History Was Just Made In Legend of Dragoon Speedrunning

[@DoctorSwellman]

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[@drunkweeb349]

This game was an insanely large part of my childhood. Me and my dad would make jokes about each other saying the other would need a wargod calling to do basic things irl. "You need a wargod calling to open a door" just silly things. If i would have known id be losing my dad this year, I would have definitely tried to play thru this game with him one more time. I miss him so much.

[@DoctorSwellman]

Thank you for sharing. I love hearing stories about how LoD impacted peoples' childhoods, especially since it was a huge part of my own. Anyways, sorry for your loss and I hope your next playthrough goes okay

[@Jake3081-e8d]

I’m srry man I’m playing through it with my son right now

[@smz257]

aww man why would you bring all those onion-cutting ninjas with your comment dude? (beautiful tho) R.I.P. to your father dude

[@BlueserStream]

man i love it when something leads to runners beating the game in just under 2 and a half hours over the course of a year

[@TheMaddenGuy1]

Game was atrocious. Lmfao nobody cares

[@Quixotic-IX]

Yet you're here...

[@meaningfulmindfulness15]

​Game was amazing, I care and I'm glad the game still gets seen. 👾🤟 I definitely prefer not speedrunning though..it was much better to enjoy at my own pace.

[@Thegooderstuffs]

@@TheMaddenGuy1speak for yourself loser who pays for essentially the same game every year.

[@SuperAmazingJared]

​@@TheMaddenGuy1 assuming you're a troll, but it's funny hearing a fan of a game series that's literally the same copypasted garbage every year try to trash a cult classic game

[@HeavenOnHigh]

7:23 Fun fact. That item is bugged in german. Once using that item, it asks you to pick a character to use it on, and once used, it crashes your game. Iirc, the game thinks it's either an hp or mp recovery item. sonce, it has a similar name, then either of those healing items, but I can't remember what it was. So if any germans eanna run that game, don't do it in deutsch.

[@Feisar777]

Think the timecode is wrong, which items did you mean? the mind bomb? if so this totally crashed my game everytime and i couldn't make it past this fight :(

[@GerpidyGerpson]

My friend who is now passed away got the world record in the glitched percentage of suikoden 2 by manipulating the save data within a 3.25-3.50 second window of saving your completed save over your new save game data and then shutting the console off allows you to copy almost everything from your completed save to your new game save allowing you to have new game plus and nobody knew much about this. My friend killed himself after all of this and because of stuff he went through in his life. This reminded me a lot of that because he got the world record for that game and then passed away tragically by taking his own life last year. Apparently it had something to do with someone he loved and now he's gone. No one knows about this and his channel was deleted so not much has been talked about when it comes to this and I felt like after watching this that I needed to say something about it. His name was Joe and he was one of the most wonderful people I've ever known in my entire life. I miss him every fucking day because he was one of my best friends. He will be forever missed

[@GBsaysHi]

Great video, I'm happy someone was able to make a video showcasing all the effort and love that the Legend of Dragoon community put into this wonderful speedrun. Watching this game be brought down to sub 10 hours was a hell of a journey that I loved witnessing and participating in.

[@reicherwallace6774]

Turbo for mashing is definitely appreciated. Glad they allowed it for this game.

[@poohbear01x48]

Gust of Wind of Dance! Oh Albert…

[@Magnosummit]

I much preferred Lavitz, but Albert grew into his own role / party member in time, and I'm sure the combat experience was useful for him as a prince or person of nobility who would return to lead his country.

[@Nomadmandude]

"Gust of wind Dedance" fixed it for you. Lol

[@Magnosummit]

@@Nomadmandude lol. I didn't even realize OP said "Gust of Wind of Dance." Albert does really over enunciate the "d" at the end of wind.

[@frankderr8323]

Man I loved this game growing up. Any combat system that engages the player in small ways (Super Mario RPG, Sea of Stars, LoD) makes the game infinitely more playable to me.

[@wazzledog1007]

The older my hands get, the happier I am to hear that people were argueing to allow turbo to be kind to runner's hands.

[@Nomadmandude]

I had the perfect method, you take your controller with both hands and put the button you intend to rapidly press on the tip of your nose lightly and then flex your arms extremely tightly to rapidly shake the controller pressing the button on your nose as fast as possible, I usually can reach the 268% on spell items.

[@RazorBladezX]

My cousin would use a penny and would move it like you’re scratching a lottery ticket to click fast

[@mhallicegaming]

I just learned the tetris tapping method to get pretty insane. I do agree though, turbo should be allowed, maybe have the turbo setting on screen like the controller layout needed for some speedruns and cap the turbo to a specific threshold

[@yeolemillinial8295]

i remember the first time i beat this game, i was wayyyyy underleveled. i did not know the mechanics to this extent and i was so weak going into the last boss that that fight took two hours, and it was essentially a 1v1 verus dart and melbu. gotta be one of the more memorable boss fights for me for that reason alone.

[@dylondorsch7994]

my first fight with the Divine dragon was similar. 1v1 dart guarding most turns and poking when safe. took over an hour and it was supper time, mom wasn't pleased.

[@KarmaJolt]

The menu theme and Boss Battle 3 music are funky as heck.

[@YakubsMonster]

My brother and I were speed running this and other jrpgs in the early 00's. We didn't have Internet and it was just a competition between us. My best time was ~18 hours.

[@NightmareOni]

Props for including Deathtome. Severely underrated runner and all around good guy!

[@Deathtome.]

Thanks for your kind words!

[@NightmareOni]

@@Deathtome. Always buddy. Been watching you for well over 10 years (The other Chaos Legion fanatic, Arrogance only run when!?!).

[@dche64]

He's done some awesome stuff in LoD.

[@Deathtome.]

I'll try it out this year and publish it on the other channel (Sieg Flockhart) just for you whenever I've done it. :) @@NightmareOni

[@NightmareOni]

@@Deathtome. Ohh don't go and butter me up with promises now haha. If it does happen, looking forward to it!

[@fidelc4shfl0w75]

This video is so cool. I love this game. One of my favorites of all time. When I was a kid I remember seeing people posting on forums and making guides about challenge runs. I remember one in particular was beating the game in 24 hours with no dragoons and thinking that it was physically impossible haha. All of my JRPG playthroughs back then were like 80-100+

[@LanEXHikari]

Considering how lengthy this game is, it's amazing its community pushed the record below ten hours and keep optimizing it. What a feat, thanks Doc ✌🏼

[@enoyna1001]

FFX runners feel this comment

[@undyingsoul3949]

​@@enoyna1001Yeah, it's brutal. Past the 1st kissing scene, I already have far over 200 hours in (blind). With 0 Game Overs thus far, so I definitely can't stop now. I hope it gets much harder.

[@enoyna1001]

@@undyingsoul3949 My suggestion: Save before and first defeat the last boss, then start working on the side content afterwards. You'll get the full experience with the story and won't be OP for the final boss the first time around.

[@Robrt476]

I immediately clicked when I saw the notification as legend of dragoon is one of my all time favorites, then you said you did another video on it before and I have to go watch it now 😒 it wouldn't feel right. I'll be back

[@Robrt476]

Ok I'm back, we can continue now.

[@jamesaditya5254]

The acceptance of turbo controller as the norm sounds godsent in a 10 hour RPG speedrun full of mashable textboxes where the means of damaging your enemies is either button mashing or additions which is basically a rhythm game

[@Kyoslilmonster]

Another absolute banger from the Doctor! Glad to see a game I've spent quite a few runs on making it into the series!

[@Caspicum]

mein gott look at that handsome dude mash that button. 250% is impressive, I had to actively practice for like an hour to get above 220.

[@HeavenOnHigh]

People from 1990 know how to mach button like crazy. Just ask everyone who played ff8.

[@neoqwerty]

@@HeavenOnHigh Oh god I can hear the menu rapidly closing and opening while I'm spamming to pull up a limit break at full HP with Aura status in my BRAIN THANKS.

[@devingunnels3251]

Love your channel

[@DoctorSwellman]

Same, Casp has some great vids

[@michaelhowell2809]

I broke my PS2 not sticks for DBZ budikai lmao I also grew up playing ff8 and the legend of dragoon so I understand completely

[@earthboundretro]

Use to watch someone named Dejumbi speed run this game and absolutely loved his videos and channels. If you're out there Dejumbi I hope you're doing well!

[@Nirakolov]

Hearing SDA in the past tense makes me feel old and sad

[@levimogford3202]

"Shana is a useless archer" that's what i always thought before this, jesus

[@reggieziet]

Very nice, but split second with that title I was thinking of a remake XD

[@NyrinTriball]

4x the rate for going down-left!? Holy crap.

[@sacor10]

Another well made, beautifully edited video by the Doc! Keep it up, proud of you!

[@andya4528]

Hope you are still doing Swell man. I'm an older viewer from Twitch and really enjoyed watching your EarthBound speed runs back in the day. I look forward to every video of yours and this one was great to show my wife who is a big time TLOD fan. Be Swell. ✌

[@yeolemillinial8295]

ok i' share the tech, put a thumb on each half of the X button, shake the controller from left to right causing your two thumbs to mash the X button as quickly as possible. this ALWAYS gets me a 268% on multis. if i use one thumb i get like 255% consistently, but i need the second thumb to push it to the limit.

[@Vextipher]

Not me thinking a remake was getting announced lol cool to see more LoD

[@FudderBudder]

A new KZbin about LoD… AND it’s interesting / new? Holy crap I’m in.

[@yeolemillinial8295]

dude i was hitting 268% on multi items when it first came out. i always knew that i had a unique tapping style, it doesn't mean much today but it definitely gave me an edge back in the day when you had a mash a button as quickly as possible

[@Ramsey276one]

Timing is best skill check I personally hate "mash until your fingers fail you" in games When there's only a small time window it kinda balances out. The old Dragon Ball games? Now you probably understand me! XD

[@RadiusIgnus]

The friend no one wanted to play Mario Party with

[@yeolemillinial8295]

@@RadiusIgnus in my case i aquired the skill in the atlanta olympic game on the sega genesis. it was at that house everyone would hang at and play games, and of course they all wanted to learn it so a group of us was just able to pump out world record times on command lol

[@iexcedo6918]

I'm 100% confident. Does a turbo controller was especially designed for this game in my childhood lol I still have my original disk and the THICC holder they come in

[@Bobbias]

Always fun when i recognize a name from ouraide of speedrunning. Shout out to Raelcun for his starcraft casting.

[@nobodyimportant5140]

14:17 .hack music ❤

[@Raelcun]

👀 fun fact in that 13 hour run i switched off fast disc speed in the moon because i had too many crashes in the moon during practice and that loses so much time by itself that it may have actually cost the sub 13. It also means my run wasn't technically single segment it was rta which people cared about and some were upset by since i had to save and reset the console. I just wanted to get a proof of concept run on video more than a great time. I had a lot of fun routing the game the inventory was a fun puzzle. But not something i could dedicate the time to grinding. Massive respect to people who can.

[@OldDistantHermit]

I do not miss the era of people giving a shit about "Single Segment". I had to listen to too many whiners back when I administrated the FF8 leaderboards in 2014.

[@Emmj91]

I remember trying blindfolded additions. I landed each one, but when I hit all of Albert’s consecutively! Awesome gaming moment. Good times.

[@joshuarendleman7297]

Oof. I apparently could never speed run dragoon because I was always terrible at hashels attacks.

[@bertod6387]

Wishing for a sequel to such a good game

[@Rath_Burn]

I just bought this game at a swap meet. I got to play it sometime soon.

[@dr4gonblitz]

SWELL MAN

[@ggarzagarcia]

DB! Thank goodness it’s you and not your evil doppelgänger! Cheers

[@blackdeathdoom1]

Nice video bro. A minor note, I don't think deathtome even knew the talisman was there... He didn't skip it on purpose.

[@DoctorSwellman]

Huh I did not know that. I appreciate the correction there!

[@Deathtome.]

Haha, this is true. If I had known...@@DoctorSwellman

[@drextrey]

This is the game I have never finished, a few times got to disc 3 out of 4 disk, but almost always my memory cards got corrupted. I play it quite rarely like 30minutes per day. So it took a long time to progress.

[@sophanitsar7706]

Never played the game, barely heard of it but boy do I love your vids, 5/5 would watch again

[@CLSharpman5000]

Ah man it's a classic, coming from someone who's hard to impress with turn based RPGs. 🤙

[@JasmineV9]

Dragoons suck? In Legend of Dragoon? That's unfortunate

[@Jianichie]

Off topic, but hearing that .Hack music brought a smile to my face.

[@HeadPats4Peter]

7:52 a video about speedrunning Legend of Dragoon but one of Oneshot's soundtrack is put at this moment? 👍

[@TwinSteel]

0:50 just a butt in the lower right - just because

[@TwinSteel]

25:30 there it is again

[@GodsMercenary631]

I'm suprised any% glitchless allows a glitch lol.

[@chrismanuel9768]

I'm not. So many "glitchless" categories actually allow multiple major glitches it's become an actual joke in the speedrun community.

[@undyingsoul3949]

Okay, it's about time I learn what the fast disc speed and "Diagnosis" do. I'm mostly playing on my PS2. What's best for the German PAL version of Final Fantasy X, I wonder.

[@VoltXProductions]

I did not know it was a speedrun strat when I did a "Shana Only" playthrough!

[@kenpachi1114]

They should try the Japanese version. Everything has like 20%+ health. Bosses seem harder too.

[@thrillhouse4151]

Explosion! rrrrRaaaaaaaAaa!

[@ziegly]

19:25 I did not quite get this: so you remove the FF7 disc during the PS1 logo screen, then place a LoD disc, and this will result in fast disc speed for LoD, without the potential for a softlock?

[@Deathtome.]

1. Power on your slim Playstation 2 2. Press Triangle twice (select Fast on Disc speed) 3. Insert any PS1 game that works with Fast disc speed (99.9% of games work). 4. Open disc tray once you see Playstation logo 5. Insert The Legend of Dragoon disc and enjoy full speed on any Slim console. Info : If you own any PS2 slim with model number 77000 (or lower) the steps above are NOT necessary. Basically only the new consoles block Fast disc speed.

[@ziegly]

@@Deathtome. thanks! The reply couldn't get any more authentic now that I paid attention to your name 😆

[@flash51285]

Holy crap it's my most favorite ps1 games in my lifetime along with my final fantasy 7. I spent 211 hours on this game. I hope it gets a remaster like Square Enix did them (such as Star Ocean TSS R and Final Fantasy VII).

[@yeolemillinial8295]

ya switching out meru for miranda was a really good movie, i don't understand why being stuck on meru was such a thing anyways as she is too weak for her speed to mean much. shana/miranda on the otherhand really pump the numbers out with attack items

[@BenjaminSpencer-m1k]

That game was a big time burner for me, I actually enjoy very long games. They make me feel as if I got my money's worth.

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

21:39 I am now irrationally pissed off

[@Kelstrile]

Love the cute pixel art walking of rose !

[@charaznable8072]

Damn man don't be getting my hopes up I literally thought a sequel or remake from the thumbnail lol.

[@blgmonster1631]

Holy crap this game I haven’t thought about in almost 20 years 😯

[@blackchibisan8116]

I keep wanting to do an all bosses no dev room single segment run of LoD because I’ve played this game so fricken much and I want to ruin some people’s lives as they fight for my record… But I get the vibe that someone either has or that this is what this video is about.

[@IsoYear]

this might be the push i need to play this

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

It was a really fun game when I played it with my friend 20 years ago

[@manramen]

Let's raise a boot to our fallen comrade even after all these years. We won't name him to avoid spoilers but anyone who played any part of this game knows who i mean.

[@kevinmoore2474]

He was a true goat for my casual runs.

[@XxCityofLostAngelsxX]

Love the choice of ffx music 🤘🏻

[@MrIcenice44]

I watch speedrun updates more than the news

[@dche64]

Hey Lasagnaaammm, BDD, and Dillonwithablankie.

[@DillonWithaBlankie]

Sup

[@dche64]

@@DillonWithaBlankie lasagn26Wave

[@rakeday1726]

I played this game once and loved it until I got stuck in an area under leveled and unable to backtrack and grind and had to just stop playing lol

[@edralev7671]

Criminaly underated game

[@lowsiento9567]

Dont you ruin my childhood with your correct pronunciation of names !!! ❤😂

[@Yerocco]

My favorite game of all time. I hate how late this game came out in the PS1 lifecycle. It could have been a franchise similar to Final Fantasy. I’ve replayed it from time to time when I had my ps4. I spent many hours on this game. I hope it gets a remake or a new game similar to how FF7 remake was.

[@matteosberna735]

64 items if you finish the minigame on the pocketstation!

[@noble_wine]

I hear .Hack// ost. ❤

[@Visuwyg]

Is 10 hours truly a speedrun? That's a whole day of play! I can’t imagine having this kimd of stamina...

[@ForeverZero11]

Ayyy, Love the .Hack music. :)

[@robertalexander-bk5zj]

Such s great game. My poor brother read on the internet that you could beat Lloyd in the tournament if you grind to level 99... You can not.

[@Kraxt0n]

man how i miss this game, found in flea market, got for 7 bucks at 10? i think, 34 now. loaned to my uncle, (all 4 disks) i finally received it back months later. only 2 disks were there. (THE LAST TWO) needless to say. never finished the game. did give a go at emulation, but nothing could compare to what this game was in my childhood. Truly wished they would remaster this in true HD fashion. I absolutely hate turn based games aside from this, the OG FF7, and BG3.

[@Drunk_Karen]

Wait how da hell do theyvget above 180 percent. I swear i broke the button the one time i got 190

[@alexlarmon2858]

Don't press, slide your fingernail over the button back and forth

[@Uber_GoobTube]

Sick vid

[@gaminggoddess85]

But I don't waaaannaaaa play Legend of Dragoon again, I'm busy stumbling my way through Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song Remastered

[@Zixias]

lmao im doing a playthrough rn but im full grinding tryna perfect everything 😂 im still yellow bird grinding 36 hrs for having all my party pre curing shana having legend casques 😂

[@VinsCool]

Lavitz still died of Ligma, so sad!

[@swordlunge]

Is it just me or the background music's volume too low? It's nice having the names of the songs appear during the video, but I honestly couldn't recognize anything because their volume is too low (I'm using headphones, btw). Other than that, nice and informative video! 😆

[@DoctorSwellman]

I'm not sure what happened. It felt like the audio was overpowering me a lot in my editing software, so I turned it down a bit more this time around. Audio is hard haha

[@rphntw1n]

Wait, 10 hours? That’s wild. So, are bathroom breaks allowed? How does that work? So many questions haha. fr, great job on this video! 👏👏👏

[@MysticOwlz]

Of course, you plan your food and hydration beforehand and just run to the bathroom extremely fast

[@birdfacemd]

That's what cutscenes are for

[@TOFWHY]

Oh my god is the disc speed on PS2 the reason my game would always crash on disc 2 after the big boss fight??

[@ColderthenIceCold]

The real question is did you Master VALCANO. I know the game is dated but it still gets me immersed in the environment every playthrough. Plus can you know can heal you with her period 😂. Got to love Rose that old man combo is BS

[@GazerPlur420]

Lavitz 😢

[@JesseGilley]

Maynard has inspired me in so many ways, and turned me on so many artists. Hope you continue these interviews! Also, I hope you grow to see the genius that opens to us if (and when) we work with A.I.

[@check5024]

why add that sound for my boy Lavitz.....

[@angelolima4811]

So where is the official prequel so we can break video game history😊

[@NFT2]

Deathtome is a gomer, bro just don't log in.

[@nawnomadnan9874]

This is incredible!

[@dippn7047]

"Stay hydrated folks." ... as I am eating general tsos chicken, lo mein, egg rolls, and drinking a coke.

[@ericmcmanus5179]

How the hell does someone realize they need to save over a Megamall or metal gear file to get this to happen? I'll never understand how people figure this shit out. Why would anyone even think that would even be an option?

[@Deathtome.]

There are probably more possibilities out there. Blackdeathdoom bought a used memory card with those saves (copied to another memory card) and noticed it worked. The previous solution was get a brand new memory card never used, but that was not sustainable. Honestly, could have been other game saves on that memory card, doesn't have to specifically be those but those are indeed working (have not tried many other saves yet). Once you deleted those save files the memory card act as a new memory card; which was necessary for that specific category.

[@ericmcmanus5179]

@@Deathtome. but how does someone even know that deleting any save files would do this?

[@Deathtome.]

That part is not even mysterious. You need a brand new memory card (or one that never played Dragoon before go run the category. Removing the saves aren't a necessity just makes saving faster. You just needed to find a way to make the memory card not remember any Dragoon save ever being there. Overwriting enough times until it forgets. I think you just need 1 or 2 saves from another game and delete them for it to work. So this is not optimal at all, but the first and only reliable way found. Nonody tried improving it since to find easier method or different ways. If it works it works.@@ericmcmanus5179

[@Mamiya645]

We used to dump onto Google Video back in those days. Yes, indeed - once upon a time YT was its very own item and Google did not own them. YT was still the "be there or be really square and weird and awkward and unlikely to get any clicks on your video even if it's on dailymotion or vimeo or that other place or that one other place or stage6 or"

[@cr4n135]

Yeah that’s cool but how about that remake?

[@JGcd001]

Sooooo only using items to attack instead of using god modes? Might as well call this the Ten Ten speedrun 😅

[@atomicrooster7567]

Not to brag or anything but BDD is my roommate. We we're all pretty hype when he got the WR the first time.

[@kogasoldier9379]

Nice. Ever tell him to try speed running the dishes?

[@UmiYokai]

so wait, which console ended up being the fastest?

[@Deathtome.]

Without disc swapping 75000 and 77000 models, but all slim models are able to play the game fast if you swap the disc at Playstation logo. Which is something discovered about 2 years ago. Before you kinda had to have a specific slim model (75k/77k).

[@yeolemillinial8295]

i don't agree with doing a single run live then deleting your stream. like what do you do then, unverified WRs is what.

[@Deathtome.]

The video is still up on my channel, but not the stream video (which had proof of me mashing and playing without a turbo controller). In other words webcam video is deleted, but isn't a requirement for the run to be legit anyway. Just extra proof for those who doubt the authenticity.

[@yeolemillinial8295]

@@Deathtome. So the doubt was just the mashing without turns, weird. The techs are out there to do this stuff today it's not like it's some hidden secret.

[@joshuamiller6054]

Pew pew 🎉