Garmin Varia bike radar - worth it? Full review RTL515

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Such fantastic stories in the comments - worth reading.

[@darrenhitchcox6345]

When the Varia first came out, I thought what a gimmick. Then my wife got me one for a birthday and I adore it to the point that if it broke tomorrow, I would replace it the same day. I can see further back than you can hear and give lots or warning. Yes you do sometimes get some false positives, but I fully forgive these and I know this unit has saved me previously. I was cycling down Bristol Portway which goes from under Clifton Bridge to M5 and I was in the buss lane when the unit flagged up red. I had not heard any traffic and made me look back to see a BMW not in full control doing a speed in excess of 100MPH. I was just about to move over and had I not had that warning, I would not be typing this now. Awesome bit of kit

[@mickp3000]

I can confirm it does work fine with Wahoo Elemnt Roam. Just did a 211km ride on mostly country lanes and it was really great. Agree you still need to look over your shoulder... at one point I couldn't understand why the vehicle behind was taking so long to pass me, then I realised it was another cyclist going just slightly faster than me... sure he wasn't doing a 200k+ ride though :)

[@Q26Video]

I live in the Somerset countryside and have tried the making eye contact idea - I find that some drivers look you in the eye, seem to acknowledge you and then drive straight into your path. Some research suggests that drivers see cyclists in kit as ‘less than human’. I’ve just been given one of these devices and am looking forward to using it - your review is a great help, thanks! (Mortimer Rhind-Tutt)

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Well that’s not very nice of them! I still try to gauge intention for eye contact, especially at junctions. I think the research you mention was done by Dr Ian Walker. I talk to him about it in the Always Another Adventure podcast episode 44. The differences are there but quite marginal. Nothing can really help if the driver is being an arse.

[@CalumHardie]

Have used these for about 5 years or so now. Would agree with most of what your findings are but for me it is its ability to allow me to relax whilst out on the road and enjoy my cycling. It’s got my back. Also, the degree of danger warning if the closing speed of vehicle approaching is dangerously fast.(dark red) Since getting this, there has been no real incidents from behind as it helps you to work with the traffic especially in headwinds, also it gives you confidence knowing the road is clear behind or at very least where traffic is before you maybe head to the central reservations to turn right. You are able to indicate your intentions and take a more confident road position to complete your manoeuvre. Simply put, won’t go out without it now.

[@simonthursz]

As a deaf cyclist, I never go out without this. After too many jump out of the saddle moments (as I only hear the traffic at the last minute) it makes my riding a lot more relaxed. Do agree that there could be better mounts for bike packing luggage etc. will be interesting to see what ideas other people come up with.

[@bazahaza]

Get a mirror. Much cheaper and better.

[@out_spocken]

@@bazahaza you do you bro! Not to mention you can't see jack shlt in a mirror unless you have one of those ones attached to your helmet. I agree that actually seeing what the car is doing is more important than knowing it is there...but knowing it is there is better than nothing at all.

[@nickobec]

As other have said, works with my Wahoo Elemnt Roam 2. I really find it more useful on rural roads. Last week we were out riding a quiet, narrow and pot holed road. You might see a car in either direction once every 3 or 4 rides along it. Varia let me know car coming up fast from behind, and even more important there was another car right behind it. Which you would not pick up looking back, mirror or by sound until too late.

[@madrabbit64]

Absolutely love mine, gives me the heads up I so need when out on those long, lonely Kansas roads. I can’t picture not riding with one ever again. Between the audio and visual notifications I’m always aware of what’s coming up behind me. Life saver.

[@jonty1133]

I don't ride without it now, I ride lots of country Australian roads being passed at between 80 and 100kmph. I also have a small mirror to check as the car passes. Gives me some peace of mind and makes the ride less stressful. Agree 100% still need a shoulder check when turning and it does wake you up on quieter narrower roads and let's you plan an escape route. When mine doesn't work any more I'll get another one.

[@litespud]

Love my varia - combined with a mirror, I believe that the info it provides is definitely actionable. The radar tells me something is approaching, the mirror tells me what it is (ie overtaking bicycle vs motorcycle vs car vs 18-wheeler) and - more importantly - if it’s pulling out to give me room. I have ridden into the verge a couple of times when it didn’t look like the approaching vehicle was giving me room

[@cjfisher47]

I have ~15 rides and 400 miles on Varia. It’s like having a buddy sitting behind you and all he does is watch and warn of approaching vehicles. Will never leave home without it. Love it! ❤

[@chriswilliams2025]

Agree - had one for a year and do not ride with out it. Its also great for detecting faster cyclists approaching from behind. The ability to display multiple incoming vehicles helps avoid swinging out too early after the first car has passed. To avoid the rear rack bag issue I've printed a seat mount that positions it above the bag ok for a clear stable view. I rotate it 180 degrees (inverted) so it sits higher above the bag. Battery life is fine for all day rides. I recharge it each evening when bike packing.

[@sprlowe]

I'd never be without. Excellent video. thank you.

[@stevexjet]

I could agree more with the conclusions presented. The distance at which I hear the traffic on my lightly traveled roads was half the detection made by the radar. I’m truly nervous to ride without the radar.

[@uptowndisco2]

I have only had mine a few days , I don't know why I waited so long ! no more getting a fright when something passes at a faster speed than they should without you hearing their approach , this thing alerts you well over 100 meters back on approaching traffic , love it .

[@RobertDent-dm9nr]

Had mine couple of years now and it just gives me a nice sense of security helps with being aware of your road position especially if a vehicle is coming up behind you and a one is coming towards you at the same time and the rear vehicle recklessly decides to go through the narrowing gap, gives you that split second to nip in, I feel slightly less comfortable on the rare occasions I don’t use it.

[@adamsibbald1163]

I am with you, this is a great device and save me a shock a few times when out on the open road. Especially, when windy and you do not hear a car coming, which can give quite a shock when they pass at speed and you are not expecting it !

[@davidfarquhar3917]

Good review. In the country I will often ride slightly into the lane rather than in the very edge. It's easier, and usually better road condition. I like the idea that this will help me know when to move over to make space for the car behind.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Thanks David. Just one subtle but important clarification (and I mean this very nicely 😁). The Varia tells you when a car is behind, not when to move over - that's your decision based on road and traffic conditions. I only say this because I know there is a concern among some folk that a beep from the Garmin should automatically mean we have to 'get out of the way'.

[@eather34]

Here in the United States, in Motorcycle Safety Foundation class, you’re taught to take the center of the lane, instinctively you’d think it’s not safe, however it’s to make you be seen better and to prevent the vehicle behind taking your lane, you risk of getting sideswipe especially on intersections where the vehicle is turning behind you and you’re just on the side. With a few exceptions of course like narrow lane where the vehicle needs more room to pass. When riding two wheels do not become complacent especially when you think you’re safe, think of it that you’re a target, some drivers just don’t like people on two wheels.

[@yarivyos]

I agree with the occasional car comment. Additionally, it really works, and it will notify you well before you can hear the car, depending on conditions like wind for instance.

[@richardoneill9585]

I won’t ride without it now on roads. It signals to car drivers and I see a better overtaking behaviour from them. I’ve now bought a second one for my son. Battery life is good if set to flashing mode. I’ve got 9 hours of light and radar

[@grahambowes756]

Like some others here, I use mine with my Wahoo Elemnt Roam where the display integration is great. I see there was a Wahoo update recently so you can have the display on the right, which is more natural for us driving/riding on the left. I do like the fact that it picks up other bikes, a handy early warning, before the over the shoulder glance when passing other cyclists. It's good too that the colour of the alert gives an idea of relative speed of approach.

[@DrNick8002]

Just bought garmin varia....its an awesome addition to my garmin bike computer and sensors. At least it gives warning about any vehicles approaching me

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Totally agree!

[@Snaproll47518]

I’ve used a Varia for years and agree with what is said in the video. It’s pretty useless in the city but it’s what I consider an important safety item on country roads, especially if it is windy day. With knowledge of an approaching vehicle I make sure I stay on the road shoulder. Nevertheless, always look before turns or changing track. The audio alert tone is a bit weak so I couple my iPhone for increased volume.

[@Countrystock]

On my ‘too get’ list, especially with more electric cars on the road. Nice one

[@mikethebike5014]

I wouldn't live with out mine they are great and it saves you from keep on looking back to see what's behind you.

[@paulmang5840]

Good review. I've used one for about 4 years now. Won't ride with out it on the road. Agreed it is most useful in the country side. Although, if a car is driving behind you at the same speed you are going, it will disappear from the screen. It will all the sudden reappear when over taking you. Although it was design not to show other cyclists behind you, I occasionally pick up other cyclist coming up from behind.

[@Jubie82]

Great review. Your discussion of indervidual topics is bang on but may I add, & you did touch upon this, it enhances your resting mind enjoying the ride because it relieves you of the concern of something surprising you from behind. I use mine on dedicated bike trails & nolonger get surprised by athelets. 😊

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Great point - thank you

[@charlificity]

Agree fully, after a few dicy experiences I decided to get one and now it’s my main piece of bike kit. I have it connected to my Hammerhead Karoo 2 and it works a dream - you can even easily switch off the beeping when you’re on safe ground.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Good to know, thanks.

[@cmdrrgh]

I live in rural West Virginia and wouldn’t want too ride without my Varia, in high traffic areas not so much 🤠🤠🤠

[@sipapito]

Mine comes today and here in Germany from village to village it’s a must car drivers think still the autoBahn thumbs up 👍🏻

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Do you have to switch off the flashing light in Germany?

[@sipapito]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Not really so far I hear cops don’t bother you but if they wanted they could as it’s illegal do ride with it flashing. Stay safe!

[@MrAnon-2024]

Been using mine for about a year now and wouldn’t be without it. It’s a great bit of kit. You didn’t mention the colour changes when a vehicle is detected, which indicate the approaching speed. A fast approach highlights in red and changes colour if the approaching vehicles speed reduces, letting you know that the vehicle has spotted you and is slowing down. Also, when a vehicle is detected, the light flashes at a higher speed, helping to make you more visible.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Frankly I can't see much difference in the colours - the orange and red seem interchangeable. Or perhaps on our roads I never have a slow car behind me!

[@MrAnon-2024]

@@alwaysanotheradventure lol, possibly. I certainly notice the difference. I’ve watched the red (fast approach), change to orange (slower approach) when vehicles are coming up behind. It’s an extra visual indicator that the vehicle behind is slowing down which, hopefully means the driver has spotted me. 👍

[@vicsophios5892]

I love this light/radar. I ride in Sydney suburbia and use light traffic areas. The radar usually alerts me before I hear any vehicle/s behind me and I have time to take any necessary actions. Great product!

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Would you want it with a built in camera? Testing that one now

[@vicsophios5892]

@@alwaysanotheradventure it’s only been recently released here in Australia with the camera and it’s price is $700 AU. What price do you pay on one’s safety or can make an aggressive driver accountable. Yes I would buy it.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@vicsophios5892 Here it's double the price of the version you have. I like the idea of the rear camera, and having both in one package should seem ideal, but having ridden with it there are a few shortcomings. I'm not sure whether I'd go for it or the Varia like yours plus a separate camera like the Cyclic Fly.

[@vicsophios5892]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I’m sure there will be a headlight with a camera from Garmin soon

[@jefferycampbell2243]

I ride narrow rural roads with perhaps 5 to 10 cars per hour and over the years I've had to "hit the ditch" twice to avoid head on collisions with distracted drivers. I worry about the unseen distracted drivers coming from behind. Generally I can spot vehicles in the mirror and/or hear them in time to get over as much as possible and watch to ensure they are giving me adequate clearance, but I still get surprised on occasion. The Varia has eliminated these surprises and gives me enough warning to verify they are getting over enough for a safe pass and prepare for an emergency exit if they don't. I use it with a Wahoo Element Bolt v2, the only short coming is the Bolt supports the radar only, it doesn't support remote control of the light's function. I'd feel very exposed riding without it.

[@Pedals_and_Pathways]

Great review and you make a good point about its usefulness. I have used one for years and I do think it is worth it but in the city i ignore it. When i hear it go off I then begin keeping an eye on the mirror in case I need to bail or make adjustments.

[@johnthebiker300]

Very good review. I have heard the mounting is a challenge, even with a small tool bag under the saddle.

[@ingolfmuller566]

I find it very helpful. Especially on the road bike, when you are riding fast and a lot of noise was produced by the wind. I had only one "crazy" situation. At the end of a 100km roadtrip, the sun was down. Everytime a car was passing me, the screen illumination of my old Edge1000 was switched a couple of seconds on. I was afraid, it will ruine the last percentages charge of the old Li-Ion batteries inside, before I finish my route recording. ⌛ I prayed that there won't pop up more cars behind me. 🙏 But edge's power lasted until I reached my home safe.😉

[@andywhite1942]

Like a lot of people have already said I wouldn't leave home without it. The big thing for me is on country roads me and my ride buddy can comfortably ride 2 abreast until the radar picks up a car and we can drop back into single file giving everyone involved the safest option of an overtake and more times than not we always get a thumbs up or a wave from the passing motorists. What's not to love about this system.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

The new one with camera is pretty good too!

[@elchram]

Just ordered one for a deal. Looking forward to test it!

[@nolimit7185]

Just got mine today. Can't wait to try it out. Cheers

[@elchram]

I tested it now on 2 rides and on climbs and roads in the country-side it is very handy indeed!

[@nolimit7185]

@@elchram I am glad you are liking it..cheers!! I got mine yesterday and did a maiden ride today! Exceeded all my expectations. In a city, I had to mute the sounds but having the warning was awesome. I tested it on country roads and I regret not having it earlier. Accuracy is mind-blowing. One of my best bike tech purchases of all time.

[@fergy1ful]

Agree with everything you say. I have mine paired to a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt and it works perfectly (paired in seconds as well). I have a hearing problem in one ear that makes it really difficult to work out where sound is coming from and the Varia gives me a lot more confidence when out on quieter roads. The drawback with quieter roads is that traffic moves faster so it can appear very quickly between backward glances. I'm sure like any device, it's not infallible but then, neither is looking behind or listening either. There will always be people who 'don't see the need', etc. - that's fine, just don't buy one then. I'm very happy with mine.

[@fergy1ful]

Addendum. Just completed the John Muir Way and used this on all the road and shared path sections. I'd never want to be without it now. I'm amazed how well it works and seems to pick things up across a huge width. This means it does flag up cars on the road, even when you're on a separate but parallel cycle route which is handy if, like me, you drop onto the carriageway now and then for a change of surface. My only real scare was a sudden red and a dot that moved so fast I'd never have avoided it - that was caused by a train running parallel to the cycleway!

[@JoeCannon1]

This is genius. I had no idea this existed. Thanks for reviewing it 👍🖖

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

There's a newer version now Joe with a safety camera built-in kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXO3eWR6ntCrf6c

[@JoeCannon1]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Thanks so much I will check it out tonight!

[@helloitsdawn]

This perspective makes sense.

[@davewatt8840]

Looks a great bit of kit maybe get one of these. Thanks for the great review 👍👍

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

It is very very good Dave, but not in the way I first thought.

[@stephenbrown5844]

Excellent thanks for the footage my friend

[@neilk22]

You missed how bright it is simply as a smart tail light. Also it indicates amber for "safe" approach speeds and red for "dangerous" approach speeds which enables way more informed avoidance decisions.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

True, but I don't find that particularly useful Neil. I don't look at the unit when I hear the beep - it prompts me to look in my mirror where make an accurate assessment. How I respond to a car is quite different to a log lorry on a single track road.

[@Grandadgreyhair]

Your comment about meeting eyes is one I find critical, if I pass a car at any junction and we have not had eyes on recognition I become super defensive because anything else will be too late. I not sure about the vario yet, but I imagine they could be good abroad where everything is a bit more uncertain both in terms of driver habits and your ability to understand foreign road signs and junctions which I have found challenging in some places.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I used it in France and the Uk, towns and quiet roads, and was impressed all of the time. I’ve gone from skeptical to convinced, although not sure about the camera version I’m currently testing. As for eye contact - it’s important whenever you can do it, bike or car. At worst you see where the other driver is looking and that can be valuable information.

[@dcmkgo]

On many packs and saddle bags you can use their loop and fasten tightly the standard 1/4 turn stem top / bar mount that comes with most Garmin units. Also the red bar indicates the object is approaching rapidly whereas no red means it is a similar speed, a sort of threat guesstimate!

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Hi Peter - I tried and failed to fasten the Garmin mount to my bikepacking pack, but agreed, many pack designs would probably work. I realise the side-bars are meant to be different colours, but frankly I can't tell them apart! The red and orange look almost identical.

[@nukadog1969]

This will become part of my new ride; no matter how vigilant, we all get surprised on long rides. And ounce of prevention and all that...I would definitely NOT use it in the city, especially mine!

[@mikeainsworth4504]

I am looking to get one when I have the money. As for not doing anything with the information - think about dodging the pothole in front of you; warning that there is something behind you would help the decision to avoid it to the right (Further into the road) or left.

[@heksogen4788]

This could be good if it came with dedicated display to show all approaching objects behind you in a 2d grid. Otherwise, it's a nice toy, but could improve drastically its usability.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Each vehicle shows as a separate dot, provided the first one isn't a massive truck it can't see around. The comments on here and the review of the RCT 715 (the radar plus camera) show lots of users who regard it as much more than a toy.

[@heksogen4788]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Ok, does it have collision warning ie. that a car is on a collision course like veering off center or that it will ride into you? Are there more expensive models with such feature?

[@ffjim]

Just bought one so no practical experience but the reasons is my hearing is not as good as it was and electric vechicals can be dangerously quiet. Hopefully it helps

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Hi Jim - you can have the Varia app open on your phone and volume turned up so you get two warnings. For extra volume you can use a headphone too.

[@KaushikNSanji]

I guess it will be more useful in the future when everyone shifts to EVs or the likes of it, since we can barely hear them approaching us!

[@Alastairs55]

Very good for the growing amount of silent electric cars

[@davidalderson7761]

Radar. Just make sure you seal up the power socket on rides as it does too easily get a bit of corrosion. So the rubber bung needs a clean after every single ride. I love my radar my mum ( 76 yrs old ) has one too. If I lost it I would Buy another immediately. It wakes you up and I head check if I get a beep every single time. If a fast car is coming maybe I can jump in a hedge if need be.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Good point about that rubber bung

[@davidalderson7761]

@@alwaysanotheradventure the bung is garbage. It should be way better for the cost of the device. Usb C would be better. Having mine slightly not fully home caused a touch of copper corrosion on the prongs. So it’s going to die. Ensure it’s cleaned and dry after every single ride regardless of the battery life left. “Signed bloody annoyed”

[@kevinsaward2005]

wheather you have a varia or just ears making eye contact at any time should be a big fat yes.we teach year 6 children this all the time on bikeability courses,

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Not easy to do each when they're hurtling up to you at over 60mph in a pack of ten

[@kevinsaward2005]

@@alwaysanotheradventure if they are in packs of ten its probably not a country lane your on a duel carrageway.ha ha !

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@kevinsaward2005 Nearest dual carriageway is a long way from me. They tend to be pulses of ferry traffic which come in bursts.

[@kevinsaward2005]

@@alwaysanotheradventure too bloody busy for my liking,went on a 25 mile ride yesterday and only saw 1 car the whole trip.come to north norfolk.

[@4dogsannacat]

Thank you

[@ibras1428]

It’s additional information I’d rather have

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Me too. How about the camera version? It’s better than initial reviews suggest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXO3eWR6ntCrf6c

[@obikedog]

I'm not completely against the idea of varia. I'd like it when they get a practical, working camera solution so my family can use it to sue whomever decided their seconds were more important than a human life but I digress. I agree turning might help drivers realize you are a human but I'm not convinced that's our responsibility and it does cause distraction if you do that for every single car overtake. Where I ride roads are busier than Scotland I guess. In my case the most dangerous situations aren't me alone on a deserted road being overtaken. It's those all-too-frequent "double-ups" where I'm riding along, alone, for several minutes and suddenly two vehicles approach from both directions and meet - right - on - my - position. I'm not sure the explanation for why this is such a frequent occurrence or if it's all in my head but it happens - a lot. My solution in those cases is non-intuitive and I'm sure many will argue. To be sure, This is NOT a hard-fast rule and there are times I'm hovering the line as much as possible. So this works on some roads, typically where there is no shoulder anyway - and traffic is able to see me for a long distance. I'm not hidden on the other side of a hill crest or turn, etc. but - assuming my speed is hight enough relative to traffic - with my bright blinkies on both ends and high-vis clothing elements I will position myself in the lane so the car cannot overtake without running me down. This to me is safer than allowing them to try and thread needles with me being the disposable obstacle to push aside. No, it's not ideal. That's riding in car-centric America. Maybe I should move to Europe!

[@craigcherylthompson2042]

I have an old Varia 510 paired to the first version of the Edge Explore, the audio alerts are very hard to hear. Thinking of upgrading to the Varia 515 paired to a 1040 (currently on sale) but I’m curious about how loud the alerts might be. Thanks.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Have you tried pairing it with your phone and turning up its volume? If the phone is in a chest pocket it's really loud

[@franciscszakacs3278]

If you have this traffic problem in Scotland, what can I say here in Romania? 😂I buying two! 😊

[@jamble7k]

i think these are more useful on country lanes, you are far less aware of cars on quiet roads (at least I am)

[@colinsmith8908]

I have a 30km 70:30 suburban/city daily commute. The 30 section is mostly along London cycle paths. Will the radar drive me nuts alarming all the time?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I wouldn’t bother in that scenario. Unlikely a big vehicle will sneak up behind you.

[@colinsmith8908]

Unlikely a big vehicle will be on the cycle paths, my question was more about the radar alarming.

[@richbob594]

You either like it or you haven't used it.

[@cappaculla]

Wouldn't leave without it...

[@Peter-xn7wg]

What's the phone app that seems to offer more detail than Garmin's head unit?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Feels like a quiz question! I usually navigate with Komoot but on my phone I also have Google, Ride with GPS, Ordnance Survey and Gaia GPS. One should work!

[@robgrider2390]

Can anyone comment on the quality or the brightness of the flash during daylight riding? Is it as effective as a Bontrager Flare R or a Cygolite Hypershot ? Thanks

[@peterhoelzel2448]

How about battery life? I think it's rather short, too short for a daylong ride, but couldn't find out whether one could extend it with a small powerbank. Otherwise I believe it's a good idea to bring you back into here and now when needed.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I’ve heard that said but it has not been an issue for me, although I do ‘manage’ it Peter. I turn it off on cycleways and when the traffic is really busy. The battery issue is not only the Varia it’s my Garmin 1030, because the sleets drain its battery. On longer rides, of which I’ve done a few recently with the Varia (like those in France) this has worked fine for me. Same with the recent ones on the south coast (videos to come).

[@MrAnon-2024]

Battery life hasn’t been an issue for me, either

[@nathanieldwarner]

Mine lasts for around a 6-7hr on a ride with very light traffic and flashing light mode. Never tried to power it of an external battery. Will have to try it.

[@jefferycampbell2243]

I use the "day flash" setting and I get a low battery warning after 12 hrs, but it continues to operate for at least another hour after the warning.

[@1edofal]

1:10. "When a vehicle approaches the rear the head unit beeps quite loudly". Not really. The beeps are in high-frequency and older people, due to the common high-frequency hearing loss, cannot hear them, especially when there is the noice of cars coming from the other direction.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Fair point. I'm 63 and I hear them fine, but then my hearing isn't bad (wife says it's dreadful but that's another matter). The good work-around that is to connect your phone and have it in a chest pocket - its volume can really be cranked up. And if that isn't loud enough, you can connect the phone to a headphone (only ever use one and no music) and the beep will be right in your ear.

[@david4903]

I sure would like to ride with you sometime

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I’m doing Ride to the Sun this year if you fancy a ride from Carlisle to Edinburgh through the night. Great event!

[@david4903]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Your in Scotland?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@david4903 Yes - west highlands near Fort William

[@roubaix3843]

Not related to the Varia but could you share your thoughts on the rear-view mirror on you handlebar? I have been looking for a suitable one for my road bike for some time, mixed feedback (from very good and useful to wobbly, you only see your knees etc).

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I'm now kicking myself I didn't include that in this video. I was highly sceptical but Liz wanted one for her bike. I borrowed that bike one day and thought, "hey this is good". I now have them on all my bikes (I didn't take one to France though) except the Vielo because off-road I suspect it could get damaged. It's rock steady, doesn't wobble at all, and if you accidentally knock it off it just pops back on. I'm seriously impressed, although I suspect some 'roadies' would sneer 😁 This is the one I have: amzn.to/3871SUV

[@nigelbest191]

@@alwaysanotheradventure Another vote here for the CatEye BM-45, I’ve got one installed on both my bikes and I feel so much safer with it fitted, a thoroughly excellent bit of kit 👍

[@AndyPaul-wr5hm]

A bit pricy but I really like my Selle Italia Eyelink mirror that sits on top of the hood of my drop bar. I use it with my Varia 515. When on a rural road and the Varia pings I can take a quick look in the mirror to see if the "car" behind me is actually a car (or a huge tractor) or another biker coming up faster than I am riding. I also like the Varia because it can provide some assurance that the road behind me is clear if I am going to make a righthand turn (in the US).

[@Jim-ke2ng]

Won't ride without it.

[@gregtitus2467]

Bike radar: extremely convenient. Not at all necessary. The best bike radar would be that which gives you warning of being hit from behind early enough for you to react and take evasive action. I'm not aware that there is any technology like that available. In order to react quickly enough to avoid being hit from behind, you have to turn and look at every single vehicle that the radar shows is overtaking you. That's impractical, isn't it? Bike radar doesn't show you that a vehicle is on a collision course. It only shows that a vehicle is approaching. You need a four second window of seeing, identifying the threat, and reacting. And for each vehicle. If you like these radar devices, go for it! No harm in using it, unless it gives a false sense of security (i.e., you don't actually look behind you to see what's happening). I have friends who can't understand why I don't use bike radar. My response is: what information does it give that allows me to react in time to avoid the rear collision? Without the radar, I can easily turn my head and get a direct, reliable view of what's going on behind me. Much more reliable than an electronic device. Having a flashing red tail light is the single most effective thing you can ride with to avoid being hit from behind. Far more effective than radar.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I thought much the same as you. Until I used one. Add a mirror and light that reacts to vehicle proximity (built into radar) I now feel they’re a useful addition. Not perfect but way better than nothing.

[@seltunkoko]

What 360 camera did you use?

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

It's the Insta360 One X2. I very stupidly lost my original X one after the Caledonia Way. I was unpacking in a car park and drove off with it in a bag on the ground. Needless to say I never got it back.

[@seltunkoko]

@@alwaysanotheradventure one x2 is way better. Sorry for the One X you lost. Love ❤️

[@martyhalper8365]

Don't leave home without it.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Have you thought about the new camera version?

[@martyhalper8365]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I ordered it, but then read the reviews regarding the camera. I'm gonna wait for the next version, which hopefully have image stabilization. I won't ride without the Varia. In regard to the beeping when n. I'm on a busy road, I just ignore it Its a bit annoying, so are some of my friends. I just tune it out or them out.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@martyhalper8365 I'll call-out Garmin when they muck up, but I like the camera version. IF you use it as a safety camera, then it's absolutely fine. What it's not, and never will be, is a rear-facing stabilized GoPro replacement. My thoughts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXO3eWR6ntCrf6c

[@martyhalper8365]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I just may reorder it after seeing your review. I just subscribed to your Channel. Very practical advice.

[@ACTIVEPAIR]

Better mounted on your helmet🤔 not sure I’ll get one, maybe if price comes down.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I get the idea but I suspect a head would move around too much. The moment you looked down to see the alert, the radar would point up and the cone would be looking at the sky. Might be worth trying though...

[@ACTIVEPAIR]

@@alwaysanotheradventure good point well made👍🏽 Does require a bit more R and D by Garmin for suitable attachment for all types of riding🤞🏽

[@michaellane1316]

Forget the hearing of a vehicle unless there is no wind or a tailwind. Remember folks, we are all riding against the wind as Kansas once sang. There are too many variables when out on the open road. Most people do give you the time of day, it only takes that once to become a statistic though. I, probably many others, have a story to tell, or two. Be safe, if one believes it will help, by all means. I tried the mirror thing once, found it to be more of a distraction. We all have our comfort zone. Same with running or walking out along the roads, while facing traffic, same thing. About 80% of folks give you the respect of slightly moving over. Then there are the ones who just simply do not. Here again, it is upon the cyclist, runner, walking pedestrian to always be on guard for themselves. One of the ways I talk to myself about these pitfalls. That individual who may accidentally cause damage will be shaken, may be petrified of what they may have done but, say this to yourself, they will continue in life as if nothing happened within a year. You however may not be there even at all or crippled for life. I share this as the 10/90 rule. 10% of what someone else may do could have an 90% effect on someone else's life or course of future without even knowingly feel they did anything to be subjective to that. Meaning, most, after they've past you, never even consider you again. And here we are thinking we should all preserve and cherish life together, not the way the world works. Be safe out there, you are the guardian to your own future.....

[@Gollammeister]

What does it connect to ? Or is it a stand alone system

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

To answer your question - the Radar is a 'stand alone' but you need a means to hear the alert. It can be audible/visual with whatever head unit you have (Garmin, Wahoo, Bryton whatever) or phone. Or as I tend to do, connect it to my phone, turn up the volume, then tuck the phone in a chest pocket where I'm sure to hear the 'Beep beep beep' alert. Garmin have updated their unit to one which now has a camera: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXO3eWR6ntCrf6c Alternatively, Bryton has produced a very good radar which is quite a lot cheaper kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGasnIefeJZsmbM

[@davidalderson7761]

The idea that “the car hits you or it doesn’t” is very middle headed. The range of outcomes if it hits you is enormous. A bit like the “proper cyclists” no lights because it’s not my responsibility to drive the car properly. I know a lot of old school people in the military who wouldn’t wear ear defence on the ranges because it was for p@&£)ters, they are all now deaf.

[@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker]

Sunglasses should be weared with temples OUTSIDE the helmet straps. Safety first.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Agreed. My bad. How can I do that when the cap comes over my ears?

[@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker]

A 1-cm slit on each side of the cap would solve the issue. Or you can buy winter caps with the slits already in them.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker Great idea, thank you. I got into the habit of putting the glasses under due to the war flaps. I’ll look into it.

[@perbogren6955]

Is there any studies about that or is it just vanity?

[@MrAnon-2024]

Not for me. I wear prescription glasses which stay on whenever I remove the helmet, if I wear them outside the straps, they get pulled off every time I remove the helmet. Inside the straps and they stay on my face 😂 Personally, I think it’s just one of these silly cycling ‘rules’.

[@bazahaza]

A mirror would be much better.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

You didn't watch the video did you? 😁 Look at the thumbnail. See the right bar-end? That's a mirror. And that's the whole point of the Varia I'm making in the video. You don't ride looking at the mirror (well I don't!). The Varia alerts you to look at it when you're on a not-too busy road, possibly in a head-wind, enjoying the scenery.

[@bazahaza]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I mirror is cheaper and better still. Yes I did watch

[@uptowndisco2]

@@bazahaza are you putting down something you have never used ?

[@bazahaza]

@@uptowndisco2 Yes. 👍

[@Ken-jp1gr]

This channel seems to be drifting away from adventure cycling and more into reviewing products.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Sorry you feel that way after three weeks of videos from France

[@Ken-jp1gr]

@@alwaysanotheradventure I've always enjoyed your rides in Scotland. not interested in flying off to France or anywhere else for that matter. Perhaps it was a little harsh to say you seem to be spending a lot of time reviewing products. But I suppose that's what happens when U Tubers get a large following.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

@@Ken-jp1gr Actually Ken it's a good reminder to never forget my USP which, quite clearly, is the Scottish Highlands. I have a road video shot up here coming later today - more of a blog than a true adventure. Since I recently did some bikepacking down south, those videos will follow. (Sorry!!! 😀) I'll have to get off-road again here soon.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

What will a cyclist do when the radar alarms? Move to the left? Worse thing you can do as a cyclist, the more you move over to left, the closer vehicles will pass you. I would like to see some real research on products like this on the behaviour of cyclists. Rather than the personal un-objective accounts. I’m concerned with products like this, could they be changing a cyclists behaviour to being more passive/submissive to drivers 🤔🤔 Until I see some independent research on a products like this I won’t be buying as I’m worried my behaviour could be changed without me realising that I become more unsafe?.. We should be concentrating on changing driver behaviour rather than possibly making cyclists more passive, nervous and fearful of vehicles every time they are behind a cyclist Thoughts

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I knew you felt like this - you mentioned it before. I can't see this creating a Pavlovian response in many riders - ie the 'beep' triggers a move to the left. 'Passive' is not a word I'd associate with many cyclists. It's simply an alert, letting you know something is coming behind you and probably still a long way off. On our single track roads, I actually move more to the right to claim the lane until I reach a passing place. When I was in busy traffic down-south recently I turned it off. I didn't need to know something was behind me because there always was. If you know of anyone conducting such research please let me know and I'll reach out. In the meantime, it's down to each individuals assessment of risk management. I think it's a useful additional tool, but nothing more.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

@@alwaysanotheradventure yes, each to their own. I think it’s a bit like indicator lights for bicycles

[@cappaculla]

I'm not waiting years for driver habits to change, I'll be leaving with mine attached to the back of my bike regardless of what the few malcontents have to say on the matter..

[@richardelsdon2027]

To be honest when ‘making ready to be passed’ was mentioned I thought he meant make sure you were positioned more centrally (rather than wherever on the road is smoothest). That’s what I do when mines beeps, after I’ve done the shoulder check anyway.

[@richardelsdon2027]

I’m that respect it’s no different to hearing car behind. A friend of mine will almost throw himself in a ditch to let a car past. On a recent ride he tried to squeeze himself into a gutter on single lane road to not impede the drive behind, tho he had no idea had I pulled further out into the road to block the car from passing as it was a single lane road with zero space! It’s not devices that will dictate rider behaviour, that’s already a choice they make now.

[@garyhuett2300]

With the push to electric vehicles these are practically silent. This where the Varia comes into it's own. I agree, no use in a city but when your out in the countryside it's great.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

The EVs that have passed me here make quite a lot of road nose, so I do hear them. But in a head wind it's hard to hear any vehicle. In town when the EV is slower than I'm sure you're right.

[@deldewar5893]

Works great with Wahoo head units and has caught me by surprise when I’ve been alerted to multiple cars behind me on some occasions. The asymmetric flash pattern is my favourite and mirrors that of my other go to light, the Exposure Blaze.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Good to know about the Wahoo.

[@djosullivan9654]

Bought mine about 6 weeks ago and cycle quite rural roads mainly. I find it gives me eyes in the back of my head and, paradoxically, is most useful when it's not reporting anything as then I know that behind me is clear. On club rides the alert tones were annoying other riders especially on busier roads. Switching to single tone or silent makes it less useful. Cycling is obviously expensive and it can be tempting to spend the money instead on new wheels, new cycling clothes, shoes or other upgrades. However I do think the varia is relatively inexpensive when you compare it with the cost of an accident leading to time off work, off the bike or worse. The light itself is pretty good too.

[@Trevor.Adams640]

I have a Varia 510 and it’s invaluable when riding around the country lanes. When I ride with my wife, she has the Varia on her bike, but we can both link to it and both get the traffic warnings on our head units. I can confirm it also works with a Wahoo Bolt, my son in law has the Bolt and pairs his Varia to it. In fact, on the Bolt, you get a little car image instead of the little dot.

[@CVarden]

3:53 motorcyclists know to never rely on eye contact, drivers often dont register non-car shapes in their head

[@steveconway11]

Accurate assessment Simon. Cons: picks up other cyclists as cars, battery burn on head unit, not a fan of garmin rubber bands. Pros: wouldn’t ride without it. Audible signal is loud enough to hear through wind noise. Bought a better, fixed mount to eliminate bands.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I bought a replacement Garmin type mount but it also uses bands - fiddly things.

[@SteveBrill]

I love my Varia and wouldn’t ride without it. Just a 10 second warning of an approaching vehicle can be a great help.

[@martinfisker7438]

I often wondered when i catch up to a cyclist with a Varia - what do you see when im drafting you from 20cm distance? :)

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

You register as a beep and a vehicle approaching, but if you match speed (ie group riding) you disappear

[@StephenBoyd21]

Ok, from this video I think you have proven that it’s useless. If YOU have to be the avoiding the cars behind you then there is something way more seriously wrong with drivers.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

Hi Stephen - sorry you feel that way. It’s more about alerting me to something behind me, not avoiding. And when that something is a timber lorry I want to know. No worries of it’s not for you. Thanks for the comment.

[@rsrnsrwds]

I think the Varia is the best but of kit ever for my bikes. Your comments are exactly the same as mine. I use a small helmet mirror and just take a quick glance at it to make sure the car is giving me some room when the Varia tone goes off. Love the less busy country back roads - and you are precisely right about them. A car or truck can sneak up on your very quickly there and those drivers may not expect to see a cyclist there... and may therefore not see you in time. Cyclists get hit and seriously injured or killed all the time. Quite simply, the Varia can help save your life.

[@kge420]

I use a bar end mirror and Varia. I won’t ride without them both.

[@markwringe2826]

Very interesting review and comments. Last week I was speaking to a policeman after an incident where the driver of an ancient campervan decided to overtake me on a bend only to discover three vehicles coming round it the other way. As we moaned together about campervans he voiced a criticism of cyclists who don't pull into passing places on single track roads. I did point out that if there is a headwind we sometimes won't hear a vehicle behind us, as you said. God only knows how you'd hear my car behind you - it's electric!

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

On single track roads, cyclists in a group of 3 or more are a pain. The first one is past the passing place when the last one pulls in. I can only imagine the fun folk must have on the NC500 when folk who don't normally drive single track roads or big vehicles try to steer massive RVs, look at scenery and pass cyclists.

[@nathanieldwarner]

I like how it also varies the light pattern when a car is detected. I feel like this may help to grab the attention of a driver.

[@alwaysanotheradventure]

I missed this at first but when I realised it was happening I came to the same conclusion.

[@beardyface8492]

Looks useful for those on modern bikes with the fashionable 1/4 mile of exposed seat post, there's about 1 1/2" on my 3 speed roadster, no way it'll fit.

[@SuperDarrenwong]

I never leave home without my radar, It's not a replacement for checking blind spots but it's a great safety feature. When it detects a fast-approaching vehicle, one can decide to reposition yourself on the road.

[@WowRixter]

I don't bother with my Varia in the city. Rural rides and mountain hillclimbs are where it excels. On long fast downhill descents (after the much longer climb) it saves me looking behind for cars. Taking your eyes off the road at +60km per hour is never great

[@styven77]

The head turn works great for me, if a car is hovering behind me not knowing if I have seen it I turn my head towards it for a hot second and they pass 90% of the time.

[@mattypnufc]

Had mine for months. Invaluable bit of kit. Highlighted yesterday. Middle of nowhere. No sound. Bit of a headwind. Riding side by side on a single lane. It flashed up saying a vehicle approaching. Motorbike doing 70mph. If I hadn’t had an alert, his speed and closeness I may have came off, but instead I tucked in and issue averted. They do get annoying when commuting or on busy roads though. 😂

[@shanelaird9032]

100% agree with your conclusion. I have both a Varia and a small Cateye bike mirror. Would never ride with out them.