Gaming's Worst Redesign

[@BeachTypeZaku]

As if the uproar about the sonic redesign in the first movie wasn't enough, now they want to try and neuter him even more with this... whatever it is. With the second attempt on Trump, the left is really scrambling for things to destroy at this point because they know that November is just around the corner. And I can hear the Jaws music playing.

[@HarmfulOpinions]

I think this is the best comment I have ever seen.

[@c0wb0yj0hn9]

lol

[@BeachTypeZaku]

@@HarmfulOpinions thanks! It's just what I was thinking at the time! But all of it is true!

[@matthias6933]

#Hedgehogs4Trump

[@mattmatt1302]

You know that video is from 5 years ago right

[@konignickerchen7265]

"Sega needs to appeal to a more mature audience" > redesigns him as a Peppa Pig extra

[@TheMenaceHimself2006]

I'm tired of this "YOU NEED TO APPEAL TO THE OLDER CROWD" shtick. No, they don't. Sonic has always been for kids, and the last time they tried some edgy "mature" shit was Shadow the Hedgehog (which, don't get me wrong, I like) and look how that was received by the fandom and the people actually buying the *damn* thing.

[@uhohspaghettios821]

i love it bc if he wanted to appeal to old fans then he would just make another classic game, not fucking rayman legends

[@Mechablizz]

​@TheMenaceHimself2006 Sonic Frontiers was barely for kids. The world was lonely, the music was mostly subdued, and the story was made of multiple moving parts that some had to be "in the know" to fully understand. Not to mention the final update's absolutely brutal difficulty spike.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

​@@TheMenaceHimself2006 OP didn't say *"older",* he said *"more mature".* The point is that die-hard _Sonic_ fans have a well established reputation of being immature and often deranged manchildren. If SEGA were to rework the series for a broader audience, the theory is that they could potentially kill that stigma.

[@IncarnationOfNeutrality]

This was exactly my thoughts process, he just made Sonic look both less interesting and more childlike simultaneously, literally defeating his own purpose

[@Stevie-J]

I am a professional expert in games design and I have an idea for a sonic redesign. Let's make him yellow, sort of like a pokemon but not entirely

[@AardvarkProductionsZach]

Yeah a yellow Pokémon! Something like Pikachu.. what would you call it.. Sonich- Pikanic? Hmmm

[@miraclechao]

Sounds like a commercial success. We should make merchandise for it. Perhaps medallions?

[@ringomandingo1015]

The yellow can symbolize how lightning-fast he is! This can even segway into potential lightning powers that Sonic might pick up!!

[@connorp3030]

Also let's make him slow

[@a_tree5793]

We should also do a Shadow redesign that has an unintentionally racist name we'll have to change after people point it out

[@oldoutlet6946]

"Let's fix Sonic by taking everything people like about Sonic and erasing it completely." This dude just wanted to make another whimsical 2D indie platformer like Ori and the blind forest. And to say kids no longer connect with Sonic is laughable. When I was a teacher a year ago, I taught a kid who made his own Sonic toys and costumes out of paper every day. Every. Day.

[@mrshmuga9]

This video is like, 5 years old, so it was before the movies and Sonic Frontiers gave the IP a shot in the arm. But I don’t think “background NPC” would really improve his appeal to kids if it was suffering before.

[@321cheeseman]

@@mrshmuga9 The video is actually 9 years old. It was uploaded in 2015, which is why the most recent game on his sales chart is Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. This is just a reupload. It's worth saying there's a massive elephant in the room on his citing flagging sales-the two most recent games that make up the vast majority of the downturn he's worried about were only available on the Wii U (and like, come on, _Sonic Boom)._ Sales more or less returned to normal the instant the series was no longer tied down by exclusivity deals, so it's a fix for a problem that didn't even really exist.

[@chipputer]

​@@321cheeseman It's the issue with people looking at data in a vacuum all the time. Lots of analyzing what is without looking at why.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Not even a whimsical 2D indie platformer. This is more like a cheap mobile bootleg of a whimsical 2D indie platformer.

[@radiokunio3738]

Sonic doesn't connect to the neurotypical child, only the autistic child. (I'm speaking from experience)

[@KeluMocy]

They should hire him to design characters for Concord 2.

[@terribleivan1475]

Scathing 😂

[@inkchariot6147]

His name is definitely in the credits of Dustborn.

[@DaMaster012]

YES! Redesign all of the characters in the corporate art style, given then even more garish and washed-out color pallets, make all of their body shapes even more identical, belt-sand off even more of their features, and change all of their names to be just their "pReFeRrEd" pronouns.

[@IncarnationOfNeutrality]

This should be top comment

[@goofyahhmans]

oh wait!

[@A.Clifton]

From 'gotta go fast' to 'gotta go eventually'

[@elusivemayfly7534]

“Gotta go to therapy”

[@theman13532]

gotta go at a reasonable speed

[@grapeguy765]

​@@theman13532si

[@cruxbucket]

Dude has the worst take on sonic. Its objectively the worst. He turned him into a corporate memphis sonic. That generic corpo artstyle google and many others use. Design is dying guys.

[@Mermiam]

The saddest/scariest thing is, he believes that it was an improvement. And somehow this is what a game design degree counts for.

[@PyroCatus]

He go to university for game design so of course he uses cali art style.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

The goal of Sonic shouldn't be to travel super fast through a huge maze, it should be about taking your time and solving puzzles using a ring economy. lol

[@unncommonsense]

Maybe better than a CalArts Sonic.

[@KatTheOneAndOnly]

@@Mermiam The worst part is he's making it a real game 💀

[@oRnch199]

This dude thought he was laying down some heat about game design. We need to stop letting non gamers create and change our games.

[@singithi8556]

This is what happens when Ubisoft abandons Rayman. Their fans start trying to morph other games into it.

[@indieWellie]

b-but he graduated from game-design college!

[@elusivemayfly7534]

It is strange-he doesn’t seem like someone who enjoys playing games. Apparently he did as a kid. Or maybe he likes mobile and pure puzzle games but doesn’t understand why people like platformers and games that require technical skill. I don’t want to judge; maybe he talked more about the game play mechanics somewhere else, but it seems like this was to make Sonic games easier for people who don’t play games.

[@oRnch199]

Heresy. The push for these people to water down games to appeal to non gamers, or mobile game players is repugnant.

[@CruelestChris]

He probably has one of those ones with "theory" in the name that are just identical communist nonsense with a different type of wrapping paper.

[@f1shze4lot]

What did he learn at uni? Man's got a spoof degree

[@lingricen8077]

hes a zoomer, he didnt learn anything, he demanded to be taught about pronouns

[@ashb2483]

He cheesed the degree

[@crimsonpotemkin]

Universities exist not to expand the mind, but entrench rigid beliefs into people who don't have flexible minds.

[@bulb9970]

Unis don't teach anything anymore

[@RawrX32009]

​@@lingricen8077Insane to blame everything wrong with the education system on "pronouns" Having any kind of pronouns literally isn't important whatsoever, just because you get addressed in a certain way by ur teacher doesn't change anything The issue is that game design degrees are fucking stupid and all of the best game designers never had one

[@Zetact_]

"How do we update this character designed to be sold off his brash personality and with heavy themes of individualism? Why, we make him a vulnerable blank canvas with a corpo art style!"

[@robertsides3626]

Chris Chan would full on involuntarily activate Avatar State and actually trigger the merge if that went live.

[@iller3]

...this is how we get to the creation of the Behelit-Medallions

[@robertsides3626]

@@iller3 ..that makes more sense than it should.

[@EyeofValor]

Fantastic lore knowledge.

[@Xelatheshep]

He would actually initiate the dimensional merge.

[@skull-chan7703]

I love the fact that this video was basically saying “appeal to the 30 year olds by fundamentally changing what they knew as sonic the hedgehog into something that isn’t Sonic”… Wanna sell to the 30 year olds? Chao Garden

[@vocalcalibration8033]

This. This right here. This is all anyone actually wants.

[@probablyjinxed]

i’m nowhere close to 30 and i’d be up for a chao garden dawg i love those little boogers

[@yellowcoat970]

If Sega made a Chao Garden again that game would sell like crack XD

[@discmach]

heres a focus on momentum based gameplay.... where we stall all player momentum to repeatedly open the backpack for power-ups.

[@DaMaster012]

"Momentum-based gameplay" Oh, like the original Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic 2, Sonic & Knuckles, and Sonic Mania, right? Yeah, SEGA (not "See-gah") beat you to the punch by, like, *33 years.*

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

He goes on for so long about how much he knows about games then he completely fumbles the bag not understanding why Sonic has big eyes, longer quills than ears, tan arms, and big red shoes. It's called movement identification and it's how you always know where Sonic is, what position he's oriented, and how fast he's going.

[@DaMaster012]

He said he studied game design, not that he got good grades.

[@Copter200]

​@@DaMaster012 ...Fair enough mate, fair enough XD

[@Ars-Nova258]

This feels like what The Damn Nostalgia Critic made fun of almost a decade back: “But the Chart Says-“ It’s going off of what people who don’t play games think people who do want. Sonic’s decline was because of what’s causing Phantasy Star’s decline (poetically another Sega property). Bad Decisions based on streamlining and appeasing non-players.

[@dantepizza6310]

Tbh, if they just remade the original 4 Phantasy Star games, the franchise would see more players. Online 2: New Genesis is just...to put it simply, i can't even boot it up because i have a Razer mouse.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Classic Phantasy Star was peak

[@AJPwny]

@@vocalcalibration8033 I just finished playing the original Phantasy Star and really loved it, I'm just getting into 2 now and I'm so excited 👍

[@vocalcalibration8033]

@@AJPwny Hell yeah brother!

[@deedoubs]

Did he not hear the dude screaming SEGA at the top of his lungs at the beginning of every Sonic game?

[@testedchutoy2459]

You think he has played a sonic game?

[@kdizzy07]

Australians are built different. Not in a good way. Just different

[@KillerMoth3663]

Literally says "SAAAAYYGUHHHHH"

[@techmark3665]

In Australia, the Master system sold a lot more than the mega drive and the master system versions of the sonic games don’t have the voice for the intro, only the music. If you are wondering why we pronounce the company’s name that way, it’s because the Australian master system commercials pronounced it seega.

[@MGX93dot]

@@techmark3665 americans still need to do some explaining. "seg-a"

[@err0rc0degames]

12:00 "Is he poisoned from going through games education" absolutely hits the nail on the head

[@NebulaSon]

As soon as scrolled through the comments and read this post I heard him start saying that.

[@signa8]

We need to coin the expression Degree Sickness, where sufferers try to pidgeon hole the world into everything someone learned at University. This guy paid $50k to learn not all popular games fit the mould of what game design says it should be. But his takeaway is that games need to change to fit the mould.

[@innocentsmith6091]

What I see is that he's piecemeal applying design principles he learned to Sonic. They aren't necessarily bad ideas individually in a vacuum, but he didn't start with any sort of vision for what his Better Sonic game should be.

[@signa8]

@@innocentsmith6091 people who are educated like him have a hard time understanding the world outside of their learned structures. Look at the UX designers that lost their minds at Elden Ring. I think the problem is much more foundational than what you're suggesting. I don't disagree with your diagnosis here, but it's not the whole story

[@BuggingonBeeroids]

"Sea-ga, I hope you are smart and listen to me, a professional ideas guy, Sonic needs to be a voiceless, pathetic looking bird, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk"

[@KillerMoth3663]

This guy insulted my intelligence by creating a 3 button platformer with pay to win mechanics and a corporate minimalist design for Sonic

[@scamlikely9964]

Forget pepper spray, Chris chan would dismember this guy.

[@SussyBaka23452]

He made Sonic into a lanky funko pop and acts like a once in a generation creative visionary.

[@arostwocents]

Imagine thinking funko pop is attractive design 😂

[@ladypriere]

"More animal" how, exactly? Real hedgehogs don't have legs like that? Everyone else here has already commented on the "corporate memphis" nature of the design, but that bit's throwing me "he's a blank canvas" THERE IT IS. Now I can project MYSELF onto Sonic. Why are they ALWAYS like this?? "more mature, and this isn't done through guns and action" oh, like Shadow is more cringe than YOUR proposal?? Good grief 🤣

[@mrshmuga9]

The funny thing about “more animal” is… he gave him a backpack. So he’s literally making him more human by acting more human, lol.

[@commanderknee3821]

I mean, shadow is pretty cringe already imo, so that's still pretty low

[@DaMaster012]

Why are they always like this? Because entire generations raised (mostly by women) to operate on reasoning based off of emotions instead of logic and empirical evidence has made the subjectivist, solipsistic, "feelz over realz" narcissistic children who can't emphasize with anything or anyone that they can't project themselves onto. That's also why they're_obsessed_ with "sEeInG mYsElF" in their idols; their ideal hero is just another tool they seek to use to worship themselves.

[@Copter200]

​@@commanderknee3821 I think you've awakened a horde somewhere...

[@commanderknee3821]

@@Copter200 "This is why we got GUNS!" - Nick L4D2

[@misplacedpoetry9687]

Absolutely do not know how on earth this is supposed to appeal to adults. His sonic design doesn't look sentient more like a stuffed animal and then just taking away any voices and acting just kinda makes it more appealing to little kids I feel like

[@ExtremeWreck]

This wouldn't even appeal to little kids. This can only appeal to mindless corporate execs at like, Nickelodeon.

[@John-mp4qc]

@@ExtremeWreck this looks like disney would make.

[@toekneemart5597]

this was released back shortly after rise of lyric so we were still partially in the sonic's stupid friends era of discourse around the character and with mania still a ways away from being announced it appears to me like a failure of an attempt to go after the classic audience that I can only assume would do worse than 4

[@Mermiam]

There's literal science on why sonic is one of the greatest designs of all time. How did this man think stripping it down to barely more than a stick figure was an improvement?! Please tell me this man is no longer in the gaming industry we have enough people in it killing what we love.

[@acrab6527]

Because he went to college, and college is always wrong. You can look at sonic for a half second and know everything you need to know. If you paid $120k and 4 years of your life to hear "Do what looks good" you wouldn't go to college. So they have to convince you of obviously wrong stuff, or else there is no "secret knowledge" they have but you don't, that you'd pay for. And when you leave and try and do it in real life, and it fails horribly, well you need to pay to take even more classes, because 4 years wasn't enough I guess.

[@Xelatheshep]

He claimed he studied game design. Something that schools do is to force students in a one path mentality and punish them if they try to solve a problem in a creative manner. Had a friend who attended one such course and he was scolded for making his own character, level design and graphic style because it was too complicated.

[@Super_magi_c]

⁠@@Xelatheshepif you think about it if the people who made pizza tower, lethal company, and pal would, went to game design school and actually used the knowledge they gained, the games would of NOT blown up

[@Xelatheshep]

@@Super_magi_c don't know about their educational background but it legitimately wouldn't surprise me if none of them went to game design school. Their games have that charm and play of someone who actually wants to make fun video games that most out of school graduates don't.

[@Super_magi_c]

@@Xelatheshep jokes on you I’m a jackass

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

This is absolutely hilarious. The whole purpose of Sonic is to get from the far left of the screen, to the far right of the screen, through a hazardous maze, as quickly as possible. The puzzle, is finding the fastest line. Sonic also already have momentum based movement, lol.

[@connorp3030]

I fucking love that sonic is so slow Hes running at the same speed as an out of shape 28 year old

[@matthias6933]

I love superficial degree titles that just describe a project manager. Seems like he wanted to make Sonic as much of a skinwalker as himself.

[@VueiyVisarelli]

"I hope you're very *intelligent* on how you approach your next Sonic game." Backhanded _insult_ aside, if they're intelligent, they'll do the _exact opposite_ of what he said. Instead of making a spindly little scared prey animal, make him a big, buff *CHAD* who just *PUNCHES* his way through everythin--oh, wait, that's Knuckles. Never mind, just *_keep Sonic EXACTLY the way he already is: WAY PAST COOL._*

[@an2qzavok]

Formal game dev education is absolutely poison, industry was putting out one banger and instant classic after another before teachers and professors got their hands in it.

[@rutgaurxi7314]

You've put that far better than I ever could've... These, fag hags need to take a collective running jump, in my humble opinion, it's not as if the modern entertainment sphere, nor the western world as a whole will miss them.

[@Aechelian]

The addage "If you can't do, teach." may well apply.

[@DaMaster012]

The Marxists realized they waited too long to corrupt video games, so now they're trying to speed run the indoctrination and propaganda

[@MothGuyz-]

It also reminds me of formal art education too. Sucks the soul out of people, and tells them that THIS is the only right way to do it, when it is NOT. See people raging over perfectly good art all the time, for what? Because it doesn’t follow their rules? Art is meant to BREAK rules, not follow them.

[@TheTGOAC]

This dude went from Sega to say gay

[@MSOGameShow]

"Top 10 Hottest female Sonic characters? We're not going into your weird porn stuff" I'm guessing he doesn't know it was a reference to Guptill89. XD

[@ShrapnelStars]

Sonic is chunky, has big eyes, and has white gloves because the whole point of his design was that he was highly expressive and animated. These design aspects also helped make his expressions and animations easily readable at a single glance. This guy's proposed design removes ALL of that. It's a muddy, soulless design that is difficult to read. He's supposed to be a bold, cheeky scamp of a character. He's not supposed to be "zomg relatable" with muh social anxiety. You took the words right out of my mouth with how this guy is mobile-poisoned. It's actually like he doesn't even own a Switch or have a Steam account or anything. This guy ONLY knows mobile games. He also hasn't played any of the history he invokes, because he doesn't seem to understand the Sonic 3 puzzle of exploring the level and finding the fire shield, carefully playing until you get to the first boss so you don't lose it, and whaling on the boss while being immune to it's fire attacks due to the shield, all without an inventory needed. I've never seen anyone miss the point of Sonic SO HARD.

[@amongdrip8073]

Not to mention The Art Motif he used was Rayman Origins/legends but completely butchered the Character Design aspect, how do you mess up already laid out aesthetic perfection?

[@toekneemart5597]

this was around a year before the switch's announcement

[@lemond2007]

Sonic has one of the greatest designs in history. It's as close as you can get to perfect. Even entertaining the thought of redesigning Sonic characters is blasphemy. This guy should be arrested or committed.

[@skiba789]

Chris Chan, that you?

[@lemond2007]

​@@skiba789 Just someone who recognizes objectively great aesthetics in character design.

[@varamies2039]

The only reason sonic is even alive still is because of how he looks.

[@PlaystationFreak719]

​@varamies2039 no it's because sega doesn't have anything else that can make as much money as sonic

[@mrblooper1994]

​@@PlaystationFreak719persona SMY Yakuza and total war are also Sega games and they're arguably more profitable than sonic, he's just way too recognizable.

[@SoverineSR]

This is a perfect example that having an education on something does not make you an expert, lol. If anything, combining it with a lack of experience restricts creativity. This is part of why I dislike the "They're still learning so go easy on judging their work" mentality, because it leaves people ignorant to how far they have to go.

[@mattmatt1302]

The guy who made that video is actually aware of how badly it was recieved and said it made him a less arrogant creator so at least he accepted his ideas were terrible

[@akdreamer6497]

He also admitted he never really played Sonic. 😂

[@francozabala7059]

​@@akdreamer6497What? Im sorry but never let this man touch the Sonic fandom again, hes not welcome.

[@johngonzalez2495]

​@@akdreamer6497lol really? Jesus, it figures. It's always tourists that ruin shit

[@TYP2K.]

@@akdreamer6497 Why am I not surprised? I swear its always the people who have never touched a sonic game who do this

[@ghostprojekt]

Reminder that we already had a "mature" take on the Sonic franchise, it was called "Shadow The Hedgehog" and the neutral ending involves the MC killing Dr. Eggman and commiting genocide

[@lingricen8077]

how is that mature? Lol you dullard

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

Sonic '06 as well, don't forget that masterpiece of storytelling.

[@exodus9001]

Yeah and that shit was fuckin EPIC especially the murder sonic and evil laugh route

[@dantepizza6310]

Based Shadow, and you know it.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Bro actually put out his own "here's why you should NEVER hire me for game design" demo reel. The original video is from 2015. I think he tried to get this reupload taken down, and failed. He put an Inception horn on his horrible redesign's debut. He attached his name and face to the video. It's the epitome of sheer arrogance and his mockery of very much well deserved, even nine years later.

[@John-mp4qc]

Feels like something LETS GAME IT OUT would legit make in a game making simulator.

[@TheNecroswanson]

Mr. President, he made Sonic's arms blue. Send in the Chris-chan.

[@smashbronikko]

That video is just "Let's just take everything that makes Sonic good and interesting and get rid of it"

[@destrudo2601]

It's funny until you remember modern game corps are full of guys like this, then you get why Sony would invest in something likr Concord...

[@Poodleinacan]

You know Sonic is too cool for someone, when that someone wants Sonic to be a soulless blank canvas

[@MeltedElf]

"Freshly 18 games industry" lol

[@KeluMocy]

😭😭😭

[@lapsemang9586]

"Ripe and very fertile"

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

His video starts with the music being so loud it drowns out his voice, it would have been better if it stayed that way.

[@KohaiJr]

Imagine making a 14 minute video just to say "I turned Sonic into Rayman". Also my nephews love Sonic and so do their friends, they're literally not even close to 18. 🤷‍♂

[@ExtremeWreck]

Rayman would kill this redesign.

[@gansterchompernoscopeblazit]

even Rayman has way more personality than this bland version of "sonic"

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@gansterchompernoscopeblazit Rayman has a clear personality that is portrayed well just by his design & animations. This Sonic redesign is more like a bad mobile ripoff of Rayman.

[@TheMenaceHimself2006]

15:00 "Turn Sonic into a twinky dogboy" Uhhh, the fans have already done that with some "EXE" called "Curse"... and lemme tell you, I wanted to tear my eyes out the moment I saw that shit 💀

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

What's funny is that those 30 yo would be the ones screeching the loudest if Sega decided to go with his ideas.

[@toekneemart5597]

they were. why do you think the video got taken down originally(imagine going straight from sonic boom to this and that puts you in their shoes at the time)

[@connoromalley4004]

The 2 least popular Sonic 1 levels were Marble Zone and Labyrinth Zone. It sounds like this guy wants to put Sonic in a lot more Marbles and Labyrinths because Braid is apparently all they talk about in game design class.

[@ThePharphis]

just reading those zone names makes me angry. If only the music wasn't so damn good

[@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-]

​@@ThePharphis I play Sonic 1 for the Sega Genesis alot and Marble Zone isn't that bad at all . Maybe it's just me being too good at the game .

[@ThePharphis]

@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- I just don't remember finding them very fun compared to other levels. But ya, familiarity and enough time will make it seem easy. I recently 100%'d the DKC trilogy and my god did it still feel challenging but 100x easier than when I was a kid.

[@koholos]

They also don't understand that Braid works BECAUSE it's unique. Braid (and Fez, if you can distance it from its execreble creator) require very strong auteurs helming them and that they be unique. They are singular experiences. Even games people try to put adjacent - Limbo, for example, don't really stand out anymore because by this point, too many 'slow moody platformers' exist.

[@DotDusk]

"We are not talking about your weird p*rn stuff" *1 minute later* "Sonic and Tails need to have a child." 🤨

[@anthonydelamare8612]

WTF?

[@PyroCatus]

The original video is deleted so that mean some sonic fan sent him a Sonichu medallion.

[@angrygnome4304]

Sonic needs to appeal to adults. Designs the most soft, unthreatning lame baby friendly Sonic ever.

[@Chillin-jg8vg]

Fr!

[@WreckItRolfe]

Sonic's actual problem is that the style of gameplay the original games were all about only really works in 2D. Sonic Mania, as well is his original 90s design, is pretty much as perfect as a Sonic game can be.

[@ThePharphis]

The only thing that comes close, and it still doesn't fit great, is a game like Sonic RoboBlast 2 which uses the Doom engine (I think) to make Sonic into a 3D game. Looks an plays great... well as great as a 3D sonic game can feel without getting confused and nauseous.

[@321cheeseman]

Sonic can absolutely have gameplay like the original 2D games in 3D, the issue is that Sonic Adventure 1 is the only time they've ever tried to pull that off, and they ultimately had to settle for a ton of compromises with that game because the technology and their familiarity with 3D wasn't there yet, and they had to horribly rush to get it out for the Dreamcast launch. Since then, Sonic Team has only ever built off those compromises as if they were themselves a solid foundation, and steadily become more incompetent and less aware of what Sonic even is.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Sonic Utopia was a fan game that was going to be a great 3D world based on the 2D formula. I'm not sure if ever got made though, cause that was like ten years ago now.

[@M4Dbrat]

Play Spark the Electric Jester 3

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

This is a ridiculous take. Sonic already nailed the move to 3D since Adventure 1. That game was pretty much already the perfect translation of Sonic's speed and movement in the same way SM64 was for Mario. There's been plenty of games since then that have worked in 3D. Are you like one of those Classic Sonic purists or something?

[@crimsonpotemkin]

The amount of times he emphasized making Sonic "vulnerable" or "look/appear vulnerable" is making me raise an eyebrow. He said it in the context of appealing to adults. What exactly does he mean by this? Is he actually Chrischan 2.0? Is this a kink?

[@ghhn4505]

Eehh, I don't think he meant it like that. Probably trying to appeal to people who like "cutesy" things and feel the instinct to protect those weaker/more "vulnerable" than them. I'm not saying it was a good idea but I don't think he had any malicious intent.

[@clanjebb2017]

@@ghhn4505 sounds to me like he just wants sonic to be like Ori and the blind forest.

[@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad]

It's literally *Rayman* but Sonic

[@theravenousrabbit3671]

Sonic looks like he's from a tech company HR-Email...

[@DarkerCry]

Why compare Mario to Sonic and redesign Sonic? Mario has barely changed since Super Mario 1?

[@memnob4262]

Technically? His shirt and overall colours were inverted before Super Mario Bros 3, but the general *"Flow and Core"* of his character was finalized then.

[@John-mp4qc]

@@memnob4262 basically Mickey Mouse with Walt Disney.

[@bulb9970]

This video is an absolute classic and it's great to see the reaction of newer people to it. Never let this atrocity die!

[@PapaRoboto]

It's crazy how redesigners always, without fail, present worse designs.

[@Dingus-69420]

Not always lol

[@AndrewChumKaser]

For the record, this video is actually more than like 6 years old. Good blood made it in like 2015.

[@metaknightjudgesyoursins4710]

“Sonic needs to be Lean and More Animal as well as more vulnerable.” That’s.. that’s not Sonic though. The whole point of Sonic is that he was a cocky smartass cool dude. His personality sells him apart from other mascots. If you remove that, it’s not Sonic anymore.

[@adamjanczewski6652]

The fuck is this?! This shows that sometimes you can and you just shouldn't.

[@theamazingjack3039]

Diary of a wimpy hedgehog.

[@RiscuitLancer]

Top ten hottest female sonic characters is a classic, it's so funny

[@AquariusScanner]

More like HOT GIRL HEAVEN

[@connoromalley4004]

That 90 degree ponytail makes her look like a Native American.

[@omnislash1221]

Soynic The Bughog by SEIGA

[@ThatGuy-ky2yf]

"Top 10 Hottest Sonic Characters" is a KZbin classic don't diss it.

[@lingricen8077]

Channeling your inner OneyG

[@Outlandish_Wolfboy]

I love how the game dev or whatever says sonic should change ina artistic way but Mario hardly never change at all

[@brigandboy1425]

This wasn't satire. This was an earnest attempt. That's the joke. I'm floored.

[@TecTitan]

In a world where we can make things for adults and kids won't ever see it -I'd see an argument for the tone of Sonic games actually matching the age of the people playing them. While we're here on Earth people should just accept that a game can be fun and for all audiences while still being engaging and well written.

[@orcwordlaugh1360]

No Australian who actually played early Sega pronounces it like that. The console would famously say the name when you turned it on.

[@drybred7215]

3:25 When I saw the thumbnail I thought that it was AI generated, I can’t believe someone actually made this Also, how are you gonna get rid of Sonic’s cockiness? That would be like turning Mario into a paraplegic

[@gagefisher4785]

This redesign of Sonic just looks like the guy threw the Tunic protagonist in a pasta extruder and colored him blue.

[@raccoononymous]

>[compares Sega to Nintendo] >[suggests Sonic needs to "grow up" with its original market demographic] Does he not realize that this is the exact opposite of something that Nintendo would ever do? Nintendo keeps many of it's franchises childish rather purposely, it keeps them constantly accessible to newer and younger demographics while the fans keep coming back regardless. Sonic actually has tried to be more mature, and the results may be at times hilarious but when it works it really works. Say what you want about Sonic but you can't say the franchise hasn't experimented.

[@acsound]

The adult fans of Nintendo franchises -- and Sonic as a franchise -- come back for two reasons: 1. The games are fun and engaging. 2. Those adult fans have KIDS OF THEIR OWN who they want to share the franchises with. The person in the video that OP's reacting to doesn't seem to realize -- in his eagerness to "redesign" Sonic -- that *adults* are the ones buying videogames for themselves and their kids (who will become more customers for SEGA). Note to Sega: disregard any ideas from anyone who can't even pronounce your company's name properly.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

This seems like a completely different character, concept, and genre of game that is somewhat inspired by Sonic.

[@RockR277]

"I love Sonic, but I've always felt like everything about it should be different."

[@drewbakka5265]

I refuse to beleive this was unironic

[@Dunebat]

This version of Sonic looks like a rejected Twitter mascot.

[@lingricen8077]

1. Never underestimate Gen-Zs ability to ruin something. 2. Never underestimate companies fear of not letting gen-z get their way

[@metamato2115]

I'm pretty sure this guy is a millennial. The original video came out in 2015, when zoomers would have been 18 at most.

[@ThatGuy-ky2yf]

​@@metamato2115Wow, an unearthed relic...

[@skull-chan7703]

Never underestimate the sheer autism of the Sonic fandom.

[@commanderknee3821]

Millenials* Can you stop blaming teenagers for everything?

[@lingricen8077]

@@commanderknee3821 LOL Zoomers literally blaming EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING XD XD XD XD Dang this was a chance for you zoomers to prove us wrong but all did you is not only justify it, but make yourselves look even worse. Lol, now you’re trying to blame milennials, insane, you zoomers are trash, you’ve achieved nothing, Gen-Alpha are already annihilating you…and to think that we were going to HELP Gen-Alpha out of spite against you zoomers, looks like we don’t need to xD

[@profanegunman7586]

Yoshi's Island already did the thing with the "inventory items" except you don't pay for them, you earn them in minigames. Most people don't even know about it. This wouldn't work for Sonic, he should be going fast not pulling things out of his ass.

[@PlaystationFreak719]

There's a reason this video was deleted

[@TheMenaceHimself2006]

I thought this was just a simple character fan re-design, but nah it's a whole ass GAME re-design... doesn't need to happen, Sonic has a perfectly fine game loop.

[@toanuva6178]

I had completely forgotten about this video until the wave of KZbinrs started covering it.

[@mercaius]

They want to add a menu that Sonic has to stop and interact with? This HAS to be parody, right?

[@loserinasuit7880]

This type of redesign would only work for a hyper stylized version of sonic. It would have to be something akin to the Kirby Yarn game. The sonic here holds very string like qualities and wouldnt be totally out of place in a game like that but that type of game is antithetical to sonic's spirit.

[@joniboi3699]

And even then, kirby still had a glimmer and shine to his eyes with his yarn model, whereas this guy just gave sonic the soulless, pure black eyes. And also Kirbys Epic Yarn has one of the best soundtracks of all time, literally each level is a different song and almost all of them are exceptional. This guy would have some corporate elevator music in his game. Sorry for glaze, but I just really love Epic Yarn

[@loserinasuit7880]

@joniboi3699 I'm not saying the art is like one to one. Just that if you took this as concept art it could be something like Epic Yarn. But Kirby has more leeway for creativity and so does Mario. Sonic has locked itself into speed and action so it can't branch out that far unless the game is not about sonic but someone else from the sonic world.

[@OhKayEl]

My biggest gripe with that video is that all of this was made in an attempt to "revitalize a struggling franchise", while completely ignoring why it was struggling at that time in the first place (Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric). It wasn't struggling because Sonic's core elements were "outdated" or anything like that, in fact they're the reason the franchise had endured for so long, instead of being thrown into the platformer mascot hell after just one failure alongside Banjo, Spyro and the others.

[@matthias6933]

btw he mentioned he fell in love the first time with the Master System Sonic, which was a way different and way slower game from the original MD/Genesis one

[@unncommonsense]

I have never seen a skinny hedgehog.

[@Aechelian]

That redesign is not Sonic the Hedgehog, that's Blue Speed Mouse.

[@ytnukesme1600]

>I graduated game design. here's you problem right there. tourist who knows nothing about the property and doesn't really understand it trying to subvert it. story of the entertainment industry in general.

[@arostwocents]

So true.

[@BleachDemon707]

Yea, sure ya did. 🙄

[@isaacfields7923]

The thing I find funny, is that if this "game redesigner" actually knew Sonic, he'd know that his idea to change Sonic to be more awkward, vulnerable, and resourceful with gadgets he carries around wit... He is describing Tails. He's seriously suggesting Sonic shouldn't be cool, cocky or have a personality and should be discount Tails. And that makes me worry about what he'd do to Tails and everyone else... Oh, who am I kidding. He's probably one of those people who complains about Sonic having too many stupid friends.

[@mrshmuga9]

It’s kind of a cute design out of context, but a terrible redesign. Doesn’t look like a protagonist character either, but an NPC. Also, if he copied any game, I’d say it more closely resembles Rayman.

[@jamesmasker1807]

Sonic has a very good character design you can recognise him in silhouette.

[@JarJarBinks4ever]

Sonic The Hedgehog. One of the greatest and most attractive characters ever thought up.

[@TheGahta]

Sounds like someone is desperate to slap some recognizable brand onto his bland pet project 😂 No one needs rebranding, its always to milk money

[@DeePBurnouT]

Sonic reminds me of Felix the cat and Micky mouse. Like classic Goku design or dragon quest, Toriyama!

[@crestofhonor2349]

That’s because he was designed like older rubber hose characters in mind. It’s why he has those white gloves

[@Davo255_]

That's what he was inspired by I recommend checking Naoto Oshima's Sonic 1 concept arts, he looks a lot like oldschool cartoon character

[@Skullgod12]

This redesign reminds me more of rewrite sonic exe rather than an actual sonic

[@malkazzz]

Why are they always trying to change the look of Sonic ?

[@Roofhack]

Agree disgusting way to say "Sega", and I am Aussie. Honestly don't even think most Aussies say it like that, the fact that he claims he is a fan and says it like that is odd since you'd think he'd know. Since Sega games literally begin with them saying their name.

[@TheTGOAC]

That's what I thought. I haven't played many Sega games and even I know the "SEEEEGAAAA" at the start of most of their games.

[@Roofhack]

@@TheTGOAC Yeah, without context would be SE-GA but they made it pretty obvious its Say-Ga/Guh

[@sannerstv]

Why would he think giving Sonic the empty eyes of a Funko Pop be a good idea?

[@mikeroe7943]

Make that game you describe; you chasing nu-sonic with a hammer in your yard. Call it "Eggman's Revenge"

[@Ramash440]

That ain't Sonic the Hedgehog, that's Demonic the Hedgeblob. Keep it away from me.