We 3D print brake pads for a Lada

[@mrrooter601]

Wish the Ultran pads got tested a second run, to see if they had better performance broken in.

[@MadScientist267]

*Definitely* I don't see it as a replacement for cars but in smaller and lower speed/stake use cases, absolutely

[@teardowndan5364]

Definitely. You need to brake hard a couple of times to fully bed new pads into the rotors even with the real things. No point in doing that with PETG and GF-nylon which melted faster than this could happen but CF-nylon looked like it could handle it.

[@3n3ly7m9]

@@MadScientist267 Those would be cool to use in a Go-kart or something similar, considering they ere able to stop a 2,000lb Lada. They should have no trouble stopping something weighing only 300lbs. Would make for a great replacement in systems where they no longer produce the pads, or something to save some money on

[@MadScientist267]

@@3n3ly7m9 It's less the weight and more the energy in play. A car and a gokart will be using radically different amounts of energy. The only problem with printed brakes that I see is in the very nature of both anything [plastic] printed and the idea that brakes produce lots of heat. In a nutshell, "heat melts the filament to begin with, and brakes make more heat than that"... if you think fade is bad with traditional materials...... So to deal with a car, you'd make them bigger, and for a gokart they wouldn't need to be as robust... but both cases would need a way to deal with heat buildup. Brakes get hot enough just in normal driving to turn those into soup just like the hot end did to make them... Not an effect that will be visible with just a single run like in the video. I do think it would still have use but I'd want to see a set absolutely tortured before I trusted the idea to do anything real. The gokart? Haha why not, go ahead and print em on up... I'd roll those.

[@arthurmann578]

@@MadScientist267 Yup! Heat's the real killer here! It IS supposed to melt with high heat or your 3D printer couldn't use it, and brake pads produce a LOT of friction heat! Those special plastic filament materials are made with strength in mind and NOT really heat resistance. They are getting better and better though and hopefully something with BOTH properties in mind will eventually be available to try on "crazy" experiments here soon! 👍👍

[@retrocompaq5212]

lets do a plastic brake test right in front of a pile on shipping containers... lol

[@davekauffman8727]

I work with plastics, that glass filled nylon is really durable, it is used for the chassis of some car vacuum cleaners, and even more stressful applications. I'm most impressed with Lada brake pad retainers, that's a very easy change, I wish American cars had that!

[@TopiasSalakka]

Those pad retainers are only easy when they're not rusted shut, then they're a nightmare. Haven't owned a Lada, but a Mazda i had used a similar retaining mechanism, and i had to take the car to a shop where they pushed the pins out with a hydraulic press and even that took ages.

[@michaelbuckers]

Injection molded plastic with glass/carbon filling is not really comparable to 3d filament "reinforced" with those. With injection molding, you use long strands that increase strength substantially by bearing the load. In 3d filament that prints out of 0.4mm nozzles, the strands are chopped to such tiny lengths that they're basically dust and don't actually carry any load. Mechanical properties testing of these materials reveals that they're very marginally better than plain plastics, if at all. Carbon filling greatly increases UV resistance but beyond that it's a huge waste of money.

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

Toyota trucks use that caliper design, in the front. Way easy to replace pads on.

[@NoOne-ef7yu]

​@@michaelbuckerscarbon filling increases the stiffness of the part quite significantly. They also tend to do a bit better at higher temperatures and are more resistant to creep. Tensile strength is about the same, though.

[@Boodieman72]

That's because Lada is based on a 1950's Fiat.

[@succuvamp_anna]

The G in PETG means Glycol, so it extrudes easier through the nozzle, it's pretty much a lubricant.

[@5.43v]

You can 3d print with normal PET, it's just harder to get and you have to print at a hotter temperature

[@Colorado_Native]

Make brake pads out of cement. That would be fun. (Edit, how about made of JB-Weld high temperature?)

[@KunalVaidya]

3d printer tech is really useful , especially with the different materials that are possible. metal 3d printing can even made custom parts designed only for your specification

[@mrrooter601]

plus 3d print wax to cast metal is way easier than alternatives.

[@AnalogDude_]

Bugatti makes parts for cars using 3D metal printing.

[@onestopfabshop3224]

Porche 3D prints their racing pistons. The video is on KZbin. It's cool how light they can make them with a honeycomb structure infill. No other manufacturing practice can make them that way. I find it very interesting and cool.

[@mikehannahs]

So watching this has the wheels in my head turning again, something that you could try to do is print out some cam shafts using the same material you used here, maybe even try printing out a timing chain it’s self, I really appreciate you guys, you are doing stuff that I’ve always dreamed of doing but I never had the funds to do it, watching you guys doing this stuff makes me proud and saves me money 😂 thank you all for doing what you do, I always look forward to seeing the next video

[@Athiril]

Assuming any material would be strong enough, the temperature would be too and would twist soon as it hits glass transition temperature. Polycarbonate might be strong enough, glass transition tqemp 147 Celsius

[@volvo09]

I am very surprised by the carbon infused plastic. I didn't expect any to really work, nevermind working that good.

[@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r]

Looks like if they had time to seat in they would work as well as the original, at least for the first time or two you use it or until they get hot.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

well carbon doesnt really melt, at least not at any temperature we can achieve which makes it the perfect material for high friction high heat tasks.

[@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r]

@@King_Flippy_Nips Not really sure how dense it is with carbon though. It is still some kind of meltable polymer base material though or it couldn't be printed.

[@mjodr]

@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r Exactly. The binder it is in, nylon, melts at WAY lower temps. This is a joke

[@fawazalfridy5940]

One of the most beautiful and enjoyable channels and the origin of your creativity. Greetings to you from Saudi Arabia🌹👍

[@jasondunken]

the carbon on steel backing plates would be interesting. or the carbon for the friction surface of a clutch disk.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

yea, carbon almost doesnt have a melting point it is so high, it is the perfect material to use where high heat is involved

[@ShyGuyMafia]

You should try printing a clutch pad, and maybe even consider exotic filaments, such as brass-filled, stone filled, and ceramic filled filaments! If you do that, please use a hardened steel nozzle, or your brass one will die!

[@arthurmann578]

I think they did something with making a clutch pad a while back. I think I'll go and maybe watch it again.....👍👍

[@FUCKDSS]

Death to the brass ... and print quality .... whoops 😅

[@Nickwillfixit]

So you should have 3D printed rotors to try against the printed brake pads.

[@XdewGaming]

I think they will just break off when the real brake pads pushes on them with hydraulics

[@ozzesty7314]

​@XdewGaming Maybe, but it will be entertaining.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

@@XdewGaming if you use carbon fibre with the fibres made from glass created in a vacuum chamber the glass strands will be stronger than steel since the vacuum pulls out the air bubbles and moisture which is what makes glass brittle, glass itself can be stronger than steel.

[@mjodr]

@@King_Flippy_Nips Carbon fiber is not made from glass

[@Iowa599]

Need to use a thermoset resin instead of thermoplastic. Like bakelite, impregneted with the dust from around your bench grinder, but a higher ignition temperature & will not melt! 3D print a mold for it… …then melt the thermoplastic mold to remove & test the JB Weld brake pad.

[@MarcosGuilhen]

Funny how he fastened the seatbelt after PETG test hahaha

[@sweetcarbro]

I've been enjoying these science videos, or what I call "what if" videos 😆! Keep up the awesome work, and look forward to future testing

[@AndrewTSq]

The more I watch these videos, the more I want a Lada :) I dont care if they are not fast, not luxery. I just want to ride it. Everything is so mechanical, I love it.

[@xdevs23]

Very cool video! I love 3D printing and it's cool to see that you're trying it out. Please test the Ultran pads again after being broken in, it would probably show us better results since there would be more contact surface. As for new ideas: How about making a wheel? The rims could be carbon-reinforced nylon and the tires could be black TPU.

[@GrugBug-f7j]

Solid! Top KEK! Peace be with you.

[@MsTatakai]

Dayum... amazing... i love this type of channels !!

[@moefuggerr2970]

Print the rotor for a small blower or pro charger. Or even the entire thing. See if it speeds up that car.

[@make-it-work4u]

Id like to see copper pads or bronze pads would be cool and probably work well since there softer than steel and will still handle high heat

[@zf9903]

Make a six axle car with the very rearmost axle driven by external linkage like a train

[@bmint]

3d printing is becoming pretty awesome ❤

[@ramongonzalez2909]

Y’all should make a light 4 person pedal powered lada.

[@cheulesyigess1187]

Vlad discovered a seatbelt!

[@Terny228]

Maybe I am watching all your programs too much since discovering your channel ❤️ seem to remember a bright spot outside called the sun ;)

[@jer1776]

I'd love to see some 3D printed metal break pads, theres some 3D printers which can print metal instead of plastic.

[@theshadowswithin9896]

I've thought about trying to 3D print my own snorkel intake for my truck. You should try that and an intake manifold.

[@descent8275]

i scanned my engine bay with photogrammetrie and build a pre turbo intake for my nissan s13 in CAD. worked out great! material is ASA, so i'm a little bit worried about heat. but so far it holds up, no racetrack use yet, just some german autobahn runs and couple of burn outs haha

[@niftyjig]

Every few episodes, these guys get closer and dangerously closer to doing legit scientific research.

[@rfiskillingussoftly6568]

Great work guys!

[@nikolaiylimys]

Make the brake rotors from those same materials and watch them melt together as you brake 😂

[@busyguy7479]

as usual another great video with you guys having fun , but i agree do not use the petg pads. anyway do some more testing the ultran pads they look like you could have something there. your videos are a breath of fresh air keep them coming its a pleasure watching them all kudos.

[@TheLermaJ]

Should try resin 3d printing. It uses UV LIGHT instead of heat to create the objects

[@aaronscrewface]

You should try and 3D print as many individual parts of a Lada as realistically possible and assemble the car with as many of those pieces as you can to see how much weight it would cut down on the car and how strong it would be overall :)

[@dimitar4y]

no? plastic is extremely expensive in terms of weight. sheet metal and fibre panels are probably 30-40 times lighter per strength than plastic

[@onestopfabshop3224]

I think PLA would have done better then PETG. PETG is kind of soft and rubbery compared to a good hard PLA, even though PLA glass transitions at a lower temp.I'm constantly impressed with some PLAs out there.

[@MattyEngland]

Great content as always

[@twinstickpete]

Hahahaaaa, Vlad... Hunting for Potatoes!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gsestream]

carbon fiber reinforced plastic, maybe put some steel rebar mesh inside the carbon pads, from cast plastic. try carbon/graphene mixed casein plastic

[@LiveWire_Guy]

Something is going to be out of whack, you say? Perhaps Vlad?

[@hamstirrer6882]

Need to do discs out of same material too then test both together

[@SryImMinimal0815]

4:58 i like the fake "Diamond " Antenna holder named "Dianond"

[@kiqnkf]

Judging by some of the stopping distances - you could call them "G54 BrownStuffs" I'd be shitting myself testing them.

[@Boodieman72]

Carbon is used in brakes already so it's not a surprise they did well.

[@HomeGrownZoneHGZTV]

😂 You guys are killing me!

[@TwinShards]

3D Print Caliper Piston with this carbon re-enforced stuff. What if you got a nitwit breaking their piston but they don't want to buy a whole new caliper? Just 3D print the piston ;)

[@palexandre1883]

they could test making transmission axle , semi axis and other parts from that carbon reinforced plastic !

[@VintageCR]

friction causes heating causes melting plastics :) extreme heat resistant plastic work best

[@ameenm7576]

You could use the cross drilled rotors with those pads and try again

[@pontiacrye7318]

carbon reinforced valves, pistons, or rods would be interesting to see, valves or pistons might melt though, but who knows for sure. Aluminum valves survived after all.

[@ronamer1]

they should have made a few passes, instead of just one. would have seen the guy with the squirts come out of the outhouse a few more times.

[@amaldeep1182]

How about making a piston made of plastic ?

[@StayMadNobodycares]

Glass pads would be interesting.

[@jonrob4675]

Nice work

[@communalnoodle1356]

I'd love to see Carbon Reinforced nylon gear set in a gearbox.

[@johnjelinek-g7b]

HAHAHA, I thought they'd all turn to snot . lol Surprising . :)

[@ImigrentfromMars]

cut a grove in the best set and then put a strip of winter tire tread in it, The soft rubber should hold onto the rotor and the plastic pad part should be good to hold it, Not to big a strip or the rubber will just lock up the wheel rather than slow it

[@fastinradfordable]

Tire would be on fire in seconds

[@FreeLovingAmerican]

Need repeat use on functional ones for brake fade testing

[@eggleg1411]

multiple brakes on one rotor

[@White000Crow]

You should try serrated tool steel pads or knurled.

[@apachelives]

Make the rotor out of brake pad material or better yet a clutch disk and use metal brake pads.

[@lincolnbliss4885]

Try 3d printed pistons

[@goclunker]

BMW furiously taking notes on how to make plastic brake pads to go with their plastic cars

[@bmint]

It looks like lada brake pads can be changed with the wheels on?? If that’s a thing, Ladas are awesome!

[@booostdemongarage4827]

U should do a 3d printed rotor with the 3d printed brake pads

[@MsLoneWolf4]

this experiment makes me want to see how 3D printed Transmission gears hold up, maybe possibly be valid alternative to keep manual transmissions going after parts are gone.

[@fastinradfordable]

Transmission gears will never ‘be gone’ BecUse it’s just metal stock with part of it removed.

[@fastinradfordable]

Transmission gears will never ‘be gone’ BecUse it’s just metal stock with part of it removed.

[@fastinradfordable]

Transmission gears will never ‘be gone’ BecUse it’s just metal stock with part of it removed.

[@Universal.G]

Next try different types of cement for brake pads.

[@stephenroetz8550]

Next Project... 3D Print your own LADA

[@patrickbrady447]

Maybe make oil pump gears out of the carbon reinforced nylon and see hoe they go.

[@PlatiniumHunter]

What about gearbox syncrs maded in a 3d Printer? Sounds like a good idea

[@twocvbloke]

PETG may as well have been a couple slices of mousetrap cheese for all the good they did... :P

[@TheMechanicalKoopa]

how about making brake pads out of different metals? Aluminum, brass, copper and so forth. like you did with the pistons.

[@brandonyork4430]

Guy master mechanics it love show keep up great work

[@Kawka1122]

Did you knew that Lada is an owner and main engineering contributor of Mazda

[@busyguy7479]

I also wonder if you print break shoes and test them , just a thought. maybe you could print a carb who knows.

[@scoobysean555]

Be good to see matching printed discs

[@ashhks]

Love your videos 🤩 can you try to run a diesel engine on jet fuel as both types of fuel are flammable if pressurized

[@mytebetme]

3d printed tire rims, 3d printed differential gears, 3d printed driveline, 3d printed valves! That's all for now!

[@TwistedPerceptions01]

Hm, wonder how 3d printed wiper blades would work for cleaning the windshield during a rainstorm with the different materials. Wiper blades these days don't have the quality that they used to once have and don't last nearly as long either.

[@fozzy_shenanigans]

You should try this with yhe drilled rotor experiments

[@ralfhartmann5050]

Guys, you are crazy ... 😂😵‍💫

[@MartijnFoxField]

Prusa has filament with Tungston in it

[@specter6633]

Redo video. You can print metal and ceramic pads as well as bedding the pads for a second run.

[@GAMINGOBRIEN69]

3d print an entire car

[@easyspanieltraining]

I suspect that you need to print some new underpants for Vlad.

[@themetalslayer2260]

and what about 3D printed rotors with stock pads (these 3 different plastics but instead of using it for pads, use it for rotors)

[@timmturner]

While Ultem (PEI) would have be really expensive I still would like to see the results.

[@dehydratedwater9734]

Make an entire car!

[@andrelange9877]

New title for this video: What happens if inkjet printer cartridge manufacturers start selling brake pads?

[@XdewGaming]

It may be burning, but not melting, some plastics work that way

[@kennethcote3530]

How about some 3-D printed rims?

[@paulmatthysen8775]

3D print rotors and pads

[@FtanmoOfEtheirys]

For Sale: Lada - New Brake Pads 😉

[@MrROTD]

Do metal sintered pads, order them if you dont have the tech to make them.

[@Crediu]

Suggestion remove the rev limiter somehow in your lada

[@digitalchaos1980]

Now please 3D print a clutch disc from the carbon reinforced plastic! 😁

[@Dr._Spamy]

To be printable by a 3d printer, materials must have a relativly low melting point, what's somehow unwanted for brake pads.

[@mjodr]

You seem to be the only person in the comments who realizes that, lol

[@shackledmusic]

3D print an entire engine rebuild

[@ozzesty7314]

I'd like to see fibreglass pads.

[@curtb.9450]

Do a 3D printed engine block and other internal parts

[@dariodzimbeg]

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