True. Triangulation, creating mistrust and rivalry are narcissist’s favourite tools of manipulation.
@themichaelbarrow3 ай бұрын
Triangulation is such an evil strategy. Thanks for educating people on how these people operate.
@hopeausbyn17343 ай бұрын
It's funny when those two fight with each other after one finds out what the NARC said about them. It kills them because they said that they were special, before they knew🤳what was said about them. 🤣 Put all your energy into leaving, but busting that bubble is hysterically funny.
@hopeausbyn17343 ай бұрын
Truly for the Evil.
@elainemarra97902 ай бұрын
And then the flying monkeys
@suzannewalek28852 ай бұрын
100% Whenever someone is speaking negatively about someone else to you, immediately set a boundary, "Sounds like you and such and such have a problem you two need to work out". The narc will give excuses as to why they can't resolve the issue directly, but hold your boundary. And, know the narc is talking negatively about you to someone else too, while playing your friend.
@hopeausbyn17342 ай бұрын
@@themichaelbarrow Cowards choice . They simply can't handle honesty.
@sandrahbradley15113 ай бұрын
This has happened to me, you have to be very watchful around folks like this .💜
@HilaryTaylor-ug4vl2 ай бұрын
Me as well! It was at work and she targeted me the first day I started. It was truly an eye opening experience and I believe it was the Universe’s way of showing me that there are truly evil beings out there. I am a very trusting person and try to see the best in human beings but now I go with my intuition and believe it when I’m feeling off about something or someone! ☺️✨
@sandrahbradley15112 ай бұрын
👍
@Happydays143853 ай бұрын
My mom did this to me and my sisters. She succeeded. Divide and conquer. I don't even have sisters anymore
@suzannewalek28852 ай бұрын
I had to grieve the loss of my 3 sisters for the same reason. None of us have relationships as adults. Hope you're finding your peace. It was never about us. The narc was serving her own needs at our expense.
@Happydays14385Ай бұрын
@@suzannewalek2885 thank-you for sharing that. It really was never about us in so many ways!
@GloriaGonzalez-zz4wp3 ай бұрын
All about control control control that's the most important with these guys Excuse me these NARCS
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@GloriaGonzalez-zz4wp ~ 💯
@msrenterprises64683 ай бұрын
I can't even remember the last time I was able to say NO to my brother 😢. Such a master evil
@peacerun3 ай бұрын
This is why none of my mother’s 5 children trust or like each other. Heartbreaking….
@hopeausbyn17342 ай бұрын
@@peacerun Divide and conquer. Your didn't know, so it's not your fault.
@DHW2563 ай бұрын
This was at the core of our mother's pathological behavior, followed by envy. She destroyed her family with it.
@hopeausbyn17342 ай бұрын
@@DHW256 Thank goodness for your strength.
@MadManInMyVisions3 ай бұрын
Worst experience when neighbors openly participate in vandalism, smearing, and stalking. Insidious monsters of the dark.
@gotpineinmyeye3 ай бұрын
Gang stalkers send them love and forgiveness. It keeps them at bay. Send them hate, Ill will, murderous thoughts and they will be drawn to you. They are guided by demons not logic.
@yolandaz27063 ай бұрын
You just described my mother's evil games!! Thank you & God bless you Jill for sharing your knowledge & wisdom🙏💜🙏 You look fantastic!!
@josephinecameron69633 ай бұрын
This is what happened to me over a 30 year period. I have now cut them all out my life, it's been painful because it was my sister, sister in law and daughter in law 🙏 I'm beginning to heal but still suffer from trauma 🩷
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
I believe this is what my soon to be ex is doing with our 3 daughters! So sad & so sick! He lost control of me so now he’s turned them all against me somehow… Breaks my heart 💔
@virginiahart44803 ай бұрын
My Ex did the same thing. All of my children now hate me and I don't even know why. 😢
@Leokat3343 ай бұрын
@@NicciFae this is what my ex did to me. It’s evil and abusive to the kids. They’re half mom and half dad so they must believe half of them is bad. Very sad.
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@Leokat334 ~ my girls are older, 19, 24 & 28 but if he can manipulate me he certainly can them as well! I told him you hate me and want to hurt me so much, but do you realize you’re hurting them as well, but then I realized a true narcissist, doesn’t care about anyone but themselves! I can’t believe I married one & feel horrible he’s the father of my girls! 😡
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@Leokat334 ~ & yes exactly what you said! If you are cutting down a parent it will affect them internally. I haven’t told them what he’s done not to protect him but to protect them!
@maxeadon20213 ай бұрын
My daughter too. Lost her to my ex ess narratives.
@maidenmarion22683 ай бұрын
My mother to a tee. Always used triangulation tactic of gossiping tp put others down or put her own children against each other so nobody would look at her insecurities. or failures. She always has a scapegoat to blame for her failures when these insecurities that cause her failures have always been her own to deal with.
@yolandaz27063 ай бұрын
Mine too... At 56 years old both my brothers still hate me because of our mother's evil games... It's horrible. So sorry you had to endure that cruel behaviour too.
@maidenmarion22683 ай бұрын
@@yolandaz2706 Dealt with many different narcissists' and the flying monkeys over the last few years. Learnt a lot about how they operate. Coverts... overts ... even sociopaths'. I could write a novel on these evil wicked people. 😀
@LoveHashem-13 ай бұрын
Jill is beautiful! Supermodel! Wow! Who would want to hurt her? Oh yes.. that’s right.. the narcissist..
@maxeadon20213 ай бұрын
My dad told me at breakfast that i am banned from the house he will visit me in prison and that i am a failure because i don't tell people what to do. Stood there grinning believing his own narrative. That it was in the bag, my arrest, my imprisonment, my loss of income etc. I stood up, looked at him, made him laugh because that i how i wanted to see him for the last time. But he didn't know that.
@Savedbygrace2u2 ай бұрын
This is sooooo good! It’s so diabolical that this happens. I’m learning so much about the narcissist. In fact, I’ve worked with one for a while. This person is everything that you’ve described. Even triangulating. I was taken advantage of because I had lost a loved one. Nothing romantic involved but he was training me and pretended that he was like a son to me. 😢. He was taking advantage of me financially. I was in a vulnerable position at the time but when I got away from him the scales were dropping. I felt guilt and shame for allowing this to happen. But God is a loving and merciful God. He has given me strength to move forward. He’s a predator and is doing this to other women. Romantically. He’s a sociopath, physical and emotional abuser. There’s one young lady that he’s dating now and she doesn’t have a clue about him. 😢.
@donald2024on3 ай бұрын
And the sad fact is some victims become the gun of the narcissist, who does not care with anyone. Hello, Jill, each time I see you I think you are younger than last time 🙂 Thank you!
@kaystephens26722 ай бұрын
Hi Jill. Great to see you again. Yes. Drive wedges because they brain wash. Love that power. It sucks when its your family. Sick.
@MARLA1163 ай бұрын
Triangulated for 30 years. Discarded when it didn't work.
@annicecaldwell12713 ай бұрын
Absolutely !!! Im experienting it right now!!!!!
@robicarmАй бұрын
It's insane to see this wickedness happen in so many types of relationships. Romance, business, friendships, religious circles.
@jasonw26963 ай бұрын
This is exactly what my mother-in-law does. She has single-handedly help destroy five entire families . And no one has held her accountable. 😔
@kenny-bm7pt10 күн бұрын
The Enlightened Target is so beautiful
@MarcusBlvins2 ай бұрын
Mistrusts is the main reason why I just prayed about it and God show me a sign today
@juliefitzgerald60422 ай бұрын
My husband did this with me and my stepdaughter. He finally admitted that he "liked the women in his life fighting over him". One of the sickest things I ever heard.
@reneeallen92693 ай бұрын
My crazy mil is the queen of triangulation. She has torn her own family to shreds pitting her children against each other. She has a golden child, an invisible child, and a scapegoat child. My husband and our family are scapegoated, isolated, smeared, and discarded by the whole family because of her evil nonsense.
@maxeadon20213 ай бұрын
My dad told me at breakfast that i am banned from the house he will visit me in prison and that i am a failure because i don't tell people what to do. Stood there grinning believing his own narrative. That it was in the bag, my arrest, my imprisonment, my loss of income etc. I stood up, looked at him, made him laugh because that i how i wanted to see him for the last time. But he didn't know that.
@lisadevillers472 ай бұрын
Been there, at first nobody knows until much later what the narc did... they alienate all family members from each other... it's a sick mental game
@lafawnbelle40592 ай бұрын
He would always try to tell me that my daughters were always trying to take my place as the mother of my family like it was a competition but I would laugh at him and say that you don't know what you're talking about and he would get mad because it didn't work. I also told my daughters in front of him and they would laugh and say men always think everything is a competition.
@sandraleehurst73503 ай бұрын
My ex husband of 31 yrs did this btwn our daughter and me. He’s now my ex of a lil over two months. I was incredibly ill a decade from a med injury caused by a dr . I was too sick to leave. As soon as I started regaining my health, he assaulted me Dec 5th. I’m learning how to navigate life again on top of the divorce and happier than i have been in a very long time. I am struggling financially bc i haven’t worked in 10 yrs but im on disability for now and the peace is so worth it
@OscarGray-l8x2 ай бұрын
Wo wo wo that is exactly what they are doing to me with my phone. So true mommy so true ❤❤❤❤
@ritasheriff78143 ай бұрын
They also use seniors to manupulate carevivers as well.shame on them
@gracegrace95673 ай бұрын
Sad, sick and unexpected by most of us 😮
@dillp22672 ай бұрын
In my case, my spouse kept promising he would take a second wife because it’s legal in our new country. And he had no problem telling me who he’s picked or is talking to.
@nancykenessey78893 ай бұрын
My boyfriend did this with me and his friend's girlfriend. Told her all these bad things about me and even set me up by telling me such atrocious lies about me to myself that i fell for it and started hitting him and his phone was ready and recording while he repeated, "im sending this to her! (Her name here). At the time i didnt care about that cuz i was too horrified with his behavior. It wasnt until later that i caught onto their inappropriate relationship of talking shit about their partners to each other. He wouldve left me for her had she wanted him but she didnt. She just used him to spy on her own guy. So humiliating
@hibiscus19743 ай бұрын
my mother is malignant, she also always use this tactic, now she is 75 years old, still healthy and still acts the same way
@YolandaGuisama-u6m3 ай бұрын
More ideas to learn.
@clairegordon87653 ай бұрын
Is this why my they mention their ex calling or coming over to create insecurity and competition
@Ele115273 ай бұрын
I'm the scapegoat, I've chosen to not engage. No text, no calls, nada.
@naveedrehman29873 ай бұрын
My “ex” did the triangulation thing.
@jenniferschultz43013 ай бұрын
Mine, too. Worst 7 years of my life. No more.
@ScottPfeister-r1o2 ай бұрын
They do it's pure hell my life was destroyed
@anitagoldman36832 ай бұрын
I will. Never hurt you! I like you!
@monisantini-kelly65812 ай бұрын
My mom unly uses my son and I since she doesn't have anyone else in her life. If we die, shevll be inexorably alone
@connielitterell1742Ай бұрын
This is exactly what my mom is doing to me now
@AnnMassey-ug4xw3 ай бұрын
Parental alienation is a form of triangulation.
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@AnnMassey-ug4xw ~ & it’s disgusting that someone would do that!!
@KellyBunting2 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes
@angel7729213 ай бұрын
💯,..❤
@jjesseeliza05273 ай бұрын
Yup!
@exaltationofthecaveoracles82413 ай бұрын
They're THE worst!! Their passion e aggressive behaviors and stealth tactics are just pure evil in my opinion. It's the plotting and planning they do that just brings another level of evil. They have so many chances to "abort mission" because of the amount of time they put into their abuse. They seem to get extra special pleasure from the Shock and Awe of it all and the fact that their Target's have no clue that they're interacting with the enemy. They're so flippin weird to me. I can cognitively understand how their brain works, but because it's so foreign to me it makes my head spin. How do they go through life like this? But, I realize it's because this is how they feel normal and fulfilled. They need to cause pain and chaos to feel content in life. I believe that's the definition of being evil. LITERAL "demons" in the flesh. Creeepy! They make my skin crawl now and I get a sick feeling in my stomach 🤢🤮
@novakandfaith1232 ай бұрын
They are influenced by the devil, that's why they cause the pain they cause, it's in the Bible. And it's also satan who enables them to cause harm and get away with it. That gets much worse when there's witchcraft and sorcery involved.
@LadyDivaD1AnOnly2 ай бұрын
This is so very true. I believe the covert narcissist is a lot worse than the overt narcissist. Atleast the overt is out and upfront w how he operates.
@maxeadon20212 ай бұрын
Coverts are more slimy and in the end you cannot even stand being in the same room. My dad kept telling me how physically weak my brother was and then was over the moon when he thought i was going to prison. Well i just looked at him and kicked myself for ever helping him when no one else would.
@novakandfaith1232 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with you, a covert narcissist in my family nearly reduced my life to nothing. Only now in my early 40s it's been revealed to me how sinister and creepy this covert narcissist was working behind the scenes to ruin my life. He got other people to do the dirty work for him to keep my life miserable. He noticed it was easy as I was surrounded by the most miserable cowards of the children of men.
@maxeadon20212 ай бұрын
@@novakandfaith123 It's never too late to realize and to start over. I am trying a bit of religion because revenge, malice and anger lead to a poisoned heart and anger is simply giving someone else permission to harm you, if it's a parent, then they almost have complete control of you. If people are no longer in your life then God heard the conversations you did not hear. Liked what you said. Gives me comfort.
@dianahummel18743 ай бұрын
They do this to to their own very young children living in their home. EVIL MINDS.
@AL_theDrifter3 ай бұрын
My ex wife triangulated her coworkers, her staff, her mentor and her daughter, her own parents, then me and mine, then me and my daughter. Then claimed Im the narcissist. 😂😂😂😂. So glad Im done with that psychotic demon.
@maxeadon20212 ай бұрын
I am so sorry to here that. I have has several land on me but as i got older i felt less guilt about what i had to do in order to survive. Daughters are favourite weaponry, it's like a newer model of them ready to go.
@StrengthNLove3 ай бұрын
Love you
@TimO81573 ай бұрын
All day long!
@jasonsmith35943 ай бұрын
Hey listen if it doesn’t feel right walk away save yourself this bollicks time money love etc walk away block delete move on there loss jog on !!!!!
@MichiganSilverBack3 ай бұрын
Sounds like my wife and our 3 daughters..
@virginiahart44803 ай бұрын
My Ex turned all 3 of our children against me also in retaliation for me reporting him and his criminal network that I discovered, uploading over 3,000+ pieces of actual, hard evidences. Such a despicable thing to do to the children and the other parent that has tried to protect them from such heinous abuses, crimes and frauds. The Judges were in on the many crimes/frauds and abuses from the beginning so they refuse to stop him, of which I have absolute, undeniable evidence. I am so sorry that you are going through that. It truly is heartbreaking. 😢 I wish that I could tell you it would get better when they get older but honestly I don't know if it will or not.
@MichiganSilverBack3 ай бұрын
@virginiahart4480 yea, 30 yrs this year. The first 25 I spent at work. We've been in therapy for 3. Its better right now, but Iam afraid leaving therapy will remove the boundries and it will be back to business as usual.
@virginiahart44803 ай бұрын
@@MichiganSilverBack I am glad it is better for you now. Ask your therapist for advice moving forward. Don't allow your children to disrespect you or your boundaries or it will get much worse! Because I have wanted a relationship with my children, I have allowed disrespect out of desperation and because I know that my children are being systematically brainwashed against me in retaliation. However, it has just gotten so much worse and dangerous!!! 😢So, I will now refuse to put up with any disrespect and leave it in God's hands to decide if I my children ever come back to a healthy, respectful relationship with me or never see me again. I can't continue to beg for basic human decency anymore, nor should I. My children's disrespect towards me isn't going to stop me from pursuing criminal charges against their Father and his criminal network. I will keep you in my prayers that you continue to make positive progress with your children. ❤️
@kerrytaggart82063 ай бұрын
@@MichiganSilverBackTherapy, if you have a very good and knowledgeable therapist, which is rare, is only effective for the victim. Unfortunately, there is no effective therapy for the narc. This is why there is such a big following on KZbin towards experts on narcissism. We learn and we support each other in our trials and pain.
@maxeadon20213 ай бұрын
Heard that so many times and also my own child.
@kriskairn37153 ай бұрын
Paula Staunton . You do this.
@JKDVIPER3 ай бұрын
How can we catch em though, that’s my thing. Because on the one hand, if they can merely PRESS PLAY and have consequences handed down, it’s kinda hard to fight back against that. Hard, not impossible because some of us have won in the long run 😬but... how to SPOT IT? I was thinking anytime you have or see an individual that cannot stand on their own, that’s part and parcel for a flying monkey or narcissist to have a field day with. Weak minded or push over types who just like to agree seem to do the bidding. As in some of our cases, these BAD ACTORS try to shame/smear/gossip/ruin your life while projecting a healthy on the level/stable LOOK.” ☺️👍💯thanks!
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@JKDVIPER ~ knowledge is power & it’s very prevalent & out there now so it will make it much easier to spot one & much harder for them!
@JKDVIPER3 ай бұрын
@@NicciFae right. That’s the thing. I think... oh man... this is hard. But I think on some level, it boils down to a core, WHAT OUR REACTION IS. 1. What do we do in real time OUR ACTIONS. 2. How do we perceive the situation. 3. How do we FEEL deep down. Not just thought, but deep GUT INSTINCTS. 4. What’s the total take brass tax no self gas lighting. No pumping up of emotion. Just raw dog looking at pragmatic facts AFTER THE FACT. Then it’s what are we gonna do about it. That was the nifty little nuance we tend to miss. The RESPONSE. If you feel like a bastion of lightening caught up into a bottle, do we let it out? Are we being fair? Has a wrong been done and now we need to be empathetic for our enemies/smear groups? So to me, those are the internals going on in my head. How hard am I supposed to take this? Is All MY STRESS coming out like a lazer on this one perceived slights, or set of abuses? It gets deep, I absolutely love this kind of work. It’s been so healthy for us to work on cognitive dissidence together.” 😎👍💯
@maidenmarion22683 ай бұрын
One can't really tell if they are in an abusive narc relationship until they have worked out the many traits and patterns a narc uses. I have found different narcissistic relationships should be dealt with in differing ways depending on what the relationship is to the victim. The problem for many is if it is a family member that is the covert narcissist with a posy of flying monkeys (usually other family members or relatives), does one leave the entire family or certain members of that family, it's so easy to get dragged back into an abusive family dynamic if one doesn't cut them all out. As for nasty neighbors call them out and give their nasty back to them. Screen-shoot all their cyber bullying if internet stalking is what is happening and take it to the police. Workplace narcissism is different again because one would have to be careful how they would handle leaving a position if a covert narc and flying monkeys are involved. 💜
@JKDVIPER3 ай бұрын
@@maidenmarion2268 you have a comprehensive understanding here. ☺️🙏💯
@nikosoto-q5g3 ай бұрын
This is my mother 😢
@dutchberean28043 ай бұрын
I hate them.
@robbyphillips52513 ай бұрын
I know a woman like this
@jananabanana31803 ай бұрын
Sounds like my brother.....if narcs are CREATED,and not born..... I'm trying to figure out which of our parents was the narc...BOTH ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE...!!! do narcs ever appear out of the blue.....???😮
@earthelucidator2 ай бұрын
💯
@robertkirk46772 ай бұрын
🎯 Route of escape.. out of reach
@robertkirk46772 ай бұрын
And focus on themselves and escape triangulation Yes.....
@varchives-d3p2 ай бұрын
My family is sick💁🏼♂️🤦🏼💊👹😈
@duck98862 ай бұрын
Do all of them do this?
@skippy64623 ай бұрын
Does anyone share this on social media? If so what happens?
@SunkenButterfly2 ай бұрын
Classic mother in law bs... especially if you LIVE IN THEIR HOME... GROSS!!!!🤮 never fall for a guy whose mother is his tyrannical GARBAGE dictator of his life... You will be treated like a broodmare... a doormat if you do not go along to get along... Personal experience here... F that sh*t... i am alone, live. And well, living in peace praise be to God who helped me out of that sh*tshow, before marriage,kids, etc.. 💪 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Btw.... IM SPAYED!!!! LMFAO SERIOUSLY 🤣 PRAISE GOD!!!! 🦋
@michelegray59703 ай бұрын
My MIL to the T
@-bs2lz3 ай бұрын
Tranglalation not involving.😂😂😂
@MarcellaVasquez-rn7re3 ай бұрын
They need to get a life
@Leokat3343 ай бұрын
My daughter has always triangulated and I’ve told her to stop it every time. She’s now a huge narcissist and abusive especially to me her mother and her husband and sees herself as this savior of others. She’s caused division and estrangement with my 2nd daughter who’s 9 years younger than her. I love her more than anything but honestly I don’t like her anymore at this point. She thinks she’s the most educated and accomplished and had the nerve to tell me I’m jealous of her. She told me I’d lose my beauty and die alone and no one loves me or likes me & that means all my kids. She even told me my dead mother couldn’t stand me or love me. Guess where she got all her information? HER DAD! He treated her like a princess and could do no wrong and put her above me. I hope she gets a good therapist who finally calls her out on her crap and she deals with whatever is causing such low self esteem to abuse others.
@NicciFae3 ай бұрын
@@Leokat334 ~ wow does this ever sound familiar!! You just described my oldest daughter & she has such an influence on my youngest daughter, who’s 9 years younger. It’s devastating!!!
@Leokat3343 ай бұрын
@@NicciFae very devastating! I’m now trying to reconcile with my younger daughter and she’s open to it and plans to come for thanksgiving. I am praying somehow we can bond and I don’t loose her again. If my oldest gets wind of it I’m sure something will happen. My son’s birthday is thanksgiving and I want him to come to. She influences him also. They’re missing out on a mother who loves them and wants a relationship with them. I’ll continue to pray for my oldest who is going on 37. It only seems to get worse like her father.
@fasyarizkinazka74732 ай бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@mahaliawilson-ik4gl2 ай бұрын
Liers. Cheaters..messy. shit starters😮
@matthewwall66442 ай бұрын
No shit
@roystonlewis43563 ай бұрын
I think you make this stuff up
@MUaña6713 ай бұрын
Be grateful you cannot relate to this! Honestly your reply has me assuming you’re a narcissist yourself
@christopheryurkiewicz73952 ай бұрын
Your glasses ruin any point you are blathering Madam.?