GARMIN RUNNING WATCH BULLYING YOU? EASY FIX

[@Damian.Williams]

I'm relatively new to running... As an ex powerlifter my cardio consisted of lifting weights fast 😉... I never thought of the 5k as 90% endurance and 10% speed 🤔... I will definitely increase my long runs (slowly over the weeks) hopefully I will get faster I'm 47 too...

[@ThatRunningGuy]

The long run is so important, just remember to run it nice and easy (ideally in zone 2). You’ll be surprised how quickly you will improve over the 5k Damian

[@Damian.Williams]

@@ThatRunningGuy I definitely will thanks for the advice...

[@runningwithdr.andrewdpt9177]

Great tips Chris. I really like the intro. I’m 43 and chasing sub 20 in the 5k. Totally agree on the speed work on how important it is.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Cheers, appreciate your feedback

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Started using my bike to do aerobic zone ,it’s like doing mathetone. But not having to stop

[@ThatRunningGuy]

👍 Win Win

[@felixthespaghettifan7541]

Talk about it, I haven’t ran in days and I miss the vibe of going from 22 minutes to 17 minutes in the 5k and my 16th birthday is right around the corner

[@alfromtx245]

Great stuff! I've been doing mostly easy, with one faster tempo run per week. But I think I need to mix in some 5K speed like you mentioned. One thing I have noticed is that Garmin really doesn't like it when I do an easy long runs on a hilly route. I like doing this because 1) it's peaceful and I really like the scenery and 2) if helps me with my ability to maintain an appropriate effort level, regardless of terrain. I ran 11 miles this morning. All easy. Heart rate was in zone 1 most (85%) of the time, with some zone 2 (9%), never getting close to the top of zone 2. Garmin called this unproductive. Maybe because I do track runs once a week and this type of effort would have resulted in a faster pace at the track. Perhaps?

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Sometimes it’s easy to forget why we run and become a slave to the watch. If you like running where it’s peaceful and scenic, then just turn of the heart monitor for that run. The reason your watch is saying it’s unproductive is you need to be running in zone 2 to build your aerobic engine on your easy runs. Not slower or quicker. And your faster runs in zone 4/5 depending on the session.

[@alfromtx245]

@@ThatRunningGuy That's for sure! Once I started doing easy runs by RPE, I stopped looking at anything during the run, other than distance or time. So I guess I'm running these a little slower than Garmin would prefer. :) For faster sessions, it takes my heart rate a long time to get that high. I mean it will hit zone 5 at the end of a hilly 5K where I'm giving it everything. Or if I'm doing some 5K longer intervals towards the end of a long run. But it's hard to get there. Thanks for your response. Very helpful!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

@@alfromtx245 on intervals and tempo sessions you will mostly be in zone 4 until fatigue sets in. If you doing fast reps/vo2 max session(200m reps etc) then you will hit zone 5 much quicker

[@alfromtx245]

@@ThatRunningGuy Oh wait...I'm using the 80/20 zone classification. Their zone 3 is the same as Garmin's zone 4. So I set my zones up accordingly. In this case, I'm actually hitting the zones you suggested. At least on the faster runs.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

@@alfromtx245 to be honest it can get very confusing even when using the garmin and other watches. It’s called zone 2 training but zone 2 should actually be between 60-75% max heart rate. So on my garmin it’s actually high zone 2 to low zone 3

[@roblovicz1257]

lol 54 and my Garmin bullies me all the time.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

😂

[@roblovicz1257]

I can never seem to get my high aerobic value where it belongs according to Garmin no matter how hard I run. I can run the whole 5K in the yellow and red zones it doesn't seem to help.

[@no_excuses]

Great advice Chris, your 3 tips are brilliant💯

[@ThatRunningGuy]

👍 Keri

[@pplusk.]

Thank you so much for this. I go for easy 5k runs and my Garmin keeps badgering me with 'unproductive'. I have started to just ignore it now.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

👍

[@BradleySingerRuns]

some wonderful training advice here. i love the track session with my club. its a massive help. this for me is the most important ones.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

You can’t beat the track👍

[@Senseigainz]

My easy run pace can sometimes take me out of Zone 2. May be its the accents? Should i stick to the garmin suggested pace or heart rate?

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Zone 2 running on a garmin watch is between high zone 2 and low zone 3. (Doesn’t make sense but that’s garmin for you)

[@Senseigainz]

@@ThatRunningGuy thanks. Even if you mod the HR zones by lactate test?

[@ThatRunningGuy]

@@Senseigainz I’ve never done a lactate test. But I would imagine that if you have adjusted the zones then they should be correct

[@thorfinn1609]

What if i need to be a work horse? Training for an ultra?

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Ideally 80% of your runs should be in zone 2. But understand that this can be challenging when incorporating hills

[@thorfinn1609]

@@ThatRunningGuy i’m for the most in sone 1-2. Hills are more like sone 3( a bit 4) at the end. Training for my first trail Ultra. 65 k- 2500 vertical m. But i find it hard to improve both my 10k times and my stamina for Ultras. Maybe one can’t train for both?

[@ThatRunningGuy]

@@thorfinn1609 Not really. Ultra marathons: workhorse 10k: 80% Easy runs 20% speed work

[@thorfinn1609]

@@ThatRunningGuy thanks. I’ll keep builing stamina. I have 4 Ultras coming up this years. 🙂😀

[@ThatRunningGuy]

@@thorfinn1609 4 💪 1’s more than enough for me…probably 1 to many

[@TheOldUltraRunner]

Great tips, Chris!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Cheers Jay, appreciate your comments👍 Can’t remember if I asked if you’d like to send me a channel intro video for my other channel Keeping Up With The Runners

[@TheOldUltraRunner]

@@ThatRunningGuy, yes you asked me. I have just been slow to create the video! I will try to get it done today or tomorrow! Cheers!!!😀

[@timeonfeet]

I’m glad my watch isn’t advanced enough to tell me my runs are unproductive but it does tell me to move and beeps at me!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Lucky you

[@TheHighDreamsYouTube]

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[@martinblack5021]

My Garmin seems to think I’m much fitter and faster than I really am. It overestimates my goal times for 5k, 10k , HM and Marathon by about 20%. I was exhausted after an 18mile long run the other day and Garmin had it as unproductive! So I take my watch analysis with a pinch of salt.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Mines the same Martin…it thinks my vo2 max is 62😂

[@PhilyBowden]

I’d also say that your watch often has no clue when it says unproductive/peaking/detraining etc… I came back from a few weeks off and was very unfit last year and my watch told me I was peaking 😂

[@ThatRunningGuy]

My watch is my biggest fan…thinks my vo2 max is 62😂 Watches are only more accurate if you always wear a Hr monitor. While reading this I just got a fine (low emission zone) driving to a XC in Richmond the other week🤬

[@DanRuns]

Clicked for the thumbnail. Stayed for the content.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

It was all about the guns

[@nhacvangchannel4479]

Hello 🙋‍♂️ Beautiful upload enjoyed watching always stay connected 🏵

[@eriktred]

Your video thumbnail made me laugh. My Garmin recovery advice is horrible. I would have never run an ultra if I followed its advice.

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Glad you liked it! The garmin recovery advice might as well say to go and hibernate under a stone for a few days 🤣

[@DevRunner]

My Garmin is far far off of reality - If I run on the treadmill I get no credit for fitness, the heart rate is always too high etc etc. Ultimately, I run by feel! Keep pushing Chris!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

I only use mine now to upload to Strava, turn all the other features off

[@henryjohn4142]

Honestly think that my watch hates me!!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

😂 my watch is my biggest fan…says my vo2 max is 62

[@TheRunningFred]

You heard him then folks, sound advice from Chris, again!

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Cheers Fred. I hope all is good with you

[@DaveCYFF]

intro too long keep it shorter

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Thanks for the tip👍

[@julianengel492]

Stupid clickbait