We fit high pressure DIESEL pump to Lada engine

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[@MarkoDash]

most mechanics: it doesn't work... why? these guys: it works... why?

[@DrRussian]

Also applies to programmers!

[@comancheclub3449]

Fuckin 💀 🤣

[@Kj16V]

Me too. I'm blown away you can just bolt a diesel pump on a petrol and make it multipoint mechanical fuel injection 🤯

[@Rakettihamsteri]

And then there is people who yapping about "It's gonna break, it can't hold!" *Meanwhile these guys*

[@zacbavdek2818]

You guys really need to invest in a dyno eventually for testing power levels with your crazy contraptions🤔

[@pgarrett6665]

Hub Dyno 😎😃

[@Jon-hm2wu]

It’s about 17 hp I can tell from here

[@jeffnpatricia]

@@Jon-hm2wu 😂 your welcome

[@Aaronkt]

DIY Dyno project ?

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@Aaronkt You read my mind... And I was going to suggest the same, by flipping a Lada over and parking the vehicle on the back wheels lol I have no clue where to go from there, but, Community Think Tank can take it from here... 😁

[@ShmoogleOsukami]

You should totally kit this out and take it to a track, be interesting to see how well it drives there.

[@derkeksinator17]

They should try building an actual racing lada and make a series out of it! Imagine a fuel injected 2L forced induction Lada!

[@daniellee9015]

Brilliant video guys I wonder how it would drive with a turbo from a diesel

[@thomasbedford1258]

i was just thinking the same thing same set-up but just add a turbo lol

[@johnathanmcdoe]

Makes me wonder how much power this engine makes before it comes apart though.

[@aaronhall7740]

You'd need to add a booster valve for extra fuel or else things would melt quick I'd say haha

[@austinmaxi]

@@aaronhall7740 it has that built into the pump already.. that ufo looking bit on the top of the pump adds more fuel when on boost..

[@jwalster9412]

@@johnathanmcdoe atleast 50% more that stock, unless these engines han handle more tourqe than is there from factory.

[@jamesadams2333]

This is the sort of thing I’ve always wanted to do to see if it worked in theory. Garage54 does all the amazing stuff my mind conjures up. This shows high pressure port injection works. No need for complicated direct injection! Direct injection pressure, emissions cleanliness, and efficiency without expensive annoyingly complex fuel injectors that break. Pay attention car manufacturers, you guys over complicate everything! Garage 54 is on to something! Amazing work again.

[@raven4k998]

yeah, it does work just that it's not optimized for it that's all

[@fry.master]

mercedes did this in the 80s before they decided to go to common rail efi like the rest of the world, they already milked this idea for its worth. Sorry to ruin your idea, the germans had it a long time ago

[@jamesadams2333]

I’ll assume you’re referring to the 300 series diesel OM617’s. Those cars are amazing and my childhood favorites. My folks owned a few of em.

[@fry.master]

@@jamesadams2333 no, gasoline engines, look up k jetronic and how it works.

[@jasonbirch1182]

It would be interesting to run it with a wideband sensor to see if it's going rich and lean at different RPMs and loads. I mean really it has to be if the injection pump throttle is not being changed.

[@Stoney3K]

And add a stepper motor servo on the mixture control to run closed loop from a microcontroller, just for good measure?

[@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499]

Are you guys in the right channel? Sensors? We don't use this here. lol

[@siraff4461]

Thats not a throttle as such. Its an enrichment device. It decides how much fuel you get per revolution so presuming the car needs a certain % of fuel at a given rpm and that doesn't change (it wouldn't on a petrol since stoic is always the same) then if its right at one rpm it will be right all the way up - or very, very close depending on how the thermal efficeincy changes based on air speed and volume.

[@SF-dy6hn]

I think it's all about the speed and timing. By getting the correct amount of fuel into the cylinder almost instantly after the compression stroke, the fuel has more time to mix with oxygen in the down stroke it creates a vacuum and force mixes the oxidizer and fuel even more thoroughly it's like a secondary atomizer similar to experiments when water boils at room temperature under a vacuum the gasoline is locked in place and evaporating.

[@Stoney3K]

@@SF-dy6hn The mixture control on the pump controls the cam timing which opens the valves to the injectors inside the pump. A longer opening angle on the cam means the injector will be open for longer, and more fuel per stroke, hence a richer mixture.

[@fry.master]

this was exactly how 80s mercedes fuel injection on their 6 and 8 cylinder usdm cars worked, they used a sort of "scale" as a throttlebody, mounted on the top of the pump. The farther down that plunger moved due to vaccum, the longer duration the mechanical injectors would spray. Very simple physics in hindsight, as our boy Vlad here showed us he got a hand for doing literally with his fingers!!!

[@josefkeitell6946]

Awesome! At diesel fuel pressures, (1800 to 2000 psi), the gas is instantly turned to a fog that mixes perfectly with all the air it can get. Put the electric turbo on it and hang on.

[@Wagonman5900]

Mechanical fuel injection Garage 54 style. Great stuff. Getting rid of the stock restrictive carb is always a win.

[@teagreen2220]

The spray of the fuel at high pressure drags air in the cylinder with it. Supercharging effect!

[@jasonkuehl639]

I'd love to see what these guys could do with a 2.3 Ford Lima engine with the 8 plug head!

[@florin26balalau]

That would be nice but those are probably very rare in Russia

[@jasonkuehl639]

@@florin26balalau very true. I know the engine was used worldwide, but I'm not sure how easy they would be to come across outside of the North and South American continents. I honestly don't think these guys would even care to look for one. If I had the skill and abilities they use, as long as I had parts of an engine to start with, it wouldn't matter if it was just a box of random mixed parts, there would be a running engine at the end. 🙂

[@florin26balalau]

@@jasonkuehl639 this definitely was a good experiment that's for sure

[@mjmorrill081]

I just want you guys to know how much me has an American appreciate your channel. It is great fun to watch you guys make up some totally bizarre car ideas. As a regular American I have absolutely no issue with the Russian people. I have long collected Soviet watches, and Soviet space history. Yuri Gagarin was one of my boyhood heroes. But I must ask that you please talk to you government and ask them do not use any kind of nuclear weapons. This would end the planet for all of us. So if you'd be so kind would you please petition your government to not use the nuclear option. I don't know if you can do this safely. But if you can we need to solve this as a people. The US, Russia, China, India, Australia, and Europe must work together to save our planet. Especially so we can have fun stuff like your videos to be enjoyed by all. Thank you and keep up the great work!

[@Zeeos27]

For a moment I thought they were doing a bad conversion to a diesel engine, but I was surprised, and I could see the expression of happiness on your face! Glad it turned out so well, I loved it! Now put the injectors instead of the spark plugs, diesel fuel, increase the compression and you will get a diesel Lada!

[@raven4k998]

I would love to see that now converting a gas engine to diesel would be cool to watch

[@Zeeos27]

@@raven4k998 In my country that is something that was done very often a few years ago, for example in the 6-cylinder engines of the old mustangs (here they were from a national Falcon) increasing the compression and placing injectors (in the place where the spark plugs were) and diesel injection pump for trucks with low displacement engines and tuning it for the new engine.

[@raven4k998]

@@Zeeos27 just be careful of scammers if you have a diesel that try to charge you for replacing your spark plugs on your diesel engine cause that's a scam scammer like to try hoping you'll fall for it and pay for something you don't actually need cause diesels don't have spark plugs

[@thegreatcornholiofb3037]

Vlad doesn't get near the recognition he deserves for teaching these kids! 🏆

[@rkzooplays]

Who cares

[@vincentas1]

He is exploiting free labour, like my grandpa, who made his students practice building homes for him :)

[@Me-zo8yc]

@@vincentas1 Then they used the skills they learned to earn money.

[@derkaderkastan420]

So reversing the throttle setup to where the pump is adjust to your door pedal and your air intake is wide open will make that car extremely efficient.

[@kentauree]

You need to link throttle and fuel pump together so that it gets more air when it gets more fuel.

[@simplybeanjelly]

I'm certain the atomization of the fuel from the port injection and diesel injectors is much better than a stock carbureted lada engine, letting the engine make more power and be more efficient

[@jameshathaway5117]

An afr gague is this cars best friend. This thing is bound to digest internals if run lean for extended periods. Truly amazing how wide of an a/f ratio a gas engine can run on.

[@Simi370]

It would be very interesting to test it on a dyno and compare it with an unmodified engine to see how much extra you gain.

[@aliabdallah102]

I'm just glad this channel can still exist.

[@rekleif]

I'll download "Hunting Clash" just to support the great injustice we in the west are putting you trough. Thanks for still putting out great videos despite the difficulties you o trough. Love and God bless from Norway.

[@Maxel.F]

great you reinvented fuel injection(witch came before common rail), witch is impressive

[@kolinevans9127]

I was like 'a pump's? But I can see it's a whole intake injection control module that is mechanical & includes a high pressure pump, great engineering I learned something.

[@nilghost5960]

I think you'll find that running 2 stroke fuel also adds more power because you are increasing the available energy of the fuel.

[@vincepalaa]

Basically a manually adjustable-on-the-fly jetted carb. Or variable CC injectors. Cool concept.

[@danielclifton6140]

Some ford escorts in the 80s toyed with mechanical pumps, they worked fairly well but was overly complicated by the time injection was needed for emission and started to faulter with emissions

[@Stale_Mahoney]

would be fun to put it on a dyno to see what power it makes compared to chucking a carb on it again

[@Marc_Wolfe]

Oil in the gas lubes the cylinders better. Oil also contains more chemical energy but is harder to burn. Add some oil to a stock vehicle, bet you'll notice similarities to this setup. And the high pressure injectors probably atomize the fuel better.

[@CarlPapa1990]

You need massive amounts of air for diesel fuel to properly combust. More air and fuel means higher revs and power

[@ericowens7205]

Hey guys in my life.I have never thought about visiting Russia.Or having any reason to. Then I've seen your show and I absolutely love Russia now. I had an idea and a question. Leaf blower supercharger!! Also what does adding two stroke oil to the gas do to a 4 stroke eng? 2 stroke Lada? I love you guys, keep up the good work 👏. P.S. trade me presidents please.

[@mastercricket7626]

super cool guys.... you should try a diesel turbo on the Lada .... that would be wild to see it hit boost and the pump would keep enuf fuel for it ..... rad guys peace n love stay safe n build on

[@mick00000000002]

So like a cdi system. Spay into a little tank then to the cylinder. Old school 👍 yes understand 😊 apparente up loads. Mick Australia 🇦🇺

[@jec_ecart]

Those springs to hold the pump look great.

[@quevicular]

FIT A STANDARD TRANSMISSION TO THE BACK OF AN AUTOMATIC!!

[@rkzooplays]

Yooo that would be cool

[@Me-zo8yc]

😂 how did you think of this?

[@quevicular]

@@Me-zo8yc I dont understand why they havent tried this yet

[@Me-zo8yc]

@@quevicular It's insanely genius or geniusly insane

[@quevicular]

@@Me-zo8yc Why thank you. Dont know if it would burn out the syncros at all. Might have some impact on them. You could run super hi gearing in it and still have many lower gears to be in almost crawl mode. Dont need overdrive and all the compoohter crap neither

[@pistonsjem]

you guys need to get yourself those air fuel ratio AFT meters! makes fuel tuning way easier

[@benmartin6476]

Should have done like Oldsmobile back in the day and use the spark plug hole to fit the injectors, upped the compression and ran it on diesel

[@ehmjauhh5495]

These pumps are designed to squird at top dead centre before tje powerstroke, you should advance it 360 degrees.

[@Monni95]

Turning on the heater obviously avoids the engine overheating when you run the engine on high revolutions for extended period of time...

[@adnanmlivo5885]

Gas engines use throttle blades to regulate the amount of air going in to the engine thus regulate engine speed. Diesels use fuel flow to regulate engine speed so they do not need a throttle blade. Next interesting experiment i would do it so link the throttle blade and the pump so you are not constantly full fuel. That would give you a leaner burn(more power)/less fuel consumption/smoother running engine.

[@arthurbeowulfe7339]

Well what most people don't understand about a diesel is that when those injectors fire it is literally on the power stroke or at least at the end of the compression stroke the beginning of the power stroke is when it feeds fuel to the cylinder not like on a gasoline engine where to fuel is fed in through the intake stroke on a diesel if fuel is fed into the engine at the end of the compression stroke in the beginning of the power stroke

[@saaliegmomath197]

I couldn't stop stressing about that chain snapping and taking his hand 🙈,... #be safe

[@twocvbloke]

If you used something like the vacuum advance or the like to adjust the injector pump to supply varying fuel amounts (E.G. lower fuel at idle, more at full throttle), you could improve the power across the rev range, making this lada an even more powerful lunatic car... :P

[@Zach-ju5vi]

I gotta say this channel is incredibly innovative.

[@brianholcomb6499]

The same thing was done by Audi/Volkswagen decades ago! Except their pump & throttle body worked together with a linkage!

[@svytorioalus]

Now all u need is to mill cylinderhead down to max that you can then install diesel injector in place of spark plugs and run on diesel.

[@RegalCobra097]

I think 1-3-4-2 is a very common firing order for a 4 cylinder. That's why it was the same.

[@xXTheLordDarkXx]

if you put a turbo increasing pressure will balance lower compression ratio

[@lesliefouquetviboud8618]

multifuel engine, genius at works

[@SDKwarrior]

20:38 voiceover did that guy dirty lmao

[@WizenedVariations1]

Very nice job! One of your best.

[@communalnoodle1356]

I'd love to see this setup with a supercharger on it with this pump setup

[@peterjohn3180]

You must still have enough fuel at high rpm, I am surprised that the governor didn't make it lean. As far as extra power goes - you have a big throttle body, more airflow than carburettor, try fitting your own separate throttle bodies?

[@kaboooom2000uk]

There may be a governor in the fuel injection pump to limit fuel and stop over revving.

[@n0n0n0n0]

Man i hope you guys test drive that thing its running better than stock

[@Leoburket]

Manual Air fuel mixture .. have to link them together and synchronize them .. throttle on the fuel no air it’s running rich , open air no fuel then running lean

[@HiramJonesjr-dx8tl]

Even mixture of fuel and air

[@TheRealHypervizor]

Direct port injection. The benefits of both applications. Manufactures take note.

[@ChickenwithaHelmet]

Always loved mechanical fuel systems, both in gas and diesel engines.

[@bill6255]

Bravo - Serious skills!

[@alvasingh8054]

Exellent work these are some of my ideas glad to see someone bringing it to reality, what you need to perfect it is a fuel pressure regulator on the return side to maintain the correct fuel pressure and atomization, as it is now too much fuel is returning to the tank , also the intake and throttle body is too big you are loosing torque , blessings to you all.

[@Helloworld-lg6zm]

Other channels: Don't try this at home This channel: You should definitely try this at home.

[@jasonbirch1182]

You need a mechanical airflow meter to actuate the throttle on the injection pump.

[@lemons3738]

always wondered if this was possible. I've thought for years that a ford 4.9L inline 6 converted to diesel would be interesting. Maybe even a ford 4.6 or 5.4 could possibly just shave the heads and block to get compression necessary. a diesel v8 that revs like a mercedes om606 would be something...

[@adammartin4906]

I love these guys they help me see all my crazy ideas happen in real time amazing how like minds come together🏴‍☠🏴‍☠

[@andythesoupdragon]

8:47 it actually sounds like a diesel!

[@Wollemand]

You can get any Lada to “sound like” a diesel.. Just loosen the chain tightner😀

[@byronnelson1556]

You may need to have an intake heater in cold weather.

[@richardparker56]

More fuel = you need more air. Add nitrous and tune it! Let’s see what happens!! Won’t last long but will be fun until it melts!!! 😁👍

[@nagyandras8857]

weeeeeel if you would add a servo to adjust that diesel fuel pump, and have some wide band sensors and an ardunio to tune the system to a given lambda of 0.8-0.9, it would be quite some epic thing, i mean , you would make a shitload of power and make it run very efficient.

[@carrizog60]

How about sincronize de pump lever with the intake butterbly? Should be more economical too!

[@mabisfab77paintball]

biggest issue for lada was recharging its own battery and timing chain guides falling and the chain beating holes in the side of the engine

[@steveyoutube3902]

I would consider using it as a personal car. (super lada!!) :) You guys do some amazing experiments!!!

Ideia for video: replace the crankpins in a crankshaft by ball bearings

[@alanspangler5621]

I wonder how much of a power increase it gave. You should find a dyno to test it. Maybe install a stock induction setup temporarily for comparison.

[@ДанаилПетров-т9и]

now you should turbocharge it while with the diesel pump and make it a GTi (Gasoline Turbo Ingection) :D

[@mbmann3892]

11:13 I Think the intake can’t draw in enough air, to maintain a proper mixture. It’s flooding IMO

[@Mercmad]

Nothing new here. A company called GutBrod in Germany built the first fuel injected car using exactly the same style of bosch pump and thousands of Mercedes up to 1972 were sold with mechanical fuel injection,even Aston Martin sold a DBSV8 with mechanical injections. It's a great idea because the injection runs at 200PSi at the injectors.

[@lescobrandon2202]

Good stuff!

[@user-kr6yj4rh1l]

Big round of applause to you , very funny stuff ..keep it up . 🇬🇧🧐

[@paul707.7]

Its works like fuel injection brother.

[@gameeverydaygamer3527]

now you need to warm it up on gas and try switching to diesel ad see if it will run

[@Dr_Mario2007]

There are a few newer gasoline-fueled diesel engines which actually run on gasoline, yet like its counterpart that runs off fuel oil, they tend to run pretty lean which hot air is just enough to combust the fuel during the power stroke cycle - the only difference between both diesel engines running different fuel is injection timing, due to the fact that gasoline is a little bit stubborn owing to the anti-knock agents added to it, so it has to be forced somehow, usually by pushing the main injection against the pilot injection timing so gasoline finally burns via compression ignition. The electronic diesel injection system on gasoline-fueled diesel engines aren't very much different from the original diesel engines, just there is an exception, and that's the software running on diesel engine computer which is programmed differently from the de facto diesel engine software. And as for port injection system, it's somewhat touchy as it has to have a little bit more fuel than the diesel injection pump can provide, and fuel injection is usually metered every time the injectors fires - you can get away with that just directly injecting the gasoline directly into the cylinders (via direct gasoline injection setup).

[@tristan6509]

I'm pretty sure this dedign is a century old, there were lots of old tractors that ran on both gasoline and kerosene. You start with gasoline and turn on the spark plugs, once the engine is hot enough you can switch to kerosene and turn off the spark plugs.

[@meusana3681]

Its not the pump, its the massive throttle body that's giving it the breathing room.

[@ludditeneaderthal]

You've basically reinvented the system used by the old drag racing injection systems.

[@Todd-go2lw]

You should add a turbo to it and see what it will do

[@SI00000]

Are we looking at the makings of a new engine design?

[@hiscifi2986]

I think the seals in a Diesel DPA will perish with petrol, especially Ethanol petrol.

[@davejnathan10]

Kinda remind me with mercedes 300sl gullwing's engine 😂😂 direct injection system straight from the diesel pump

[@evanwoodward9732]

You would need higher compression and direct injection, so that the piston not drawing in AF on the intake stroke. and so it has high enough compression to ignite the fuel with out spark plugs. Also the injector are open for a much shorter time on direct injection probably why you need to add 75% fuel

[@V8Lenny]

Then it would be diesel engine.

[@tristan6509]

@@V8Lenny no it would be a modern gasoline engine New gasoline engines use this method, they call it GDi or PDi but instead of a mechanical fuel pump, it's controlled by the ECU.

[@V8Lenny]

@@tristan6509 they have spark plugs for ignition. HCCI engines are only prototypes.

[@skyline34gtr58]

Now turbo that lada

[@blackterminal]

they should take this to a track

[@mahindrathar4092]

What if we add a turbo to this setup 😎 insanely mad

[@tomaszbudnik521]

Guys gasoline engine not like diesel need CORRECT amount of fuel and air. This is so called stoichiometric mixture. If there is to much of air or fuel engine will not produce full throttle and power. This is why it have throttle valve and computer callcullating how much fuel is need to burn properly. This is so called AFR (air fuel ratio).

[@malchone1]

Good job.But,high pressure pump uses diesel for lubrication also.Gasoline is to harsh and that pump will not last long.Anyway entertaining video.

[@geraldito7777]

Youll need a old trhoutle bosh. The mecanic door

[@brentschuler2795]

Could of made an adapter to thread the injector in the spark plug hole

[@sergiosolis4538]

This is cool. I was thinking 🤔 that if you run a cable from the throttle to the injection pump regulator control, it might be possible to regulate the enrichment of the fuel to correspond with the amount of air that goes into the engine, for mixture control.

[@andrewschmitt5792]

Would it be possible to convert a Lada engine to diesel? If so give it a shot :)

[@cousinjohncarstuff4568]

Make a clear plastic intake for a GDI engine. How dirty does it get after being driven for several hundred miles, and do any of the intake spray cleaners actually clean the gunk off the intake? Always wondered that myself....

[@giannamolinari3065]

это похоже на двигатель маленького самолета, где у вас есть один рычаг, который вы нажимаете для подачи топлива, а другой - для подачи воздуха. может можно все автоматизировать? попытка не повредит. (я итальянец)