Game Thinking Talk Show: Karl Kapp on Game-based Learning (2019)

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Karl Kapp is a passionate educator and creator of learning experiences. Recently, I got a chance to catchup with Karl and chat about the role of failure in learning - and the right way to think about gamification. Listen to this excerpt from our talk and find out how Karl approaches the realities of building learning systems.
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