Wii & Wii U Can Play Mario Kart Arcade GP and Even More

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[@JoshTheWoz]

Hellofresh more like Hellojon

[@briansilva3765]

It's crazy just how long Nintendo used the Game Cube architecture, from 2001 up to 2017

[@Howwy191]

If you're referring to arcade gp deluxe that is not the triforce arcade board gp2 was the last game to use it.

[@espressomatic]

Not until 2017. But GC, Wii and Wii-U are all Radeon-powered, so they have a lot of similarities.

[@noa670]

The GameCube, Wii and Wii U, are all PowerPC based designs which is wild

[@kitterbug]

Nope, but also yes. No assuming you meant any triforce game after GP2, because there are none. The future Arcade GP games are on different hardware. Yes if you meant the Wii and Wii U being directly built off their predecessors, and natively compatible. Fun loosely related factoid, the GameCube's CPU "Gekko" is based on the "PowerPC 750CXe", which was used on some Mac computers. You can indeed run older PowerPC MacOS versions on the PowerPC Nintendo consoles!

[@UltraNurture]

I recently made a gameplay video of Mario Kart Arcade GP on the Wii U and it blew up. I got a lot of comments from people saying just how interesting it was that the Wii and Wii U could natively play these arcade games. Glad that you’re making a lot more people aware of it than I ever could!

[@equinox3861]

Please can you try Pokken Arcade?

[@AlphiePrime]

Haha, cool seeing you here! Yeah it's really cool you can do this, game preservation is important and now we can play these anytime we want!

[@UltraNurture]

@@AlphiePrime Sup man! It’s great to see you here as well! Fans going out of their way to preserve games will always be amazing to see!

[@repoversemedium]

Ah yes, my favorite game. *Mario Mart*

[@UltraNurture]

@@repoversemedium Mario will use a shopping cart to get around in Mario Mart lol

[@niksooxyz]

Um, I'm sorry, YOU CAN USE THE RIGHT ANALOG STICK TO ACCELERATE IN MK8?????

[@heroic_teddy]

Indeed! Worse yet, you can also reverse with it holding down on it, as well. When you have a controller with drift on the right stick, drifting downward, it makes it most difficult to accelerate. 😅

[@JustMLC]

It isn't analog tho, but yeah

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

I've been playing it since 2015 and never knew this lmao.

[@Absolute_LUNA-C]

probably for racing wheels, but i have no idea why they would do that…

[@djhero0071]

@Absolute_LUNA-C A lot of PS2 racing games have that feature. It gives you better throttle control if your X button (on PS2) is fucked.

[@thebestworst8002]

I love how I knew this was a John video from the title alone

[@SuperPaperPokemon]

Yeah, Jon videos are pretty obvious just from the titles and thumbnails.

[@JagGentlemann]

Easy to know when it isn't clickbaity or low effort

[@thebestworst8002]

@@SuperPaperPokemon I didn’t even see the thumbnail as I clicked on this video from a notification. John just always does more homebrew or technical things

[@HaydenC]

WALUIGI IS BANGING AWAY

[@ryuthebuizel6266]

13:56 so there actually IS a Halo arcade game that came out in like 2018. Its a light gun shooter and I've played it, its pretty fun.

[@Fr0stM00n]

Yes! My family and I played 4 player from Start to finish! It's not really a true Halo FPS as it's a rail game. It has a QR Code but I recall I couldn't make it work! We played it maybe 5 or more year ago I think? It was a this theater called EVO and it was also at this Halo Convention that was super fun!

[@SK91NO]

Fireteam Raven is pretty cool, have one at a local arcade

[@oscarzxn4067]

Really cool to see a Mario Kart with Pac-Man, Blinky and [REDACTED]

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

👀

[@Izzythemaker127]

I saw this comment before watching the video and it took me a bit to realize who [REDACTED] was

[@tom02369]

The main reason these games can't presently run on the GameCube is because Nintendont has patches for the Triforce games by Crediar and Fix94 to get them running within Nintendon't compatibility layer (Early attempts were focused on modifying the Wii's built in MIOS and BC IOS libraries used for backwards compatibility, but that was shelved due to hardware restrictions in BC mode via DIOS-MIOS and was decided to build a new one from scratch which resulted in Devolution and Nintendont) In order to get them working on GameCube they need to be ported to SwissGC which no one has done so far. From a hardware perspective the Triforce is identical to the Gamecube bar the 2 AM-Boards and the IPL (Initial Program Loader) Dolphin has had on-off emulation of the Triforce hardware, again by Crediar. The issue there is the Triforce is split into distinct variations: Namco and Sega and each of them have different AM-Boards. Namco boards used in Mario Kart Arcade GP 1/2 use a 512MB NAND (The same internal data size as the Wii) in cartridge form, where as Sega games use repurposed NAOMI GD-ROM drives with up to 1.1GB data capacity, the same media the Dreamcast also used. And with little documentation on both variants and their custom security routines. It's made supporting them difficult.

[@DudePat]

I think salmon run from splatoon reworked as an arcade release could be a ton of fun

[@GNSTCDRD]

There actually is a Halo arcade machine. A Luigi's Mansion one as well. Arcades are still very much a thing here in the States along beachfront resort cities like Wildwood, NJ, Ocean City, MD, Myrtle Beach, etc.

[@JD7489]

8:02 you forgot to show that if two characters bump into each other the announcer can say "WOW! Mario! Pac-Man! HOT and exciting!"

[@CI254]

The timing of this after just playing this for the first time in the arcades just last night while visiting the girlfriend. I cannot believe you all. This is great to see!

[@ssj99gohanisthebest48]

Can’t play GP3 sadly

[@repoversemedium]

That’s pretty lovely of you.

[@jadetealaaron2003]

6:03 "Bluh" ~ Bowser, 2005

[@banjoboi24]

Oh hey, this gem of an arcade racing game ! I got Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 running on my Wii, and it was so fun that i ended up completing it entirely !

[@theespicypotato]

Love how you summarized the basics of Nintendont functionality because many people mistakenly think it's emulation

[@WreckItRolfe]

Ms Pac Man being included is especially great, given her modern ownership conundrum

[@purpleghost2004]

i was more surprised by the fact that you can use the right analog stick in mario kart 8 than anything else in this video lmao

[@HiCallMeValor]

Cool to see 😃 The machine for F-Zero AX has you sit in a moving chair actually. And PSA: don't do two races in a row. You may get motion sick 😅

[@GUCFan]

That's if you can find a F-Zero AX cabinet seeing as those are extremely rare to come by. Never found one in the wild but the one's that are still around usually have issues with the memory card slot.

[@robbyrobot3303]

There's a wii based arcade machine licensed to Capcom too but nobody on KZbin has made a video on it. It's called the RVA-001. The only games that used it were Capcom vs Tatsunoko and two Mario Party electromechanical games. It even uses the wii's power chord. I really wonder if it can run homebrew

[@Mr._Maniac]

3:31 Mario (Wahoo!) Luigi (Haha!) Princess Peach (WAAAAAAARRR-)

[@svenbtb]

I've wanted a home version of these games for FOREVER

[@megamix5403]

I remember when I passed the fifth grade, my mum took me to Chuck E Cheese and that was the first time I played Arcade GP. The joy I felt when I got to play it again through Nintendon't. I even had a PS2 wheel and a PS2-Gamecube Adapter just to relive that arcade experience. I'm sure that there are better methods out there but if hey, I'm all for getting more mileage out the Wii. Get it, mileage?

[@steamdecknoface]

Have GP1 and 2 on my Steam Deck. Now I can play Mario Kart GP wherever I go, even the arcade! Wait…

[@elederanjo26]

Playing these games was the reason why I modded my Wii but I was never able to figure out how to run them lmaoooooo

[@therock238360]

It’s not a Triforce game, but I’m curious if they could run the arcade version of Tatsunoko Vs Capcom. It runs on a unique arcade board based off of the Wii’s architecture

[@TheCalComics]

9:22 Virtua Striker 4 truncating / typo-ing the message “Card not available temporarily” to “Card not available temporally” implies that the card reader detects a card, but it is currently lost in the time space continuum. Cool of Bandai Namco to account for that quantum displacement.

[@cooper9607]

I’ve never played any of the games mentioned but I have played the 3rd game in The Mario Kart GP series. Mario Kart Arcade GP DX is at 2-3 arcades near me, PAC-man is still there, the newly added Don-Chan from Taiko no Tatsujin and a couple other Mario characters like Metal Mario and Baby Mario & Luigi. There are 6 cups to with 2 tracks each. Also there are a ton of items!

[@RogersBase]

There was an arcade near Brookfield Zoo that I went to as a kid that actually HAD F-Zero AX and I made a point to stop by again years later with my GC Memory Card so I could finally have everything unlocked in GX.

[@Terumimi]

I wanna see someone manage to recreate the multiplayer mode, or use the wii u gamepad camera to recreate the camera effect, that'd be super sick i think

[@angelshide]

My local arcade has Mario Kart GP. I took my Mario mad son to play it last Summer and we had a blast!

[@xXdjgalaxyXx]

Back in the day there was a local place called laser dome and they had basically what you are describing for Halo 3 with 16 stations setup with controllers for multiplayer lan battles it was an arcade machine of sorts

[@Joeynator3000]

This is a Jon video, isn't it? ..... Yup, it's Jon. lol

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Who were you expecting? Steve "will love an unnecessary waste of effort that is The Last of Us's unnecessary remake" Bowling?

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

13:58 Arcade MMO titles! AMMO for short! Online games that you don't play at a net cafe or a bar, but at a local arcade! This actually can vindicate the existence of cloud games because it's actually an economical way to do new arcade things!

[@rydamusprime]

I have had these running on my Wii for years now, and it is indeed awesome being able to play them. I have a multi-console mini racing wheel that works quite well with them for a more arcade-y feel. It doesn't work well with games that require precise turning like Gran Turismo (and it has no peddles, just triggers behind the wheel) but it works great for arcade racers.

[@64-Bit-Gamer]

Thanks so much for this video. I did not know and I'm now playing both MKGP games on my Wii. Cheers dude!

[@kitterbug]

3:02 There is indeed nothing else to do, buuut you know you can put a GameCube BIOS on Nintendon't to see the start-up and menu? You can also do the same for a Triforce bios, if you want to. Really puts the finishing touches on the "I'm totally an arcade operator" vibe! Not needed, but very awesome.

[@JoshTheWoz]

Hellofresh more like Hellojon

[@andrewwilson4733]

i love these indepth videos by Jon, my favourite part of channel!!!

[@ICharlyl]

We all banging to this one

[@juiceala]

Regarding arcade machines, I don't know how scarce they are in Britain or western countries in general but we still got arcades here in Asia, newer games come occasionally too, a couple of months ago I discovered a new-ish House of the Dead game called House of the Dead Scarlet Dawn, I've never heard of it before, we have Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, Luigi's Mansion Arcade, Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games Arcade as well as Rio 2016, these are exclusive arcade games built from the ground up, they are not ports of home console games.

[@GamerFunOriginallyAarush]

That’s wonderful!

[@hideokojimajr]

Halo does have an arcade game! I think it had zero point achievements too.

[@halami2149]

6:39 I don’t think it was analog speed on Mario Kart 8, I think it just recognizes when you pass a certain threshold on the stick, it’ll accelerate as much as possible

[@PowerPandaMods]

I've played AX in the arcade, and all of these on Nintendon't. So cool that I can use my Wii for this.

[@paulanderson929]

Dude you are knocking it out with these videos. Thanks for all the tips.

[@Howwy191]

I managed to experience f zero in the arcades at jacksons of mablethorpe a few years back, sadly the machine isn't there anymore. The f zero reddit maintains a map of locations that have it and mablethorpe was the last location in the uk to have one, there are none left in operation here in this country 😢

[@CodyMKW]

If it ran and Wii U mode the camera would actually work most likely

[@Michirin9801]

Modern arcade games are very much still a thing, though they're mostly just stuck in Japan and East/Southeast Asia...

[@Jdeadevil]

F-Zero GX/AX are probably my favourite F-Zero games, so many hours put into them.

[@SaddieMoon]

1:29 Not just you have Wii U support and Wii support. But also some Gamecube like Arcade and Gamecube support.

[@omegadavids6362]

So Mario Kart Arcade GP DX would be in Nintendo Switch

[@DIAC1987]

A Smash Bros. arcade game would be a guaranteed smash hit. Also it’s surprising we didnt see more Mario sports games receive the arcade treatment

[@OofEight]

One series I thought would be pretty cool to see make a return in arcades was Ace Combat. Just having a game like Ace Combat 7 there at a local arcade parlour, while indeed not the kind of thing I'd be going out and sinking coins into on the regular, would still be pretty rad.

[@charthers8903]

The gorgeous thing about arcade is how huge the sprites were.. In console games the sprites just get smaller and smaller to ridiculously tiny size

[@Pownchao]

Been thinking about doing this, and as usual Jon is the one that makes me finally get to it lol. But yeah, it's cool how there's this new library of games available to me.

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

Would be cool if Mario Kart Arcade GP DX was also playable on Wii U, or even the Switch!

[@DarkLink1996.]

Dolphin can't even do this, so it's incredible to me how Nintendon't just works. I know the technical reasons why, but it's still just cool.

[@DTX720]

that halo arcade game dose infact exist john. the more you know!

[@Poever]

I guess the reason these were never ported to home console has to do with the thorny publishing relationship between Ninty and Bamco in relation to who are in this game

[@svenbtb]

That doesn't make sense though, because Nintendo and Namco are really close, they would have been able to work something out. I think they just wanted to have one that was exclusively in arcades, is all

[@arfanik9827]

@@svenbtb Even if two companies seem to have close ties, oftentimes it isn,t worth the hassle to go through hoops with licenses and stuff to make a game which will probably not even be successful appear on consoles

[@brianjl7477]

I think it has more to do with Nintendo only releasing one Mario Kart game per console and positioning it to be an "evergreen" title. They don't want to compete with themselves. As noted, AX is completely included on the GX disc (though not accessible in true arcade form), so they likely considered that good enough there. I do think the MArio Karts would be great NSO releases for Switch, but you know nintendo isn't going to go to any trouble over them. 😆

[@robbyrobot3303]

It would be very confusing for a lot of Nintendo's customers, which are parents buying for children

[@TylerMcNamer]

Arcade GP was released in 2005? I didn't know it was that long ago.

[@kitterbug]

The only real difference between a Triforce and a stock GameCube is extra (twice as much, 48mb of) ram. Pretty sure that's it, I know for sure the motherboard PCB is identical, which isn't very common for arcade systems based on home ones afaik, usually the PCB is redesigned. Edit: The GameCube "T-Dev" development units also have double the ram, I don't know if anyone has tried running triforce games on one, but now I'm curious.

[@plusah1268]

I was convinced this was a well known fact like 13 years ago back when I hacked my wii

[@spongebobfan78]

IIRC, SEGA still makes (or at least publishes) arcade games to this day.

[@Quelkaima]

I didn't know that Nintendon't could play Triforce games, so this is all new to me. I'll definitely go try it out soon!

[@yep6925]

Namco really did miss the opportunity to put tekken characters in mario kart

[@That_Lady_Charlie]

Heihachi is BANGING AWAY

[@MUSQUIZanimation]

4:00 Mario Kart 9 needs some weather tracks. I really want a rainy level.

[@Taydar]

From the title you knew

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I saw footage of the Wii U camera working on Mario Kart Arcade, maybe it was DX.

[@jonathanstead3867]

there is a halo arcade game fireteam raven ive seen a few around from time to time

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

This is aesome news. I've always wanted to play F Zero AX from the arcades but the Mario kart game looks like a blast. So many items to unlock, what a cool idea.

[@BasVoet]

You know it’s a Jon video just by seeing the title!

[@floortjetjeertes3898]

modern fighting games still get arcade releases but those are the outliers . (they basically just install game consoles in arcade housing and insert a toned down version of the game like poken or just use a PC if the game has a PC port like street fighter 6)

[@GiSWiG]

Imagine if Nintendo added Arcade to the NSO subscription! They could have this and other Nintendo arcade systems like the PlayChoice. BTW, there is an 'archive' out there with Wii U installable versions of these games. You can access them right off the Wii U menu. I'll have to give these a shot on a Wii with HDMI mod.

[@Absolute_LUNA-C]

another reason i think that more games should get arcade versions (and there should be more arcade games in general) is that they can provide an experience completely unparalleled to a regular console or even a pc. one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite games is a rhythm game called beatmania iidx. it’s a series of dj-themed arcade rhythm games that use 7 buttons and a turntable (or 14 buttons and two turntables, if you decide to play like that.) the actual beatmania iidx arcade machine fully leans into that theme of djing, having a platform that shakes to the bass, tons of lights all synced up to the game, a 4.2 speaker sound system, and even analog eq sliders (physical on older cabs, on a separate touchscreen on newer cabs). playing iidx at home, even emulating it with a home controller, will never be the same experience as playing on an actual cabinet. the wave of lights and sounds putting you into a trance of music that you, yourself, are playing back, is unmatched by any other rhythm game ive played. …and yet, in the us, you can only find it at round1 arcades due to a special deal konami has with them. and there are way less of those than other arcade chains, my nearest iidx cab is hours away, if i want to play iidx on an official cabinet i have to set aside my entire day to make the drive there. and good luck finding one if you’re in europe - there are only 14 in the continent, and NONE OF THEM are on konami’s official online servers. the only alternative they’ve provided for this is a home version that requires a $15 a month subscription and even STILL has $50 dlc packs. things like this are why i want the arcade to make a comeback.

[@mattb3043]

There is a Halo arcade game, called Fireteam Raven

[@espressomatic]

Dolphin can also play them and up-scale them. Just too bad that GP DX (the last of the series?) doesn't run on TriForce and is PC-based.

[@christiangomez2496]

Sounds like the early 246 and the Python 1 and Python 2.

[@TheRscamaro90]

Imagine if these were just, you know, ported to Switch… just mash the games together and release it as Mario Kart Arcade GP Complete. Hey Nintendo and Namco Bandai get on this

[@dimitripatronas2409]

TIL you can accelerate in MK8 with the right stick 🤯

[@MarcBurrage]

Can you do local multiplayer for Mario GP 1 & 2?

[@VideoJamesNZ]

I don't know why the hell Nintendo haven't officially released this yet on Switch or any of their previous consoles. This game is fantastic at the arcade but I'm gonna have to get this for the Wii or Wii U.

[@GTVNewsForGamers]

Counter hot take: More modern arcade games should be ported to consoles. That way they're better preserved.

[@dometalican1990]

I wonder if unlocking the characters in AX transfers to GX if they're both installed on your modded Wii/Wii U.

[@Shibanu_]

Can you also play Mario Kart Arcade GP DX? (The one with Donchan)

[@Rolfke]

Is it possible to use the MarioKart USB steering wheel on the WiiU to play Mario kart GP?

[@dekuskrub2154]

mametchi my goat

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Seeing the Namco Characters in Mario Kart Arcade GP 1&2 makes me wonder why did didn't put Pac-Man in MK8DX instead of stupid Peachette...

[@budgetcoinhunter]

With Link, Villager, Inkling, Isabelle, and probably others I've forgotten, when does it stop being _Mario_ Kart and become _Nintendo_ Kart?

[@Chrisezo]

Very interesting video, but I have a couple of questions... If you use a Wii U what sort of controllers can you use with these games? Because even though the Gamecube Wii U USB adapter exists, I haven't seen a lot of things taking advantage of that, and then there's a lot of accessory controllers for the Wii remotes, but not sure if you can use the Wii remotes for these games. Also how does the multiplayer work for these games? Because if memory serves me well, each player would need to have their own machine when they existed in the arcades, so does that mean that playing these games on consoles will limit you to the single player experience only, or is there some kind of way to get these games connected to another console for multiplayer? I have more questions but these are the ones that I'm most intrigued about...

[@Daftrio]

can it also play mario kart arcade gp 2 and dx?

[@Medachod]

Wow, I got here within seconds. I feel honored to be the first to see Jon.

[@bakuiel1901]

Would love to see more games get the arcade treatment but I just think the cost is too prohibitive

[@bananabike279]

F.L.U.D.D. is out for B.L.U.D.D. lol

[@isakjohansson7134]

Could you make a video tutorial of how to download Mario kart arcade gp2 on Wii U because all the videos ive seen are outdated. Thanks

[@Schwarzorn]

I'm definitely getting Nintendon't. I need authenic AX, and Mario Kart!

[@manuelisimo6577]

I tried it a while ago but I had the buttons configured wrong and it chose the character by itself and it won't let me change it now, I don't know where the game is saved either, help :(

[@gpbear4]

theres no way to use the LAN feature for these games in Nintendont or Dolphin, is there?

[@ceazur4985]

Hey for some reason I can’t accelerate when I’m in a race? It sometimes accelerates for a very short second but then suddenly stops. How do I fix this?

[@OniLink147]

So about AX, can you use your memory card for the sava data link features? Because the AX hack for GX doesn't recognize memory cards.

[@arwinlacre1672]

Will it also work on the gamecube console using GC loader mod with Swiss..??🤔

[@megamix5403]

No idea but it might be worth trying