Garmin Epix Pro vs Fenix 7 Pro // Which is the Best Garmin Watch for you?

[@DesFit]

Make sure to check out my full in-depth reviews of both these watches! Garmin Epix Pro Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3KnaYt5fchsf5o Garmin Fenix 7 Pro Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGHPc5JqgM6cbNE

[@GalangPaa]

Im having trouble deciding between fenix 8 47 solar sapphire or fenix 7x solar, fenix 7x is on sale right now. Do they have difference in terma of processing power/chipset?

[@mikem4215]

Epix sapphire 47mm - went on a 10hr 35 min hike. Had multi band on entire time, used maps, gesture mode. Ended activity with 58% battery remaining. That is the longest activity I’ll ever do and epix did great

[@riverstones-wd40]

Hope you gave it a massage 🤘

[@angelalegre9064]

Still using my fenix 3 ten years later, but I'm considering making a Black Friday purchase. Thanks for the review!

[@gertwallen]

I decided for the Fenix, I go to the grocery store once in a while and I have peace of mind having a watch that will stay powered during the long wait line at the cashier.

[@davidc6640]

😂👍

[@mikehenkelman2111]

ROFL

[@riverstones-wd40]

😅

[@silversurfer5400]

beside the fact that there are many very useful information in this video i really appreciate how clearly you speak and how you manage to transport all the content to the viewer. great work

[@DesFit]

Glad to help and appreciate the kind words!

[@TahoeRnnr]

Went for the fenix 7 pro sapphire solar. Value the outdoor visibility & battery life more. Actually like the MIP screen that it doesn’t look like a phone screen and feels more like a watch. Being a paramedic I hope the ECG feature comes! Upgrading from the 6

[@dnice362]

Agree

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

That’s it. I don’t want a TV on my wrist. I think the ideal Garmin would be a Fénix with added ECG and make/take calls. Garmin do that and you have my money

[@ARonin-cq5zr]

​@@dnice362⁹⁹and

[@starpub1376]

Epix pro seems much better quality display and functions

[@binthegrove]

How'd you like, or how are you liking? ECG cool?

[@nuts77]

Been using the Epix for a year. It's a great watch but I've now switched back to MIP with the Fenix 7 pro now and very happy with it. Amoled is awesome when you're looking at your stats sitting on your couch :) but the wrist gesture was a real pain to me when running (and riding !). I find the improved, always on display on the F7 pro fills the gap and is more flexible in all use cases - even if less contrasty and saturated. So I guess I'm not an amoled guy after all :D

[@frankysour]

If they only did a 7x pro with plain gorilla glass and the new improved MIP... (I'll post this up to when Garmin gets sick of it and makes happy to have me shut up 😁)

[@georgiancernat]

I had the same reason annoying me with an Apple Watch Ultra 1st gen. Not to mention the poor battery of that one. So I decided to sell it and buy a used Fenix 6 but I fought priced 7pro and decided to get it for the touchscreen and upgraded things it offers. Used to have a touch Garmin a couple of years back and although I love the buttons, sometimes it’s really nice to actually have the touch for me.

[@Mdogbrown]

@@frankysour Isn’t that what the Fenix 7x pro solar is?? Do you mean titanium body with gorilla glass?

[@kt9493]

Watched like 15 videos for the decision between the two. Yours was the best, most informative and professional although English is not my first language. Thank you! Opted for the Fenix 7 pro sapphire solar because I couldn't stand using my Apple watch without AOD. And the Epix with AOD has horrible battery life for a Garmin watch.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Enjoy your watch!

[@matiosa-l1d]

Few thought about Epix 2 Pro 51mm vs Fenix 7x Pro Quick introduction: main activities are climbing, mountaineering, and ski-touring. Secondly, I am also running and cycling. What do I love in Epix? - AMOLED screen - colors and deep blacks and also contrast. I was looking for something like that! I thought that this is it! Then I started using it... and I noticed that some particular things are irritating me: -gestures - not performing perfectly, sometimes the screen was turned on when I didn't need it, and when I disabled them I had to punch the screen or press a button which was not so convincing in -particular situations during an activity or not during the activity (e.g. boring meeting and you would like to discreetly check the time :P) -gestures - lack of possibility to add them as a shortcut in the keyboard or to the action menu -when I performed an exercise indoors I did not need any backlight so the dimmed screen would be sufficient -when I was biking and put the watch on the handlebar the screen was dimmed and the visibility was much worst, so I thought - nice I have a beautiful screen for maps, but damn I am not able to check that :) The situation is much better when I was doing training in the evening. -I am not going to complain that AMOLED has bad visibility on a sunny day, because I was able to get any data that I needed, but worth to notice that MIP gives you better readability To summarize: -if you are going to use the watch as the only device to navigate/get training data during cycling - pls consider if Epix is a good solution for you -if you are a climber, alpinist, or skier in some cases gestures are also really not comfortable. I have a lot of situations when I just glance at the screen, so gestures are not an option. In the MIP screen in most cases I see everything which I need, only by minimally adjusting the angle of the wrist, in AMOLED in most cases I have to use gestures. It is not a problem but pls notice that if you would really like to perfectly fit the AMOLED to your daily routine you have to manually turn on/off gestures, always on display, etc. There is no scheduler to do that - gestures. There is also no option to make a shortcut for that. I can imagine using Epix as a second watch for my needs, but still, technology and current solution have some limitations, which I would like to highlight here.

[@Mdogbrown]

THIS! I am trying to make this decision right now. I currently have the Fenix 7 pro AND the Epix pro on my other wrist. I’ve been wearing them all day. I was actually surprised that I preferred the fenix 7 pro! The amoled screen is FAR superior with map details, HOWEVER I really don’t NEED all the details. I just need navigation. The fenix is just better when you’re hiking. It’s easier to see, I don’t have to exaggerate my wrist gestures. When I’m doing a class 4 I can just look over at the fenix. I imagine having the Epix and having to do gestures to get the screen visible lol. AND the fenix is always on. So you know, a month of battery always on. It’s a tough decision but definitely think about how you’ll be using your watch! I think I’m gonna sell both and get a Fenix 7x pro and be done with it.

[@2649]

Appreciate the input!

[@evilphuk]

@@Mdogbrownwhat did you end up doing

[@Mdogbrown]

@@evilphuk I sold the Fenix about a month ago and regret it. I kept seeing reviews where overall, the amoled was better in most scenarios. In my month of wearing the Epix pro 51mm, I’ve found I prefer the fenix. I’d say, yes, the amoled screen is better indoors, shade and night. But in all those scenarios the fenix was just fine. The deciding factor for me was the gestures become quite annoying especially in direct sun. I can read the amoled screen in direct sun, but I had to flick the wrist hard for gesture then really focus on the information. With the Fenix I NEVER remember thinking twice about seeing the info on my watch outside. So, what I’m saying is, when I need the information the most (hiking and being outside) the fenix has been better for me. I will end up selling the Epix and picking up a fenix 7x solar (non sapphire) because of less glare, less expensive and I put a screen protector on it anyway. Hope this helps.

[@Mdogbrown]

@@jamesconors88 Yes, I sold the Epix. Both the Sapphire and non sapphire models of the Epix pro and Fenix 7 pro share the same exact features. There’s a difference between sapphire models in the 7 (non pro) though. The Sapphire models have all the maps pre downloaded and have 32gb of internal storage I believe. The non sapphire models have 16gb internal storage and you just connect to computer and download maps. Other than that, no difference outside materials.

[@ro8inmorgan]

Finally someone, who mentions that the displays difference is not just about MIP bad but good battery, Oled good but bad battery. There is a lot more too it and MIP actually offers allot of advantages in many other ways other than longer battery life. This is really the best review I've seen thus far. Some people really don't seem to understand what their reviewing and basically just go for oled because it looks so shiny. But in the end of the day what use does a very nice looking screen has for use on a watch?

[@DesFit]

Thanks!

[@richardzhang350]

I totally agree!

[@frankysour]

Best Possible comment to the best Possible video on the topic, this time I am here not only to compliment Des but also Mr. Ro8inmorgan :) I personally absolutely do not need a crazy long battery life (though of course is a great bonus, admittedly) for my normal use, I would have no issues charging the watch even a couple of times per week, however I never went back to an AMOLED after trying my first MIP watch, just because I like it better, and definitely hate an active (meaning, light emitting) display for a watch, it just does not look right to me. But Garmin is actually killing the transflective ones by starting to only propose them with solar layer on top... I get that this is very cool and very useful for many people, but to me it's only making the screen appear duller and less attractive.

[@toneabet6252]

So what's the difference between the 2 screens?

[@DuKsOmI]

@@toneabet6252 it’s probably a good idea for you to rewatch the video, he’s mentioning several things.

[@60beats44]

Thank you Des. So much time invested in creating your videos and with this one addressing thoughts of so many of your fans. How much less complicated was life back in the days when I purchased my Fenix 6 Sapphire. The Garmin range was far less diverse and there was no buyer’s remorse. I still don’t know if I will buy the Epix over the latest Fenix as an upgrade, but your video(s) and all of the comments are greatly appreciated. Born in the late fifties I remember monochrome TV sets and how content we were, compared to today to use an analogy. LED vs OLED, what size, etc. and showrooms full of side by side display models, leading to more uncertainty than decisiveness. I grew up in West-Berlin and remember talking to relatives on the other side of the wall. With them always carrying an empty bag, they joined each and every queue outside of any shop, being thrilled with whatever they would be able to buy. Not wanting to go back in time and rambling on a bit. Now, Epix or Fenix. Damn …

[@DesFit]

Great comment, 60 beats. It's astonishing the technology we currently have and how far we've come. We should feel fortunate that we have these first-world problems! :) Also appreciate the kind words - thanks!

[@maximeculea]

This is by far one of the smartest and complete comparaison between epix and fenix, thx!

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Thanks!

[@jgriffin411]

So I have the Fenix-6 Pro & also had the Epix-2 for several months. The Epix-2 got returned & I have 51mm Epix-pro on the way. The bigger, screen, battery & flashlight tipped the scales for me.

[@dazewithadrian]

Before I would’ve gone with the MIP display on the regular fénix due to the extender battery life, but with these new advancements in battery life…I think I’m swaying more to the light side.

[@sasonbraha4599]

To me the MIP display is just better, I can just glance at my watch to see the time without any gesture (plus I like the way it looks without back-light). With an Amoled I'd have to turn on AOD and walk around with a flashlight on my wrist (and consume more battery).

[@vpnconsult]

I am the Epix Pro 47mm type of guy. Excited about the flashlight 🔦 and the improved hart measurements.

[@anthony-us3pn]

This video, along with your in depth reviews really helped me make my decision to go with the Fenix 7 pro. For me (migrating from older Apple Watch) battery life was key as I was sick of losing charge by end of day, earlier if a heavy workload day. The advantage of better screen was in my opinion limited based on the fact I have a phone with me most the time which is always better vs small screen on a watch. Thanks so much for your videos - really helped me navigate the options.

[@jeremy9071]

Just got the Epix Pro 51mm. Coming from Galaxy watch 5 pro. Absolutely love it

[@d.k.4882]

Thinking about the same. Do you still like the Garmin? Much more sport and adventure capable than Samsung, but smart wise less capable. Isn't it a downside?

[@jeremy9071]

@d.k.4882 still love it. But also getting galaxy untra 7

[@Agustin23c]

Had an Epix Gen 2 for a year and I've now switched for a Fenix ​​7 Pro. I loved the Epix, but the gesture mode was sometimes a pain in the a*ss while running or cycling.

[@rabomarc]

Still using Fenix 5. Fenix 7 was the 1st generation I seriously considered upgrading to. Now it’s even more tempting.

[@Wellness-Wealth-Wisdom]

I upgraded from Fenix 5 to now the Fenix 7 pro. 🤯

[@cristiansoaita4516]

@@Wellness-Wealth-Wisdom so how was the experience? I am myself a Fenix 5 user and considering a 7 pro upgrade

[@catalinstavaru5355]

Thanks for the review ! All I wanted as an upgrade for my Fenix 7 was a brighter MIP display and a better HR sensor for weight training, it looks like Garmin could have easily called this the Fenix 8 since those are some of the most important components in a smartwatch. As for the MIP vs AMOLED, I tried both options over time and after the initial wow factor is gone, the MIP is simply much more usable, just glancing at the watch without a gesture is simply natural and a screen continuously emitting light becomes distracting for me and those around me especially indoors where I do spend most of the time.

[@AlumarsX]

Except the MIP display is a lot more jarring if the backlight does kick on (its not very readable unless its getting direct light) since it lights up the entire screen in an ugly casio way. The oled black levels really make it seem like the information just pops out. Just a thought

[@cherylparrish1179]

Will the Epix only work outside if we " gesture"? lol

[@_J.F_]

I just bought the Fenix 7 Pro. I was sort of halfway thinking about getting the Epix Pro but at the end of the day I prefer the extended battery life as well as the less bright watch face of the Fenix 7 Pro. I previously had the Fenix 7 and I have never found myself in a situation where I could not see the screen when I wanted to. I set it up to turn on the wrist gesture automatically after dusk and the backlight to either 10% or 20% and that works perfectly fine. Most of the time I tend to use the watch outdoors for running in the daytime, and even on a grey and gloomy day it is crystal clear. I never regretted getting the Fenix 7 instead of the Epix 2 and I am sure I will not regret getting the Fenix 7 Pro instead of the Epix Pro. At the end of the day it is, however, really just about preferences regarding screen brightness and battery life as the watches are otherwise nearly exactly the same.

[@starkestrength9273]

I had a Fenix 7 Pro for a week and traded it in for the Epix. Loved the vibrant screen on the Epic. Turned "always on" off and I use my HRM 5x a week for about 60-90 min a day and record workouts to the watch and it still lasts three weeks! The "red shift" is an awesome feature for darker settings.

[@davidparrish2100]

I have been a Fenix faithful since the 3. The reason that I watching your video is because amoled has caught my eye. I love the vivid colors and how it just pops. My7X solar is still relatively new so struggling with spending that kind of money but tempting.

[@Ramnathk]

One of the best videos i've come across comparing the two watches and focussing on just what causes all the confusion. Thanks a bunch

[@DesFit]

Glad it helped!

[@tanakaobi]

Once again, you make by far the best videos about these watches on the internet! Thank you!

[@DesFit]

You’re welcome and thanks!

[@Speoneshot]

Exactly the kinda comparison I wanted. Great ! Many thanks. Fully detailed review, good job.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help!

[@danscoular]

Nice review once again, and a good idea to focus on this specific topic separately. I much prefer MIP in the sunlight, and in darker environments when night vision is important. I also appreciate a watch display that isn’t distracting.

[@DesFit]

Thanks Daniel and appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@myasochka]

In performance kayak community (eg surfski, icf kayak racing, etc) mips screen watch is the only option. You’d place your watch in front of you on the hull + hr strap on you. While on the water epix screen becomes unreadable bc of direct sunlight + black background + dimmed backlight + drops of water. I’ve got both watches and only take Fenix on water.

[@JohnnyGification]

I have a Fenix 6 and a Epix. You cannot beat the MIP display on the Fenix under the sun. The Epix comes close but not close enough. I still purchased the Epix. Damn you pretty amoled!

[@fendermon]

😂

[@marcofioretti5691]

I love the efficiency concept of the fenix’s display, even if I don’t come close to ultramarathons, sky running etc

[@AHungryHunky]

Im with you there Des, I'm starting to lean more toward the Epix 2x Pro as a prefered upgrade. I prefer MIP, but the routable mapping is the main reason I bought a Fenix 6x over other options, and the reason I went for the largest size. The Epix 2x with AOD on has such a similar battery life to the Fenix 7x that its less of an argument. The more detailed maps will go a long way when Im out and about, and I really like its stock watchfaces, they seem more adventurous and less like a sportscar dashboard like the Fenix faces do. That said, I will absolutely miss the always on display and how much easier on my eyes the MIP display is. Its definitely a "go and try them for yourself" scenario. I do think the Epix will struggle to see the predicted battery life though, if you interact with your watch a lot, similar to a phone, constantly waking the watchface will drain its battery much faster than predicted, where as the Fenix being always on will make no difference and have a more predictable battery life.

[@mobbniggazz]

Thank you for your comment. Couldnt choose actually epix pro or 7x ss now clear for me its 7x

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

The screen looks great, but the difference in battery life is substantial, and that was the tipping point for me. I wear my watch all the time, and only remove it to charge it. I didn't want to have to take it off and charge it every other day.

[@AHungryHunky]

@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 I actually got to play around with them both not long ago, and decided on the Fenix myself. There isn't anything terrible about the Epix, it's just seeing both displays side by side I prefer the MiP on a watch, it's much easier on my eyes. Like I said in my original write up, I like the Epix native faces more, but the Fenix doesn't have bad faces and the display is more pleasant to look at for me. The super high contrast on Amoled is actually kind of straining to me, but my job involves staring at screens all day so that may be a factor to me. Now to wait on a 40-50% off sale. Any time now, any time.

[@MarGol990]

I decided to take the Epix Pro, think that amoled display is better than the solar function.

[@jeremy9071]

Same.

[@TheKandiman1]

Did you get from AMOLED what you waited?

[@MarGol990]

@@TheKandiman1 it's fantastic

[@Tiandihui]

I found your reviews as the best ones I read on the web, thank you!

[@DesFit]

Glad they were helpful!

[@Jinuyr]

I left my fleet of Samsung watches for the fenix 7x Pro Solar Sapphire due to the increased battery life. I don't consider myself to be very active but the amount of notifications I get yields only 5-7 days worth of battery life on a default configuration of the fenix watch. Overall, it's way better than having to charge my watch on a daily basis and miss out on important notifications.

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

Oh Man. I was saying over the past year after having both a Fenix 7X and now Enduro 2 and trying the Epix 2, that if Garmin made the Epix in 7X size, I will 100% take it and not return it. I love the screen but the medium sized 7 screen is too small for me. That .1" makes a big difference, the screen and now the battery in the larger Epix size is much easier to live with! PERFECT WATCH!

[@bsmukler]

I’ve used the Fenix/Tactix series for years and currently have the 7X Sapphire Solar. The 51mm Epix Pro is arriving today and I am looking forward to comparing the screens indoor and outdoor, just as you discussed. For me, the inclusion of the 51mm size option and the serious jump in battery life, as well as the flashlight, make a huge difference from the Epix/Epix 2 options previously available.

[@Utahguy906]

What did you find out?

[@bsmukler]

I’ve found that, in almost all lighting situations, the Epix display far exceeds that of the Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar. If you try specifically to arrange for sunlight shining directly on the displays, the Epix is slightly subdued but still fully readable and actually about the same brightness as the Fenix. Also, the estimated battery life of 11 days with always-on display and around 1 1/2-2 hours of GPS activity daily is right on the mark. In fact, it seems to be slightly better than estimated. Bottom line: the Fenix still has the crazy battery life (usually 20-some days for me), but the new Epix Pro (51mm) has battery life that is easily sufficient for almost all circumstances. Hope that helps!

[@SarahNyman84]

@@bsmukler THX!! That made up my mind, I think... First reading people not seeing the Epix display at all, or having big "problems" with it "on the run" made me lean over to Fenix, but I suppose they have used the timeout function and do sports where they need to see the screen really fast... If I´m a hobby runner, hiker, workout and "every day life" - user, I should be satisfied with the Epix right? I have the Fenix 5XS today :)

[@bsmukler]

Yes, and in fact that’s what I have found in using the new Epix. It is perfectly usable in direct sunlight and it is rich and easily readable in most light. It’s a simple matter of which way your wrist is facing when you glance at the watch. Another pleasant surprise is that the battery life is excellent (at least 11 days with always-on and multiple GPS enabled workouts per week).

[@cden-ec7cy]

Are you still happy with your Epix and visibility? What about night sleeping? I also have a 7x and looking to order epix pro. Thank you

[@wyim3677]

Hands down, Epix Pro 51mm because I can still get 31days of battery life by turning off the always-on display. I use to have the 47mm Epix Gen 2 and I thought the battery life was good at 16 days with the always on display set to off and I was concerned the 51mm might be too big for my wrist. However, after having the 51mm Epix Pro for the last week I'm very happy with my choice.

[@alexanderwarden7649]

how large is your wrist?

[@Vitaliy_0073]

How often you charge your Epix 2 pro when your watch maximum or middle in use ? Want to buy one of these two to upgrade my Fenix 5x. Thanks.

[@jimboavery8444]

DUDE!! Great job and finally someone shares their personal opinion!!

[@DesFit]

Thanks!

[@JeffSSartor]

My argument. If you are getting the 42mm size. It's gotta be a Fenix. If you are going 47 or 51, then it's gotta be an epix

[@boyanbc]

And I went for... Marq Athlete Performance Edition. the perfect Garmin watch for me personally. Yes, the old MIP non touch screen display. I went to see the Epix and Fenix 7. Hands down the Marq is in a class of its own by build quality. The MIP is amazing in my view. It has all the sensors I need and more. For the rest I have my phone and the Garmin Connect app. Oh, and the huge discount I got (brand new) brought the price down to that of Epix 2 Pro. Honestly, the Marq wasn't even on my radar, but I did put it on my wrist in one shop and I couldn't stop thinking of it until I bought it last month. So thats that.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Great review! I just ran a race in BRIGHT sunshine and the Amoled on the Epix Pro was perfect for me. Having been a HUGE Fenix fan for many years, I can't see that model even lasting now. The Epix is now the flagship Garmin IMO. The market for the Fenix is going to be so limited going forward - the vast majority never got close to using it's full functionality and bought it because it was "top model" - now it's not.

[@DesFit]

Thanks! I think there's definitely a need for MIP for certain use cases as well as just ones preference (especially based on comments on this video) and glad they still offer both options, but I'm on the same page as you with the Epix Pro. Hope the race went well, Mark!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

@@DesFit 40:10 Secs for 10k at 102kg - nice PB thanks! With regards MIP - I wonder how many people (with MIP displays) see AMOLED and just assume it won't match their rufty tuffty outdoor lifestyle - it's almost "too pretty" .....which I thought last year. I think a lot of people, if they use them side by side, will end up AMOLED - especially on a 51mm watch. It's simply very clear in 99% of conditions. Be interesting to know Garmins sales figures on these new units!

[@Str8Up180]

​@@MarkLewisfitness just ordered the Epix 2 Pro 51mm and I'm excited to compare it to my Enduro 2! I have a feeling I'm going to be selling my Enduro 2 😅

[@lazydaze3134]

Awesome review. It's the Epix 2 Pro 47mm for me. I just got mine in the mail today. Coming from the Descent MK2s I was kinda worried it would be too large. Happy to say it fits just right.

[@DesFit]

Thanks and enjoy!

[@FirePrank6]

I binged your videos last couple days trying to decide my first smartwatch, I ordered the 42mm Epix Pro. Smaller watch is just noticeably more comfortable everyday for me and decided the battery life doesn't bother me because my phone is always going to need charging first, and during my backpacking trips it can sip on a battery bank at camp. I do a lot during the night where the AMOLED is preferred, as well as I suspect I will use the Maps/Navigation features more than any of the sports features, which I'm still skeptical of. It shows up today, thanks to you and DC Rainmaker for doing these videos.

[@DesFit]

You're very welcome. Enjoy your new watch!

[@gertwallen]

Fenix 7 Pro all the way, I'm training for a marathon and if all goes well I'll complete 42K in 25 days, so I need good battery life to last until I reach the finish line.

[@chrisbrennan2208]

Great information on these. You really break down the differences to make a proper purchase

[@DesFit]

Glad to help and thanks!

[@jmfettig]

Great video. I think I've watched it 50 times as I've been torn between the Fenix 7 pro and Epix pro. I've had the Fenix 5 living on my wrist since it first came out in 2017. It has been through a lot and its a beast and I love it. Could probably get another year or so out of the battery but with Tokyo, London, and NYC on the calendar for 2024, decided to take the Garmin black Friday sale and get the Epix Pro. Just arrived today. Not 100% sure I made the right choice as the battery life might bug me too much. I'm very shocked on how light and comfortable the Epix is though.

[@executioner7400]

You get epix pro,right?

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

How much did the sale save?

[@richardsweeney6317]

I jumped in today and purchased the Epix 51mm sapphire. Can’t wait to get this watch. I currently have the AW ultra so I will be interested to see how much better this is for fitness as I love AW as smart watch. Great video 👍🏻

[@andreaspape8987]

Will you keep/use both?

[@richardsweeney6317]

@@andreaspape8987 probably keep both for a while but I can’t be dealing with two watches so I will decide which one to keep in time.

[@MiegmaishMenas]

@@richardsweeney6317 very curious of your experience. I switched from Garmin to Apple when AW6 released, because of the integrations and because AW gave a more predictable battery performance (garmin would hold for a week, but would drain 50% with one workout, so I would avoid tracking unless I just charged the watch), AW I just charge daily. Now I switched my bike computer to Garmin and took out my garmin watch for the HR broadcast as the AW broadcast functionality is clumsy. This brought me back to Connect and the recovery timers, steps etc. As apple and garmin share data only one way this feels like missing out on part of the garmin functionality. But I’m not a super athlete, I don’t go into too much data on my computer. So I’d probably benefit more from the apple watch as a smart watch with some fitness tracking. Would just love native HR broadcast and daily activity/workout import into Garmin connect.

[@jasontieu3737]

so awesome that they released these. I've always been a fenix owner and have closely gravitated towards the Epix due to the AMOLED screen. With the size update, it's really closed the gap for me to move to the Epix.

[@BT-lf6qc]

After seeing your review, Des, I'm going to go return my 7x pro and get epix pro 2...I got the 7x pro in thinking about the solar option...but the battery life between the two is almost identical...so why not get a much cleaner, brighter AMOLED screen like Apple and Samsung watches, but with all the bells and whistles for all the work out options garmin provides. I do want to say that if anyone reading this, i do believe in the sapphire version, so I plan to get that version of the epix watch...thanks Des for clearing it up for me..

[@HeyImRod]

Very insightful, thank you. I went for the Fenix 7 Pro.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Thanks!

[@jarethpalmer8672]

Thanks for the great video. Seems like for me I'll just wait and see which gets the better deals in the coming holiday season, they seem pretty balanced with pro's and cons.

[@ChadRex1]

Des- As always great review. Very informative. The best part of the newest Fenix 7 Pro is the improved MIP display, 30% brighter backlight. Too bad the Enduro 2 didn't have this improved display. I prefer the MIP display to the amoled. The battery from Enduro 2 with the improved MIP display of the Fenix 7 Pro would make the best Fenix yet. I guess i'll have to wait until Enduro 3 comes out.

[@shembreakey]

Epix Pro 51mm as 11 days always on and proper torch make it a no brainer IMO!! (along with the far superior display)

[@juicev828]

Thinking of upgrading from the 955 solar to the Fenix 7 pro. Wanting a more premium feel on my wrist.

[@asaito2612]

Thank you so much for your review and comparison videos. Being a hiker and trail runner, I was definitely curious as to how topographic, relief, and weather maps would appear in both the Fenix 7 Pro and Epix Pro. Needless to say the Epix Pro is the winner in my book and the customisability of settings between all or specific activities vs general usage aids in being able to tweak battery usage.

[@DesFit]

Glad to help 👍

[@DJGarcia]

Another trail runner and hiker and the maps are a big plus. Was also on the fence and love my Fenix 6X but think the Epix is a great upgrade. Red shift for night hikes/runs is another big plus. Thanks!!

[@Belgarathe]

Had originally the fenix 3 and didn’t love the display. It was great outdoors when it was sunny. But indoors it wasn’t great. I would say if you using it as everyday watch or you find yourself mostly using it indoors or cloudy/dark times then epix is the way to go. If on the other hand the longer battery life and your primary racing in the day in a set course the fenix can’t be beat. Don’t get me wrong both can used for both cases. Also for me I find the red shift much less disturbing for my sleep than the light of the fenix to read the time. I also love the built in flashlight that I thought was a gimmick at first. Using red flashlight allows me to quietly get ready for run or restroom without disturbing anyone. Family actually thought I had skip a training day.

[@braddavister137]

I had the fenix 7x and got sent a 7x pro because of a warranty issue. A friend from work bought it so I could buy the epix pro 51mm and for some reason I’m having a hard time and am wishing I kept the MIP display. The amoled display is beautiful but still love the MIP in full sunlight more

[@PatrickBurnett-c4v]

Helped me decide between Fenix and Epix. Golf program dictates brighter display for texture! Done!

[@TheNinjaman16]

Thanks for all the info, ive been on 2 month long camping excursions and really am looking for possibly one of these but im having such a hard time to decide which one. Even after the video, i still cant tell.

[@corytheobald2166]

This is a great video. I'm currently agonizing over the 51mm Fenix 7x Pro or the 47mm Epix Pro...I think if I'm being honest I like the display of the Epix much better, but both are fine. My hang up is I can buy the larger Fenix or the mid-size epix for the same price thanks to some of these Black Friday deals, and that' price is my limit (51mm Epix is just a touch too much at $870+ after sales tax). I'm not sure if I'd rather have the screen I can live with but the bigger, slightly cooler-looking watch, or the one with the better display. Such a crisis for this coddled man. I love how you've laid things out for us. Great job and it does help much, so thank you! Now don't even get me started on how much I love the Instinct line but just can't because my old man eyes are going bad ;)

[@2006mrderrickh]

What did you pick?

[@corytheobald2166]

@@2006mrderrickhI ended up picking the Fenix 7x pro - just loved the size on my big wrist and do like the MIP display despite it being a bit dimmer indoors.

[@Matt_M516]

Many thanks DesFit for this great review and for your other watches video reviews. I'm new to sports watches and Garmin. Decided on getting a Fenix 7 Pro! So far I really like it! Very impressed. I prefer the MIP over AMOLED at moment for a sports watch and a watch in general. Thanks again. :)

[@foetor]

Thank you for the video! Instead of clicking back to the Homescreen you can touch the touchscreen with you whole hand (cover up the screen) and boom your are at the homescreen again.

[@matd25]

Oh nice, Thank you !

[@christianmazza]

Great comparison. Also thanks for showing the different watchfaces, haven't seen anyone else do that. I'm now leaning towards the Fenix 7 Pro after seeing the stock watchfaces on the Epix

[@DesFit]

Thanks and glad to help 👍

[@acanfield87]

Thanks for objectively comparing the differences here. I'm also liking the looks of the AMOLED display on the Epix Gen 2. I'm worried about the battery life for general use, though. Charging more than once a week with several runs might get annoying. But it looks like that might be manageable through the Epix display settings, though.

[@InvisibleStormRider]

I’m sure most would agree, the Epix Pro is gorgeous! If I had the extra cash the Epix would join the collection. Because of how I use the watch, the Fenix 7x Pro wins for me. I don’t bring a watch charger on my trips, but still use the gps functions. At the time of this comment, I am currently traveling on the other side of the world from my original position and really appreciate the battery life and low profile screen. I suppose my biggest takeaway is “What is your ideal combination of features?” The choice is much easier to make once one has created their own combination. That’s also why I don’t use any other Watch I’ve researched. Fantastic video and incredibly informative without throwing too many stats.

[@Ryan-ft8dz]

Do you see any issues with the GPS visual quality of the Fenix?

[@InvisibleStormRider]

@@Ryan-ft8dz MUCH lower saturation of color. None of the colors pop. From what I can see, that’s the biggest trade off in exchange for battery, but it never hinders the quality of information. Everything looks clear, and the screen looks even more amazing in direct sunlight. Pictures don’t seem to capture that effect well.

[@mitchellcream1339]

Epix pro for me! Been wanting the epix but was a but disappointed it missed out on the flashlight feature. Now it's got that feature it's an absolute no brainer! As soon as I've saved up enough I'll be going to get it 🔥

[@billchen303]

I’m still on Fenix 6, will probably consider upgrading to epix pro if I reach my workout goals of 2023

[@srd2408]

Just purchased the fenix 7 solar sapphire at a $200 discount. I upgraded from the fenix 5. I am very happy with my new fenix and it will last me for years to come. When I finish my nursing program maybe I will treat myself to the next generation of the fenix. Cheers garmin fenix fam!

[@MagnanimousWaffle]

Thanks for the video. Lots of info, clear, concise and easy to digest -- For me I will go for the Fenix 7p -- I like the MIP screen and better battery life. Plus it is $100.00 cheaper compared to the Epix 2p.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help. Enjoy your watch!

[@rahulmirlekar2279]

Thanks for your video, after doing research I purchased Fenix 7X pro Sapphire Solar. If you compare both, Fenix 7X pro have better specs and features and most importantly battery life. If I am on camping or on trail or visiting somewhere else for more than 10-12 days, I no need to carry a charging cable , as we already carry mobile, laptop, camera etc. chargers. So I feel Fenix 7X Pro is convenient. With regard to display, Fenix have great display too, and it does better job when using maps, in my perspective.

[@robertlucas8599]

Thanks for the review Des, you are my go to guy in this Space, ready to upgrade from Fenix 5XS,and was leaning towards Epix2Pro and this video helped to confirm my decision.

[@DesFit]

You're welcome!

[@ted363636]

While I understand that a vibrant screen might appeal to many, let me tell those who can't decide between AMOLED and MIP, why I had to sell Epix and return to the dull Fenix: - I couldn't see seconds hand and every second HR reading without gesture and in recent years with Garmin I got used to it - While wearing long sleeve I thought that both screen and battery are needlessly deteriorating (AOD is the only mode I use as gesture is a huge step backwards in terms of functionality) - On sunny days I had to use gesture during activity/everyday use and with polarized shades the visibility was really bad - Turned off screen while laying on the table and constant dimming on the wrist simply pissed me off - I didn't see the benefits of solar energy while in the sun. I also think MIP is environment friendly as it will last many years while AMOLED will rather sooner than later get burn in.

[@amarshah3712]

I am trying to decide between the two watches your comment on always on vs gestures I think helped me a lot

[@Foyzur32]

I have both the tactix 7 pro and epic gen 2. T7 for flashlight use, but epix for everything else. Now the epix has the flashlight. I'm getting rid of both. Regarding the gesture mode... I switched the gesture mode off. Instead it uses a dimmer screen on stand by and brighter on gesture.

[@paranoidandroid77]

+1. Sent a 965 back for all you mentioned. I was lured in by the reviews, then the real world test was a train wreck.

[@luc7976]

Great summary. I also don't like that all data pages are inverted white text on black background. In theory they could add option to change that but seems they are concerned with burn-in (although maps are fine for some reason maybe since they move more).

[@der_sascha]

Thank you for this comparison of these two watches

[@DesFit]

Very welcome!

[@ivannorona9261]

Your videos are better than DC Rainmaker. He talks too fast! Gets annoying after 10 mins. You need to show more map usage though. That's the bread and butter of the watch. In my opinion.

[@Fearonthebridge]

I ended up choosing an fenix over the epix one factor was battery life for ultras. But given the improvements in amoled screens and battery life give it 3 years and they will be incredible

[@massi888]

thank you for the video comparison, great content and very professional

[@DesFit]

Thanks so much!

[@yazr1712]

Bought a Samsung Active years ago and just now looking to get something a bit more detailed... friend suggested Garmin and here I am spending the past 4 hours researching all the different watch options. lmao. So crazy! Thanks for your video though, it helped.

[@DesFit]

Glad to help!

[@GR-sd4zw]

The issue that rarely gets discussed is the life expectancy of amoled v mip. Given the cost of these watches one should expect at least 10 yrs life. The burn-in issue of amoled leads me to the Fenix 7 Pro, unless I am mistaken. I suspect that most people who buy these watches have money to burn so life expectancy is probably not an issue……

[@TheFredo33]

Very nice review 👍🏼 Hello from France ✌🏻

[@DesFit]

Thanks!

[@farazs579]

Thanks a lot for the video. This was super helpful.

[@DesFit]

Happy to help!

[@soundmeester]

Thank you very much for this great overview. Your videos are very helpful to me the last years. I am using the Epix 2 for almost a year now and I like it very much. On the other hand I like the new Fenix Pro as well so I decided to order it and use if for the summer months and outside and I will keep the Epix for winter and inside. 🙃

[@cherylparrish1179]

Great idea.

[@justinf58]

Great review! Thank you for helping me decide. I appreciate that you also give your honest conclusion at the end of the video. Because I like the ability to use maps the Epix is a better choice for me. I also don’t feel the selling point of solar makes a huge battery life difference.

[@DesFit]

Thanks and appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

[@spinnekopje]

While the amoled display attracts me a lot because my main use is also maps, I don't think I will switch over. I don't like bright displays and I notice that during night the display can already feel bright to me. I have my fenix 7x for a little over a year, so I won't buy another one soon, I'll wait at least until the next release. I guess they would also need a handle bar mode on the epix versions before I can even consider an epix. I've read multiple times that the screen goes very dim or off when on handle bars or similar and I do use the watch that way while cycling longer trips (I don't have a bike gps). I must say I'm curious about the usage of the solar for the backlight on the fenix, that might be a very good option for me.

[@Niteor52]

je confirme : epix impraticable en mode carto sur un guidon . j’ai revendu la mienne pour une fenix 7 a cause de ça

[@fendermon]

Epix would be totally annoying on handlebars. The screen would constantly be shutting off. On wrist it's fine for me when bike commuting.

[@GOLFADDICT65]

This is my first smart / fitness / health watch....why does hardly anyone mention the awesome golf stats on this watch ? EPIX PRO I just ordered this watch in sapphire cause i am an avid golfer.....its was a huge selling point for me,, plus i wanted an everyday smart / health / sports watch all in one...lookin forward to getting it.....great video....cheers from Canada

[@antoinedg007]

None of both will tick all your boxes. Both have advantages and disadvantages. At the current state of technology, no watch can be built that unites the best aspects of both watches for every scenario. You will have to make a choice and accept compromises, unless you buy both (but you'll never wear both at the same time). My take is that of you're a person with an active lifestyle, go Fenix. If you're more of a fancy-watch-person, or like to have the most bright and shiny stuff available, and occasionally do some sports activities, maybe go Epix. To me the only real advantage of the Epix might be the map, at least now with the overlays. But then, if I really need a super detailed map, I'll take my phone with a much bigger screen anyway. At the current state of technology, I chose MIP for my watch. And I'm saying this even though I wear my watch 24/7 and also use it a lot for its smart features. And even if the next watch would have the same MIP screen as the Fenix 7XSS, which is not as visible as that of the Fenix 6, and reportedtly not as good as that on the new 7 Pro, I'll chose it anyway. But now I already know that the next generation will be even better than what I use now, so kudos for that. I returned my Epix Gen 2 after 2 weeks of usage without regrets, before getting the Fenix 7. I have never looked back. The amoled screen has too many drawbacks for me. Bad vision with some sunglasses, no real always-on display, nagging wrist gestures needed to activate the screen, the constant back-headed fear of pixel burn-in... I get it, there is a huge WOW-effect when you see that screen for real for the first time. But for me it disappeard very quickly after a few days, and it became annoying due the the things I mentioned above. Also, I found the map too detailed, and distracted me from what I actually wanted too see. For more details, as I said, I use my phone anyway. And I would also take my phone with me, even if I had an LTE version. Having a backup device is never a bad idea. I'm only interested to see how Garmin will go forward with both the Fenix and Epix lines co-existing side-by-side. I think it causes too much confusion, as one can tell by all the discussions about the subject, here and elsewhere. Before the Fenix 7 and Epix Gen 2 came out, it was already not always easy to chose between the Forerunner and Fenix lines, although these 2 were more clearly aimed at different types of people/athletes. Now with the Fenix and Epix, it's even more complicated, it seems. Especially with the Pro versions, where the "only" big difference that remains is the screen (both have flashlights now, and the battery on the Epix is much better than before). I imagine people getting both, and returning one of them. This can't be good for Garmin.

[@Shodan-0101]

Damn that Oled screen is beautiful!! Thank you for the comparison!

[@ForrestNH]

Great review, and I appreciate hearing about your personal preference.

[@DesFit]

Thanks and glad to help!

[@antongustafsson8713]

For a natural look I had to go with the 47mm, I really wanted the 51mm Epix. Anyway I went for the Epix 47mm as comparing battery life towards the Fenix 7 pro 47mm, it barely is any difference and you get a really fancy screen that looks better in situations like parties, weddings, birthdays and whatever social event. Be good looking at event and fearsome on the trail, no brainer for me to pick Epix. God I wish I had bigger forearms... that 51 mm really is a masterpiece.

[@cherylparrish1179]

SO the 47mm Fenix 7 gets that much less battery time than the 51? My wrist it too small for the 51. Thanks

[@Anuj_Tomar]

Having owned multiple AMOLED watches in past, i will choose MIP/transreflective display anyday, battery life + easy readability over eye candy anyday

[@nieval8917]

Great video as usual. I like the benefits of MIP but on the fenix 5 it's so grainy I find it off putting. Does the screen on the fenix 7 pro look similar to the fenix 5?

[@Bendysser]

Just snatched a "used" Fenix 7 Solar Sapphire for ~500USD. Great upgrade from my Fenix 5 plus. Would definitely not be worth getting the new 7 pro instead - but I will miss the flashlight...

[@Tiandihui]

תודה!

[@DesFit]

Thanks so much!!

[@talvien9061]

Something I have no one ever seen talking about is how long the battery will last overall. So with Epix consuming more power and therefore being charged more often, how many years will the battery stay above 80% capacity compared to the Fenix. I guess there should be some experiences with the first epix gen meanwhile.

[@dimi-88]

My Epix pro 51mm with all open it last 25 days man

[@R3zk0]

Whit AOD on?

[@fendermon]

No@@R3zk0

[@Foyzur32]

I have the tactix 7 pro and the epix. I'm selling the epix for the epix pro, just for the light. Will keep my tactix 7 for the rare long treks...

[@dariuszlis4412]

I just wondered why Garmin can't improve the resolution of MIP. I have a epix 2, previously had a Fenix 6 and really liked that specially outdoor. Im sure they could improve the MIP technology. I like the new watch faces on epix pro I hope mine will get some update soon. I was jealous to seeing the flashlight on new epix pro but still happy with my epix 2 . Thanks for good review as usual, regards .

[@blazbasic6694]

Dude, what awesome hoodie are you wearing? Thank you for the great in-detail video.

[@DesFit]

It's a capilene hoody from Patagonia 👍 Quite literally one of my favorite pieces of clothing. Thanks!

[@VinayMenon-YT]

I am trying to decide between 47 mm and 51mm Epix Pro. Am leaning towards the latter simply for the longer battery life. The only thing I am unsure about is the size of the watch. I currently switch between the Epix Gen 2 and the AW Ultra.

[@lifeofkoda6157]

Im in the same boat i have the epix 47mm but dont know if i want the pro 47 or pro 51mm.. the more battery life of the 51 is pulling me but idk how would be on my wrist.

[@DesFit]

If it helps, I have a 185mm circumference wrist I tend to prefer the 47mm case size but can still wear the 51mm without much discomfort. The only time it bothers me is while mountain biking where it sometimes hits my wrist bone due to the rough terrain and I also occasionally notice it while sleeping.

[@cherylparrish1179]

Great video. I have been watching them for hours and this is, by far, the best comparison. Does the Epix have to have a feature on where you have to turn your wrist? If it is always on, that should not be necessary. I hate my Apple watch because charging it every day is annoying. Thank you so much.

[@DesFit]

It has both the wrist gesture to wake up the display as well as always on. Thanks!

[@hardmtnbiker]

I agree with you that the Epix Pro is a better display and one of the best sports watches from Garmin. I would also consider the Forerunner 965 if you’re ok with a 47cm watch.

[@habibi750]

The 965 doesn’t have the EKG app

[@hardmtnbiker]

@@habibi750 good point. I ended up getting the 965 after watching and reading many reviews. I’m very happy with it. Maybe a new gen Epix Pro or Fenix 8 Pro if I get bored with my965