GARRUS, DON'T DO IT... | Mass Effect 2 - Blind Playthrough - Part 13

[@wilerman]

Doing Tali’s mission before the IFF makes more sense from a narrative point of view. There may be slightly more dialogue but the mission order ends up feeling unnatural. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for Shepard to wait until the last moment to do a mission for a friend like Tali.

[@lucas.n.carvalho.artist]

Best episode so far! Tali's loyalty is arguably the best of ME 2, and both her and Garrus hold the position of best romances for a damn good reason. You did an excellent job this time! Here's some trivia since you were wondering: The only other way to suceed in Tali's Loyalty Mission is to let Veetor go back with her in the begging of the game, make sure Kalreager survives Haestrom, and, like you said, rally the crowd. If not, then either she's exiled or you lose her loyalty. Also, I think you'll understand the unique dailogue for her mission after Reaper IFF when you meet the next squadmate. It's not optimal at all for a fulfilling playthrough of the trilogy back-to-back, because of massive negative consequences, but the fact the developers accounted for that choice and added that extra content is super interesting.

[@christianwalters2047]

Good choice! Tali is my favorite romance for a BroShep. She's adorable

[@christopherhenson50]

1:13:00 So your instincts were right. “Rally the crowd” does work on preventing Tali from getting exiled and it’s a choice you can only make if you didn’t hand Veetor to Cerberus and Kal Reegar survives on Haestrom.

[@xplay751]

Love this game,I sit here with you're streams on in the background while playing on the steam deck lol

[@brianwhite9339]

The Quarians are suprisingly merciful to traitors!

[@dayooperedtroll2208]

I am loving the series. Can't wait for Mass Effect 3

[@harri978]

When you were talking about the game and why you love it so much is the same reasons I LOVE IT!! The time the developers put into character relationships (not the romance) and the planets the races of the different worlds. I haven’t found a game that does this well. I am so enjoying see you experience this for the first time. I hope people don’t spoil too much as you finish this out

[@Anonymos185]

In case you are curious about Tali's mission outcome: Paragon/Renegade options both result in Tali being pardoned, and gaining her loyalty. Rally the crowd requires you to let Veetor go with Tali, and keep Reegar alive. The crowd will join Shepard's side, and you will also get the best outcome. Giving the evidence, results in Tali being pardoned, but *not* gaining her loyalty. And if you say you have no evidence, Tali is exiled, but loyal.

[@Lekuster93]

2:11:04 I know that smile. It happened to me also when I first played the trilogy and started relationship with Tali 😁❤

[@chiraakitteh4091]

FemShep has some unique dialog at the end of the conversation with Harkin… considering how Harkin talks to FemShep in ME1, it’s very deserved. 😂

[@kurtslavain]

"I had reach but she had flexibility" - I see what you did there, Garrus. 😂

[@Techmaven1908]

Garrus is so smooth, especially when he is angry!

[@jakephocas1396]

If you play the Garrus mission again, DON'T shoot the volus's bodyguards and see what happens!

[@YoungMrBlue]

Need to do that again forget what happens

[@Manuelz]

2:10:06 honestly this moment with Tali is the moment I knew I wanted to romance her😂😅

[@NRGEngineer]

“That was quick. And easy.” You could almost say that it was… NOT DIFFICULT!

[@existenceisrelative]

That may be one of the most... viking things i've ever heard. You basically said "looting is a celebration of life."

[@Charharr]

If you were Fem Shep, after Garrus' speech about reach and flexibility, you can ask "you wanna work off steam together? 😏" "I... didn't know you were interested in sparing, Commander" "...not what I meant". Occasionally it's hilarious, because Fem Shep will do that same masculine lean forward with their legs open... and her casual outfit/Kasumi's mission outfit can be a dress, so you can be basically accidentally but confidently flashing him before the flirting even starts lol.

[@alex13batman]

Something I made note of from Tali's mission: Tali finds her father's body, breaks down, starts looking for a message he might have left for her. She's right, he did. His message doesn't start with "if anyone sees this it means I'm dead" it says, "Tali, if you find this it means I'm dead." I know he only had seconds in the recording, but he knew that Tali would B-line it to him. Yet his final message to her only told her the objective, no I love you. (Raan later assumes that she got to hear those words). And although he technically did show it in the other recording, it was only through explaining why he did such an atrocity. Further adding to the complicated feelings Tali must be feeling by the end of the mission. Even if she accepts his reasons or not, even if she's upset with him, he's dead. Nothing can be done about it anymore

[@mateuszprzybya4352]

After you do all remaing loyality missions you schould do Shadow Booker dlc -ofc you can do that after main game but you can do before and have some prizes for this dlc. Arrival dlc you schould do just before ME3 after main game (this dlc is prelude ME3 and this is very very hard because you do all alone -no team so you need best level and gear what is possible to have )

[@arconreef]

The decision to wait to introduce the last squadmate until right before the end of the game was the biggest mistake the developers made in ME2. They're one of the coolest team members, but you barely get any time with them.

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

Blame XBOX for that, the game had to be split into two Discs.

[@solaris0000]

You can arc your powers around obstacles and cover. when in the power selection mode just activate the power like normal but while still in that menu aim the cursor in the direction you want the power to arc. Your powers only

[@Koostairious]

The camera angle bug really sucks when you're in combat. I was kind of relieved to see that other people got it and it wasn't just my save file

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

Garrus: "Pls, let me be a unhinged Renegade." Shep: "Don't do it." Garrus: "But...?" Shep: "I said no." Garrus: "What if I-" Femshep: "No." Garrus: "My queen."

[@jdup578]

Love those Geth Hunters they look awesome !

[@Senji75]

keep to memory the jonah scene where the mom recorded her last moments. trust me.

[@davida.j.berner776]

The "Rally the Crowd" option at the end of Tali's trial will indeed get Tali off the hook. The reason it's separate from the Renegade/Paragon options is because it doesn't appear if you didn't save Reegar on Haestrom and/or if you weren't sympathetic to Veetor on Freedom's Progress. Definitely worth choosing (at least once!) if you get the chance. And your instincts are right about the squad members' loyalty. Won't say too much for obvious reasons, but yes, it's about more than extra bonus powers and alternative outfits!

[@thesunisup_]

1:18:20 Funny of her to phrase it like that because he said no such thing

[@KingdomAce]

its funny because a moment after this you can see my face react because I was thinking this EXACT thing LOL but I didnt wanna kill the vibe 💀

[@thesunisup_]

@@KingdomAce bro was all business, he didn't even say “I’m sorry” let alone “I love you”

[@Daralyndk]

daaammmmm, I'm really sorry, Tali ...oh shiney! 😀

[@dayooperedtroll2208]

🚨Don't forget to talk to EDI and not just Joker.

[@mateuszprzybya4352]

Some players do Talis loyality missions when you have full team(next main mission have max 2 missions after so you can have full and full loyal team ) (i mean most unique dialoges are with missing teammate you really schould save and waytch that dialogues someday ) -then are some unique dialogues but most important and i really repeat most important is do what Tali wish are .

[@Raivo_K]

I would not recommend this for first time players. This is for future replays where the outcomes are known and the player wants to mix things up. Besides doing Tali's loyalty mission with the last teammate requires careful timing and planning to execute in order to get the best outcome for all involved.

[@mateuszprzybya4352]

@@Raivo_K i write nim optimal sequence i other comment but ofc he paly it yourself so we see what he do maybe he do it in your next play

[@brianwhite9339]

The Quarians are merciful to Tratiors!

[@MatthewDiaz-f4v]

On console the “are you making a pass on me?” Dialogue is an optional one and Tali’s response to it is so adorable. Shepard: Wait a minute. It sounds like you’re suggesting something, Tali. Tali: What could i possibly be suggesting? I mean a young woman gets rescued by a dashing commander who lets her join his crew and then goes off to save the galaxy? How could she possibly develop any kind of interest in him?

[@KingdomAce]

dude i HATEEEEE myself for not picking that 😭

[@mateuszprzybya4352]

I have hope that you will play ME3 soon -this game is something that dont have substitute now and probably never .

[@Ashes1032]

I'm sitting here wondering who said the Mattock is even better in Mass Effect 3. I thought it was pretty well-known that the ME2 DLC guns got a slight nerf in ME3, turning them from the best guns into pretty average. But Mass Effect 3 has such a huge variety of guns to work with that I've never felt like we lost much with the nerf.

[@Vantage01]

Tali is just too adorkable 🤗😍

[@Daralyndk]

I actually like Jack, she is trully a Tsundere

[@Vantage01]

@Daralyndk I like her too, she's my second favorite.

[@kurtslavain]

​​@@Daralyndk+1. Jack is my forever romance. Tali is my second best, though. IRL, I've always fallen for either really intelligent or alt/unorthodox girls. Usually both. I'm not really a fan of the traditional/submissive type.

[@Anonymos185]

I have no idea why the game pushes the player so hard towards it being bad for Garrus to take revenge on Sidonis. Dude betrayed and got everyone Garrus was close to killed, all because he was a coward. Why does he get to leave with a slap on the wrist, and nothing more? Not even a jail sentence? Sidonis deserves a bullet between the eyes. One of the few decisions I am unapologetically renegade on.

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

Because Garrus is acting off nothing but assumptions, and thinks the cure to trauma means traumatizing others.

[@Anonymos185]

@willfanofmanyii3751 What are you talking about? Sidonis WAS the traitor, nothing is assumed. And Garrus isn't traumatizing anyone, he's killing someone for getting all of his friends killed, to save his own skin.

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

@@Anonymos185 Ah yes, because Garrus declaring his friend must be a traitor because he vanished before the massacre isn't an assumption. Because a crowded plaza of civilians watching a man gets his brains blown out wouldn't traumatize anyone. The gangs captured Sidonis and tortured him for information, then used him to lure Garrus away from the team.

[@Pir-o]

The "do reaper IFF mission before Tali's mission" is basically a troll "what if" playthrough, the "I wonder what would happen if I do that, I wonder if this will break the game" kind of approach. And you 100% should NOT be doing that on your first playthrough. It's just something interesting u can do to get unique dialogue most people never hear in their own game (unless they seen it on some youtube videos). It's kinda like playing 99% of ME1 without Liara just to get some unique dialog about her waiting very long to be rescued.

[@coldriceproductions1414]

damn i let garrus kill the man in my playthrough, great to see sidonis got to live, i wonder what thatll do for the 3rd game (if it does anything) also careful for garrus's reach HAHAH edit: i always love tali's reactions especially when u talk to her like u did in 2:10:00

[@joshuajackson472]

If you haven't played the game before, isn't all dialog somewhat unique the first time through?

[@lukezuluaga9243]

I feel like all your ME1 mates should be automatically loyal, but you can still do there side mission for content, XP, and fun. But the loyalty bonuses should be there already Like that would make more sense, I know it’s not like that in game

[@fadeddragon123]

Tali best girl

[@KingdomAce]

after that convo at the end, YES.

[@Macintosh1001]

Dew it...😈

[@joshuajackson472]

The storytelling in mass effect really is the best, from the cinematic quality of the cutscenes to the amazing efforts of the voice talent. The only other game that comes close imo is red dead redemption 2. So spoiled that you're playing through my 2 favorite game series at the same time

[@mateuszprzybya4352]

So best sequence missions schould be :first all loyal missions exept Tali and new Teamate ,second next main mission ,third Talis loyality mission with new Teammate ,fourth new Teammate loyality mission .Only this sequence give you most uniqies dialogues in Talis missions -but if you prefer do it in other way this is your play so do it what you wanna sir i only give you advice and im confident that sequence is optimal .Remember after do loyality mission new upgarde Normandy is avaiable and dont remember do it all .

[@kurtslavain]

Spoiler alert and meme time.... . . . . . . If Shepard doesn't romance Tali: Garrus to Tali: "I'm gonna call your legs calibrations... because I'm gonna be in the middle of them". PS: he doesn't really say that in game, but it's an inside joke

[@Tyleya]

You got to do a renegade playthrough. Shepard is a comedian.

[@Tyleya]

I’m playing 3 right now. I would advise you to mod it to hell. I was able to add some hours to the game.