Games That Are Better on a Weaker Console

[@GameSack]

What are some titles you feel are better on a weaker system?

[@MarkCurtis-u6o]

Arguably, Gradius 3 is much more fleshed out on SNES than on the arcade. Also, the SNES version of Chrono Trigger is much better than the PS1 version.

[@marbles8641]

You gotta remember that in the PS1 version of Lunar, Working Designs cut xp and gold in half, and doubled the HP/Attack of all monsters... Because, of course they did. I played the Japanese Saturn release before the PS1, and was surprised how different the leveling was. I do LOVE the Sega CD version more because of how much WD screwed the PS1.

[@reyvgm]

The Wii Ghostsbusters is more enjoyable than the PS360 versions. Star Wars Episode 3 is much better on the GBA than on the DS. Adventure Island 1 & 2 for the GB are more fair and control much better than the NES versions. Same for Milon's Secret Castle. The NES Ninja Gaiden 1, 2 & 3 are much better than the awful SNES "remakes" Punch Out for the NES is a million times better than the Arcade one. The first 2 Harry Potter games are better on the GBC than the consoles versions because the GBC ones are RPGs. The GBC and GBA Mario Golf and Mario Tennis are superior than the N64/GC versions purely because the portable versions have an RPG-like story mode. Lord of the Rings The Two Towers and Return of the King are both good on portables and consoles, but I think the GBA versions are the better games because they are Diablo/Baldur's Gate clones.

[@0ring0]

There are some games that were better on consoles than arcade. Contra and Super C were WAY better on the NES as well as Bionic Commando and Turtles In Time.

[@marbles8641]

Have you tried Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble yet? (New game for 2024)

[@JazGalaxy]

There’s something hysterical about Batman crossing the street at a crosswalk and waiting for traffic to let him pass.

[@oogrooq]

BATMAN RETURNS his books to the library.

[@tchipz]

"Quickly Robin, to the crosswalk!" - Adam West Batman

[@remarkablehairdo3110]

​@@oogrooqBATMAN BEGINS To proceed across the street only when it is safe and courteous to do so.

[@HenryStudioCA]

The fine line between hero and vigilante... is whether or not you obey basic cross-walking rules.

[@vtmarik]

"Batman? What are you doing? Joker's getting away!" "Robin, it is not proper to cross against the pedestrian signal." "Gosh Batman, I hadn't considered that. It would be unsafe for us and the drivers." "Precisely Robin, that is what separates citizens like us against ne'er-do-wells like The Joker."

[@DoomTrain84]

Hey Joe, long time viewer here. I just wanted to thank you for keeping Gamesack going. It's been my favorite gaming channel since before Dave had to leave. Keep doing your thing man, it's much appreciated by us boomers here who grew up with the all these systems you cover

[@publichearing8536]

would've gotten into gaming in one's late 20s to early 40s as a boomer. Don't be embarassed about gen X or Y 😌

[@DJ_InYourFace]

Man, the editing on the end skit is TIGHT. It avoids that mistake that everyone makes, where there's a silence between each "character's" reply. Feels like real dialogue, kudos 1992 Joe!

[@Elmarapoo]

Joe’s hair looked better on a weaker system.

[@ParsnipCelery]

That's ice cold man.

[@DGFTardin]

Joe's everything looked better on the weaker system.

[@poindextertunes]

COOKED EM 💀

[@deaconfrost4744]

True!

[@behindthewolfseyes]

it's got that close to the head, low-res look of a Goldeneye character

[@Vulpas]

Your sense of humor hasn't changed since '92, that's cool lol

[@radcowley]

So phat

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Oh but his lips 💋 have.... (they proper phat .....or is the word 'thicc'?) Check out the next episode bless Joe. I wont time stamp it but you'll see it 😅 Joe Really did "Glam up" What a reddifer!

[@iHawke]

It's hammer time!

[@jaynukem1929]

That post credit skit was one of the best ones he's done. And he looked to be just a teenager. He sure has been doing this awhile.

[@ViskasVelniop]

Lol when i first read this before viewing i thought you were commenting on how jr hadnt aged

[@yoteca]

It's actually a bit disturbing. I hope it's just for a good laugh :D

[@Jesse__H]

​@@yoteca of course it's just a bit of fun!

[@basket472]

Lol how soft are you ​@@yoteca

[@jastiksk8crw]

AI is getting out of hand. Jk jk lol

[@pattersong6637]

Great video. I have a suggestion for next time you do this: Rodea the Sky Soldier Wii >>> Rodea the Sky Soldier Wii U. (2015) Rodea the Sky Soldier Wii is a pretty fantastic Wii game, feeling like a much improved descendant of Nights into Dreams. It was finished way too late in the Wii's lifespan to release so they ported it to 3DS and then upressed the 3DS version for Wii U and the Wii U version was notoriously awful. When it came out the Wii U version included the Wii Version as a "bonus" but it was the actual main product. The poor game got destroyed in reviews because the reviewers were reviewing the terrible Wii U version and treated the Wii version like a bonus rather than the main product, which is what it really was. I'm one of the I think very very few proud owners of Rodea the Sky Soldier and still love it (Wii version) despite what everyone says about it.

[@GameSack]

I was wondering about that. I own it but only played the Wii U disc. I hated it. Now I know I need to check out the Wii disc.

[@pattersong6637]

The Rodea the Sky Soldier story is wild and if you do put it in a video researching it for a bit will baffle you. Amazingly enough the Wii game even looks better visually because the Wii U game is the 3DS version upscaled to HD and has 3DS quality assets. The big difference is the controls. Rodea Wii is one of the better implementations of the Wiimote's motion controls and I'd argue the one of the absolute best non-first party Nintendo Wiimote uses. Flight feels incredibly natural. Wii U version loses all of that. Rodea's just cursed it didn't come out in the Wii's prime in like 2009 or 2010.

[@SegaLordX]

Excellent episode. I was working on a similar topic but you nailed this so well I can put that to rest.

[@GameSack]

Ooops sorry, lol

[@BabusGameRoom]

Don't put it to rest! There's still room on KZbin! lol

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

MR LORD X and Mr Reddifer. You 2 and a certain Guru who hasn't uploaded in a very long time due to health reasons (hope he's well soon) Really have a very profound effect on my life....much to my wife's rolling eyes too 😅 Much love and mr Lord X Nike it! I mean - just do it!!

[@BushidoBrownSama]

Gamesack killed it & they cooked, but there's still meat on that bone

[@Shroomamite]

I want to see your version too SLX ❤

[@lowresinpeace1168]

Game Sack Forever

[@jeeziss]

GSF for life homie.

[@galfordsdog8784]

I actually like that you've been doing this for 30 years, because you have to come up with some pretty unique subjects.

[@bugsfm8840]

agreed, the recent topics have made me click right away

[@RappingNinja]

30 years is…. surely not possible? Did he have a cable access show in 1994?

[@galfordsdog8784]

@@RappingNinja Almost certainly.

[@JasonFord-l3p]

Yeah what?

[@jmcclain8237]

I want to see the Joe Redifer show extended cut.

[@BrickTamlandOfficial]

scary

[@zg-it]

Extended Hair... Cut

[@rfmerrill]

22:15 fun fact: The Master System version was officially credited to Sega, but in fact it was developed under contract by a brand new (at the time) studio called Arc System Works!

[@aaronbasham6554]

Oh shit. I literally got a Master System and the game over the weekend, and didn't realize it was an Arc game. That's actually awesome to know.

[@RandomGreenKirb]

THE SAME ARC SYSTEM WORKS THAT MADE GUILTY GEAR AND DRAGON BALL FIGHTERZ?!?!?!

[@TheRadiaforce]

@@RandomGreenKirb eventually foreshadowing their ownership of the Double Dragon IP I see...

[@JuanPerez-bd3hp]

27:02 Did he dislike his own video? 💀

[@michaelmacorso4479]

Lol you are right

[@fabio78]

Hahaha great catch, wtf

[@Jesse__H]

He has shown shots of his own videos in maybe half a dozen episodes in the past, and he ALWAYS dislikes them 😁

[@michaelmacorso4479]

@Jesse__H I just find it funny. I love his videos

[@DGFTardin]

He always does that, it's a running gag

[@CassiDS]

10:38 Shoutouts to JRPGs that have your party members follow you in the overworld

[@MrVariant]

Just weird to mention lunar but timestamp me if pier solar was mentioned given genesis and other versions. 11:34 is better though let alone random encounters were terrible, no idea why vid would say it. Glad lunar touch on iOS overhauled things to be definitive. 12:22 just use basic attacks.

[@toejamandearl8110]

JRPGs? Seriously, can't we all just be friends and call them RPGs like they were originally dubbed.

[@jbailey690]

@MrVariant Overwhelming majority of Lunar fans have the Sega CD version aa the Definitive, PSP and PSX are both laughably inferior. You are unequivocally wrong.

[@MrVariant]

@jbailey690 you're taking this too seriously and omit those cool physical extras from the ps1 version. Let alone no comment on mobile that even has a boost mode. I pity you. Psp has load times so I could understand that, but the opening with dyne and the other heroes for a prologue battle was cool.

[@MrVariant]

@toejamandearl8110 it's a style of rpg, originating fron japan. I can't stand the false racist claim. Wanna call it turn-based with strategy grid based?

[@gars129]

Sometimes context its just important. Tales of Phantasia on PS1 has more colors and cd audio, but the SNES version was an achievement for that console. Its a very Star Wars Special Edition vs theatrical thing.

[@axelprino]

When you realize that Joe Redifer from the Joe Redifer Show (later renamed) has had the same style and sense of humor to his sketches since 1992

[@nessdbest8708]

were those real?

[@axelprino]

@@nessdbest8708 dunno, but I don't have much of a reason to doubt that it was from 1992 given that he looks young enough in that video for it to actually be from that year. It wouldn't be the first time that he managed to work an old sketch from before his youtube days into one of his videos.

[@nessdbest8708]

@@axelprino So this guy was like the 1st youtuber before youtube?

[@axelprino]

@@nessdbest8708 not quite? More likely he liked making video sketches from a young age and had access to a camcorder, humor existed before the internet.

[@nessdbest8708]

@@axelprinoi know that, its just kind of sad

[@gregorys9629]

Game Sack always comes up with such interesting topics for retro game videos!

[@anthonydotmoe]

It’s true! Thanks Joe!

[@SlowSpyder]

I never played Lunar on the PS1, but I have the Sega CD version and can say without even bothering to hear the PS1 version, they shouldn't have touched the music. Lunar the Silver Star music on the Sega CD is some of the best in any game I've played.

[@jbailey690]

You're lucky, all fans were dissapointed by the inferior PSX Remakes. They killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@GABuckeye37]

@@jbailey690Jesus christ dude are you gonna copy and paste this same thing on every reply that mentions the game…?

[@DMBramblett]

I don't know how he didn't play the intro song.

[@Videogamelover58]

Awesome video. Cool seeing a video from you in 1992

[@shigshug8581]

Very cool

[@a_alla_quarta9294]

It's so mindblowing, thinking that while I was turning one year old you were already making the same kind of weird-ass content you make now! I love it!

[@bombjack1984]

Its weird how natural a fit Super Monkey Ball is to the GameCube, considering the original Monkey Ball is actually a Naomi arcade game.

[@crunchinjelly]

It was originally going to be ported to Dreamcast. There was even a press kit sent out with DC screenshots.

[@gryphman]

I remember the GBA port being shockingly good.

[@Edexote]

​@@crunchinjellyit's a prototype waiting to be discovered.

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

18:10 The catch with the Master System port is that you respawn right where you left off, you have more field of view, and you actually upgrade your batarang gradually by collecting icons.

[@RGT85]

Say his name and he appears I believe in Joe Redifer

[@MelRetro]

YES!! He will always come through!! 🙏

[@RealSantinoblack804]

👏 👏 👏

[@alex64gaming]

Joe Redifer 👀

[@OuTSMOKE]

From SE-GA, NIN-TEN-DO, to 3-D-OOOOOOOH!

[@shigshug8581]

My favorite Nintendo KZbinr

[@Astfgl]

Just got myself a 32X last week, still waiting for the patch cable to arrive. I can’t wait to play the best home version of Virtua Racing!

[@DatBeastard]

For as small as the library is for the 32X, there's some decent titles for the system. I highly recommend Virtua Fighter along with After Burner and Space Harrier. Shadow Squadron/Stellar Assault is also worth a look.

[@Astfgl]

@@DatBeastard Thanks! I'll be sure to check them all out.

[@PollyGlodd]

About Batman: Returns, there is an NES version by Konami. It's a nice beat em up game with awesome music.

[@GameSack]

I played it briefly, but the one life and no continues was a big bummer for me. Otherwise great!!

[@logan_cadfgs]

8:21 looks like ALL versions of Virtua Racing do the center-axis rotation thing - It’s just way more egregious on the PS2 version - the car starts pivoting it at the slightest tilt of the stick, in a much more pronounced way that other versions. Always made that version feel a little slippery to me, even if it actually controls rather well

[@Screwy]

I'm surprised Rodea The Sky Soldier didn't show up in this topic, probably one of the most emblematic examples

[@yordansic]

Not really.

[@felman87]

I 100% agree with Lunar. I love the Sega CD versions. Alex not having magic at the start really gave you a feel for how tough life could be without it. Once you got Nash, he easily dispatched enemies. And once Alex got Flame, things were way easier to deal with. The fact that the only person in your party who didn't use magic was Kyle, who was one of the toughest fighters in the region. Really puts things into perspective.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@jbailey690 The remakes were on the Saturn first. And both in graphics and sound, FAR superior to the Playstation. They were only in Japan though. While the Lunar 2 remake faired better since less was changed, it still lost some of the spirit of the Sega CD original, but almost made up for it with the better cutscenes. Lunar 1 though, yeah the Sega CD is far superior whether you're talking Saturn or Playstation. If you get a chance though, check out the Saturn versions of the remakes. Visual effects are MUCH better, it almost looks like a newer gen game compared to the Playstation. Music is WAY better too.

[@jbailey690]

​@StormsparkPegasus I agree and co-sign all of this, I've played the Saturn versions which are definitely better and have the Saturn OST downloaded since some of it was better quality versions of the Sega CD Soundtracks. There's translated ROMs of the Saturn versions out there btw, definitely recommend them as the second best option after the SEGA CD OGs. Awesome to talk to an actual fellow Lunar fan btw. I agree with Eternal Blue Complete being closer to the superior SEGA CD originals than the disssapointing inferior Silver Star Complete on PSX but even with that said battle system, skill and magic spell visual and sound effects, overworld exploration, sprite work etc etc were all still far better on the SEGA CD version of Eternal Blue. There were a few other changes but the one I hated most was how they cut the Hiro and Lord Leo bonding moment, when they were alone and fought side by side to escape Althenas Cult trying to murder them both in the tower. Also hated how they got rid of that awesome magic experience level up system under Ruby's menu in the Sega CD Original. I did like all of the Working Designs goodies for the Remakes though but agreed as for the games themselves the Sega CD OGs were far better, it's not even close either.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@jbailey690 Yep...I liked the additional content with the floating goddess tower. But I just wish that could've been added to the original games without all of the changes.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Good to know that Joe's deadpan humor has been a staple of Game Sack since the Early 90s, assuming that it already existed by then. Now that's dedication.

[@VideoAssaultSaturday]

Absolutely loved Lunar back in the late 90's!

[@Greenalink]

The only things SMS Batman Returns did better over Game Gear was having a higher framerate and not "resetting" a boss fight for dying... only a Game Over can cause a reset (really lives counter is more like a HP counter lol). Fun fact: SMS Batman has a wrong warp glitch where if you damage boost yourself onto the bus and then land on top of it, by holding right to touch the edge of the screen you wrong warp to level 5. Speedruns use Route 2 for lv1 because the wrong warp takes Batman to level 5-4, the last platforming segment before the boss. Lastly, I still think GG Batman Returns and GG Shinobi games share the same engine. 1) Same framerate 2) Similar lifebar hud 3) Similar grapple swings 4) Separate screen for magic

[@JumpJetFriend]

I found Joe (and Dave!) a couple weeks ago and have binged what must be a couple hundred videos since then. Absolute gems, all of 'em. Thanks for the hard work over the years.

[@GameSack]

Glad you're enjoying the show! :)

[@SylverstoneKhandr]

Seeing Joe flex his Monkey Ball skills is always a delight.

[@ConfusionDistortion]

Couple things worth mentioning. The Genesis port of Double Dragon's rom patch that greatly improves the audio does more than just music, making the game sound like the arcade. Voices and things like the garage door opening sound have been corrected. Concerning Lunar: Silver Star, the Saturn release has been translated, I believe using the Working Designs script and audio.

[@carrito1981]

Joe's 90s helmet hair is astounding

[@Aqua_Xenossia]

If you haven’t checked it out in awhile(or at all), the mobile version of Lunar SSSC got a major upgrade recently that allows you to do stuff like speed up the game, use the SCD UI, use the Saturn OST, and more! It actually controls really well now, and a similar upgrade was applied toward Vay as well, though not as comprehensive.

[@jbailey690]

Will give it a go but the Sega CD versions are by far the best, it's not even close either.

[@rodrigoprataorge1471]

Does the mobile version have a new translation, or is it still Working Designs'?

[@MrNightshade2010]

vay was actually hard .......

[@Aqua_Xenossia]

@@rodrigoprataorge1471 It uses the Working Designs script, but the dubbing and cutscenes are from the PSP version as far as I can tell.

[@nene71286]

The best intro a retrogame show can have. Thanks Joe.

[@brooklynboiprod]

Double Dragon on the NES was dope. That brings back happy memories

[@OSW]

10:10 lunARRR is how pirates pronounce it! 🦜

[@Myridian7652]

What bar is Alex?

[@kayceecheshall2818]

"Time Boner!" Ah, Virtua Racing...

[@nastybedazzler]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that.

[@mercster]

People hear what they wanna hear, I guess...

[@channelsurfing]

TIME BONEH

[@dohctorclark]

Joe should add a new cut away where he goes “did you just say boner?”

[@HoroJoga]

It's like Sega Rally devs when they loved the UK so much that when you finish a race the guy shouts BRITIIIISH everytime.

[@kingtom]

I was a couple months old when you made The Joe Redifer Show. Your sense of humor hasn't changed a bit.

[@marcgilray]

A TATE mode episode could be shot in T A T E mode TATE mode

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

So you mean KZbin Short?

[@marcgilray]

@gluttonousmaximus9048 maybe a bit longer than a short. Think he would say TATE MODE for at least that long

[@tobykassulke2385]

If you think about it, all TikToks are shot in TAAAAAAAAAAAAATE MODE

[@NewGabeOrder]

Portrait, right?

[@CardboardSliver]

​​@@NewGabeOrderno. T A T E

[@PixelOutlaw]

The opening segment on games was pretty good but happy to see the Joe Redifer Show return.

[@borcklaser9234]

So Joe's comedy bits haven't changed in over 30 years! Noice :)

[@loki.odinson]

Can we talk about for a moment the fact that Double Dragon on the NES has the best soundtrack out of all versions of the game, putting even its arcade parent to shame?

[@bahamutbbob]

I'm glad to see Joe's sense of humor has been just as unhinged at least since 1992!

[@ultramaster.]

Gamesack validates our life. The excitement and happiness we are able to channel.

[@AndDeathForAll82]

Whenever I go online, I always look for glorious Sack

[@mattycipov6080]

Such a great episode. I’m thrilled by how inventive your content is after so many videos.

[@matthewstone5310]

Actually, instead of Super Shredder, I’ve always thought that the boss right before The Joker in the NES “Batman” looked a lot like Quick Man from “Mega Man II.”

[@FloridaEbikes]

Looks like a predator to me

[@eduardorickrot4763]

Man, that walk animation on the game gear Batman looks so nice! Amazing what an inspired developer can do with something so simple,

[@anasevi9456]

I played Lunar 1 when i was ten or so from a cousins handmedown mega tower of power, then emulated the PS version on psx some years later. I couldnt put my finger on it but noticed the game was more of a 'drag' to grind in, but just assumed i was more easily entertained when younger. Now I know 20 years later my gut feeling was right. lol

[@jbailey690]

Sega CD versions of both Lunars are far better in every way

[@Aluze]

Is that Batman.. cleaning orange paint off of museum paintings? Time is a circle

[@Banderpop]

With the thumbnail featuring a Sega CD and a PlayStation, Lunar The Silver Star came to mind straight away. I feel the same way for the same reasons - music, story changes, and being slower. And, random encounters just fit that adventure so much better, Eternal Blue also. It's a shame that the 32-bit remake ended up being the basis of many re-releases while the brilliant OG was left to be forgotten. A best of both worlds remake would be awesome. But it should have happened long ago, I think all the re-releases of the weaker game have killed all interest in the franchise. Kind of odd to see so much crossover with Sega Lord X's latest video!

[@Edexote]

Does the Saturn version have the same drawbacks as the PS1?

[@Banderpop]

​@@Edexote Yes, apart from, IIRC, the game is on one disc so you don't have to swap, and the music is better quality although it's still the changed tunes. I've no idea why the PlayStation version needed an extra game disc. I don't think there was any additional content but I might be wrong. I forgot to mention, Alex was an almost completely silent protagonist in the 16-bit version, and I preferred it that way also.

[@idklol4197]

1:33 imo thats some of the best animated sewer water ive ever seen in those old 2d games

[@Liquidcadmus]

Batman return of the joker on NES is one of the most clear examples for this topic. it kicks the ass of the SNES and Genesis versions.

[@ramonmarcondes3915]

And the graphics are so good that it even looks like an early Genesis game

[@wiremesh2]

I was almost going to post the same comment. Surprised it didn't come up with how Batman-heavy this video was!

[@wiremesh2]

@@ramonmarcondes3915 I wouldn't say that, it's clearly NES graphics, based on the palette. But it looks far better than the Genesis and SNES versions, just due to having better artists who really knew how to work within the limitations. Makes me wonder what the ports would have looked like had Sunsoft developed them internally.

[@PorcoZio79]

This deserves easily a another episode

[@Mythos_Musik]

Lol what a treasure at the end. Hope there's more where that was buried. Thanks for another great episode.

[@JBM113]

Watching Joe Redifer on KZbin is probably how you've always known how to watch him. He's cool, shows off good games, and yes, has post credit scenes, but not many people know that watching Joe Redifer on VHS os far superior. Here, Joe's a much younger version with no graphical issues which makes him appear younger, and that, never gets old.

[@Rosa_Canina]

Lunar is one of the games I like the older version better, too. ESPECIALLY Eternal Blue (UnWorking Design Patch is a must, though...). The pixel art cutscenes are much more impressive than the compressed Anime FMVs of the PS1/Saturn version. They just aged better.

[@jbailey690]

Yeah it's not even close either, the Sega CD versions are vastly superior.

[@benvanasdale6273]

Most consistently entertaining gaming channel on KZbin. You can't change my mind. We love you, Joe. Never change. And judging by that ending skit, you never will lol

[@SKULDROPR]

Completely agree with your take on Lunar. Once you have played the Sega CD Version, the PlayStation one feels wrong in many ways.

[@FloridaEbikes]

Its funny all the so called quality of life improvements they made are exactly what I wanted but kinda hate now.

[@TaiZidek]

What about the PSP, GBA, IOS and Android releases?

[@rechtehaber]

PSP is the best version by far. Its more of a remake actually. It has all the features, great soundtrack and cutscenes are very good looking. The GBA version is a really inferior version. More of a side/handheld version not the whole game.

[@Timeforceletsgo]

@@rechtehaberI absolutely hate the PSP version, the flash like graphics take away from the charm. To each their own.

[@BlarmyArmy07]

I beat lunar on sega cd & psp. As of now I'm playing the ps1 port and I do have mixed reactions. Am I the only one to.find the ps1 to be really "grindy"

[@mohutch7863]

We love you, Joe. Thank you for these, dude

[@OhMyPoBoy]

Sometimes, sacks are more enjoyable on older models. Let’s take a moment to appreciate old sacks!

[@ribletbasket286]

And old models 👍🍻

[@danwroy]

Joe pioneered the Talk Show in Profile format, where you observe the conversation like an onlooker in an airport or restaurant.

[@Xodyak]

Have to agree with your Lunar take. While the PS1 version has all the updated bells and whistles, its focus on presentation slows down battles whereas the original felt snappy. Also thought the plot was subtraction by addition. It felt unnecessary and lost a lot of things that made the original feel more "special". Anyway, someone talked about Lunar so I have to say something. Great episode!

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@Palendrome]

This is a great subject, I'd love a whole series of these

[@robzo87]

After midnight snack!! Always pleased with new Game Sack! Happy Sunday from North Carolina.

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

Always a pleasure to watch a new Game Sack video. Thank you for all that you do!

[@michaeljaystaufferjoyce7235]

Lunar SS on sega CD is the best version, followed by the PS/Saturn, and then GBA Lunar legend.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@jaritsu]

I will forever stan for the NES Sunsoft Batman. It punches waaaay above its weight in terms of art direction, graphic fidelity (using so much black to mask the limited color palette) and most of all gameplay. It is an excellent feeling game to play. And despite having not heard the first stage music in over 20 years, I can recall it perfectly.

[@madson-web]

I agree about Virtua Racing having too much dithering in the MD version but I disagree about CRT blending. It depends on the game and resolution. Virtua racing uses a lower horizontal resolution which doesn't benefit as much from the CRT blending. Also it dithers the entire screen at once, so theres no miracle, but still works better than any current display anyway. But you can go play Kirby to see an excelent example. Transparency is pure 'dither' stripes and it is never visible on CRT, but it uses higher resolution in those elements

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

yeah the resolution and just overall obscenity of the graphics is the problem there. a lot of PS1 titles look great on CRT.

[@madson-web]

@@TheJacklikesvideos The color depth o PS1 helps a lot and indeed it looks awesome

[@karlmueller1980]

I played lunar one on the PSP, but I’m eager to see what the new lunar one and two collection is gonna have.

[@EnigmaHood]

I'll also add a few. Doom on the Jaguar is better than the 3DO version, and the Sega Saturn version. Chrono Trigger on the SNES is better than the PS1 version (I think it was only released in Japan, and while it has some new stuff, it also has load times which make it the worse version). Ninja Gaiden Black on the Xbox original is generally regarded as better than Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3. Sigma added some new stuff, but it also took away some stuff, and reduced the difficulty in a way that made the game generally less enjoyable. Debatably Mario 64 and Diddy Kong Racing. These games were ported/remastered on the Nintendo DS. The DS was more powerful than the N64 in some ways, so it technically counts. Maybe.

[@BurritoKingdom]

Chrono Trigger PS1 was released in the US as part of the Final Fantasy Chronicles. It truly makes no sense why any of the SNES ports have loading between battles and the over world. Especially for FF4 since that game fit on an 8Mb cart, which is half the size of the PS1's RAM. FF4 could have loaded up the whole game file and didn't need to load at all anymore just like Ridge Racer did. And for Chrono Trigger they could have loaded up when you time traveled rather than between the towns, over world and battles. TOSE did a terrible job with their ports

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

i wouldn't consider the Jaguar to be inferior hardware to the 3DO or Saturn. "64 bits YOU DO THE MATH!"

[@3dmarth]

@@BurritoKingdom The North American version of FF4 removed the load times, so it's a pretty good way to play. The only issue is that saving to the memory card is quite slow. There's an option to save to RAM instead, but then all it takes is for the electricity to cut out for a second... Even if Chrono Trigger and FF6 somehow couldn't be split up easily, I still wonder why loading was such an issue in those. The PlayStation can pull over 300 KB/s from the disc, which should be more than enough to grab all of the data it needs in just one second. (300 KB is more than the SNES's entire RAM.) I get that everything was packed tightly into the ROM, but since space was no longer an issue, you'd think they could just put a bunch of stripped-down bundles of data around the disc, e.g., one for 1000 AD music tracks only, one for 600 AD battle graphics only, that kind of thing. But I can only speculate and criticize from here! ;)

[@max_e_maxxy_]

9:20 Well, composite doesn't clean up dithering so much as CRTs do , a consumer grade CRT not a pvm. Maybe even RF...

[@GameSack]

Yeah, I used RF and a consumer CRT back in the day and dithering still bothered me.

[@flaviokauling1436]

About Lunar: Joe is absolutely right! Lunar:the Silver Star in the Sega CD is much better (feels better, extremely charming, much better music, super 90's Working Designs translation, there's even a "Ginsu Knive-set" joke). But the Playstation version is, as the title says, "complete". You actually get to meet every dragon with a complete dragon trial for every one of them, there's more items and the cons back bit, after Ghaleon defeats you, is much longer. You understand why the Goddess made the choice to incarnate and it fits better with the second game. The music, although different for some reason, had the same composer, so, you'll find odd, but they are not bad at all. Just avoid the Game Boy Advanced version.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@TheRetroBristolian]

100% do a part 2! Really enjoyed this one!

[@derekbuckler9888]

And no, your not wrong. the best version of Lunar is definitely on the Sega CD, which I think is a severely underrated console. I honestly don't care for the remakes, I'd rather play the originals.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@Andres33AU]

I need to see more of your older skits! I also love how early 90s it is with Sonic and T2 in the background/props!

[@Chezne]

Oh you are totally right about Lunar.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@n0isyturtle]

I love the DD Genesis sound, but probably because the Ballistic cart is the one I grew up on. It's so crunchy and crude, and I love it apologetically!

[@sikeyimboyleisi]

Can we get back to 90s please

[@sikeyimboyleisi]

Im downloading the V.R. For my switch now

[@kamenrob8500]

This is a great ending , it's insane to think how much legit talent this man has

[@Paradigmfusion]

Ill give you Lunar.. the sega CD version was a better game, but the cinematics on the PS1 were so much cleaner!!

[@CarfDarko]

Wow, I never had a change to sit down with the PC-Engine but it was amazing to see how many graphics where used in the Mega-Drive version and also the music!, which has some real bangers!! Little rabbit hole to dive into! Keep up the creativity

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Virtua racin deluxes replay music on 32x is iconic

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It is, I've got a copy. I had a Genesis copy back in the day. From the sound of it, even the Genesis version is better than the Saturn one.

[@EmperorMAR]

Wow I loved the ending skit "people who look like me" as a premise when you're the only one on the show, genius!

[@chaospoet]

I played Lunar on PS1 first then when I learned there was a Sega CD version that came out years before it I had to get it. I've played/own every version. Those two, the GBA version and the PSP version. I've played them all more than once and can say with certainty the Sega CD game is my favorite version. I like it better for all the reasons you gave. I even like little things like the character portraits I think are better. They come off as more charming, at least to me. And, lastly, I just love the opening theme song on Sega CD way more than the PS1 theme song. The PS1 theme is epic, and I love it, but the Sega CD theme gets me really pumped up to play it. It's the only RPG theme song of the 8-16 bit era I can think of that has a shredding guitar solo in it! That goes a long way for me. It comes down to preference, but that version just appeals to me more.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@chaospoet]

@@jbailey690 I don't know if I'd go that far as it introduced far more people to it and did well enough for Eternal Blue to be on the system unlike PSP. I mean it did get GBA and PSP remakes, so there was still interest. While we didn't get it over here there was Magic School Lunar for Sega Saturn. What killed it was Lunar: Dragon Song for DS. That one was an abomination against all things God and Man.

[@jbailey690]

@chaospoet it doesn't matter how far you would go, lol you are objectively wrong. Not getting Lunar 3 and getting the vastly interior, vastly underperforming PSX Remakes instead, especially with all of the goodies that came along with them instead of a quality game are what killed the franchise. Game Arts/Working Designs etc were all RIP'd over this awful decision/Remake situation, they didn't recoup nearly enough and HAD to keep remaking it because that's all there was a budget for. I've been there since the beginning of Lunar back in 1992, I would know.

[@cireza_]

Definitely agree for Lunar, and this also works for Eternal Blue.

[@jbailey690]

You are in the overwhelming majority of Lunar fans who all preferred the vastly superior Sega CD Versions. The PSX Remakes killed the franchise for crying out loud lol

[@MelRetro]

HECK YEAH!! New Game Sack!! ❤

[@SumeaBizarro]

I WAS NOT EXPECRING THIS. they should totally do a weekly, maybe every sunday upload or something

[@MelRetro]

@@SumeaBizarro silly 🙃

[@dauntae24]

I was itching for some sack.

[@BigJoker]

You're playing that Saturn racing game on the actual disc and not a Saroo, right? Cause Saroo has those audio issues all over.

[@captainbeefy917]

Aw yeah, new Game Sack!

[@lordbacon4972]

OMG, so many great memories flashed when you showed Mike Zeck's Punisher #1 which I remember buying at the comic book store and then reading it many times!!

[@Athesies]

No system can truly compete with the unmatched power of the 16 bit sega genesis combined with the the special features and the wonders of disk based technology provided by the sega cd!

[@kosmosyche]

Hell yeah! I love the smell of Blast Processing in the morning.

[@bradallen8909]

*Disc.

[@BrazenScull]

“Route 2 is usually better than rout 1” is such an understated gag. Love it.

[@willkelmanpenapena3551]

Ninja Gaiden is a good example. The nes version is better than the snes, because the 16 bit version lacks detail and parallax scroll in the background.

[@MSorge13]

Have you ever seen (or played) the Sega Master System version? It looks great!

[@chaospoet]

It's also better than the PC Engine/Turbografx version. The parallax scrolling hurts your eyes in that version and can make you nauseous.

[@willkelmanpenapena3551]

@@MSorge13 Beautiful sprite work

[@geraldmullen6618]

Sunday morning gamesack and coffee. Always a good time.

[@JaredHyder420]

Aah... been waiting for the ol' Sack....

[@jacobprayer8656]

He tea bagged you with his sack

[@JonRP]

You should have had the engine noise going after the Virtua Racing segment ended