Firearms Expert Reacts To Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3’s Guns PART 2

[@kirkmcgill]

Somewhere an H&K designer is raising a glass to Jonathan’s “you can fight me on that.”

[@gravelordkyle]

Imagine making a shooter game in 2023 and NOT hiring Jonathan or Ian from Forgotten Weapons to advise the weapon designers and animators.

[@cpt_nordbart]

Maybe invite Kentucky Ballistics for the proper use of thumbs. Or why Pistol powder in a rifle is a dumb idea.

[@elinelai1891]

if any devs will ever consult Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery in the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history - they better mention him in credits by his full "Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout hisory" title

[@DG_427]

They hired Ian from Forgotten Weapons as advisor for BFV. He actually showed them the barrel swap you get on MG42 (the one where you use a bullet casing to remove it).

[@IceNinja2007]

EA also brought on the guys from the Time Ghost Army to write the all the dossier and info cards for BF1, so they have gotten some things right.

[@90lancaster]

@@elinelai1891 Does all that even fit on his passport ?

[@SolarMechanic]

7:09 That sound tickled a part of my brain that's been dormant for years.

[@benhaver9737]

The presence of Japanese and Chinese weapons in the game has actually fueled rumors that the game’s plot initially had China allying with Russia in the story. According to the rumor, China would have taken advantage of the US and NATO being busy with Russia to try and invade its neighbors, thus the plot would occasionally cut to Japanese Special Forces Pushing back the PLA across Asia. Truly making the games plot feel like WW3 and not just a war in America and Europe. But said idea would have taken more time and Activision really wanted to maintain an annual release schedule as well as capitalize on MW2’s success. So the weapons are now the only remaining aspect of the scrapped idea. Like I said though these are just rumors and there’s really no evidence for it besides the presence of Asian made weapons.

[@AlizarinRed]

Here's hoping they go with this idea with the new games. As they are looking to expand the new MW games to be more continuous, expanding on that narrative would be worthwhile.

[@Eisenthorn4179]

That would be cool, tbh. Too bad they just focused on Europe in MW3.

[@929Finn]

Naw they wouldn't do this cuz they need to cater to the Mainland Government to sell to the Chinese market.

[@benhaver9737]

@@929Finn Nowadays that’s true, but keep in mind this was 2011. If memory serves me right, China straight up just didn’t allow foreign games or even consoles to be sold there at the time. Plus this game was just before BO2 where you actively fought against China for the majority of the campaign. So for this era specifically the idea isn’t all that crazy.

[@onii-chandaisuki5710]

That's an interesting theory and does make some sense, but didn't MW1 have an Israeli rifle and no mention of Israel?

[@zacoutortue009]

Jonathan always being so passionate about the HK slap will always bring a lot of joy to my heart

[@TheSundayShooter]

About that 6:14 the cyclic rate of a conventional AR-15 will rise with use as the gas port widens due to erosion and the "recoil spring" weakens. Expect an M16A4 north of 900 RPM after 5,000 rounds

[@AlexWithington]

To add to this on the ingame reason for the fast burst. It is because the massively increased the delay between bursts, which actually lowers its RPM to be more in line with its actual fire rate in a weird roundabout way

[@anglerfishtanking]

Would love to see Valkyria Chronicles covered, lots of WW2 Esque weapons with some funky designs thrown in.

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

He's gonna need his Emotional Support Sturmgewehr after seeing Imca's Vár

[@gunnargunnarsson5963]

@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey but hey, the man had seen worse, like Borderlands 3's collection of firearms, and Vanguard's bastardized arsenal, I always look at that thing like it's the gun equivalent of Cloud's sword from FFVII, eventhough in order to wield it, you have to be as strong as Mrs Trunchbull from Matilda.

[@elitebelt]

I've been hoping and praying every day for this recommendation to get through, and have even tried recommending it myself a few times.

[@julianstrommen7863]

I’d love to see Johnathan react to COD Ghosts, it has an interesting variety of guns, including an underwater rifle, and has a few gunfights in space

[@Quirksvil]

Oh please, I know Ghosts isn't that popular but it has some really cool weaponry that's rather rare in a lot of other shooters, it'd be so cool to hear background on them

[@patrikhjorth3291]

I believe one of the recent Starfield videos mentioned some interesting aspects of using firearms in space, particularly "vacuum welding". It would be interesting to hear more on that in relation to other games.

[@aslamc9288]

I loved Ghosts, partly due to the variety of weapons. Definitely would love to see a few videos on it!

[@ismarwinkelman5648]

Loved the M27 and Honey Badger in COD: Ghosts almost as much as the reveal trailer

[@BringMoisture]

3:53, love the rail discussion about the rail on a rail about the rail on the M4

[@Cats-TM]

1:18 It is like how they did the 1928 Thompson! A truly time-honoured tradition that always works.

[@Rossen42]

I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886

[@TheGreatTsiom]

I didn't start watching the video, came down here for this comment

[@Rossen42]

@@TheGreatTsiom You know that i will be here when a new Firearms video goes up

[@gohunt001-5]

One day.........

[@MisterWonka]

I'm sure it'll happen after computer game season (autumn) ends

[@KudoRedfox]

I think Phantom Forces is a much better pick than Order 1886

[@shmid9823]

Funny thing with the 249/minimi, is running and gunning is a common occurrence in battle drills. Especially for section attacks. I've personally had to run around with one of them, a C9, during attacks and drills, not the most ergonomic thing, but still portable enough to get the job done. One vivid memory I have is having to do it in 3 feet of snow, without snowshoes, and tripping face first into the snow, then having my MCpl scream at me. Good times. Going along with that, the C7 has a large latch extension for the charging handle, meant for use with big gloves in cold environments where it isn't feasible to grab onto it.

[@Max_Flashheart]

It is always a joy to watch Jonathan Ferguson in Firearms Expert Reacts videos

[@StonedPeter]

“And you can fight me on that.” 😂

[@PinkHusky433]

I remember filing a bug of Infinity Ward's issue database, stating that their naming was wrong for the MP5 in all variation they had. Sadly, they just dismissed the bug. Instead, they quipped about this bug in their database. The quote was "You don't need to be a gun nut to know what a MP5K is"... I wore it as a badge of honor, as it showed they didn't know much about what the MP5 family is.

[@NiniLumine]

The type 95 is actually modeled after type 97 with the magazine well for a ar15 pattern magazine

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

It is based on the airsoft versions that uses AR style mags, but the name is changed for no reason.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 real Type 97s use AR mags... do you mean it's based on a particular airsoft version of the 5.56 Type 97?

[@trevinchristopher8811]

Norinco produce type(qbz) 95 in 5.8x42 mm And type 97 as the export version uses 5.56x45 mm

[@bongo6_462]

was looking for this@@trevinchristopher8811

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

@@trevinchristopher8811 the few airsof versions that I have seen used an AR like mag, and given that they would not be able to legally buy a real type 97/95 they based it on the airsoft aeg.

[@Ultima450]

I can't believe they didn't bring up the FAD. That gun was such a weird and random addition to the AR class vs some of the guns they touch on every single episode. A missed opportunity!

[@Horgler]

Why would they bother highlighting guns that are unique to MW3 when they can just show the M4, M16 and MP5 for the millionth time? Not to mention the person playing didn't think to take off Sleight of Hand when recording footage.

[@band0lero]

They did bring it up in the first part. This video is a part 2.

[@KanshunGanshun]

Doing any or all of the Metal Gear Solid 1/2/3 guns would be neat with the recent ports of them. They all have some pretty iconic weapon choices

[@supergatorhator]

Oh wow, I didn't realize I needed this until now... I'm super interested in his take on the tranq gun from MGS3/4, which seems to be a modified ruger .22, but may actually be something else.

[@WheezyIsHere]

Talking about the mp5, they weren’t completely using up all of their ammo in a magazine so there was still one in the chamber while changing, henceforth no slap to chamber a new round

[@thickglutes4425]

It's recommended to always pull the bolt handle back for the MP5 by the manufacturer themselves because if you load a new mag with the bolt closed it might not feed the new round properly and it'll jam. That's why in most new shooting games with an MP5 they always do that even with rounds in the chamber.

[@jjtomecek1623]

In this MW3 and in MW2 (2009), the MP5 isn't slapped even on an empty mag. In those games it's old mag out, new mag in, charge the gun. The remaster of MW2 sort of fixes this by having you lock the bolt back on an empty mag, but as the other guy said, even on a partial reload you still need to lock the bolt back. The only time you wouldn't would be

[@jjtomecek1623]

KZbin on Android is a buggy mess and won't let me edit my own comment, but was gonna say you don't typically need to lock the bolt back if the new magazine isn't full.

[@quaternio]

I’ve not watched in several weeks. The current cameras and set are excellent. Keep it up.

[@NekoColaQ]

I played so much of this game back in the day. The FAD was the infamous terror used by the enemies in Spec-Ops late in a run. My wish for Part 3!

[@joshuaradick5679]

8:34 speaking from experience, surprise automatic fire is the worst kind of automatic fire, especially from a specifically semiautomatic gun.

[@Esau2507]

0:01 That's a happy man.

[@RED33Md]

I really *really* want to see Jonathan react to the experimental guns from Generation Zero!

[@AgencyNighthawk]

Not just the experimentals, all of them are pretty well rendered.

[@saschahofmann2421]

I was going to comment this, but then i saw your comment. (also a VERY underated game)

[@IQsveen]

​@@saschahofmann2421Underrated? The game is so full of bugs it's nearly unplayable

[@saschahofmann2421]

@@IQsveen my guy, i hit more bugs in Serious Sam Siberian Mayhem then in GZ.

[@IQsveen]

@@saschahofmann2421 ....I haven't played Serious Sam, so I don't know what that means

[@taylervanryn9367]

Thank God your back!!!! I was soooooo worried last week

[@td134]

That was perfect the next meme has to be Jonathan leaning forward toward you and saying "And you can fight me on that."

[@90lancaster]

Skorpions look great in art pieces with the drama of the case ejection flying upwards.

[@Slenderman12342]

I met Jonathan over the summer in this little country store and have to say he's a really good dude.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

15:46 that double point pull is actually modeled on the skorpion but it only happens if you have a scope mounted on it. (Could be wrong if its in MW3 or if it's when using an ACOG on it in COD 4)

[@JH-mq6pu]

Jonathan had great energy in this one

[@dan_loeb]

a lot of video games make the sight picture/irons ridiculous because you don't get the depth and perspective shift of stereo vision, that lets you see a bit around the irons on either side and focus targets beyond the sights. in vr you can go with regular iron sights and they work great.

[@vzerby]

Pushing as always for you guys to have Jonathan cover Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and to cover the M8 and MRI Caseless specifically as well. I have been posting for you to do this in every video a year back now.

[@Akula111]

I'm surprised Jonathan didn't mention the odd 20-round STANAG for the M4 that was only ever in this game, then again I suppose it's hard to see in the first-person view, but it's very blatant in campaign especially in that first cutscene where your CO helps you out of the overturned humvee

[@whizzlee73141]

Just when the world needed him the most, he came back. Welcome back Jonathan Ferguson.

[@mniakan754]

I thought showing ground branch to Jonathan could somehow soothe his pain of seeing so many cursed stuff over the past few years but then I remembered that there’s no slap on any of the hk guns in that game (the operator just flicks the charging handle with his thumb) and that might even upset him even more so I think showing him signalis could help more

[@TCRP117]

Another great video! Would love to see this series look at RoboCop: Rogue City's weapons. Sticking with Taeyon's games, it would be cool to take a look at Terminator: Resistance.

[@VersedFlame]

Second time saying it'd be pretty fun to see Jonathan lose his mind over the weapons from Black (Criterion Games, 2006).

[@AlexxxxxSaysHi]

Keep suggesting it bro!

[@zXPeterz14]

He did the m4 in a video

[@FFImedia]

Pleeeeaaaaase buy Jonathan a mic so we can have some gun asmr 15:45

[@fridaythedeerfox2982]

8:45 the silence of that slap was deafening

[@clumsygarage1578]

I don't think I like how well Jonathan's new mic is covering up all the mechanical noises of the guns. Also you should definitely show him receiver 2

[@noahhamilton9004]

I didn't hear the HK slap! 😫

[@GaleLapstella]

Love how I just noticed Johnathan is wearing a ghost shirt! great band. Also amazing content love seeing these videos.

[@therealspacecowboy]

jonathan is a cool dude

[@imjlu]

Went to go check and was surprised to see that you never did Black Ops 2. Maybe a good one to do next?

[@FootOfOrion]

The M4 in this game is modeled after the ARMS SIRS rail system which was popular with US Navy EOD at the time. Same with Modern Warfare 2 (2009).

[@SlamFM36]

I loved the metallic sound of the guns in MW3

[@Gatorade69]

Ehh, I don't like the sound of the guns in MW3.

[@J1mston]

War Thunder - "don't share us your military secrets." Jonathan Ferguson , the Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries - "Share us your military secrets!"

[@callsignapollo_]

Fun fact about the M4, its based off of an airsoft JG S-system m4, which is based off of the swan handguard. It uses a 'gooseneck' riser, hence the name, to secure the railed handguard, and the lower rail is clamped to the upper, making it technically free floated. Much like other video games of the time, the devs didnt have easy access to real firearms and had to use airsoft guns to make their models. There's a similar handguard called the RIS II thay i have used to put an m4 handguars on all sorts of things that shouldnt, purely because you can stick it on anything with a rail.

[@mastergecko1178]

The Chinese QBZ-95 doesn’t have a 3 round burst mode but the in game version only comes in 3 round burst, I think the devs just found a reference image and went: “huh, it’s a bullpup rifle with a big carry handle so it must be a 3 round burst rifle.”

[@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf]

I might be misremembering this, but I think they literally just reused the stats of the MW2 FAMAS on the new QBZ-95 model and animations

[@under-chonker]

It would be cool to see Jonathan react to the wacky guns of Warframe

[@extrasuga4532]

Would love to see Jonathan cover the guns from Killzone! If I remember correctly they all feel very inspired by real life guns, and I think not a lot of people has seen the games!

[@Celestix666]

the only true modern warfare series

[@drnapster]

"those have gone out of fashion as I have seen." Me looking at my rifle I installed that exact latch on a couple weeks ago... "Welp I guess I'm old"

[@projectgg6730]

Im an indie dev and I'm starting to get into animation and 3D modelling. And I must say a lot of the considerations i need to make seemingly make sense for real rifles. for example if I have a crazy looking gun with wacky reloading, then I need to make sure its still ergonomic so i don't block the players screen, sights still need to line up, using multiple guns with similar reloads saves time on animating and irl while i was in the military we learned about all the different weapon systems and it was clear that they all worked very similar to the M4 we were issued so that we could just pick it up and use it if we had to. Things i do not have to take into consideration are things like weight. I mean I want to make the gun look like it carries weight but that's not the same. I don't need to worry about reliability or accuracy. depending on the game, i don't need to consider how it functions. It's interesting to hear him talk about what he believes to be developer limitations. I know he's worked with devs in the past and probably has more experience than I do in that regard, but I'd say most of the time it isn't a limitation, it's something the devs didn't know about or its too niche to worry about adding or its so small that the time it takes to make isn't worth it. Or just simply the real world example they're using just doesn't fit their art style! But at the end of the day the thing you're holding in the game is just a mesh and has nothing to do with how it works in the game haha. Most games don't even have the bullets come out of the gun!

[@hanalune]

gosh i would really love to see Jonathan react to Warframe's guns as they're all kind of unique

[@juvenoiachild7675]

4:44 yeah i always wonder the purpose of that big yellow charging handle was. MW3 was the only game Ive seen it done.

[@Cmdr_Shepard1]

"And you can fight me on that." lol

[@ismarwinkelman5648]

The MK46 was such a beast! And also the first primary weapon I managed to obtain in Gold 😎

[@div_coyle9921]

Jonathan gets to go to work everyday and play with guns wearing a ghost tshirt and blazer combo, he's living the life

[@ChooseFreshAtSubway]

That L118A you pulled out was a beaut

[@55galsofslip73]

I still use the badger tactical charging handle. I love it despite not being the most practical.

[@armorers_wrench]

The tape+paracord mag pull thing is still better than the actual magpul brand mag pulls because it offers some flex when you're shooting from the prone or a bench or basically any situation where you might want to use the mag for a little bit of stability. The magpul ones are like a hard rubber and offer very little flex.

[@Gatorade69]

Cool fact. Thanks.

[@Cheung_Kody]

Appreciate the new mic but where gun manipulation sounds from John

[@dansummers2965]

Yeah, the noise suppression on this mic is a bit _too_ good. We used to get occasional background noise, now all the clicks and noises are gone.

[@verpine95]

it's pretty limited i suppose but i'd like to see him do Control

[@darth_spock6375]

Love the ghost shirt

[@BananaBrainsYYZ]

Same! It makes Jonathan that much cooler.

[@darman-cc4zk]

I doubt the Scorpion ejecting to the right was an oversight and more a gameplay decision, cause players wouldn’t use the scorpion if their vision is blocked when they shoot. Love the videos keep up the great work

[@Zack-pg4dk]

Thought the same thing, sometimes the guns have to be gamified to make worth using. If they didn't we'd probably never see the Skorpion or weird guns.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Question: on many of these weapons, you can hear a rattling noise from the last few shots before a magazine runs empty. Does that have any basis in reality, or is it just an audio cue to let the player know they're running out of ammo? I would guess it's the latter, based on what I know of firearms (and videogames), but I suppose there could be something out there that serves as inspiration for this mechanic.

[@JeedyJay]

Games started doing that some time ago - altering the sound of the report as you get towards the bottom of the magazine. The first game I noticed it in was Borderlands 3, but I don't play that many FPS games.

[@gunnargunnarsson5963]

Far Cry 3 was the first game I know that did that

[@happyhowey]

About the charging handle on the M4, issued Canadian C7s still have the raptor claw, and I assume it’s still the case for C7s and C8s.

[@AtlasVirtue]

Loving the Ghost shirt Jonathan!

[@zjsz4954]

What a bait and switch, lovely

[@davidcsimon]

Dave you monster, those chickens were non-combatants!

[@rednecksniper4715]

You hit it right the MW3 M4 uses the ARMS swan sleeve made for the M4

[@IncarnateSable]

Rocking the Ghost t-shirt, nice

[@sladehelicoptersgaming3148]

Played so many hours on those maps ! Good times 😊

[@fizikz9647]

The last gun they dont have hands on the foregrip because thats hip fire and in cod its always one handed, when you ads the player will hold foregrip although u wont see it as your sights are closer

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

6:56 It's the night-mode ironsight, it seems.

[@DWVoid0321]

A thing about the type 95: that is NOT a carrying handle, instead its a guard for the action beneath it. It would break if you use it as a handle too much

[@the6ofdiamonds]

The comment about the Luger depositing spent casings into your hair reminded of a time I fired a friend's Spanish Walther P38 (it has a mix of markings, some German some Spanish). I found a few casings in my hoodie's hood. Also, does the Royal Armouries have any of the modern Howa rifles?

[@homeboi9794]

2:16 That vid of the fighters in Iraq was crazy, straight up mad max.

[@AE1OU]

Please Jonathan, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.

[@danw420]

some of the modded dayz servers have a huge range of guns/ attachments so it may be interesting to get jonathan's perspective on them

[@rayhezbroham7297]

Always love the ghost shirts

[@BananaBrainsYYZ]

Same! Always a pleasure to see Jonathan rocking a Ghost shirt.

[@skullvitch2]

Was hoping Johnathan would have noticed the M4's magazine being modeled around a twenty bullet capacity, but it's thirty by default in game... ah well.

[@jacksonwood229]

I really want to see Jonathan fight someone about where the HK slap originated from. Make a good John Wick spin off

[@EvilXero359]

This may sound erroneous of me but any lmg weapons I call lawnmowers mainly because of their capabilities and purposes and mainly if an enemy soldier or squad were to be caught up in the operator's line of fire then it mows them down just like a lawnmower mowing a lawn

[@Rrgr5]

I'm curious about the type-95 5.8x42mm, it looks like a usual 7.62x39 with a smaller round an slightly larger neck, there isn't much data about it, interesting stuff is the weight of round, is heavier than the usual 5.45 and 5.56, is around 71 grains, more akin to a heavy 5.45 and 5.56, why? The answer I got from the internet is that they used is interchangeably with the marksman rifle and the LMG, at the beginning of the adoption they had different weights for each use, but they decided to standardize, is something like an infantry general purpose ammo, not dissimilar to the .280 and the 7.62x39 at the beginning.

[@zeni104]

God, seeing gameplay really makes me miss this game

[@velkatix1211]

When you get distracted by the ghost merch he is wearing ❤

[@nationalquill8354]

does the Royal Armories have an MP7? during the MK46 part, one of the players teammates dropped an MP7 and i remember hearing in a Demolition Ranch video that MP7' were quite rare?

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

quite rare yet all the guntubers have one, even full auto too seems legit hahaha

[@nationalquill8354]

@@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK almost like they have alot of money... (i know its 3 weeks late, i forgot about the reply)

[@jakekoehler1]

The guy that is single-handidly keeping your channel alive....

[@gunsmoke132]

Hearing him nonchalantly say that (my childhood) MW3 was 10-15 years ago was a little depressing.

[@nomadghost5655]

The Thompson does the whole slight nudge of the first switch and it goes to full auto I bought one like that. Two days later atf came a knocking. They just took me gun ofc I got a new one because that gun was expensive but it's not the same

[@Callsign_Kuru]

The HK Slap actually comes from the User-manual of the MP5 and is the recommended way to reload it, from what I heard doing it the "normal" way isn't good for the gun.

[@impala346]

Jonathan, ill take the UMP all day before the MP5. Looks so much better, handles great, and you have the .45. I think the choice is easy

[@djanis007]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Jonathan's MP5 an A4 variant because of the Navy style trigger group?

[@TrammellKotchen]

You should do cruelty squad next

[@latewizard301]

All i want for Christmas, is a review of either the STALKER games' weapons, or Operation Flashpoint/Arma Cold War Assault-Arma2's weapons 😂 Also if they do happen to make STALKER weapon reviews, make sure Jonathan hears the End Credit music, Firelake was such a good band, though i can't understand what they sing...

[@sirrisdesign4]

The MP5 picatinny hand guard is the Knight’s Armament RAS setup. And it’s a legit hand guard. I know. I have 5 MP5s and 2 of those hand guards.

[@BananaBrainsYYZ]

I love the Ghost shirt!

[@tuckersolander9003]

Would love to see breachers vr or into the radius

[@afiqamani_]

finally . been waiting for this .