Firearms Expert Reacts to Rust's Guns PART 2

[@hns_203]

What I do appreciate about Jonathan compared to other experts that review video game guns is that he understands where the line between realism and game design/game balancing goes. He immediately understood that the smoke trail on the grenade launcher is a game design thing to make the weapon easier to operate rather than just an incorrect design.

[@austinhuber3131]

Fun fact: they all do.

[@the_algo_rhythm]

"If you're going to put a skin on a gun, make it skulls." - Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK.

[@Hybris51129]

The Emperor approves.

[@spencerscott4878]

Praise the Omnissiah!@@Hybris51129

[@PatrickByrne-e5v]

ha my first thought too mate. not too many though. gotta stay classy with ya skull decal haha @@Hybris51129

[@AntonAdelson]

"That's too many skulls!" - Also Jonathan 😆

[@stensoft]

Are we the baddies?

[@decimusdecius7858]

"Now this is not a tool expert reacts." -Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Nails and Nailguns at the Royal Tool Museum in the UK.

[@DomDoesNerf]

Yes

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

teyey

[@FoxtrotFleet]

In Rust Alpha, there was a SIG Sauer P250. At some point, the current makeshift Semi-Auto Pistol replaced it, but players still even to this day refer to it as P250.

[@The_Keeper]

Probably was replaced due to a trademark/copyright issue. Its a common issue in games, if you make a gun look and work like its real-world counterpart, the gun-makers get all pissy about it unless you license its likeness.

[@thepurpleemu]

@@The_Keeper i never understood that lol its free marketing

[@ItzRokkiYT]

I honestly like the scrappy aesthetic of the Makeshift pistol, honestly wish someone could port something similar to Fallout 4 via mods lol

[@EllAntares]

@@thepurpleemu some manufacturers, like Colt or Magnum explicitly forbids and decline for use in games, considering it's an amoral anti-marketing.

[@MichaelJacksonFromSega]

​@@EllAntares the use of guns itself is an amoral anti-marketing. Exept for range use, but it would not exist without intention to produce guns to harm other people. So all that "amoral" thing from them is just a bs to cover up their greed for money.

[@Nakker42]

"Hot dogs will always be more distrubing" Once again Johnathon delivers the best lines

[@matts3425]

Rust devs couldn't tell a hot dog from a logically working firearm if they both fell in their laps. Point being the Eoka hotdog skin. 😅

[@TheWizardboy5]

@@matts3425 or they put it in because rust is an inherently insane and comedic title that fully recognizes its own game-ness

[@matts3425]

@@TheWizardboy5 oh, so you do understand comedy? 😂

[@RustyDroid]

Anton in shambles

[@IlIA8lTIll.]

@@matts3425jokes are usually funny or consist of a punch line if people don’t get ur joke it wasn’t a joke

[@michaelanderson6394]

GameSpot, I am politely asking you to have Jonathan take a look at the guns of the Valkyria Chronicles series. From upgrades to attachments to enemy weapons to the lances in general, he’d have a field day.

[@stoops187]

Yes

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

That was polite, my word 👌

[@carami6442]

Jonathan who?

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

@@carami6442 Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK

[@colinmasterson666]

I second this proposal.

[@TugaAvenger]

I would kindly suggest ArmA 3: SOG Prairie Fire. It's a unique take on the Vietnam War and features weapons rarely seen in any other game, I'm sure Jonathan would enjoy reviewing it. Especially a certain aussie modified full-auto FAL...

[@Tr4wnet]

UNSUNG > Prairie Fire

[@ThePoobird]

Yeah I'd like to see stuff on any of the Arma games. Just to give poor Jonathan a day off from the cursed guns

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

yey

[@mr.noir98]

the makeshift pistol is called p250 because there was in fact a p250 in the alpha version of the game, which they probably swapped for this model and forgot to rename it

[@repletereplete8002]

they didn't forget to rename it. It was always the semi-auto pistol. It just replaced the legacy P250 in the experimental branch that became the current game.

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

yeye

[@AE1OU]

Please Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese Type 17 mauser clone with her "bandit shooting" technique. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please Dave and Johnathan, please consider making a video for the MGS3.

[@whiteboi6969]

Im pretty sure they did

[@ongogablogian4315]

@@whiteboi6969 No they haven't

[@TheAlexagius]

As Jonathan said in the interview he did with Ian over at forgottern weapons he made it clear that its gamespot that choses the games, not him

[@CDCI3]

Yessir this'n

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

eyey

[@scalbyyy]

19:25 you can put fire out, this helps to put out molotov raids, fire bullets/arrows/ incendiary shotgun shells and you can extinguish campfires and furnaces

[@haruseyon]

I don't know if others are interested, but a reaction to the weapons of Command and Conquer Renegade would be nice. The game is finally on Steam along with other Command and Conquer games and it'd be nice to know how an expert sees the guns from that game

[@BSRaven]

I can already hear his brain breaking at the Personal Ion Cannon. +1 to this suggestion.

[@acomingextinction]

that's a great idea. that game had some nutty stuff.

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

yey

[@ZombieWilfred]

04:56 As someone who has fired nails from a nail gun, I can tell you that, while nails aren't exactly what I'd call "aerodynamic," they will not, in my experience, tumble while traveling through the air. The head of the nail creates drag at the rear, so they will fly straight(ish) with the point forward...

[@allanturmaine5496]

Did you Happy Gilmore someone?

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

That's interesting, thanks.

[@ZombieWilfred]

@@allanturmaine5496 Nah, just shot them at plywood when doing construction when I was young.

[@ZombieWilfred]

@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries You're welcome.

[@daltongarrett7117]

​@@ZombieWilfredso just participated in Happy Gilmore esque activity.

[@souljaboy.6668]

'lots of duct tape on that super soaker' - Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Waterguns and Water at the Royal Water Museum in the UK.

[@Aristokatti1]

I like how jonathan understands that these are video game guns and doesnt take it too seriously

[@firstpersonducky9333]

As someone who grew up in Indiana where rifle hunting was illegal or heavily restricted for many, many years, scoped shotguns are pretty common. The law used to restrict firearm seasons to very specific rifle cartridges and shotgun slugs.

[@Vanq17]

I love how much more casual talk there is in this episode!

[@MobiuSphere]

A couple comments on the nail gun: they do make nail guns with an onboard pneumatic reservoir. Also, one time when I was working at a paintball field, I actually chronoed my finish nailer. I don't remember the exact number, but it was well below what a paintball or airsoft gun would fire. Frankly, unless you were actually pressing it against someone, a nail gun would not be a threatening weapon except perhaps as a club

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

I've seen some (on YT of course) shoot nails a fair distance and embed in wood. Not 'Equalizer' power levels but still maybe lethal closer in.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

A 12 gauge with a scope is not an uncommon sight where i am. For the longest time rifle hunting was illegal, even now we have substantial caliber restrictions, and shotshells are also not allowed for deer season. Meaning if you wanted to take a deer here before restrictions were loosened somewhat it would be with a slug gun. You're also allowed a pistol, as long as the bullet is minimum .357" diameter, the case length was at least .850" long, the cartridge is straight walled, and the ammo used an expanding bullet. We're very specific, which is probably why you can still find a good amount of 40s&w guns here to go alongside your, sometimes scoped, slug gun.

[@StrangelyBrownNo1]

That’s interesting. So there was a time where you could conceivably take a deer with a pistol in .50AE but not a rifle in .30-06?

[@M50A1]

​@@StrangelyBrownNo1I guess but i imagine if you had desert eagle money, you'd just move somewhere else

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

yet

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@StrangelyBrownNo1 that is currently still the case, you can hunt with a rifle now, but last I checked the caliber restrictions were the same. It more or less just opened up to PCCs and lever guns that aren't 30-30...

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

​@@StrangelyBrownNo1yes, but shotgun restrictions are almost always a concern over range. So a 50AE would be deemed lethal enough, but a 30-06 has been deemed to have too much range (not for lack of power)

[@sp0kn85]

The water guns are mainly used to disable explosives. An or put out fire based cookers in game

[@IsM1ku]

dont forget the water pistol from MGSV, its actually good enough to warrant replacing your usual secondary which i did quite often, some of its uses are but not limited to, destroying electronic equipment silently (the only way in the game i believe), putting out fires to reduce enemy visiblity at night, beating one of the bosses (it takes time but does work), being a distraction tool, temporarily stunning enemies when hit in the head, etc.

[@thisaccountisntreal107]

I had a big book of guns as a kid had all sorts of weird things in it including the improvised "eoka pistol" it fascinated me for years so it was cool to see it in rust eventually

[@adrianfitzpatrick4638]

Dave didn't shoot the HMLMG directly up "for fun". It was quite obviously done to rile you up and get a reaction 🤣. Perfectly executed Dave, and Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum, had no idea 🎉🎉❤

[@Tjthemedic]

Towards the end of the Arctic Warfare segment, I sense a longer tangent on the topic of manufacturing issues for unrealistic weapon skins that got lost in the edit. Release the Ferguson Cut! :P The 'toy gun' reminds me a lot of the classic 'Counter Strike: For Kids' guns, lol.

[@mrshoofie]

19:30 it also has another function of putting out small fires 🔥 you can extinguish crates that are on fire from downed helis and you can turn off players camp fire lights and lanterns 🏮..

[@solidpat221]

The squirrel with a gun episode is gonna go insane

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

Can't wait :)

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

teyey

[@TeaGuyTom]

Noticed you missed the large planter boxes. That's the real devious weapon of Rust. Always a good watch. Cheers. ☕

[@au1317]

The water pistol and water gun also serve to put out fires pretty effectively. They can assist in very niche ways in the game. They're most commonly used after taking heli or Bradley as the boxes that drop from them will have fire around them, making them unable to open for a time after killing the vehicle

[@negatywetoo]

can yall please show Jonathan Warframe's guns, would love to see him react to those abbominations

[@BSRaven]

Dear god, that'd be hilarious. Especially with the weird super altfire modes on some of them. I want to see his reaction to the Soma turning from "Weird Space Bren Gun" to "why is it an automatic shotgun now?"

[@villepore7013]

​@@BSRavenTorid incarnon is also a bit of a mindfuck, and the whole Quanta and Cernos series would be interesting to see.

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

eyey

[@firstpersonducky9333]

Start off with the Lex and just descend into madness

[@villepore7013]

@@firstpersonducky9333 No, start off with the AK from Whispers in the wall.

[@EliseyzScripts]

After 2 years we got this amazing part 2!! Thank you guys so much for doing videos like this!

[@BrownCharlie799]

Hyped for part 2, letssssss goooooooo!

[@pshpsh5247]

CORAL 🤠

[@TheSundayShooter]

Press 16:25 for _C O R A L_

[@chillsurface4499]

There's C O R U H L and there's *cuhrr*

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

teye

[@alexw8617]

I'd love for Receiver 2 to be done at some point; it really is accurate to the point that I think Jonathan would be hard pressed for criticism. Also I've never heard him talk about the Hi-Point

[@fngrusty42]

Back in the early 70s my step dad got a bunch of fire arms out of S. Africa. Almost all of them were decorated with brass tacks. Some were really well done.

[@pvtpain66k]

"Oh, look at the top cover flap around..." I love Jonathan's reactions to random weird "guns".

[@Verminion777]

I'd love to see Jonathan react to Receiver 2, the attention to detail in that game is insane

[@thomaswalsh4552]

The water guns are useful if a wooden structure is on fire If someone is trying to burn through your wood door with a molotov, a water gun can make that far more difficult

[@michaelsouslin891]

The rounds from the grenade launcher actually come straight back down is awesome

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

The rust placement is based on whats called a cavity map or an AO map, when you texture a model you "bake" a set of maps which are based on the shape of your model. The rust distribution looks likes its based on an occlusion map, which essentially is a map of the magnitude of how how much ambient light can reach the surface. It's commonly used for this sort of effect.

[@RosDalton]

The arch tone of voice as he suggests zeroing the nail gun is fantastic.

[@FluffyArcheops]

If he saw the guns of warframe, I’m sure Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armouries in the uk, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history’s head would melt, especially given the many alt-fire modes

[@tylerlangham2760]

Gamepsot could you kindly get Johnathan to examine and share his opinions on the weapons of Killzone, im very curious to see his opinions on the ISA m82 and Helghast STA 52.

[@levferno483]

A worthy sequel to a great vid. Enjoyable stuff.

[@fernandogonzalez6759]

hope they make a 3rd part of Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK reacting to rust weapons, I want to see his opinion about the new high caliber revolver and the sks

[@ootdega]

More effort went into those water guns than every other gun combined and I am absolutely here for it

[@BACNandEGGS]

The water gun is actually very low-key good. If somebody is raiding you, you can put out their satchels or mollies with it…You can put a bean can on an igniter spray it out with the water and set a trap using the igniter. You can extinguish peoples furnaces from outside of their base through walls. It’s underrated.

[@enriquecolon1150]

Yo so when talking about how the glock cannot be automatic, i'm from Puerto Rico and some of the gangs there put a chip right underneath the backside of the charging handle that makes it go automtic, theres even videos about showing. I don't remeber which glock specifically so it may not work on every glock but I just thought it be interesting to put this here.

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

Yes, the "Glock switch" backplate - I mention this in the video. The gun in the game doesn't have one.

[@kanrakucheese]

Alterations to the sear will make it full auto only (and likely not very reliably), not capable of select fire.

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

yetet

[@neko_potato]

water guns can extinguish fires from molotovs or "turn off" satchel charges

[@revverb7459]

There's a strategy that involves throwing a tin can grenade with an exposed fuse, putting out the fuse with a water pistol, and then re-lighting it remotely to work as a sort of on-demand explosive that can be hidden in certain spots. That's the actual only practical use I've ever seen for the water guns.

[@iainrickwood2623]

I'd love for you guys to do a few episodes on the Deus Ex games, both the original and the newer prequel games!

[@Retrogamerprorust]

ive been waiting for this video for ages i have watched the first one over 5 times

[@luthfihar3211]

if i remember correctly the water guns also have utility to help with farming in the game

[@Mwuff7775]

To be fair about the improvised sights: they're as useless in game as they would be in real life.

[@MattCaliber]

I think some of my favorite kind of weapons in games like Rust is the makeshift weapons. Not only cause of the ingenuity that took to make them, but they make you question how they work which rakes your brain.

[@jeremiahsafford1389]

I'd love a 3rd Hunt: Showdown video to see Jonathan's anguish at the weapons skins.

[@PURPLECATDUDE7734]

I’m very curious about this “subset” of the collection

[@mystershow]

I've used to work as a roofer and 've tried to shoot with a nailgun. I did use one with a compressor so a bit more powerful, I could shoot a nail straight for a few meters before tumbling. I highly doubt it would cause a lot of damages pass the first few meters.

[@kanrakucheese]

75th week of asking for episode on Bullet Girls Phantasia. 6th week asking for Loadout on how games handle progression in character skill and finding new weapons.

[@tusk3260]

Water guns can be used to extinguish fire in rust is the fire from incendiary rockets and the fire on a satchel and so on.

[@loki3275]

It would be cool to see Jonathon react to command and conquer renegade weapons.

[@The_Post-It-Note]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@ExecutorArtaris]

aaaaand i'M back again to pester you guys to get Jonathan to talk about Deus Ex HR/MD weapons

[@Tinman3187]

In the US it would be legal in most places to make an eoka pistol if someone had the brass. Maybe you could get one of the guntuber channels to see how well such a pistol would work.

[@Friday-ey1qx]

I know this is a big ask but please react to the weapons of Evolve Stage 2. I know it's an old game but the tragic cult classic always has a special place in my heart.

[@CrimsonScar-1]

Could you please cover the guns from the Resistance and Killzone series of games? Cheers and great work 👍🏻

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

"If you're going to put a skin on a gun, make it skulls." - Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK. 6:44 you could also a match (pretty sure that is the word he’s looking for) No, I'm well aware of slowmatch :) Iron wire heated in a fire was an alternate medieval method to match and would work better with this thing, especially in a video game context. I’ve never heard of Iron wire being used, it would absolutely make sense though and would love some more context. I was thinking more matchlock with the video game cheat way of an eternal slow match that’s flame never moves.

[@kerrybarneyiii1202]

I never knew Rust had that Beretta! Ima have to go find me one of those, I love my Beretta!

[@epicprim]

Usually when rust skins are added to the game they are designed by the community, so don't blame the dev team.

[@nicholasblackley7591]

have Game Spot and Jonathan thought about looking into the original Rainbow six Vegas games to analyse? I remember when they first came out a massive selling point was the introduction of scanning real weapons and kit into the games, obviously graphics will be dated in comparison to today but would be interesting to see how successful they were on that front as one of the original arcade/simulation shooter hybrids

[@shawn6860]

In Destiny 2 and Warframe, they had the site of the shotguns to show where the spread would roughly land. If it was a slug it would be less accurate and just show the general area where the slug would land. So a site in games is a 50/50 deal with some uses

[@Anonymous-ss1kg]

Dave finally gets another chance to not only show his vault of skins, but to also annoy a good friend in the name of KZbin!

[@Lankythepyro]

I love the front sight post on the super soaker

[@shadowwolf5549]

They just added more guns to rust. Looks like a part 3 may be on the horizon.

[@MatthewRagone-fj8wu]

The Witter guns are useful. If someone molatovs your door while reading you, you can put out the fire

[@wesleymiles8756]

I would love to see Jonathan’s reaction to Infinite Warfare’s guns. There’s a lot of very strange and unique guns there that I would love to see him react to. (Double barrrel Vector, burst fire metal storm revolver, M14 energy rifle, etc.)

[@TheUnknownUsername]

British firearm expert is kinda funny/ironic but still something to be respected, just is.

[@devanjohnson737]

This guy is great

[@RadarFinsR]

The water gun actually has 2 nieche uses in rust, 1 you can actually put out bean can grenades with them, which is useful for setting up certain traps. But more improtantly, you can have a watergun fight with your friends and there's hit markers and it's oddly satisfying to just have the boys in the compound shooting waterguns at each other.

[@packersmresandvintage]

Ive finally seen the episode of war factories that has Jonathan ferguson in funny thing is it was just before i played this 😂

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

I'm in two episodes :)

[@packersmresandvintage]

@jonathanferguson1211 il have to find the other matey 👍🙂

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

teyey

[@pistolbobcat8988]

Can Johnathan go over some more guns from the metro series? I know there's one but there's still tons more guns to look at

[@alexrockey3730]

I just want to know what the weird looking rifle is behind you. What is with the pattern on it and the extreme bullpup design?

[@Tabnito]

I think thats the weapon he talks about in the helldivers 2 video. He talks about and shows it off when talking about the autocannon.

[@oskargrankall4551]

The water guns are useful to put out fires, like from insen rockets or mollys.

[@pokemaster5461]

The water guns can be used to put out fires from Incendiary weapons.

[@noodlery7034]

water guns can extinguish molotovs and flamethrowers when you are getting raided

[@generallowres4636]

You can put out fires with water in rust so the water guns do have actual applications within the game besides just fun

[@Tanknerd69420]

Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armories museum in the UK, pleaaase do vigor its got alot of guns that i think you would like

[@fishfingers4548]

Seeing how random comments get picked up by the team, might I suggest a Hidden and Dangerous 2 weapon vid @ some point. Old game, pretty good weapon selection considering the age.

[@papabadgers1555]

It’s funny how you pointed out some large flaws that I never noticed.

[@gruggerduggerhoose]

Beggin for the snake eater review pls

[@lumi5897]

Would be cool to see a star citizen gun review, given the complexity of the models and the amount of in game weapons

[@samsonfisher3487]

There was a pistol frame found somewhere In the US that was painted white and orange with nerf logos

[@gwoody4003]

Blair White has a whole aresenal of firearms she had painted to look like toy guns for some reason. She has a Barbie flamethrower and a Vector painted like a super-soaker.

[@colbunkmust]

"Found" in the US? You mean someone ceracoated it and posted a photo of it on a forum?

[@samsonfisher3487]

@@colbunkmust no it was confiscated by law enforcement alongside some type of Glock with a switch 😂

[@colbunkmust]

@@samsonfisher3487 you wouldn't happen to know the source?

[@tvorchtvorch9823]

teyey

[@Chizzlevision5]

Squirt guns also put out fires and bean can grenades that can damage players and structures

[@AllMightyBeerusPSN]

Would be sick to see a ghost of tabor, tons of good stuff to react to 🤘

[@Beanibirb]

Another day of asking Jonathan Ferguson, kesper of firearms and artillery in the Royal Armouries Museum, to do a video reviewing the weapons of the game Homefront: The Revolution.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Yep, the M14 wasnt used an a DMR because it was good, in fact it was rather bad, but because it was available, and due to beaurocracy it was quicker and easier to modify existing rifles rather than buy new, better rifles.

[@bradleydeans192]

I'd love to hear Johnathan's thoughts on Easy Red 2.

[@thadoubleapyt223]

How has this man not covered Homefront: the Revolution!?

[@derbydriver]

Perfect Dark!!!

[@Zambicus]

4:05 I'm willing to bet Jonathan has been schooled, dawg, he knows powder-actuated is the Cadillac of nailguns

[@Darthsiroftardis]

I would love to get another Hunt Showdown edition

[@Bonta2101]

yes, please, especially with the new weapons they put it.

[@KNURKonesur]

STALKER guns needs to happen some day!