Rogue Fitness VS REP Fitness: The Best Home Gym Equipment Company Is…

[@REPfitness]

Some good insights here. However, some points need additional clarification and counter-points. REP is a family owned business, and while we have always invested into R&D, we really beefed up our quality team, engineering team, and our entire business the last few years. We have continued to push the envelope and have no plans to stop. We consider Rogue a great competitor and someone we respect as well. No bad blood as Coop mentioned. Clarifications... 1) This must have been filmed awhile ago, as we launched our new barbells weeks ago and they have a similar lifetime warranty. We never really took a deep dive into barbells until recently, and we are really happy with our new lineup of bars. We showcased these at the Arnold Sports Festival and Home Gym Con and had great feedback. They should start making their way out in the wild in the next handful of weeks. 2) Neither us or Rogue have been around for decades as Coop mentions at @3:12. Rogue was established in 2008 vs us in 2012. A 4 year difference. 3) Coop is right in saying that our innovations have been more in-house. We haven't absorbed other companies, designs, or manufacturing existing products to push our innovation forward. Designing equipment in-house takes longer, but we believe ultimately leads to the best products. 4) Our upright measurements are 75mm x 75mm which is 2.95"... so super close to 3". People have added something similar small to make other companies attachments fit, like felt tape. Regarding the price comparisons... I think some clarification is necessary. 1) Most people are buying a rack that is beyond the bare bones uprights and crossmembers. When you start adding attachments, that is where the price difference becomes even greater. It's also where we shine with our cable attachments like the Athena, Ares, and more. The price difference is even bigger when comparing the PR-5000 vs Monster. For example: spotter arms for that series - $210 vs ~$350 - A 60% difference. 2) The dumbbells is an interesting one that I think was a bit misleading - note: we have free shipping so rogue is estimated. When comparing the common 5-50 with our fully knurled dumbbells it's $1100 vs ~$1300 so a $200 difference. 5-75 is $2,280 vs ~$2,600+ so a $300+ difference. Finally the 5-100 set is $3600 vs ~$4250 which is about a $650 difference. It's extremely rare for anyone to buy a 2.5lb to 125lb with increments of 2.5 up to 30lbs as described - especially for a home gym. The full sets that are common purchases are better examples. Other examples... Safety squat bars... $330 vs ~$540 BlackWing Bench vs Manta Ray... $600 vs $1,070 AB-5000 ZeroGap vs AB3.... $600 vs $1200 If you're outfitting a home gym, we should typically come in hundreds if not thousands cheaper depending on what you get. To say that it "may" be a little bit cheaper... is a bit inaccurate. Having said that, we still stake someone's purchasing decision on innovation, value, customer support. No one beats us when considering all three.

[@weejitwill]

REP has literally entered the chat lol

[@blakemcclary3380]

Congrats on the new bar launches! I'm trying to make a decision on a DL bar that I'll be picking up soon. Can you pretty please add or respond w/ the inside length dimension from collar to collar on the Hades bar? To me, it is an important dimension for a DL bar. I see you have sleeve and overall, but I don't know how thick the collars are so I can't deduce the math. If I'm missing it somewhere on your site, please fact check me. Thanks for all of what your team does!

[@psykalag]

Lots of great points. I totally agree that the ares takes reps innovation to a whole new level. With that said, I purchased an ares and pr5000 recently and I had some questions that I emailed in and just never got a response on. After 3 emails, I finally called and connected to someone who was able to help me. Also, when I made my area/pr5000 purchase, the spotter arms were out of stock. I tried to use my points to purchase them, but was told I couldn't use more than $100 worth of points in a single transaction, even though I just dropped 5k...while I understand the terms of the rewards system, I was nonetheless disappointed

[@johnbrodie9815]

Thanks for clarifying on Coop's points! Seeing the price breakdowns is something I'll definitely be taking into consideration when building my home gym.

[@GenXFitness]

Rep could have flexed a little bit and pointed out that Rogue doesn't have anything close to the Ares/Athena 😆

[@GenXFitness]

As an Ares owner, I believe the Ares and Athena set a new standard for a cable system within a rack. I am seeing a lot of budget racks copy this design. Rogue's slinger is essentially awful in comparison. Rogue has been adding a lot of rack accessories but nothing that's as innovative as the Ares/Athena. I am looking forward to what both companies have to offer in the future.

[@airgordo4]

Ares is just a copy of what bodykraft (and others I’m sure) already had but made to fit 3x3 racks. Budget racks copying that design are just copying the design Rep already copied if that makes sense.

[@GenXFitness]

@@airgordo4 Please provide the link to these "so called products". I just searched for bodykraft and nothing came up, not even a website. Stop making stuff up 😆

[@FitLabb]

@@GenXFitnessI just bought a PR-5000 with the ARES attachment and I agree that it’s the best of both worlds combined into one solid package. I can’t say enough how much I’m loving both, and I’m hardly even using my Cybex Bravo functional trainer anymore now that I have the ARES on the power rack. They definitely knocked it out of the park with that release!

[@GenXFitness]

@@FitLabb First my condolences to your bank account 😂💸 You are going to love it! The Ares is a great gym centerpiece of any gym 👌🏾

[@jugjivan]

The ares itself is a copy of a similar product that was already being sold by their own manufacturer. 😂

[@enriquel1993]

My current setup is all REP and if I had more room then it would continue to be all REP. I wish they would come out with a compact Leg extension/Leg Curl combo.

[@REPfitness]

Rack mounted and bench attachment are both in the prototype phase. Coming soon.

[@jasongoodman4959]

@@REPfitness Another reason to prefer Rep - they respond to people in KZbin comments sometimes! = )

[@avinashtyagi2]

@@REPfitness How will it compare to the Bulletproof Isolator?

[@cody_dsmith]

@@REPfitnessDo you think you’ll make it compatible with Athena and/or Ares? I think a leg ext/leg curl for a home gym that utilizes a cable would really set itself above all of the free weight options on the market given the superior resistance curve.

[@enriquel1993]

@@REPfitness I was thinking more in the lines of a stand-alone plate loaded/selectorized machine. Like a Titan leg Extension/Curl machine but with the taste and character of REP Fitness. I promise it would sell like hot cakes.

[@lmed90]

Rogue has been phenomenal- the quality and overall heritage of quality has been awesome. I prefer the product being built and manufactured in the US and that their customer service is based here. Rep is solid and glad that the competition is tight. Great times for home gym folks.

[@joshuapillar]

Coop, thank you for all the reviews. I was totally going REP fitness after your recommendations, but I'm glad I found the Rogue Monster Lite Half Rack. It doesn't get nearly the love it deserves. Neither does the new Rogue shipping offers. I just bought the Monster Lite Half Rack with the Hybrid power bar, 8 deep dish plates, a full set of steel calibrated change plates (including 25lbs), Thompson Fat Pad bench, and few other goodies. Total shipping cost for everything...$75. I tried building out the same rig with REP and the difference was only a couple hundred bucks. So if you can buy several things at once with your rack, Rogue has narrowed that price gap considerably. Also, the Monster Lite Half Rack comes with some truly nice upgrades like the numbered uprights and included band pegs. After just putting this all together last night, I can say there is nothing "half" or "lite" about this rack and with 24" cross members, I can easily expand this rack into a full Monster Lite rack with storage by just ordering the extra parts from Rogue. ZERO REGRETS!

[@jasongoodman4959]

Other differences not mentioned in the video: * Rep's assembly instructions and processes are generally much better than Rogue's * Rep's marketing is generally way better than Rogue's (Rep: cool trailer videos explaining new gear, photos of people using their stuff on their Instagram / Rogue: Nothing for days, then 100 identical stories in row of just screenshots of new shirt designs) * Rogue is deeper in the CrossFit community if you're into that, and sponsors more fitness events * Rep has more locations for picking up their products in person (in the US) * Rogue used to be more customizable / amenable to one-off requests in general, but I think a lot of that went away during the pandemic

[@jasongoodman4959]

I built my gym in the early pandemic, largely researching through this channel and similar resources like Basement Brandon and Garage Gym Lab. I mostly went with Rogue (aside from the benches). It seemed like the more established brand with more accessories and a stronger ecosystem. At the time, Rep was having some quality issues that made me suspicious of them, like how their strap safeties had failed and their belt squat attachment wasn't very good. But now, I wish I'd gone with Rep. It feels like Rep's quality has improved a lot, and their prices are often better. The biggest thing is the innovative products, though. Rogue's Slinger is embarrassing, and it doesn't seem like it's getting fixed, while Rep has the Ares. Rep has a built in lat pulldown / low row in a space efficient way, and Rogue has nothing like it. Rep keeps coming out with new stuff, and Rogue seems like it's focusing more on aesthetics or the university gym level rather than the home gym consumer. Did we really need a new dip bar instead of a working cable system? I've advised multiple friends to go with Rep, and none of them have regretted it. I hope Rogue sees this video and the comments under it and actually starts trying to innovate again.

[@tier1detailing]

Curious how Reps quality control is today. About 5 years ago I tried their competition and colored bumper plates. The competition plates have been great, however...my grey, 10lb colored bumpers have almost completely discolored to an almost orange tint. Have no idea what could cause that

[@pHaTtY111111111111]

@@tier1detailing don't most comp bumpers come from the same factory in China though?

[@BrandonSchwartz1]

Would you say the slinger with weight stack is a bad option? It’s basically an Athena-style with 1:1 ratio since you can’t have the adjustability of a single stack without 2:1 to allow movement of the pulleys up and down.

[@jasongoodman4959]

@@BrandonSchwartz1 The reviews on the Slinger seem pretty universally negative. I can't even consider it for my situation because of its vertical space requirements. Maybe it's better now that there are weight stacks for it, though? I just ordered the Surplus Strength UPS, which I'm very excited about, because I can fit it and can pair it with a drop-in Rhino for a high/low cable and low row / lat pulldown. It's funny to me though that third party companies are innovating more for Rogue owners than Rogue themselves.

[@BrandonSchwartz1]

@@jasongoodman4959I have the same setup of Rhino and Surplus UPS and I gotta say it’s not the greatest from a smoothness perspective and seated rows kinda feel like garbage. I’d much rather have a selectorized or even the UPS alone is unbelievably smooth feeling since it’s just 2 pulleys. If you wanna use the UPS with the loading pin and ignore the Rhino you’ll need some 1”-2” rubber mats to make it work. Otherwise your loading pin gets all messed up landing on the end of the rhino cable

[@navajasrs2402]

I have a Rep 5000 Ares, Rep adjustable kettlebell, Rep 4100 bench, and a Rogue purchased Nuobell set. The build of all the Rep gear is beyond reproach. However, both companies sent my QC issues. One of my Nuobells was inoperable out of the box. Rogue was friendly over the phone, communicated with the manufacturer on my behalf, and sent out a new adjustable handle. It was smooth, BUT, it the whole process took about a month. Both front lower pulley brackets on my Rep 5000 Ares were, while gorgeous, inoperable. The pulleys themselves were crushed in their housing and impossible to remove. Therefore my $5000 rack was useless. Rep has immediately shipped out two replacement brackets no questions asked. Shipping says it will arrive today. Don’t think you can go too wrong with either company.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Life Fitness and Hammer Strength is the gold standard in my book even though expensive and they have not yet come up with integrated functional cable trainer with their power racks. If they did, that would be my top choice. Wealthy bodybuilders like the Rock use only Hammer Strength and commercial USA made quality but expensive.

[@murdog04]

I just built my home gym and it is almost all REP products. PR-5000 w/the Ares set up. I only have a small space and wanted both a power rack and a functional trainer. The Ares is almost the only option out there when space is limited. I absolutely love my set up. Overall I feel REP products are just more fun. Designs and color options. The PR-5000 and the Blackwing bench are absolute beasts. So well made. I do own a Rogue Ohio Bar and a few sets of collars. Thanks for input Coop. Loved the video.

[@maxguida7766]

If i had to repurchase my entire home gym and could only choose one company, I'd choose REP. That said, there are some things Rogue makes that either REP does not make, or they just make it so much better. Like Coop said, its really product dependent. What i like about REP is that they market directly to home gym users, where Rogue markets more to commercial facilities and their sponsored athletes. You can tell the difference in quality, as Rogue tends to be quite a bit higher in quality, but you just cant beat REPs innovation and home gym focus right now. Their rack attached cable machines are the new gold standard, and no one else is even close.

[@justinlittle5437]

Mostly REP now, but still Rouge barbells.

[@meisdetermined]

Barbells-Rogue Benches-REP New cool stuff-REP Customer Service-tie If I’m gonna spend $5k I’m probably gonna go Rogue because the free shipping makes it easier to go American made and makes the price close enough that I WANT to spend more on American made.

[@ryanunderwood6827]

Depends on the bar - for me at least. Power bars/oly bars Rogue for sure. But I’ve always preferred the Again Faster Team Bar over the Ohio for general/CrossFit

[@meisdetermined]

@@ryanunderwood6827 are they still in business??

[@junioralvarado629]

I can’t wait for the new rep barbells to fully go to rep side

[@tonya7699]

@@junioralvarado629 Yeah, their new barbells look really good. REP rack with the Ares cable attachment, Blackwing, and I'll be good to go.

[@cnowako3652]

Both. I love my Rep PR-5000 ARES rack (93" 30+16 six post, stormtrooper scheme). But I love the Rogue 2.0 weight pegs, Rogue 2.0 leg rollers with those fantastic knurled knobs, Rogue 2.0 band pegs and Rogue 2.0 landmine. Add in my 2 stray dog GOATS and I'm set. Many vendors make great products. I'm glad they are all awesome!

[@stevensecondo1103]

One thing that you failed to mention where Rep is killing Rogue is in the customization game. I personally own a Rogue Monster RM6 and had a Monster Lite 390BT before that. It would be nice to be able to buy additional uprights, and crossmember a la carte from Rogue in any color they offer. This is something Rep offers and something Rogue could easily do as well. Also a "rack builder" option could be nice for those looking for something custom.

[@hitleractually8180]

I get what you're saying, BUT you can do the same thing with Rogue. Just have to reach out to Rogue HQ and they'll add uprights and crossmembers to your cart in any finish you desire.

[@stevensecondo1103]

@@hitleractually8180 I've heard that, but it should just be right there to add to your cart. You shouldn't have to reach out them them for a custom order. It's an easy fix and would be much appreciated.

[@avinashtyagi2]

Seriously though, originally I'd say that Rogue was better, but in last 2-3 years Rep has pulled ahead Rogue is like the Hare that went to sleep against the Tortoise

[@pHaTtY111111111111]

That is a pretty accurate analogy.

[@johnhernandez4763]

Rogue too expensive with shipping cost

[@OfficialMarkZuckerberg]

Exactly, they made the slinger and thought it would be fine then rep comes out with the ares while they're sleeping

[@zack9912000]

​@johnhernandez4763, not really, USA made products for the same prices as rep charges from charges.

[@avinashtyagi2]

@zack9912000 Not so, compare a fullu loaded pr-5000 vs a fully loaded monster rack, the PR-5000 will be significantly cheaper

[@reggie7716]

Team Rogue here! And I live in Colorado, but REPs warehouse isn't in Colorado anymore so I don't feel like I betrayed the home team. Nothing beats the Ohio Power Bar, and 90% of my home gym is Rogue.

[@kristoforlearmonth4939]

I'm over 40 years old now. And I started buy chrome fixed dumbbells. Because that's my last set and I'll keep using them. If your customers are older they should buy "nicer" equipment rather than just big weights.

[@justinmurphy5082]

I use mainly Rep gear in my gym, and I love it. Great quality, great functionality, great prices. I start with them for all research for new gear. I do prefer Rogue barbells because they offer shorter barbells and I’m in a small space. I also use Rogue bumpers because they are thinner.

[@mikeprice3174]

I own select things from both companies. My REP PR-5000 in clear coat is a perfect piece of artwork. I can't imagine paying more for something else. I also can't stand the ergonomic dumbbells, so I got a set of REP's rubber hex dumbbells. Absolutely love the straight knurled handles. Can't go wrong with either, but I keep finding myself buying more and more stuff from REP and I've loved every single thing. Fantastic value.

[@Thunder029]

Consumers win when companies like this compete. I have products from both. They're both great. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

[@NoFate247]

Does Rogue even market to the home gym community or aren't they mainly focused on crossfit and local gyms?

[@andrewelliott4107]

All the above to be honest.

[@redknight2470]

Rogue will be at HomeGymCon 2024!

[@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472]

Rep Fitness please redesign the leg attachment for your adjustable benches. Your current design is very painful on the knees and makes decline situps and decline benchpress almost impossible.

[@michaelsutton1461]

I was in the Rogue Bar and Rack / REP bench club for a while. However, the introduction of the ARES just blew my mind. Rogue has the "Cave" but the ARES has the footprint that suits most home gyms. I can't believe Rogue hasn't come up with their own version. The price tag is a bit higher than I'd like for the ARES, but, I'm definitely leaning that way. Listen up Rogue...you've got about two more months to make an entry into the field before you lose another consumer to REP! LOL.

[@tuckertech]

Same. I love the way Rogue racks look, the beefier and made in US I love. But that Athena/Ares blows the slinger out of the water. I REALLY want Rogue to come up with something similar.

[@aaronhrenak4769]

Packaging could be something to compare them on. Most of my Rogue shipments come in a standard box with one piece of parchment separating multiple parts. Both barbells I purchased recently (CB-4 and curl bar) have punched the end of the shipping tube before arriving, and the end of both of my uprights were both exposed upon arrival (one piece of tape holding the end closed). You can blame the carrier, but Rogue could also do better on their end. The Velocidor and Ghost rollers had specialized packaging, but Rep seems to be leading in that space for the few things I’ve purchased. The open trap bar was way over packaged but I prefer that to seeing the product through the box.

[@vintageweightspgh]

The debate rages on! You made a lot of good points, Coop. I think the reputation Rogue has built will be hard to overcome, but Rep is gaining! Nice run down, and love all the data for comparison!

[@jasonhartsell993]

I'm just building my home gym, so I've had to piece things together as I could afford them. I have 8 3/4" stall mats for my flooring. I bought an adjustable bench on Amazon by a company called Youten, which I'm extremely happy with. It's quite sturdy to only cost $200. I bought an adjustable height power tower, also on Amazon for $140. I'm going to get the Quick Lock dumbells from Ironmaster in a couple of weeks as well as the Rep PR-1050 power rack. It'll fit under my short ceiling in my basement. I've also purchased 2 Ironmaster dumbell stands. I'm pretty happy with how things are coming along.

[@radleynelson6697]

I really like both, and have both. I've found myself leaning towards Rogue for things I know I want to last forever (Barbells, Plates, Rack) and Rep for things like speciality bars, benches where I feel I either don't want to invest extra money or the quality gap has been closed. TLDR on the most important things in my gym I lean Rogue, for other things I lean REP

[@lularoeamynjeff4585]

Rep PR 4000 w plate loaded lat and Jammer arms, Rep zero gap, and Rep Iron plates. Rogue Ohio bar and Titan fitness leg extension leg curl machine. Everything works amazing and couldn’t be happier.

[@user-gk3yy2yh9v]

I’d love to see a comparison between Sorinex and Rogue.

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for the shout out!

[@threatctrl]

Love these reviews. One thing that could add value here is a summary slide of the side by side comparisons. Sort of the spreadsheet view of all your categories and the results. Then I could screenshot it. Just food for thought

[@chrishennigan]

These were the two companies that it came down to when putting together my home gym. It ultimately came down to rogue having so many made in USA options. Im willing to pay a little more for that, and with fitness being a lifelong pursuit, i can afford putting off a shiny new piece of equipment for a bit longer. FYI: Rogue US MIL SPEC bumper plates are american made. They are just a little on the thick side.

[@WildCatLyfe]

Titan and Bells Of Steel and Texas Power. 💯

[@zack9912000]

I like my rep bench but a person is nuts to pay REP prices for China made stuff vs the same money for USA products from rogue. Hard for me to spend 350 on their barbells from rep imported from china vs a Ohio power bar for the same price made in Columbus ohio. Rep can claim they offer free shipping but they really dont. Every product has the price to ship baked into their final price. No company is going to ship metric tons of metal products for free its calculated in when they list the price.

[@youngcouplesparty9006]

It’s remarkable how people tolerate Reps high prices considering it’s Chinese Bench A is made in Columbus, Ohio Bench B is made in China Yet B costs 90% of A Makes no sense. Rep should be half the price

[@zack9912000]

​@youngcouplesparty9006 I love my Rep bench and Rep power rack. There I am, saving money for a strong enough equipment. The barbells are just hard for me to spend the same money for non USA made barbell. I also can get a cheaper barbell from rogue with their boneyard offers.

[@craigwhite9754]

I support American steel and labor whenever I have the opportunity. It's important to sustain the United States' ability to manufacture products.

[@cappy0023]

My home gym is 90% Rep Fitness. Far better value than Rogue.

[@Malkolmi]

Hi, I love your Videos! Its just sad that its really hard to find someone doing this over here in Eleiko-land with european products! I think Eleiko is just too expensive, and now I have ordered a barbell, weights and bench from a German company called ATX Fitness instead! Do you have any plans on checking out more of the european market, or is the shipping just too much?

[@michaelmoody5886]

I love the fact that Rogue is employing Americans for fabrication and is using us steel in their products. That being said, my home gym rack is REP and I have 0 regrets about it. The quality is outstanding and the price difference was VAST. That is one part where I think Coop was misleading, the difference in a comparable rack and attachments was THOUSANDS of dollars after shipping, not hundreds.

[@RGraw]

Rogue is the better of the two. It’s American Made vs Chinese Made. That alone puts the product above. With that said, the question becomes, how much more are you willing to pay for it? Is getting a better product worth the markup? If the answer is that the quality matters, it’s Rogue. If the answer is that as long at it works and stays in one piece, then it’s neither, and you get Titan.

[@dolphinwestern4245]

Posting early in the video but if he doesn’t talk about it. Reps customer service in my experience is far better than rogues.

[@JustinRudd42]

when I first started building out my garage, I went all Rogue because they offered free shipping if you bought a rack. So everything from them. But over the last couple of years, I buy from whoever has stock in their warehouse and won’t break the bank. So I’ve got a mixture of Rep, Titan, and Bells of Steel. I’m trying to think of the last thing I bought from Rogue.

[@mrkang4080]

REP pretends to ship to Canada. You can build your setup and try to check out but half your order will be removed from your cart because it isn't available. Rogue simply stomps them on the customer service front, they are simply a bigger, better, company in every sense of the word.

[@Natural.Crusader]

How does it feel to not have a functional trainer and a rack in one option?

[@Nick-1828]

Until Rogue comes out with a product like the Ares/Athena I feel like Rep will be ahead. Like have a little bit of both in my gym but if I had to just pick one I’m going with Rep.

[@davidb1975a]

I'm a fan of both. I'll buy Rogue for some things and REP for others. Rogue, as you stated, has been around longer. Their warranty and customer service are excellent. REP is starting to kick it up a notch. I own their PR5000 w/ Ares pulley system, Open Trap Bar, and Cambered Swiss Bar. I have had to contact REP due to some QC issues. But, they have done a great job at helping me. Since you did a Rogue vs REP, what about doing a budget friendly comparison? Like Bars of Steel vs Titan?

[@TheCarterHomeGym]

@user-tt3gm6vx4j seems legit

[@jugjivan]

Titan > BOS in terms of quality for their average product IMO. Titan has stepped up big time in recent years for product quality. BOS > Titan for customer service. I suggest Titan fitness over BOS usually, and I am Canadian (BOS is a Canadian company whereas Titan products need to be picked up at the border).

[@samuele.marcora]

I m buying from Rogue Europe and I m very happy with their products and service. Top company

[@LivingTheLifeRetired]

My rack is Rep as are my Swiss bar and trap bar, my barbells are Rogue along with a few other pieces. In Canada, Rogue has superior shipping. If I order from Rogue it’s often shipped in a day, and I have waited up to 2 weeks for Rep to ship.

[@JDubs911]

I went Rogue for Rack & Bar, Rep for Bench & Titan for plates. Oh and tractor supply for ya know..

[@justincider8892]

For pricing it's also worth mentioning that you can pick up REP orders from a showroom for 10% off the order (if you're lucky enough to live near one). I don't know if rogue offers that.

[@ScottHammet]

If I had it to do over, I would probably choose REP, but at the time I chose ForceUSA (G20 Pro)...mostly because I lift alone and wanted the Smith machine integrated into the rack. My only regret with the ForceUSA rack, which I knew going in, but didn't appreciate enough, was the non-standard sized square tube used by ForceUSA, which eliminates the ability to use some innovative attachments made by other manufacturers. I have cable accessories, bars, plates, etc. from both REP and Rogue, though.

[@FitLabb]

Just invested in a Rep PR-5000 & ARES, as well as the new 5200 bench that’s coming out in a month or two & absolutely love the power rack & functional trainer so far. The price and versatility can’t be beat, the quality is among the best out there, and they’re a great company that’s constantly raising the bar (no pun intended) as you mentioned. I added the Rogue Pritchett pad to my PR-5000 and also bought a Rogue Ohio Bar and love both, and I’ll probably continue to mix and match future purchases from both companies going forward…..but overall I see myself leaning more heavily towards REP as I see them as a better value overall for equipment that’s almost exactly comparable quality. 💪

[@ivannavarro2112]

Most of my equipment is REP not just because of the price difference, but I build my home gym to be centered around my power rack (PR 5000). Very few companies are making shorter racks that can fit comfortably in a basement with low ceilings. REP's PR 4000 and PR 5000 both have 80" options which was the biggest decision on which power rack to get. All of the accessories and my adjustable bench (AB4100) I ordered at the same time for convenience, but all of REPs accessories and bench have been top notch.

[@wb5mgr]

Another deal with rogue that I’m not sure you can do with REP (although since they’re doing free shipping, all the time it may not matter) If you live in that region of the country, you can actually drive to the rogue factory campus and pick up your order in person with a trailer and they’ll put it on a pallet and load it for you. I mean, if you have a significant amount of stuff especially weights that you’re ordering from them it really might be worth it if you lived within 500 miles just to make a road trip with your buddy for the weekend to go up there and get it get lunch turn around and come back.

[@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472]

Still waiting on Rogue Manta Ray versus Rep Blackwing comparison video.

[@liftsalty]

Rogue and Rep are fine as one-stop-shops, and if you buy all at once that's the way to go - but you get better quality equipment if you piecemeal your build from companies that specialize. IMO American Barbell makes the best barbells, Uesaka the best bumper plates, Irwin the best benches, Prime/Marrs/Kabuki the best specialty bars, Eleiko or Watson the best the dumbbells, etc.

[@SmokinBuddha]

Rogue Fitness Hex dumbbells 5-100 lbs with taxes and shipping cost $4,872.25. Rep Fitness Hex dumbbells 5-100 lbs total cost is $3599.99 (Free shipping & No taxes)

[@DrDeusExMachina]

Barbells: Rogue easily Speciality bars: Rogue only because they manufacture the most premium bars - e.g. Kabuki Strength Dumbbells: Rogue or adjustable alternative Metal or calibrated Plates: Rogue Urethane coated plates: Rep Benches: Rep has innovated here more than any other space. The Ares is an awesome tool, but the benches really are a point of endless pursuit towards ideal function at a great price point. That said, they still have yet to get the leg roller attachment down. Too unstable and not as premium. Would like to see that improvement with options for bench attachments e.g. Powertec. Metal uprights: Rep has a great value, but Rogue’s have better overall features with more sizes and attachments that utilize the keyhole function of the monster line. That said, the inability to work with the Ares shifts this to Rep over Rogue’s ability to use keyholes. Cable based movements: Rep, Rogue makes crappy cable based innovations. The premium competition in this area is prime fitness who absolutely smashes the cable movement game. Rack based attachments: Rogue easily. No comparison.

[@kennethgreen114]

Rogue would be my go to company. The only Rep product I would shop for would be there benches.

[@macmovieman1]

Right now, 100% of our gym has been built around rogue. We have the flat bench with the Thompson pad and the high-end adjustable with all the dumbbells and rack and rack attachments. I am very impressed with the rep fitness Aries 2.0 and I think I might swap out my rack and I’m hoping a lot of the rogue attachments will work on it.both my wife and I need to have cables and we just have not been impressed with the cable attachments at rogue. I think we’re going to make a switch and although I think rogue is a slightly higher quality brand I appreciate the innovation at rep fitness and we’re going to make a swap on the rack.

[@THEREALTWISTEDINSANE]

To me , Rogue must have an answer to the Ares , period. The slinger is not it. Until they have an answer to THAT 😬

[@599Dan]

Really glad there's so much competition out there. I decided to go with Rogue because I just wanted to buy it once and be done. I'm really happy with their products and do not regret my purchase. I will continue to buy Rogue, although I have looked at Rep Fitness. What keeps bringing me back to Rogue is made in the USA.

[@adammontoya8329]

This is why its good that we can wait for sales to happen from each and have a gym filled with a bunch of companies.

[@m.r.6264]

Just came across this video. I have mostly Rogue items. Like dumbbbells, kettlebells, a few dumper plates and a barbell. I’ll most likely end up getting one of their squat stands in the future. For Rep, I currently only have an adjustable bench. I’ll end up getting their DB rack just due to the price. I don’t really have a preference for one or the other, so I clearly have a mix of the two when my home gym is done. Just looking for the best price that I can afford and what fits my needs

[@KevinC-fj2po]

I have the REP 5000 rack with the Lat Pulldown and I love it. I also have the Urethane Dumbbells 5-50lb with the storage rack. The main reason I went with Rep was the price and all the extra attachments you can buy. With Rep I feel like you get more bang for your buck.

[@enragedlabs6332]

you should review bells of steel vs titan fitness. That would be interesting.

[@rahul2504]

Or titan vs rep. Titan has more accessories to offer it seems. I always keep debating between these two brands but surely lower price with promos on titan products mostly wins but if when I also bring in post sales like any price adjustment or quality/shipping concern and you dealing with their customer service later oh boy that has not always been a fun experience rather exhausting so I have been rethinking my home gym brand choice for overall peace of mind. Not sure if others have similar experience.

[@Williverfit]

Rep is so much better then titan. I was thinking titan vs bells of steel idea is also a good idea since they are in the same cheap league

[@Garage_gym48]

Love rogue. But it’s some of the stuff is super expensive which prices out the home gym buyer. The rhino is almost $4k. I would love to have it but just can’t justify. Rep has only recently become available in the country and I freakinnn love it. Will definitely get the pr5000 in the future and hopefully ares. Rogue just doesn’t compare with the slinger. Although I see that changing soon but assuming that will also be ridiculously expensive.. awesome video btw Coop! 😊

[@youngcouplesparty9006]

If someone doesn't have 4k then they dont have 4k. That said, your health is literally everything and the Rhino is a lifelong piece of equipment. Easily justifiable to those who can afford it IMO.

[@Garage_gym48]

@@youngcouplesparty9006 thanks for the insight.

[@AnontheGOAT]

@@youngcouplesparty9006the “for the health” argument justifying dropping that kind of cash is quite a stretch lmao.

[@bilalrasheed]

BOS is utter trash, they shouldn't be in this conversation. Even Titan are miles ahead of BOS

[@mikesbigtank6015]

Considering most people can't afford the high end equipment the best equipment is what you can afford that gets the job done, there's a lot of people that get amazing results with cheap or very little amount of gym equipment!!!

[@RubenRodriguez-tc9lz]

I just created a Rogue account and spent $568.64 for the Jammer Pull-up bar and and Rogue RML Cross member pull up bar. I've been eye balling both for over a year now. Money well spent.

[@dionisioramirez6706]

I’ve got rogue kb, rep kb, cff pro elite squat stands, Vulcan strength bench. The Best Buy is used equipment to save big time.

[@airgordo4]

The problem with the comparisons is Rogue isn’t making “home gym” equipment. People saying they aren’t innovating because they don’t have the Ares (which is a copy anyways) because Rogue has Sorinex/Elite FTS level lat pull downs, cable columns, functional trainers. Commercial leg presses, combo racks, bench stations, seal row, etc.. The reason the manta ray bench is 1k+ is because it’s made to compare against other 1k+ benches, not $500 benches. In the same time Rep has innovated a lot of this stuff Rogue has also bought ghost, brought in Kabuki products, built a monolift, rhino, Donkey, RM-43 rack, 3-4 different cable machines.. To say they aren’t innovating just because they aren’t making home-targeted items is dumb. Does Rep offer more for most home gyms, I feel like that’s obvious. It’s basically their entire business structure. For Rogue it’s a secondary market. But people need to be able to differentiate that aspect before just randomly making comments like Rogue is behind or not bringing new products to the table. Most of it is just stuff you aren’t putting in your home.

[@FightNightPicks]

REP shipping to Canada, big yikes on the pricing

[@mathieuboulanger7662]

Totally agree with you on that my PR4000 478$ of shipping but rogue also has a hefty shipping price with their racks

[@cquenault]

Rogue is the hot girl who knows she hot. Rep is the girl you bring to Mom.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I really am waiting to see if Life Fitness comes out with an integrated cable trainer add on to the amazing Hammer Strength power racks. That would be my dream setup for an American made premium setup. My sales rep there told me they were working on some new stuff last year. Avoid crap made in PRC if possible.

[@PBlaik]

Almost exclusively Rogue here... Two reasons, 1st they had everything I wanted/needed. Second at the time, Rouge was the only company I knew of that had shipping/freight/duties included for a predetermined fee for Canadians. Rep has since added a similar option which opens up them as a possible supplier to me and others who may be interested! I'll add I've made two large purchases. I had two issues, 1)I received two left hand Jammer Arm handles. 2)My Matador was dented making it difficult to install/remove on my rack.... Rouge customer services immediately shipped replacements to me at no charge and didn't ask/want the incorrect products back. I was very impressed.

[@BattlemasterD20]

When you are riding the struggle bus with CAP Barbell

[@stevephla]

I have and respect both. REP is leading massively on recent innovation, agreed.

[@jaesthetics]

I use both! I have a REP rack and bench with Rogue barbell and weighs. Love them both.

[@Eccles_basement_gym]

Best thing is you can try em both at next years Home Gym Con in French Lick, Indiana.

[@MrChessgator]

Both Rogue and REP are good companies. Currently, Rogue is still in the lead overall. Perhaps, some of REPs products are better on a benefit-cost basis. I believe that other companies are analyzing both REP and Rogue to improve their own products and the more competition in the home gym space is a great thing. When I was a teenager long before the Internet there was only York Barbell products. If you want to see cheap products buy York! Thank you for your informative reviews and keep up the good work for all of us and the industry! Merry Christmas 2023!!😁

[@bobbyhunt3009]

Coop, Rogue is more expensive on 90%-95% of the items each offers. That's the only way to truthfully say it. I'll give U that Rogue's fit and finish on 90%-95% of the items each offers is better. The welds, the shine, gloss, and the finished product is just sharper from Rogue than REP. Some items, however from Rogue are priced extremely too high. I agree REP is closing the process gap and that is bad. In the end here is the rub, why pay outrageous prices for Rogue's stuff when REP is sitting right there offering us a product with equal quality, equal functionality, and equal durability for much less money. As I said REP's finished product is not as sharp as Rogue but when I'm gonna save thousands of dollars on items that work the same, after it is all said and done, I would rather give up a little shine and gloss and have that money for the family or to buy other toys. Now if I get to pick between them and both of them are gonna send me what I want for free, then I'm taking the Rogue stuff every time but that is not the case. U however get all products for free and U like Rogue better and I would too if I was in your shoes but we are not so fo us REP is King.

[@CurosBackup]

Rep is the bulk of my gym Rep rack, lat pulldown system, rep bench Rogue bands, plates, shirts, barbell, collars

[@elsenorloco84]

Rep kicks their faces in

[@JJ-to6qu]

I'd be interesting in a video series that does company deep dives: History, place in market, best products, etc

[@LucasSmith-ck1lb]

I second this, get to work Coop!💪🏼 we need to know what has happened thus far within each company. I feel like both are great, but, "globally sourced" versus made in the USA hands down needs to be talked about. Which REP produces in general are USA made? Which ones should we stay away from generally? There has to be some sort of guide here. I'd assume all the uprights are made in one facility, where is that? Barbell facility? Ect

[@loveydovey4u]

I like Rouge's bars because of the massive selection. Shipping is fast and cheap as well. REP can never keep bars in stock!🤬

[@michaelhennessy5672]

I’m going to build a home gym from scratch, will go with REP. The Ares is what clenched it. Thanks for the reviews Coop!

[@mikemcconville2495]

Do you have an update?

[@michaelhennessy5672]

@@mikemcconville2495 thanks for asking, I actually chose a Tonal and I am very impressed. Both my wife and I use it all the time and getting great results

[@mantequillas1278]

My home gym is majority of Rogue and Titan. During the pandemic, I took Rep into consideration and built a home gym on both websites. Rep was coming out 20% cheaper overall for a rack, barbell, 300lbs of bumper plates, a few dumbbells, some attachments, and a few extra items. The reason I went with Rogue was because it's American made (except the bumpers). I will always buy Made in the USA when I can. At the time Rogue offered free shipping with a purchase of a rack, so I grabbed as much as I could. Rogues customer is also great. With a few pictures of a warped slam ball, and some missing change plates, they sent me new ones right away. What I've bought from Titan is the plate loaded functional trainer because the slinger had crap reviews lol. In the near future I'll also be getting a leg extension/leg curl machine from Titan. If the Athena or Ares was around at the time, I might have 2nd thoughts honestly. Overall I'm happy with Rogue. Is it over built? Yes. Is it over priced? Probably. Buy once, cry once. This stuff will last forever.

[@sharks408n209]

Can we get a hades and helios barbell review?

[@GarageGymReviews]

In the works. - Coop

[@msingh121]

Coop will be great to get comparisons with Watsons Gym Equipment for international audiences as REP don’t ship to EU.

[@kwizzil07]

Started out with Walmart type lifting, biggest jump up was to Rouge Yoke setup, and im now about to switch over to Rep Ares 5000

[@seyedazinroshan3387]

Hey man. You have been super detailed and doing a great job !! Loving the energy and info you provide !!! Can you please do a comparison between g20pro with another unit similar unit. I need to get an all in one garage gym. Many thanks in advance brother love from Portugal

[@salitz91]

The gap is closing, but I can get a PR 4000 and full weight setup for less than a rogue Half Rack and weights. I know they are both good, but the shipping and prices are still a differentiator.

[@HambledonRehab]

Has to be Rogue, crazy expensive, and insane shipping, but REP don’t even ship to the U.K. so 🤷‍♂️

[@beontamoukian4113]

I have a PR500 in clear coat. I love it and it looks awesome! But the coating needs work around the holes and laser cut logos. It’s developing little veins of rust under the finish, in areas I never even put attachments.

[@acefaaace]

good to know, still thinking about the clear coat since I'm buying the 5000 next week

[@beontamoukian4113]

@@acefaaace it's been an awesome rack and it's a real eye catcher. I think they did a better job than rogue on the clear coat because they have the grind marks on the metal, looks sick. Just too bad it's starting to rust. Honestly, can't go wrong with either company.

[@iamswright1853]

Rust veins are common for clear coat racks. Same happens on the Sorinex. Surprisingly, I kinda like it and hope the entire rack gets the veins. I’m sure in time.

[@MIKE_BLM_BDS_ACAB]

would be good to have a comparison between rack standards 3x3 imperial vs metric and 1 inch vs 5/8. I feel like which you go with is super important in terms of options for the future. Would love to hear your thoughts.

[@the_pez_gaming]

One thing worth noting is that Rogue has presence in Europe while REP doesn't, yet. So for someone in Europe it's not even a competition :( On the REP site they state that they want to open up to Europeans in 2023 which is really good news. For example I bought a monster lite rack because REP was unfortunately not available to me. Also I bought ATX (german brand, would love to see some comparisons with REP and Rogue products) benches while I would have bought the REP benches if it would have been available to me

[@pi11sburydoeboy]

It depends on your budget. I bought a lot from Rep in the last 6 months and saved a lot of money. But there's a catch. I've had to place a support call for every single order for some sort of damage. Not from shipping either, the packages were undamaged. But the crapsmanship is not top notch. Things were dinged up, plastic busted, paint chips and rust forming, pin detents busted etc. Their support was pretty helpful though and overall I'm happy with what I got.

[@calebneubert911]

Can u make videos on plyo boxes and med balls

[@DANA-lx8cv]

I'm in the Rogue camp. 90 percent of my big stuff (705 pounds of 6 shooter plates, bars--I have 2 Ohio's and a curl bar, handles, chains, bands, landmine, bench, etc.) are Rogue. My power cage is a random brand that I've had for years, and I have Nuobell dumbbells and some other brand accessories, but Rogue is my go to. The shipping has always been really fast and everything has always been high quality. I also like that many of their products are made in the USA. I would gladly pay a few dollars more for that and support the home team. That said, I have never used any REP stuff, so it may be good too, but I'm satisfied with Rogue.

[@wisconsinstrength]

I have a variety of everything...eleiko, rogue, Elitefts, York, Cybex, Titan.... I try to find the best deal on equipment vs being dependent on a specific name brand.

[@felizjulianidad]

CAP Barbell vs Fitness Reality vs Sunny Health. Basically, the low-cost segment.

[@identitynotwithstanding3553]

My primary gym piece is a REP pr4k with the ares. Ive got various other oieces but thats what provides most of thw versatility at my house.