the damages were cause by something escaping and the blob is sighted near the surface.

[@tonyf4991]

Sadly, this MatPat video made me cringe hard. He got so many things wrong, that I would honestly hate to see him to try explain the Amalgamation and drag it into his craziness.

[@litzyantero5274]

@@tonyf4991 Could you explain what he got wrong? Not trying to be rude js genuinely curious

[@tonyf4991]

@@litzyantero5274 I can, but it would have to be after 7 as I am working right now. But I will break it down tonight for you, and you'll see why I said what I said.

[@tonyf4991]

@@litzyantero5274 I hope all this helped.

[@user-sx4qu4dz9z]

@@tonyf4991Sadly nothing will top the cringe of your profile pic

[@Mr.Bubbles_Official]

A thing I noticed: Sun and Moon have the same teeth as the Mimic. They used to be jesters, maybe they were from circus baby's? Meaning that the mimic was from that era. Kinda interesting.

[@abyzzicss]

I think the fact that Matpat and John have almost identical theories regarding the books is so cool.

[@mago_malvado96]

​@DJILMarioBrosOfficialNah

[@childeofepickness]

@DJILMarioBrosOfficialdon’t care

[@Gaming_Stuff]

@DJILMarioBrosOfficialNuh uh.

[@GusThePrankster]

John?

[@chrisdescoteaux6851]

I was just coming to comment that. So true.

[@malikai5643]

it’s pretty obvious that the story has been improvised over the years… but Scott’s ability to make every new part of the lore be parallel and make perfect sense with the older games is unmatched.

[@librariantopokemon]

Scott has mentioned that he has only retconned ONE thing across all the games. So ether this was all planned from the start, or...

[@Thaiph_Kaard]

Idk about PERFECT sense, but yeah, it is pretty impressive.

[@jasonalen7459]

@@librariantopokemon What was the thing he retconned?

[@ic0nic707]

Perfect sense isn’t a word I’d use.

[@RazvanMaioru]

​@@jasonalen7459idk if it's confirmed or just speculation but afaik the general consensus is that he retconned the bite of '87 into the bite of '83

[@TheSeabornGaming]

I’m glad that we also finally got the answer about Bonnie. I still don’t know how to feel about the Freddy we see be out Freddy. It feels like the “Prototype” being on his foot is really important. I’m excited to see the follow up for this theory.

[@fhggaming777]

so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool

[@Infinite7A]

this franchise went from reminent and agony to AI very quickly.

[@PinkyGTagRRFnafBS]

Ai is a lot more dangerous in real life than you might think, my friend

[@noneyabeezwax6904]

True, also remnant not reminent

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

Meh , never really liked the remnant stuff but AI has my attention

[@crupplemcsplits792]

And, to me at least, it's a welcome change.

[@chiryo1224]

it was a smart shift to make, considering remnant and agony were pretty consistent with only being mentioned in the books it made making new fans to get into the lore difficult, to make games that retroactively take the books and shift the way the power scaling works in the series is brilliant.

[@KingONFFE]

MatPat and John sharing a brain cell with these theories is the second funniest thing that came with this DLC, behind the *huge* collab 😂

[@peelychallenges6942]

And 3rd place goes to the monty dog memes

[@WardenCraftOffical]

Yeah

[@sami_lynn]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@WardenCraftOffical]

@@DJILMarioBrosOfficial i know who you are bot. Stop commenting on videos nobody wants to sub to your scam channel

[@lilconch]

Bro I just realized. John is probably going to have a field day with circus baby being made by Henry. Can't wait to see how he tries to justify it as a stolen Charliebot

[@adhdnd-ace]

This actually makes finding chica’s voice box make more sense! For the princess quest ending, Freddy either has chica’s voice box or Monty’s claws. Prototype Freddy has Monty claws, but it’s unclear if it has Chica’s voice box. We can find and re-insert chica’s voice box because it wasn’t put into Freddy.

[@thegamergrookey2268]

It wouldnt explain why she is so damadged (most of the damage caused by gregory) and has zero voice box

[@sarus-x1422]

It actually would not make sense because the Vanny ending is part of Fazer Blast, so that means going Chica's path was canonically first and Monty's was second. Freddy should have the voice box regardless, but we find him without his head. The voice box isn't inside him, though it *should* be nearby Freddy along with Monty's claws. The only reason it isn't is most likely because it was part of an abandoned side quest.

[@ryszakowy]

"they seem to react to your flashlight for whatever reason" they did it guys "somehow palpatine returned" is used as a legit way to explain plotholes

[@TimeBucks]

The lore is actually starting to make sense now

[@mysticassassingamer]

Cap

[@usmanshakil2597]

Nice

[@dimasasongslowedreverb4724]

Nice

[@namantherockstar]

MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@speakrightwithbritishdiction]

Yeah, indeed.

[@pixlr.]

wow Matpat finds lore that doesn't burn absolutely every one of his brain cells!

[@Noperison]

Fick five frendy

[@Noperison]

@@DJILMarioBrosOfficialshut

[@randompersonontheinternet2024]

​@I_hatenegros1 what you only made one video that just a clip

[@randompersonontheinternet2024]

​@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94just stop literally no one will read your name

[@Snowy_Panda-Gaming-INC]

​@@I_hatenegros1explains why u have 7 subscribers

[@Your_cringy_goblin]

Who's rewatching these theories now? 👇🏽

[@HeartlessNobody24]

Going back to watch the Full Timeline I noticed something. The Pig playing the Banjo has GREEN AND BLUE EYES! I think even on the same sides as the Tiger animatronic. And MatPat always says Scott doesn’t do coincidences and he’s always careful about color. So there must be some kind of connection to that Pig.

[@JosephDaley-dt7rz]

I think the 'Prototype' on Freddy's foot was more of a clarification from Steel Wool. We see and hear a few times in Security Breach that Freddy has glitched out at least once before, and that Freddy is the only one that has any power issues at all; the other animatronics don't need to recharge as often as Freddy does. Freddy also isn't sure if he's the first "Glamrock Freddy," implying that there may have been more Freddys before the Freddy we meet in Security Breach.

[@annitarayadita772]

Actually…This makes sense

[@Aereto]

More Freddys than you can ever Freddy for Fazbear's

[@snatch6129]

@@Aereto5 freddy’s at night

[@lightdarksoul2097]

They say though that Freddy would be replaced by having his parts put onto another Endo they wouldn't need to do all that if there was another Freddy implying there is one casting per animatronic

[@namantherockstar]

MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@autumbreeze1129]

I was laughing as I watched Markiplier playing the game when it got to The Mimic. My literal first thoughts were "MatPat was right on the money here"

[@jaydabomb2510]

I bet everyone that denied it and thought it was stupid felt really dumb that day when that scene happened. 😅 Never underestimate Mattpatt haha

[@legendarytronic7774]

@@jaydabomb2510 Even if Mat was wrong we all have to remember it was just a Theory A *GAME THEORY!*

[@jjj6854]

I loved watching Mark call out MatPat in his video 😂

[@levicarpenter5509]

​@@legendarytronic7774thanks for watching

[@autumbreeze1129]

@AdalineAlice I... think you meant to post this as your own comment instead of as a reply to me. Makes it sound like you're congratulating ME for the video when I had nothing to do with its creation 🙃

[@aliciabarnum7400]

I have a theory about The Mimic from the Ruin DLC. Hear me out, what if The Mimic is possess by the man himself William Afton.

[@tonyf4991]

He is still trapped by Cassidy. Plus, him and GlitchTrap wouldn't see each other as enemies.

[@noraiscool56]

okay but like when he said that the tunnels were sister location i slapped my keg and my jaw dropped. this lore is fitting together to well

[@mini_sparklez9611]

The fact that the editors really labled it the "MatPat Incident" makes me wanna cry tears of joy for Spigg

[@krllo14]

I was going to mention spiff if no one else did but it was only 11 comments down yay

[@liz8640]

omg i know i was looking for a spigg enjoyer comment about it!

[@namantherockstar]

Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@Alec11_43]

It’s such a relief to know that the Princess quest ending is most likely canon and that Burntrap/Glitchtrap’s relationship with Afton might be more complicated than initially thought.

[@justaperson1692]

Now what if there were 2 timelines one with aftons ending on with princess quest that would be my most huge relief yet as the afton ending was said to be canon before ruin

[@namantherockstar]

MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@uneducatedturtle1492]

@@justaperson1692yeah that’s what is confusing, because why would Gregory make up a version of spring trap when nobody has ever seen spring trap, and the blob/enard/funtime Freddy. Like some parts have to be cannon, plus there is a charging pod where Afton was, same as the ending. It just doesn’t make sense unless that means ruins not cannon or something which is most likely not the case.

[@chaosomega623]

This would imply that Afton is still in Ultimate Custom Hell and that Burntrap is actually just the Mimic 'mimicking' Afton

[@usagifang]

​@@uneducatedturtle1492maybe Vanessa, after being freed, told Gregory about what happened and what she was forced to do.

[@MaxiiSMP]

I love how Mat says he runs away after shaking your hand. It reminds me of those kids in elementary school who would go "My friend got a crush on you" then run off

[@sagunkhadka5010]

Thank you, Matpat for everything.

[@colekiesler6218]

Imagine one day, MatPat will do a theory on Glamrock Bonnie except it will be Markiplier’s theory to be more canon in the lore.

[@grac3estranqe]

MatPat will go crazy if so 😂

[@sulembape695]

​@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTjokes on you bot, that is my native language

[@sam1_2_1]

​​@@sulembape695 bot defeated!

[@ElsaCatInc]

It would be hilarious if they made Mark's Bonnie theory cannon. I mean *obviously* Monty was just trying to be helpful and he was the one who placed the wet floor signs around Bonnie so no one else would get hurt.

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

Important detail someone pointed out. The Mimic's costume during the scooper ending looks like it was trying to *mimic* Gregory. Brown hair, blue shirt, bracelet on left hand to mimic the watch.

[@peytonmac1131]

I've heard that before. It's quite a neat idea.

[@m_artroom]

Oh you absolute genius

[@rebeccascono456]

Thank you matpat for everything

[@brandonwilliams6221]

Man really said, “there were crows in the movie Dumbo so therefore the bird costume is definitely for Circus Baby’s.” He could have left that piece of “evidence” out 😂

[@Mafia_3000]

I find it very interesting that John Fuhnaff and Matpat came up with such similar theories seemingly separately

[@nathankoh5286]

was looking for this

[@merry_whatever]

Mat usually just echoes what the theories are on the fnaf sub, but he also usually credits ppl. So im not sure if they both thought of it separately on their own or if they theorized together

[@griffentyndal3890]

I think ryetoast also had something similar

[@Apxcalypse]

@@merry_whateverI’m guessing it was just a big coincidence or maybe they worked together behind the scenes as it does not take just a couple days to make a full game theory and johns video was only released a couple days ago

[@arianewinter4266]

Well go figure, people come up with the same stuff if they have the same information.... It happens, you do not want to know how often I came up with a revolutionary book idea only to later find out, that the concept already existed and I am now afraid to get hunted by copyright should I write them..... One example I had monster hunting witches that gainers power through high risk herb and monster concoctions that either killed or forced mutation and either way rendered them infertile. They where protectors but dispised for humans fear what they do not understand and they tended to have inhuman attributes like unnatural hair and eye colors....... Their school was not high up in the mountains but hidden like avalon on an island in a lake behind a veil...... But otherwise it sounds hell like the witcher... Which I did not know when I was 14 and came up with this idea, but sure as hell already existed. And a more commen theory, everyone and their blind cat came up with r+l=j in asoiaf

[@Salemchevy]

Matpat is honestly surprising in how he can make lore from this dlc that doesn’t destroy all the hard work he has put in on other theories

[@mateomoreano9]

Ruin DLC is the goat, it really tied up some loose ends on some theories

[@fireball2275]

@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT no

[@supergripevolution5964]

​@@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENTYou cant order me

[@liamwatson1042]

13:00 what if Freddy remembers glamrock bonnie

[@Eeeee-rb3vm]

Bro the vanny mask looks so uncomfortable 1:49

[@colekiesler6218]

The fact that MatPat’s recent video actually feels like it could possibly be canon to the actual lore, means that MatPat has now starting to fully take it step by step and not go all out at once. The only thing now left to piece together is to figure out what truly did happen to Glamrock Bonnie.

[@that.obsessed.FNAF.fan.]

He had a theory that monty did it. The video is titled: Golden Freddy is in SB

[@alli_ocat]

Can we look for Foxy too? He's just gone and in sb, the kids cove is obviously inspired by him but it's shut down with "banned" written all over but we all seemed to breeze over that ?

[@ronaldmcdonald69420]

The only reason he took it slow is because he stole johns theory

[@bfodoesstuff]

bonnie was obviously doing some sick bowling tricks smh

[@Pylon.Boi03]

There’s a secret cut out of Glamrock Bonnie in Monty Golf where he frozen falling in place. Since security logs in SB say Bonnie was last seen in Monty Golf, and because there’s claw marks on him. I think it’s safe to say Bonnie went up to the catwalks above Monty golf, And Monty attacked him and pushed him off.

[@liamfaust7805]

It's very interesting to see both Matpat and Fuhnaff realized that the first 3 books are very closely related to Fnaf Ruin and future games. Goes to show how important these books are.

[@nanuqo2006]

Why are they completely disregarding Tales From The Pizzaplex then

[@Uncle_the_one_shot_kid]

​@LOGAN_FLOOR_CONTENT we don't talk about those

[@Dinosaurs847]

@@nanuqo2006 Because only some parts are actually relevant to the major lore of the game, like for example The Mimic and GGY.

[@tobiletsplay]

Yea maybe they talked together

[@homerman76]

​@@nanuqo2006 They aren't disregarding them, Matpat brings it up anytime the series connects to the lore at hand, such as when he brought up the mimic story. However, not every tale connects back to the lore of the franchise because the books are still in their own universe, even if they have parallels to the games.

[@Steven-lz1vo]

I love how the editor put the princess quest ending up twice when showing all the endings

[@cry2368]

One think I would like to point out is that in the story Cleithrophobia we see Grady a construction worker go down to a secret underground location about Ballora. I always thought this was weird but now it makes sense kinda. Matpat I think your right with this one. Also the Ballora animotronic is an AI since it can communicate with Grady (Not sure it only really said let me help you get out).

[@FourEnderBros]

If the FNAF series ever comes to an end, I seriously hope Cawthon releases an entire book explaining every single mystery and lore snippet that has been created as he has released each game and book. I would love to know which theories Matpat and the gang were spot-on about and which were completely false.

[@duck8049]

AGREED

[@jazminescicluna2607]

Yesss

[@TheArgon14]

Lol I wonder if Cawthon even knows it all at this point, he's probably relied on awesome theorist communities to fill in the gaps for him! Which would be kind of cool to learn about after the fact.

[@YanntastischGER]

I love how Ruin makes use of camera, flashlight, and mask. Classic FNAF mechanics but now in 3D and over the top. Way better integrated than in the main Security Breach.

[@that1rancerfollowerphone138]

In the cameras you can use sound to lure them away... so the first 3 games

[@KC-tx3ko]

If Freddy not seeing vanni was because he’s not on the network, does that not then infer that Gregory (who did see her) is? I.e. evidence of his being a robot?

[@baapadap2026]

This actually felt like matpat was just on a roll with how everything just lines up perfectly. Major dubs as usually.

[@jeremytrippin7961]

I've been rewatching all the old theories, and god dang, Mat calling the timeline complicated at FNAF 3!? Wild looking back after all this

[@SpadeAndMoony]

Ikr

[@SarahShaner-hs4rg]

(Note) I haven’t watch the video yet, so I don’t really know if he already said this but my theory is that the Freddy that help does the original Game was the prototype I had the original Freddy glitched, so they went to fix him that’s why he didn’t attack because he’s not the original Freddy

[@danielcanter603]

I like how at the end of this video mat said he would say something about Cassie's dad

[@SeekSeekLest]

I'm going to be completely honest. I come to these partly for the soap opera that is Five Nights lore, but mostly for Mattpat's energy while he delivers it.

[@Asi-Lives46]

Same here.

[@Dont_Read_My_Picture]

Don't read my name

[@ineffabletryx6528]

I do the same thing, but then I just find myself getting angry that the lore makes no sense

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎ ‎

[@UnblyndeMusic]

Indeed

[@GrandSenseiDarreth]

More evidence for the links between Ruin and SL is that in the Fredbear ending we hear Gregory saying “I found somewhere to hide” which I thought was way too similar to Baby talking about how they wanted to hide in Mike’s body, thus making me believe that it was the Mimic that gave that final Gregory voice line and Cassie got replaced Ennard style whilst she was hallucinating that final image for the ending.

[@jakekiper9294]

Oh, and here's another thing; When Ennard replaces Michael in SL, he comes back, and I noticed something about the Brazil (Fredbear cutout) ending, when the mask is put on, the image slowly gets clearer, as if Cassie's consciousness is being uploaded to the VANNI network, meaning she could come back after being replaced by the mimic, Just like Mike comes back after being replaced

[@yohann3825]

It’s kinda confirmed ig? Spoilers ahead for taps of the pizzaplex so skip: But in the latest epilogue a girl gets crushed bones and all by the mimic while it enters the suit she’s hiding and it wears it. So that explains it especially since the voice line is the same one it used before especially with the hyper ventilating from Cassie and the name and reference.

[@gravital5213]

5:04 Oh boy, only game theory could make a reference that bold

[@Rydernort]

13:19 my issue with this idea is that even if Freddy is separated from the AI network, that means that he should be able to see the world as it’s regular self. Since he isn’t a part of it, he should be able to see Vinny. If anything, Vinny should be the one unable to see Freddy

[@kellenoconnor4396]

Loved the slow escalation of book lore in the games from “namedrop of William Afton in SL” to “Mimic showing up with zero buildup”

[@MrCardz]

Yeah, pretty much.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I mean to be fair afton showed up a ton before the books were even out

[@sammyjaohnson5631]

William Afton was named droped in the silver eyes first before sister location 😐

[@itsdomtoo]

@@sammyjaohnson5631book name drop and game name drop are not the same, they’re different canons.

[@kellenoconnor4396]

@@sammyjaohnson5631 yeah, I’m saying that was the beginning of the integration of book lore into the games

[@placeholderblankspace]

It’s so cool to see how far Matpat and his Team have come, that merch segment is honestly pretty cool

[@notawamen2311]

sure its cool but nobodys catching me wearing a shirt with a youtubers name on it

[@JEVIL755]

@@notawamen2311yeah.. same

[@ana..a.]

@@notawamen2311straight up 😭

[@dramaqueen5458]

Exitly right

[@sidehustlekevin]

I love Matpat and his team, but... How is plastic merch, likely sewn in China, likely by children, "cool"?

[@Thundertron900]

I love that the endings in ruin are called neutral, scooper, and Brazil.

[@DomusNebula]

The fact both Mat and John connected TTO to Ruin literally days apart makes me think they are going to do a genuine collab theory one day

[@tiredafidk]

Ikrr

[@treali]

Depends what Mat can offer John after ripping of his theory and shoe-horning it into this video. I can't be the only one who realize how rushed that part about the connection with the novels was? Mat is a fraud.

[@Dont_Read_My_Picture]

Don't read my name

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎ ‎

[@pixoljef7830]

@@treali? Cave system with glowy stuff is a specific setting. Its not a stretch that both came up with that

[@MangoTheBeardie]

I literally cannot understand how matpat can come up with this stuff, it’s so insanely impressive

[@berniebare371]

I mean, it’s not hard. Ruin is very explicit with its story

[@KryptoKn8]

Alot of drugs, presumably, disguised as diet Coke

[@moondiamond9340]

@@KryptoKn8Diet Coke itself might as well be a drug, that stuff is addictive if you like it 😭

[@michaelbryant467]

Mat should do a game theory on the jumping Julian game.

[@ohwhyithurtssomuch6192]

Turns out he straight up steal a lot of other people's theories, not to say he doesn't make his own at times, but it's less impressive when you consider plagiarism

[@Panceak]

15:09 Pokemon...?

[@mattman15]

A personal theory I have is that Cassie has been trapped in the VANNI network from the moment she put her mask on. The books have this common storyline where once the main character gets into the AR story, there’s no going out. They may think they left the system, but they’re actually still inside. That would explain why Helpi is able to talk to Cassie even when she’s not wearing the mask.

[@Skeliosis]

Watch matpat make 50 more episodes based on a dlc that lasts around 2 hours to beat

[@sieksa1]

my content is better

[@danyialkhan4107]

Ye

[@CatsRuleMeow123]

@@DJILMarioBrosOfficialok!

[@CatsRuleMeow123]

@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.94I will🤪🤪🤪

[@richardlong4942]

I feel bad for you becuase basically all of the replys are bots

[@Limbambo]

Glad its confirmed that Gregory decided he was going to play an arcade game instead of turning the robots against Vanny in an attempt to stop everything.

[@CoolaidBanks]

He’s a gamer

[@IcecoldWaluigi]

Maybe Gregory realised the arcade games had some sort of virus that linked to vanny or hes just a true gamer

[@Smiuley]

Honestly, given the books and the story GGY, it makes so MUCH more sense for Gregory to spend his night playing arcade games. It also gives him a motive to be there in the first place: Find the Arcades that he hasn't played yet.

[@SOOA083]

Adhd child

[@namantherockstar]

MatPat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@agentnull5242]

Hear me out, the scooper used in Ruin is the same one used in Sister Location. Sister Location is *under* the Pizzeria Simulator Location, which is under the pizzaplex. Not that impossible considering SL is already underground.

[@sirwoofers3578]

This makes me think that scott hired a dedicated fan and theorist to tie up his own franchise

[@thatssomavin]

That fact that MattPatt and John from Fuhnaff have curated and crafted such similar theories on their own excited me for the final end game. It’s so cool seeing Fuhnaff’s journey, and him rising the ranks as one of the best FNAF theory crafters out there, rivaling ol Matty Patty. You gotta love the come up

[@JFTArchive]

There is a difference between being the best and being popular

[@qu1ckl1zard73]

@@JFTArchivedamn man no need to hate

[@JFTArchive]

@@qu1ckl1zard73 I ain't hatin' but saying he's one of the "best" FNAF theorists is subjective

[@orewaren8549]

"the best" only applies to matpat btw

[@JFTArchive]

@@orewaren8549 that's even more subjective. He's popular theorist doesn't make him the best either. Not bad by any means but he's not the best.

[@imjustsomebunny]

About Freddy, I think it's also important to mention how in the base game, when he's in Parts and Service, Vanessa threatens him not by saying that he'll be replaced, but by saying that they'll "slap his casing on a new endo", which implies they don't have the ability to replace him. Furthermore, in the van ending where he leaves with Gregory, Monty ends up replacing him and Mr. Hippo fills the empty spot in the band. While comedic, it still shows us that Fazbear Ent. just doesn't have another Glamrock Freddy readily available to replace him if he's irreparably damaged, because he is a prototype. He's most likely the only one. In fact, I'm willing to bet that there's only one of each of the Glamrocks in existence. When Glamrock Bonnie disappears, they don't replace him with another Bonnie either, which shows they either don't have another, or making a new one isn't very feasible. Instead, he's replaced by Monty, and they don't even bother to rebrand the bowling alley.

[@consecrator8688]

The animatronics must gain sentience through self learning, but it is really hard for Fazbear to replicate for different endos. So when an animatronic dies and they can't copy him accurately, they just make a new character. Choosing an endo that they have trained, making him a skin that suits his character (angry Monty gets a Crocadile skin), and then wiping his memory of being an endo but leaving his character.

[@consecrator8688]

This is why Fazbear would love to have a mimic program!

[@OceanMedeiros-fj2on]

If the princess quest ending is the cannon ending, it why does the burn trap room have a charging station? If William Afton was never there, why is the charger there? Please answer MatPat, I must know! :)

[@syweb2]

7:10 Two of those spots are taken by different shots from the Princess Quest Ending. You may want to check that. 17:25 Pretty sure that Tales is being much less subtle about how it connects to the games. Paying attention, it seems like it's just _in_ the games' timeline, just with a few communication or writing hiccups between Scholastic and Steel Wool, so assuming that Edwin is just an AU version of Henry is holding less and less water with each new book. 23:15 Elizabeth's always been associated with green, though; specifically, her green eyes, which replace Baby's original blue.

[@aSussyAmousMan]

I love how a singular character gave new meaning to basically every part of the lore

[@vengeance6833]

Which character

[@Jaxonlewis24]

@@vengeance6833the mimic

[@howdy-573]

Just want to say that, I'm amazed with how you make theories. I can't even imagine how the team must know ALL lines from FNAF to find all of this. Really mind blowing

[@namantherockstar]

Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@sunnyd4ze]

because they don't...liek there's just straight WRONG info in this video 😭

[@line7596]

@@sunnyd4zewhich info is wrong? If u don’t mind sharing

[@1ntegerLimit]

@@sunnyd4zewhich part is wrong?

[@jonny8638]

Imagine Casey is the daughter of Michael

[@cristinaa.r03]

I do have a question... If Glamrock Freddy can't se Vanny at the beginning of Security Breach because of his "safe mode" and isn't capable of doing so until he gets Roxy's eyes, why is Gregory capable of seeing her from the start? Wouldn't it mean that Gregory is somehow connected with this AI?

[@josephbiddle1637]

One extra detail I noticed that supports the headless Freddy being Gregory’s Freddy assertion is his hands. Only Monty is supposed to have those sharp, heavy claws. Hence, Freddy would only have them if that was Gregory’s Freddy equipped with Monty’s claws.

[@oddstar4291]

With reference to the daycare attendant and the 'why is he here' moment, I can say with certainty that he is here exclusively to make me happy. That is all and case closed, he is doing amazing 😂

[@elizabethlacy8869]

I KNOWW it's so true like the daycare attendant is one of my new FAV animatronics ever since security breach first came out and hearing MatPat say 'daycare attendant' in the video honestly made my heart skip a beat from excitement for the return of the character

[@choian9953]

ok

[@h0lodm0966]

for fanservice AND HE HELLA SERVED like the king he is🔥🔥

[@alexinator-hh5fe]

Honestly, Baby being around or relevant even now makes sense to me. Reason being, Baby mentioning that we are in a Springlock suit on Night 4 felt so off. We never see what the suit looks like. But it implies that the Funtime Animatronics still had unanswered questions surrounding them. It just felt like such an odd thing to leave open ended

[@danyTheGamerKiller]

Dont we see ourselves inside the speinglock suit in vr or smth?

[@Ultima-bo5dr]

@DJILMarioBrosOfficialbot

[@grizzlygamingzz8145]

@@danyTheGamerKillerthat was Freddy if you’re talking about the end of the game

[@danyTheGamerKiller]

@@grizzlygamingzz8145 in fnaf help wanted we are in a sister location springlock suit(if I remember correctly.)

[@grizzlygamingzz8145]

@@danyTheGamerKiller wait before I sound dumb what part of the game?

[@garettsaltvick7060]

Ok you’ve probably gotten this question a million times by now but if the comics are just Gregory using his imagination for the other endings than how does he know about the blob and burn trap.

[@Ravensfan2k]

Mat-pat never fails to deliver

[@andrewferri7732]

Ruin was such a blast to play, it really showed Steel Wool was correcting their mistakes and I really appreciate that! I'm also so happy for Matpat, he absolutely nailed the story in his last theory video! I'm also glad we're finally getting a new villain instead of Afton again haha

[@Princess_Blue380]

As willam afotn always says I always come back

[@justwolf3937]

One note: the Vanny mask you use isn't the one Vanessa wore in SB, but it is the exact one used in Help Wanted alongside the Glitched Bonnie Plush to talk to Glitchtrap

[@vincentmorris8431]

Could be along the line of changes like Roxy's endo. But even then, Ruin had a bunch of wires in the mask, and Dreadbear's was a more flesh red interior.

[@w1ndgeneral226]

Not to mention it's called a "security mask." Which might mean the security guards wear those as well. It might be possible that the Fazbear company was in on Glitchtrap's plans.

[@Epsicronics]

​@@w1ndgeneral226could also just be that the security and maintenance staff wore some other AR gear, more appropriately themed, and Vanny just implemented those into her own mask, given Helpy is the AI assistant in the mask, plastered all over the pizzaplex maintenance stuff and is the mascot for the save stations, the original mask could've been Helpy masks, would make sense for the kids too, they see a bunch of helpys go around fixing stuff.

[@TRG_R17]

😱😱😱

[@TRG_R17]

Reply 5

[@elementoflight6834]

Technically Henry already did create Baby, in the way that he was the one in the Silver eyes trilogy to create the adult version of Charly, which was turned into Baby by William. I find it a bit weird that we have 2 Henries from the book series that somehow explain Baby in very different ways... I would love to get a Henry comparison between Silver Eyes and Tales from the Pizzaplex's Edwin. If Edwin truly is a standin for Henry in the books... why not use the already established Henry from the Silver Eyes instead of making a similar parallel character with a different name.

[@quantumblauthor7300]

Because the franchise is monkeys with typewriters

[@Circus_baby_1]

9:28 there is a blue bow next to the vanny mask. In the books Elizabeth is seen with a blue bow. You once theorised that vanny = vanessa and vanesssa = Elizabeth ,which this links perfectly with the blue bow. Just a lil theory lol 😅.

[@z2qy655]

Seeing matpat go from finishing the timeline to going insane having to update it brings me great joy 😭

[@Noperison]

@@I_hatenegros1go away

[@destroyerofeps2714]

This reply section is a reminder of the failer of humanity

[@Foxythe_piratefox]

You have unlocked 3 bots

[@landongreen7510]

He’s joined William in purgatory

[@susgayuchiha481]

​@@destroyerofeps2714*failure

[@asagothe_fander]

The one thing I’m most excited for with the set is the fact there are pockets on the leggings. You almost never see pockets on any women’s clothing! *Thank you!!*

[@tamtri6218]

ok

[@danhtranquoc3745]

ok

[@mr.manguyfellow1591]

ok

[@isabelortiz1230]

ok

[@ytrav]

ok

[@BlazingStarfox]

I will say, the line about having worked there in the trailer could be Cassie as Helpy treated her like an employee, so she’s in the system

[@GregoryFielding-id7gj]

Every present in Security breach has different colors to represent different characters, the green present w/a purple bow tie is themed after monty.

[@carmanstriker1853]

Ruin's got me back into the FNAF lore stuff on a level Security Breach couldn't imagine. I'm impressed Steel Wool improved so much.

[@donerlil3903]

sameee I love this dlc so much

[@namantherockstar]

Matpat inspires me.. My parents said if i get 40K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@jarisoncoiles6136]

is it just me, or is it oddly nostalgic to hear phone guy's voice lines as evidence again?

[@looneylunatic.2133]

Reminded me of sister location cuz of all the computer panels and stuff

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

when was that? i dont remember hearing phone guy this episode

[@jeffo7799]

@@ASlickNamedPimpbackit was the phone guy from 3 not 1 and 2

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

@@jeffo7799found it, 18:00

[@Monkey_Man2502]

Hey I’m super excited to see you host this but just so you know mat I was rewatching security breach play throughs and I saw at one point markiplier glitched the game on accident by moving Freddy close to a door that he didn’t have security clearance to and Freddy opened the door and he saw another Freddy inside and I think this is the Freddy we see in ruin and that’s why there is a different colored present and it says prototype on his foot but IDK why his head would be missing or why he is damaged

[@YourFavoriteAngel42]

I love how Matpat always goes above and beyond with the merch, and doesn't just make all of it channel-focused. I can't buy it myself, but I'm always impressed by the wide range of products and designs.

[@itzparish1]

The usage of the Vanny masks reminds me of a certain Freddy mask back in Fnaf 2. The way the animatronics are unable to recognize you with it on is way too similar, only without the augmented reality part.

[@Chillarmyssb]

Ong ur right

[@ellytrabread]

The bit about Henry in FNaF World and who made Circus Baby really brought this whole thing together for me and blew my mind into a million pieces. I love how you and John solved two big pieces of the current FNaF lore

[@ishkanark6725]

What's in the box

[@ramanyokesh9221]

Which box

[@thesolistplays7740]

We’ll never know I guesss @@ishkanark6725

[@mightystellwan1974]

20:41 MATPAT WAIT!!! so from the *SECRET ENDUNG SECURITY BREACH* when burn trap walk away but blob take him away _FORE SHADOW ALREADY???_ Is it the same thing with mimic amd scooper!?!?!?! *BURN TRAP - MIMIC* *BLOB - SCOOPER*

[@Yipper64]

8:22 well if Gregory is a robot then he might have a predictive AI. Which means that the other endings *could have happened* but didnt.

[@anonymousonyx7755]

I want someone who's as committed to me as Matpat is to making fnaf content

[@1avender1iz]

real.

[@Keiette]

Don’t we all

[@thehashira6383]

honestly

[@LeonardGreenpaw]

Someone that hates you but is stuck repeatedly doing you to pay their bills?

[@somethingforsenro]

@@LeonardGreenpaw i mean, this theory isn't even something the game theory team came up with. the first half (with the mimic's circus costumes and alternative branding) was discovered and fleshed out by ryetoast, and the second half (with the scooper and the silver eyes series/fnaf sl/help wanted 2 connection) was completely done by fuhnaff.