Snap on vs Stahlwille, THE MIGHTY STARRETT TELLS THE TRUTH!

[@ZDriver1996]

My father, a Vietnam war era Airframe & Power plant mechanic used Stahlwille tools purchased by Aramco when we were in Saudi through 1980-1995. They'd often provide the expats with gifts and in my fathers case, a tool box full of Stahlwille tools. They only bought us the expensive good stuff for gifts. My dad would compare the Stahlwille tools to the Snap Ons. He actually preferred the Stahlwille wrenches which is why he gave me his Snap on combination wrenches. So far the Stahlwille tools have been holding up great since he first acquired them in the 80's.

[@brandongregg4287]

grew up in Aramco as well... 1990-2014

[@ZDriver1996]

@@brandongregg4287 Dhahran? or other camp? Lived on Terra ave main camp near the Kings school. Was fun growing up there.

[@brandongregg4287]

@@ZDriver1996 Dhahran. Lived in the Hills... my dad was a pilot for Aramco (Vic Crane)

[@ZDriver1996]

@@brandongregg4287 Small world. Hartsock's here. We were talking about you guys a couple years ago... I don't remember meeting up with you or your dad but Vic still talks to my dad and my brother naval aviator

[@brandongregg4287]

@@ZDriver1996 lol I just spoke to Vic. He says to tell your brother Trevor and your dad Harold, he says hi. Small world indeed Aramcon. Maybe I'll catch you guys at the next reunion.

[@mrb1864]

Stahlwille wrenches are about the best in the world, I have sets over 3 decades old and thanks to the hardness and high quality satin chrome finish they last way better than snapon . Sometimes a chunkier wrench may work better but generally I can't fault my stahlwille standard and long length combo's . served me well, no drama ...

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

It's the glory of the DIN - Deutsche Industrie Norm / German Industry Norm. If you want to get your tools certified with it, you can't have big tolerances. They have to endure a certain amount of force, they have to be made in a certain way and so on.

[@jeffreyvelthuis9245]

Same here, have 2 sets of stahlwille wreches and a 3/8 ratchet. The rest is gedore. But they are the best! Stahlwille is for sure more popular in europe than in the USA. Im from holland btw haha

[@LabiaLicker]

This

[@lordjaashin]

@@jeffreyvelthuis9245 i find hazet is on the same level as stahlwille

[@tanveerkhan9221]

Made in Germany especially old tools which where manufactured in West Germany are the best in the world

[@testaccount2343]

For example Belzer and Dowidat handtools.

[@GermanToolReviews]

Cool Comparison. The tolerances would be specified in DIN 3110. You have to pay to get the current standards, but I believe for 19mm the upper limit is around 19.3mm which is 0.7598 inches, which both are well below of. As you said you would need to sample a lot of each unit to get a real comparison as you could have gotten one on either end of the tolerance spectrum.

[@zippy1981dotnet]

You have to pay for wrench tolerance standards? I mean I get that model worked back in the day. A lot of really boring standardization work, with a few giant institutions paying big money for the standards. I just hope tool standards eventually follow the open academic publications and open IT spec trends. I might just be a little bitter because I found out that DIN and ISO metric hex bolts have different hex sizes.

[@GermanToolReviews]

Pretty much all the DIN/ISO standards you need to pay for, but it's not a lot of money $50-100 for each one.

[@zippy1981dotnet]

Ok that's actually not terrible. I was assuming it was like $10k, and came in a big binder.

[@GarnettTools]

German Tool Reviews I broke it down to myself like this: If Snap-on made 1 million 19mm wrenches this year, and they broach them 5 at a time, that's 200,000 broaching operations. One would need to test atleast 20,000 wrenches to account for 10% of the broaching operations and 100,000 wrenches to account for 10% of the 19mm wrenches produced in one year. The million dollar figure might be a little high but I think you catch my drift.

[@laaribi_abdo]

what do you think about Toptul tools

[@mpfour4203]

Stahlwille motor 10 & open box 13 (standard)are thinner but have a wide grip. The stahlwille open box 14 (long) are thick with a narrow grip , similar to Snap-On. They are both great spanners, but I prefer using the stahlwille, open box 13 & 14 than my Snap-On SOEXM . Much lighter .Snap -on are also nearly 3 times the cost.

[@GarnettTools]

Mpfour Whoa... Nobody beats Snap-on... unless it's price😂 but thanks for the info, I wasn't aware.

[@dariozupanovic2112]

And 43 years i use this brands as mechanic for heavy duty machinery,i also use a lot of torque wrenches and germans have torque wrenches are made without springs just to extend their lifetime, do you know what is most important thing,german tools are much cheaper than snap on,so from my point of view save your money and live better.

[@pupsik62]

I just in the end bought Stahlwille here in the Netherlands. I started for snap-on. To find a seller or prices is like trying to find the price for a RollsRoyce, what kinda ridiculous is that. The site of snap-on show that its very very very special . Some space, militairy flashy pictures. Then went to Stahlwille and find out about their tolerances and its very very good. the price 10mm spanner, are you ready! Euro 7,00 for the Stahlwille and Euro 30,00 for the Snap-on.( finding it took 25 minutes) I am sorry but its a ridiculous brand. Its probably rocket science for Snap-on to produce a spanner.🤣🤣

[@andrewmorton9683]

Respect for saying you don't know if the difference is actually significant. But I think you should have used an independent arbiter, such as Mitutoyo :)

[@brettwalkom948]

Starret is just as good mate

[@MeBallerman]

Stahlwille is the International Premium brand - SnapOn is only known within the USA.

[@12345anton6789]

Me Ballerman SnapOn is a Global brand, they are very well known in Europe, Australia, Japan. SnapOn has factories many places around the world and over 10 000 employees, Stahlwille has on production in Germany and under 1000 employees.

[@MeBallerman]

@@12345anton6789 No one in Europe buys SnapOn... We have our own brands, Stahlwille + many, many others. No mentioned, no forgotten.

[@12345anton6789]

Me Ballerman just check out where they have sales office’s in Europe, www.snapon.com/international/europe.asp#fourteen

[@heikopanzlaff3789]

@@12345anton6789 I am Service Engineer , travel all over the world. Hardly seen any snap on tools somewhere else. Have only German, French and Japanese stuff in my tool box.

[@ws.safluk2325]

​@@12345anton6789 Stahlwille it's GmbH

[@dariozupanovic2112]

Man,hazet,heyco,stahlwille,gedore,elora,matador,wera,witte,knipex,usag-italy are top notch tools and you can't compare it with snap on specially snap on nowdays made in china and taiwan,anyway i have service for heavy duty machinery and i had snap on,german tools are better in every single way,specially i used usag and heyco and this tools are used and abused but never broke or worn out,once trader told me you can't brake or worn out german tools or usag, specially impact sockets 6 point drive 1/2,3/4 or 1,if you do i will give new one once,and these tools i use almost every single day and never worn out,hence since then i use german tools and usag.

[@BrenticusMaximus1]

Knipex pliers wrench .00001 bigger than the fastener FTW!!! 😆👍

[@GarnettTools]

BrenticusMaximus1 Pliers wrench all dayyyy any dayyyy. I only have the 5" pair tho😢

[@eianwahgener7623]

oh man you need them all.. they are great.. i need to get the 5" pair myself.

[@phi376]

Oh hell yeah! I am sporting the 250mm and the 150mm pair. Much love for the Knipex Pliers Wrench! It's cousin, the Cobra pliers are indispensable as well (I got those in 150mm, 180mm, & 250mm... it's a sickness).

[@tacsystems5621]

Yep I love the so much I bought all of them. I’m sick in the head though.

[@gentrycrother1504]

I have gained so much knowledge from you dude. Many thanks and much respect

[@philipp594]

You are into the 3 subdigits ... they are both great. Variance over a series or measurement error will be bigger than the difference you measured.

[@itamarkas]

Thanks for sharing. Nice review, like you said, it doesn't tell a lot but always fun to see tools and measurements in HD. Make some Stahlwille / VBW pliers review, can't really find something on YT.

[@Marcel_Germann]

According to DIN 3110 the permitted tolerance for a 19 mm wrench is 0.3 mm or 300 µm (micrometer). That are 0.012". The manufacturer Gedore claims they have only a tolerance of 0.1 mm on their 19mm wrench. The thing is, the measurement of such small lengths must be performed in a room which is climatized, because the temperature affects such small lengths. A 1000m long piece of steel will change its length between 11 to 23 mm (depending which alloy) per °C (or Kelvin) temperature change. Such small numbers are normally measured in a climatised room, temperatured at 20°C (68°F).

[@brandonshreve7450]

Believe it or not a slightly looser tolerance is actually better than a slightly tighter tolerance there is a reason wrenches aren't the EXACT size stamped on them and that's to account for paint rust grease and grime as well as damaged and marred fasters

[@GarnettTools]

I figured as much, BUT since I don't have access to ANSI or ASME I can't say, as a matter of fact, which is better. That combined with my extremely low sample size is why I can't say X product= .755 and Y product = .756, nor can I say which is better because Stahlwille or Snap on may have accounted for situations the other hasn't. Or maybe the Stahlwille has to be "tighter" due to it's thickness. I couldn't tell you which is better and further more, nether can anyone else unless they have access to the proper information

[@brandonshreve7450]

@@GarnettTools i completely agree at school we have a set of Taiwanese westward branded wrenches and they are incredibly nice surprisingly nice they have the tightest tolerance of any wrenches I have ever seen and I absolutely love them but you're right is that actually a good thing or a bad thing? Who knows without really knowing I think we just need to use the wrench that gets the job done without causing damage directly related to the quality of your tool thank you for all of your great videos and information I really appreciate what you do for all of us

[@jazzfreek54]

I believe you would also have to take into account the ambient temperature when testing accuracy of machining process.

[@csboi]

Ambient temperature is the same for both wrenches, and both wrenches are constructed of the same material; only different finishing process. Does burnt temperature really matter during this test?

[@jazzfreek54]

@@csboi I meant temp for alll wrenches when measuring size.

[@BrewPub]

And to make things even more complicated, if one was really obsessive compulsive in finding our proper tolerances, you would need to use a electronic height gage for measurements. The Tesa (Swiss) height gage I used at Tech school has an accuracy of 0.0001". I use it even when a dial caliper would suffice, cause an electronic height gage with a probe that senses when it has contacted the part is far more consistent than me.

[@azmrblack]

If they are well within DIN/ASME tolerances it's fine. Most of your DIY wrenches are at max or exceed it easily.

[@asmautollc]

Uh oh, he’s busting out the Starrett!

[@GarnettTools]

+asm154 1 Yep 😁 the Starrett tells no tales😂

[@corelur]

😂😂😂

[@chiimchim7987]

I use them both, they both have their place. Stahlwille is a little less in price but is the German equivalent of Snap on

[@zippy1981dotnet]

Well what do you mean they both have their place? Does one feel better in the hand or is less likely to round the bolt?

[@grantquist8079]

+Justin Dearing, (chiim chiim here) they both have their place means, I've never had either strip a bolt, the Stahlwille is slightly thinner and does feel very comfy to hold.

[@GarnettTools]

I have other double open ends but find myself never reaching for them. I think I'm gonna try to incorporate the Stahlwille set into my backup kit.

[@_P0tat07_]

😜 if there’s one thing I’ve learned from studying machining, it’s that dial calipers are terrible for measuring. (Relative to the more extremely precise techniques in the world of metrology) I don’t want to sound like I’m downplaying the results. Just having some fun!

[@GarnettTools]

That was the main point I had and is why my conclusion was "I don't know what's better and neither does anyone else"

[@momo_su57]

Stawele is better i think it is thin light and got nice grip to hand

[@matthijsjansen5838]

I wonder how they hold up over time .

[@scottcarlon6318]

I allways thought you couldn’t spend more than with snap off .,,,,,but I was wrong........wonder if they make a flank drive equitable?

[@stever5887]

Don't forget that other factor, human error. If you don't hit that dead-on each time, you could easily be over/under by a thousandth or two. These seem to be close enough, but as you pointed out, we don't know what they're SUPPOSED to measure out at, so it's moot until we do. For starters, you could contact Snap-on and Stahlwille to see what they're aiming for in production. I would also check in with ASTM (American Society for Testing and Manufacturing) to see what they say the correct numbers should be. ASTM sets that kind of thing for all manner of industries, and everyone follows those rules as if handed down by the Almighty himself. When I worked for the Feds, we used ASTM for all manner of procedures for concrete, from the materials to be used, the mixing and molding of specimens, curing in a humidity room and testing the concrete to failure in our laboratory test machines. Like the DIN tolerances German Tool Reviews references, they're published annually, and you pay to get the info. A well-stocked library (possibly at a local college) might have them, or you could contact ASTM online and purchase the relevant test procedure(s).

[@EditioCastigata]

What's your payment plan on that Snap-on?

[@GarnettTools]

I pay In cash, it assures I only buy what I need from them.

[@danohstoolbox]

Great video as always brother

[@tootoosick18]

Anyone know a wrench set that is same length as snap on?? I'm tired of short wrenches

[@robswrenches9501]

Clearly, the differences are negligible at best. Either one is a win!

[@alanjensen133]

Bolt are great. Try to warranty a German wrench in America, I don’t know any local distributor.

[@GarnettTools]

Kctoolco.com could likely handle it as they are presumably the largest German tool distributor here in the states.

[@alanjensen133]

Not local like snap on, Mac, craftsman and etc.

[@GarnettTools]

No, but if you had a tool from one of those brands and didn't have a dealer/store near you, you're still looking at the same process. Ever Have Matco tools and change jobs to where a dealer doesn't come? You'd still have to contact Matco.

[@addictedtopussy69]

Kctoolco.com denied my german screwdriver warranty and wanted me to pay return shipping if i wanted my old screwdriver back. so i wouldn't count on their warranty.

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

Lmao! ive never heard of someone doing a warranty claim on a wrench......not even from china freight................

[@PlasticComplex]

Difficult to say what the correct size of a wrench should be, obviously it has to be a bit bigger than the actual nut size so you get get it on there, and nut diameter will also differ from nut to nut. I'm sure both wrenches are great. I stuck my calipers in a couple of my Stahlwilles just to have a look and they are basically the same as yours, about 0.005" bigger.

[@MrDakkyz]

Have you ever done a elora tool review?

[@ccmogs5757]

The stahlwille 10/8 set in pouch is excellent for the money :)

[@Resistculturaldecline]

I have the same weird curiosities and interests. You're my kind of dude

[@F0XD1E]

Tolerances of the fasteners will vary so much more than 1 thou, I don't see how this should have any bearing on real world use. Still more information is never a bad thing.

[@chaddles623]

I really like Stahlwille, I also picked up there Advent Calendar, and wow it's all really nice.

[@GarnettTools]

Roof Repair Techs I'll have to check out German tool reviews because I haven't seen one from them yet.

[@allthegearbutnoideamanwest3174]

I have a set of snapon frank drive spanners, and stahlwille series 14, both very good sets and both sets are very expensive.. the have pro's and con's like every thing

[@zippy1981dotnet]

What I find REALLY interesting about the German wrenches is they skip 16mm but sell a 5/8" in the SAE set. It's a German company geared for professionals. Wouldn't it make more sense to skip 5/8" and include 16mm?

[@lukasz-or8dq]

Justin Dearing . What are you talking about. I have full set with 16 mm in it

[@errolflynn7723]

16mm is a very uncommon size for nuts & bolts but like Lukas said, there are many German made sets, including Stahlwille, that include the 16mm size. I can imagine they leave it out on the smaller wrench sets just because of how uncommon the size is.

[@gc7782]

That pricing for the Stahlwille seems very low for msrp. Maybe it was a used set, or maybe I'm wrong... Thank you for showing the difference in thickness. I think that was a very important highlight

[@GarnettTools]

+Vega Tech I think German tool Reviews bought several sets when the Euro was weak (the whole brexit thing just hit news) but currently the price for the set is about $35 plus shipping.

[@jcsuperstars1100]

it's because it's a double open end wrench. The open/box combos are a lot more. But still worth it.

[@GermanToolReviews]

Ordered it directly from Germany, where you can get a good deal when the exchange rate is favorable and you don't have to pay the 16% value-added tax for exported items. Shipping can be expensive so it's only worth it when you order a lot of stuff. I got a bunch of these on a sale at around 18 Euro, but they are still only around 22 Euro at this time. The model number for the set is 10/5.

[@gc7782]

German Tool Reviews thank you!

[@williamfabiano9407]

I’ve had both Stahlwille is better. Fit and also the texture , snap looks pretty but get your hands greasy and see what happens and also shahwille is thinner.

[@AtomicReverend]

I just want to say I hate open end wrenches but when I have to use one I will always grab my 1960s era snap on wrenches thatI bought well used off of eBay 15+ yesrs ago. After splitting my head open using a USA Craftsman wrench. I can't say I hsve any experience with this German wrench but just how thin it is makes me hsve my doubts considering that Snap on wrenches are very thin compared to almost all other brands. There is nothing worse then a wrench opening up when under severe load/torque. Snap on wrenches seem to fit fasteners very well, have a really nice wipe clean polished finish and the steel they are made from is killer for strength. Good video as usual mang, i enjoyed the watch and I am puzzled as to how I missed this one.

[@smokeybowls187]

I know this is a very old comment by now, but Stahlwille are deceptively thin; the cross section of the handle is like an I beam in shape and they hot forge their wrenches. So the strength of a much thicker tool while also being light as a feather. Got a Stahlwille set for the spots that my Knipex Plierswrench can't get to and they're an absolute treat. The weight difference is immediately noticeable, but you notice over time of spending hours turning nuts & bolts that even this seemingly minor difference in weight makes a difference in fatigue. Especially when you're handling larger size wrenches.

[@motorbreath22]

don't you have to assume that you are getting an average tool from wherever you get it and as such you are measuring what the average tolerance of the tool might be. I think you would really only need about three tools of each and then average each, perhaps from different lots it would give you a good cross section of what to expect for tolerances. The likely hood of you getting three bad tools from different batches would be huge, inversely the likely hood that you would get three average tools from from three different lots would be very high.

[@GarnettTools]

No, in terms of science, you don't make assumptions like that. Out of say 250,000 wrenches, testing just three of them would tell you nothing about the others. I do know that Snap-on specifically broaches five per operation. So out of 250k wrenches that's 50,000 opportunities for Human error, programming error, mechanical error, incorrect ambient temperature, incorrect cooling solution temperature, tooling fatigue, etc to all have an effect on the final outcome. How could one objectively state the likelihood of a product being a specific size without having actual data from an appropriate sample size. Furthermore, how can one even distinguish "bad" from "average" while also lacking the proper data set. Even then, to this day I have no clue as to whether .755" is good or bad. Would .753 be better or would .756 be more Ideal? That statement was really meant to convey that no one on KZbin has the means, or resources to objectively test "brandX's" wrenches and claim it is representative of all BrandX wrenches like so many KZbinrs do.

[@motorbreath22]

@@GarnettTools While you are correct that there is a lot of opportunity for human error that is not what you are measuring when you get a tool, what you are measuring is their quality control error, and if you get several of their wrenches at different times then there is a good chance that they are from different batches and made at different times which tells you how they control for their process, what I'm getting at is that unless something is grossly in error. i.e. the tool breaks on the very first case it is safe to assume you are getting a typical average tool, the reason I say three tools made at different times is that you get a sample in time you can get an average with three tools that would probably be pretty good to what they would make overall a bad tool would be one that doesn't fit the bolt that is indicated it would fit. As per how do you know a tool is good from bad per the measured sizes, I would say that depends on what you are working on, you certainly don't want a tool that will round of your bolts if you are building a showpiece motor, I'm sure you know how sometimes fit and finish is something that you have to feel in order to feel if it's worth it to you, I wouldn't want a wrench that is too tight because it would take forever to use properly and I don't want one that is overly loose and bust my knuckles.

[@piemasta93]

Snap on is for those who don’t know tools. Stahwhilla is for those that do. I honestly don’t know how they are still so popular

[@nijuy3]

Nice review Garnett! And thanks GTR!

[@GarnettTools]

nijuy3 Thanks man 👍🏾

[@peterjackson3424]

Stahlwille are vastly better quality tools than Snap on. Just compare the weight. By the way, this video proved absolutely nothing - a waste of time.

[@GarnettTools]

Peter Jackson Ok Negative Nancy!!!

[@tootoosick18]

Peter Jackson your old as f*** shut it or all break your hip.

[@stever5887]

While I do not agree with anything you have said, I'll defend to the death your right to say it. However, you could have voiced your views in a more constructive manner....

[@peterjackson3424]

Sorry, I seem to have upset a few people. My comments were probably a bit harsh. On a constructive note, you might like to consider that the Australian military, especially the RAAF, consider Stahlwille to be the benchmark by which all others are to be judged when ordering tools.

[@bird718]

its endorsed by the Australian airforce, if they say it's good, then its good enough for me. after all those guys are on top, or bottom? depending on how you see things

[@upsidedowndog1256]

You would need to check the hundreds of thousands of fasteners also. I wish you had a cheapo wrench in the comparison. Wrenches that are too tight can slow down a professional, too loose is even worse.

[@ulehuleh]

Snap on make some excellent tools but Stahlwille have far superior spanners/wrenches, in my opinion they are the best by a long way

[@tedmcdonald3377]

Awesome as always😎😍😎😍😎😍😎

[@jeffstone7912]

Who cares as long as you’re not rounding off the fastener that it’s easy enough to get the tool on and off? A tighter tool can be a pain the ass to work with.

[@cliveevrall1071]

It be interesting for you to test British tools as well.

[@pauljeffs7]

There aren’t really any left, king dick is the only one left isn’t it? Or do you mean out of production such as britool?

[@nugenki]

Point seven five five!

[@GarnettTools]

Nugenrules Can you believe it!!

[@noahberger6579]

Point seven FAHF FAHF

[@sumanmondalsuman7635]

Sir thanks Indian shopping price stahiwille tools

[@gplusgplus2286]

Difference in measurements in these quality brands is meaningless, but thinness that's what you need and ze germans excel there.

[@MrWoowootila]

Curious how other brands measure up.

[@angelortiz8533]

19 mm isn't 0.750, its 0.748

[@GarnettTools]

And I said it was?

[@chrischiampo8106]

😮😳😀 Such a Fine instrument The Starrett for the Win 👍🏼

[@GarnettTools]

Chris Chiampo Lmao I love it! It's the large model too😁

[@mauricelevy9027]

The old Stahlwille Stabil flat rings were superb to use but a lot of fakes about now.

[@ninatherat2000]

Now get 10 nuts and bolts and compare the difference in size

[@spannerssockets6308]

Snap On are over rated and over priced. I got a set of Snap On imperial standard combination spanners 30 years ago and the handles were just to thin for comfort. The plus for Snap On spanners is they are the only ring end spanner to use the Flank Drive although most other socket brands now use it on their 6pt sockets. I've got a set of 1/4 impact deep and shallow impact sockets, US Pro brand, 6pt, 4mm to 15mm and I doubt if Snap On could beat that. I only buy 6pt impact sockets. You get the extra strength and grip. With 12pt sockets, rusty fasteners easily round off.

[@dandyer8351]

Wrong what do you think stahlwille AS drive is, same cut outs as snap on on the 12pt ring ends. Pretty much every new spanner has this now.

[@hamburg040hh]

Es gib sehr viele verschiedene hersteller die sehr gutes Werkzeug herstellen. Stahlwille gehört definitiv zu den besten, vielleicht sogar der beste hersteller. Was ringschlüssel angeht habe ich ein Satz aus der soviet unioren . Ich habe bis jetzt alle Schlüsse kaputt bekomme, wie stahlwille, Garant, hazet, heyco, elora, aber die USSR ringschlüssel sind unverwüstlich.

[@alpher8962]

Wiegen aber bestimmt auch mehr

[@Marcel_Germann]

Stahlwille ist eigentlich der beste Hersteller, aber auch teuer. Nicht umsonst setzt die Luftfahrtindustrie auf Werkzeug von Stahlwille. Und die UdSSR Schlüssel waren garantiert fürs Militär und nicht für den normalen Handwerker gedacht.

[@jerrykruger]

der rusishe ringshlussel commt aus kolyma atom bobmbe werke.

[@smartchip]

some information you should know, if your serious about tools, A manufacturer does not make the best Pliers, spanners, cable cutters, etc, a manufacturer may make the best pliers or cable cutters or spanners, NO company makes the best everything ,the more pricey does not correlate to better, yeah its counter intuitive, but it is true nether the less,, in regards to spanners, I have found to be true, what I was told by a few people, the thicker the spanner, the less robust the metal, it make perfect sense in a Engineering context, but somewhere in our Ape brain, more is better, I have found knippex cable cutters to be the best, consistently, multi meters, Metrowatt for industrial, fluke in general and some Japanese make I struggle to remember for electronic or discrete systems, spanners? I could use some advice, to be honest, also if you disagree, stick to the point and not ad homonym attacks, we are tool connoisseur not enemies,

[@davidyoung6608]

Neat video Garnett.

[@GarnettTools]

+David Young thanks👍

[@jimc793]

Dude if you’re going to do a video measuring metric wrenches, use a metric measuring device.

[@GarnettTools]

Nope, results are pointless any ways. And even if they were, it's not like the size of the opening changes depending on which standard of measurement you're using. Relax, it's just a KZbin video.

[@HardKnocksForge]

I like the Stahlwille because it looks pretty thin compared to the snap on. I have plenty of thick head and beam wrenches and would think the thinner would come in handy. Happy Cyber Monday. Today is the last day that you can get 30% off tool lady. com. She has nothing but PB Swiss so have fun...

[@GarnettTools]

+Hard Knocks Forge oh, you better know I already ordered form Tool Lady👍

[@GarnettTools]

+Hard Knocks Forge I mean they don't have the only available in Japan ones but you'll see those later😉

[@HardKnocksForge]

Nice, you gonna walk us id10ts through the ordering process like you did on the Japan only hex sets a few months back?

[@GarnettTools]

+Hard Knocks Forge I'll try but this one's gonna be a doosie!

[@HardKnocksForge]

Sweetness

[@aussieguy6827]

Theres a lot more to a spanner than what you just measured. I'm not a fap on fan they are both great tools.

[@tomallen100]

A wrench needs,to be under load to get anything meaningful from it. What's the measurement at 75 ft/lbs. The quality of the steel and the design of the head as far as strength is concerned. Also under high torque the box end is normally used anyhow. Pretty ignorant to draw conclusions from a simple static measurement.

[@gentrycrother1504]

Man give Garnett a break I love his reviews dude

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Bruce Allen sent me.......Subbed.

[@magnusklahr8190]

Snap on i bigger dimensions are like made from hell! Reeeealy nasty!! Stahlwille are extremely comfortably

[@altonriggs2352]

.755....say it ain't so!!! Great vid.

[@jamesf9610]

Hummm splitting hairs you say and there will still be people yelling the SO is way better at 5x the price lmao

[@bricofast]

Germany tools the best quality and strong 💪💪💪

[@thatonerepairguy4784]

If u look in my videos I’ve done a video like this

[@GarnettTools]

Bob kinsey I'll check it out Bob, Thanks👍

[@rustybrowneye]

:43 - :45 i bet that tip touching got some of your gay viewers excited

[@robswrenches9501]

LOL

[@GarnettTools]

fuzzy wuzzy LMAO Fuzzy

[@bird718]

hahahahahah holy puck!

[@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743]

It's only gay if you make it gay. Otherwise it's just two bros hanging out.

[@leithmurray736]

You said in this video that you can’t draw a conclusion from these results. So tell me what was the purpose of this video ?

[@Airman..]

Your test is irrelevant.. its the Alloy, the heat treatment, the forging process.. measurements could be close AF but if the jaws were expanded.. a catastrophic tool failure is imminent

[@GarnettTools]

+Airman umm, I pretty much said my test is irrelevant along with every other wrench measuring video on KZbin.

[@aussiehardwood6196]

I bet if the Snap On has tighter tolerances...a ''conclusion would be made''. But seeing the Stahlwille are tighter, '' no conclusions can be found". Lol, well what the hell was the point of getting the veneers and camera out in the first place. This video is dumb.

[@GarnettTools]

No, I am not Biased in that way so the point of the video was to show (mainly Americans) that it's pointless to measure a wrench in the first place and no one's "wrench test" on KZbin is scientifically valid. If ya don't get it, Peace the fuck out, no skin off my back, start your own KZbin channel where you crank out videos at NO COST to the end viewer.

[@jose8665]

Pointless and waste of 10 minutes

[@GarnettTools]

Eh, this video offers about the same information as every other "wrench test video" does I just didn't provide a conclusion because scientifically you can't do that after only testing two wrenches.

[@Tap-a-roo]

It’s about the steel used to make the wrench and the alloy involved more than one thousandth. That being said you can’t measure one thousandth with a Chinese made Starrett. I have no respect for anyone measuring American or German made tools with a Chinese tool.

[@GarnettTools]

Um... Did you even reach the conclusion? Yeah, I gave no determination of which is better. Even going so far as to specifically state that ALL KZbin wrench tests are invalid simply due to sample size. But tell me smart guy, what does COO matter when A. the tool produces the correct result and B. a caliper is not even the correct tool to measure such a gap. Speaking of respect, I don't respect anyone who thinks the coo of the tool matters when the author literally says "hey BTW this test is invalid and so is everyone else's" Do you have access to ASME and ANSI? Are you employed by a tool mfg? It's "about" way more than just the alloy. LMAO Gotta love when someone acts like they know what they're talking about but actually doesn't. Given I don't know you, I actually don't give a damn what you respect. Don't like my channel? Don't watch it.

[@Tap-a-roo]

Garnett-Tools If you actually used tools and didn’t play pretend on KZbin then you would understand what makes a quality tool. Your useless video is as useless as your opinions.

[@mikewhite255]

Lol dude that starret is fine , i work on pressure relief valves and we are strictly governed by the national board of boiler and pressure vessel inspectors which states we habe to have our calipers re calibrated every 3 months and ive seen the same starret give very very accurate and repeatable results for many years as well as mitutoyo . So maybe just maybe you have no idea what you are talking about... i use mitutoyo but there is absolutely nothing wrong with starret china or not.

[@mikewhite255]

@@GarnettTools i agree its not technically the correct tool to measure that gap but i enjoyed the video alot even though its obviously just for kicks and nothing more. Some people are so ridiculous lol , talking about no respect to another stranger like that over a caliper? Hahahah i bet his parents hate him.

[@mikewhite255]

@@Tap-a-roo , yet another lost soul angrily defending his overpriced tools and unable to man up and realize the truth about his snap on tool debt lmao. Its ok we all do stupid things ... but not all of us throw 500 dollars at a 7 piece combo wrench set then attack someone posting videos for entertainment purposes over his choice of calipers..... grow up man.

[@smartchip]

that's crazy measure in mm to measure mm, measure imperial to measure imperial, no comparison or equivalence, that's just madness, waste of time,

[@GarnettTools]

Did you get the message at all? Doing such is pointless anyways. Since no one has a means to test a significant sample size, EVERY WRENCH MEASURING VIDEO ON KZbin is pointless.

[@GarnettTools]

Plus I'm measuring something that is essentially fixed in size, it's not like the physical size changes depending on the standard of measurement I'm using. If that's the info you're looking for, just convert my results, but it's not like it matters anyways. In order to have a vaild scientific result, you need to use a valid scientific method.