Game Scoop! 595: PlayStation 5 Pre-order Disorder

[@mickael486]

Just want to say that I really really appreciate when they show video while they're talking about a game.

[@quentinbrown6065]

The b roll in this episode adds so much to the podcast. I can finally listen/watch with only one window open and don't have to search for myself to find these clips. Well done everyone!

[@michaelabayomi]

The PS5 preorder situation is a mess. I think I'll rather just wait and take my chances with picking one up in a store after the launch.

[@thaprototype]

Went disc version just for my movies. I'm 90% all digital for games.

[@xtattedangattedx3893]

It bummed me out the PS4 did not have a 4k Blu Ray player. Glad the PS5 will. I pretty much bought an Xbox One X just to play 4k Blu Rays

[@DarrylLaCroixRealEstate]

@lacroix But LaCroix is my name... so this is what it feels like, when doves cry.

[@rawleyfear5749]

So I listened to a couple of audio versions of Scoop and heard Daemon’s music at the end. Looked up on Spotify and there’s a ton of it, and some great stuff! Has anyone else checked this out?

[@ThePepperkingXY]

Good call! I listened to some of that music too, for the first time, after reading this. I really like Daemons songs 'Her Mind' and 'Good Morning California'. I also found Brian Altano from spotify. These dudes are multitalented!

[@rawleyfear5749]

ThePepperkingXY absolutely. Come on Human is great, too. I figured it had to be a cover, but I was unable to locate an original, unless Daemons version is the original. If so, bravo.

[@pkstarstorm8856]

I really don't need a PS5 at launch, the only game I want right now is Spriderman, and that is coming to PS4, which is fine with me.

[@bradcuster]

Still no luck on my part of coming even close to getting a PS5 pre-ordered. Makes me want to smack every single person selling them on eBay. I’ve always pre-ordered my consoles at the local GameStop and went in on the day we were supposed to be able to pre-order to find out that they were only allotted 10 units for my entire area which were gone the night before. This is ridiculous.

[@K_CP]

I got a hunch and went to Gamestop an hour and half after the show. I was the third person in line and was told I came at the perfect time.

[@bradcuster]

I foolishly believed the release date info. And, of course I never heard from Sony even after signing up for the chance to buy from them directly. This whole thing is frustrating and has me not even feeling like gaming now.

[@tyto3948]

Getting a PlayStation 4 was not this hard at all. PlayStations handling of information about generations and lying about pre order notifications is really beginning to give me old Sony vibes.

[@truegamer_007]

The Sony that was smug off the success of the PS2 vibes?

[@tyto3948]

TrueGamer007 that Sony

[@truegamer_007]

@@tyto3948 Maybe this will be another ps3 for them.

[@gurthang667]

The 10% difference in price for Aus is for GST (Goods and Services Tax), so it should be no surprise to anyone

[@ncwrrn]

10% more expensive because we have a 10% Tax. Basically same price.

[@jjdiner7862]

yep. same price here. the only place ive seen include tax is a few restuarants scattered about.

[@SimonMooreChannel]

You really should give the Souls series a try. I find those games only get mentioned for their difficulty while ignoring the wonderful unique adventure full of mistery and secrets it really is. It really feels like a great 3D Castlevania to me and Castlevanias are still much harder to me. Souls is just hard to understand and get into at first. Open your heart ❤️

[@jjdiner7862]

souls games are like the monster hunter series. if you can get into one, you'll find them all enjoyable. if however you skip a step there's no point continuing on. for the record i've tried exactly one souls game and one monster hunter, both were not my cup of tea. also if castlevania (which i am a fan of) adopts the souls like mentality i will be severly disappointed even if the graphics looked like the demon soul's remake.

[@1boshow]

The price is $399 + tax converted. Australian price is the same. %10 more expensive as we pay %10 tax included while you guys pay tax later.

[@stevespag9144]

Tina, I just rewatched the entire Harry Potter series and I think it was even more impactful now than ever. I was introduced to the wonderful world of magic at a young age like most others, but to watch them all as an adult and see them in a different perspective was really emotional, lol. So hyped for the Hogwarts game!

[@SotNist]

Demon's Souls Remake is top 5 launch games of all time. Up there with Soul Calibur on Dreamcast.

[@TheNightWolf-WildCraft]

Agreed

[@Anotherperson81]

Soul Calibre - one of the best fighting games ever. I had the launch, though my first was actually the SNES

[@squiddly007]

No. Not even close.

[@TheNightWolf-WildCraft]

@@squiddly007 Git gud loser

[@squiddly007]

@@TheNightWolf-WildCraft Soul Calibur, Halo, Zelda Twilight Princess, Tetris, Breath of the Wild, Super Mario World, Mario 64 - Some of us have been around for more than one console generation.

[@VAGGY8TH]

whoa, Justin has a tattoo?!

[@joemetz8588]

First console launch for me was the xbox one, i was stationed in japan so we were a little behind on getting the console into the px, but as much ire as it gets i love Ryse that was my jam 🎸

[@Ichsukatanuka]

GS to start off the weekend, great stuff. Scoop!

[@gamescoop]

Enjoy!

[@EnfieldsMikeP]

Gosh I was shouting that their read on Deathloop is so far from what the game is shaping up to be! Immersive sim (hitman, dishonored, prey, thief) style in a time loop where you have to kill all 8 targets but don’t have enough time. You have to do the loop over and over to eventually construct the “perfect run” where you get all 8 targets in the short timeframe. Another assassin (a real player if you choose) hunts and tries to stop you. Now we’re learning that the targets are intertwined and messing with one can affect the others.

[@doratar76]

I just clicked on the thumbs up for the dude in a robe moment. Legend.

[@AndresLionheart]

28:16 Sam is totally right on that. I always annoys me when people complain that it's more expensive just because the number is bigger in their currency. Doing the math it was only $50 more than the US. Most countries don't get it for such a little increase as 10%. Who usually get shafted are european countries when companies convert the US$60 into EUR$60, or even worse, £60 in the UK. Down here in Argentina I'm gonna get it at what equals to US$750, which is what I was expecting since customs tax is 50% (for comparison in our currency that is about $100000 with minimum wage getting a raise at the end of this month to $50000)

[@MrMOTUMan]

I went the disc version pre-order as I get every game physically where I can and I have a large collection of BD and 4KBD movies. I also think retailers don’t want to sell the half-assed digital version as they get no benefits going forward, which makes complete sense.

[@ThePepperkingXY]

I think anyone who buys the all digital PS5 is mad. You'll save a 100 bucks, but over time, you'll lose hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, because you can't lend games, buy (used) games, sell games, etc. You can't do any of that. And you can't watch movies either. ONLY those who for real NEVER buy physical games, or is into any of that other stuff that I just mentioned, should buy that version.

[@R17759]

Can’t watch movies?

[@marioq8395]

Whenever I see "console exclusive" i always assume its on PC too. If it is a real exclusive they usually make that distinction.

[@JustinR941]

Right, they would just say exclusive without qualifying it.

[@TheShroomeyOne]

What are we playing: Pinball machine, LOTR online in 2020, and mobile Scrabble. lolol I love you guys. This is not meant to be a mean comment

[@gamescoop]

You forgot Spelunky 2.

[@andyrushent251]

I think Justin is talking about The Sexy Brutale when discussing recent time looping games. What an excellent game it was!

[@mattgrundy27]

I still cant figure out why people are preordering?! What upcoming titles or selling points made you justify the decision to get one?

[@bri4498]

Ive bought consoles at launch. Not getting this one at launch. Ps4 pro still looking good. Spider man and horizon both on ps4. So im good for now

[@FastBowtie388]

FOMO... the most intense game made... it's a psychological mess

[@FastBowtie388]

@Feverroneous 112,000,000 PS4... they aren't leaving cyberpunk on the table for us :-) That console will wait until it price drops for this guy :-) Been burned spending money having them YOLD me me twice

[@mattgrundy27]

@Feverroneous What else do I need? Good games, new IPs, less remake/remasters, the ps4 to be fully pushed to its limits, a release that isnt on the heels of a recession..... way too early for next gen imo.

[@mattgrundy27]

@Christopher Calvert exactly. Always better to wait. Let them work out the kinks. The hardware will be better and the price point will be cheaper. Not to mention there may actually be something worth playing eventually. The games offered at launch are lackluster as always. After being burned over and over again from getting day 1 editions, I've learned my lesson. Wait. The longer, the better.

[@Lordbeanis]

Myself and two friends camped out in my buddies pickup in a target parking lot until they opened at like 7 an or something. We bought a GameCube each and between the 3 of us we bought all of the 8 or so launch games. We then went back to one of our houses hooked up 3 TVs in the living room and had like 10 people taking turns playing all day. We had finals for high school the next day.

[@WEIRDED_BEARDO]

11:26 Demon's Souls can certainly be scaled down to PS4. Turn down res, texture quality, lighting and shadows, particles. Done. Of course it won't look as good, but the other Souls games looked good on PS4, so why wouldn't this one?

[@Blballerboy]

Might as well play the remastered them 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

[@galacticmaui2]

I always get disc version, I have bad internet and enjoy popping in a disc. I’m not 5 years old anymore so my disc don’t scratch.

[@frede1k]

Can it play Dwarf Fortress?

[@marks8898]

I can't help but feel if xbox launched with a sort of expansion pack type game and a remake of an old game, it would get a ton of abuse. Game pass deserves a lot more plaudits than it gets. The future looks very bright for Sony.

[@squiddly007]

Not to mention that Sony is charging people who own Spiderman on PS4 for the upgrade. Something that XBOX is doing for free across the board. But nobody seems to be reporting it. Like you said if MS did it they would get abuse.

[@marks8898]

@@squiddly007 are they really? Absolutely astonishing. I just don't think xbox stands a chance and it's mind boggling.

[@petiemarx]

In South Africa the PS5 (disc) official price $730. Minimum wage is around $1.30/hour.

[@conortruscott8087]

Thanks for the happy birthday wishes guys!

[@Psychof1st]

Miles Morales and Ratchet Rift Apart are why I want a PS5 at launch. But, I didn't get a pre order because I believed Sony. Then I saw youtubers say they actually went up the same day as the event later. And they probably sold out. Because it was the day Sony said they would be available when I saw these videos. And so many figured it out long before me. Then some people said "get out there and try to secure a pre order before they sell out!" So, I was confused and too busy to check around until Saturday. Needless to say but, pre orders dried by then. Likely way sooner, even.

[@SilverEye91]

Something you guys missed to note about Final Fantasy 16: It's a console exclusive for PS5. That's pretty huge, the series is going back to that.

[@squiddly007]

So they say. They said the same about FF7 remake at first. I wouldnt trust Sony on anything after this week.

[@SilverEye91]

@@squiddly007 I don't know how much control Sony can realistically have over that sort of thing though. Paying for more than one year exclusivity has got to be really expensive. And besides, a one year exclusivity deal, at the start of a generation when there aren't many high profile games to begin with? In terms of sales an importance of a 1-year deal is almost as high as if it was an exclusive forever.

[@squiddly007]

@@SilverEye91 oh yeah the exclusivity deal is great for Sony. I dont expect this game until at least 2022 though. The comment I made was more about Sony pretending that they have exclusives by taking down ads and videos so people get fooled into thinking that is the only place they can play it. It's great marketing but people need to realize that Jim Ryan and Sony lie and especially after this week they should not take anything they say at face value.

[@TheNightWolf-WildCraft]

I'll Scoop this show into my eyeballs anytime

[@TheSilentTiger89]

I'll pre-order Xbox Series X and get a PS5 1 or 2 years down the line when there are actual exclusive games out for that system and perhaps a cheaper price for the console. Xbox will be the better console for everything other than exclusives.

[@gregswitala]

PS5 is cheaper in Canada if you calculate the exchange rate, I was actually surprised. Works out to roughly $30 cheaper for each one.

[@dougiedestructor1951]

Still waiting for Sam to use the best Aussie slang word: drongo. Loved this episode!

[@karmenh8844]

The depth of the story and all of the characters in the HP/wizarding world is what makes it for me. The movies are pretty good too....3,8,5,4,6,2,1,7.

[@ericscott7177]

Sounds like Sony is pulling a Nintendo by stating that it's scarce to increase demand

[@DaemonHatfield]

No need to Bonk this video!

[@Settledown77]

?

[@dougiedestructor1951]

Is that like an American version of having a squizz?

[@WEIRDED_BEARDO]

I'd bet Sony purposely released so many fewer digital versions because they are way under priced and they take a huge loss on them. So they basically released one console priced at $499 and the digital version is just a marketing illusion so they can say they offer a lower priced model.

[@HemphillAnimation]

The Wii was the only console I got at launch. All others were after the launch.

[@Icepick614]

I'd rather the madness of the PS5 pre-orders over the exact time being plundered by bots like with the RTX 3080 which bought literally every single graphics card and flipping them on ebay with pretty much no actual customers getting any chance at it.

[@shutuppabs323]

They already said what miles Morales is. Compared it to lost legacy

[@G_Rad_Ski]

The pre orders from Sony start in 30 mins if you got selected for the pre order email. I may try to get one just in case the Series X falls through, which I doubt it will.

[@bradcuster]

So Sam is why I can’t get a preorder. ::::shakes fist:::: But, seriously I was hoping to hear your input on the change to PlayStation plus with the collection and what do you think of that. Maybe you guys can cover that next week?

[@SotNist]

Pretty cool to see Disgaea's first fully polygonal game, but not sure about the chibi-ness of it.

[@mattshoemaker4105]

If you look at Sam's pinball machine on the right, someone named ASS has a high score. He must have great form.

[@kylerockwell9573]

Nintendo bent us over with the Mario collection such bs

[@vixhhay]

there less PS5 digital edition because retailers want to sell only the disc version obviously.

[@newstandard2445]

Playstation Scoop! I'm glad this Scoop Gem didn't launch last night!

[@aaronjones6798]

To me with GoW Ragnarok & Horizon Forbidden West coming 2021, it's sounds like it'd best to wait a year before buying a PS5. Prices are higher in Aus because of our wages, in addition to exchange rates. There was a board game called 'The Game of Life', a played it a lot as a kid - no idea if it's still available or if a virtual version was made

[@X82BIGBLUE82X]

Somebody give producer Red a rise!

[@vastneon]

no way that Ragnerok is not coming to PS4.

[@ecnerwal1234]

My First console at launch was a Wii, next was a xbox one, then a switch. I got a gamecube around launch... I think waited till Smash came out.

[@McdonaldeS1986]

Woke up with a feeling that ps5 on sale so I went down to GAME here in Belfast at 9 15 and there was a a queue! It was pretty big so I hopped in! Waited 2 hours and was lucky to get the disc version with Daemons souls 😁

[@Thomas-kp8mo]

Nice bro, I'm in the UK and managed to do it online on Argos the morning after. It sold out but then added some more and I was able to get it. Absolute madness.

[@McdonaldeS1986]

@@Thomas-kp8mo happy fuckin days lad! What game did you preorder with it?

[@RobbyGood1]

TLOU2 for me is undoubtedly a 10...one of the best games i've ever played. ❤

[@banzaisdead]

Comix Zone has a rat button

[@rickydeleon3695]

I just preorder a second ps5. I was going to resell it and make more money out of it but started feel like an ass for doing that. So now my either going to give my friend the preorder for his son or tell my brother if he wants to pay half and give it to his son for Xmas. I don’t know.,

[@petiemarx]

I also wasn't a Harry Potter fan, until I read the books. I watch the movies firts and after Ive read the books I couldnt believe how much better the books are. The movies doesnt do it justice.

[@gamescoop]

Yeah, I'm sure the books are great and I'll read them to my son one day.

[@petiemarx]

@@gamescoop I read them when I was 45. Good for children of all ages.😋

[@GrayWoIf]

Tina with that unpacking simulator

[@JollymixYT]

Amazon : Delays in consoles after launch no guarantee all ps5s will be shipped. Play asia: Every Asian country told to cancel their pre orders take back their money they won't get ps5s. Who's next..

[@squiddly007]

What do you think about Sony straight up lying about "we believe in generations" and then releasing Miles Morales, Sackboy, Horizon 2 on PS4 and possibly more? Also if you own Spiderman on PS4 you dont get the PS5 upgrade for free. You have to buy it again. 1st party games being $70. Bravo playstation? Are you serious? What you forget is you get your PS5 digital for $399 then a few games puts you close to $540. For $499 you have Series X which is a more powerful machine INCLUDES a disc drive + 1 month game pass giving you 100+ games. That is difference between the two. Straight up console price is not an indicator of value for the first time in a console generation.

[@draelmun6056]

Agreed. Last PS I bought during launch was PS3 because of the backwards compatibility. So sad that many of my digital titles I purchased on the PS3 weren't able to be played on the PS4, nor any disc compatibility, that I waited till last year to get a used Spiderman PS4 Pro and a bunch of cheap first party games. That's when I switched to Xbox easy choice for third party games and Gamepass Ultimate. Can you play your PS4 digital library on the PS5?

[@squiddly007]

@@draelmun6056 They havent talked about it but I think you can.

[@draelmun6056]

@@squiddly007 Just wish they started with the PS3 so I can play some Suikoden 2, cry.

[@AdelaideBen1]

Ragnarok IMO will be a GoW1.5 - and will be PS4 cross gen. Are people forgetting there was a pandemic on and the development of this isn’t just 3 years - it’s 3 years with half in Work-at-home conditions. This was clearly heavily dependent on previous development (and makes me think they broke up GoW into 1.5 games)

[@jaxztar]

Is 500 dollars a good price? Yes, it is, but in Mexico right now costs over 650 dollars.

[@xenopug4822]

Is it me or does Kristian look like a young version of Frank off Shameless?

[@Leady129]

I've never seen the William H Macy comparison myself, but you're not the first to point it out. Feel like i need to up my moustache game.

[@kevinfrancis9793]

I feel old compared to the scoop group. My first console buy at launch was the N64!! Was 17 and after buying. I phoned my dad to pick me up as didnt want to get on the bus with my new toy.

[@crepselect6192]

So not enough pre orders well not surprising when people were aloud to pre order more than 1 system leaving other people without even 1

[@nancydubin9328]

5 major stores and got nothing but chest pains.

[@nancydubin9328]

Best Buy notification came AFTER they were all sold out. What's aggravating is stores sold to anyone and left their regular customers in the dirt

[@Akrymir]

Digital is far more desired than physical. This is why they sold out before your links could get sells. Sony wants you on Digital more than physical as they make far more money long term.

[@damienmcdonald8313]

Sleepy Sam don't you ever learn, I always have the bomba.

[@jacksheets2426]

If they are releasing HZD: Forbidden West on the PS4 I really see no reason to buy a PS5 when I can play it on my PS4, especially in this economy. Also, I'm a big fan of Tina - she's a total cutie!

[@ScuzzyBeta]

I'm just glad JK Rowling doesn't get a cent from the HP game. Also I'm super hype for Disgaea 6! That's a scoop gem.

[@timothyhurley5920]

Who are you kidding! Of course she is making money off the game! She owns the IP. Do you think she just lets Harry Potter related products to be made for free?

[@Podcir]

If PlayStation put the info about pre-orders out and loud in that showcase and said that pre-orders start tomorrow at this and this time I can guarantee none of this mess would've happened and if someone pressed the button against that officially given time they would be fucked and whole blame would be on them. Now you not only have all consoles sold out constantly but also there have been more pre-orders than consoles (look at Amazon). Hilarious.

[@SENATORPAIN1]

i dont think god of war will be next yr i think they will reveal more next year.

[@otogigamer]

Someone should tell Sam you can play spiderman on your PS4

[@RichardLamaletie]

I think ps5 godfall will be released first as there are more cut scenes of it out so far.

[@LordMauel]

The chaos had its upsides tho. The bots are so gonna be ready for Xbox and nearly no real person will get one preordered. There were at least more real people to get their hands on PS5s.

[@face76]

FF15 was awful. It was dark. I don’t mind the action but I wanted to be able to control my whole team. We used get all types of characters with unique personalities, the were colorful looking, and it was just better. I don’t another character dressed in black in a group of characters who are all dressed in black with personalities of a piece of wood. That is what 16 looks like. The gameplay reminds me of the early demo they showed Noctis fighting by himself to show how combat is. I think the event for the ps5 was made for Wednesday as expected but I think the preorders date was next week. So I think they changed the event to remove the pre order date and just decided to tweet the preorder date. Sony going first means people will buy into the hype and buy a ps5. Then when the XSX/S preorders start there will be those that won’t buy one now. Even the IGN NGM hosts yesterday all said they were caught up in the hype of buying one. The one gentleman said he wasn’t looking to get one but once the hype took over he tried.

[@nitramartin]

Piss 5, Sony made getting a console difficult. I'm jumping overboard and swimming to an upfront system. Their loss.

[@yukmouth2009]

Probably got a better chance getting a nintendo lite then a ps5

[@PredatorCharlie]

In Canada the digital version is 500$ and disc is 630$, more then 100$ then digital. I am furious of the pre-order shitshow and now there saying they will be far less digital versions then disc to buy. I want digital!!!🎮

[@CastleSandwich]

More games should have a rat button. LOL

[@crowthebest]

It's nice to hear Daemon is not sure about buying the mario collection, I'm tired of nintendo getting away with their lazy emulations.

[@Damon_Dynamic1]

Hey Daemon u say Xbox has no games well bro that shit aint true at all. We got pleny of exclusives on the way and now we got Bethesda!!!

[@keo528528]

Besides the Lego Star Wars I don't think any of the Star Wars games are for kids. Teens and adults all of them.

[@faceofbearr]

I generally like to slowly play through Final Fantasy 1 while watching this show. Today, I had to set my controller down and walk away for a while.

[@philipb.kelley2609]

I for one, hope they never water down the dark souls games.

[@philipb.kelley2609]

God of War is the watered down dark souls

[@omgitsthefunny]

Justin be on some shit this episode.

[@Edd13Xx]

Buying a pc, tired of the bs. Almost bought a $900 bundle from gamesstop but glitched out at check out, i can just buy a pc.

[@Nicholas9Ryan]

Jc, what was included in the bundle?

[@mk-qm3qk]

How come you only touch on spider man miles Morales coming to PS4 .. yet you'll spend 20 minutes talking about cross gens are holding series X back 🤔

[@danieljames6503]

Lol spider man on ps5 in Australia is the same price as all the other games for ps5 i.e $100 to $150. Assassin's creed for ps4 is $80 for ps5 its $110 thanks sony

[@kevinmurphy3653]

€500 in Europe for both ps5 and series x. We are also getting screwed on price

[@leohd2040]

Swedish price is even higher as they add 25% tax so the two versions are basically equivalent to 499 and 599 it seems

[@timothyhurley5920]

The €80 games pricing is the biggest pisstake. It translates to about 94 US dollars.

[@gfbernhardt]

Here in Brazil, the disc version ps5 costs R$5,000, around US$930 :-Z

[@joshuatymchyn6693]

How is this Sony's fault? Is there a piece to this news puzzle that I'm missing? From my perspective Sony said "preorders tomorrow" and Walmart said "preorders now". It sounds like it's Walmart's fault and Sony is most likely mad at them.

[@kennethlee2910]

Love Tina. So cute.

[@TubeYouDSilvy]

It’s slightly sad (mean this genuinely) that you guys who are so knowledgeable and passionate about games generally have either so little interest or so little time to dig into and try to appreciate some of the best, most nuanced, and sophisticated games that truly highlight what is best about the medium: Monster Hunter and the Souls Genre. You were all fairly dismissive about some of the best games out there. Tina at least acknowledged that some people on IGN are passionate about MH.

[@BlackPlated]

Scoop!