Gamo Swarm Magnum 10x Gen3i Chronograph Test

[@stanlysteemer4872]

Thanks for the realistic chronograph information on this air rifle. Lots of hype on how much power these expensive air rifles have. The facts are something else. You can go to a box store and buy one for a hell of a lot less with same chronograph velocities. In all the world the rarest of all things the truth based on facts.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yeah, the manufacturers like to fluff up the numbers. Thanks for watching!

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

The Gamo Magnum has a good reputation. Can't wait to see how it shoots 🙂👍🎯.

[@shanepitzer4126]

I'm still learning the hold on this one. The other day I was printing 1/2" at 25 yards with the JSB 18.13gr. Yesterday when I shot this vid, I did some shooting also, and my groups were opened up to about 2" with the same pellet. It was windy, but not THAT windy. So I will work on that a bit. When I share a shooting vid I want to show the gun's ability, not MY inability.....grin

[@Wingman115]

Congrats on the new rig.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thanks!😀

[@BlastedKat]

My Gamo Magum settled in around 910 fps with the Crossman pellets down here at my Florida altitude after a thousand shots. For a break barrel it's extremely accurate. The problem is it eats scopes.

[@shanepitzer4126]

That seems like great performance. So far mine hasn't broken the included scope, or a Hawke I had on it for a short time. I'm sure it is only a matter of time though. I had an RWS 3500 that trashed two scopes in under 50 shots each. Broken reticles in both cases. Thanks for watching and sharing a comment!

[@rogergoodwin5533]

17 or 22?

[@BlastedKat]

@@rogergoodwin5533 That's with .22 pellets.

[@dugitheguitarman]

It's said by Gamo that rifle shoots from 36J - 45J. Looking at these speeds, it is merely around 30J only. Or am i wrong?

[@shanepitzer4126]

I don't think you are wrong. But I'm at 4000 feet elevation. The air is a bit thinner here than lower elevations. I'm sure Gamo recorded their performance in atmosphere closer to sea level where the air is more dense. I've noticed that I lose 60 or so FPS compared to others using same gun/pellet at low elevation.

[@yaravimegpoid]

This the best FPS test, thanks bro.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

[@yaravimegpoid]

I have 1820m above sea level and I have 860 fps approx, is this normal?

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@yaravimegpoid I think it is normal, you are at pretty high elevation. Thanks for watching!

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

I did not know that a springer rifle was effected by elevation. Curios what the difference would be.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thinner air doesn't compress and build as much pressure. Here at 4000 ft, I seem to be losing 50-75 fps compared to low elevation, per some reviews I've seen. Thanks for watching!

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

@@shanepitzer4126 Good to know. Thanks.

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@johnnybbgunner2136 It wouldn't be an issue with PCP or CO2 guns. But with the break-barrel the air in the compression chamber just isn't as dense at altitude. I suppose with a multi-pumper one could add a pump or two at higher elevation, as needed to compensate for the thinner air.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

@@shanepitzer4126 That was going to be my next question on PCP or CO2 guns. The only xtra pumps would definitely work.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Crossbows and airguns nice always nice to find a new interesting channel👍😉

[@raimundoqueiroz5766]

What's the reason velocities are higher at sea level? I was thinking that the lower air density gave a higher velocity than a sea level velocity. What's the physics reason for this? Thanks

[@shanepitzer4126]

At higher elevation, the air in the compression chamber is less dense. When it compresses under the piston, it creates less pressure than the denser air at low elevation. Once the pellet leaves the gun, the thinner air does have less resistance/drag on the pellet.

[@raimundoqueiroz5766]

@@shanepitzer4126 Got it thanks Merry Christmas

[@skullairguns5156]

Very interesting speed test my friend, I like this Gamo! Have a great Monday 💀👍

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

The alloys state on the tins for PCP rifles only. I wonder if they drag down the barrel over the softer lead?

[@NoBody-gr6zv]

The hades is a hollow point version of the exact jumbo. Both the same weight but the h.p reduces the ballistic coefficient thereby reducing the speed. Hades are brilliantly ballanced and take advantage of the speed reduction and translates that into better accuracy 🎯 yet greater trauma on impact 🤯. Win win. Enjoyed the video TY sir!

[@shanepitzer4126]

Glad you enjoyed the vid, thanks for watching and taking the time to share your comments!

[@statgenie6575]

Is this just guess or evidence based?

[@benjaminaffrunti4405]

Hi I was wondering if You know do slugs work well in the new gen 3 version of the swarm Magnum? I'm wondering how well the cycle in the magazines and load in the barrel and how accurately they shoot???

[@shanepitzer4126]

Benjamin, I'm sorry I have no experience with the slugs. Thanks for watching!

[@jdisheretoo]

If you buy a new one,should you clean before you shoot

[@shanepitzer4126]

I believe it's a good idea. I swabbed the bore on this one, and it was fairly grimy inside. About three patches got it clean enough. A lot of black fouling from the machining lube, and maybe some preservative they put in the bore. Thanks for watching!

[@LastCast2011]

when lighter pallets shooting slower than heavier, I think they go through the barrel slower because they have a larger head size.

[@shanepitzer4126]

That could be true. I believe it must have something to do with bore seal, and the lead hardness. Thanks for watching!

[@TCat-ve9qi]

I have one and here in PA I’m at the same velocity. It shoots great and 25ftlbs is plenty to lay the smack down lol. Really enjoy it

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yeah they are pretty nice. I'm liking the looks of the new "Pro" model stock. I don't really want to buy another Gamo Magnum, but if they would just offer the stock, I'd buy one.

[@TCat-ve9qi]

I have owned so many air rifles, and I actually sold off my TX200 and kept my FX Crown and this Gamo Magnum, Gamo Swarm, and Gamo Varmit. I just like their weight and they shoot great for me. I personally like the thumbhole stock the best but its all preference. @@shanepitzer4126

[@XXNerdzillaXX]

I absolutely hate that the manufacturers advertise wildly inaccurate velocity numbers. I hate it. I wish those liars would just tell the truth!!!

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yeah, I just take it with a grain of salt. The number might be true, or close, at sea level, with the lightest alloy pellets. The reason I'm not really bothered about it is because pellets do their best accuracy at subsonic velocity anyways.

[@XXNerdzillaXX]

@@shanepitzer4126 I also take it with a grain of salt. Nonetheless, it doesn't make any sense to advertise numbers like that. I'd much rather see the average numbers advertised, or at maybe numbers for lightest pellet, average, and heavy pellets.

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@XXNerdzillaXX That would be more useful information.

[@anthonyprice3353]

Totally agree. These are impressive air rifles for sure but the manufacturers claims are wildly inaccurate. They should do what Porsche do, slightly understate the performance specs and give the customer a nice surprise. Under promise & over deliver.

[@Normtheteacher]

They probably did get the advertised velocity, but under ideal laboratory conditions. Perfect pellet, perfect temperature, perfect humidity factor, perfect air density. One can get higher velocities by Dieseling. Dieseling is where you put a drop of gun oil on a pellet before firing it. The sudden compression of the air produces enough heat to ignite the oil. The burning of the oil produces extra pressure, thus extra velocity. The oil probably also acts as a seal to retain more pressure. I've done this even with a bb fired from a 177 caliber pellet/bb gun. It worked. Keep in mind though, pellet guns were not designed for the extra pressure Dieseling produces. So be careful!

[@timstar28]

Id love to see a video of a variety of pellets though the chronograph. I see a lot of ppl love the gamo lethals. Im planning on buying the gamo mag gen3 really soon, im just debating betweem the .22 and .177 rn. But besides that, good stuff my man.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Glad you enjoyed the vids, thanks for watching! I have a few different pellets from H&N and JSB sampler packs. I'll have to do a big velocity/accuracy test one of these days.

[@timstar28]

@Shane Pitzer yeah that be awesome man

[@johndoee3850]

Which do you prefer, GAMO OR HATSAN?THANKS

[@shanepitzer4126]

Oh man, that's hard to say. I really like both of them.

[@bobybaba5267]

thanks for the video Baracuda 15 gr works great on this gun , me personally clean my barrel when I get a new air rifle , that really help with velocity , for this gun was such a hell to clean it , I had to remove the suppressor

[@shanepitzer4126]

I cleaned mine first also. I too had to take the suppressor apart to do it. It was pretty simple though, just pushed out those two roll pins, then the top cap and baffles came right off. Thanks for watching!

[@bobybaba5267]

@@shanepitzer4126 you said in the video about 4000 feet above see level is 80% of air density at sea level, how much velocity you think you lost for being at 4000’ ? Just curious because I’m at 5000 feet and I never been able to shoot cross man 14.3 gr faster than 835 fps , and 9.8 gr gamo pellets fastest I ever done was 1205 not 1300 with gamo magnum gen3i , do you think the elevation is the reason for less velocity or the gun it self , thank you

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@bobybaba5267 I think it's definitely the elevation, not the gun. Thinner air in the compression chamber just isn't going to give as much 'boost' as thicker air. I'm getting about 850 fps with the Crosman 14.3gr, so your velocity of 835 at 5000 ft doesn't surprise me. I think I'm losing 50-75 fps depending on pellet weight, as compared to down near sea-level. You're likely losing 75-100 fps. Shane

[@bobybaba5267]

@@shanepitzer4126 thank you 🙏

[@sigmanarchery54]

Very nice looks like it going to be a great toy 😁😁👍🏼👍🏼 looking forward to seeing it in action. 🙏🏼

[@shanepitzer4126]

I'll get some shooting results up in the near future. Today I put 100 or so pellets through it, trying different holds to see what lets it shoot well. I think I have it figured out. Got a nice sub-1/2" 5-shot group at 27 yards after working with it for a while.

[@shanepitzer4126]

We should start seeing some starlings around here soon, this should crush them.

[@sigmanarchery54]

@@shanepitzer4126 that is very respectable 👍🏼

[@sigmanarchery54]

@@shanepitzer4126 for sure.

[@EvmEvm-q3g]

Not a toy be aware of that

[@johndoee3850]

Where is a PBA BULLET??THANKS

[@shanepitzer4126]

I have never tried any of the PBA or alloy pellets. Internet lore says they are not very accurate having to pass through the transonic velocity range. Thanks for watching!

[@aminanomanlifestyleinkarachi]

Wonderful sharing appreciate it very much

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@drumtwo4seven]

My Gamo Hunter Extreme Pro .22 is arriving Sunday (6-11-23) I believe it's the same power plant as Gamo Magnum GEN3i 1,300 fps alloy pellets I chose it over this rifle because no magazine, has fiber optic sights front and rear, rail for the scope is spring loaded or something will absorb shock, beechwood frame, break the barrel load one pellet at a time my biggest preference Bought a barska scope air rifle scope 4x24x40 traditional Crosshair 👍

[@shanepitzer4126]

I looked at the Hunter Extreme too, before buying my Swarm. The Hunter Extreme looks really nice with the sights, wood stock, and all. I'm sure it will be a fantastic break-barrel.

[@ChildofYHVH]

The difference in velocity could be because one pellet has a better seal than the other?!?

[@shanepitzer4126]

I'm sure that is part of the equation. Thanks for watching!

[@krausearchery8749]

Hi Shane, I was thinking about my next buy. Thanks, 😊Brother.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Glad to 'help'....grin.

[@nd.funnation6860]

I have the same , it shoots great. Can we have the gamo vs hatsan any time soon 🙏🙏 . I really wanna see the difference between them . Keep it going , I like the content . Very good explanations as well and good voice 👌

[@shanepitzer4126]

I'm definitely going to do some comparison videos. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment!

[@ZorPrime199]

Unfortunately, this is far lower than the advertised speed. Wish this wasn't the case.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Advertised velocity will be the lightest alloy pellet, near sea level, hot day, shooting downhill (grin). They say it's best to have a muzzle velocity below supersonic anyway, because the transition to subsonic velocity can mess with accuracy. I've heard a lot of air gunners with more knowledge than me suggest that around 890 fps is a great place to be. Thanks for watching!

[@johndoee3850]

A rws hobby should hit, the 1100 to 1200 FPS??

[@shanepitzer4126]

Probably about right at lower elevation. Maybe 1000-1100 here at 4000 ft? I haven't tried the RWS Hobby, but I should probably give it a whirl one of these days. Thanks for watching!

[@drumtwo4seven]

Which Handan 125 do you own that is 100 fps faster than this Gamo ?

[@shanepitzer4126]

Well, I have to eat my words there. When My Hatsan 125 Sniper QE was new, it was probably registering higher velocities due to new dieseling. A couple days ago I did a side-by-side chrono test with the Hatsan 125 and Gamo Mgnum. Some results (elevation 4000ft): Crosman 14.3gr - Hatsan 910fps, Gamo 850 fps JSB 18.13 - Hatsan 805fps, Gamo 775fps.

[@drumtwo4seven]

Nice 👍 TY

[@PankajGupta-cc5rr]

I'm from India ,can u tell me what is the size of transfer port of ur.22 gamo Magnum

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@PankajGupta-cc5rr I measured it with calipers. It is right at .180 inches in diameter.

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@PankajGupta-cc5rr Thanks for watching!

[@thomasgronek6469]

How does it stack up against the gen2

[@shanepitzer4126]

I've not had a Gen2, so I couldn't really say from experience. I believe it's the same powerplant, dropped the open sights, and some tweaking to the magazine feed system. Thanks for watching!

[@thomasgronek6469]

@@shanepitzer4126 thanks for responding

[@usmc6157]

Liked and subbed…good vid brother. I’ve got the same gun, chronograph (DLX version), and Caldwell table. Semper Fi!

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the vid! It's a nice air rifle, Semper Fi!

[@abanks2771]

Doesn’t Gamo boast a 1300 for that gun?

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yes they do. That is probably doable at sea level, with the lightest alloy pellets. I'm at 4000ft, shooting mostly 14.3gr and 18.13gr, so I'm in the 750-900 fps range depending on the pellet.

[@nelis1385]

I just chrono'd mine and I was getting around 830 fps with the 18.13 Exact Jumbo at sea level. It's advertised as 45 jouls or 33.2 FPE so it should be putting out a little over 900 fps with those pelllets which is curious. Still a great gun but I'm a little disappointed in the false advertising. Thanks for conforming that It's probably what I should expect and not a dud.

[@shanepitzer4126]

The advertised velocity is obviously fluffed up a fair amount. 830 fps with the 18.13gr is still a lot of power, I'd love it if I could get that speed here.

[@nelis1385]

@@shanepitzer4126 Oh yes it does what it needs to do. I'm not complaining.

[@Joe_Goofball]

The box mine came in said 1200 fps

[@shanepitzer4126]

That might be possible with the lightest alloy pellet, near sea-level. Surely not happening with a 14-18gr pellet at 4000 ft elevation.

[@Joe_Goofball]

@@shanepitzer4126 I'm at a mile above Sea Level...

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@Joe_Goofball Yeah, that elevation 's not going to help in reaching those advertised velocities....

[@user-bl3si3kq6x]

Is it subsonic?

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yes. The speed of sound is around 1080 fps. None of these pellets were anywhere near that velocity.

[@user-bl3si3kq6x]

@shanepitzer4126 The gamo site says they can do 1300. I want something subsonic for sure

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@user-bl3si3kq6x 1300 might happen with alloy pellets, at sea-level, on a hot day. With the lead 22 cal pellets, in the 14+ grain weight, it's subsonic.

[@Defossion1]

Looks like fun! I hope you get to shoot some stuff with it!

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yeah they are a lot of fun. More fun than I had imagined. I got my first air gun a couple years ago, bought/sold a few, there are four in the inventory now.

[@zachthomas184]

I just got mine today and got it dialed in and I'm ready to get the squirrels that have been getting fat on my corn 🌽 all season. Im gonna get my money's worth 😊

[@shanepitzer4126]

Good deal!!

[@TheInvisibleOrange26]

Im slightly disappointed 18 grain pellets and sub 800 fps while advertisirng 1300 whith alloy

[@shanepitzer4126]

It seems the airgun industry likes to fluff up the numbers. Also I'm at 4000 ft, so that robs 50-60 fps.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Very quiet with that built in silencer.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Yeah it does take the edge off the noise for sure.

[@loudamato9480]

They advertise 1300 fps but shoots no where near that

[@shanepitzer4126]

That might be the lightest alloy pellet, at sea level, on a hot day.....grin

[@loudamato9480]

@@shanepitzer4126 bogus advertisement in my opinion, nobody wants a gun saying 1300fps from a brand that doesn’t even sell pellets availably that can shoot that speed let alone anywhere close. I was shooting 25 grain jsb hollow points out of my .22 magnum gen3 do you think that’s enough to kill a raccoon or should I use smaller pellets for more penetration

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@loudamato9480 I've never tried 25grain. Maybe test it on a board or something for penetration. I would imagine it will work, but always a good idea to test penetration on a few random things.

[@hawkboy1792]

1600fps is faster than some 45-70 loads. 768fps is slower than some 39 special loads. What a lie for velocity ratings

[@shanepitzer4126]

I think the 1600 fps is for the .177 cal, and alloy pellets. Still seems optimistic.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Nice enjoy and yep I subscribed 👍😉

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thanks for watching and subscribing, glad you enjoyed the vid!

[@DefundTheFringes]

Sounds like a ricochet right out of the barrel on some.

[@shanepitzer4126]

Those were ricocheting off the ground. I heard them too.

[@Bob-gn8ph]

❤John 3,16 ❤

[@roberthathaway7958]

No sights no good what the hell good is it with no sights

[@shanepitzer4126]

Great observation, thanks for sharing!

[@johndoee3850]

To heavy, cannot expect that velocity.

[@shanepitzer4126]

I didn't go into the test with any expectations. I know from experience that thinner air at elevation always robs power from a break-barrel. There's no way around it. It is what it is. Thanks for watching and sharing a comment.

[@roberthathaway7958]

Why is there no sights if the scope fails it is worthless think about the future worthless

[@shanepitzer4126]

That's good to know, thanks!

[@roberthathaway7958]

Agin no sights worthless no good

[@shanepitzer4126]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@thomascarboni7727]

Bel video

[@shanepitzer4126]

Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!