Garak and Bashir being an old married couple for 14 min "straight"

#ds9
so, you may see that here not all their moments together but it because not all their scenes have "old married couple" energy
I'm planning to do a video "garashir being garashir" so let me know, which moments of them you would like to see

[@Supahpowahnerd890]

Keep in mind that Andrew Robinson was asked to *tone down* the ambiguous orientation of Garak in his performance.

[@irishdc9523]

I suppose it's because of the time it was produced, but still a pity

[@irishdc9523]

@@Krocxigor Even in Dax's case, there was outrage over that scene. Also, there's a general perception that gay women are more "acceptable" than gay men. Putting acceptable in air quotes because while they are affected by homophobia, lesbianism is usually fetishised so it's this weird thing where gayness in women isn't viewed as bad as in men. Even in some countries where homosexuality is criminalised, it's only between men where it's applied whereas women are considered more like antisocial behaviour

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

​@Krocxigor they weren't lecturing you? They were litterally just responding to your comment, you need to grow up

[@kevinphoenix2007]

Why? Why does everything have to be gay? Do you modern “progressives” have such a complete lack of self-control, that you just can’t help yourselves?

[@dswrabkln4900]

​@kevinphoenix2007 It's one actor who chose to play one character as ambiguously gay on a show with only one other confirmed LGBT character. That's pretty far from making "everything" gay. Meanwhile, there are dozens of explicit straight romances on the show, but you don't find that to be inappropriate. Just say you're homophobic and move on.

[@fanman420]

Its even better when you take into account that arguments are the Cardassians' way of flirting.

[@not_zippy]

Absolutely DYING at the “myehhh guys can be friends without it being gay” comments, because Andrew Robinson (Garak’s actor) literally said that he portrayed Garak as being attracted to Dr. Bashir.

[@LakesGeek]

Yeah I mean straight men and women can be friends also not everything is about romance, but the chemistry between these two (especially from Garak's side) was palpable.

[@SaffronicSaffron]

Facts💯

[@williamleewolverine]

The amount of gay tension these two have is enough to burn a hole through a Jem’hadar warship.

[@stephaniehammett5050]

God I love how Andy Robinson speaks. The emphasis is almost musical

[@lostjedi3380]

To quote Andrew Robinson “ I think it did start of as something physical, he wanted sex, but then it became so much more.” Or something like that

[@caldupi6569]

Which one wanted something more 👀

[@Ur_battDoll]

Good news, they are canonically married

[@williamleewolverine]

That’s awesome! About time too!

[@rayhill5767]

Per the writers the sub text is real. We are not imagining things. But it was the 90s and the world wasn’t ready for gay characters in Trek.

[@tilasole3252]

Not reoccurring characters anyway

[@GaySatanicClowns]

Rick Berman wasn't ready for gay characters in Trek, let's be real.

[@TriXJester]

Bashir and Garak walked so Beckett Mariner could sprint

[@xnightxamex]

"that was hot...our divorce arc is officially over" hahaha i love it

[@raywestenberg]

I knew how gay they were. I *remembered* from the show. I knew what to expect when I hit the play button. and then I watched this and went. oh my god. they really are *that* homosexual

[@Flanclanman]

Garak when Bashir shot him: 😮🥺🥵

[@thewolffromhell66666]

Arguing is actually considered flirting amoungst Garaks species

[@snatchadams69]

Not arguing outright disdain is an act of flirting...

[@Sealhunt]

I thought that was a Tellarite thing

[@kathrynblakeley9823]

@@snatchadams69 but if outright distain is flirting, does that mean Garak and Gal’dikut are exes

[@snatchadams69]

@@kathrynblakeley9823 possibly or Garak "interrogated" Dukat's father to death...

[@kathrynblakeley9823]

@@snatchadams69 interesting (Cardassians continue to leave me baffled).

[@Jbewell1991]

I swear if I was a rich man I'd pay an ungodly amount of money to have your captions added to the show. I laughed the whole way through 😂

[@mira_ashhh]

@@Jbewell1991 oh, thanks! I'm happy you enjoyed video!

[@Jbewell1991]

@mira_ashhh of course! You captured their relationship perfectly. Garak ànd Bashir had the best on screen chemistry in ds9 behind dukat and Ben.

[@xxlCortez]

Their first meeting should have been included. It was hilarious when Garak said he wants to be Bashir's friend and he freezes as Garak puts his hands on his shoulder.

[@emisthem6562]

The actors shipped it harder than any of us and they made it real for us - that's dedication

[@carolineptackova3156]

I have a feeling Garak world still insist on calling Bashir "Doctor", even if they ever did end up together.

[@mira_ashhh]

YEEEES

[@kathrynblakeley9823]

100% Garak would use Doctor as a pet name for Bashir

[@carolineptackova3156]

I want a podcast of Andrew Robinson reading some type of children's fables and stories, trying to wrap his head around the more gruesome ones... And giving his opinion on the real themes and main ideas.

[@LainKaplan]

I know it’s EMHs, but we finally got a payoff for this relationship on screen with Lower Decks. It was so affirming! And funny.

[@sophiaolszewski64]

What’s EMH?

[@LainKaplan]

@@sophiaolszewski64 Garak is a real person from an alternate timeline, Bashir is from another timeline and is an Emergency Medical Hologram. He has an emitter that lets him travel outside holo-projector equipped areas.

[@sun_daes]

okay but WHY DOES GARAK SOUND LIKE THAT ??????? “oh you wouldn’t have me any other way” HELLO ??????????????????

[@veronika4870]

riiiiiiiiiight that's not subtext that's big neon headlights

[@fathog4900]

to be fair it was "subtext" to the writers but andrew robinson was playing it as gay as he physically could get away with, hes been open about this lol

[@p.anthony_xpert1013]

Came here after the new Lower Decks episode.

[@mira_ashhh]

@@p.anthony_xpert1013 this episode was blessing for garashir shippers

[@lilyann168]

I’ve been putting off watching that show cuz I’m not so into animation but now i might watch it.

[@brittany1049]

The time Julian gives Garak back the chocolates should be in here. Makes me smile every time.

[@mira_ashhh]

Aaagh, RIGHT, I forgot about this part 😫 it such a cute moment

[@theeutecticpoint]

the "Tell me I'm pretty" broke me, well done, the little edits are delightful!

[@mira_ashhh]

Oh, thank you very much! It's mean a lot to me!

[@jeepdude7359]

I really never considered their relationship like this. It really makes more sense now in prospective.

[@KelseyRuthAU]

They were always supposed to be have been a couple, but the TV execs wouldn't allow it so the writers and the actors had to keep it as subtext only, although Andrew Robinson did play Garak as openly gay as was possible under the circumstances.

[@iridescent6685]

@@KelseyRuthAU Garak is gay Bashir is platonically interested in him. They become platonically in love.

[@superthorc6894]

Love how Lower deck has them together via multiverse shenanigans s

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

Andrew Robinson, AKA Garak, is the godfather of Siddig El Fadil's children, Siddig being Bashir.

[@mira_ashhh]

Really? It make my heart melt 😊❤️

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

@@mira_ashhh The kid's mom is Nana visitor, aka Kira. Her pregnancy in the show was legit.

[@HariSeldon913]

@@noabsolutelynot3660 Yep, when Kira yelled at Bashir that her pregnancy was all his fault, she spoke the truth.

[@tungsten8290]

Given their backgrounds, i think it makes sense that they'd end up as a sort of intellectual foil for each other.

[@lordsathariel4384]

in all fairness it makes sense the semi retired wetworks operative would hang out with the augmented doctor i imagine the number of people intellectually on their level besides dax is very low.

[@kazy8029]

Holy crap, i haven't watch this series in years but they are really cute together.

[@greydaze3]

I hope you've watched by now

[@robertpatter5509]

A tailor is an excellent occupation for a spy. Gives public plausible deniability. Much more deniability than others. You can get access to alot information as a tailor. People lower their deflection shields. Mostly.

[@lichslayer0045]

And even with that and all Andrew Robinson Performance of Garak was To me a Rare to say Perfection.

[@tanyajackson3833]

They were lucky to get AK as well as all the other talent. He needed the money so he said yes to doing it. I bet he thinks of it as a career high, though.

[@DaniGamerWarrior]

Every time I see these kind of scenes between these two I just get so annoyed the show didn't run more with the idea they were a couple like originally surmised, Gah! They're too amazing together!

[@eloiseroberts9674]

Totally agree. Thank goodness for AO3 😉❤️

[@SaffronicSaffron]

​@@eloiseroberts9674 bless Ao3.

[@damienkakoschke3099]

You know both actors would heartily approve!

[@mira_ashhh]

maybe one of the best comment I got

[@april-alecsa]

actually for realsies felt like crying when they _didn't_ hug or kiss or call eachother some affectionate nickname, repeatedly, on every single clip,

[@sir.crayons]

Bac here now that were canon

[@lightknightgames]

Garak hems Bashir's pants a bit too often I wonder if it's a euphemism lol

[@liliumastrale]

makes you wonder just how many times Garak had his hands in Bashir's pants 😂

[@dancingdragon3]

Thank you for this video ❤️‍🔥 (also - Lower Decks! Lower Decks! Lower Decks!)

[@mira_ashhh]

@@dancingdragon3 LOWER DECKS! And thank you, I hope you enjoyed it

[@stephengrigg5988]

"In two days I turn 30!!" As someone who recently turned 30 yet looks a decade younger than that man.. I realize age is just a number 😂

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Same here; I turn 30 in a couple of months, yet everyone thinks I'm at least a decade younger.

[@stephengrigg5988]

@OnafetsEnovap happy belated birthday

[@stephengrigg5988]

@ThisistheEnd66699 is that projection since you're afraid to show your face? You're liking your own comments too 😂 what's with this bratty 12 year old girl energy?

[@GaySatanicClowns]

Not to mention, he's a doctor. And a good one. He's young for that.

[@thisisme2476]

3:04 "Personal space? What's that??"

[@6millionforms]

This is funny considering the actor playing Garak said that when he started playing the character he played it that he wanted to have sex with Bashir.

[@mira_ashhh]

I know, right? 😆 God bless him, he's the best

[@mardus_ee]

They told Andrew Robinson (and the writers) to tone that side down, and so we have our favourite Garak right here.

[@jessicatripp5129]

The implied subtext makes the relationship more fun

[@GemmaHentsch]

They’ve read slash fiction as a couple…

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Yeah, Andrew's point I think was that Garak didn't care who his lover was- gay, straight, bi, trans- as long as he/she was human and physically attractive.

[@thestormofwar]

I ship that s*** like UPS.

[@emisthem6562]

Best. Pun. Ever.

[@advanced_monkey_2891]

Among the biggest missed opportunities in Trek.

[@tehpw7574]

It wasn't missed at all: That was AS CLOSE as the networks would ALLOW (and that's why that shit worked like clockwork!) When Garak was on The Shuttle Podcast earlier this (on YT) He explained his Ah-ha moment during the pre-production of DS9: "Oh I get it. Garak wants to &^%$ Bashir. Oh I can Do that angle...". That pairing, Bashir and Garak, that was most Almost-Out-of-Closet television to be had in the 90's. Done so well, that folks who knew, KNEW and folks who did not, did not b*tch about it...

[@advanced_monkey_2891]

@@tehpw7574 yes you are right

[@Gabryal77]

@@tehpw7574 Actually I agree with advanced. Babylon 5 which ran pretty much concurrently with DS9 and they had a portrayal of gay marriage between men in it. That to me was revolutionary when I first saw it in the late 90s

[@crayzkato6607]

DS9 was already a massive risk for the studio, they didn't want to push it further the first to do something has to fight the hardest, at this time one of the first major openly gay married couples with men was being released as Gabryal mentioned they didn't have the luxury to take that risk with so much else on the line So they showed their relationship just enough in the closet to not upset the homophobes, and enough to depict the relationship they wanted to show.

[@advanced_monkey_2891]

@@crayzkato6607 oh I definitely agree with everything you said.

[@Hells-Best-Demon]

This ship had more chemistry than Odo and Kira and I LOVE ITTTT

[@sirblockepicmcswaggins5248]

Andrew Robinson did this deliberately, he said he played his first meeting with Bashir as "This is a man Garak is sexually interested in."

[@Hells-Best-Demon]

@@sirblockepicmcswaggins5248 LOL REALLY THAT'S SO FUNNY

[@LakesGeek]

Yesss Conservatives either complain that something feels forced and unnatural "to tick boxes", or that yes there's chemistry but it must be friendship (you can't win). Meanwhile the straight thing with Odo and Kira is this weird one-way crush for most of the series devoid of even much I'd call friendship (beyond the everyday military camaraderie) where the other side gets trapped in a bit of rock and relents and then feels one of the most unnatural and forced relationships I've seen on TV... If Kira were male it'd be all "this is so forced, just for the sake of lefty LGBT diversity"

[@Spirosaur]

I wish there were more scenes with them in it

[@mira_ashhh]

Me too(

[@Hells-Best-Demon]

Blame Rick Berman for that, apparently because of Siddig and Robinson wanting to make them canon (and I guess you could say act gay on purpose), he gave them less scenes together (I MIGHT BE WRONG BTW)

[@Spirosaur]

@@Hells-Best-Demon I'm pretty sure 6oure right, honestly Rick Berman is to blame for a lot of things

[@gg7704]

Star trek lower decks

[@tristitiaphilia9317]

I'm NOT NORMAL for them

[@kathrynblakeley9823]

I mean, are any us of on this ship normal for them? I have found that when there are characters that could have been queer if not for our homophobia and/or someone on the team saying no especially when it involves a ship are never normal about this. We were robbed of the chance to see it happen. Why should we be normal?

[@coconutt-2kalwp]

'its not porn thank god' LMAO

[@catmartin]

It seemed clear as day to me that Bashir & Garak were being lined up as a couple, so it was bitterly disappointing that their romance was cancelled due to 90s homophobia. :( I'm glad we have Discovery to queer things up now, but I'll always consider Garashir to be canon.

[@michaelwilson-xw4hz]

The actors did a script reading set after DS9 where the two were less, obscure about their connections.

[@IrkenExile]

Son of a bitch, these guys make such a good comedic duo XD

[@Tallacus]

And people are upset that their relationship was canonized in Lower Decks when they were always a gay fan slash

[@AnimeShinigami13]

i now consider garak closeted throughout the series. but also that was a hologram bashir and an alternate garak. basically in the same episode where Garak lets Bashir know passively that Tain was his father, he pulled Worf's leg about wanting to join Starfleet academy. The alternate garak is from a universe where Worf called his bluff I guess. That story and the one about bashir being outed as being genetically engineered (aka with the bashir hologram being designed) are literally right next to each other in the episode order. So I like the callback. I also think those are the two stories where they're most likely to get together as a couple. I love how Garak told him too, without saying a word. He just lied, like he always does, and told Tain they were alone. I also love that Martok made sure they wouldn't be disturbed during Tain's last moments, so Garak could say goodbye to his bastard father in peace. I see martok as possibly being about 75% bro.

[@GaySatanicClowns]

The actors were sure they were playing the first gay couple in Star Trek. Andrew Robinson (Garak's actor) viewed his character as pansexual and was actually told to tone it down. A lot of people shipped them. The first two to do so were probably Alexander Siddig and Andrew Robinson.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

your subtitles are hilarious. also you're forgetting in the racquetball scene that was actually the Lethian. Their faces are getting strangely close in that one scene on the holosuite. You're also forgetting that Garek didn't send Julian away when his estranged father (Tain) was dying. That was MAJOR.

[@edwardmarlowe7926]

"straight", love it

[@mikoajzakowski3998]

my second favorite relatioons in ds9 afte cheif obrien and cadet nog

[@brianzilinskis683]

Loving the "whats really being said" flashed on the screen Remind me of Goldfinger and Bond "Ah Mr Bond so good to see you up and about! (What the blank are YOU doing out?!) Please meet Mr Soto an esteemed associate" (he's a goner anyway..) "How do you do? Well i just couldn't stay cooped up on a wonderful day like this (i broke out if you must know) and decided to go for a walk. I ran into Ms Galore here and she suggested we come find you" (and i got my smarmy @$$ kicked)

[@freyastuchbery7130]

Garak and Bashir, the pansexual/gay relationship we all needed but were never given freely. We must seize the means of representation and write as much gay fiction about these two as possible, I'll be titling my magnum opus "Spoon-fed lies by a Spoon-Faced Guy" An addition: Garak is turned on by violence and that delights me

[@warriormaiden9829]

And where, pray tell, will this magnum opus be published? I do so enjoy stories with such clever titles... 😂

[@2000blins]

Cringe

[@Dwayne-h2v]

the real question is if it will be on AO3 or not

[@TheMelbournelad]

Love the “straight” in type lol. Love how they first had Garek wanted to bang Bashir

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

I think they still kept with the plan. Just didn't go explicit with it.

[@superitgel1]

wtf. it's like a anime romcom. lol

[@MartialArtsCat101]

They really do make the best pair.

[@SaffronicSaffron]

Don't cardashians flirt by arguing??..... oo

[@wornouthoodie]

OOOOHHHH-

[@SaffronicSaffron]

@@wornouthoodie OOOOHHHHHHHHH! :○ XD

[@000Krim]

They are like me fr fr

[@jacobburt1523]

@@SaffronicSaffronnot by arguing, but by trading tit for tat barbs with each other.

[@SaffronicSaffron]

​@@jacobburt1523 It seems they do that dance really well too. 🎉

[@CCNuck]

The "ew" at Quark 😆

[@mira_ashhh]

@@CCNuck THANK YOU FOR NOTICING! 😭😭😭 It's probably the most funny line I did, I was sad nobody mentioned it

[@thestormofwar]

Any wonder why folks ship them like FedEx?

[@maximprilipko990]

Cause they have chemistry between them like Dupont)

[@bastobasto4866]

@@maximprilipko990 Toxic and able to kill thousands ?

[@GaySatanicClowns]

​@@bastobasto4866Exactly.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

.. I am watching this at 2 AM…. o.-.o

[@thestormofwar]

Any wonder why folks ship that s*** harder that overnight post?

[@joeschembrie9450]

I wonder if Miles ever got jealous.

[@mira_ashhh]

I bet he did

[@000Krim]

I would

[@Masterfailure-b7i]

Reminds me of that short drive with my mom and father today. She didn’t give a fuck about my father or anyone really. Started screaming at us just because dad was telling her to go the right way and then she goes all screaming for the rest of the drive. Like she some awful victim helping her husband and family. Dad told me he is have shoulder problems now…

[@mira_ashhh]

I hope your father be okay soon

[@iffyAttorney]

I'm a Federation doctor Garak.. you listen to me.

[@joe9739]

But seriously, who's better friends: Bashir and Garak or Bashir and O'Brien? Due to previous events, Garak & O'Brien don't make the best team

[@mira_ashhh]

Well, if we speak about FRIENDS it's probably Bashir and O'Brien. They had their ups and downs, but with time they work things out and become pretty good friends (and it's certainly interesting to look at them)

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Yes, Garak dear, it's called the Holodomor. You're Intel- look it up. 🤣

[@mira_ashhh]

it took me about 5 minutes to figure out what the reference was. Good job))

[@donbenjamin6459]

Jajajajja, i loved the coments that you added

[@mira_ashhh]

Haha, thanks!!!

[@embreis2257]

8:57 'someone should tell them about personal space.' ah, but that's tv for you. happens all the time because of camera angles actors are much nearer to each others faces than in RLK

[@GaySatanicClowns]

Yes, but for these two...

[@stratfordbaby]

Bashir was only turning 30?!?! Makes little sense considering to be a resident and finish with specialization as he would have done would put him in mid-30s or even into early 40s. WOW!!!!!

[@lavenderhuman]

That genetic augmentation did some crazy things lol

[@Krocxigor]

Pretty sure they cover that in the series as he always excelled in school but held himself back just enough to not get caught. So like doogie howser he probably graduated at a very very young age.

[@creepercthulhu591]

This awesome and true, thank you.

[@MrZonaZoo520]

Is garak an alleged spy who happens to be a tailer or a tailer who happens to be an alleged spy??

[@sanityisrelative]

yes

[@nonnobis2232]

Tailor

[@garakstailorshop]

You should have included the wire it's my favourite garashir moment

[@mira_ashhh]

Technically, some parts of "The Wire" are in video, just not all

[@garakstailorshop]

@@mira_ashhh oh I guess I meant the part where garak is falling and being miserable and Bashir is trying to help even though garak I'd refusing it

[@mira_ashhh]

@@garakstailorshop oooh! This one! Yeah, this is such a good part

[@000Krim]

This is quality content and edition

[@stratfordbaby]

0:53 Except Alexander Siddig/Siddig el Fadil was OLDER than 30 playing this character.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Siddig was born in 1965, _Distant Voices_ aired in 1995. So he turned 30 that same year.

[@ericsbuds]

HAHA!! too funny

[@Brick-so1ig]

Garak Was a Great Character But Quark is The Best Character in History of Star Trek....You Have Any Quark Videos i Should Look For on Your Channel?

[@mira_ashhh]

@@Brick-so1ig No, sorry( that's actually only DS9 video I have made

[@SeaDrive300]

Garak and Bashir are not "an old married couple". That title clearly belongs to the relationship between Bashir and O'Brien...

[@Krocxigor]

True, garak is the side girl.....poor miles!

[@thomaskortvelyessy]

Why not a happy moresome/thruple? 😁😜

[@McRocket]

3:28 - I just watched to see Kira, looking really feminine for a change. ☮

[@AaronMcCloud_Me]

The audio is out of sync. Just FYI.

[@JockeyStrappers]

Somehow this ends up fixing itself when I use bluetooth speakers lmao

[@rhocat362]

May be, but it's still really funny❤

[@syfyserpent6465]

the volume is fucked

[@saharadessert8917]

I really dont see them as gay, i just see them as really close friends. That being said, Garak is the best 😂

[@gg7704]

Watch star trek lower decks

[@saharadessert8917]

@@gg7704 Julian and Dax are canonically together, though

[@saharadessert8917]

@@gg7704 and not to mention Garak and his girlfriend, so I think Lower Decks did that just to be "inclusive" while throwing away the actual plot and lore

[@Tobeh]

@@saharadessert8917In an interview the people involved in DS9 said that the producer wasn’t ready to let Garak and Bashir be a couple openly on the show so the 2 actors, already committed to the idea, played them about as ambiguously as possible. In order to shut that down the producer eventually brought in the “girlfriend” for Garak and had Julian more forcefully go after Dax. They still maintained that blurry line as much as they could, though.

[@saharadessert8917]

@Tobeh if you'll notice, the actors will always says that the characters are gay. Doesn't matter what TV show or movie it is, they will always say it. It's not like you can trust anything they say, because you can't 😂 They only say those things to appeal to people and they're practically paid to lie about stuff. Just because an actor says the character they're playing is gay without the script showing that they are, guess what? That means they aren't and the actor is just doing that to make the gay people happy

[@magicsinglez]

If you’re not Kirk, Spock, or McCoy, you’re no one. TNG. . .more actors get more. .profiles. But DS9 is about Cisco and Voyager about Janeway. Yet, even in a world about the black guy or the white woman, you can still have your own independent lives. It’s all about these ‘minor’ characters quite often on DS9 and Voyager. It could be a bit like ‘lower decks’. We see more about what life would be like as part of the Federation for normal people.

[@cripto136]

I can't see them as gay. I do see the flirting, but to me, its just a silly game. i just don't percieve them as potential lovers.

[@thegamingburger5524]

It was 100% implied.The documentary on DS9, "What We Left Behind" confirms it 100% from both the actors and writer's perspective. The actors also did a reading of a fanfic where they were a married couple.

[@BottomBunkArt]

Plus Andrew Robinson flat out said his inspiration for Garak was because he wanted to sleep with Alexander Siddig

[@anneewazhere7578]

In the new game, a hologram of Bashir says that he knows what it's like to date a Cardassian. Not quite canon yet, but we hit the beta canon boys 💪💪

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

It’s okay, it’s just a joke really.

[@ReaperAngel666]

​@@BottomBunkArt Wait WHAAT?!

[@oolooo]

Always hated Garashir as a concept .But it was clear Garak was kind of obsessed Bashir .

[@mira_ashhh]

If think about their relationship from this side, I think they both were kind of obsessed with each other at the beginning, but it gone with time

[@Alamandorious]

Yes, because men can't just be best friends anymore. They _have_ to be a couple.

[@moldymulder]

The actor for Garak has said multiple times in multiple interviews that he specifically played Garak as a queer man infatuated with Bashir. Both actors agree on the couple. They even voiceacted an 'episode' during the quarantine where the two reunited. Men can be best friends; these two men weren't played as such, though.

[@SpookMrsSpooky]

You're right and it's sad, but as @moldymulder said, Andrew Robinson did say that he played Garak as a queer man infatuated with Bashir (good taste, btw). So in a way, they WERE a couple. This video IS brilliant too.

[@Alamandorious]

@@SpookMrsSpooky Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have complained, because with DS9 in that era it wouldn't be the 'look how gay we are', unnatural in your face nonsense of this era. It would have been handled with decorum and good taste, like the rest of the romances in ST of the time. But the character was not written that way, and all I ever saw were two good friends from very different worlds. To me, it was more about how friendship can happen between people of radically different backgrounds and cultures.

[@SpookMrsSpooky]

@@Alamandorious Oh I agree totally, and that's how I saw it too - and actually still do. it was much later that I saw Robinson's comments, and thinking back, that does explain that undercurrent that I could sort of see but dismissed as just Garak's personality and mannerisms.

[@Alamandorious]

@@SpookMrsSpooky See, I don't see it. The only time there was any sort of indicator was in the Mirror Universe episode...but then again, everyone was a little more...well, more 'modern standards'.

[@NerdilyDone]

I don't consider them gay. Bashir was straight for sure, and Garak's behavior was always manipulative. While I think to some level Garak does like Bashir, in their last encounter with each other, Garak seems uncomfortable with him being around, and rather dismissive. Someone once described Garak as "job-sexual", and I think that's at least kind of right -- Garak always pursues the person most likely to benefit him. He friends up to Bashir because Bashir is a doctor/friendly/making Federation connections, and he has a relationship with Ziyal because it pisses off Dukat.

[@GaySatanicClowns]

The actors thought it was gonna be gay and them Rick Burman told them to straighten it up a little.

[@valmakesvids3952]

I mean I could probably see where you coming from if Garak was like, actually super attached to his ‘job’ if by job you mean being a tailor vs any kind of nondescript spy career he was exiled from but still seems to be entertaining. But the thing is, we learn pretty quickly that being a tailor is kind of something he just does to pass the time, to give himself a purpose on what is otherwise a very cold, very bright very unwelcoming station he is seeking ‘asylum’ on (it would be?) And also, I don’t see how his relationship with Julian can really get him anywhere specific outside of Julian just generally being rather sociable. If Garaks wanted a good ‘in’ so much he would have tried to befriend some other character he is somewhat compatible with - probably Odo? Anyway, that is to say my interpretation is he does all of this with Julian because he is a fruit end of haha.

[@UncensoredScion]

honestly the need to do this is beyond weird as there's more chemistry between O'brien and Bashir than Garak. But still, they're all just friends, men can be close without wanting to bum you know.

[@mira_ashhh]

You still can, you know? Not watched this video? But I'm glad you did 😊❤️

[@UncensoredScion]

@@mira_ashhh I did the worst thing for a youtube video, I watched 30 seconds of it and moved away after downvoting. It helps kill the video through the algorithm spread, it would register this as being dissatisfied and unwanted by the community. Which is slightly negated by the comment interaction but the double of not watching all the way through and then downvoting eliminates that. So you're welcome lol

[@mira_ashhh]

@@UncensoredScion don't think it'll happen, but thanks for info :> ❤️

[@Shindai]

You haven't seen the actors acting out Little Achievements, then, in which they acknowledge the characters' husbandry? The actors are on board with the ship. Allow a little fun in your heart, it's not that serious friend

[@UncensoredScion]

@@Shindai I would if freaks like yourself would be okay with it when the reverse is done. But it's never that, if I were to suggest a lesbian character likes big dicks you'd call me endless names or have a gay character want that pusspuss. Because it's never about "having fun" its about twisting something to your viewpoint. That's why its wrong and always is wrong.

[@JonathanLiddane]

I love the captions......

[@rahulshah1408]

Totally agree. This is funny.