GameCube, Wii, & Wii U Can Play Together

[@GVG]

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[@Rhettroizms]

Food

[@Gnarfledarf]

Don't put sponsored content in the middle of the video.

[@BeatlesRul]

How else would you watch the ad? That's what content creators do.

[@joseph7almy]

Do you have a link to buy the Gamecube BBA or did i miss it in video 😂

[@rudinnwashere]

7:02 "He hates the Wii U" 😭 bro's literally eating the gamepad charger at the end of the shot

[@Joe15-ob4te]

He's literally a baby what do you expect

[@enid9911]

This is why I aborted.

[@putridscene]

Jon's videos at this point appear to be him thinking "I wonder if this works....holy crap, it works. I have to tell everyone." I appreciate that.

[@bleuthoot]

I find it more impressive that Dolphin Emulator can join in. It truly is the greatest emulator of all time.

[@KyleDavis328]

Ryujinx can play with Switch on games that support LAN, or with modded consoles on games that support Local Wireless (MK8D has a hidden LAN mode you can access) Xemu can play with real Xbox consoles (and new consoles that support the games through BC), was able to play Halo 2 between my PC and my 360 and Battlefront 2 between my PC and my One X. With enough Star Wars Battlefront 2 discs you could link together an Xbox, a PC running Xemu, an Xbox 360, and Xbox One, and an Xbox Series X all together for a multigenerational LAN party. There may be other games too but that's one that I know for sure is on both the 360 BC list and the Xbox One/Series BC list _and_ has LAN play. Emulation in this day and age is amazing.

[@MumboMod]

I was fortunate enough to get four Switches, four TVs and eight friends together to play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe together. It was a blast! So yeah, I have heard that music Jon!

[@KyleDavis328]

I did that last December, but we didn't have enough TVs, so some of us were looking at the Switches' tiny screens. Did you know, there's also a LAN mode. For whatever reason there's separate local wireless and LAN modes, and with the LAN mode, you can play with unmodded Switches and Ryujinx together. (You can do local wireless with Ryujinx if you have CFW Switches)

[@the_only_lamp]

Same here, had 8 people over and we played some Beerio Kart and Blindfolded Mario Kart with two TVs. Tons of fun.

[@sefayildirim3775]

​@@KyleDavis328 LAN mode supports 12 players on 6 switches

[@Buster256]

Someone's actually working on a proper online mod for Double Dash as well (and it works on actual Gamecubes too). It takes a bit to set up, and it doesn't support 16 players like the vanilla game does, but the LAN mode's restrictions are basically gone and it works surprisingly well once you get it going.

[@LennyQUMFIF]

So is it like Online on MKDS/Wii, where people vote for tracks and 8 Players max?

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

I'm starting to think Jon doesn't play new games, he just spends all his time figuring out how to play old games on newer hardware

[@Jomanuelrg]

This is one if not the only channel I see delivering an outstanding ammount of videos with high quality content from every member of the channel, keep up the good work, you are doing amazing.

[@jeevannair393]

All the xboxes can do this too! Ive seen a video where mvg plays crimson skies or something with every xbox ever hooked up with eachother. Kinda wild that an og xbox, a 360, a one, and a series s can all play games with eachother

[@MattDustyParker]

Big w and I've never even had an xbox

[@BladeBlur]

So just a small thing I noticed, I had to put the network profile for Nintendon't and USB Loader GX on "2" instead of "Auto" for it to work properly for my setup. No idea why but just if anyone else is running into issues like I did.

[@ricardoneponoceno]

Is this with a wired or wireless connection? I'm trying to figure out if this works over wifi or if the Wii (in my case I have the Wii) needs to be connected via cable.

[@soyeahsauce]

me looking at the title: "this is definitely a jon video" Half second after the intro sequence: "Hi everyone, Jon here!"

[@soyeahsauce]

also jon's mii actually sounds like jon

[@raemdespairbringer]

7:50 "Man was not meant to have this power"

[@JoeEmber776]

Jon's old console hacks using obscure peripherals gives me life

[@Bloops]

Let's get a 200 mile LAN adapter going and have a jaunty brawl 💥

[@KyleDavis328]

With XLink Kai you can do that over the internet. If you noticed, one of the LAN Adapter emulation options on Dolphin was one for XLink Kai, which can connect LAN enabled games from multiple consoles and generations over the internet. Works with Gamecube, Xbox, PS2 and their newer counterparts. Just run some software on your PC and you can connect your real GC, Wii or Wii U to the servers for GC LAN games along with Dolphin players as well. The servers aren't usually populated with any GC players, but it's available if you ever get friends together online. (Original Xbox Halo 2 is usually the most populated game on there)

[@bkillinm]

Me and my cousin play phantasy star online together via our modded Wii consoles and it’s amazing haha I had a broadband adapter as a child and loved PSO so it’s been so fun to go back

[@Rambling-Thomas]

PSO 1&2 is one of my fave Gamecube games. Me and 3 friends had spent one summer in our teens grinding levels to complete the story of ep1. It took ages. Then, when I finally got online years later, the private servers have much better grinding missions and took me a fraction of the time to complete. Still loved the initial grind with my friends though. Precious gaming memories.

[@raemdespairbringer]

and Episode 2 is the hardest to complete in Ultimate level

[@MrHawaiiTobi]

You need to get 16 people together on 8 Wiis and play double dash! This was my dream as a child, and if someone can realise this, it's you guys! I want to see the madness of this endeavour!

[@poptheweasel100]

I should mention that while PSO's lobbies are cross-console, actual games are restricted to specific versions. V1 and V2, both Dreamcast versions with V2 having a PC version, are crossplay, while V3, the GC and Xbox versions, are crossplay with each other on private servers. Blue Burst, the last PC version, can only play with that version. Of course emulators with online support work fine with crossplay too, so technically anything is crossplay if it can run a DC or GC emulator that has online support lol

[@Dairunt1]

If the Switch 2 has a GameCube emulator, I really want them to emulate the LAN broadband adapter. Imagine playing Double Dash wirelessly across 8 different Switches.

[@randallbro6749]

Only Iwata would let that happen

[@Crafty_boy70]

The other retros support online play, I don't see why Gamecube games wouldn't.

[@SuperNickid]

Dairunt1: There is a high possiblity that the Game cube emulator will be for Nintendo switch 2, the official one not the hacking version, to know what they will decided have to wait, to see what Nintendo dirrect will say this June.

[@railerswim]

Keep dreaming.

[@Dairunt1]

@@railerswim I said I would want that, not that they will. I use Dolphin for a reason.

[@skateboardmemories]

So funny when you see the title of the video and think "that is such a Jon-video" and yeah, here you are 😂😂😂

[@baileyedwards615]

Hey John! Everyone here, just wanted to say you're awesome

[@nazor1]

I love the GVG crew since GX days. I hope that this new Nintendo season will provide a lot of opportunity for exciting and attractive videos for the channel.

[@ultimategamer4969]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO EVER SINCE YOUR TWEET

[@ultimategamer4969]

Oh yeah, he cooked

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

The only thing I'm a bit iffy on, is that the chip is exposed at the back, and that can lead to major damage when exposed with dust particles.

[@Wingcapman]

It's great to see alternative solutions for the GameCube broadband adapter, it's criminal to see those becoming more and more expensive. One thing I do hope to see is that the replacement for the GameCube broadband adapter won't use SerialPort 2 in the future as it currently doesn't work for the DOL-101 variants (so basically, the newer GameCube model revisions, that also have their component port removed). On topic of this video however, lovely to see the systems connecting to each other. Even for people with a full "16-player" setup, this looks like a really fun experiment, for sure! 👍🏻

[@sefayildirim3775]

There is a ETH2GC adapter that let's you plug in ethernet cable into memory card port b. It's cheaper too, on aliexpress it's around 20 pounds after shipping and tax and you can use your SD2SP2 in serial port 2 still.

[@Langas_Konoe]

You're killing it Jon, great content.

[@marcellachine5718]

They are actually the same basic system after all. Just minor incremental changes.

[@woomyngyes8528]

I see puyo fever in the bg, underrated series

[@nullset2]

Because the Wii U is just four gamecubes duct taped together

[@GFDgamer]

8:57 haha that’s me logical, I knew there was something special about Johnwii and Wiiu. Schserv is definitely a special kind of server everyone should experience and it’s populated usually in the evenings.

[@Matichuu]

Yep, I was about to say the same. Schtserv gets actually 20+ people everyday, and even 35+ on the weekends.

[@spicypepperz]

Okay thank you I was wondering if he was emulating blue Burst on gc or if it was the schtserv, cause when he said it's crossplay with pc and I raised an eyebrow haha

[@Matichuu]

@@spicypepperz By crossplay he’s referring to the fact that Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox and PC (Blue Burst) can all interact in the lobby. The other crossplay is Dolphin (Gamecube emulator) and consoles. You can use Dolphin to get online and play with Gamecube, Wii and Wii U.

[@CiromBreeze]

I switched to Ephinea myself after Schtserv lost everyone's save files, it's way more populated. Though, knowing that Scht is compatible with actual hardware...

[@GFDgamer]

@@CiromBreeze I’ve heard about that, that was an incident long time ago that was rectified immediately with hourly backed up servers. The whole you can lose your stuff online is like a thing of the past with optional patches for QoL changes

[@KenzenCrese]

Pso online is so much fun and yeah those broadband adapters are so much. So happy to see other options for others to get online with.

[@_SereneMango]

I'm so glad you also showed Dolphin in this video hahaha

[@gantoris3811]

This. This makes me happy. That is all.

[@SoulCasta]

Wow... thanks for the ɓrief memory reminder of PSO on NGC. Played it a lot (sadly, never online), fun times.

[@funkysloth2902]

Jon keeps on delivering the goods

[@CiromBreeze]

Maaan, the PSO lobby music is so nostalgic.

[@HassaelMartinez]

When I was little and loved reading instruction booklets, I always wanted the broadband adapter to play Mario Kart Double Dash, if I knew that you could do it with Nintendont I've hacked my Wii and WiiU years ago. Amazing.

[@ColdCobra84]

Seeing the GC PSO I+II always gives me extremely pleasant memories... of losing countless hours, by myself and with friends! (Split-screen, not by LAN ;))

[@windwakin]

So dolphin can run on a quest 2, so ya think it could also join in on the fun? The ultimate screenpeeking prevention lol, but fr I think it’d at least be a neat novelty.

[@Kritigri]

Next GVG Video: I connected this rock to online fanmade Nintendo services, and I'm now able to use it to play online with Super Famicom devices! (written with love, never stop x)

[@AkisHajittofi]

I think what makes this more exciting is the 'omg this works' moment you get and how unconventional to be playing an old game across multiple screens. Apart from that, you're not gonna do it unless you and the people you're playing with really like this game.

[@harrychalcraft6371]

Does anyone else think John gives serial killer vibes (instead of good vibes) in his introductions?

[@faidou9954]

You risking your entire channel by advocating for console modding, but mad respect to you.

[@Jahranimo_]

No he's not

[@workinprogress8978]

Not in North America yet at least, but with multiple companies, not the least of which being Nintendo, constantly pushing to create legal precedents and consumer acceptance of anti right-to-repair, anti-piracy, anti-game preservation, and anti-emulation policies, it's only a matter of time. It's already technically illegal to modify games and save files in Japan, so it's not impossible to imagine similar policies finding their way across the ocean

[@poble]

what are you talking about lol

[@SFStransit]

Nintendo: NO YOU CANT DO THAT, you have to pay us a monthly subscription for that!

[@sternosaur]

Omg, that's fucking AWESOME! I gotta get building my bar in my basement, I have 1 gamecube 1 wii and 2 wii u all modded, give everyone their own pop up screen and play mario kart DUI.

[@nintendians]

that's crazy and that's great way to connect them.

[@elSteeler]

This is incredible... I've been lucky enough to host 8-player MKDD twice, and this makes it SO much easier to do it again. Thank you for showcasing this, is there a written guide somewhere online?

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

With a LAN forwarding setup like switch-lan-play or good ol' Hamachi, you could probably take these Gamecube LAN games to the Internet!

[@Jedi_B0b]

Make sure to not get dolphin 5.0 or below, you need a beta version for the HLE broadband adapter

[@Jedi_B0b]

Get this, if you are pairing a pc to the wii and you are using wii remotes, It won't connect, but if you turn off the wii remotes when you are pairing, wait for it to connect, then plug them back in, it works! And I don't understand why my pc does that but eh, at least ther is a solution

[@THEREALVITO]

I recently got my hands on the Gamecube ASCII keyboard controller. I will get the broadband adapter eventually, and finally live the Phantasy.

[@certifiedfridge]

Lucky ass! Better do this and share with us!

[@megamix5403]

You'd think that Double Dash would at least offer you to select your characters for LAN play considering how damn expensive the adapters are, but nope. My disappointment is immeasurable lol Everything else is pretty cool though and I like how PSO connects to DC. It just goes to show how far the retro gaming community is willing to keep the scene alive.

[@certifiedfridge]

Not that big of a deal. Random character keeps gameplay quick and always unpredictable, after all, that IS why you play DD. Assign cheat codes to choose specific characters if you’re that upset

[@Spacething7474]

12:57 it's me! i'm that person!! the next mario kart (heck, all the mario karts) should be 30fps at MAXIMUM

[@Thinkofsomethingnew]

I see you have the flap missing from your wii 13:34, that makes two of us.

[@dyllburg]

Guys how are you guys cranking out so great vids so frequently. Wow. Stop. 😢

[@drasnaescastle]

Don't stop.

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@drasnaescastleCan't stop.

[@dyllburg]

@@ultraspinalki11 won’t stop.

[@JoshTheWoz]

​@user-pm7by7ew7jyou watched GVG before? there's like 5 guys burgers and fries!

[@courtneymertz4596]

As long as it is great quality, I’m cool with it!

[@Jedi_B0b]

I've always wanted to do this, but I didn't know if it would work, great video!

[@heavenlyderpfowl1180]

Don't know if you will see this but can you do a video about the ps2's pressure sensitive buttons?

[@pro-toman]

What I've taken from this video is that I cannot carry a Gamecube with my tongue. I need training...

[@AmiiboDoctor]

Im just here to check out those radical amiibo in the back

[@guguig9746]

It's funny, because I'm most likely never ever doing this, yet, I love learning about it.

[@ganonms]

I was playing PSO online on my Wii just before watching this video. Must be fate.

[@cutecharacterpower]

I read the title and litteraly yeld "What ?"

[@pedrohenriqueboscofi]

That's some knowledge I'm just now acquiring

[@The_Professor_Toad]

I could tell this was a Jon video before I clicked on it.

[@MagisterHamid]

What was that GC software on the Wii U? Also did you use the lan adapter for both Wii and Wii U?

[@supersmashmaster43]

Only for GC, Wii and Wii U are wireless

[@seereebee]

You can do a similar thing across all the Xbox consoles. Using a program like XLink Kai, you can do system link matches across any generation of Xbox.

[@Veela666]

Running at 60 is the bare minimum. Come on Nintendo.

[@mariotaz]

It's not a broadband adapter. It's a LAN adapter. DOL-012 is the modem/lan adapter. DOL-015 (what you stated and the ebay listings) are DOL-015 Broadband adapter. Mario Kart DD is LAN. LAN is also a lot cheaper.

[@JeskidoYT]

Finally! Now time to get the switch thrown into this group somehow 😂

[@IanRulzU]

Wow thats so cool! Im definitely gonna try and get that happening someday. Also how do you get nintendont on wii u to use the gamepad?

[@HeroOfTime4298]

Do you have another channel? I recognize your voice but this is only the second video I have watched from this channel.

[@ResidentNintendoNerd]

This also works with Dolphin if its on the same network! (and has the BBA emulated)

[@HappyLight.]

I love to see more of something like. :)

[@Pownchao]

I want to try out Phantasy Star, if only to pick up the exclusive Tails Chao you can get from it.

[@pixxellie]

I had no idea the WiiU could play gamecube games! Does it have 100% compatibility? If it does I wonder why Nintendo didn't just engineer the WiiU to also read GCN disks.

[@trixniisama]

It does have 100% compatibility because it's not emulation, it's actual backwards compatibility. The reason why they disabled it however is baffling to me. They may have intended to sell these games again on the Virtual Console and changed their minds.

[@certifiedfridge]

well then it wouldnt really be ‘virtual’ console. But yeah every wii has gamecube chipset, including the wii models without GCN controller ports. And because of that, The wii u does as well! You just have to hack it to unlock this ability

[@SuperrSonic]

It's not 100%, the way nintendont works is it finds shared code between games and patches it to Wii compatible code. This is enough to get most games working. But just to give you an idea of how messy this approach is, there are over 100 game-specific patches to fix problem games. That's not 100% to me. Nevermind the games the devs didn't care enough to fix, Rogue Squadron 2 famously has a bugged map. RE4 is known to crash, some fixes actually damage the game experience Sonic Riders has longer loading times than on a real GC, there's no handler for the GC's reboot function so if you trigger that in a game it will just freeze. The only true BC is the one Nintendo made for the original Wii models. This mode ran games without touching the original code. Wind Waker being a notable exception.

[@certifiedfridge]

@@SuperrSonic pretty sure 100% BC applies to RVL-101 as well, as long as you hack to read games from sd and allow for CC/ USB to GCN adapter use

[@RosalinaSama]

my guess is that itd mean they either had to put the controller and memory card ports on the console, or develop systems to manage the input/saving and both of those were seen as too niche to spend time on sadly

[@Smexbi]

2:15 that didn't age well I kinda don't see the Switch 2 running MK9 with 24 players in a 4 player splitscreen at 60fps. The Switch 2 will be more powerfull, but running the game 4 times with that many characters on screen sounds a bit much.

[@moodygaming9559]

I’ve had nintendont for years and never knew about the broadband connection wow!

[@ofi9sher]

Your's son is adorable ❤❤❤

[@ShinoAburame37]

Your voice is deeper than your shoulders are wide. How do I learn this magic, sorcerer?

[@certifiedfridge]

Eat your veggies and drink whole milk

[@kazinwho]

I'm a Phantasy Star Online superfan, so I've had a broadband adapter for decades :) Really wish they'd make a broadband replacement for the other slot, it sucks for me since I have my sd card plugged into the slot the new one goes in :/

[@paulhudalla9527]

I have 3 Wiis, a Wii U, and a PC, but hardly any GameCube games 😭 So I could in theory do this, but it seems unlikely and I don't have enough controllers or friends to even have a good experience.

[@Evixyn]

John Splatoon is my favorite right next to John Wii.

[@rickstlevania]

MK8 also has lan mode and you can crossplay real hardware and emulation (ryujinx, yuzu)

[@terryechoes3192]

I suck at video games, but I still want to join a Nintendo LAN party some day.

[@andrewmares6875]

Do you need to be on the same wifi to sync the systems together?

[@punkydudester3]

This is really awesome

[@Moniak]

MK8D can hit a stable 60fps with 4 players on a modded overclocked Switch, Switch 2 will be able to run it no problem

[@p00pdragon]

Pso is not cross play between all versions as mentioned. GameCube is isolated, Xbox is isolated, blue burst is isolated, and the only exception is dreamcast ver2 and the pre blue burst pc pso ver 2 being crossplay.

[@spicypepperz]

That's what I was wondering, what server was he playing on was he emulating blue burst on ephinia or was is it episode 1 and 2 private servers?

[@Knigthmare2]

Xbox and GC can play PSO together

[@kevinfromsales9445]

Blue Burst is the easiest to setup and the most populated. Xbox requires Xbox Live or Signia? And GC or Dreamcast is just for pure nostalgia.

[@p00pdragon]

@@Knigthmare2 Didn’t know that. Seems to be a recent thing. Also seems to have some limitations too but there is almost no one spelling this out well on the Internet.

[@Jeremysoto1302]

​@p00pdragon essentially the sylverant and schtserv servers have worked on a way to allow crossplay between GC and OG Xbox versions(apparently not much was different between the coding) allowing gc players and og xbox users on the xbl revival service insignia to play together. From what I hear this is entirely server side so there is nothing new players need to do to be able to play with other users.

[@svenbtb]

This is so cool, I would totally try this but i don't have multiple copies of Double Dash sitting around unfortunately lol, just the one. But maybe I'll try with Dolphin...

[@certifiedfridge]

The whole idea he was trying to pass was hacking your consoles… Dude DD is getting as expensive as the damn broadband adapter nowadays

[@karnovrpg]

Now that's crossplay! Take notes Sony!

[@NormalLunk]

In those homebrew menus can't you force the wii u to accept GameCube discs?

[@LandPirate62]

JON IS UNSTOPPABLE

[@fluffybunnybadass]

please make a video on playing pso in 2024!!! I've been wanting to play it online ever since i rented it back in junior high lol

[@quest4best]

Great video!

[@unlimitedslash]

Have you looked into the USB-C mod for the WiiU gamepad? honestly a godsend, i simply plug it in the steam deck or smartphone charger and done.

[@_Banjo_]

In words of the fat guy in pokemon Technology is incredible!

[@Nopal_ku]

Man seeing the Menu for mk8 deluxe pisses me off I just have 2 switches so only 4 player lan setups. I hope the next Mario kart allows for 4 player split screen lan setups

[@MarkoZutic]

does your wii and wii u work over the lan port or wifi can also be worked with?

[@butterccm]

This is cool but unfortunately I've been using the sd to sp2 adapter so I can't really use that. Hope they make a sp1 version.

[@stupidvideogameclips]

At this point I think Jon could probably find a way to connect to Fortnite on a toaster.

[@Some_Random_Guy]

I think a few of your Amiibo on the shelf behind you died