Gaming with a FAT GPU on the Google Meet Video Conference Computer

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PCIe x16 to Oculink adapter: www.aliexpress.us/item/325680...
Alternate PCIe x16 to Oculink adapter w/ NVMe adapter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C...
Funny enough, I had to use the short NVMe adapter from Amazon in conjunction with the PCIe x16 adapter board from Aliexpress to get it to work. The PCIe x16 adapter board from Amazon DIDN'T work for me, so it wasn't shown in the video.
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[@AlexOop2013]

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[@LampHatScott]

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[@rousseauramirez]

I just stumbled across this channel again and bro hooks up a GPU to a Google Meet conference computer. Like what in the name of

[@cheesburger2875]

Yes

[@FoodFor1000]

its in the name of gaming

[@bsahin7110]

gaming

[@lpphoenix131]

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[@zye.]

​@@beedslolkuntus2070sometimes if you listen carefully, you can hear my genius

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[@matchc0635]

The thought of not installing the old SSD on the other side is now permanently burnt into my brain, truly one of the gaming move I've ever seen.

[@Fidgetthebatpony]

Same

[@LucienneGainsborough]

Had the same thought at first. But looking at the thermal pads for the TPU suggest that the SSD+adapter will be too thick for the back side

[@ADewiM]

I watched this on my Pixel 6 (not the worst, but not the best speakers I've had on a phone) and I didn't really notice all the audio problems you were apologising for.

[@BringusStudios]

Sometimes I forget that I'm the only one listening extremely closely to my own voice all day long while editing lmao

[@connivingkhajiit]

you wont notice on a phone. I heard everything through my headphones

[@anon-fq3ud]

Binge watching the entire channel on decent headphones right now, I literally forgot about the "audio issues" until I saw this comment. Bro makes amazing content and speaks clearly, that's enough to make it enjoyable.

[@gizmowizard352]

@@anon-fq3ud And does stupid things too lmao

[@xXXEnderCraftXXx]

I didn't notice it either on my Note 20...​@@BringusStudios

[@kingtut469]

In your GTA V testing with the 6950xt, the CPU is the limiting factor on why there is no FPS change when you changed the video settings. The CPU can only handle so much in the game, thus limiting the FPS from going as high as the GPU can go. That's why you see not 100% usage on the GPU on both normal and ultra settings. The CPU simply cannot process the logistics needed for a higher FPS. It is "bottle-necking" the GPU. Here's a metaphor that might help. It's like putting a lamborghini in LA traffic. The flow of traffic being the CPU and the lambo being the GPU. The lambo can only go as fast as the flow of traffic allows it, so the CPU is limiting the GPU from it's full potential FPS.

[@jackneely7772]

🤓

[@retro_gamer564]

​@@jackneely7772 😢 sorry your slow

[@UshankaMaster]

so I guess CPU can't handle more FPS, no matter the picture quality?

[@BringusStudios]

I really wasn't sure if it was the CPU or the PCIe 3.0 x2 bottlenecking the setup but that makes sense as to why it would be the CPU

[@coolguy-xd1bg]

wouldn't the most straightforward metaphor be "it's like having a narrow bottle neck on a bottle."

[@janluofficial]

The bottleneck is actually the CPU, the GPU probably got a few more beans. That said, the PCI-E 2x link definitely contributed to the bottleneck, since it had less bandwidth to communicate with the GPU.

[@yourmomsbf878]

indeed, that's why the games are running very similar as well. To answer his question at the end of the video. But the CPU is mostly the reason.

[@Splarkszter]

A good way to measure is how much power is the dGPU drawing

[@ChrisD__]

I'd even go as far as to say it's not the CPU but the 2x connection making it act like a CPU bottleneck.

[@Splarkszter]

@@ChrisD__ Actually the PCIe x2 limits how many CPU instructions can get to the GPU, besides competing with texture data.

[@MoominBoomin]

it was drawing 80 watts in GTA V lol, crazy fast gpu

[@Chowder908]

Bringus: "Alright Google meet are you ready for another video?" Google Meet: "I'm tired boss"

[@Thaereos12]

22:00 Google weren't lying about that 400 fps thing.

[@DRMAOMMAIZEINNG]

he took it off tho lol

[@GyroCannon]

When I heard "We're going to minimize the jank", I didn't expect the same amount of hardware maiming (rip m.2 key adapter that got physically bent in half)

[@BringusStudios]

Not all goals are met lmao

[@arctic6405]

@@BringusStudios lol why didnt you leave the wifi card where it was and install the m.2 on the back? (if you didnt i dont know yet im still watching)

[@swagatrout3075]

thats the first thing that came to my mind the moment I saw the new adaptor

[@SweepiNetworks]

Rule of thumb: PCIe 1.0 x1 is 250 MB/s. you multiply by the number of lanes (here: x2: 500 MB/s) and double for each each Generation (so: PCIe 1.0 x2 : 500MB/s -> PCIe 2.0 x2 :1000MB/s -> PCIe 3.0 x2 : 2000MB/s). A PCIe 4.0 x16 can handle 32000MB/s, but most GPUs use 3.0x16 or 4.0x8 (which both are 16000MB/s). During most gameplay, this does not matter to much. The instructions sent by the GPU (geometrie, ...) is not that large. But rember at 100fps you have a frame ever 10 ms. If the GPU needs to load 160MB of new textures before starting the rendering of the next frame(takes 10ms at 16000MB/s) , the framerate drops to 50 fps (10ms + 10ms -> 20ms frametime). An your machine, it would take 80ms to load 160MB over PCIe 3.0x2, causing a sudden fps drop to 11 fps! (80ms + 10 ms = 90 ms frametime)

[@Ilikedagames-rf2fx]

@@zxqhyr Clown

[@sehabel]

Everything you said is right, but the performance also depends on how well the game is optimised for that scenario. If you know that you have a lot of video memory and little pcie bandwidth, you could optimise your performance by loading everything into memory during loading screens. Most games don't do that (GTA V for example is well known for missing textures with slow systems), but games like Doom and CS2 run really well because the textures are already there before they are needed. They were programmed and designed with really good frametimes in mind.

[@SolidSonicTH]

That was an 8th gen Intel CPU so I think that's PCIe gen 3.

[@zxqhyr]

@@Ilikedagames-rf2fx real

[@ranjitmandal1612]

🤯

[@spaghetto181]

the fact that this sad baby 1.8ghz of a dual core chip is able to handle all of these games do blow my mind

[@Wheagg]

PS4 and Xbox One CPUs were also dogwater so everyone's been optimizing for the worst CPUs since 2013

[@Dargin]

@@Wheagg Ps4 was pretty good but Xbox one had a sad bulldozer AMD that shat the bed most of the time I kinda feel bad for em lmao

[@Henriette187]

It’s a quad core with hyper threading.

[@amdintelxsniperx]

@@Dargin ps4 and xbox used the exact same cpu . just different vram config and ps4 had a 200 mhz clock speed advantage

[@thatprettyparrot]

It's a quad-core with hyperthreading and Intel Turbo Boost to 4.0GHz. That's why it can handle those games 😂

[@gamecuber6]

i watched a video about oculink made by an italian youtube channel like 2 days ago and literally 2 days later bringus makes a video about it lol

[@AkerCW]

yes

[@Addsomehappy]

Yeah and also Linus mentioned it for the first time on my memory in a recent video

[@gamecuber6]

the italian channel who i said made a video about OcuLink is called "MVVBlog" btw

[@tom2089rr]

Weirdest bottleneck

[@O4bit_]

This is some crazy ass gaming computer

[@Neonyoom]

this sure is uhh.. something

[@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments]

​@@NeonyoomYou've never seen a gaming PC before ?

[@iXx4L]

Honestly runs better than mine

[@IsTheOrderASapling]

same man my goofy ass i7 7700 and 1050ti can't even run gta v at 60fps 1080p

[@FAB1150]

21:26 you're CPU bottlenecked (or PCIe link speed bottlenecked)! It's like you're a cook in a restaurant, and have all the ingredients and tools ready. There's only one waiter on shift, and it gets to you every half an hour. One evening, all orders are glasses of water! You get a glass, fill it, give it to the waiter... And wait 29 minutes for the next order of water. You deliver exactly two glasses of water an hour! Another evening, you get orders for nice dishes you can make in exactly 30 minutes. You're working all the time, but you can keep up with the waiter: you deliver 2 dishes an hour. Same as before, but now tastier :) At lower settings the GPU instantly delivers a frame and then just waits for new information to get to it. At higher settings, the PCIe bus still only delivers information for 80FPS, but now the GPU is working all the time and making nicer frames. Higher settings don't make the load on the PCIe link worse, as the textures and heavy stuff is already stored on the GPU. The CPU just has to tell the GPU how to piece the stuff it has in memory together:) If it's a CPU bottleneck it's the same thing, but instead of information being slow to be delivered it's the CPU that struggles to calculate what to tell the GPU to do. We now have 20 waiters in the restaurant, but only one customer every half an hour! It's more likely to be the CPU than the bus, as the PCI link speed only really matters when loading new textures for new areas, you'd see bad dips sometimes and normal gameplay most of the time.

[@SumRndmPenguin]

12:20 Bro's trying to fit a bus in a bike lane right now 💀

[@ParticularSky]

Such accesible design. This might be a first for a google device.

[@Zaaf2003]

Good to see that bingus studios also watches my favorite jankmaster.

[@randomtrainboy]

dawid is the king of jank

[@dfgdfg_]

Even sexier in the audio equivalent of 240p. Any audio engineers think the buzzing might be a ground loop? Doom coders know who to code a graphics pipeline 😎

[@dsnineteen]

I just need to point out how genuinely welcome and pleasant the Half-Life HEV suit 'use' button spam was. True artistry.

[@sopvwastaken]

We are gaming. Gamers

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Facts

[@When_da]

Yes

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[@soldier-gaming321]

very gaming

[@The-subtle-ostrich]

WEVE FINALLY ACHIEVED GAMING.

[@desk-kun]

As someone who daily drives a headless laptop that has two desktop CPU coolers to cool the CPU and GPU, I can’t believe someone has created something more jank

[@Rocky712_]

Sounds like a Linux user

[@desk-kun]

@@Rocky712_ i have a ubuntu partition on my boot drive, however i daily drive windows lmao.

[@MintJoker9578]

Well, i wish i could find a good deal for a headless gaming laptop, seems fun

[@lelkasa361]

how u connect fan to laptop and not crush the chips ? + power the fans!

[@desk-kun]

@@lelkasa361 i use the stock heatsink, and attach the tower coolers to that, and for a fan, its a table fan on my desk

[@domenicdaluz1677]

Google meet box lead me to this channel, it was chilling in my fyp for a week untill I finally clicked, and boy did it not disappoint. I've since binged all the vids. So thanks Lenovo and Google

[@michelvanbriemen3459]

The settings with the RX6950 XT don't make that big of a difference because the PCI-E bottleneck is in the amount of drawcalls the CPU can make to the GPU. A drawcall is the CPU basically telling the GPU "go do this", and when you turn the settings up the CPU doesn't necessarily make more drawcalls. It changes what's being asked: "go do that".

[@SteamPlayLEET]

I think low core clock also attributes to bottleneck)

[@WeirdTreeThing]

Common Chrultrabook W

[@AwesomeGames56]

I’d like to think that AI chip would probably use more PCIe lanes, did you try it?

[@AminOnPC]

Add a server fan to the chassis letting the cpu cool off like no tomorrow haha

[@stefanmisch5272]

Hardware Unboxed and Gamer's Nexus tested the relevance of the PCI lanes and their result was that cards with low VRAM needed PCIe bandwidth the most. i.e. 8 and 16Gig cards had no problem running at fewer lanes. But the lowend cards really needed it.

[@nikkiofthevalley]

Makes sense. A lot of the time at runtime isn't spent sending big bricks of data over, it's commanding the GPU to do stuff and sending small bits of data. It's loading times that would be affected by bandwidth limitations.

[@theColeHardTruth]

This guy's like Dawid but he can pronounce "Thirty"

[@BringusStudios]

THIDDY

[@theColeHardTruth]

@@BringusStudiosLET'S INSTALL IT IN MY PEECEE

[@steelfox1448]

And less jank, 3d printing was involved instead of duct tape

[@theColeHardTruth]

@@steelfox14483d printing is the duct tape of the additive manufacturing world.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@SuperPenguin34]

Chrultrabook spotted, 10/10 video

[@alltheotherhandlesaretaken]

The hard FPS cap is probably because of a CPU bottleneck. The times where the frames suddenly dip to 1fps occasionally is most likely because of PCIe bandwidth limitation.

[@BeefPanda85]

I love this. Thank you for combining old tech with new.

[@ethanpschwartz]

As someone who's never played GTA V; thanks to these kinds of videos, I'm intimately familiar with the first two minutes of gameplay.

[@WolfmanDude]

Thumbs up for the programmers and hardware designers that made this possible. Thats some serious flexibility at play here. I didnt even know you could just leave PCIe lines unconnected.

[@nikkiofthevalley]

It's honestly not that hard to make communications this flexible, given how PCIe works. It uses a bunch of individual serial lanes for communication, so it's relatively easy to just shove the data over less lanes, because serial is already sequential. If it was a parallel bus, then it would be somewhere between very hard to impossible to make it this flexible.

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Hey you, don't agonize about sound quality so much. You are perfectly audible and you're coming thorugh on both channels. That is NOT what can be said about some *other* content creators who sometimes don't even bother to notify people about their audio problems. So you're good. And the vid was good too. Good job. ;')

[@4straios]

the first video on this *thing* was actually the first video I've watch from you, cool to see it come back :)

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amazing video thank you mr bringus

[@Trixtr]

Found this last night at 2am and went down a rabbit hole… happy to see more already

[@Flyken2]

you sir, deserve my subscription... the use of game effect sounds is deserving alone.

[@HowToLinux]

im so happy to see an continuation

[@fullstack_journey]

This feels like an LTT video but less short linus dropping things

[@myaccount6216]

Your videos always make me feel cosy, but I can't tell why. 10/10

[@JoeCorll]

I use these devices everyday at work, and this series is hilarious. My AV team and I love this series.

[@Arccharger448]

this video is so unhinged. premium bringus content! keep it up!

[@jounalehtio2317]

God I love your sound effects

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The Video I never expected .Well done

[@kaiplayz2206]

Totally addicted to you man, your first video i watched was The andriod on iphone thing, since then i watch every video that gets recommended to me. Totally worth it. Its so fun to see you game on stuff that no one imagined wss possible

[@vukkk]

this google meet is better than my pc 💀💀💀💀

[@jjinxx420]

i love the source sound effexts they are the cherry on top to the videos man pls keep uploading 😂😂

[@rafd97]

Man, I get so pumped from your videos! Would love to see the Google Meet Gaming Hub with the proper cooling for the CPU, maybe liquid metal + Noctua fan and then design the new back cover for ventilation?

[@hillconnor13]

Pure golden holy grail entertainment at its finest just don’t stop it brings us joy

[@Zjngy]

Again love it when he makes video after-school

[@DrEn0r07714]

Thank you for this video. I'm enjoyed every second.

[@vladislavkaras491]

That was an interesting experiment! Thanks for the video!

[@Anthestudios]

You did very well in minimising the jank. I think it looks very decent. Well done!

[@ALBERGALARGA_]

So you moved the wifi card to be able to connect the ssd that you need to move to be able to conect the gpu, but, couldn't you just put the ssd on the slot you moved the wifi to so you didn't need to rerout the cables?

[@Lewisnotfound1980]

He doesnt reply 😢

[@yaltschuler]

​@@Lewisnotfound1980He replied to someone else and said "I tried, but the bottom of the board didn't have enough clearance with the shell when the SSD + adapter was installed."

[@namcojr]

I had a blast watching this. Very entertaining video, thanks!

[@johansoderberg4211]

You sir are a madman. I salute you for your hard work ☺️

[@ddevin]

9:08 damnnnnn, who did you have to pay for THOSE epic special effects!

[@cian.horgan]

I just got finished with a jankier version of this two hours before the video premiered. We are all truly That Predictable

[@alyx6427]

the crispy camera audio just adds to the vibe of this

[@iwishtoexplode5162]

My favorite thing about Bringus Studios is I can watch this man do amazing things with incredibly advanced technology, make it all seem so simple, and yet I still learn absolutely nothing

[@Leonard.L.Church]

I literally learned about this channel from his switch glasses ads 😂

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

12:58 It isn't "absolutely bananas" though. The PCIe standard is backwards and forwards compatible and also delay and latency tolerant. Team Fail Overflow used a serial connection as a PCIe bus and it worked for when they were hacking the PS4, even though that would be considered PCIe 0.000001x. You should've also tested the other M.2 slot as well.

[@_Typos]

The effects really are the icing on the cake

[@KyranSparda]

8:57 I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Probable because I have bought enough shitty peripherals from Aliexpress to expect that the entire thing is going to shit. 🤣

[@Happy_supra_fan]

15:18 big gpu go fast

[@Tbrews47]

Bringus you absolute animal. Keep up the insane work

[@mayday343]

audio is fine, adds character

[@_mkc]

​huh endeavour's NVMe Root Port is config'd for x4 lanes so that slot should work better, if it doesn't that's probably the fault of the aliexpress adapter lel then again I'm probably not discovering anything the chrultrabook guys haven't already found

[@WeirdTreeThing]

We recently found out that the nvme port is only wired for x2 on endeavour, despite the fizz baseboard setting it to x4. Other fizz boards seem to not be affected, only endeavour. I imagine this is related to the extra coral slots but I'm not too sure.

[@WeirdTreeThing]

Also, in lspci we found that the root port was only running at x2.

[@nawaifu]

Thanks a lot for another amazing video,your videos always brighten my day and I'm really being sincere

[@AppoapsisStudios]

the dawid clip made my day- im suprised at the ammount of tech people I know who have no idea that creators like you or dawid or even linus exist

[@Rezzell]

Love that Dawid's madness spreads to different corners of the tube... Towards other mad scientists.

[@adamtheman17]

Why not put the ssd at the back and leave wifi alone lol

[@BringusStudios]

I tried, but the bottom of the board didn't have enough clearance with the shell when the SSD + adapter was installed

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

Reminder that a PC case also insulates any "buzzing" through every ground cable, motherboard, devices and connections. The GPU and PSU being caseless might also be the issue, or you have a heck of a microphone that can pick up coil whines. If you didn't had any buzz before replacing the PSU, it's also a very high significative in bulding quality between brands... Or having too much high voltage electronics near a microphone could also be the issue. Amazing this thing can game when it wasn't meant to game, lol.

[@matiaslovera2757]

Windows buzzing crash blue screen death

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Love watching these videos Bringus I gotta learn how to sodder these projects look fun and I wanna try

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This channel is gold

[@AnonymousDuelist]

You can't just say "perchance".

[@EdoVro]

When you scrolled through the Discord messages at like 12:35, I went frame by frame cuz I was curious and noticed something peculiar... "I had the HDMI cable from the iGPU plugged in" "Luckily through the power of editing this crucial mistake of mine won't exist" You fool. You left the mistake in for TEN FRAMESSS.

[@TheInterloper101]

Day 2 of asking you to game on a raspberry pi with Red star OS installed onto it

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Yo just found this channel and u are the version of a car guy sticking a ls in whatever it can fit and shit if it don’t we’ll make it fit and I love it this is a awesome ass channel

[@vip_bimmervip_bimmer8033]

Can i have the google coral ai chip?

[@_apsis]

what could you even do with it 💀

[@vip_bimmervip_bimmer8033]

@@_apsis Do you know what these chips are? They are for tflite acceleration (usually images) and are very useful if you know what your doing

[@Tom-em3dv]

I have one you can have

[@Tom-em3dv]

It came out of a google smart clock

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@@Tom-em3dv yummy

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I literally want this now. Like wowzers just the allure of the wacky workshop nature coupled with the shenanigans... right up my alley.

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I have to thank KZbin recommendations for making me stumble across this crazy channel.

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I like how you became alot more active on your channel

[@joempoem478]

I greatly appreciate your plentiful usage of half life sfx.

[@Wisconsindude]

Im just gonna keep watching your videos since they are pretty good

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Thank god for @BringusStudios living out my impulsive thoughts for me, so many electronics saved by him scratching the itch :P

[@Cosmic_7872]

I Just love this channel❤

[@millermichael]

Cant wait to see the absolute return to final form with the next video where you stick an independent water cooling loop on the CPU and put the whole setup in a high end RGB lit box case.👀😂😂

[@MawbleXD]

“Its not about the length. Its about how you use it” -Bringus Out Of Context

[@1337bG01]

I stumbled onto your channel today, and goddam you make some amazing tech content! I feel like you and Basically Homeless would make for a good collab. :)

[@NTG-Mrcoki]

as I came on KZbin for the first time in 5000 years. I see this video. I instantly clicked on it and subscribed.

[@the_SEAT]

You have the time, patience and skills that people like me only dream of having ❤

[@iitzfizz]

I bloody love adapters

[@Tntman24]

This actually looks good!

[@theunpatrioticcroat6284]

The buzzing gives it ✨️personality✨️

[@jishan6992]

I just love the fact that dawid was the inspiration behind this video, you guys should definitely do a collab

[@benimaru.shinmon.]

I just gotta say that i love the valve game sounds really brings back the nostalgia