$30 vs $500 Sound Panels - Is There Any Difference?

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Gaming Careers

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@GamingCareers
@GamingCareers 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Elgato's new wave panels? Worth it? Overpriced? Nice looking? Ugly? Let me know 👇
@nitchgamingstudios
@nitchgamingstudios 3 жыл бұрын
DISCORD GANG!!! 🤟🤟 @GamingCareers
@FnMoses
@FnMoses 3 жыл бұрын
the jump from 6-12 was noticeable and if u have a bigger room defo worth the investment into 12
@CreoVox
@CreoVox 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt really see a difference with Elgato panels, but the GIK I liked and would spend the extra money for them vs amazon/elgato. Great video man!
@stpwadds
@stpwadds 3 жыл бұрын
@gaming Careers, how do you make your face cam look so soft? my A5100 is awesome but too detailed showing every nook and cranny on my skin :(. I'm using 2 Elgato Keylights, one high above to the left and another to the right, now facing into the wall. Have tried for days but never get that soft look
@Enchurito
@Enchurito 3 жыл бұрын
I found the Elgato panels in most cases barely made any difference. I would rank them GIK, cheap panels, and then the elgato as they were BARELY better than having nothing at all. Definitely not worth it, at least from this test.
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - my takeaway was that 95% or more of the battle is just having a solid mic close to your mouth
@piratetech3722
@piratetech3722 3 жыл бұрын
and this is why people waste hundreds on treatment and come away unsatisfied. I good dynamic microphone will help prevent sound from bouncing around. Doesn't mean treatment doesn't help, but when you have a mic with a noisy preamp like the one on your camera hunting for any noise.... any noise is what it's going to find
@whiskeylung
@whiskeylung 3 жыл бұрын
Also - not surprisingly 12 cheap acoustic panels sparsely spread out on the wall doesn't make much of a difference but also doesn't make much difference between 12 cheap acoustic panels and 12 expensive acoustic panels. My experience is that if you cover nearly an entire wall you will get a minor improvement that may or may not be worth it to you. I would never pay $500 for sound treatment panels in my current situation but I would build them for $25 a pop using some cheap lumber, cheap material and some towels.
@GamingCareers
@GamingCareers 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, absolutely, even more so if you go with a dynamic microphone. Microphone placement and technique can get you a long long way!
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@@piratetech3722 True that! Get a sm58 and a quiet interface and that's 90% of the battle in a small room. Extremely unidirectional. And, it sounds pretty good! People always getting super sensitive condensers because they hear that they are better. In a perfect world, yeah. But you'd be in a studio also. You can hear every fan, every car, every reflection, every mouth click in a tiny room. Behringer interfaces have low noise floors, quiet preamps. Bam, you almost maximize your sound quality in a shit room with a $250 budget. You're better off just going simple in a shitty room and then putting the rest of your energy into making music. Those mini vocal booths aren't too bad either. They will cut out a bit of reflection, and not too expensive. No setup...
@Nonx47
@Nonx47 3 жыл бұрын
@@piratetech3722 a microphone doesn't prevent sound from bouncing around.
@dgsublimeshine
@dgsublimeshine 3 жыл бұрын
Man! I wanted to take a moment to appreciate all the KZbinrs that takes so much time into making these videos for us to help us with our passion while you show us your passions
@kyleheilig255
@kyleheilig255 3 жыл бұрын
And the winner is...a good dynamic mic:)
@arriagatwo777
@arriagatwo777 3 жыл бұрын
You are rigt! I don't hear any difference at all between a bear wall and a fancy 500 euros panel, which is weird because how dp you justify such a waste of money.
@pedrosilvaproductions
@pedrosilvaproductions 3 жыл бұрын
@Sash Campbell yeah but these guys just want for livestreams and such. You wouldn't buy cheap amazon pads and stuff like that if you're mixing. You would invest a bit more. And the dude here bought 6 panels and he's using them incorrectly, having put 2 or 3 panels right in front of him. If he wanted to mix he would have to place them in a different way
@AndrewBolo
@AndrewBolo 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrosilvaproductions To some extent, yeah. But we do have to keep in mind most streamers have some filter plugins for their audio such as "audio compression" which can turn up the volume of the room noise.
@co-null5599
@co-null5599 3 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Silva why? The panels are supposed to face in front, any other direction and sound frequency loses
@abalorias333
@abalorias333 2 жыл бұрын
If you have good acoustics in the room you can speak a bit farther from the mic which is convenient for comfort. So even having a good mic, acoustics will help for that 😁
@YourDriverMike
@YourDriverMike 3 жыл бұрын
I think you just sold me on the GIK panels, huge difference. I've also used the cheap Amazon panels in the past and they do help but as a fellow full-time creator my new apartment needs a more pro treatment. The GIK mounting is also more minimal versus other pro options. Also pairing with the Shure SM7B as well. Awesome job!
@manugarcia3578
@manugarcia3578 3 жыл бұрын
I've built my panels myself with a wood frame and combination of stone wool and foam panels 4 inches thick all in all. For sound absorption, the thicker the better.
@dae8894
@dae8894 3 жыл бұрын
do they also help with insulation with the wool? i live with a lot of roommates and am trying to keep noise out of my room
@manugarcia3578
@manugarcia3578 3 жыл бұрын
@@dae8894 Not really. They only prevent the sound inside from bouncing all over the walls. If you want to insulate the sound from outside, you need to completely cover all the surfaces of the room.
@dae8894
@dae8894 3 жыл бұрын
@@manugarcia3578 damn okay thank for the help
@LukasZ92.
@LukasZ92. Жыл бұрын
the GIK sounds by far the best... even at the low quallity microphone you really hear a difference there. But not only the affect is the most strength, but it also sounds the most natural to me
@EqDior
@EqDior Жыл бұрын
Very awesome demo here. Just a side note, what we have to keep in mind though is that we are comparing $24 setup vs a $200 setup and possibly a $500 plus setup. You should do a video to even the odds meaning spend the same amount on each sound treatment and then see what the results are.
@stevenspring9889
@stevenspring9889 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a system admin for a high end media company amongst other things we have a studio that hosts professional studio work (Hollywood film, TV shows and voice work. I guess they do a layered sound dampening process in which the entire outer wall of the studio are dampened with the cheap panels bought in bulk, around the inner walls there are strategically placed "average" priced panels. Then they have sound dampening walls that are hand crafted to disperse noise as needed on a per shot basis. My point is there is no absolute winner of the three, they all have a purpose and when placed correctly do the intended job. Great Video. If you guys want to see the Studio in question its Spokane Productions.
@AssassinRockxz
@AssassinRockxz 3 жыл бұрын
Huh. I was actually looking for some ideals for my new setup too. Gonna look into these. Good job man
@BBPaws
@BBPaws 3 жыл бұрын
The way that man put those sticky strips on the El Gato frames in the example...I can't 😂😅 3:56
@zayemusic
@zayemusic 3 ай бұрын
3:15 for years i've always used clear push pin tacks.. You don't have to worry about paint pilling.. just very very small wholes. very easy to change around. But Now i'm investing in some wave wall panels.
@thespeakingpen
@thespeakingpen Жыл бұрын
it is better to space out the acoustic panels rather than mount them together for optimal sound absorption and diffusion.
@thespeakingpen
@thespeakingpen Жыл бұрын
You also want to avoid placing the panels too high or too low, but rather center them at the level of the sound source, such as your speakers or your voice.
@Vivii610
@Vivii610 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed no difference except with GIK panels but not verry affordable when solutions exist like using a towel acoustic pannel costing less than100$ to make a whole wall ... Nice tests tho
@deisumus1
@deisumus1 3 жыл бұрын
12:08 "that looks like an upside down heart" Riiiight. I'll just pretend that shape didn't make me think of a big butt. XD
@39zack
@39zack 3 жыл бұрын
BUTT!!
@geekiejesus8482
@geekiejesus8482 3 жыл бұрын
There's a couple of DIY channels (might be DIY perks) that shows you how to make your own to suit your budget. The Elgato options look like a really good option though.
@TijuanaJackson
@TijuanaJackson Жыл бұрын
Now this is how to create evergreen content! Nice work! You’ve also inspired the background lighting for my studio.
@Nolen87
@Nolen87 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the sound inslation products recommendation. That's what I was looking for.
@BensWatchClub
@BensWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
Creators, listen up! Consider using sound blankets rather than any type of foam. Always found them to remove far more echo and you can mount them to rails like curtains. I don't think there's any reason to buy foam at this price, which is harder to install/remove and not as good (from my experience) when you can get more effective sound blankets for a fraction of the price 👍
@kitn2507
@kitn2507 3 жыл бұрын
They are 100% better for the price but not better quality imo
@demothy6276
@demothy6276 3 жыл бұрын
While yes, price to performance is big and sound blankets are much better value wise, aesthetics and space is a big factor. Sound blankets simply don't look as good, but more importantly, hanging them on stands takes up a lot of space. A lot of smaller content creators don't have much space to work with so every inch matters. You also don't wanna just hang sound blankets directly against the wall because you lose performance that way so that's not really an option either. and as BM mentioned, they're not necessarily better quality. There's a reason professional recording studios and broadcast stations opt for actual acoustic panels over blankets. If price is all you care about, then sure, but if those other things I just mentioned matter to you, then sound panels are a much better option.
@luk7n
@luk7n 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah try to mount them on your ceiling smarty ass
@BensWatchClub
@BensWatchClub 3 жыл бұрын
@@luk7n You can, I already did lmao
@timothyhess1908
@timothyhess1908 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. As a professional broadcaster all I can say is you get out of it what you put into it much like everything else when it comes to sound absorption.
@HispleMedia
@HispleMedia Жыл бұрын
My new office I intend to use as my studio hv 3 big windows and is close to the road... I don't know to handle the windows to reduce the noise from coming in and make the room sound great. This was a great video.
@Blackout987
@Blackout987 3 жыл бұрын
The sound insulation vs the sound absorbtion information was golden, thanks a lot!
@Vlamyncksken
@Vlamyncksken 3 ай бұрын
Oh, jolly. A 13-minute Elgato product commercial.
@hobbledragon5738
@hobbledragon5738 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the vid. Was wondering about this after seeing the announcement. Glad first vid I saw was yours.
@danyelletauscher3827
@danyelletauscher3827 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend putting some panels behind you or the main concern the reverberation off the wall in front?
@TjMoon91
@TjMoon91 3 жыл бұрын
Consider which way your microphone is facing. A cardioid microphone rejects sound from the back, so if the microphone is facing forward, the side and back walls are more important. If your microphone is facing you from an angle, you might want to experiment a bit. The angle of the microphone can be important though.
@guido69x
@guido69x 3 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter buying cheap or the expensive panels,if the user doesnt know how and where to apply them,and its gonna do it randomly! Diffusers have different shapes and textures according the lay out of the room and the frequencies they are supposed to diffuse.Applying them randomly just gonna mess the room acoustic even more!Yeah you can have less reverb,for sure,but also gonna have a crappy room acoustics. The room on this video have lots of corners and not even one single bass trap on any of them,and no diffusers on the wall in front of the speakers!!! The panels shown @0:48 are Bass traps,they are supposed to be on the ceiling above the "Sweet spot",there are some rectangular ones to put on the corners!Where they are,they are just messing your mids and low end acoustic sound!Those are huge rookie mistakes! (Sorry :/ ) There are a buch of websites with calculators to help to find the right type of diffusers and the right places where they should be applyed in the room/studio. Theres a point why diffusers have different shapes and textures,you need to make a research about it ;)
@Lilrockerdude13
@Lilrockerdude13 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, just moved into a new house and it echoes crazy good in there. Definitely going to need to work on our setups and get some proper treatment done for both stations
@salieto9597
@salieto9597 3 жыл бұрын
As mixing engineer, GIK Acoutics are best option by far ( a long far), but I think foam just should work ok with streamers that want to remove the "harshness" of high frequencies. Most important thing is depth of the foam. 1cm of depth is like nothing really. You can listen to an improvement but getting all the walls covered, which I think is highly inefficient (and ugly imo lol)
@lamborghinicentenario2497
@lamborghinicentenario2497 Жыл бұрын
aren't mineral wools dangerous to be in your bedroom though?
@salieto9597
@salieto9597 Жыл бұрын
@@lamborghinicentenario2497 Yes I think they are if they like "raw", but as GIK acoustics builds them I think its completely safe. A lot of big studios have mineral wool isolation and dont think there's any problem
@NekoUrabe
@NekoUrabe Жыл бұрын
I dont know if anyone will see this, but I planned on buying panels because I dont want the noise to leave my room or to at least not be as loud. What would you recommend for that?
@Japhex
@Japhex 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! RE: mounting, I have the cheap amazon option as a low key streamer, I do intend to upgrade, but the way I mounted them was almost exactly the same. I used gorilla selotape, 2 tiny bits per panel and then mounted all the panels to a large piece of cardboard, then command strips. Works really well!
@GamingCareers
@GamingCareers 3 жыл бұрын
Great choice, I can't describe quite how painful of an experience it was removing them when I directly stuck them to my wall in my old studio!
@TheJ3Boys
@TheJ3Boys 3 жыл бұрын
With the "cheaper foam" option, if you were to lay it on cardboard anyway, could you put a layer of foam down first like warbla and then glue/attach the pyramid foam on top?
@VespaFelipe
@VespaFelipe 2 жыл бұрын
Good night, could you talk more about those lights behind you? I loved these 2 different colors
@tommiii4542
@tommiii4542 Жыл бұрын
I just want to talk to my friends on xbox without my parents hearing😭
@senpaitriton
@senpaitriton 3 жыл бұрын
The testing cracked me up a bit. Amazing video, going to look into this for the future
@fossgoddess
@fossgoddess 3 жыл бұрын
I just put up insulated curtains over the windows that wrap around my workstation and added a folded blanket on my desk underneath where the mic hangs from the boom. World of difference.
@PhuzzyBond
@PhuzzyBond 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll probably put my streaming rig in the middle of the living room here"
@joediditde
@joediditde Жыл бұрын
so i got cold large walls, laminat flooring and a large glass window front i feel like im sitting in a goddamn church
@rowegardner9673
@rowegardner9673 2 жыл бұрын
GIK Acoustics are simply unmatched. Amazing brand. Their impressions series diffuser/absorber panels are dope and actually look really cool. They make a hugeee difference in my room.
@neilmusician1143
@neilmusician1143 3 жыл бұрын
which DSLR are you using to record this video? Which lens? seems very good quality video.
@BeardedTechGuy
@BeardedTechGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I used poster command strips right on the foam panels from amazon and they have held up well so far (3ish months so far) as well
@StevePH
@StevePH 3 жыл бұрын
Genuine question. Would the panels work better if they were on the wall your mic is facing? I would assume there aren't going to do much for a cartioid pattern mic if they are behind it. The mic would be picking up reflection off the wall behind you the most I would think.
@mica4977
@mica4977 3 жыл бұрын
In case someone else is curious it's preferable to have panels on all walls & ceiling with the addition of a carpet but it's fair to just place them behind the mic (towards the place you're facing) and to your sides. When you project your voice outwards these will be the areas your voice makes contact with first before bouncing all over the place. Allowing them to absorb those sound-waves from the start means they'll be weaker and less able to bounce around the rest of the room even if those areas aren't treated. Also even tho condenser mics in carioid mode are meant to only pick things up from one direction it does not mean they're invulnerable to sound behind them (such as mouse clicks and typing sounds). It just sets a preferred sensitivity towards the front. This means that echo reflecting from in front of you and hitting the back of the mic will still be picked up and can still have an effect on the clarity of your voice.
@TitanPlayz
@TitanPlayz 3 жыл бұрын
Just placed an order for these. Going to use in my next stream! Thanks!
@BrentInvesting
@BrentInvesting 3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy the Elgato? I was thinking of picking up 12, vs using panels.
@MzCatieShorts
@MzCatieShorts 3 жыл бұрын
i got the cheap Amazon panels to get me through to when i move to a bigger place. Im gonna redo my studio audio setup when i move out but i know stepping up the Sound panels is gonna be a big +
@tgmasterx
@tgmasterx 3 жыл бұрын
regardless of price and performance, they look *pretty* sick
@Luke42652
@Luke42652 3 жыл бұрын
Foam only covers high frequencies. And you need at least 2" of it. The GIK acoustics panels are fiberglass and cover a much wider frequency of sounds, especially the thicker ones. They are expensive, but worth it if you don't want to put the time / energy into making your own Fiberglass/Rockwool panels. You can DIY the panels, but you need tools time and patience to build the panels, especially if you want to put the insulation into nice frames.
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
1” foam can cover high frequencies too if you have enough
@Luke42652
@Luke42652 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about "having" enough as much as the density and thickness of the material. "Having enough" is about surface area coverage. 1" will do very high frequencies. 2" will be slightly lower. It'll make the room sound deader, but it doesn't mean it will absorb enough frequencies for a clean recording. Small square rooms can have a null frequency of 125 Hz, and the human voice can go as low as 80Hz. But keep in mind -- it's not just about the vocal range, fans, and other noise making things.
@stephenzzz
@stephenzzz 3 жыл бұрын
What mic did you use to record this video?
@RyanxWest
@RyanxWest 8 ай бұрын
i have a nueman tml 103 and its a really solid microphone but picks up so much noise. especially since i just moved and have no sound treatment. i was wondering if a smb7 would be a better mic for me
@werewolfhunter1119
@werewolfhunter1119 5 ай бұрын
So i noticed you only have a few of these. i was gonna soundproof my garage for a man cave ect. But my question is, do i need to soundproof the whole wall, or do i only need a few of them?
@MarkVO
@MarkVO 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Elgato panels are light is a sign that they will only target higher frequencies. Acoustic treatment needs to be thick and heavy in order for it to effectively deaden sound in all frequencies. Bass frequencies are the most difficult to handle and require bass traps but excessive boominess isn’t that easy to hear if you watch streams or videos on a phone with very little bass reproduction in the speakers. You’re absolutely right about then thin panels on Amazon, they’re rubbish. For my professional voice over I have myself surrounded in thick acoustic (not moving) blankets but I still need to put panels in the corners to deal with bass buildup. Getting good audio is so much harder than getting good video.
@zeitakulobusta
@zeitakulobusta 11 ай бұрын
Thickness counts but heaviness/density less so, and light and thick is better then thin/heavy for low frequencies.
@joelfrom08
@joelfrom08 Жыл бұрын
Would it be worth it to install sound panels in every bit of your room, or is it just a waste of money and no good difference will be heard after like 12 panels?
@sanchezvalentine8416
@sanchezvalentine8416 Жыл бұрын
This video taught me so much bro thank you‼️
@Philminator
@Philminator Жыл бұрын
What's a night and day difference, is having a good mic, with proper EQ. I have a noise gate, compressor, and noise limiter as well. I found sound panels in my bedroom for voice over to make too subtle of a difference to bother investing $ into it. Even on your test with your mic and no sound panels, you sound better than most people on KZbin.
@simonedwards7101
@simonedwards7101 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Out of interest, what's the distance from the back of your desk to the wall? And does that distance make a difference? In front of me is 2.5m gap and behind me is 2m. To my left is 1m and to my right is 4.5m.
@Uradamus
@Uradamus 3 жыл бұрын
The dynamic mic made the biggest difference by a mile. With the higher quality mic the difference between all of the options was rather negligible, even with the bare wall. So to me the take away is, forget about the wall treatments and put all of that money you were going to spend on them towards getting a better mic, lol. At least if all you plan to do is stream or make YT videos.
@PriiimeeeXBL
@PriiimeeeXBL 2 жыл бұрын
I have a sm7b with a XLR mini and everyone tells me I sound like I’m in a empty room ( it isn’t full but it also isn’t empty) I’ve watched dozens of videos on settings and they all say they can’t see a difference in anything… super stuck
@SergiOrtiz
@SergiOrtiz Жыл бұрын
Rode nt1 is a condenser mic, not dynamic
@blvkqmusicgroup
@blvkqmusicgroup Жыл бұрын
@@PriiimeeeXBL Use a noise gate
@jgun-tv
@jgun-tv Ай бұрын
Gik doesn't seem to make this panel anymore. I can't find a 2.6" panel anywhere on their website. The link in your description links to a 3.6" panel, which is NOT the one you used in your review. All I can find are a 2" panel and a 3.6" panel from Gik. So I"m a bit lost on what to order. the 242 Acoustic Panels are 3.6″ thick, and I can't give up that much space. I don't want my desk 4" from my wall. The 2" wouldn't have the performance I'd like. It's a Goldilocks problem. I wish they still sold the 2.6" panels you have.
@Sua1239
@Sua1239 2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing, bro gave me more than I needed
@umpus
@umpus 3 жыл бұрын
Does it make any difference if you stick the panels behind your monitor? Doesn't the sound bounce off the screen before it hits the wall?
@munaq-jp
@munaq-jp 3 жыл бұрын
Clear nano tape is pretty good to stick the panels to painted walls without damaging them.
@TheNerd
@TheNerd 3 жыл бұрын
i just build myself a little tone cabin by buying some wood, putting it together and just putting it on my desk. the wood cost me like 100$ (80cm height, 1,7meters wide 80cm deep) + rockwool + cloth to prevent the rockwool getting into my lung. the rockwool is the same you use to build a house. usually rockwool gets used to build cinemas for example. it's a cheap and very noise dampening solution. the only downside i would say is the weight since i used wood. the construction weights about 50kgs. for my next build i would use some form of plastic that can hold the rockwool.
@otleycrew6670
@otleycrew6670 3 жыл бұрын
Basically if you have a sm7b do you really need panels?
@PCTechHustle
@PCTechHustle 3 жыл бұрын
My jaw DROPPED hearing the difference of the GIK panels! Wow! Too bad they are so expensive! Great video though!
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 2 жыл бұрын
The difference in mid range to high frequency absorption is the Absorption Coefficient Curve. Not all foams are the same, not all panels are the same.. For voice and music applications, it's best to have a nice smooth slope from 125hz to about 1000hz.. The most natural sounding tend to be the products with a smooth slope that closely matches human hearing curves. I have dealt with typical acoustic panels using fiberglass, Sonex, Auralex, ASC, Acoustic Fields and out of all of the products I've dealt with, by far, the most natural sounding were the Acoustic Fields. I think they nailed the absorption coefficient curves. You can buy the foam panels and put them directly on the surfaces in your room< OR build your own frames (preferable) and cover them with whatever fabric, OR you can buy them in a variety of thicknesses with pre-built frames covered and uncovered with fabric. I prefer covering with fabric as that will protect the foam from UV exposure, plus they look nicer.. I'm not a fan of other panels because they just don't have a good absorption coefficient curve and they tend to either over absorb or under absorb In the most critical 125hz to 500hz range. This information is rarely talked about by most of the acoustic panel mfg.'s.. Some companies don't even show absorption coefficient curves and most consumers have no idea what to look for, so they end up going by price and how they look rather than choosing the product with the best absorption coefficient curves.
@MadlyNathan
@MadlyNathan 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good test but I had a difficult time noticing a difference and I have some experience with audio and mixing. I think using a dynamic mic, although very good to use, made it hard to notice a difference with the sound panels. If you used a condenser mic, which is better at picking up different directions of audio, it would have been clearer to notice. Good video nonetheless.
@TjMoon91
@TjMoon91 3 жыл бұрын
The Rode NT1 is a condenser mic.
@reekrodriqguez6552
@reekrodriqguez6552 3 жыл бұрын
But this is one
@niftygrower2745
@niftygrower2745 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The conclusion is so obvious that unless there is some kind of science to the sound “experiment”, then we don’t need the video at all. Just tell us the more expensive ones are better. Gotta have some sort of measurement to see what the actual difference is, other than your naked ear telling you one is better than the other.
@hnskyo9251
@hnskyo9251 3 жыл бұрын
funny he covered less area with the amazon panels, the whole point of using them is that you are able to use more, and reach an acceptable level of sound treatment, with less than half the price of the more expensive ones.
@Lonion_glug
@Lonion_glug 7 ай бұрын
Yeah he can fill the entire wall with the cheap pannels
@DrOrion
@DrOrion 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please write or link to those wall strips you recommended to protect the wall?
@Leggenda88
@Leggenda88 3 жыл бұрын
The link of Wave panels is not right. Is not in sell for now?
@darrendavies1102
@darrendavies1102 2 жыл бұрын
Great blog.. thx for your time especially making a mess on the wall as I rent a property: OK got a question for you or anybody: I. a pc gamer and I use bookself speakers if I placed these panels on a wall behind the speakers: would it make a difference in the wife hearing me ay call of duty 😀 would one wall in placing these make a difference... this is a serious question 😳 many thx for your support 🙏
@kristofaxelson5088
@kristofaxelson5088 Жыл бұрын
Acoustic panels are not very useful for reducing sound transmission between rooms.
@LustraGaming
@LustraGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I've actually been building my own panels last week. I'm just waiting for the fabric to cover them. They cost me a total of 120€ for 8 panels of 100 by 60 cm (about 39 by 23,5 inch) which isn't that bad. Spent about 9 hours building the frames, But I'm lazy by design and I don't have any powertools to assist me so I used a handsaw to cut all my pieces to size. Hopefully applying the fabric won't take this long :)
@denisemarie5661
@denisemarie5661 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a gamer, but your video has such excellent information for room treatment, thank you.
@floshi6519
@floshi6519 3 жыл бұрын
Gik Acoustic - MADE IN ITALY - Proud to be Italian!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
@ParadoxGamingNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
I actually ended up going with a different option (although your acoustic panels are what I was looking at long term). I ended up hanging a noise reducing/black-out curtain on the wall I'm facing, and then put up decorative shower curtains (ironic right?) on the wall behind him.
@GamingCareers
@GamingCareers 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! It's all about making improvements with what you can access. Those thick black-out curtains are great tools for both audio and making your lighting more consistent.
@LookHere3
@LookHere3 Жыл бұрын
can these be used to stop outside noise from coming into the room?
@danieltanhengsheng
@danieltanhengsheng 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, May I know What is the type of fabric you are using for the rockwool acoustic panel?
@MJBsor
@MJBsor 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! I have made Rockwood panels myself, and I wondered how they compare to cheap foam and more expensive foam panels. What I noticed was those midrange foam panels deadened the sound a lot but none of the bass, so they made it sound like you were in a large deadened room. The gik panels were more natural sounding and sounded like you were in empty space, I may buy some for my next HT build.
@lamborghinicentenario2497
@lamborghinicentenario2497 Жыл бұрын
aren't mineral wools dangerous to be in your bedroom though?
@jamesbastani4295
@jamesbastani4295 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I listened on Neumann NDH 30 headphones and I couldn’t hear much of a difference between the treatments. Obviously the untreated room sounded awful, but all the treatments sounded very similar. The low frequencies were a little more distinctively different with the large panels, but not enough to justify the price difference.
@yega3k
@yega3k 3 жыл бұрын
To me, the room sounds great already even without any treatment.
@JarvisVO-Foley
@JarvisVO-Foley 2 ай бұрын
lmfao
@Sillyboy-to3uf
@Sillyboy-to3uf 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put a poster or tapestry in front of the panels or would that just defeat the purpose?
@Ghaleon
@Ghaleon 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video! I'm moving to a studio I'm building and I was planing to FULL a whole wall with those things. Not anymore I guess o.O
@AironExTv
@AironExTv 3 жыл бұрын
Save up or build your own. There are plenty of videos on building Rockwool/Corning 703/705 panels. MOVE the mic around if you‘re getting resonances. The best possible source signal is easier to manage. Then learn to use audio vst plugins such as Gates, Compressors and EQs. EQs in particular can help fix some light problems in the room, but good acoustic treatment is always preferred. An hour build time per panel if it all goes well I‘d say. One small tip from a dialogue recording engineer is to have two rolling 2-meter playbook walls in this shape around you: / \ Put the thickest absorbing material you can find on the sides facing you. Cover them if you must(glass wool Corning 703 for example). Instantly decent. I had to improvise such a setup on a show I mixed and recorded voice over lines for. Elgato‘s stuff, dense rockwool in a plywood frame or anything equivalent of at least 5 cm(2 inches) should be the bare minimum.
@zeitakulobusta
@zeitakulobusta 11 ай бұрын
Playbook? Plywood?
@echonuim
@echonuim 3 жыл бұрын
My solution, get some thick blackout curtains if your desk is next to a window 50 bucks max. Then spend maybe 200 on a mic+phantom power and you should be fine because of audio compression when you stream or upload to youtube.
@tgmasterx
@tgmasterx 3 жыл бұрын
welcome to nanoleafs, without the lights or customisation, just foam
@piratetech3722
@piratetech3722 3 жыл бұрын
yeah except the nano leafs won't help your sound at all and just sits there like an RGB beacon in the night
@tgmasterx
@tgmasterx 3 жыл бұрын
@@piratetech3722 i know man, thats why I am saying that because they are overpriced like nanoleafs
@hkhatri12
@hkhatri12 3 жыл бұрын
wait a couple of months, there would be RGB acoustic treatment panels.
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 3 жыл бұрын
@@hkhatri12 There better be.
@Tearial311
@Tearial311 3 жыл бұрын
Using REW would have helped make the point more clear
@ALJessica
@ALJessica 2 жыл бұрын
I just listened several times, I am not a sound engineer or anything, I am just the average viewer, and I can hear a difference. But the difference is biggest between 6 and 12 elgato panels. There was barely any difference between 12 elgato and the GIK. However, I have been a drummer for 5 years and 4 years as a guitar player. So my ears do have a little training. So to me, the average viewer, it didn't add anything to the production value those GIK panels. So I guess it depends on who your target audience or demographic is. But thanks for the video :)
@ZarktheShark94
@ZarktheShark94 3 жыл бұрын
So wats best, I’m just trying to stop sound coming thru walls. My wall is thin and I can hear sound coming thru the next room. Nd so can they
@kapnkronic8051
@kapnkronic8051 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way I’d spend that much on one panel. I make my own from and I’ve use several different things to fill them with from Rockwool to multiple layers of carpet padding to mattress toppers. And it works just fine as long as you use enough. Nobody would ever know.
@Itseno
@Itseno Жыл бұрын
How many do I need for a 100 squarefoot room?
@appleneworleans4018
@appleneworleans4018 2 жыл бұрын
Am I supposed to be able to hear the difference? I could only notice a difference with the GIK, but even that was minimal.
@globalmolecule
@globalmolecule Жыл бұрын
Which RGB lights are you using for your background?
@CarmellaNYC
@CarmellaNYC Жыл бұрын
If I put two panesl near my tv wall willl it block sound to my neighbors wall, as the room is open plan I can only mount tv on neighboring wall
@B0sser
@B0sser 3 жыл бұрын
any tips on how to hang the foam panels?
@LimaEchoEchoZz
@LimaEchoEchoZz 3 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what light source your using for the RGB background ?
@-Good4Y0u
@-Good4Y0u 3 жыл бұрын
What about the 2" thick ebay / Amazon panels?
@soulshinobi
@soulshinobi 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else calculate the price per square inch? The Elgato 6 pack is the most expensive option for a given area unless you're very expensive to ship to. Area in square inches per $100 below, all based on the precise area (not volume) measurements given in the video. Listening with headphones I thought only the GIK panels made a noticeable difference. Elgato: Area 244 sq in ea x 6 for $100 = 1,464 sq in/$100 GIK: Area 1,168 sq in for $65 ea = 1,797 sq in/$100 (shipping not included, and you can't actually buy less than 3 at a time, see below) Or x6 = 7,006 sq in for "$500" = 1,401 sq in/$100 (technically the most expensive by a hair, but this maybe included shipping from GA, USA to the UK, which most of you aren't doing) GIK current price with shipping within the USA: Area 1,168 sq in x3 = 3,604 for $226 shipped = 1,550 sq in/$100 (3 is the minimum you can buy and what I would likely get) Or x6 = 7,006 sq in for $453 = 1,547 sq in/$100 That was shipping to me in NH from GA. To be fair, worst case scenario and most expensive over all would be shipping to CA, in part due to a hefty tax: x6 = 7,006 sq in for $505 = 1,387 sq in/$100
@cb4j
@cb4j 3 жыл бұрын
Would you rather have the better ones that are twice as much.... Or twice as many of the Elgato ones? How would that sound comparison end up if you stacked to double the thickness of the elgatos?
@matthews.9343
@matthews.9343 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the color of your gik panels?
@leokoach
@leokoach 3 жыл бұрын
I will share a secret, which could be somewhat fashionable idea... I put tiny hangers on my walls, randomly and hung my coats that I don't wear often. I know, sound might be little "crazy" first, but if you can find nice coats, or something similar, in different colors, it becomes decorative as well... and 0$ spent (minus the hangers, or tiny nails). Could be jerseys or even hats... anything cloth you can find and hang on your studio walls :)
@Lilshorts-
@Lilshorts- 2 жыл бұрын
Hey my sons room is right next to mine was wondering if you could help me with some tips on what's the best way to go about making the noise coming from his from room quieter? Ty
@kristofaxelson5088
@kristofaxelson5088 Жыл бұрын
Build a room within a room. Ensure that the walls, floor, and ceilings are decoupled.
@dalazyworf
@dalazyworf 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in the works of building my own foam panels using some scrap would we have and using them at the frames. Than getting solid acoustic foam pannels to act as the bottom of the full panel and sides, than using pyramid soft foam squares as the top of the panels. In total costing me about 150 for the foam and other supplies such as adhesive. But I like the DIY project since I get them the exact size I want.
@BogdanRaczynskiMusic
@BogdanRaczynskiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, I'm not even looking to be a gamer or have a career in gaming, but found this video when looking at sound panels. I wanted to just say that the audio quality on this is incredible! The sound profile is absolute perfection. Perfect balance of EQ and range. I'm going to keep this video open so I can A/B as a reference for how I want my vocals to sound. I see you've got a handful of videos up on EQ settings, but some are quite dated. Would you say they're all still relevant or have you levelled up your audio game significantly in the last year or two but not shared your secret recipe? Top marks! edit: back from sleuthing your other vids - there's a marked difference in audio within the last 6-9 months. Is it the sound panels? It's as though the sound is completely devoid of any sound bouncing off walls. But also the EQ range is very precise? Any ideas what changed please?
@jorgecalabro6922
@jorgecalabro6922 2 жыл бұрын
Same looking for advice on sound panels for my room to ply guitar loud
@aro7975
@aro7975 2 жыл бұрын
Panels with rockwool , fibreglass etc can't be beat. There is an absolutely massive night and day difference in person when using them (and a big difference in the video also). Categorically massive difference. Place them at first reflection points and if possible a few above the listening position on the ceiling. It's more expensive but massively helps with audio decay times and thus mixing and even just enjoying music more. Anybody that says there is no difference either doesn't have speakers or a mic or ears.
@LJ-bq9fy
@LJ-bq9fy Жыл бұрын
@Aro Oh man, I need to get my ears checked then. I barely noticed a difference in ANY of his tests.
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