Why Gareth Southgate to Man United Makes Sense.

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James Allcott content focuses on Premier League, Champions League, EFL Championship talking about Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, Tottenham, Barcelona, England, Chelsea, Jurgen Klopp, Erik Ten Hag, Mikel Arteta, transfer news, tactical analysis and much more. James has made content with Mark Goldbridge from the United Stand, Rory Jennings, Ben Foster, Spencer FC, The Club, Thogden, JaackMaate, ESPN and many more.
0:00 What Really Are Tottenham?
15:00 Reviewing The Premier League Season.
21:51 Is Harry Kane Actually Cursed?
29:26 What Are Ten Hag's Problems At Man United?
35:22 Gareth Southgate To Man United?
45:50 Mark Goldbrige's Gareth Southgate Meltdown
51:30 Reacting To Your Comments
55:39 Flav's Barber Story
1:00:16 Signs of a good JAFFN
1:03:57 Football Rhyming Slang
1:07:29 The Last Time We'll Ever Do This Bit.
#PremierLeague #JLA #football

[@RhysJoness23]

Head over to James’ Discord server to get involved with the Player of the Season vote! 🗳️ 👉 discord.gg/jla First, ensure you have selected your club when you join or in the #roles channel. Then, move over to the #player-of-the-month channel and complete the form for your club to vote for your player of the season! 👊

[@Toonarmylad]

On the ball as always Rhys, brilliant work

[@UnionistUlster]

Mens football is shit.

[@danielcastle4048]

I don't see an option to set my role as a QPR fan. I can't believe James is asking me what my Prem club is

[@edford3354]

Dont need to do it because anyone that doesnt pick Palmer for my team is out of their mind crazy

[@HiddenGhul]

@@danielcastle4048pick EFL in protest

[@MrIsaacReed]

Ramsdale sits directly behind Arteta on the bus, head resting against the glass staring off into the distance with a loud sigh/huff every 10 minutes just to remind Mikel he’s there

[@harveycooper5098]

nah hes looking for squirrels and misses the bus

[@eazyollie9370]

People won't be laughing when Southgate leaves with a statue and his first signing Kalvin Phillips finishes his career as a two time Balon d'Or winner.

[@kai8697]

He’s gonna have a midfield 3 of k-Phillips, mount and Henderson

[@JoshPhilp]

​@@kai8697 I'd take it over Casemiro and McTominay

[@nickyjames9895]

The distain for Southgate as United manager doesn’t come from the fact he’s boring it’s the fact that he would be massively unqualified for the job, his club management is laughable, the only reason he got the England job was a lack of other candidates and even though he has took them to finals/semi finals he has never won an important game where he wasn’t the favourite, it’s his fault for sitting back for 90 minutes after going ahead against Italy, his tactics against Croatia made zero sense just having Henderson punt the ball to no one, against France his subs coming so late arguably lost us the game, Rashford getting single digit minutes when he was in great form made no sense. He’s got a golden generation of players making him look good, he’s simply not a good manager, that doesn’t mean Ten Hag is the right guy or there are a load of obvious candidates out there but Southgate would be horrible United manager. If he became available tomorrow would any decent prem team take him, I don’t think so so why should United?

[@troytheboy1985]

he would suck be sacked in under 6 mons so get him in

[@punctualwizard]

I don’t get how Jimbo does his little ad lib 35:50 We absolutely *do* know that. He got Boro relegated

[@troytheboy1985]

@@punctualwizard his a weak willed manager that cant put a stamp on a team reason why we lost the final to a italy side that sucks

[@punctualwizard]

@@troytheboy1985 I don’t disagree. Big Sam has already won something with this generation of players imo

[@seanpeek3051]

There’s absolutely no chance Jim would ever take him at QPR so why would he ever be qualified for the United job let alone a prem side

[@frazerfairbrother5418]

Man united fans with Southgate in charge and they're 3-0 down to Ipswich at home next season... so this is it? Is it?

[@_booth7992]

We're gonna be the benchmark for an embarrassing defeat all season arent we...

[@Serioustwister]

@@_booth7992 Toon fan. Can’t wait to welcome you lot back to St James’. You were class this season mate. Best of luck! 👍🏼🖤🤍

[@henrymorganx]

glad to see flav wearing his favourite 1930s motorcycle goggles for this one

[@dannybhoy9936]

Makes him look like the woman from bake off

[@MrJLanham]

Jim, you are absolutely off your head on Southgate. The reason for the vicious disdain is because he's absolutely pony. He should be winning things with this squad. We will look back on this squad, in the same way we do the 2002-2006 England squad, scratching our heads to how we never won anything. The FA continually put the wrong men in charge of these unbelievable generations of footballers because they want yes men, and that's exactly what he is. You put a decent manager in charge of this team and we win silverware. Footnote, he did try Club Management and was absolutely fucking wank at that as well.

[@alexcoyg3281]

Ancelotti at Everton reminded me of dating a girl who would fly a private plane to photoshoots in European countries, was a good time, but we both knew she was just waiting for the right kind of job to get available and Everton's players sense of humor would never be enough to keep him there

[@mikelyons6570]

James has such a southern England football fan view of Southgate. A man who has won nothing with England, who has a CV at club level which leaves a lot to be desired and is consistently out tactic'd by other coaches. He's waaaaaay below top 6 level in the PL.

[@troytheboy1985]

his not champship lv

[@GringoMatt]

He’s got the English media approach

[@_booth7992]

What the southern got to do with it

[@SamS-uv2ql]

He is better than Ten Hag tbh.

[@Shoesmurf]

"waaaaay below top 6 level in the PL"...... As is United

[@samuelduquemin7601]

Once a week, flav has a monologue about football that needs some motivational music behind it. He's the Gary vee of football KZbin.

[@8LukeS]

on my knees for these to be uploaded quicker to spotify jim

[@jackfuller6818]

preach, CBA to have KZbin open in my pocket

[@Serioustwister]

@@jackfuller6818 most relatable comment ever

[@cadetlimbo]

having to guess where you were up to when your pocket decides it wants to skip forward a little bit - bane of my existence

[@jackfuller6818]

@@cadetlimbo and I want my Spotify stats to be impressive, having to listen on yt does not help that

[@jackkirby9624]

Agreed, Jim & Flav can have 3 points each when I get pulled over for watching the KZbin video driving down the M6

[@Toshy93]

Southgate would be eaten alive as Man Utd manager. Any media support would crumble as soon as form dipped. Ole showed us that getting on with this group of players only gets you so far. Eventually they all start taking the piss and lose discipline. Sorry James but this is bizarre mental gymnastics. 😂

[@cooperharris4352]

“It’s not about winning” - Spoken by a true Spurs fan, Flav.

[@lewyevans757]

So glad James said it. Felt this way for a long time. People on KZbin talking about Harry Kane not having a winning mentality. These are people just like you and me, who have never been neeeeear being a professional footballer, commenting on literally one of the top 5 goalscorers in the world mentality! It’s ridiculous. And I’m obviously talking about Buvey

[@punctualwizard]

Loved the guest this week

[@punctualwizard]

Also the baseball ⚾️ is an absolute power move, James

[@leothecat9609]

What is Southgate's 'style' of football? England play with quite a lot of control and conservatively, but is that just because it's tournament football? What would utd actually be getting?

[@onionbard178]

i've been the group virgin before, got the shit ripped out of me as is standard. when i finally lost my virginity, the realisation that the jokes were ending was better than the sex. fast forward a month and i'm still getting virgin jokes. i asked what the basis was, and this whole time they were teasing me not because i was a virgin, but because i act like one. what was the fucking point. great pod keep it up lads

[@user-tg6vq1kn6v]

Southgate disdain comes from his bringing politics into football, his squad selection and his completely negative style of play with no Plan B despite having world beating quality in attack

[@cargoshipgaming]

Lmao wtf are you talking about with that first reason????

[@nate_wil]

Keen to know if James is going to make flav permanent or if he's going to keep him as a guest. He is a good guest though😂

[@samuelbrook-williams1529]

I had the identical experience to Flav. When I was young, I had long blonde hair to the point where people thought I was a girl. Didn’t help that I had 4 sisters and wore hand me down clothes. My mother took me to the hairdressers to get the mop chopped but her bloke was a swarthy Mediterranean type, who scared me. So it just wasn’t going to happen. But then there was Wendy. She was a nice welsh lady with plenty of tit to spare and even at that young age I knew they were my future. Within 15 minutes I had been shorn and suddenly became a boy. In more than one way. Thanks Wendy.

[@stevecrowe1489]

I think "Is this it..." would be a great bit. It's a bit like "I can't take this anymore" but it's got that balance of utter despair/anger definitely leading more towards despair. For instance, being on a terrible date and looking inwardly at yourself and being like "is this it" is very similar to Mike Ashley's Newcastle.

[@jackl1964]

You both are literally describing your mate Rory Jennings in the person who talks about Kane "not being a winner". He gets asked back for being a massive pleb.

[@StephenC1908]

Nobody would have said that 20 years ago, but because it can be clipped up and given an attention grabbing title it has become a popular stance.

[@thomasgrant8074]

Rory's a good lad tho

[@jackl1964]

@@thomasgrant8074 Na

[@reecec8789]

Really made me think, which goal hurts the most? Being 2 behind is a real gut punch, the game really starts to feel like its slipping. 3 behind, wow, if we come back from this it will be one of the best come backs in a long time. I still have some hope 4 behind, emptiness. Lets see if we can claw one back quickly 😭 5 behind, fuck, this is getting seriously embarrassing. Might be time to go for a walk. 6 behind, TV is off.

[@georgegp9143]

Entertaining Ange out is so silly.

[@abyysabyys]

Love you guys but...I think I can explain the anger, I felt it rising like a red mist listening to your defence of Southgate. In club management, Southgate completely failed and had a short stint a long time ago, and internationally, his "sucess" is very devisive. The anger comes from what can feel like gaslighting and massively underplaying his lack of experience and results by people like yourself and pundits (who often played with him as a team mate), strawmanning any dissent in that opinoin as "not sexy" is ridiculous and an example of this. There is no evidence he is a top manager, and it's particularly angering to hear people make a very surface level point to his "sucess" at engalnd, when we all know that as soon as you look beyond this surface level, fairly dismissive, takes about distance in tournaments, it's at least debatable, and at worst shows a pretty bad job. I'm referring to the Nations League performance we don't talk about, persistance with 2 CDMs, lack of attacking patterns with the 2nd greatest talent in about 40 years, confusing awful decisions in team selections and subs (maguire, henderson ect, rashford, sakha, foden and grealish sat on benchs for key games we lost), awful record against top ranked teams, too many failures in key games (Italy, France, Croatia ect), falling out with Ben White, what he did to sancho, rashford and sakha with the penalties, just to name a few. As a Manchester United fan even I am gobsmacked by the narrative that hes "restored harmony in the squad" when Ben White refuses to play for him! When was the last time we had a player fall out in this regard with a international manager? Again, it seems southgate has the narrative around him and people don't engage with the serious criticisms of him, that's the angering part.

[@eazyollie9370]

Poor Arry. Hes been Mullering goals in all season, no striker in Europe comes Klose.

[@punctualwizard]

Aumann, Kahn you stop with the puns. I Neuer fast with em but enough is enough, Mmmakaay?

[@CCasdsafafssvd]

James: " he has no club experience/management to speak of".... Middlesbrough's relegation ring any bells? James: "where does the hate for Southgate come from?" .. watching him mismanage a supremely talented England team will do that to you. Flav "... Ange has my full backing... Jim, your opinion doesnt matter as you have no skin in the game...." Flav "... get ETH out ... "

[@TheMarkyboy1234]

Flav: This is what is wrong with society, no one wants to listen to anyone anymore. While being a guest on a podcast, and clocking out by the end and not listening to the host.

[@xblissfulleex]

Haven’t watched this yet, but no. Absolutely not. And the links to him aren’t even from viable sources, Ineos just admire his relationships with his players

[@CallumWith2Ls]

Flav’s continual “Jim, Jim… Jim” is so wholesome when Jim was reading the bus bit😂normally it’s Flav trying to accidentally ruin their careers with unbelievable comments but Jim just continued😂

[@antonyallen8025]

James current preference for analysis is pumping it into the box

[@NathanSweeney]

57:00 Proper tickled me that has, tears in the eyes 😂🤣😂

[@Toonarmylad]

Class coupla minutes this

[@liamtaylor1973]

Great pod Lads, long time listener and Doncaster Rovers fan. I awoke today as I do most days and pondered football. Immediately, I was drawn to the home fixture tonight at home in the second leg of the league 2 play-offs, where Doncaster hold a healthy 2-0 lead. Getting ahead of myself somewhat I was thinking of ways I could make a weekend out of it for my family and make it so my daughters first football game would be the play off final. There was a moment of silence, a cloud began to darken the sun, before my Brain said to myself “One must beware hubris”. My search for hotels, travel arrangements and activities immediately ceased. To hear you say it today late on in pod today seemed very coincidental and brought the situation full circle. Where I am now extremely nervous much sooner to kick off than I would like to be.

[@liamtaylor1973]

This aged horrendously 😂

[@KBransco7]

I value James' opinion on football for everything except Southgate. I honestly don't understand when you look at statistics the way he does, he cant see that Southgate is just not a good manager. And United thinking Southgate is the solution to their problems is like taking laxatives to stop your diarrhoea

[@michaelgainford]

Genuinely a handful of laugh out load moments in this episode. The bus one is so true 😂 Fortunately, I'm a fully grown adult, now... so don't need to take the bus anymore 😅 Love the chemistry between the two of you. Chalk and cheese is an understatement.

[@nicky.71]

1:08:53 Jim's eyes widening in fear of what Flav's about to say about the Swedes has killed me

[@thomasgrant8074]

Simon Jordan is indifferent to team buses. That is, until Martin Keown embarks on a misty-eyed nostalgia trip about how great the Arsenal team bus was 20-25 years ago and Simon's insatiable urge to disagree with Keown's every syllable is ruthlessly evoked. Martin's about to reveal a story about Sylvain Wiltord's crucial role in the seating plan, at which point Simon interrupts to emphasise how *pathetic* any team bus-based nostalgia is. Simon is almost spitting with fury while pointing his finger at Keown and continues to rage, saying that "anyone who holds weight in something as *frivolous* as where one seats themselves within long-distance motor vehicles is misfocused, misguided, and frankly, not worth listening to." All the while, Jim White makes fleeting eye contact with the Talksport producers, pretending to care that this will probably get a few hundred views on KZbin. Jim cracks the odd hint of a smile as, in his head, he is harking back to the days when he would just have to report on transfer deadline day news from Fratton Park on Sky Sports News. Simpler times.

[@f12berlin43]

My guess is INEOS are trying to bring in Southgate to bring in a good environment like he did with England so that foundations would be in great for the next proper manager the best chance to be allowed to succeed.

[@chrisschehl6026]

You guys are so brutally honest, i find it so refreshing

[@UnionistUlster]

Can we just take a minute to appreciate that each week Flav's fashion sense is becoming more and more like Calvert Lewin...

[@CoconutJewce]

Southgate isn't a good manager. He's shown that by getting Middlesborough relegated 15 years ago, and then by the number of trophies he's won with an insane England team since then. If you're wondering why United fans don't want him, it's not haughtiness. Ask the question: Would Liverpool want Southgate? Would City? Arsenal? Chelsea? Newcastle? Spurs? If we're meant to compete with those teams, we can't be accepting mediocrity (where we are now, unfortunately). Obviously ETH isn't Pep or Ancelotti or even Klopp, but I still think he's a good manager that can at least get United to a point where we're comfortably top 4 every year. He just needs the time, some luck (i.e. 40-50 or so less injuries in a given season would be nice...), and a proper structure above him for the first since Fergie left.

[@michaelcrawford4593]

James and Flav debating the amount of food in 10 quarter pounders is hilarious bc it is, very clearly, 2 and a half pounds…

[@EPL_Scout]

This is my opinion as a United fan on the current situation - beware, it is a long one ... The majority of the fan base were excited by the appointment of Erik ten Hag. He has a very strong coaching background. He got Go Ahead Eagles promoted in his first season, been part of the youth set-up at Bayern and done well whilst learning from Pep, then did very well with FC Utrecht before excelling as manager of Ajax. People don't realise how much he improved Ajax, how they started to dominate the league and hoover up the domestic trophies. Not only that, they also overperformed in Europe, almost reaching the final in 18/19, then in 21/22 winning all 6 group stage games. Ajax hadn't been that side for a long time before he took charge. Ten Hag wants to play proactive, possession-based, high-pressing attacking football - which he did whilst at Ajax. This is what we want as United fans. He's also got a proven record of giving youth a chance - which we've seen with Mainoo, Garnacho and Højlund. His signings of Onana, Martinez, Malacia, Eriksen, Mount and Antony also lean towards playing that way. So in terms of style of play and coaching credentials, he's what I want in a manager. Maybe he hasn't proven it outside the Dutch league, but sometimes you take that risk. Klopp had only managed in Germany and Liverpool are about to appoint Arne Slot. Arteta had never managed before. And we've had the likes of van Gaal and Mourinho - they didn't work either. If we now look at the reality of his first two years at United. Last year we went from the mess that was 6th with Ole & Rangnick, to 3rd in the league. We won the league cup and reached the FA Cup final, as well as beating Barcelona over two legs in the Europa League. We also finished the season with the most clean sheets, so clearly something was working. It was a promising start, although we also had numerous poor performances against the top sides - beaten comfortably by the likes of City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle. But the hope was this season, we'd strengthen and be more consistent and competitive against our rivals. Unfortunately, that clearly hasn't happened and right now, performances are probably the worst since Sir Alex left, conceding so many shots on our goal and unable to control games. However, there are some reasons for this. Martinez, Shaw and Mount would've been expected to start most games - they've all been out for the majority of the season. Malacia, the back-up left back, has also been out all season, and for some reason we released Reguilon in January. So we've had no left-footed defenders basically all season, which makes playing out from the back much more difficult. Furthermore, Varane, Casemiro and Eriksen have also had periods out injured, so our defence & midfield has constantly been changing. People stress the need for a stable back four, and we haven't had that. It's meant relying on players like Evans, Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and McTominay - players who ten Hag probably doesn't want long-term and was open to selling during the summer. Their technical limitations also make playing out from the back and dominating possession even harder. Not to mention, Casemiro has dropped off a lot this season and his looseness in possession is hurting us - his signing right now looks like a mistake, despite his positive influence last season. Not only have we had problems in defence and midfield - Rashford has been out of form, Antony has off-field and on-field struggles. Plus, Martial's injury record and Sancho's behaviour has meant we've been unable to rotate the front line all season. The reliance and pressure on young players like Mainoo, Garnacho and Højlund isn't fair. They should be gradually integrated, not thrown in at the deep end. There's a lot of excuses there, and I do think ten Hag could have adapted better to the injuries. Recent performances have been absolutely shambolic, and if not for the injuries and the credit from last season, he deserves to be sacked. But I also understand him not wanting to abandon his principles of play and go too pragmatic. Ultimately, I think/hope he is still the right coach for Man United and he gets one more summer to prove himself. Let him sell the players that don't fit his style, sign a few that do, and hopefully start the season without any injuries. If performances don't improve in that situation, then it's probably time to move on. But look at Arteta, give him time and eventually Arsenal have got their reward. I hope the same will be said about ten Hag. With Onana, Dalot, Martinez, Shaw, Malacia, Mainoo, Mount, Bruno, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford and Højlund, we have a decent squad, although ~6 signings are probably needed to fill all the gaps. However, it all depends on what the new structure decide - Willcox, Berrada, Ashworth, Brailsford etc. If they choose a 'game-model' and ten Hag doesn't fit that, or they don't believe he has the capabilities to reach the required level, then I understand them wanting a new coach to kick-start this new era. Despite this seasons performances, I believe it is exciting times for United looking forward. We finally have the right people in charge of making footballing decisions. Hopefully we see a marked improvement in recruitment, squad building, player contracts etc. However, when looking at possible new coaches, I understand the negativity towards Gareth Southgate. He's done pretty well with England, no doubting that. Could he have done more? Possibly, considering we have the likes of Walker, Stones, Trent, Shaw, Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Sterling, Saka, Rashford, Grealish, Kane etc. More so than his personality, I'm more concerned his style of play is boring. Many England performances have been a bit drab. He likes to play with two 6's (i.e. Rice & Phillips/Henderson) and doesn't trust Trent at right-back. And because he's had limited coaching experience at club-level, at least not for a long time, we don't actually know his preferred style of play. Does he only play this pragmatic style to get through international knock-out tournaments? Or is it because he only gets limited time with the players so doesn't have chance to implement a more expansive, attacking style? Either way, it's a risk I wouldn't be eager to take. If they're going to sack Erik ten Hag, I'd prefer we go for a coach with a proven record of dominant, proactive, attacking football. Maybe Roberto De Zerbi or Ruben Amorim fit the profile. I'd be worried about Tuchel long-term, Potter concerns me after his Chelsea stint and Flick also feels like a risk, especially considering Germany's results under him. I'm not sure there's a clear candidate out there, but whether we stick or twist with ten Hag, hopefully we now have the right people in place to make the correct call.

[@thecentrecircle9032]

For football slang, we always call our local pub The Rio. It's called the Bird in Hand

[@his1ojd]

“I’ve never killed a chicken that didn’t deserve it.” Is Flav the UK’s most brutal vegetarian?

[@ArchieTulk1]

Lads we need Flames advice back. Nothing has ever had me as hooked as the weekly updates from Bagel Guy. Also who remembers dotty foster

[@xisckillerx7578]

Early morning JAFFN? Now there's a reason to not go in to work

[@CharlieYork]

Fair play to Aaron hunt, went from hanging out with chef Dave and simple Simon to playing football with Wayne rooney in his gaff, class bloke as well

[@benbarwick5329]

The problem with Southgate is that every other manager would be better than him

[@charliehodges2387]

One of my mates is a Leicester fan and loved Wilfred Ndidi for those 2 years he was good. Whenever he agreed with anything he would just say ‘Wilfred’ (indeed/indidi…)

[@George-xy4bc]

This is the best one out there in my opinion, only one I actually use

[@ypedegreef2646]

Things that used to make me hard: fifa 14 on the ps3, I absolutely loved playing career mode. Taking my beloved Pompey from financial turmoil to the promised land of the champions league. But the best bit was transfer deadline day. Pressing “advance” brought the time forward by an hour but also gave a subtle but firm vibrate which stirred something from the depths of my 14 year old loins

[@EPL_Scout]

Those are all great qualities for Southgate, but probably the most important is how good is he as a coach and does he fit the philosophy / style / vision that United need. That's where the reservations come in. They shout "Attack! Attack! Attack!" from the Stretford End - will Southgate do that? Will we dominate the ball and create chance after chance under Southgate? When we come up against the top sides, will we compete and win? Often England have fallen at the final hurdle, losing in tournaments to Belgium, Croatia, Italy, France, as well as disappointments in the Nations League. What is Southgate's preferred style of play? Does he have the stamina & motivation for an entire season, year in, year out? These are unknowns and personally, I'd rather stick with ten Hag than gamble on Southgate right now. Let Southgate join a mid-table Premier League side like a Crystal Palace, Everton, Brighton, Fulham. Then we can fairly assess his ability as a coach at club level, rather than taking a risk now. Can he do what De Zerbi, Howe & Emery have achieved? Will he be more like Moyes - pragmatic, counter-attacks, playing for set pieces? Manager of Man United is one of the most important positions in world football and we need to start making the right decisions with a clear identity and plan of what we want to be. Imo Southgate doesn't inspire me and poses serious doubts.

[@phillboley5776]

You could see Flav was checked out during the pod. Clearly James has agreed terms with a new guest for next season and this is not respectful. Flav has been almost as bad as the bottom 3 this year but he has offered us a great time in the past few years. Allow the slugs to say goodbye and announce a change is coming Jim. It’s the right thing to do and JLA looks terrible right now. This will give Flav the opportunity to work at Talksport this summer which will be great for him at his age.

[@henrydodson655]

James is right, that barber trip did happen to me that very same day. On the same day the new barber would spin me round on the chair and cut part of my hair whilst I was facing the sofas behind me, pushing me and letting me spin. The same barber refused to serve the Asian man behind me because he was racist to Chinese people. He said he didn’t like them because they own all the casinos in Manchester, and he lost 40k on roulette. He said he’d fuck up the guys hair if he had to do it and was glad the guy left. Awkwardly laughing along in fear of him screwing up my buzz cut, or worse giving me a skin fade. He wasn’t your traditional racist either. I had to laugh along as my life was at risk but I don’t subscribe to his beliefs.

[@alexcoyg3281]

Those two pods with Clive Palmer (gem of a fan) on "The Ripple Effect" were fantastic, thank you very much James❤

[@JamesLawrenceAllcott]

Glad you like them!

[@thepetermullins]

Southgate is the vanilla ice cream of managers. Is it iconic? Is it durable and the default choice? Yeah. But NO-ONE wants vanilla if there are literally any other options on the menu.

[@jamesgunn7]

Vanilla is the best flavour of ice-cream, so he’s definitely not that

[@user-lt4px7ld4u]

Southgate is like the psg of international managers.Gets to the semi final quite regularly,but everyone feels with the squad he has Southgate should take the final step

[@leifpallo639]

You know, Flav always says that us City fans barely celebrate winning trophies anymore, but in reality, it means everything to us. I remember when we were so shit that we never won anything. Flav's journey certainly is different since his team hasn't won anything in decades. Of course, he would say that when he feels so hollow at the end of every season because spurs are so shit.

[@ddmkthfc8555]

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[@steventhurlow794]

Calm take: Criticizing Harry Kane for "not having a winning mentality" isn't as lazy as it seems. As far as I'm aware, he's played in 15 semi finals / finals and only scored 4 goals (all in semis). After a while, you can't just blame lack of service or being the underdog team... you've got to get over the line at least once.

[@willlloyd9480]

Flavs description of the 4th goal was the same feeling I experienced as a United fan

[@EPL_Scout]

What I've seen from Iraiola this season is a team who prefer to play on transition. They're not interested in dominating the game, rather to play fast on the break. Whilst it can be exciting to watch, I'm not sure replicating that at United would work. We are expected to have more of the ball than the opposition, we can rarely play as the underdog. I think Ole tried to implement a similar style with pace on the wings, looking for space in behind. But I don't think that's a style of play that wins you the league. Pretty much every top team dominates the ball. City have been the best for years and thats because they control the game and suffocate the opposition. Also, United fans want pro-active, high-pressing, attacking football. Not sitting back and countering. Maybe teams like Atletico, Juve and Inter play a bit differently. AC Milan play a 4-2-3-1 and have been fairly successful - but they aren't performing as well as Bayer Leverkusen for example. And arguably are not considered one of the top 10 or 15 clubs in Europe - which is where we want to be. As a United fan, I'm tired of us not controlling games. You can see with City, Arsenal and Liverpool - the way to the top is to keep the ball. But not only that, you need a good rest defence, find the right balance. Spurs this season have dominated possession, but are too exposed on the counter. With a front 4, plus Sarr, Udogie and Porro in support, they leave Romero, Bissouma and Van de Ven isolated. Similar with Brighton - dominate possession, but leaky at the back. Arsenal & City have such a solid base to build attacks from. Whether it's White/Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko/Kiwior, Rice and sometimes Jorginho/Partey. Or Walker/Stones, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol/Aké, Rodri and sometimes Kovacic. Leverkusen have adopted a similar approach - they have Tah, Tapsoba, Hincapié, Palacios/Andrich and Xhaka. This allows them to keep the ball, but also attack with at least 5 players at all time. Real Madrid are a bit more fluid, but still have those 5 players that predominantly remain deeper and keep the ball i.e. Rüdiger, Nacho, Mendy, Tchouameni/Camavinga and Kroos. Ancelotti tinkers with the starting XI, but usually has Carvajal & Valverde offering support to the front 3 of Bellingham, Rodrygo and Vini Jr. Going back to Iraiola, the question would be, will he look to deploy a similar counter-attacking style at United, quite happy to surrender possession? Or would he adapt his tactics to the club and players available? If it's the first option, I dont think he would be the correct appointment for consistent, long-term success.

[@JuniorFi1mz]

Get in the Bin spurs

[@jake6379]

Arsenal a dependent on spurs to win the league. Without spurs, arsenal don't come close.

[@ccogdill152028]

I'd go Tuchel. But I can 1,000% see INEOS putting Southgate in as a bridge manager while they settled the squad, determined the style of play, and generally brought better vibes back to United.

[@paulcasey4282]

Finishing the season strongly I feel is very important. 2 years ago, Newcastle finished strongly after battling relegation. The next season they got top 4. Last year, Villa finished strongly after battling relegation and the next season they got top 4. On this logic, I feel Bournemouth could do well next season

[@TJD70]

I had a dream the other night that I was at Arne Slot's first game at Anfield and everyone was chanting his name to the tune of Baby Shark. Also, and this is just a suggestion, the Conference League theme tune should just be the opening to Thunderstruck but with Thunder replaced with Conference

[@olliehall5737]

Southgate talk is madness haha - the blokes biggest achievement in the game is cultivating Luke Shaw and Bukayo Saka’s friendship. International football is miles off the standard of top level club football and England under Southgate lose almost every game against any top side. We finish bottom half next season and have a Chelsea under Potter/Lampard esque season if Southgate comes in. Absolutely nothing to do with the fellas name or personality haha. Best option for this summer is tell Ten Hag he has to play the style of football we know he’s capable of from his previous roles and give him another go unfortunately

[@eldante4139]

I dont get how Flav, Spurs supporter, can want us to lose by ten against City. That’s not about supporting Spurs, that’s about hating Arsenal. As a Spurs supporter I want us to strive to win EVERY match. That’s what being a SUPPORTER is about. Fck every other side including Arsenal and Chelsea. Would I want them to win the trophies? NO! But it’s not about that, it’s about getting behind your own team and wanting the very best for THEM!!

[@DrSpasticat]

Pint of Luca, shortened from Pint of Luca Toni for a Peroni

[@artminusme]

As a City fan…. Southgate at United would be GLORIOUS

[@oliverboisen7475]

YEs. The joy of them getting relegated haha

[@DontH8Ivan]

Love watching Flav have to backtrack on spurs and Ange

[@xDriger]

I've got to be honest that first world cup and the semi final vs croatia where we were playing a 5-3-2 with absolutely no one marking either full back and we were just getting obliterated for possession and defending down both our wings and I could call it 40 pints deep 10 minutes into the first half and he never changed it was a big big big reason as to why this just disillusion with him started. Obviously recently he's started experimenting with 4 defenders and 4 offensive players and it's much better but he's also such a pragmatic boring manager with absolutely no expression picking safe players over form or talented players at creating chances and it's been shite to watch. Now he's got a top 3 player in the world in every midfielder and forward position and we're still not able to control games and create chances. For as much as you talk about the defense being weak, which it is. Argentina won the world cup with a back four of Molina, Christian Romero, Otamendi and Tagliafico ffs, it's not like they're worse that that!

[@SECRETORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR]

My god why are UTD going after bad manager after bad manager..Lols😂

[@jake6379]

They've found their level

[@StephenC1908]

United are an average club that were saved by two freakish managers. This is their natural level.

[@gda17.]

Last week I commented slightly critiquing the form of the JAFFN pod but i can say with my chest that after 5 minutes of this weeks episode I can already tell it’s gonna be a classic. UP THE JAFFN

[@jack28aug]

this weeks chicken segment reminded me of the mid morning matters episode where a special forces guy tells them how he'd dispatch a fundimentalist faction of the rspb lead by bill oddie, "we cleared the cave".

[@levicoker8937]

I hope United hire SouthGate so he can finally prove to James he just is not a good manager.

[@BILLYH0LLIDAY]

Once I was on a airplane to the big U S of a, surprisingly there was a lot of “bubbly” Americans on board. I had a aisle seat and about 4 times during the flight, this (let’s say more to love) sized woman got up and squeezed past me. I did offer to get up and move out the way but she said as I was small (12 at the time) I didn’t have to. I don’t know if I was fortunate or unlucky to get a face full of boobs rather then the other side.

[@ThaiDayss]

Driving one day with my girl in other seat. Had to park in a difficult spot. Did a the best parallel park ever, then got a stonker on because of the park and they way she looked at me. Say no more, the handbrake went up and so did we.

[@sionparry1529]

Can we please have a segment with Flav and Mike Dean having a sit down to discus around the most effective ways to kill chickens. The most renowned chicken slayers in the game.

[@BanSummers]

My family are Spurs fans and my middle name is Tottenham. When I moved to Portsmouth aged 6 almost 25 years ago, I started going to Pompey games. Since then I’ve seen us win lots of trophies, including all EFL league titles and a FA Cup. Question is: does becoming a Pompey fan over my Spurs family past constitute being a glory hunter?

[@callumrandall9183]

It’s the little chuckle that James makes too his own jokes that does it for me, only you can see the joke and him happy with it whilst flav hasn’t got a clue what’s going on

[@FactEaze]

Am facinated by the analyst over here saying kane has no fault in Bayern not winning anything. I Said the exact same thing when he played for spurs. Hes great and everything. Good striker. But he doesnt fit spurs or Bayerns playstyle at allll. He takes up space for the midfielders and kinda does as he want. If Haaland did the same. Kdb wouldnt get any space and they wouldnt win shit. If kane did the same if he played for city. He would probably score a good amount, but not enough. Watch kanes heatmap. Hes like a big grandma on thanksgiving

[@zirbto5749]

Bayern had a lot of problems but they were in defensive midfield or defense and coaching. Kane wasn't involved in things. Maybe he isn't perfect but Bayern won last season with choupo starting Kane whatever deficencies he has is an upgrade. He was one of the better Bayern Players .

[@FactEaze]

@@zirbto5749 for sure an upgrade. I barely consider the last one as an actual striker. But not the Main guy at Bayern at all. Might be the best player. But doesnt suit the system at alll

[@Jimbobiscuit]

I'm willing to give ten Hag the benefit of the doubt over many of the problems at the club right now. What I cannot forgive him for, however, is his seeming incapability to set up a balanced midfield. And we can't blame injuries for this because it was clear from the pre-season that he wanted to play Mainoo, Mount and Bruno as a midfield three. This is a horrific midfield combination with next to no defensive acumen at all, and we get ran through every single game without exception. And whats worse is he's had the answer in Amrabat but refuses to start him. Baffling to me Jim.

[@vicjames3256]

This is wild - you can't see why we don't want Southgate as a manager? You guys don't even want him as the England manager. We've been through 4 other managers. Is Southgate going to succeed where Mourinho failed?

[@edburt9067]

love jaffn!!!

[@nicke1742]

I ❤ James & Flav

[@NathanSweeney]

1:02:43 In bits here ffs 😂😂

[@kian9371]

Southgate got Middlesbrough relegated, england relegated in the nations league. Has only won against worse countries. Lost against croatia, Belgium, france, italy. The only win against a decent country in the euros or world cup was germany and croatia in the euro group stages. He’s got an elite england squad and he hasn’t shown anything that impresses me.

[@BadManthefirst]

I’m so glad flav’s become a regular! Get him back next week

[@JoshPhilp]

On the Southgate topic, I agree with James. I dont understand the hate about Southgate, i actually think he'd do a decent job

[@samuelloification2749]

Surely the reason everyone doesn't want Southgate is just that he has almost no background in club management. Not anything to do with excitement, he's just not qualified

[@jackelly09]

I think James is totally wrong on this one. If it was a Spanish manager with the same record as Gareth Southgate, we would all still say he was shit. I think oddly and ironically James is the one that can't see past his biases

[@EightiesDoubtProductions]

Some of my mates used the term "Freddie" when they saw a young (but not too young) bird... Freddie Ljunberg

[@kesters7366]

As someone who supports palace and has had to deal with this entire narrative of how did PALACE beat man united 4-0. Whilst also any time i open twitter seeing big six fans helping themselves to our squad like its a closing down sale. Make it make sense

[@Tom-nr3dr]

8AM Jaffn wow

[@bigburrito2373]

it's amazing how Tuchel lost his wife and re entered the dating world and it instantly transformed him into a terrible manager. I saw the moment it happened at Chelsea, and now when you look at how his Dortmund side played compared to his Bayern side you would never guess it was the same man.

[@punctualwizard]

33:21 so the common denominator has been the mismanagement of the club at the owner/board level for over a decade. Sir Jim even said as much himself: "In the last 11 years, Manchester United have had a lot of coaches and nobody has been very successful in that environment. That says to me there is something wrong with the environment. It is not constructive for me to blame anyone, it's just a fact. My focus is on how I change that environment to get the best out of the coach and squad." I think INEOS keep Ten Hag, at least through his contract. It is the prudent decision while taking hold of the wheel. And I won’t be surprised if with proper structure and support that Ten Hag goes on to be successful.

[@_mcslash]

I cant help but wonder about all the chickens Flav has dispatched and what each one did to derserve it.

[@reubenbraman]

The hate for southgate is because of his lack of ambition to make this incredible squad of attacking talent into an attacking team and his inability to not play favorites

[@ccogdill152028]

The two things saving ETH are A) injuries B) the politics of INEOS. INEOS and Ratcliffe have been clear that United are in for a rebuild. United are going to be, at best, slightly better than this season and, at worst, sitting in 12th next April. Why hire a new guy now when the supporters, who are pretty impatient, are just going to turn on him before Christmas?

[@Scott-qi3wv]

Haaland doesn’t sit on the bus. His mum drives behind it with him sitting in front pretending not to see everyone looking at him

[@CoconutJewce]

I love watching Goldbridge to be entertained. Lots of his commenters get all pissy about him saying that he's on a different intellectual level, calling people stupid and whatnot, but I think it's fucking funny. lol I mostly agree with his takes on United but idc either way because he's an entertainer to me.